Speaker 1: Hey, what's up, everybody.
Speaker 2: I'm Jammelle Hill and welcome to Politics and iHeart podcast
Speaker 2: and Unbothered Network production.
Speaker 1: Time to get spolitical.
Speaker 2: Last week, Time magazine revealed its Athlete of the Year, and.
Speaker 1: The choice was Caitlyn Clark. Now, I thought the honor
Speaker 1: was well deserved.
Speaker 2: When you look at this year, few, if any, athletes
Speaker 2: have had the impact that she's had on women's basketball,
Speaker 2: really on any sport at both the college and the
Speaker 2: professional level. And march, Clark became the NCAA men's and
Speaker 2: women's all time scoring leader. A couple months later, her
Speaker 2: Iowa team met undefeated South Carolina in the National Championship
Speaker 2: and while South Carolina won the title, that game averaged
Speaker 2: eighteen point four million viewers, and for the first time
Speaker 2: in history, the women's national championship game had more viewers
Speaker 2: than the men. Game also averaged more viewers than any
Speaker 2: of the NBA Finals games between the Boston Celtics and.
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks and the WNBA.
Speaker 2: Clark won Rookie of the Year and her Indiana Fever
Speaker 2: team made the playoffs for the first time since twenty sixteen. Now,
Speaker 2: if I listed all the ratings records that Caitlin Clark
Speaker 2: broke in the WNBA. I'd be talking to you all
Speaker 2: for another hour, but I think you get what her impact.
Speaker 1: Was this season.
Speaker 2: Now, as part of This Time Magazine honor, writer Sean
Speaker 2: Gregory wrote a terrific piece about Clark, who hasn't done
Speaker 2: many one on one interviews this year. So this was
Speaker 2: the first time that we are hearing from her at length,
Speaker 2: or I should say the first time in some time
Speaker 2: we're hearing from her at lyngth and ball. Some of
Speaker 2: her supporters mad about the things she said.
Speaker 1: Ever since Angel Reese did.
Speaker 3: This, and Angel Reese knows a ring is coming.
Speaker 2: Race has been part of the conversation, whether we like
Speaker 2: it or not. At that moment in the National Championship
Speaker 2: game between LSU and Iowa, racial battle lines were drawn.
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark was certainly a popular player before that National Championship,
Speaker 2: for her popularity exploded among a certain group, and let's
Speaker 2: just say it was a group of folks that could
Speaker 2: not stand the site of a black woman talking trash
Speaker 2: in this manner to a heralded white player, even though
Speaker 2: that same white player had done the same gesture in
Speaker 2: a basketball game before.
Speaker 1: Now, as Clark's popularity continued to explode.
Speaker 2: Those of us with common sense and good observational skills
Speaker 2: could see the truth. While the majority of people root
Speaker 2: for Clark because she's a generational talent, there was another
Speaker 2: loud contingent in the room that saw Clark's success as
Speaker 2: an opportunity to let off some steam about how they
Speaker 2: really felt about black women. That loud contingent is now
Speaker 2: big mad because it turns out that Caitlyn Clark isn't
Speaker 2: nearly as hateful and unaware as they wanted her to be.
Speaker 2: In the Time magazine piece, Clark made made it clear
Speaker 2: that she found the racist, misogynistic attacks and homophobic narratives
Speaker 2: to be upsetting and gross.
Speaker 1: Those were her exact words. But here's the.
Speaker 2: Quote that really pissed off her so called fans. Caitlin
Speaker 2: Clark said, I want to say I've earned every single thing,
Speaker 2: but as a white person, there is privilege. A lot
Speaker 2: of those players in the league that have been really
Speaker 2: good have been black players. The league has kind of
Speaker 2: been built on them. The more we can appreciate that
Speaker 2: highlight that talk about that and then continue to have
Speaker 2: brands and companies invest in those players that have made
Speaker 2: this league incredible. I think it's very important. I have
Speaker 2: to continue to try to change that. The more we
Speaker 2: can elevate black women, that's going to be a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: Oh they was mad, heeded. How does fish grease that?
Speaker 2: Clark not only acknowledged her privilege, but she then committed
Speaker 2: a deeper internal sin. She had the nerve to publicly
Speaker 2: acknowledge and appreciate the contributions of other black women black women.
Speaker 2: A lot of her fake fans again had that hatred
Speaker 2: for from conservative media personality Megan Kelly, who tweeted, look
Speaker 2: at this, she's on the knee all but apologizing for
Speaker 2: being white and getting attention the self flagellation, the oh,
Speaker 2: please pay attention to the black players who are really
Speaker 2: the ones you want to celebrate. Condescending, fake, transparent sad well.
Speaker 2: I guess it could be worse.
Speaker 4: Kitlyn Clark could have said she supports black Santa's.
Speaker 1: Santa Claus should not be a white man anymore.
Speaker 2: Yet another person claiming it's racist to have a white Santa.
Speaker 4: You know, and by the way, for all your kids
Speaker 4: watching at home, Sanna.
Speaker 1: Just is white.
Speaker 2: I bet Megan Kelly ain't even got a black coffee
Speaker 2: cup in her house because that's how much she can't
Speaker 2: stand black people now. Megan Kelly, though she wasn't the
Speaker 2: only one who took a leap off the Caitlyn Clark
Speaker 2: bandwagon because of her comments in Time magazine. Former college
Speaker 2: swimmer and right wing darling Riley Gaines came jumping off
Speaker 2: her griftin top rope to create size Clark as well.
Speaker 2: Gains tweeted, no one was asking for Kaitlin Clark to
Speaker 2: position herself as.
Speaker 4: A right wing hero. All she needed to do was
Speaker 4: remain neutral. She's a phenim who inspires countless young girls
Speaker 4: to play and achieve, So I still have great admiration
Speaker 4: for her, but she missed the mark on this one.
Speaker 4: For those scoring at home.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two, Riley Gaines finished fifth and the
Speaker 2: two hundred meter freestyle final at the NCAA Women's Championship.
Speaker 2: She soon because the winner of the race was transgender
Speaker 2: swimmer Leah Thomas. But even if Leah Thomas were not
Speaker 2: in that race, the highest Gains would have finished was fourth.
Speaker 2: An old girl been riding that fourth place finish to
Speaker 2: conservative media stardom ever since. If I'm Leah Thomas, I'm
Speaker 2: asking her for a cut. At this point, I knew
Speaker 2: this moment would unfortunately come for Kaitlyn Clark, who was
Speaker 2: probably the most unintentionally controversial athlete in professional sports right now.
Speaker 2: The moment these fake fans of hers got any indication
Speaker 2: she didn't support the same clownish shit that they did,
Speaker 2: they were going to come for her. You saw that
Speaker 2: when she liked Taylor Swift's social media posts where she
Speaker 2: endorsed vice president Kamala Harris. What's hilarious is watching these
Speaker 2: people twist themselves into notts because in this time profile,
Speaker 2: Clark debunked a lot of the false narratives that they pushed. No,
Speaker 2: she didn't think she was targeted by WNBA players. In fact,
Speaker 2: if anything, Clark said, she realizes that most of the
Speaker 2: college competition she faced was substandard and it took her
Speaker 2: some time to adjust to the WNBA. Clark said, professional
Speaker 2: players and professional coaches, This is no disrespect to college
Speaker 2: women's basketball are a lot smarter. I love women's college basketball,
Speaker 2: but if you go back and watch the way people
Speaker 2: guarded me in college, it's almost like concerning. They didn't
Speaker 2: double me, they didn't trap me, they weren't physical, and
Speaker 2: it's hard, it's college. A lot of those women will
Speaker 2: never go on to play another basketball game in their life.
Speaker 2: They don't have the IQ of understanding how the game works.
Speaker 2: So I completely understand it, and it's no disrespect at all.
Speaker 2: They don't have the IQ. You have to simplify it
Speaker 2: for girls at that age, which was basically the same
Speaker 2: shit Diana Tarassi said, and y'all came to herd with pitchforks. Now,
Speaker 2: I personally never thought that Caitlyn Clark was required to
Speaker 2: speak about anything other than just basketball. She's just twenty
Speaker 2: two years old and still coming into her own personally
Speaker 2: and professionally. If she never mentioned race, privilege, or gender
Speaker 2: in this article, I certainly wouldn't have thought less of her.
Speaker 2: But the players in the w especially the black women,
Speaker 2: will appreciate that she used her position and her platform
Speaker 2: to speak up for them. And despite what her defecting
Speaker 2: fans have said, Katelyn Clark didn't do that because she
Speaker 2: felt any pressure or because she's been brainwashed by the
Speaker 2: WoT mob.
Speaker 1: This is a woman who comes off.
Speaker 2: As very sure of herself and is certain about what
Speaker 2: she stands for.
Speaker 5: There's always going to be some negativity, and I feel
Speaker 5: like you have had to answer more questions than anybody
Speaker 5: about the intersectionality of race and gender and sexuality in
Speaker 5: sport because of just who you are, and you represent
Speaker 5: the growth of this thing. And even today, earlier today
Speaker 5: Meg and Kelly, she was saying that you were apologizing
Speaker 5: for your white privilege and the fact that you wanted
Speaker 5: to uplift black female athletes and make sure that they
Speaker 5: were getting the shine kind of like your pioneers were
Speaker 5: getting the shine that they deserve.
Speaker 1: And I just want to know how you feel or
Speaker 1: how you.
Speaker 5: Respond to some of those criticisms when you have to
Speaker 5: deal with something that it's really not your problem, Like
Speaker 5: I feel like it's them looking in a mirror a
Speaker 5: little bit, but it still comes down on your shoulders.
Speaker 6: I feel like I always have had really good perspective
Speaker 6: on everything that's kind of happened in my life, whether
Speaker 6: that's been good, whether that's been bad. And then obviously
Speaker 6: coming to the WNBA, like I've said, I feel like
Speaker 6: I've earned every single thing that's happened to me over
Speaker 6: the course of my career. But also I grew up
Speaker 6: a fan of this league from a very young age,
Speaker 6: Like My favorite player was Maya More, Like I know
Speaker 6: what this league was about, and like I said, like,
Speaker 6: it's only been around twenty five plus years, so I
Speaker 6: know there's been so many amazing black women that have
Speaker 6: been in this league. And continuing to uplift them, I
Speaker 6: think is very important and that's something I'm very aware of.
Speaker 6: And like I said, like I try to just be
Speaker 6: real and authentic and share my truth. And I think
Speaker 6: that's very easy for me. Like I'm very comfortable in
Speaker 6: my own skin, and that's kind of ben how it
Speaker 6: is my entire life.
Speaker 2: Kate Le Clark is standing on who she is. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: her critics are standing on some bullshit. I'm Jamel Hill,
Speaker 2: and I approve this message. Coming up next on Spolitics,
Speaker 2: my guest for this episode is another woman whose career
Speaker 2: is built on standing on business. She's a two time
Speaker 2: Olympic gold medalist who has multiple world championships and five
Speaker 2: weight classes. She's the first woman in history to earn
Speaker 2: a seven figure person in a boxing match. Her story
Speaker 2: is so incredibly inspiring, and it's so inspiring that it's
Speaker 2: coming to us in movie form in theaters on Christmas Day.
Speaker 2: Coming up next on Spolitics, the quote the greatest woman
Speaker 2: of all time, Floressa Shields.
Speaker 1: Claris.
Speaker 2: I want to thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 2: You're making history. You're the first person to actually be
Speaker 2: in studio with me.
Speaker 1: In this podcast studio.
Speaker 2: So I just want to thank you for blessing it,
Speaker 2: for ordaining it. Of course, especially a super talented woman
Speaker 2: like yourself, it makes it even more makes it even
Speaker 2: more special. But I'm going to start by asking you
Speaker 2: a question that I ask every guest that appears on
Speaker 2: this podcast, and that is, name the athlete or the
Speaker 2: sport that made you the athlete, Name the athlete or
Speaker 2: the moment that made you love sports?
Speaker 7: Honest Lee, I have to say, like, my love for
Speaker 7: sports started with seeing Serena Williams play tennis.
Speaker 1: This is before I was boxing.
Speaker 7: You know, my grandma was a big uh Venus and
Speaker 7: Serena Williams fan, and.
Speaker 1: We watched Dwight.
Speaker 7: Howard growing up when he was a magic man and
Speaker 7: all that stuff or was it magic mean a miracle?
Speaker 1: I think it's magic man.
Speaker 7: And I have to say my grandma always was like,
Speaker 7: we watched Surrenda Williams player all the time.
Speaker 1: So before I even chose boxing, I knew about tennis.
Speaker 4: Did you ever think about playing tennis because you saw her?
Speaker 1: No? But I wanted to do sports though.
Speaker 7: I played basketball and football growing up and ran track,
Speaker 7: and then when I turned eleven, I started boxing. So
Speaker 7: before boxing, I had already kind of known I was
Speaker 7: an athlete. I ran track, I did karate, I played basketball,
Speaker 7: I played flag football in school. I played real football
Speaker 7: with the guys in the hood in the in the field.
Speaker 7: I've even strained. I even spranged my wrists one time
Speaker 7: because one of the guys tackled me.
Speaker 2: Oh, y'all was out there for real, Like, yeah, So
Speaker 2: I always have love for sports, but I think seeing
Speaker 2: Serrenda Williams, I was like, okay, I can do sports.
Speaker 1: Not like tennis, but I can do sports. Okay.
Speaker 2: Now that fire inside your biopic is out, What does
Speaker 2: it feel like to finally see this happen, that people
Speaker 2: are able, well they will be as of Christmas Day,
Speaker 2: that people are able to really learn about your story?
Speaker 1: You know, I have been in a few of the premieres,
Speaker 1: and to see.
Speaker 7: People reactions as we watch the movie together, and to
Speaker 7: know that the movie is about me, I'm always just
Speaker 7: shook and I'm so excited for the world to see.
Speaker 1: It on Christmas Day.
Speaker 7: I believe that it's going to change so many lives,
Speaker 7: going to change people's perspective of women's sports, women's boxing,
Speaker 7: of me, and they'll see that it's hard being a
Speaker 7: woman athlete. But the best of us who stay and
Speaker 7: continue to push and continue to not quit, continue to
Speaker 7: just fight the best and can control our brands, that
Speaker 7: this is what all it takes to get here. And
Speaker 7: I'm just ready to inspire a whole new generation of people.
Speaker 1: The movie is very inspiring.
Speaker 2: I got a chance to see it when it premiered
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, and I was really I mean, I
Speaker 2: knew your story, but it's it's it's interesting when you
Speaker 2: see it all put together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like much more powerful.
Speaker 2: And I think you had told me previously that, oh
Speaker 2: it'll make you laugh, it'll make you tear up. It
Speaker 2: was a couple of times I definitely got emotional. I
Speaker 2: didn't let that Denzel glow ear dry. But it was
Speaker 2: a few times.
Speaker 1: That I got emotional.
Speaker 2: But I saw it as a ninety six percent score
Speaker 2: already on Rotten Tomato. So you know, how do you
Speaker 2: think this film or were you at all anxious about
Speaker 2: how this film might be received.
Speaker 1: No, I wasn't anxious about it.
Speaker 7: One thing I've known the whole time is that my
Speaker 7: story is very resilient, you know, in that it's a
Speaker 7: story that needs to be told that the sports world needs.
Speaker 7: It's filled with so many different dynamics, and I just
Speaker 7: feel like I'm a different type of woman, right And
Speaker 7: I always been that way. And they're like, why is
Speaker 7: she like that? You know, where did this come from?
Speaker 7: Is she cocky or is she confident? Is she arrogant?
Speaker 1: You know? Is she angry or is she just passionate?
Speaker 7: And I hope that when they watch the movie they
Speaker 7: see that I'm very passionate about boxing. I am not
Speaker 7: an angry black woman who boxed because I was sexually
Speaker 7: abused and I want to be the men.
Speaker 1: Now, that's not why a box. And it's kind of immatuity.
Speaker 7: People have that as the story about me for a
Speaker 7: very long time, and it's still like, what, I'm breaking
Speaker 7: all these records? You think, you guys think I'm breaking
Speaker 7: all these records just because I hate men. It don't
Speaker 7: have nothing to do with that. It's because I want
Speaker 7: to be great at something and I want to be
Speaker 7: remembered after I die. I always knew that my story
Speaker 7: is going to change so many lives, and I feel
Speaker 7: like God chose me to be the one to do it.
Speaker 7: God told me I'll want to go melt the first time.
Speaker 7: He told me I want to go melt a second time.
Speaker 7: And even though I had no idea what the professional
Speaker 7: ranks for the women held, you let me know you're
Speaker 7: going to be the one to change women's boxing.
Speaker 1: You have to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a long time since I said this
Speaker 2: about a movie, but after at the end of Yours,
Speaker 2: I was thinking I could have had another thirty minutes
Speaker 2: of that or another like it could have been like
Speaker 2: longer in my fire inside. You're right, because it does
Speaker 2: only it takes you up to your professional, you know, career.
Speaker 2: And of course in the end notes, you know, we
Speaker 2: know what happened. Obviously, they update people about where you
Speaker 2: are and they show actual footage of you. Were you
Speaker 2: concerned at all about how people close to you.
Speaker 1: Might see their portrayals? Absolutely?
Speaker 7: You know, And I'm happy that Ryan caught me and
Speaker 7: was like, hey, you know, what was the relationship like
Speaker 7: with your mom?
Speaker 1: You know, at this age or at this stage of
Speaker 1: your life, you know, and.
Speaker 7: Everyone is okay, well how they were portrayed because everything
Speaker 7: was the truth.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you that, like, how, yeah, what
Speaker 2: percentage of this would you say? I mean, of course
Speaker 2: it's Hollywood, they're gonna you know, it's gonna be some
Speaker 2: drama that they were, but like, you know, what percentage
Speaker 2: of this would you say it was true?
Speaker 1: I would say ninety five percent of it with I.
Speaker 2: Mean, that's pretty good for her for yeah, for Hollywood,
Speaker 2: yeah it is, it is.
Speaker 1: But I let them know everything in the movie.
Speaker 7: I'm like, I want them to see the real stuff,
Speaker 7: to see like this is what I went through. This
Speaker 7: is how it was for me growing up, Like this
Speaker 7: is how it was what I went through. I want
Speaker 7: them to see it raw in the cut, just like
Speaker 7: t Rex was.
Speaker 2: What are the I mean pretty much the crux of
Speaker 2: the movie is your relationship with Jason Crutchfield, who was
Speaker 2: the person who sort of got you into the sport.
Speaker 2: It was your trainer, mentor all those things. What's your
Speaker 2: relationship like with Jason?
Speaker 1: Now we don't.
Speaker 7: Work together as far as in boxing, but every time
Speaker 7: I see him, it's still just a woman brace. He
Speaker 7: always tell me he happy for me, he proud me,
Speaker 7: and we're happy that we got this movie about our
Speaker 7: lives together. We were connected for life, and you know,
Speaker 7: we want our first gold medal together, we want our
Speaker 7: first world title together, and the professionals. And if Jason
Speaker 7: everyone to try to coach me again, I'll let him,
Speaker 7: would you, I would?
Speaker 1: Look?
Speaker 7: The only thing is to just I think I think
Speaker 7: the disconnect was the personal life of it. You know,
Speaker 7: even though he was like my dad, he didn't know
Speaker 7: how to separate the dad and the coach, you know,
Speaker 7: and he kind of mixed it all up in one,
Speaker 7: and he made the rules being for both, like, Okay,
Speaker 7: Dad say you can't date, in Coach say you can't date.
Speaker 7: So if you don't listen to Dad, you don't listen
Speaker 7: to coach. And then if coach get mad, he puts
Speaker 7: you out the gym. And you know, it's just all
Speaker 7: this stuff that was going on, and I just remember,
Speaker 7: like dang, you know, not that I should have listened,
Speaker 7: but it was just like I was grown at the time,
Speaker 7: you know, and I had already accomplished getting a gold medals,
Speaker 7: so having a boyfriend wasn't a big deal to me.
Speaker 7: But if I knew what I know now, I would
Speaker 7: definitely go back in time, and I just I would
Speaker 7: have never, ever, ever, ever had a boyfriend.
Speaker 4: It sounds like you're saying Jason might have been right.
Speaker 7: It might have been right, but I did spend a
Speaker 7: great four or five years with that guy, and we're
Speaker 7: still friends now.
Speaker 1: But I just think I don't know.
Speaker 7: If I had a daughter, I will I will tell her,
Speaker 7: you know, wait till you twenty five.
Speaker 4: She will kind of do what you did, which is
Speaker 4: not a right.
Speaker 2: You know, that's just how that's that's how it goes.
Speaker 2: Was there anybody who didn't like how they were portrayed?
Speaker 1: My dad?
Speaker 7: My dad didn't like how he was portrayed, and my
Speaker 7: little brother is not even showcased much in the movie.
Speaker 1: But he was like, I think my Charac should put
Speaker 1: more effort into it. And I'm like, dude, you showed
Speaker 1: three times three times. Shut up.
Speaker 7: And actually, the guy that played my little brother, I think,
Speaker 7: look a lot like my little brother and talk like
Speaker 7: him and everything. And I was like, that a great
Speaker 7: job casting this dude. But yeah, I don't know why
Speaker 7: he was mad about that. I was like, Peter, you
Speaker 7: weren't even in the movie, bro like just stop and
Speaker 7: then my dad is like, oh, me and Jason Because
Speaker 7: my dad and Jason never really had any friction. They
Speaker 7: may have had conversations and stuff like that, but never
Speaker 7: any friction. But I feel like, you know, Hollywood had
Speaker 7: to kind of spend it a little bit and so
Speaker 7: the conversation that they had, they just probably made it
Speaker 7: to where it looked like that. But my dad did
Speaker 7: pull up to wherever he's at loud music all the time.
Speaker 7: My dad nickname is Bobo, but he is like hardbody.
Speaker 7: He's a hardbody and he's old school. And my dad
Speaker 7: is one of my biggest protectors, you know. But he
Speaker 7: didn't like that in the movie and show him and
Speaker 7: Jason beef and he like it.
Speaker 1: I never bet with Jason. Never.
Speaker 2: Me and Jason always been cool and they have what
Speaker 2: do you how do you think that people in Flint
Speaker 2: will we'll look at this because I you know, Flint
Speaker 2: is sort of like a character and they showed the
Speaker 2: city some of the things is gone through because you know,
Speaker 2: it wasn't lost on me, especially when they showed picture
Speaker 2: of the water plants. So and we know about everything
Speaker 2: that's happened there with that. But how do you think
Speaker 2: people in Flint will look at this?
Speaker 7: I was at the Flynn premiere over four hundred people
Speaker 7: as they watched the movie in two different and two
Speaker 7: different venues, and I can tell you Flint was so excited.
Speaker 7: They're so happy about this. They're so happy about this.
Speaker 7: It showed the streets, you know, Ryan Destiny running on
Speaker 7: the streets Baltimore, North Saginaw, her being at Northwestern High School.
Speaker 1: It shows all this stuff, and.
Speaker 7: People from Flint are like, oh my god, they probably
Speaker 7: still live on that street, or they right right down
Speaker 7: that street. They seen me running down that street. Now
Speaker 7: to see Ryan Yam, it gets everybody in the city hope,
Speaker 7: like wow, if she went through all that and still
Speaker 7: made it the then what's my.
Speaker 1: Ryan?
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, just in a little that I've
Speaker 2: been around you, like she really had your mannerisms, like down,
Speaker 2: how much time did you all spend together?
Speaker 1: I think Ryan is great at what she do because.
Speaker 7: We FaceTime two or three times, we always text always,
Speaker 7: you know, kept in touch. But I never was on set,
Speaker 7: not one time. I was never on set. So Ryan
Speaker 7: did all of that. You have to give her kudos
Speaker 7: for that. Even when I seen it. I said, this
Speaker 7: is but she's an actress and this is her breakout role.
Speaker 7: And I mean even her boxing was so phenomenal to
Speaker 7: me now. But I also told her, I said, girl,
Speaker 7: don't you mess up on that part. And I even
Speaker 7: told I told Rachel, Hey, if you guys need me
Speaker 7: to come in be the stunt man, let me know.
Speaker 1: But this is boxing. We're gonna get it right. This
Speaker 1: is not rocky, this this is real and the greatest
Speaker 1: one of all time. You got to get these boxing right.
Speaker 7: I don't know about the acting part, y'all can figure
Speaker 7: that part out, but the boxing part, y'all need me
Speaker 7: let me know. And they never had to need me
Speaker 7: because Rob tell you a great job training rind this.
Speaker 2: You know, once people who obviously don't understand the Hollywood process,
Speaker 2: but like once you give them your life, essentially you're
Speaker 2: kind of out of the process a little bit. Was
Speaker 2: it hard for you to kind of turn over creative
Speaker 2: control and give someone license to near license to shape
Speaker 2: their shape their life in the way that they saw it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, no.
Speaker 7: No, no, no, I am very you were very involved,
Speaker 7: very strict about how I'm portrayed, especially to the world
Speaker 7: and how that's why I took over my own brand
Speaker 7: and when people start seeing who I was, because the
Speaker 7: people I hadn't tricked, my brand had me as some
Speaker 7: beasts and even my fans were scared of me, and
Speaker 7: it was like I didn't like that. So with the
Speaker 7: movie coming out, me and Barry sat and talked. Me
Speaker 7: and Barry Jenkins sat and talked who wrote who wrote
Speaker 7: the movie? Me and him talked for four or five hours.
Speaker 7: When I met him, I asked him what was his
Speaker 7: perception of what my story was and he told me
Speaker 7: and I said, well, okay, I got you, and I said,
Speaker 7: it's a few things that you missed out.
Speaker 1: I said, this is my life.
Speaker 7: And then I said, let's we got to put our
Speaker 7: minds together to make this right.
Speaker 1: And then he was like, well, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about this?
Speaker 7: How do you feel about He asked his questions and
Speaker 7: I answered everything truthfully and then he was like, do
Speaker 7: you want to include that?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? I want the truth in the movie.
Speaker 7: And before the script even was able they were able
Speaker 7: to start shooting, he sent me the script and said
Speaker 7: I'm waiting on you to read it, and when you
Speaker 7: get back to me and let me know what you think,
Speaker 7: then then we'll start. So he sent me the script
Speaker 7: a few things. I was one or two things. I
Speaker 7: was like, I take it out.
Speaker 1: And he respectful of it. He took and he took
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 7: And from there, when they started doing the casting, like
Speaker 7: Rachel will reach out to me all the time, Hey,
Speaker 7: we're doing the casting.
Speaker 1: Thousands of girls showed up.
Speaker 7: I even told a girl name who's an actress night
Speaker 7: a nice feast of Williams.
Speaker 1: I said.
Speaker 7: I was like, go because I thought she could play
Speaker 7: me right. And when she said let me know that
Speaker 7: Ryan Destiny got the part, I said, okay, cool. Met
Speaker 7: Ryan Destiny over the phone, like we talked and she
Speaker 7: let me know. I'm like, I'm like, I'm training very hard,
Speaker 7: but I was. I wasn't involved as much as I
Speaker 7: needed to be involved, you know. And even before they
Speaker 7: started showing up the premieres and everything, I seen the
Speaker 7: movie first.
Speaker 1: It was just me, I believe my publicist.
Speaker 7: It was here in LA I seen it, and I
Speaker 7: am one hundred percent for sure, even though that the
Speaker 7: contract was signed, if I did not like the movie,
Speaker 7: if I didn't like I was portrayed, I'm one hundred
Speaker 7: percent sure that everyone would have went back and did
Speaker 7: things better, differently, fixed whatever. I am one hundred percent
Speaker 7: sure of that. So I think working with them was
Speaker 7: very simple and easy. And they also knew that if
Speaker 7: I didn't like it, I'll be outspoken about it, you know,
Speaker 7: but not in a bad way, but just you would
Speaker 7: have told them, yeah, yeah, like this.
Speaker 1: Ain't it which I do this world.
Speaker 7: But I literally love how the truth is in there
Speaker 7: and how I was portrayed, because that's the truth.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of success just in the fact of
Speaker 2: getting a movie made. But do you have in your mind,
Speaker 2: like what success looks like in terms of how this
Speaker 2: is received, how many people see it, how much money
Speaker 2: it makes. It's like, what part of that? How will
Speaker 2: you judge and determine that about whether or not this
Speaker 2: movie you consider it to be a success.
Speaker 7: It's already a success, you know, just the fact that
Speaker 7: I have a movie about my life at the age
Speaker 7: of twenty nine and I gotta fighting too much. I'm
Speaker 7: still ranked number one woman fighter in the world right now,
Speaker 7: So that's already a win in itself.
Speaker 1: It's the win from Ryan Destiny.
Speaker 7: She's getting so many awards, so many nominations.
Speaker 1: I believe that the world is going to take to
Speaker 1: this movie. Now.
Speaker 7: Of course you want to see the box office numbers
Speaker 7: and you want to see all this stuff, of course,
Speaker 7: but I'm not gonna let that be toured. How great
Speaker 7: this is for me. I mean, what other boxs have
Speaker 7: a biopic about their life? I tell you, maham Ali, right,
Speaker 7: can you think of another one off the top of
Speaker 7: my head?
Speaker 2: George Foreman, George Foreman, you're right, yeah, I did see
Speaker 2: that movie. Yeah, And I'm trying to think who else? Well,
Speaker 2: I mean not a feature film. I mean what they
Speaker 2: did a series on Mike Tyson, right, I think that's
Speaker 2: probably what I can think of now.
Speaker 1: But obviously you're the first.
Speaker 4: Woman at the You're the first like this is big.
Speaker 1: This is big to me, and it is well deserved.
Speaker 7: And to be a believer in Christ and have your
Speaker 7: movie come out on Christmas Day, I get to share
Speaker 7: my day with the most powerful man in person in
Speaker 7: the world.
Speaker 1: That it was going to be Christmas or it just no.
Speaker 1: They had told me August. The day changed so many times.
Speaker 7: First it was August, which I was happy about because
Speaker 7: I was fighting in July. And then they came back
Speaker 7: and said, oh, it's December, and I'm like, what are
Speaker 7: you guys doing? And then they're like, oh, it's Christmas Day?
Speaker 7: And I was like in my mind, and actually I
Speaker 7: text Rachel I said.
Speaker 1: Who the hell go to the movies on Christmas Day?
Speaker 7: And she wrote back and said, correct, everybody, A lot
Speaker 7: of people. But this is how how much I'm out
Speaker 7: the loop, Like this show how much I just train
Speaker 7: and work out and you know, travel.
Speaker 1: I'm not thinking of those type of things. But I
Speaker 1: believe the color purple came out Christmas Day. Now that
Speaker 1: everything is like dawning on me, I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: really big.
Speaker 2: Your fight February second, Danielle Perkins, it hasn't been a challenge.
Speaker 2: You're promoting this movie, you have so much going on.
Speaker 2: Has it been a challenge in terms of preparing.
Speaker 1: For that, Well, it's just got to announce.
Speaker 7: So I've been in the gym the past two months
Speaker 7: already trained and working out, but it has It is
Speaker 7: a challenge when you're traveling back and forth and you're
Speaker 7: going all these different places and then you land where
Speaker 7: you're where you can train, but your body is like
Speaker 7: you having jet leg and dehydrated because you have drinking
Speaker 7: of water, all this stuff, so it it holds its challenges,
Speaker 7: but I'm happy that you know, this is something of
Speaker 7: the last bit we gotta do, and I don't let
Speaker 7: them know, like, look, your girl needs eight weeks to train,
Speaker 7: because who wants to have a movie come out of
Speaker 7: our life and then lose after kind of embarrassing that
Speaker 7: probably wouldn't be It's not even just lose, it's more
Speaker 7: just like I have I have, I'm gonna have millions
Speaker 7: of more new followers and fans.
Speaker 1: I gotta over I gotta overwin.
Speaker 7: Now it's like, yeah, you can win, but you gotta
Speaker 7: like really good, you know, especially with all the hate
Speaker 7: right now, I got to show these folks.
Speaker 2: So what uh, you know, looking at the evolution of
Speaker 2: the competition that you've had to face about your career
Speaker 2: as a professional, just talking about that part of it,
Speaker 2: how have you seen the competition evolved? Do you feel
Speaker 2: like women's boxing is in a stronger place because of you?
Speaker 7: Absolutely, women's boxing is a very stronger place because I
Speaker 7: think that you know, me speaking about equality, me being
Speaker 7: on these brands, me being main event on Showtime, ESPN, HBO,
Speaker 7: The Zone, me having talked with these execs, is changing
Speaker 7: women's boxing.
Speaker 1: I have real talks with them.
Speaker 7: I'm not a person who's going to come in the
Speaker 7: room and scream and yell and tell you to do
Speaker 7: what I say. I come with the facts. Hey, you guys,
Speaker 7: we got the next fight coming up. Last fight, you
Speaker 7: guys gave me trouble about how many viewerships we got,
Speaker 7: even though I got more viewership than everybody else.
Speaker 1: You guys said I should have got more viewership.
Speaker 7: Well, I believe I could have got more viewership if
Speaker 7: you guys promoted my fight.
Speaker 1: Twelve weeks instead of four weeks.
Speaker 7: You guys promote the men fight twelve weeks And then
Speaker 7: they asked me, how do you know that?
Speaker 1: Well have proof, I'll screenshot it.
Speaker 7: You guys started promoting Adrian brownin fight this date in
Speaker 7: his fight date was that date. You started promoting my
Speaker 7: fight this date, and my fight was four weeks later.
Speaker 7: So you can't say I'm supposed to get more viewership
Speaker 7: when I don't get the same amount of promotion.
Speaker 1: But that's a conversation you got have for them. It's
Speaker 1: not that they're.
Speaker 7: Sexist, it's just they're doing what they're used to doing.
Speaker 7: Women don't women just want the money. We want to
Speaker 7: be paid equal.
Speaker 1: That's it. Pay us equal, pay us equal.
Speaker 7: And it was just like they're not realizing they're not
Speaker 7: paying us equal because of this, or they got all
Speaker 7: these different reasons why, but you just let them know.
Speaker 1: You guys are you guys are making this reason. You
Speaker 1: guys are doing this.
Speaker 7: So you have to fix your part and do the
Speaker 7: same that you do for us for them, and then
Speaker 7: we can talk about the numbers. Now, if you promote
Speaker 7: my fight twelve weeks like you do the men, and
Speaker 7: then I still get half the numbers that they get,
Speaker 7: then we know, all right, it's not that we got
Speaker 7: to fix something else.
Speaker 1: But that's not it.
Speaker 7: Because I've getten more numbers than the men, and we
Speaker 7: promote my fight six weeks, eight weeks, and I get
Speaker 7: I get a lot of viewership.
Speaker 2: I asked you about the competition just because I know,
Speaker 2: you know, looking at boxing history, is that every great
Speaker 2: boxer needed a foe, you know.
Speaker 1: Almost Yeah, I've had a few of them, that you've
Speaker 1: had a few.
Speaker 2: But I mean, let's be honest, is that like you
Speaker 2: have destroyed a lot of your your competition, all of them,
Speaker 2: which speaks to your individual greatness.
Speaker 1: Have you felt like you know that.
Speaker 2: You need a a George Foreman or you know, a
Speaker 2: Joe Fraser, Like have you felt like, hey, I would
Speaker 2: you have liked to experience having like a real like
Speaker 2: a rival rival like some of these other boxing legends.
Speaker 7: I've had rivals, you know, Hannah Gabriel's being one. The
Speaker 7: girl knocked me down in the first round. I remember that, right, crazy,
Speaker 7: even though I won that fight, you natally, I mean,
Speaker 7: Savetta Marsha will Be and the amateurs.
Speaker 1: Me and her had a rough, ruggy fight. I won unanimously,
Speaker 1: but it was rough and rugged. She was tough.
Speaker 7: Christina Herrin being my first girl I ever really had
Speaker 7: a grudge match with and who I thought we would
Speaker 7: have plenty more time, but hey, I destroyed her so
Speaker 7: bad at the first fight. She didn't want to she
Speaker 7: didn't want to rematch me. None of these girls want
Speaker 7: to rematch me after I beat them. So those were
Speaker 7: my George Foreman fights and it so yeah, like I mean,
Speaker 7: it's to be as skilled and as great as I am.
Speaker 7: It's like a blessing and a curse at the same time.
Speaker 7: But I take it for more of a blessing because listen,
Speaker 7: if a girl can get in the ring with me
Speaker 7: and she can't stand total toe with me ten rounds straight,
Speaker 7: go to war with me, have good defense, offense, not
Speaker 7: back down, and I would give her props. I'll give
Speaker 7: her props, but I'm never gonna make a fight like
Speaker 7: that on purpose. She got to come in there with
Speaker 7: the smoke, and if she ain't got the smoke, it's
Speaker 7: not my job to go on there and take easy
Speaker 7: on her.
Speaker 1: If it's too hot in the kitchen, get out. I'm sure.
Speaker 2: Obviously, like a lot of people, you watch the Jake
Speaker 2: Paul Mike Tyson fight, and you know, as it stands now,
Speaker 2: a lot of people have credited Amanda's soroano and Katie
Speaker 2: Taylor is having the most watched women's sporting event of
Speaker 2: all time because it's seventy.
Speaker 1: Four million viewers.
Speaker 2: You seem to you seem to have to take an
Speaker 2: issue with that characterization that they're the most watched.
Speaker 1: Is that the truth or a life?
Speaker 4: That's why I asked, like, well, I was going to
Speaker 4: ask you.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna ask you. Was it a sporting women's event?
Speaker 7: It was not, so they were on a larger star.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 7: As you know, all right, so so so, so just
Speaker 7: just bear with me. Beginning of your sentence said it
Speaker 7: was the most watched women's sporting event with seventy four
Speaker 7: mini right right, And then I asked you was it
Speaker 7: a sporting women's event?
Speaker 1: You said no, it was not, So how does that
Speaker 1: go hand to hand? It don't.
Speaker 7: And that's not a knock to them. It's not a knock.
Speaker 7: It's a win for women's boxing. But when I was
Speaker 7: the head of the bill, I was the head. I
Speaker 7: got four million views two k two million in the UK,
Speaker 7: two million in the US abroad four million people over
Speaker 7: four million people watch the fight. We're the head of
Speaker 7: the bill. That's what you were promoting with. That's what
Speaker 7: you're going with. That's not the same here now. And
Speaker 7: did fifty many people tune in to gather around and
Speaker 7: make sure that they were in their seats and ready
Speaker 7: to watch when Mike Tyson came out? Because who doesn't
Speaker 7: want to see Mike Tyson fight? Absolutely, But that doesn't
Speaker 7: mean that the girls are not worth the views. I'm
Speaker 7: not saying that. I'm saying had they been the top
Speaker 7: of the bill without Jake Parler, Mike, without Jake Paula
Speaker 7: Mike typing where they have got that viewership and there
Speaker 7: in their first fight they got one million point five
Speaker 7: And that's the issue I had with old Cameron. He
Speaker 7: says he's reading off QR cars and I don't know
Speaker 7: much about boxing women's boxing, but you get on a QO,
Speaker 7: you're reading a car. Oh a man of Sano and
Speaker 7: K Taylor has the most watched women's boxing event in
Speaker 7: history with one point five million, And it's an article
Speaker 7: that shows you that I had two million viewers who
Speaker 7: watched the fight alone in just the UK. So that's
Speaker 7: my thing. It's not to take a knock from them.
Speaker 7: It just they do things trying to make it seem
Speaker 7: like what I did. They they're trying to make make
Speaker 7: records that you guys are not breaking a record if
Speaker 7: you're not doing it the same way, it's not the
Speaker 7: same thing. They do have the most women's watched boxing
Speaker 7: mat in history as the co main event. I have
Speaker 7: the most watched women's boxing match as a standalone women's box.
Speaker 2: But you said you considered this to be even though
Speaker 2: they were a part of a larger event or you know,
Speaker 2: within one, you consider it to be a win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a win. I feel like the girl stole
Speaker 1: the show. I agree.
Speaker 7: I mean with the with the head, but the cut,
Speaker 7: the punches, the counterpunching, Amanda with those strong hands.
Speaker 2: Listen, I watched the fight. I was glued into it.
Speaker 2: Did you think the outcome was right? Did you think
Speaker 2: that was the right decision?
Speaker 7: I did, Okay, I thought Katie edged it with her
Speaker 7: skill on her counterpunching when I watched it they're in person.
Speaker 7: But then when I went home and watched it, I said,
Speaker 7: this could have been a draw. But those girls are
Speaker 7: like kryptonite to each other, like their styles just don't mix,
Speaker 7: Like they just are always gonna give each other trouble.
Speaker 2: Indeed in a way, so they haven't. Really, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be another decision. You thought that was a win for
Speaker 2: women's boxing.
Speaker 1: Did you you think? Yeah?
Speaker 2: The Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight was a win for
Speaker 2: boxing for men.
Speaker 7: Asking the question, you know, Listen, I'm glad Mike Tyson
Speaker 7: did whatever he wanted to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad he went in there. I'm glad he fought.
Speaker 7: I'm glad I got to see him walk to the
Speaker 7: ring with my own eyes and see him inside the ring.
Speaker 7: And boxing was to dream of mind, you know, to
Speaker 7: just see that. Of course I would love to see
Speaker 7: him knock Jake Paul out, absolutely, but I.
Speaker 4: Know you two have history. Yes, yeah, but it's just like, what.
Speaker 7: Did it do for boxing? And didn't do anything? But
Speaker 7: I'm happy for Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. I just
Speaker 7: I just didn't it didn't do anything for boxing. I mean,
Speaker 7: you want to say, all we got viewership, but it's Netflix.
Speaker 7: Who doesn't have Netflix. It's eight ninety nine a month.
Speaker 7: Everybody watched Netflix and it didn't charge nobody to watch it, So.
Speaker 1: Ingrass to them. Man, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a larger question to be asked there
Speaker 2: about the sport. But before I ask you that one,
Speaker 2: we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right
Speaker 2: back with more from the quote the greatest woman of
Speaker 2: all time back in a moment. A lot of I
Speaker 2: asked you that about the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight
Speaker 2: because there's mixed opinions along boxing fans. Some people think
Speaker 2: that it's great for the sport they look at the viewership,
Speaker 2: but a lot of boxing purists, they are a little
Speaker 2: disheartened that this is the kind of fight that has
Speaker 2: now become considered a premier fight. So do you still
Speaker 2: think that boxing men's boxing? Would you consider it in
Speaker 2: a healthy place if this is the kind of fight
Speaker 2: that becomes considered a marquee event.
Speaker 7: Jake Paul is great at marketing, great at building his brand,
Speaker 7: and that's something that you know, I give him credit
Speaker 7: for me saying that he came from YouTube and just
Speaker 7: came to boxing and started making millions off the bat
Speaker 7: and I gotta work this hard and I got real
Speaker 7: accomplishments that let me know that I need to build
Speaker 7: my brand. So I do, you know, give credit to
Speaker 7: Jake Paul for that. Build my brand on YouTube, build
Speaker 7: my brand on Instagram, beild my brand on Facebook, everywhere.
Speaker 1: Just build my.
Speaker 7: Brand because your brand will last you longer once you're
Speaker 7: done with the sport anyway, And if you don't have
Speaker 7: a brand, it's like everything you did kind of disappears anyway,
Speaker 7: because there's always a new up and coming fighter or
Speaker 7: up and coming champion, you know, and people. So I
Speaker 7: think that's where he's winning at, you know, and I
Speaker 7: think everybody keep looking at because boxing is such a
Speaker 7: real sport. It's a real fight in there, and they're
Speaker 7: trying to say that his fights aren't real. I mean,
Speaker 7: Jake Paul has a loss on his record. He lost
Speaker 7: Tommy Fiery, So he had a real boxing match. That's
Speaker 7: the real, the real one I thought that he had
Speaker 7: and he lost. But you don't hear him talking about that.
Speaker 7: They just try to, Oh, we thought he won't but
Speaker 7: but he lost and he's trying to become a better boxer.
Speaker 1: But boxing is such a real sport.
Speaker 7: I think that these guys are overlooking that they're overlooking
Speaker 7: that you have to build your brand outside the ring.
Speaker 7: It's not just about fighting anymore. We're not in that.
Speaker 7: We're not in that place an era of where social
Speaker 7: media don't matter like we are. I grew up in
Speaker 7: a social media era where it's like you use this
Speaker 7: up to your benefit. People still kind of oh, we
Speaker 7: don't really play the internet games, we don't do social media.
Speaker 7: Oh you know, having viewership and people watching your social
Speaker 7: media followers don't mean nothing. And I'm sorry to tell you,
Speaker 7: but it does mean something. How you looked at on
Speaker 7: social media, who follows you, how many followers you got,
Speaker 7: it matters, sadly, no matter how great you are mad,
Speaker 7: So that's what is winning for him.
Speaker 1: Now, men's boxing, where is it at?
Speaker 7: They need to understand that you guys are getting paid millions,
Speaker 7: but people don't know you.
Speaker 1: Guys name that.
Speaker 7: They don't know what you do, what you stand for,
Speaker 7: what your life is about, who you are.
Speaker 1: They don't know.
Speaker 7: So once you're done boxing and all those ten million,
Speaker 7: five million, two million payday stop coming in and even
Speaker 7: spend all your money. That's why you don't see a
Speaker 7: lot of boxes with endorsements and sponsorships because they don't
Speaker 7: build the brands. I'm going to be one of the
Speaker 7: first boxes that you see that have deals and stuff
Speaker 7: like Sarrenda Williams go, It's going to happen because I'm
Speaker 7: putting in the work and I'm building my brain.
Speaker 1: Is that in a way.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say, because you mentioned like you know, hey,
Speaker 2: this is just kind of what it is, but you're it.
Speaker 2: Does it sometimes frustrate you that your accomplishments in some
Speaker 2: circles or in some regards when we talk about marketing
Speaker 2: and getting the deals and all that isn't enough. You know,
Speaker 2: like you talked about how you have to market yourself,
Speaker 2: promote yourself, build your brand, Like that sounds like a
Speaker 2: lot of work, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It absolutely is.
Speaker 7: And I have a great team who I work with now,
Speaker 7: you know, PR team, styling team, a hair makeup. I
Speaker 7: have a great team that I work with now. But
Speaker 7: I just said that to say, yeah, it's frustrating, but
Speaker 7: it's also it's the part.
Speaker 1: It's a part of it. You know. Serena Williams.
Speaker 7: When I look at her, you know, she played with
Speaker 7: the beads for a long time, she represented for the culture.
Speaker 7: But then you know, people start saying like, oh, she's
Speaker 7: she's strong, she's built like a man, and you never
Speaker 7: really seen her respond. You always just seen her kind
Speaker 7: of put her time into her work. And when she
Speaker 7: put her time into her work, that's when you've see
Speaker 7: that all these endorsements and sponsors and everything like she
Speaker 7: didn't pay that stuff no mind. I think the more
Speaker 7: you focus on yourself and your career and what you
Speaker 7: want to do and you keep the outside of the
Speaker 7: noise out, that's when you start to really elevate.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm doing right now, is it?
Speaker 4: You know, as you have won more and more and
Speaker 4: more and.
Speaker 1: Sitting at the top of the sport.
Speaker 2: How do you handle that pressure because people are looking
Speaker 2: for you to lose. You know, you have some challenger
Speaker 2: you don't even know right now is at home thinking
Speaker 2: about like trying to knock you out.
Speaker 1: So how do you.
Speaker 4: Handle dealing with like you're carrying a sport?
Speaker 7: I train that's it when you self made, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, and you get to where you got
Speaker 7: to because of you being you, you doing you how
Speaker 7: you do you, and you know how you got to
Speaker 7: where you are, no handouts, nobody giving you nothing. It's
Speaker 7: like I know how stat the top, I know what
Speaker 7: to do, I know what matters. So it's like people,
Speaker 7: of course, everybody always want the winners to lose. People
Speaker 7: love controversy like they love drama. They love a comeback story.
Speaker 1: But for me, it's like I just believe in winning.
Speaker 1: And how do you win? You train, you have discipline,
Speaker 1: you focus, and you just you just do it. So
Speaker 1: I don't really hate come with the game.
Speaker 7: You know, And I've always known as a young girl,
Speaker 7: and my coaches tell me all the time women have
Speaker 7: to work ten times harder than me. He always told
Speaker 7: me that. So now that I'm a fifteen time world champion.
Speaker 7: I'm like, yeah, no, I'm gonna start getting some endorsement, sponsorsitions, SOUF.
Speaker 1: All right, cool for you?
Speaker 4: What motivates you now to keep going?
Speaker 2: I mean, you're it's hard to believe your twenty nins,
Speaker 2: you know, because it feels like you've been on the
Speaker 2: scene for so long. But what what would you say
Speaker 2: is your motivation now?
Speaker 7: My motivation for me is that I haven't gotten through
Speaker 7: where I want to get to yet. And it's not
Speaker 7: I mean, in boxing, I can retire right now. I'm
Speaker 7: going down the Hall of Fame, you know, but and
Speaker 7: be regarded as one of the greatest women boxers to
Speaker 7: ever live. I get that, But it's like I want
Speaker 7: I still girls, I want to fight.
Speaker 1: I got records, I want to break.
Speaker 7: I got a vision of myself that's so big, and
Speaker 7: it's like, that's what motivates me. It's like, I have
Speaker 7: to get there to feel that satisfaction for me, not
Speaker 7: nobody else.
Speaker 1: For me. I got to get there.
Speaker 2: Have you thought about or how much have you thought
Speaker 2: about how much longer you want to do this?
Speaker 1: Because boxing is you.
Speaker 2: Know, it's one of those sports that it has a
Speaker 2: certain shelf life because of the physicality. So how much
Speaker 2: longer do you or how much thought have you given
Speaker 2: to how long you want your career to be.
Speaker 7: I've been boxing eighteen years now, you know, and I
Speaker 7: think I'm going to retire when I'm boxing at twenty six,
Speaker 7: so I have eight more years in boxing. So those
Speaker 7: who thought they wanted me to go on ahead eight years
Speaker 7: thirty eight, I'm going to retire.
Speaker 1: Really And why did that number? Why?
Speaker 7: I don't know, because I think if I don't retire
Speaker 7: at thirty eight, I'm going to be boxing on fifty.
Speaker 7: So it's just like, but you know what the also too,
Speaker 7: I'm saying thirty eight. But if I'm still in great
Speaker 7: shape and I can whoop these girls at forty and fifty,
Speaker 7: you would do it?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: Why not? But Hopkins did it? You know?
Speaker 7: So he was boxing at fifty. I think he was
Speaker 7: boxing at fifty. So for me, I'm just like, but
Speaker 7: that's the age, you know. I feel like twenty six
Speaker 7: years boxing, I think I'll be Okay, I've done enough fighting.
Speaker 7: I don't have you know what, I'm going to retire
Speaker 7: when when that bone in me when it like comes
Speaker 7: to a fight, when like the fire don't light up
Speaker 7: that's when I retire. And I'm thinking that age to
Speaker 7: be thirty eight. It's not gonna be before then. But
Speaker 7: it's like, if somebody challenges me, and I don't get like, oh.
Speaker 1: You're challenging me. You think you can beat me, You
Speaker 1: want to fight.
Speaker 7: Me, and and I don't get that hunger to go
Speaker 7: train and work and then I'll retire.
Speaker 1: But till then, I'm just gonna keep beating these girls up.
Speaker 1: Dare I say, I guess if the fire inside it's
Speaker 1: not that the fire inside is not there, then on
Speaker 1: fire side, yeah, then you're like, I won't box now?
Speaker 2: Do you you're the first woman in boxing to get
Speaker 2: a seven figure pay for a fight. When you think
Speaker 2: about your legacy, do you think what you have? You know,
Speaker 2: individually you've been able to accomplish all these things financially
Speaker 2: in the sport, But do you think the success, the
Speaker 2: financial success that you've established that women's boxers can have,
Speaker 2: you think that's sustainable? Like, do you think that if
Speaker 2: there's another woman that comes along who you know is
Speaker 2: able to accomplish some of the same things that you did,
Speaker 2: that she's going to get a payday that is as
Speaker 2: big or bigger than yours. You know what I mean
Speaker 2: that you've laid the foundation. Yes, I am creating a
Speaker 2: full blueprint.
Speaker 7: I'm a promoter, so I got t Rex promotion, so
Speaker 7: I actually promote a woman fighter, and I'm giving her
Speaker 7: audi jewels and stuff that I know so she can.
Speaker 1: Get her big paydays too.
Speaker 7: It's a blueprint now on how you make a million
Speaker 7: dollars even if you don't have the gold medals. And
Speaker 7: that's shown with Katie Hiller and Amni Torano. You know
Speaker 7: that they made a million and I've made a million,
Speaker 7: And I'm trying to think, is there any other woman
Speaker 7: that made a million in box?
Speaker 1: I think it's just us for right now. But I
Speaker 1: am letting them know. It is a blueprint, and I
Speaker 1: always the biggest blueprint is built your brand. In terms
Speaker 1: of pay equity.
Speaker 2: Another thing that you fought for is when it came
Speaker 2: to the Olympics. You know, for a female boxer to
Speaker 2: get paid the same as they do for mailboxes when
Speaker 2: they're training and everything for the Olympics. And I looked
Speaker 2: it up and I saw that I think it was
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, Congress actually passed a law that
Speaker 2: said that American athletes who are representing Team USA in
Speaker 2: international competitions, you have to pay them the same, regardless
Speaker 2: of gender. And it feels like that was a fight
Speaker 2: that you fought and you won. So when you think
Speaker 2: about out the legacy that you have left as someone
Speaker 2: who fought those kind of battles, you know, how does
Speaker 2: that make you feel about your purpose?
Speaker 7: You know, I alway wanted to stand for something bigger
Speaker 7: than myself. And that's why, you know, I told Tim Usa, listen,
Speaker 7: if you guys don't pay us like you paid the men,
Speaker 7: I won't even go back to the twenty sixteen Olympics
Speaker 7: and I'm the reigning Olympic champion, and they're like, okay,
Speaker 7: you got it. And the women were getting paid the
Speaker 7: same as the men. You know, I was getting paid
Speaker 7: five thousand a month actually leading up to the Olympics.
Speaker 1: It wasn't three. It's say three in the.
Speaker 7: Movie, but it was actually five because I was returning
Speaker 7: Olympic go milest So I was getting paid more than
Speaker 7: the men actually, But I think that that's where the
Speaker 7: fight started at. But I didn't know that things were
Speaker 7: so unequal like that because all I did was focus
Speaker 7: on boxing. You know, it wasn't until I had conversation
Speaker 7: with the men, like how much y'all get paid them on?
Speaker 7: You know, people don't have this conversations because they say, oh,
Speaker 7: you know, some people can't talk. They contracts and checks
Speaker 7: or whatever the case may be. But I was just like,
Speaker 7: you know, I was curious how much how much I
Speaker 7: make a month? And they'd tell me. I'm like, really, hum,
Speaker 7: that's interesting. And I mean, I just didn't grow up
Speaker 7: around that type of stuff. Like when I was at
Speaker 7: the gym with all the guys. Coach didn't make me
Speaker 7: run less, I didn't punch the bag less, I didn't
Speaker 7: spar less, I did everything like the guy. So I
Speaker 7: didn't think that these differences between men and women even
Speaker 7: existed until I got a little older. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 7: this is what these girls were talking about. Oh okay,
Speaker 7: So now that I know about it, I joined the
Speaker 7: fight for it now. When I turned pro my first
Speaker 7: you know, I reached out to uh, Laila Ali and
Speaker 7: a Wolf and.
Speaker 1: I asked and Wolf how much was her highest payday
Speaker 1: in boxing?
Speaker 7: Told me fifty K. I said, but you're a real champ,
Speaker 7: you only fifty fifty K? I asked that Laila alien.
Speaker 7: This is word the word this is on my grandmother.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: I asked her how much would how much did you
Speaker 7: get paid for your highest payday? She told me six
Speaker 7: hundred thousand, and I said, in my mind, I said, okay,
Speaker 7: so it's possible. In my mind, I said, it's possible
Speaker 7: for me to make a high of six hundred K.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought to myself.
Speaker 7: So to be able to make a million, I was like, wow,
Speaker 7: you know, how did we get here? But that's how
Speaker 7: I know that when women's boxing had changed. But my
Speaker 7: first payday in boxing, my first professional fight, I got
Speaker 7: paid fifty K. That's when I knew. I said, see,
Speaker 7: times is changing, stuff is changing. And I didn't know
Speaker 7: how or where. I knew it had a lot to
Speaker 7: do with me and my Olympic gold medals. But I said,
Speaker 7: I got to keep building off of this. So every
Speaker 7: time when I thought, I let him know, hey, I
Speaker 7: got to go up twenty five thousand, fifty thousand on
Speaker 7: a K. When I became undisputed, I told them to
Speaker 7: double my check and they were like, oh, Curris, no
Speaker 7: woman's ever made three hundred and fifty k in boxing.
Speaker 7: When I said, you won't be seeing me in the
Speaker 7: ring unless you pay me it. I'm undisputed now.
Speaker 1: And it was a fight.
Speaker 7: You guys all thought I was gonna lose, and you
Speaker 7: put me in here with this girl that was twenty one,
Speaker 7: you know, with ten knockouts and I had seven fights.
Speaker 1: Mhm.
Speaker 7: Y'all paid me one hundred and fifty for the fight,
Speaker 7: or I think it was one seventy five. I said,
Speaker 7: my next fight better be three fifty or I'm not fighting.
Speaker 7: To my promoter that I told show Time that and
Speaker 7: they were like, Claris said, nobody, No woman's made that
Speaker 7: kind of money.
Speaker 1: I said, m hmm okay. And I sat at home
Speaker 1: for about a month and I was like, no phone
Speaker 1: call Yoka, all right, cool? Cool now.
Speaker 7: I always not my promoter car and said, hey Chris,
Speaker 7: we got it. Since you got what we got you
Speaker 7: three fifty, okay, what's the day when we're when we're
Speaker 7: fighting and its been a champions back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, You've been able to win in so many different
Speaker 2: weight classes and h to prefer our interview.
Speaker 4: I was reading this one story that I think they
Speaker 4: called it.
Speaker 2: They called your new class the Clarissa Wait, because it's
Speaker 2: like you established I can fight at whatever whatever I need.
Speaker 1: Yeah, however I need to fight out.
Speaker 4: Hey, do you have a weight you prefer to fight at?
Speaker 7: One sixty eight? One sixty? That's I feel the best
Speaker 7: at one sixty eight. I feel good at one sixty.
Speaker 7: I mean I feel deprived at one fifty four. But
Speaker 7: I went down there and I fought and I beat
Speaker 7: beat all the girls there.
Speaker 1: But sixty and sixty eights where I'm comfortable at.
Speaker 7: I mean, seventy five seventy five plus for heavyweight is
Speaker 7: cool too, But I just I find a way to
Speaker 7: be comfortable at whatever weight class that I'm at. You know,
Speaker 7: I do the diet and right, I be strategic. I
Speaker 7: have a great nutritionist team try out to perfect the athletes.
Speaker 7: Like so, I think I feel good everywhere, but sixty
Speaker 7: eight is like naturally where I'm like, Okay, that's where I.
Speaker 2: Now that you've gotten a little taste of Hollywood. I
Speaker 2: mean you see that you know boxers, and I know
Speaker 2: you've flirted with uh with MMA before. A lot of
Speaker 2: athletes in your position make that turn into acting, make
Speaker 2: that turn into doing entertainment.
Speaker 1: Is that something that you've considered?
Speaker 7: Now you know I've done some acting, Okay, so I
Speaker 7: don't believe in like, oh, you should wait to retire
Speaker 7: to do the acting. So I've done some acting now
Speaker 7: and I actually I actually have a movie role coming
Speaker 7: up that I have to get ready for. I'm planning
Speaker 7: a cop in a movie. So yeah, hopefully we you
Speaker 7: know that that's on a big platform. You guys be
Speaker 7: able to see it. If you don't sit on the platform,
Speaker 7: you sit on my page for sure. So I'm playing
Speaker 7: a cop. Okay, it's other movie opportunities, but right now,
Speaker 7: I just I've been so busy promoting a movie and
Speaker 7: now I just start promoting my next fight, and that's
Speaker 7: what I've been focused on. But I am I do
Speaker 7: want to be an actress. That's what I want to do,
Speaker 7: and I'm not gonna wait to after I'm done boxing
Speaker 7: to do it. I feel like I can still do
Speaker 7: some stuff now. And I want to be more motivational speaker.
Speaker 7: I want to model. You know, it's so many things
Speaker 7: that I want to do that I feel like I
Speaker 7: can do. I just have to find a time to
Speaker 7: do it. But I definitely believe that.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite stories involving you is and you
Speaker 2: put this on your Instagram page it's when old girl, Uh,
Speaker 2: when the woman showed up at the gym. Oh god, like, listen,
Speaker 2: this this is where I am. If you want to smoke,
Speaker 2: come up here. And this this was somebody I guess
Speaker 2: you sort of mentored a little bit right like that.
Speaker 2: It reached out to you and said, hey, you know
Speaker 2: what I want to I want to be you. I
Speaker 2: want to be a fighter for real in this game.
Speaker 2: And you, you know, offered to be mentor them. But
Speaker 2: then things were left and somehow they thought that they
Speaker 2: could talk slick to you, and you let her know
Speaker 2: what she could show up, and when she showed up,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking she didn't realize that was probably the wrong decision.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what.
Speaker 2: Selfishly seeing how people how slick people talk on social
Speaker 2: media for those of us, you know, I mean, I
Speaker 2: ain't got hands like that, but there are so many
Speaker 2: times that I wish I could put my hands on
Speaker 2: some of these people who talk slick across social media.
Speaker 1: So what't you tell people? Oh girl? You know, Mike
Speaker 1: Tyson said it best.
Speaker 7: Social media has made people like comfortable that they can
Speaker 7: say whatever they want without getting hitting the mouth for it.
Speaker 2: Correct, and they never had their ass whipping and they
Speaker 2: talked like it and they need it, Yeah, they.
Speaker 1: Do, you know.
Speaker 7: And I would say with that, I didn't tell her
Speaker 7: to come to the gym. I didn't invite her to
Speaker 7: come to the gym. I had my hundred thousand dollar
Speaker 7: challenge going on, Like if any girl she want to
Speaker 7: come to the gym.
Speaker 4: Yes, I was like, I thought it was part of something.
Speaker 7: But she never reached out and said she wanted to
Speaker 7: do a challenge. I just showed up to the gym
Speaker 7: to spar against these two grown men, professional fighters, to
Speaker 7: get ready for my championship fight July twenty seventh that
Speaker 7: I had.
Speaker 1: And she trolled me so much. I got over a
Speaker 1: million followers.
Speaker 7: But she told me so much that it was like
Speaker 7: I know this girl, like I know this girl face, now,
Speaker 7: I know her voice now, like he trold.
Speaker 1: Me so much. So as I'm walking into the gym
Speaker 1: to start getting ready to spark against these men, I
Speaker 1: see her. So she just showed up an announced.
Speaker 2: I thought, you like, hey, if you got all that smoke, nah,
Speaker 2: this is where I'm gonna be.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 7: So I'm showing up to do what I do, and
Speaker 7: that's prepared for my World championship fight. That I have
Speaker 7: coming up in Detroit at Little Caesars in front nineteen
Speaker 7: thousand people. I gotta get ready and I walk in
Speaker 7: the gym and my eyes I looked in the ring
Speaker 7: because I like to know who around.
Speaker 1: I looked in the ring. I said, oh, I know
Speaker 1: this bitch, and then I said, Clarissa s yeah. All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I just I clicked out. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I clicked out. I walked into the ring.
Speaker 7: She like, yeah, Chris, I told you when I when
Speaker 7: I see what was up, I said, what you here?
Speaker 1: F why at my gym? Fo? She said?
Speaker 7: She said, I'm here to get a couple of rounds
Speaker 7: spar with you. I said, I'm about to fuck you up.
Speaker 1: Well, I told her. I said I'm gonna fuck you
Speaker 1: up bad. And then she was.
Speaker 7: And then I was like, I got, I got, I
Speaker 7: got you for a run round. She was like, I
Speaker 7: didn't call off work to come get one round and
Speaker 7: said that's all. You're gonna last one round for you one.
Speaker 7: Then she got the argument, we ain't going two rounds.
Speaker 7: I'm about to leave, da da. I said, you think
Speaker 7: you about to leave when you disrespect me?
Speaker 1: And I tried to run up and here outside the ring.
Speaker 1: I was so mad.
Speaker 7: Then all of a sudden, my ex fiance grabbing me,
Speaker 7: my homegirl bedy grabbing me, my best friend nanny grabbed me.
Speaker 7: I'm like, y'all need to don't nobody touch me.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm, I'm I don't I done.
Speaker 7: Click thout because it's something about I don't disrespect nobody.
Speaker 7: I don't do that. Like I'm personally. If I dispect you,
Speaker 7: I want you to dispect me back, like I won't
Speaker 7: smoke if like, if I walk up to you, I'm
Speaker 7: talking in trash. I expect you to talk trash back,
Speaker 7: and if you want to get active, we get acted.
Speaker 1: That's what I expect. That's why I don't do that.
Speaker 1: I don't do that.
Speaker 7: But it was like the fact that she tried to
Speaker 7: make it seem like somebody scared of her. She did
Speaker 7: shed add and what I'm listen, I don't duck, no smoke,
Speaker 7: zero like I'm changing my brand of course, all that
Speaker 7: good stuff, but do not play with me.
Speaker 1: I'm not one of them. Man. She got dressed. We
Speaker 1: went in the ring.
Speaker 7: I said, enough talking to you, because she got the
Speaker 7: cursing and your boyfriend this and your boyfriend that and
Speaker 7: I'm make you my beat.
Speaker 1: D da da. She was talking crazy. I said, okay,
Speaker 1: that's how I am. I don't like all this shut up.
Speaker 1: I want to fight. I don't put my hands on you.
Speaker 1: That's me. That's why with the social media, i'd be
Speaker 1: like kind of baked girls in like do you want
Speaker 1: to fight? Or now you want to scrap? Like what's up?
Speaker 7: So I don't do that. Do all that talking because
Speaker 7: everybody can do it. Everybody can do the talking, but
Speaker 7: can you really back up what you say? I'm a
Speaker 7: backer upper. So she she got dressed, we got in
Speaker 7: the ring, We had a we had a red fern there.
Speaker 2: Said like I said, it's got anybody watching right now,
Speaker 2: go see the video because it's on my YouTube, on
Speaker 2: your YouTube, and I can tell when you hit that girl.
Speaker 1: The first time, I was like, oh no, this is
Speaker 1: going bad.
Speaker 7: All trying to knock her out. And then the thing is,
Speaker 7: I got so much class when it like when it
Speaker 7: comes to boxing that when she start covering up, I
Speaker 7: stop hitting her. I stopped hearing her. I said, man,
Speaker 7: I've been ana kute this, I've been I've been Jills.
Speaker 7: And then she oh her own her stomach, hold her head.
Speaker 1: I was like, look at it, stup bit. But you
Speaker 1: know what, sometime jamill just hear me out. Just him.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to make an example a lot of people.
Speaker 2: You are preaching to the choir, that let all the
Speaker 2: girls who was considering trying to get the honey k
Speaker 2: or who was considering trying to come to the gym
Speaker 2: to respect me, that let them know, oh she not
Speaker 2: she professional, but.
Speaker 1: She she's from the streets. She gonna kick our ass.
Speaker 1: We come down here.
Speaker 4: Did anybody did anybody take you up on any k?
Speaker 1: Come on? Now? I think the first one I have
Speaker 1: to be the girl came off to the gym.
Speaker 2: Now you gotta that one hundred K. Was like, if
Speaker 2: they can beat you, if they can beat me, you god,
Speaker 2: oh my god, it ain't just show up. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: if that's the case, everybody, I was like, right now,
Speaker 2: I'll let you fire on me, right I was after
Speaker 2: that Timmy Hers episode. But I'll let you fire on
Speaker 2: me right now. For as you just said, as we
Speaker 2: wrap up here. So, uh, I ask every guest that
Speaker 2: appears on politics here, uh what I call the messy question.
Speaker 2: Now you mentioned you you don't dunckt the smoke, and
Speaker 2: anybody who follows you on social media says that you don't.
Speaker 1: Dust the smoke.
Speaker 4: You get paid to fight.
Speaker 2: So given the recent events, I am wondering, what would
Speaker 2: it take? How much money would it take for you
Speaker 2: to jump in the ring with bring me my.
Speaker 1: Just what it out? I mean, at this point the
Speaker 1: girl leaked my number, she leads your number, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: what your actual telephone number? Yeah? Oh my god.
Speaker 7: So at this point you can give me a dollar
Speaker 7: and I'll put my hands a dollar.
Speaker 1: That's it. Don't have nothing to do with whatever else.
Speaker 7: It's just that part alone, that that part of that
Speaker 7: part theories where it's like, I'm a businesswoman, don't leak
Speaker 7: my number?
Speaker 1: Why would you do that?
Speaker 7: You know you should have came to me like Shirley,
Speaker 7: Hello Barber.
Speaker 4: Charlotte, and you're too young to know about.
Speaker 1: I guess I got an own soul or whatever. But
Speaker 1: it's about hello Barber. This is surely for real. But
Speaker 1: it's more of the more thing like but she's not
Speaker 1: no boxer. You know what I'm saying. If you know
Speaker 1: she hain't no boxer, So I don't want to have
Speaker 1: to put my hands on it do you?
Speaker 2: I have to say, like I I was so surprised
Speaker 2: when I saw you trending.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, did she be somebody else?
Speaker 2: Like I was like, oh my, were you surprised at
Speaker 2: everything that happened? Like all of a sudden, you're trending
Speaker 2: people trying to put your personal life out there. You know,
Speaker 2: how did you basically handle it? I mean I saw
Speaker 2: some of the comments that you made on social media,
Speaker 2: but like I mean, for you, that had to be
Speaker 2: a bit surprising because you're out there in the public.
Speaker 1: But you know, this is a much different way. Well
Speaker 1: one I have decided that moving forward that I would
Speaker 1: like my dat in life to be private.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. And there's plenty of reasons
Speaker 7: why I don't really care about outside perception of of myself.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know.
Speaker 7: I say, I wasn't surprised when I when I seen it,
Speaker 7: I said, oh my god. But it's one of those
Speaker 7: things where it's like, don't people have to spend there?
Speaker 7: It is and it's like we all know that this
Speaker 7: woman had a boyfriend. We all know that, and this
Speaker 7: situation is so weird because it's like we falls on
Speaker 7: the phone all the time, so just like to see this.
Speaker 7: It's just like okay, but I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I thought it was I thought it was weird and
Speaker 7: it's strange, but black. I mean, drama sells, that's it. Drama,
Speaker 7: drama sales, and it's not.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I'm not in that beef.
Speaker 7: You know, only my my smoke with her is is
Speaker 7: posting my number. It don't got nothing to do with
Speaker 7: I don't got nothing to do with him. It was
Speaker 7: her posting my number. So people like, oh, she wants
Speaker 7: to fight, fight her over a dude, whatever, stop it,
Speaker 7: stop it. That is so beneath me. It is the
Speaker 7: direspect of the leak in my number part and that's it.
Speaker 7: Other than that, I don't got nothing else to do with.
Speaker 7: None of the other stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, the timing of it, I mean a lot of
Speaker 2: people are going to see your movie anyway, the.
Speaker 7: Fires Christmas Day, the Fire Inside comes out in theaters.
Speaker 2: Now there's some other there might be another curious contingent
Speaker 2: that comes to see to try to figure out, like, oh,
Speaker 2: I wonder what.
Speaker 1: Her backstory is.
Speaker 2: But for all those who are watching it, watching it,
Speaker 2: listening like the movie really is good. I'm not just
Speaker 2: blowing smoke up in your ass like it's a good movie.
Speaker 1: It is a great movie.
Speaker 2: One more segment to go, and you guys know what
Speaker 2: that means. I got questions to answer up next, your
Speaker 2: viewer slash listener questions, and I have plenty of answers
Speaker 2: coming up next on the final segment of Spotatives. And
Speaker 2: before I close out this episode of Politics, time for
Speaker 2: this week's audience question, which comes from Frank Simmons out
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Speaker 2: and if so, what's your opinion of the team. Now,
Speaker 2: for those who may not be familiar, in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: Fisk University became the first historically black college and university
Speaker 2: to establish a gymnastics team. But to answer the question, yes,
Speaker 2: I have followed this team because I heard about Morgan Price,
Speaker 2: who earlier this year became the first athlete from an
Speaker 2: HBCU team to win a national championship. Now coming out
Speaker 2: of high school, Morgan was a five star level recruit
Speaker 2: who initially committed to Arkansas, but then she did committed
Speaker 2: to go to FIST because, according to her coach, Kauran
Speaker 2: Tarvor Korean asked her flat out, do you want to
Speaker 2: make history? And that's exactly what Morgan Price did. So
Speaker 2: shout out to Fisk University for what they've accomplished. Also,
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