1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:01,440 Speaker 1: Hey, what's up, everybody. 2 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:05,199 Speaker 2: I'm Jammelle Hill and welcome to Politics and iHeart podcast 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: and Unbothered Network production. 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Time to get spolitical. 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: Last week, Time magazine revealed its Athlete of the Year, and. 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: The choice was Caitlyn Clark. Now, I thought the honor 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: was well deserved. 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: When you look at this year, few, if any, athletes 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: have had the impact that she's had on women's basketball, 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: really on any sport at both the college and the 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: professional level. And march, Clark became the NCAA men's and 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: women's all time scoring leader. A couple months later, her 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: Iowa team met undefeated South Carolina in the National Championship 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: and while South Carolina won the title, that game averaged 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: eighteen point four million viewers, and for the first time 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: in history, the women's national championship game had more viewers 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: than the men. Game also averaged more viewers than any 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: of the NBA Finals games between the Boston Celtics and. 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks and the WNBA. 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: Clark won Rookie of the Year and her Indiana Fever 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: team made the playoffs for the first time since twenty sixteen. Now, 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: if I listed all the ratings records that Caitlin Clark 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: broke in the WNBA. I'd be talking to you all 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: for another hour, but I think you get what her impact. 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: Was this season. 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 2: Now, as part of This Time Magazine honor, writer Sean 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: Gregory wrote a terrific piece about Clark, who hasn't done 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: many one on one interviews this year. So this was 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: the first time that we are hearing from her at length, 30 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: or I should say the first time in some time 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: we're hearing from her at lyngth and ball. Some of 32 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: her supporters mad about the things she said. 33 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: Ever since Angel Reese did. 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: This, and Angel Reese knows a ring is coming. 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: Race has been part of the conversation, whether we like 36 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: it or not. At that moment in the National Championship 37 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 2: game between LSU and Iowa, racial battle lines were drawn. 38 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark was certainly a popular player before that National Championship, 39 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: for her popularity exploded among a certain group, and let's 40 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: just say it was a group of folks that could 41 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 2: not stand the site of a black woman talking trash 42 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: in this manner to a heralded white player, even though 43 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: that same white player had done the same gesture in 44 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: a basketball game before. 45 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: Now, as Clark's popularity continued to explode. 46 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: Those of us with common sense and good observational skills 47 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: could see the truth. While the majority of people root 48 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: for Clark because she's a generational talent, there was another 49 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: loud contingent in the room that saw Clark's success as 50 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: an opportunity to let off some steam about how they 51 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 2: really felt about black women. That loud contingent is now 52 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: big mad because it turns out that Caitlyn Clark isn't 53 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: nearly as hateful and unaware as they wanted her to be. 54 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: In the Time magazine piece, Clark made made it clear 55 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: that she found the racist, misogynistic attacks and homophobic narratives 56 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: to be upsetting and gross. 57 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: Those were her exact words. But here's the. 58 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: Quote that really pissed off her so called fans. Caitlin 59 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 2: Clark said, I want to say I've earned every single thing, 60 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: but as a white person, there is privilege. A lot 61 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: of those players in the league that have been really 62 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: good have been black players. The league has kind of 63 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: been built on them. The more we can appreciate that 64 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: highlight that talk about that and then continue to have 65 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: brands and companies invest in those players that have made 66 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: this league incredible. I think it's very important. I have 67 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: to continue to try to change that. The more we 68 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: can elevate black women, that's going to be a beautiful thing. 69 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: Oh they was mad, heeded. How does fish grease that? 70 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: Clark not only acknowledged her privilege, but she then committed 71 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: a deeper internal sin. She had the nerve to publicly 72 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: acknowledge and appreciate the contributions of other black women black women. 73 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: A lot of her fake fans again had that hatred 74 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: for from conservative media personality Megan Kelly, who tweeted, look 75 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: at this, she's on the knee all but apologizing for 76 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: being white and getting attention the self flagellation, the oh, 77 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: please pay attention to the black players who are really 78 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: the ones you want to celebrate. Condescending, fake, transparent sad well. 79 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: I guess it could be worse. 80 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 4: Kitlyn Clark could have said she supports black Santa's. 81 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: Santa Claus should not be a white man anymore. 82 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: Yet another person claiming it's racist to have a white Santa. 83 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 4: You know, and by the way, for all your kids 84 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 4: watching at home, Sanna. 85 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: Just is white. 86 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 2: I bet Megan Kelly ain't even got a black coffee 87 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: cup in her house because that's how much she can't 88 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: stand black people now. Megan Kelly, though she wasn't the 89 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: only one who took a leap off the Caitlyn Clark 90 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: bandwagon because of her comments in Time magazine. Former college 91 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: swimmer and right wing darling Riley Gaines came jumping off 92 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 2: her griftin top rope to create size Clark as well. 93 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: Gains tweeted, no one was asking for Kaitlin Clark to 94 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: position herself as. 95 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 4: A right wing hero. All she needed to do was 96 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 4: remain neutral. She's a phenim who inspires countless young girls 97 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 4: to play and achieve, So I still have great admiration 98 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 4: for her, but she missed the mark on this one. 99 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 4: For those scoring at home. 100 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two, Riley Gaines finished fifth and the 101 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: two hundred meter freestyle final at the NCAA Women's Championship. 102 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: She soon because the winner of the race was transgender 103 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: swimmer Leah Thomas. But even if Leah Thomas were not 104 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: in that race, the highest Gains would have finished was fourth. 105 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: An old girl been riding that fourth place finish to 106 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: conservative media stardom ever since. If I'm Leah Thomas, I'm 107 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: asking her for a cut. At this point, I knew 108 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: this moment would unfortunately come for Kaitlyn Clark, who was 109 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: probably the most unintentionally controversial athlete in professional sports right now. 110 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: The moment these fake fans of hers got any indication 111 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: she didn't support the same clownish shit that they did, 112 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: they were going to come for her. You saw that 113 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: when she liked Taylor Swift's social media posts where she 114 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: endorsed vice president Kamala Harris. What's hilarious is watching these 115 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: people twist themselves into notts because in this time profile, 116 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: Clark debunked a lot of the false narratives that they pushed. No, 117 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,119 Speaker 2: she didn't think she was targeted by WNBA players. In fact, 118 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: if anything, Clark said, she realizes that most of the 119 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: college competition she faced was substandard and it took her 120 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: some time to adjust to the WNBA. Clark said, professional 121 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 2: players and professional coaches, This is no disrespect to college 122 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: women's basketball are a lot smarter. I love women's college basketball, 123 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: but if you go back and watch the way people 124 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 2: guarded me in college, it's almost like concerning. They didn't 125 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 2: double me, they didn't trap me, they weren't physical, and 126 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: it's hard, it's college. A lot of those women will 127 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: never go on to play another basketball game in their life. 128 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: They don't have the IQ of understanding how the game works. 129 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: So I completely understand it, and it's no disrespect at all. 130 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: They don't have the IQ. You have to simplify it 131 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: for girls at that age, which was basically the same 132 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: shit Diana Tarassi said, and y'all came to herd with pitchforks. Now, 133 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: I personally never thought that Caitlyn Clark was required to 134 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: speak about anything other than just basketball. She's just twenty 135 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: two years old and still coming into her own personally 136 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: and professionally. If she never mentioned race, privilege, or gender 137 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: in this article, I certainly wouldn't have thought less of her. 138 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: But the players in the w especially the black women, 139 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: will appreciate that she used her position and her platform 140 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: to speak up for them. And despite what her defecting 141 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: fans have said, Katelyn Clark didn't do that because she 142 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: felt any pressure or because she's been brainwashed by the 143 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: WoT mob. 144 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: This is a woman who comes off. 145 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: As very sure of herself and is certain about what 146 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: she stands for. 147 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 5: There's always going to be some negativity, and I feel 148 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 5: like you have had to answer more questions than anybody 149 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 5: about the intersectionality of race and gender and sexuality in 150 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 5: sport because of just who you are, and you represent 151 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 5: the growth of this thing. And even today, earlier today 152 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 5: Meg and Kelly, she was saying that you were apologizing 153 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 5: for your white privilege and the fact that you wanted 154 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 5: to uplift black female athletes and make sure that they 155 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 5: were getting the shine kind of like your pioneers were 156 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 5: getting the shine that they deserve. 157 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: And I just want to know how you feel or 158 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: how you. 159 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 5: Respond to some of those criticisms when you have to 160 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 5: deal with something that it's really not your problem, Like 161 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 5: I feel like it's them looking in a mirror a 162 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 5: little bit, but it still comes down on your shoulders. 163 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 6: I feel like I always have had really good perspective 164 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 6: on everything that's kind of happened in my life, whether 165 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 6: that's been good, whether that's been bad. And then obviously 166 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 6: coming to the WNBA, like I've said, I feel like 167 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 6: I've earned every single thing that's happened to me over 168 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 6: the course of my career. But also I grew up 169 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 6: a fan of this league from a very young age, 170 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 6: Like My favorite player was Maya More, Like I know 171 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 6: what this league was about, and like I said, like, 172 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 6: it's only been around twenty five plus years, so I 173 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 6: know there's been so many amazing black women that have 174 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 6: been in this league. And continuing to uplift them, I 175 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 6: think is very important and that's something I'm very aware of. 176 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 6: And like I said, like I try to just be 177 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 6: real and authentic and share my truth. And I think 178 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 6: that's very easy for me. Like I'm very comfortable in 179 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 6: my own skin, and that's kind of ben how it 180 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 6: is my entire life. 181 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 2: Kate Le Clark is standing on who she is. Meanwhile, 182 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: her critics are standing on some bullshit. I'm Jamel Hill, 183 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,239 Speaker 2: and I approve this message. Coming up next on Spolitics, 184 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: my guest for this episode is another woman whose career 185 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: is built on standing on business. She's a two time 186 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: Olympic gold medalist who has multiple world championships and five 187 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 2: weight classes. She's the first woman in history to earn 188 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 2: a seven figure person in a boxing match. Her story 189 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: is so incredibly inspiring, and it's so inspiring that it's 190 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: coming to us in movie form in theaters on Christmas Day. 191 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: Coming up next on Spolitics, the quote the greatest woman 192 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: of all time, Floressa Shields. 193 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: Claris. 194 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: I want to thank you so much for joining me. 195 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: You're making history. You're the first person to actually be 196 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: in studio with me. 197 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: In this podcast studio. 198 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: So I just want to thank you for blessing it, 199 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: for ordaining it. Of course, especially a super talented woman 200 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: like yourself, it makes it even more makes it even 201 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: more special. But I'm going to start by asking you 202 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 2: a question that I ask every guest that appears on 203 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: this podcast, and that is, name the athlete or the 204 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: sport that made you the athlete, Name the athlete or 205 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 2: the moment that made you love sports? 206 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 7: Honest Lee, I have to say, like, my love for 207 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 7: sports started with seeing Serena Williams play tennis. 208 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: This is before I was boxing. 209 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 7: You know, my grandma was a big uh Venus and 210 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 7: Serena Williams fan, and. 211 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:07,479 Speaker 1: We watched Dwight. 212 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 7: Howard growing up when he was a magic man and 213 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 7: all that stuff or was it magic mean a miracle? 214 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: I think it's magic man. 215 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 7: And I have to say my grandma always was like, 216 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 7: we watched Surrenda Williams player all the time. 217 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: So before I even chose boxing, I knew about tennis. 218 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 4: Did you ever think about playing tennis because you saw her? 219 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: No? But I wanted to do sports though. 220 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 7: I played basketball and football growing up and ran track, 221 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 7: and then when I turned eleven, I started boxing. So 222 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 7: before boxing, I had already kind of known I was 223 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 7: an athlete. I ran track, I did karate, I played basketball, 224 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 7: I played flag football in school. I played real football 225 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 7: with the guys in the hood in the in the field. 226 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 7: I've even strained. I even spranged my wrists one time 227 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 7: because one of the guys tackled me. 228 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 2: Oh, y'all was out there for real, Like, yeah, So 229 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: I always have love for sports, but I think seeing 230 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: Serrenda Williams, I was like, okay, I can do sports. 231 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: Not like tennis, but I can do sports. Okay. 232 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: Now that fire inside your biopic is out, What does 233 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: it feel like to finally see this happen, that people 234 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: are able, well they will be as of Christmas Day, 235 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: that people are able to really learn about your story? 236 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: You know, I have been in a few of the premieres, 237 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: and to see. 238 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 7: People reactions as we watch the movie together, and to 239 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 7: know that the movie is about me, I'm always just 240 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 7: shook and I'm so excited for the world to see. 241 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: It on Christmas Day. 242 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 7: I believe that it's going to change so many lives, 243 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 7: going to change people's perspective of women's sports, women's boxing, 244 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 7: of me, and they'll see that it's hard being a 245 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 7: woman athlete. But the best of us who stay and 246 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 7: continue to push and continue to not quit, continue to 247 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 7: just fight the best and can control our brands, that 248 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 7: this is what all it takes to get here. And 249 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 7: I'm just ready to inspire a whole new generation of people. 250 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: The movie is very inspiring. 251 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: I got a chance to see it when it premiered 252 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, and I was really I mean, I 253 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: knew your story, but it's it's it's interesting when you 254 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: see it all put together. 255 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like much more powerful. 256 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: And I think you had told me previously that, oh 257 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: it'll make you laugh, it'll make you tear up. It 258 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: was a couple of times I definitely got emotional. I 259 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: didn't let that Denzel glow ear dry. But it was 260 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: a few times. 261 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,239 Speaker 1: That I got emotional. 262 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: But I saw it as a ninety six percent score 263 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: already on Rotten Tomato. So you know, how do you 264 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: think this film or were you at all anxious about 265 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: how this film might be received. 266 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: No, I wasn't anxious about it. 267 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 7: One thing I've known the whole time is that my 268 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 7: story is very resilient, you know, in that it's a 269 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 7: story that needs to be told that the sports world needs. 270 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 7: It's filled with so many different dynamics, and I just 271 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 7: feel like I'm a different type of woman, right And 272 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 7: I always been that way. And they're like, why is 273 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 7: she like that? You know, where did this come from? 274 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 7: Is she cocky or is she confident? Is she arrogant? 275 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: You know? Is she angry or is she just passionate? 276 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 7: And I hope that when they watch the movie they 277 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 7: see that I'm very passionate about boxing. I am not 278 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 7: an angry black woman who boxed because I was sexually 279 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 7: abused and I want to be the men. 280 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: Now, that's not why a box. And it's kind of immatuity. 281 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 7: People have that as the story about me for a 282 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 7: very long time, and it's still like, what, I'm breaking 283 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 7: all these records? You think, you guys think I'm breaking 284 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 7: all these records just because I hate men. It don't 285 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 7: have nothing to do with that. It's because I want 286 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 7: to be great at something and I want to be 287 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 7: remembered after I die. I always knew that my story 288 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 7: is going to change so many lives, and I feel 289 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 7: like God chose me to be the one to do it. 290 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 7: God told me I'll want to go melt the first time. 291 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 7: He told me I want to go melt a second time. 292 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 7: And even though I had no idea what the professional 293 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 7: ranks for the women held, you let me know you're 294 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 7: going to be the one to change women's boxing. 295 00:14:59,400 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: You have to do. 296 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a long time since I said this 297 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: about a movie, but after at the end of Yours, 298 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: I was thinking I could have had another thirty minutes 299 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: of that or another like it could have been like 300 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: longer in my fire inside. You're right, because it does 301 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: only it takes you up to your professional, you know, career. 302 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: And of course in the end notes, you know, we 303 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: know what happened. Obviously, they update people about where you 304 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: are and they show actual footage of you. Were you 305 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: concerned at all about how people close to you. 306 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: Might see their portrayals? Absolutely? 307 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 7: You know, And I'm happy that Ryan caught me and 308 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 7: was like, hey, you know, what was the relationship like 309 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 7: with your mom? 310 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: You know, at this age or at this stage of 311 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: your life, you know, and. 312 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 7: Everyone is okay, well how they were portrayed because everything 313 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 7: was the truth. 314 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: Okay. 315 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you that, like, how, yeah, what 316 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: percentage of this would you say? I mean, of course 317 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: it's Hollywood, they're gonna you know, it's gonna be some 318 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: drama that they were, but like, you know, what percentage 319 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: of this would you say it was true? 320 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: I would say ninety five percent of it with I. 321 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: Mean, that's pretty good for her for yeah, for Hollywood, 322 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: yeah it is, it is. 323 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: But I let them know everything in the movie. 324 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 7: I'm like, I want them to see the real stuff, 325 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 7: to see like this is what I went through. This 326 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 7: is how it was for me growing up, Like this 327 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 7: is how it was what I went through. I want 328 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 7: them to see it raw in the cut, just like 329 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 7: t Rex was. 330 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: What are the I mean pretty much the crux of 331 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: the movie is your relationship with Jason Crutchfield, who was 332 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: the person who sort of got you into the sport. 333 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: It was your trainer, mentor all those things. What's your 334 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: relationship like with Jason? 335 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: Now we don't. 336 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 7: Work together as far as in boxing, but every time 337 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 7: I see him, it's still just a woman brace. He 338 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 7: always tell me he happy for me, he proud me, 339 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 7: and we're happy that we got this movie about our 340 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 7: lives together. We were connected for life, and you know, 341 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 7: we want our first gold medal together, we want our 342 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 7: first world title together, and the professionals. And if Jason 343 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 7: everyone to try to coach me again, I'll let him, 344 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 7: would you, I would? 345 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: Look? 346 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 7: The only thing is to just I think I think 347 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 7: the disconnect was the personal life of it. You know, 348 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 7: even though he was like my dad, he didn't know 349 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 7: how to separate the dad and the coach, you know, 350 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 7: and he kind of mixed it all up in one, 351 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 7: and he made the rules being for both, like, Okay, 352 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 7: Dad say you can't date, in Coach say you can't date. 353 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 7: So if you don't listen to Dad, you don't listen 354 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 7: to coach. And then if coach get mad, he puts 355 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 7: you out the gym. And you know, it's just all 356 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 7: this stuff that was going on, and I just remember, 357 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 7: like dang, you know, not that I should have listened, 358 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 7: but it was just like I was grown at the time, 359 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 7: you know, and I had already accomplished getting a gold medals, 360 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 7: so having a boyfriend wasn't a big deal to me. 361 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 7: But if I knew what I know now, I would 362 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 7: definitely go back in time, and I just I would 363 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 7: have never, ever, ever, ever had a boyfriend. 364 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 4: It sounds like you're saying Jason might have been right. 365 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 7: It might have been right, but I did spend a 366 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 7: great four or five years with that guy, and we're 367 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 7: still friends now. 368 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: But I just think I don't know. 369 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 7: If I had a daughter, I will I will tell her, 370 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 7: you know, wait till you twenty five. 371 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 4: She will kind of do what you did, which is 372 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 4: not a right. 373 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: You know, that's just how that's that's how it goes. 374 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: Was there anybody who didn't like how they were portrayed? 375 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: My dad? 376 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 7: My dad didn't like how he was portrayed, and my 377 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 7: little brother is not even showcased much in the movie. 378 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: But he was like, I think my Charac should put 379 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: more effort into it. And I'm like, dude, you showed 380 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: three times three times. Shut up. 381 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 7: And actually, the guy that played my little brother, I think, 382 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 7: look a lot like my little brother and talk like 383 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 7: him and everything. And I was like, that a great 384 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 7: job casting this dude. But yeah, I don't know why 385 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 7: he was mad about that. I was like, Peter, you 386 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 7: weren't even in the movie, bro like just stop and 387 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 7: then my dad is like, oh, me and Jason Because 388 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 7: my dad and Jason never really had any friction. They 389 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 7: may have had conversations and stuff like that, but never 390 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 7: any friction. But I feel like, you know, Hollywood had 391 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 7: to kind of spend it a little bit and so 392 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 7: the conversation that they had, they just probably made it 393 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 7: to where it looked like that. But my dad did 394 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 7: pull up to wherever he's at loud music all the time. 395 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 7: My dad nickname is Bobo, but he is like hardbody. 396 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 7: He's a hardbody and he's old school. And my dad 397 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 7: is one of my biggest protectors, you know. But he 398 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 7: didn't like that in the movie and show him and 399 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 7: Jason beef and he like it. 400 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: I never bet with Jason. Never. 401 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: Me and Jason always been cool and they have what 402 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: do you how do you think that people in Flint 403 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: will we'll look at this because I you know, Flint 404 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: is sort of like a character and they showed the 405 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 2: city some of the things is gone through because you know, 406 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: it wasn't lost on me, especially when they showed picture 407 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: of the water plants. So and we know about everything 408 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: that's happened there with that. But how do you think 409 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 2: people in Flint will look at this? 410 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 7: I was at the Flynn premiere over four hundred people 411 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 7: as they watched the movie in two different and two 412 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 7: different venues, and I can tell you Flint was so excited. 413 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 7: They're so happy about this. They're so happy about this. 414 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 7: It showed the streets, you know, Ryan Destiny running on 415 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 7: the streets Baltimore, North Saginaw, her being at Northwestern High School. 416 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: It shows all this stuff, and. 417 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 7: People from Flint are like, oh my god, they probably 418 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 7: still live on that street, or they right right down 419 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 7: that street. They seen me running down that street. Now 420 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 7: to see Ryan Yam, it gets everybody in the city hope, 421 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 7: like wow, if she went through all that and still 422 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 7: made it the then what's my. 423 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: Ryan? 424 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 2: I thought, you know, just in a little that I've 425 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 2: been around you, like she really had your mannerisms, like down, 426 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 2: how much time did you all spend together? 427 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: I think Ryan is great at what she do because. 428 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 7: We FaceTime two or three times, we always text always, 429 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 7: you know, kept in touch. But I never was on set, 430 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 7: not one time. I was never on set. So Ryan 431 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 7: did all of that. You have to give her kudos 432 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 7: for that. Even when I seen it. I said, this 433 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 7: is but she's an actress and this is her breakout role. 434 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 7: And I mean even her boxing was so phenomenal to 435 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 7: me now. But I also told her, I said, girl, 436 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 7: don't you mess up on that part. And I even 437 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 7: told I told Rachel, Hey, if you guys need me 438 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 7: to come in be the stunt man, let me know. 439 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: But this is boxing. We're gonna get it right. This 440 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: is not rocky, this this is real and the greatest 441 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: one of all time. You got to get these boxing right. 442 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 7: I don't know about the acting part, y'all can figure 443 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 7: that part out, but the boxing part, y'all need me 444 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 7: let me know. And they never had to need me 445 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 7: because Rob tell you a great job training rind this. 446 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: You know, once people who obviously don't understand the Hollywood process, 447 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 2: but like once you give them your life, essentially you're 448 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: kind of out of the process a little bit. Was 449 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: it hard for you to kind of turn over creative 450 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: control and give someone license to near license to shape 451 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: their shape their life in the way that they saw it. Yeah, 452 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, no. 453 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 7: No, no, no, I am very you were very involved, 454 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 7: very strict about how I'm portrayed, especially to the world 455 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 7: and how that's why I took over my own brand 456 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 7: and when people start seeing who I was, because the 457 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 7: people I hadn't tricked, my brand had me as some 458 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 7: beasts and even my fans were scared of me, and 459 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 7: it was like I didn't like that. So with the 460 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 7: movie coming out, me and Barry sat and talked. Me 461 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 7: and Barry Jenkins sat and talked who wrote who wrote 462 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 7: the movie? Me and him talked for four or five hours. 463 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 7: When I met him, I asked him what was his 464 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 7: perception of what my story was and he told me 465 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 7: and I said, well, okay, I got you, and I said, 466 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 7: it's a few things that you missed out. 467 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: I said, this is my life. 468 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 7: And then I said, let's we got to put our 469 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 7: minds together to make this right. 470 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: And then he was like, well, how do you feel 471 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:25,719 Speaker 1: about this? 472 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 7: How do you feel about He asked his questions and 473 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 7: I answered everything truthfully and then he was like, do 474 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 7: you want to include that? 475 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: Absolutely? I want the truth in the movie. 476 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 7: And before the script even was able they were able 477 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 7: to start shooting, he sent me the script and said 478 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 7: I'm waiting on you to read it, and when you 479 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 7: get back to me and let me know what you think, 480 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 7: then then we'll start. So he sent me the script 481 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 7: a few things. I was one or two things. I 482 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 7: was like, I take it out. 483 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: And he respectful of it. He took and he took 484 00:23:58,800 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: it out. 485 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 7: And from there, when they started doing the casting, like 486 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 7: Rachel will reach out to me all the time, Hey, 487 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 7: we're doing the casting. 488 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: Thousands of girls showed up. 489 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 7: I even told a girl name who's an actress night 490 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 7: a nice feast of Williams. 491 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: I said. 492 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 7: I was like, go because I thought she could play 493 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 7: me right. And when she said let me know that 494 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 7: Ryan Destiny got the part, I said, okay, cool. Met 495 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 7: Ryan Destiny over the phone, like we talked and she 496 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 7: let me know. I'm like, I'm like, I'm training very hard, 497 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 7: but I was. I wasn't involved as much as I 498 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 7: needed to be involved, you know. And even before they 499 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 7: started showing up the premieres and everything, I seen the 500 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 7: movie first. 501 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: It was just me, I believe my publicist. 502 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 7: It was here in LA I seen it, and I 503 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 7: am one hundred percent for sure, even though that the 504 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 7: contract was signed, if I did not like the movie, 505 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 7: if I didn't like I was portrayed, I'm one hundred 506 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 7: percent sure that everyone would have went back and did 507 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 7: things better, differently, fixed whatever. I am one hundred percent 508 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 7: sure of that. So I think working with them was 509 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 7: very simple and easy. And they also knew that if 510 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 7: I didn't like it, I'll be outspoken about it, you know, 511 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 7: but not in a bad way, but just you would 512 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 7: have told them, yeah, yeah, like this. 513 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: Ain't it which I do this world. 514 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 7: But I literally love how the truth is in there 515 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 7: and how I was portrayed, because that's the truth. 516 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: There's a lot of success just in the fact of 517 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: getting a movie made. But do you have in your mind, 518 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: like what success looks like in terms of how this 519 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: is received, how many people see it, how much money 520 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: it makes. It's like, what part of that? How will 521 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 2: you judge and determine that about whether or not this 522 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 2: movie you consider it to be a success. 523 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 7: It's already a success, you know, just the fact that 524 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 7: I have a movie about my life at the age 525 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 7: of twenty nine and I gotta fighting too much. I'm 526 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 7: still ranked number one woman fighter in the world right now, 527 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 7: So that's already a win in itself. 528 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: It's the win from Ryan Destiny. 529 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 7: She's getting so many awards, so many nominations. 530 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: I believe that the world is going to take to 531 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: this movie. Now. 532 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 7: Of course you want to see the box office numbers 533 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 7: and you want to see all this stuff, of course, 534 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 7: but I'm not gonna let that be toured. How great 535 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 7: this is for me. I mean, what other boxs have 536 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 7: a biopic about their life? I tell you, maham Ali, right, 537 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 7: can you think of another one off the top of 538 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 7: my head? 539 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: George Foreman, George Foreman, you're right, yeah, I did see 540 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: that movie. Yeah, And I'm trying to think who else? Well, 541 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 2: I mean not a feature film. I mean what they 542 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 2: did a series on Mike Tyson, right, I think that's 543 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: probably what I can think of now. 544 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: But obviously you're the first. 545 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 4: Woman at the You're the first like this is big. 546 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: This is big to me, and it is well deserved. 547 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,959 Speaker 7: And to be a believer in Christ and have your 548 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 7: movie come out on Christmas Day, I get to share 549 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,239 Speaker 7: my day with the most powerful man in person in 550 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 7: the world. 551 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: That it was going to be Christmas or it just no. 552 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: They had told me August. The day changed so many times. 553 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 7: First it was August, which I was happy about because 554 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 7: I was fighting in July. And then they came back 555 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 7: and said, oh, it's December, and I'm like, what are 556 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 7: you guys doing? And then they're like, oh, it's Christmas Day? 557 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 7: And I was like in my mind, and actually I 558 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 7: text Rachel I said. 559 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: Who the hell go to the movies on Christmas Day? 560 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 7: And she wrote back and said, correct, everybody, A lot 561 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 7: of people. But this is how how much I'm out 562 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 7: the loop, Like this show how much I just train 563 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 7: and work out and you know, travel. 564 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: I'm not thinking of those type of things. But I 565 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: believe the color purple came out Christmas Day. Now that 566 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: everything is like dawning on me, I'm like, this is 567 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: really big. 568 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 2: Your fight February second, Danielle Perkins, it hasn't been a challenge. 569 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 2: You're promoting this movie, you have so much going on. 570 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: Has it been a challenge in terms of preparing. 571 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: For that, Well, it's just got to announce. 572 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 7: So I've been in the gym the past two months 573 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 7: already trained and working out, but it has It is 574 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 7: a challenge when you're traveling back and forth and you're 575 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 7: going all these different places and then you land where 576 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 7: you're where you can train, but your body is like 577 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 7: you having jet leg and dehydrated because you have drinking 578 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 7: of water, all this stuff, so it it holds its challenges, 579 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 7: but I'm happy that you know, this is something of 580 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 7: the last bit we gotta do, and I don't let 581 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 7: them know, like, look, your girl needs eight weeks to train, 582 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 7: because who wants to have a movie come out of 583 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 7: our life and then lose after kind of embarrassing that 584 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 7: probably wouldn't be It's not even just lose, it's more 585 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 7: just like I have I have, I'm gonna have millions 586 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 7: of more new followers and fans. 587 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: I gotta over I gotta overwin. 588 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 7: Now it's like, yeah, you can win, but you gotta 589 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 7: like really good, you know, especially with all the hate 590 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 7: right now, I got to show these folks. 591 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: So what uh, you know, looking at the evolution of 592 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: the competition that you've had to face about your career 593 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: as a professional, just talking about that part of it, 594 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: how have you seen the competition evolved? Do you feel 595 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: like women's boxing is in a stronger place because of you? 596 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 7: Absolutely, women's boxing is a very stronger place because I 597 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 7: think that you know, me speaking about equality, me being 598 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 7: on these brands, me being main event on Showtime, ESPN, HBO, 599 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 7: The Zone, me having talked with these execs, is changing 600 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 7: women's boxing. 601 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: I have real talks with them. 602 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 7: I'm not a person who's going to come in the 603 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 7: room and scream and yell and tell you to do 604 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 7: what I say. I come with the facts. Hey, you guys, 605 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 7: we got the next fight coming up. Last fight, you 606 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 7: guys gave me trouble about how many viewerships we got, 607 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 7: even though I got more viewership than everybody else. 608 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: You guys said I should have got more viewership. 609 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 7: Well, I believe I could have got more viewership if 610 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 7: you guys promoted my fight. 611 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: Twelve weeks instead of four weeks. 612 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 7: You guys promote the men fight twelve weeks And then 613 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 7: they asked me, how do you know that? 614 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: Well have proof, I'll screenshot it. 615 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 7: You guys started promoting Adrian brownin fight this date in 616 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 7: his fight date was that date. You started promoting my 617 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 7: fight this date, and my fight was four weeks later. 618 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 7: So you can't say I'm supposed to get more viewership 619 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 7: when I don't get the same amount of promotion. 620 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: But that's a conversation you got have for them. It's 621 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: not that they're. 622 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 7: Sexist, it's just they're doing what they're used to doing. 623 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 7: Women don't women just want the money. We want to 624 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 7: be paid equal. 625 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: That's it. Pay us equal, pay us equal. 626 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 7: And it was just like they're not realizing they're not 627 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 7: paying us equal because of this, or they got all 628 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 7: these different reasons why, but you just let them know. 629 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: You guys are you guys are making this reason. You 630 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: guys are doing this. 631 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 7: So you have to fix your part and do the 632 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 7: same that you do for us for them, and then 633 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 7: we can talk about the numbers. Now, if you promote 634 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 7: my fight twelve weeks like you do the men, and 635 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 7: then I still get half the numbers that they get, 636 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 7: then we know, all right, it's not that we got 637 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 7: to fix something else. 638 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: But that's not it. 639 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 7: Because I've getten more numbers than the men, and we 640 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 7: promote my fight six weeks, eight weeks, and I get 641 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 7: I get a lot of viewership. 642 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: I asked you about the competition just because I know, 643 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: you know, looking at boxing history, is that every great 644 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: boxer needed a foe, you know. 645 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: Almost Yeah, I've had a few of them, that you've 646 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: had a few. 647 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: But I mean, let's be honest, is that like you 648 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: have destroyed a lot of your your competition, all of them, 649 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 2: which speaks to your individual greatness. 650 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: Have you felt like you know that. 651 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: You need a a George Foreman or you know, a 652 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: Joe Fraser, Like have you felt like, hey, I would 653 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: you have liked to experience having like a real like 654 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: a rival rival like some of these other boxing legends. 655 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 7: I've had rivals, you know, Hannah Gabriel's being one. The 656 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 7: girl knocked me down in the first round. I remember that, right, crazy, 657 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 7: even though I won that fight, you natally, I mean, 658 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 7: Savetta Marsha will Be and the amateurs. 659 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: Me and her had a rough, ruggy fight. I won unanimously, 660 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: but it was rough and rugged. She was tough. 661 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 7: Christina Herrin being my first girl I ever really had 662 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 7: a grudge match with and who I thought we would 663 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 7: have plenty more time, but hey, I destroyed her so 664 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 7: bad at the first fight. She didn't want to she 665 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 7: didn't want to rematch me. None of these girls want 666 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 7: to rematch me after I beat them. So those were 667 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 7: my George Foreman fights and it so yeah, like I mean, 668 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 7: it's to be as skilled and as great as I am. 669 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 7: It's like a blessing and a curse at the same time. 670 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 7: But I take it for more of a blessing because listen, 671 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 7: if a girl can get in the ring with me 672 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 7: and she can't stand total toe with me ten rounds straight, 673 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 7: go to war with me, have good defense, offense, not 674 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 7: back down, and I would give her props. I'll give 675 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 7: her props, but I'm never gonna make a fight like 676 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,479 Speaker 7: that on purpose. She got to come in there with 677 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 7: the smoke, and if she ain't got the smoke, it's 678 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 7: not my job to go on there and take easy 679 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 7: on her. 680 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: If it's too hot in the kitchen, get out. I'm sure. 681 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: Obviously, like a lot of people, you watch the Jake 682 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: Paul Mike Tyson fight, and you know, as it stands now, 683 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: a lot of people have credited Amanda's soroano and Katie 684 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: Taylor is having the most watched women's sporting event of 685 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: all time because it's seventy. 686 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: Four million viewers. 687 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 2: You seem to you seem to have to take an 688 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: issue with that characterization that they're the most watched. 689 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: Is that the truth or a life? 690 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 4: That's why I asked, like, well, I was going to 691 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 4: ask you. 692 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 7: I'm gonna ask you. Was it a sporting women's event? 693 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 7: It was not, so they were on a larger star. 694 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: Yep. 695 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 7: As you know, all right, so so so, so just 696 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 7: just bear with me. Beginning of your sentence said it 697 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 7: was the most watched women's sporting event with seventy four 698 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 7: mini right right, And then I asked you was it 699 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 7: a sporting women's event? 700 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: You said no, it was not, So how does that 701 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: go hand to hand? It don't. 702 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 7: And that's not a knock to them. It's not a knock. 703 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 7: It's a win for women's boxing. But when I was 704 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 7: the head of the bill, I was the head. I 705 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 7: got four million views two k two million in the UK, 706 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 7: two million in the US abroad four million people over 707 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 7: four million people watch the fight. We're the head of 708 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 7: the bill. That's what you were promoting with. That's what 709 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 7: you're going with. That's not the same here now. And 710 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 7: did fifty many people tune in to gather around and 711 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 7: make sure that they were in their seats and ready 712 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 7: to watch when Mike Tyson came out? Because who doesn't 713 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 7: want to see Mike Tyson fight? Absolutely, But that doesn't 714 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 7: mean that the girls are not worth the views. I'm 715 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 7: not saying that. I'm saying had they been the top 716 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,479 Speaker 7: of the bill without Jake Parler, Mike, without Jake Paula 717 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 7: Mike typing where they have got that viewership and there 718 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 7: in their first fight they got one million point five 719 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 7: And that's the issue I had with old Cameron. He 720 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 7: says he's reading off QR cars and I don't know 721 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 7: much about boxing women's boxing, but you get on a QO, 722 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 7: you're reading a car. Oh a man of Sano and 723 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 7: K Taylor has the most watched women's boxing event in 724 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 7: history with one point five million, And it's an article 725 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 7: that shows you that I had two million viewers who 726 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 7: watched the fight alone in just the UK. So that's 727 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 7: my thing. It's not to take a knock from them. 728 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 7: It just they do things trying to make it seem 729 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 7: like what I did. They they're trying to make make 730 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 7: records that you guys are not breaking a record if 731 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 7: you're not doing it the same way, it's not the 732 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 7: same thing. They do have the most women's watched boxing 733 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 7: mat in history as the co main event. I have 734 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 7: the most watched women's boxing match as a standalone women's box. 735 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 2: But you said you considered this to be even though 736 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 2: they were a part of a larger event or you know, 737 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 2: within one, you consider it to be a win. 738 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a win. I feel like the girl stole 739 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: the show. I agree. 740 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 7: I mean with the with the head, but the cut, 741 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 7: the punches, the counterpunching, Amanda with those strong hands. 742 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: Listen, I watched the fight. I was glued into it. 743 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 2: Did you think the outcome was right? Did you think 744 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 2: that was the right decision? 745 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 7: I did, Okay, I thought Katie edged it with her 746 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 7: skill on her counterpunching when I watched it they're in person. 747 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 7: But then when I went home and watched it, I said, 748 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 7: this could have been a draw. But those girls are 749 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 7: like kryptonite to each other, like their styles just don't mix, 750 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 7: Like they just are always gonna give each other trouble. 751 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 2: Indeed in a way, so they haven't. Really, it's gonna 752 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 2: be another decision. You thought that was a win for 753 00:36:59,040 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 2: women's boxing. 754 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: Did you you think? Yeah? 755 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 2: The Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight was a win for 756 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 2: boxing for men. 757 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 7: Asking the question, you know, Listen, I'm glad Mike Tyson 758 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 7: did whatever he wanted to do. 759 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad he went in there. I'm glad he fought. 760 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 7: I'm glad I got to see him walk to the 761 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 7: ring with my own eyes and see him inside the ring. 762 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 7: And boxing was to dream of mind, you know, to 763 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 7: just see that. Of course I would love to see 764 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 7: him knock Jake Paul out, absolutely, but I. 765 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 4: Know you two have history. Yes, yeah, but it's just like, what. 766 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 7: Did it do for boxing? And didn't do anything? But 767 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 7: I'm happy for Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. I just 768 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 7: I just didn't it didn't do anything for boxing. I mean, 769 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 7: you want to say, all we got viewership, but it's Netflix. 770 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 7: Who doesn't have Netflix. It's eight ninety nine a month. 771 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 7: Everybody watched Netflix and it didn't charge nobody to watch it, So. 772 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: Ingrass to them. Man, it's beautiful. 773 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a larger question to be asked there 774 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 2: about the sport. But before I ask you that one, 775 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 2: we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right 776 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 2: back with more from the quote the greatest woman of 777 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 2: all time back in a moment. A lot of I 778 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 2: asked you that about the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight 779 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 2: because there's mixed opinions along boxing fans. Some people think 780 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 2: that it's great for the sport they look at the viewership, 781 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: but a lot of boxing purists, they are a little 782 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 2: disheartened that this is the kind of fight that has 783 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 2: now become considered a premier fight. So do you still 784 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 2: think that boxing men's boxing? Would you consider it in 785 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 2: a healthy place if this is the kind of fight 786 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 2: that becomes considered a marquee event. 787 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 7: Jake Paul is great at marketing, great at building his brand, 788 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 7: and that's something that you know, I give him credit 789 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 7: for me saying that he came from YouTube and just 790 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 7: came to boxing and started making millions off the bat 791 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 7: and I gotta work this hard and I got real 792 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 7: accomplishments that let me know that I need to build 793 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 7: my brand. So I do, you know, give credit to 794 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 7: Jake Paul for that. Build my brand on YouTube, build 795 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 7: my brand on Instagram, beild my brand on Facebook, everywhere. 796 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: Just build my. 797 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 7: Brand because your brand will last you longer once you're 798 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 7: done with the sport anyway, And if you don't have 799 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 7: a brand, it's like everything you did kind of disappears anyway, 800 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 7: because there's always a new up and coming fighter or 801 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 7: up and coming champion, you know, and people. So I 802 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 7: think that's where he's winning at, you know, and I 803 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 7: think everybody keep looking at because boxing is such a 804 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 7: real sport. It's a real fight in there, and they're 805 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 7: trying to say that his fights aren't real. I mean, 806 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 7: Jake Paul has a loss on his record. He lost 807 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 7: Tommy Fiery, So he had a real boxing match. That's 808 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 7: the real, the real one I thought that he had 809 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 7: and he lost. But you don't hear him talking about that. 810 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 7: They just try to, Oh, we thought he won't but 811 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 7: but he lost and he's trying to become a better boxer. 812 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 1: But boxing is such a real sport. 813 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 7: I think that these guys are overlooking that they're overlooking 814 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 7: that you have to build your brand outside the ring. 815 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 7: It's not just about fighting anymore. We're not in that. 816 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 7: We're not in that place an era of where social 817 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 7: media don't matter like we are. I grew up in 818 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 7: a social media era where it's like you use this 819 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 7: up to your benefit. People still kind of oh, we 820 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 7: don't really play the internet games, we don't do social media. 821 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 7: Oh you know, having viewership and people watching your social 822 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 7: media followers don't mean nothing. And I'm sorry to tell you, 823 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 7: but it does mean something. How you looked at on 824 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 7: social media, who follows you, how many followers you got, 825 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 7: it matters, sadly, no matter how great you are mad, 826 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 7: So that's what is winning for him. 827 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: Now, men's boxing, where is it at? 828 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 7: They need to understand that you guys are getting paid millions, 829 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 7: but people don't know you. 830 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 1: Guys name that. 831 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 7: They don't know what you do, what you stand for, 832 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 7: what your life is about, who you are. 833 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: They don't know. 834 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 7: So once you're done boxing and all those ten million, 835 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 7: five million, two million payday stop coming in and even 836 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 7: spend all your money. That's why you don't see a 837 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 7: lot of boxes with endorsements and sponsorships because they don't 838 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 7: build the brands. I'm going to be one of the 839 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 7: first boxes that you see that have deals and stuff 840 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 7: like Sarrenda Williams go, It's going to happen because I'm 841 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 7: putting in the work and I'm building my brain. 842 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: Is that in a way. 843 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to say, because you mentioned like you know, hey, 844 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 2: this is just kind of what it is, but you're it. 845 00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 2: Does it sometimes frustrate you that your accomplishments in some 846 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 2: circles or in some regards when we talk about marketing 847 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 2: and getting the deals and all that isn't enough. You know, 848 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 2: like you talked about how you have to market yourself, 849 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 2: promote yourself, build your brand, Like that sounds like a 850 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 2: lot of work, you know what I mean. 851 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: It absolutely is. 852 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 7: And I have a great team who I work with now, 853 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 7: you know, PR team, styling team, a hair makeup. I 854 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 7: have a great team that I work with now. But 855 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 7: I just said that to say, yeah, it's frustrating, but 856 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 7: it's also it's the part. 857 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: It's a part of it. You know. Serena Williams. 858 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 7: When I look at her, you know, she played with 859 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 7: the beads for a long time, she represented for the culture. 860 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,720 Speaker 7: But then you know, people start saying like, oh, she's 861 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 7: she's strong, she's built like a man, and you never 862 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 7: really seen her respond. You always just seen her kind 863 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 7: of put her time into her work. And when she 864 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 7: put her time into her work, that's when you've see 865 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 7: that all these endorsements and sponsors and everything like she 866 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 7: didn't pay that stuff no mind. I think the more 867 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 7: you focus on yourself and your career and what you 868 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 7: want to do and you keep the outside of the 869 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 7: noise out, that's when you start to really elevate. 870 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm doing right now, is it? 871 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 4: You know, as you have won more and more and 872 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 4: more and. 873 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: Sitting at the top of the sport. 874 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 2: How do you handle that pressure because people are looking 875 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 2: for you to lose. You know, you have some challenger 876 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,439 Speaker 2: you don't even know right now is at home thinking 877 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 2: about like trying to knock you out. 878 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:26,959 Speaker 1: So how do you. 879 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 4: Handle dealing with like you're carrying a sport? 880 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 7: I train that's it when you self made, you know 881 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 7: what I'm saying, and you get to where you got 882 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 7: to because of you being you, you doing you how 883 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 7: you do you, and you know how you got to 884 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 7: where you are, no handouts, nobody giving you nothing. It's 885 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 7: like I know how stat the top, I know what 886 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 7: to do, I know what matters. So it's like people, 887 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 7: of course, everybody always want the winners to lose. People 888 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 7: love controversy like they love drama. They love a comeback story. 889 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,720 Speaker 1: But for me, it's like I just believe in winning. 890 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: And how do you win? You train, you have discipline, 891 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: you focus, and you just you just do it. So 892 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,439 Speaker 1: I don't really hate come with the game. 893 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 7: You know, And I've always known as a young girl, 894 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 7: and my coaches tell me all the time women have 895 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 7: to work ten times harder than me. He always told 896 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,280 Speaker 7: me that. So now that I'm a fifteen time world champion. 897 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 7: I'm like, yeah, no, I'm gonna start getting some endorsement, sponsorsitions, SOUF. 898 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: All right, cool for you? 899 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 4: What motivates you now to keep going? 900 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 2: I mean, you're it's hard to believe your twenty nins, 901 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 2: you know, because it feels like you've been on the 902 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 2: scene for so long. But what what would you say 903 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 2: is your motivation now? 904 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,879 Speaker 7: My motivation for me is that I haven't gotten through 905 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 7: where I want to get to yet. And it's not 906 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 7: I mean, in boxing, I can retire right now. I'm 907 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 7: going down the Hall of Fame, you know, but and 908 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 7: be regarded as one of the greatest women boxers to 909 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 7: ever live. I get that, But it's like I want 910 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 7: I still girls, I want to fight. 911 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: I got records, I want to break. 912 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 7: I got a vision of myself that's so big, and 913 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 7: it's like, that's what motivates me. It's like, I have 914 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 7: to get there to feel that satisfaction for me, not 915 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 7: nobody else. 916 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: For me. I got to get there. 917 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 2: Have you thought about or how much have you thought 918 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 2: about how much longer you want to do this? 919 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: Because boxing is you. 920 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 2: Know, it's one of those sports that it has a 921 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 2: certain shelf life because of the physicality. So how much 922 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 2: longer do you or how much thought have you given 923 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 2: to how long you want your career to be. 924 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 7: I've been boxing eighteen years now, you know, and I 925 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 7: think I'm going to retire when I'm boxing at twenty six, 926 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 7: so I have eight more years in boxing. So those 927 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,439 Speaker 7: who thought they wanted me to go on ahead eight years 928 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 7: thirty eight, I'm going to retire. 929 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: Really And why did that number? Why? 930 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 7: I don't know, because I think if I don't retire 931 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 7: at thirty eight, I'm going to be boxing on fifty. 932 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 7: So it's just like, but you know what the also too, 933 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 7: I'm saying thirty eight. But if I'm still in great 934 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 7: shape and I can whoop these girls at forty and fifty, 935 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 7: you would do it? 936 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 5: What? 937 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: Why not? But Hopkins did it? You know? 938 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 7: So he was boxing at fifty. I think he was 939 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 7: boxing at fifty. So for me, I'm just like, but 940 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 7: that's the age, you know. I feel like twenty six 941 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 7: years boxing, I think I'll be Okay, I've done enough fighting. 942 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 7: I don't have you know what, I'm going to retire 943 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,879 Speaker 7: when when that bone in me when it like comes 944 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 7: to a fight, when like the fire don't light up 945 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 7: that's when I retire. And I'm thinking that age to 946 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 7: be thirty eight. It's not gonna be before then. But 947 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 7: it's like, if somebody challenges me, and I don't get like, oh. 948 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: You're challenging me. You think you can beat me, You 949 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: want to fight. 950 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 7: Me, and and I don't get that hunger to go 951 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,280 Speaker 7: train and work and then I'll retire. 952 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: But till then, I'm just gonna keep beating these girls up. 953 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: Dare I say, I guess if the fire inside it's 954 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: not that the fire inside is not there, then on 955 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: fire side, yeah, then you're like, I won't box now? 956 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 2: Do you you're the first woman in boxing to get 957 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 2: a seven figure pay for a fight. When you think 958 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 2: about your legacy, do you think what you have? You know, 959 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 2: individually you've been able to accomplish all these things financially 960 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 2: in the sport, But do you think the success, the 961 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 2: financial success that you've established that women's boxers can have, 962 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 2: you think that's sustainable? Like, do you think that if 963 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 2: there's another woman that comes along who you know is 964 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 2: able to accomplish some of the same things that you did, 965 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 2: that she's going to get a payday that is as 966 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 2: big or bigger than yours. You know what I mean 967 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 2: that you've laid the foundation. Yes, I am creating a 968 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 2: full blueprint. 969 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 7: I'm a promoter, so I got t Rex promotion, so 970 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 7: I actually promote a woman fighter, and I'm giving her 971 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 7: audi jewels and stuff that I know so she can. 972 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: Get her big paydays too. 973 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 7: It's a blueprint now on how you make a million 974 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 7: dollars even if you don't have the gold medals. And 975 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 7: that's shown with Katie Hiller and Amni Torano. You know 976 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,720 Speaker 7: that they made a million and I've made a million, 977 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 7: And I'm trying to think, is there any other woman 978 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 7: that made a million in box? 979 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: I think it's just us for right now. But I 980 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: am letting them know. It is a blueprint, and I 981 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 1: always the biggest blueprint is built your brand. In terms 982 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: of pay equity. 983 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 2: Another thing that you fought for is when it came 984 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 2: to the Olympics. You know, for a female boxer to 985 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,399 Speaker 2: get paid the same as they do for mailboxes when 986 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 2: they're training and everything for the Olympics. And I looked 987 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 2: it up and I saw that I think it was 988 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, Congress actually passed a law that 989 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 2: said that American athletes who are representing Team USA in 990 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 2: international competitions, you have to pay them the same, regardless 991 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 2: of gender. And it feels like that was a fight 992 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 2: that you fought and you won. So when you think 993 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,720 Speaker 2: about out the legacy that you have left as someone 994 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,359 Speaker 2: who fought those kind of battles, you know, how does 995 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 2: that make you feel about your purpose? 996 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 7: You know, I alway wanted to stand for something bigger 997 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 7: than myself. And that's why, you know, I told Tim Usa, listen, 998 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 7: if you guys don't pay us like you paid the men, 999 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 7: I won't even go back to the twenty sixteen Olympics 1000 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,760 Speaker 7: and I'm the reigning Olympic champion, and they're like, okay, 1001 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 7: you got it. And the women were getting paid the 1002 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 7: same as the men. You know, I was getting paid 1003 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,280 Speaker 7: five thousand a month actually leading up to the Olympics. 1004 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't three. It's say three in the. 1005 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 7: Movie, but it was actually five because I was returning 1006 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 7: Olympic go milest So I was getting paid more than 1007 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 7: the men actually, But I think that that's where the 1008 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 7: fight started at. But I didn't know that things were 1009 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,760 Speaker 7: so unequal like that because all I did was focus 1010 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 7: on boxing. You know, it wasn't until I had conversation 1011 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 7: with the men, like how much y'all get paid them on? 1012 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 7: You know, people don't have this conversations because they say, oh, 1013 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,839 Speaker 7: you know, some people can't talk. They contracts and checks 1014 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 7: or whatever the case may be. But I was just like, 1015 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,320 Speaker 7: you know, I was curious how much how much I 1016 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 7: make a month? And they'd tell me. I'm like, really, hum, 1017 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 7: that's interesting. And I mean, I just didn't grow up 1018 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 7: around that type of stuff. Like when I was at 1019 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 7: the gym with all the guys. Coach didn't make me 1020 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,959 Speaker 7: run less, I didn't punch the bag less, I didn't 1021 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 7: spar less, I did everything like the guy. So I 1022 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 7: didn't think that these differences between men and women even 1023 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,919 Speaker 7: existed until I got a little older. I'm like, oh, 1024 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 7: this is what these girls were talking about. Oh okay, 1025 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 7: So now that I know about it, I joined the 1026 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 7: fight for it now. When I turned pro my first 1027 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 7: you know, I reached out to uh, Laila Ali and 1028 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 7: a Wolf and. 1029 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,360 Speaker 1: I asked and Wolf how much was her highest payday 1030 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: in boxing? 1031 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 7: Told me fifty K. I said, but you're a real champ, 1032 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 7: you only fifty fifty K? I asked that Laila alien. 1033 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 7: This is word the word this is on my grandmother. 1034 00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 1: You know. 1035 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 7: I asked her how much would how much did you 1036 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 7: get paid for your highest payday? She told me six 1037 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 7: hundred thousand, and I said, in my mind, I said, okay, 1038 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,280 Speaker 7: so it's possible. In my mind, I said, it's possible 1039 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 7: for me to make a high of six hundred K. 1040 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 1: That's what I thought to myself. 1041 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 7: So to be able to make a million, I was like, wow, 1042 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 7: you know, how did we get here? But that's how 1043 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 7: I know that when women's boxing had changed. But my 1044 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 7: first payday in boxing, my first professional fight, I got 1045 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 7: paid fifty K. That's when I knew. I said, see, 1046 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 7: times is changing, stuff is changing. And I didn't know 1047 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 7: how or where. I knew it had a lot to 1048 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,760 Speaker 7: do with me and my Olympic gold medals. But I said, 1049 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 7: I got to keep building off of this. So every 1050 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 7: time when I thought, I let him know, hey, I 1051 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 7: got to go up twenty five thousand, fifty thousand on 1052 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 7: a K. When I became undisputed, I told them to 1053 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 7: double my check and they were like, oh, Curris, no 1054 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 7: woman's ever made three hundred and fifty k in boxing. 1055 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 7: When I said, you won't be seeing me in the 1056 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 7: ring unless you pay me it. I'm undisputed now. 1057 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 1: And it was a fight. 1058 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 7: You guys all thought I was gonna lose, and you 1059 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 7: put me in here with this girl that was twenty one, 1060 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 7: you know, with ten knockouts and I had seven fights. 1061 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: Mhm. 1062 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 7: Y'all paid me one hundred and fifty for the fight, 1063 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 7: or I think it was one seventy five. I said, 1064 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 7: my next fight better be three fifty or I'm not fighting. 1065 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 7: To my promoter that I told show Time that and 1066 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 7: they were like, Claris said, nobody, No woman's made that 1067 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 7: kind of money. 1068 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,879 Speaker 1: I said, m hmm okay. And I sat at home 1069 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 1: for about a month and I was like, no phone 1070 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,799 Speaker 1: call Yoka, all right, cool? Cool now. 1071 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 7: I always not my promoter car and said, hey Chris, 1072 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 7: we got it. Since you got what we got you 1073 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,439 Speaker 7: three fifty, okay, what's the day when we're when we're 1074 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,319 Speaker 7: fighting and its been a champions back. 1075 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, You've been able to win in so many different 1076 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,280 Speaker 2: weight classes and h to prefer our interview. 1077 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 4: I was reading this one story that I think they 1078 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 4: called it. 1079 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 2: They called your new class the Clarissa Wait, because it's 1080 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 2: like you established I can fight at whatever whatever I need. 1081 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, however I need to fight out. 1082 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,879 Speaker 4: Hey, do you have a weight you prefer to fight at? 1083 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 7: One sixty eight? One sixty? That's I feel the best 1084 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 7: at one sixty eight. I feel good at one sixty. 1085 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 7: I mean I feel deprived at one fifty four. But 1086 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 7: I went down there and I fought and I beat 1087 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 7: beat all the girls there. 1088 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 1: But sixty and sixty eights where I'm comfortable at. 1089 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 7: I mean, seventy five seventy five plus for heavyweight is 1090 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 7: cool too, But I just I find a way to 1091 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 7: be comfortable at whatever weight class that I'm at. You know, 1092 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 7: I do the diet and right, I be strategic. I 1093 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,320 Speaker 7: have a great nutritionist team try out to perfect the athletes. 1094 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 7: Like so, I think I feel good everywhere, but sixty 1095 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 7: eight is like naturally where I'm like, Okay, that's where I. 1096 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 2: Now that you've gotten a little taste of Hollywood. I 1097 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 2: mean you see that you know boxers, and I know 1098 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 2: you've flirted with uh with MMA before. A lot of 1099 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 2: athletes in your position make that turn into acting, make 1100 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 2: that turn into doing entertainment. 1101 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,320 Speaker 1: Is that something that you've considered? 1102 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 7: Now you know I've done some acting, Okay, so I 1103 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 7: don't believe in like, oh, you should wait to retire 1104 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 7: to do the acting. So I've done some acting now 1105 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,439 Speaker 7: and I actually I actually have a movie role coming 1106 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 7: up that I have to get ready for. I'm planning 1107 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,320 Speaker 7: a cop in a movie. So yeah, hopefully we you 1108 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 7: know that that's on a big platform. You guys be 1109 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 7: able to see it. If you don't sit on the platform, 1110 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,839 Speaker 7: you sit on my page for sure. So I'm playing 1111 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 7: a cop. Okay, it's other movie opportunities, but right now, 1112 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 7: I just I've been so busy promoting a movie and 1113 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,919 Speaker 7: now I just start promoting my next fight, and that's 1114 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 7: what I've been focused on. But I am I do 1115 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 7: want to be an actress. That's what I want to do, 1116 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 7: and I'm not gonna wait to after I'm done boxing 1117 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 7: to do it. I feel like I can still do 1118 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 7: some stuff now. And I want to be more motivational speaker. 1119 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 7: I want to model. You know, it's so many things 1120 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 7: that I want to do that I feel like I 1121 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 7: can do. I just have to find a time to 1122 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,320 Speaker 7: do it. But I definitely believe that. 1123 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 2: One of my favorite stories involving you is and you 1124 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 2: put this on your Instagram page it's when old girl, Uh, 1125 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 2: when the woman showed up at the gym. Oh god, like, listen, 1126 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 2: this this is where I am. If you want to smoke, 1127 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 2: come up here. And this this was somebody I guess 1128 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,279 Speaker 2: you sort of mentored a little bit right like that. 1129 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 2: It reached out to you and said, hey, you know 1130 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,880 Speaker 2: what I want to I want to be you. I 1131 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,239 Speaker 2: want to be a fighter for real in this game. 1132 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,319 Speaker 2: And you, you know, offered to be mentor them. But 1133 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 2: then things were left and somehow they thought that they 1134 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 2: could talk slick to you, and you let her know 1135 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,359 Speaker 2: what she could show up, and when she showed up, 1136 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,320 Speaker 2: I'm thinking she didn't realize that was probably the wrong decision. 1137 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what. 1138 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 2: Selfishly seeing how people how slick people talk on social 1139 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 2: media for those of us, you know, I mean, I 1140 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,240 Speaker 2: ain't got hands like that, but there are so many 1141 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 2: times that I wish I could put my hands on 1142 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 2: some of these people who talk slick across social media. 1143 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 1: So what't you tell people? Oh girl? You know, Mike 1144 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 1: Tyson said it best. 1145 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 7: Social media has made people like comfortable that they can 1146 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 7: say whatever they want without getting hitting the mouth for it. 1147 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 2: Correct, and they never had their ass whipping and they 1148 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 2: talked like it and they need it, Yeah, they. 1149 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 1: Do, you know. 1150 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 7: And I would say with that, I didn't tell her 1151 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 7: to come to the gym. I didn't invite her to 1152 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 7: come to the gym. I had my hundred thousand dollar 1153 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 7: challenge going on, Like if any girl she want to 1154 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:43,760 Speaker 7: come to the gym. 1155 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,720 Speaker 4: Yes, I was like, I thought it was part of something. 1156 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,360 Speaker 7: But she never reached out and said she wanted to 1157 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,759 Speaker 7: do a challenge. I just showed up to the gym 1158 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 7: to spar against these two grown men, professional fighters, to 1159 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 7: get ready for my championship fight July twenty seventh that 1160 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 7: I had. 1161 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,880 Speaker 1: And she trolled me so much. I got over a 1162 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:02,799 Speaker 1: million followers. 1163 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 7: But she told me so much that it was like 1164 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 7: I know this girl, like I know this girl face, now, 1165 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 7: I know her voice now, like he trold. 1166 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 1: Me so much. So as I'm walking into the gym 1167 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,400 Speaker 1: to start getting ready to spark against these men, I 1168 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 1: see her. So she just showed up an announced. 1169 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 2: I thought, you like, hey, if you got all that smoke, nah, 1170 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 2: this is where I'm gonna be. 1171 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 1: Ah. 1172 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 7: So I'm showing up to do what I do, and 1173 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 7: that's prepared for my World championship fight. That I have 1174 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 7: coming up in Detroit at Little Caesars in front nineteen 1175 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 7: thousand people. I gotta get ready and I walk in 1176 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,439 Speaker 7: the gym and my eyes I looked in the ring 1177 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 7: because I like to know who around. 1178 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 1: I looked in the ring. I said, oh, I know 1179 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 1: this bitch, and then I said, Clarissa s yeah. All 1180 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: of a sudden, I just I clicked out. I'm not 1181 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 1: gonna lie. I clicked out. I walked into the ring. 1182 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 7: She like, yeah, Chris, I told you when I when 1183 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 7: I see what was up, I said, what you here? 1184 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 1: F why at my gym? Fo? She said? 1185 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 7: She said, I'm here to get a couple of rounds 1186 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 7: spar with you. I said, I'm about to fuck you up. 1187 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 1: Well, I told her. I said I'm gonna fuck you 1188 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: up bad. And then she was. 1189 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 7: And then I was like, I got, I got, I 1190 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 7: got you for a run round. She was like, I 1191 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 7: didn't call off work to come get one round and 1192 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 7: said that's all. You're gonna last one round for you one. 1193 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 7: Then she got the argument, we ain't going two rounds. 1194 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 7: I'm about to leave, da da. I said, you think 1195 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 7: you about to leave when you disrespect me? 1196 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 1: And I tried to run up and here outside the ring. 1197 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: I was so mad. 1198 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 7: Then all of a sudden, my ex fiance grabbing me, 1199 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 7: my homegirl bedy grabbing me, my best friend nanny grabbed me. 1200 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 7: I'm like, y'all need to don't nobody touch me. 1201 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm, I'm I don't I done. 1202 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 7: Click thout because it's something about I don't disrespect nobody. 1203 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 7: I don't do that. Like I'm personally. If I dispect you, 1204 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 7: I want you to dispect me back, like I won't 1205 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 7: smoke if like, if I walk up to you, I'm 1206 00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 7: talking in trash. I expect you to talk trash back, 1207 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 7: and if you want to get active, we get acted. 1208 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 1: That's what I expect. That's why I don't do that. 1209 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't do that. 1210 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 7: But it was like the fact that she tried to 1211 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 7: make it seem like somebody scared of her. She did 1212 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 7: shed add and what I'm listen, I don't duck, no smoke, 1213 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 7: zero like I'm changing my brand of course, all that 1214 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 7: good stuff, but do not play with me. 1215 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm not one of them. Man. She got dressed. We 1216 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: went in the ring. 1217 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 7: I said, enough talking to you, because she got the 1218 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 7: cursing and your boyfriend this and your boyfriend that and 1219 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 7: I'm make you my beat. 1220 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 1: D da da. She was talking crazy. I said, okay, 1221 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 1: that's how I am. I don't like all this shut up. 1222 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 1: I want to fight. I don't put my hands on you. 1223 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 1: That's me. That's why with the social media, i'd be 1224 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 1: like kind of baked girls in like do you want 1225 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 1: to fight? Or now you want to scrap? Like what's up? 1226 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 7: So I don't do that. Do all that talking because 1227 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,680 Speaker 7: everybody can do it. Everybody can do the talking, but 1228 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 7: can you really back up what you say? I'm a 1229 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 7: backer upper. So she she got dressed, we got in 1230 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 7: the ring, We had a we had a red fern there. 1231 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,600 Speaker 2: Said like I said, it's got anybody watching right now, 1232 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 2: go see the video because it's on my YouTube, on 1233 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 2: your YouTube, and I can tell when you hit that girl. 1234 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,920 Speaker 1: The first time, I was like, oh no, this is 1235 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 1: going bad. 1236 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 7: All trying to knock her out. And then the thing is, 1237 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 7: I got so much class when it like when it 1238 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 7: comes to boxing that when she start covering up, I 1239 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,320 Speaker 7: stop hitting her. I stopped hearing her. I said, man, 1240 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 7: I've been ana kute this, I've been I've been Jills. 1241 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,479 Speaker 7: And then she oh her own her stomach, hold her head. 1242 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 1: I was like, look at it, stup bit. But you 1243 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 1: know what, sometime jamill just hear me out. Just him. 1244 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to make an example a lot of people. 1245 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 2: You are preaching to the choir, that let all the 1246 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 2: girls who was considering trying to get the honey k 1247 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 2: or who was considering trying to come to the gym 1248 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 2: to respect me, that let them know, oh she not 1249 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 2: she professional, but. 1250 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 1: She she's from the streets. She gonna kick our ass. 1251 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 1: We come down here. 1252 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,560 Speaker 4: Did anybody did anybody take you up on any k? 1253 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 1: Come on? Now? I think the first one I have 1254 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 1: to be the girl came off to the gym. 1255 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 2: Now you gotta that one hundred K. Was like, if 1256 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 2: they can beat you, if they can beat me, you god, 1257 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 2: oh my god, it ain't just show up. Yeah, because 1258 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 2: if that's the case, everybody, I was like, right now, 1259 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 2: I'll let you fire on me, right I was after 1260 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 2: that Timmy Hers episode. But I'll let you fire on 1261 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,960 Speaker 2: me right now. For as you just said, as we 1262 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 2: wrap up here. So, uh, I ask every guest that 1263 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 2: appears on politics here, uh what I call the messy question. 1264 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,880 Speaker 2: Now you mentioned you you don't dunckt the smoke, and 1265 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 2: anybody who follows you on social media says that you don't. 1266 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 1: Dust the smoke. 1267 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:05,479 Speaker 4: You get paid to fight. 1268 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,680 Speaker 2: So given the recent events, I am wondering, what would 1269 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 2: it take? How much money would it take for you 1270 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 2: to jump in the ring with bring me my. 1271 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 1: Just what it out? I mean, at this point the 1272 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,439 Speaker 1: girl leaked my number, she leads your number, Oh my god, 1273 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 1: what your actual telephone number? Yeah? Oh my god. 1274 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 7: So at this point you can give me a dollar 1275 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 7: and I'll put my hands a dollar. 1276 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 1: That's it. Don't have nothing to do with whatever else. 1277 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 7: It's just that part alone, that that part of that 1278 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 7: part theories where it's like, I'm a businesswoman, don't leak 1279 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 7: my number? 1280 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:47,560 Speaker 1: Why would you do that? 1281 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 7: You know you should have came to me like Shirley, 1282 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 7: Hello Barber. 1283 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 4: Charlotte, and you're too young to know about. 1284 01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 1: I guess I got an own soul or whatever. But 1285 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 1: it's about hello Barber. This is surely for real. But 1286 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 1: it's more of the more thing like but she's not 1287 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 1: no boxer. You know what I'm saying. If you know 1288 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 1: she hain't no boxer, So I don't want to have 1289 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 1: to put my hands on it do you? 1290 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 2: I have to say, like I I was so surprised 1291 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 2: when I saw you trending. 1292 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, did she be somebody else? 1293 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 2: Like I was like, oh my, were you surprised at 1294 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 2: everything that happened? Like all of a sudden, you're trending 1295 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 2: people trying to put your personal life out there. You know, 1296 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 2: how did you basically handle it? I mean I saw 1297 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 2: some of the comments that you made on social media, 1298 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 2: but like I mean, for you, that had to be 1299 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 2: a bit surprising because you're out there in the public. 1300 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 1: But you know, this is a much different way. Well 1301 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 1: one I have decided that moving forward that I would 1302 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 1: like my dat in life to be private. 1303 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. And there's plenty of reasons 1304 01:03:52,240 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 7: why I don't really care about outside perception of of myself. 1305 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. 1306 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,320 Speaker 7: I say, I wasn't surprised when I when I seen it, 1307 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:11,840 Speaker 7: I said, oh my god. But it's one of those 1308 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,280 Speaker 7: things where it's like, don't people have to spend there? 1309 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,480 Speaker 7: It is and it's like we all know that this 1310 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 7: woman had a boyfriend. We all know that, and this 1311 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 7: situation is so weird because it's like we falls on 1312 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,400 Speaker 7: the phone all the time, so just like to see this. 1313 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,880 Speaker 7: It's just like okay, but I don't know, I don't know. 1314 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 7: I thought it was I thought it was weird and 1315 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 7: it's strange, but black. I mean, drama sells, that's it. Drama, 1316 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 7: drama sales, and it's not. 1317 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't. I'm not in that beef. 1318 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,160 Speaker 7: You know, only my my smoke with her is is 1319 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:46,840 Speaker 7: posting my number. It don't got nothing to do with 1320 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 7: I don't got nothing to do with him. It was 1321 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 7: her posting my number. So people like, oh, she wants 1322 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:57,680 Speaker 7: to fight, fight her over a dude, whatever, stop it, 1323 01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 7: stop it. That is so beneath me. It is the 1324 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 7: direspect of the leak in my number part and that's it. 1325 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 7: Other than that, I don't got nothing else to do with. 1326 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:07,520 Speaker 7: None of the other stuff. 1327 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,880 Speaker 2: Well, the timing of it, I mean a lot of 1328 01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 2: people are going to see your movie anyway, the. 1329 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 7: Fires Christmas Day, the Fire Inside comes out in theaters. 1330 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 2: Now there's some other there might be another curious contingent 1331 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,520 Speaker 2: that comes to see to try to figure out, like, oh, 1332 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 2: I wonder what. 1333 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 1: Her backstory is. 1334 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,080 Speaker 2: But for all those who are watching it, watching it, 1335 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 2: listening like the movie really is good. I'm not just 1336 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 2: blowing smoke up in your ass like it's a good movie. 1337 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 1: It is a great movie. 1338 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 2: One more segment to go, and you guys know what 1339 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:43,160 Speaker 2: that means. I got questions to answer up next, your 1340 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:48,120 Speaker 2: viewer slash listener questions, and I have plenty of answers 1341 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:59,360 Speaker 2: coming up next on the final segment of Spotatives. And 1342 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 2: before I close out this episode of Politics, time for 1343 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,200 Speaker 2: this week's audience question, which comes from Frank Simmons out 1344 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 2: of Cypress, Texas. Frank asked, have you followed this gymnastics 1345 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,240 Speaker 2: and if so, what's your opinion of the team. Now, 1346 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 2: for those who may not be familiar, in twenty twenty three, 1347 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:18,280 Speaker 2: Fisk University became the first historically black college and university 1348 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 2: to establish a gymnastics team. But to answer the question, yes, 1349 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 2: I have followed this team because I heard about Morgan Price, 1350 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,440 Speaker 2: who earlier this year became the first athlete from an 1351 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,440 Speaker 2: HBCU team to win a national championship. Now coming out 1352 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 2: of high school, Morgan was a five star level recruit 1353 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,760 Speaker 2: who initially committed to Arkansas, but then she did committed 1354 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 2: to go to FIST because, according to her coach, Kauran 1355 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 2: Tarvor Korean asked her flat out, do you want to 1356 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,120 Speaker 2: make history? And that's exactly what Morgan Price did. So 1357 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,520 Speaker 2: shout out to Fisk University for what they've accomplished. Also, 1358 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,520 Speaker 2: their season starts in January, so make sure you support 1359 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 2: them and check them out. Morgan Price is special and 1360 01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 2: could be the next great one. 1361 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for your question. 1362 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 2: Now, if any of you listening would like to ask 1363 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,920 Speaker 2: me a question, you can email me your question or 1364 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,280 Speaker 2: send me a video with your question. But if you 1365 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,800 Speaker 2: send me a video, make sure it's thirty seconds or less. 1366 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,280 Speaker 2: Send your questions to Spolitics twenty twenty four at gmail 1367 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 2: dot com. That's Politics twenty twenty four at gmail dot com. 1368 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:24,280 Speaker 2: That's spo li ti cs. 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