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Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Wednesday, April eighth, and a true

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Speaker 1: crime story is playing out in front of our eyes

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Speaker 1: in real life. However, they haven't confirmed yet whether or

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Speaker 1: not a crime has been committed. And with that, welcome

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Speaker 1: to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. It's very

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Speaker 1: everybody has heard the story before. Husband and wife go

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Speaker 1: out on a boat at night in the Caribbean. Only

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Speaker 1: the husband comes back since the wife fell off the boat.

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Speaker 1: This is where we are with the story. Robes Immediately,

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Speaker 1: where does everybody's head go?

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Speaker 2: Obviously, everyone thinks the husband always did it, so yes,

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Speaker 2: the suspicion has to fall squarely on the husband at

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Speaker 2: this point. But here's the deal. Lynette Hooker is the

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Speaker 2: woman who's missing. She's fifty five years old, she's from Michigan,

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Speaker 2: and she is supposed to be a strong swimmer, an

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Speaker 2: avid woman of the seas. She and her husband have

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Speaker 2: been documenting their travels on the seas on social media.

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Speaker 2: This isn't somebody who doesn't know what she's doing on

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Speaker 2: and they haven't found her. They haven't found her body.

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Speaker 1: There's no accidents happen, right it's the sea. It's dangerous.

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Speaker 1: So let's go back as we record this, Robes, we're

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Speaker 1: sitting here on Wednesday. This happened back on Saturday, so

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Speaker 1: to get everybody caught up, you might have been seeing

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Speaker 1: these headlines and you're seeing them more because yes, there

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Speaker 1: is an American woman, fifty five year old, the net

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Speaker 1: Hoooker of Michigan, who went out on this boat with

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Speaker 1: her husband, Bryan Brian on Saturday. He claims she fell off,

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Speaker 1: they got separated. He came back hours later, reported her missing,

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Speaker 1: and there a search and rescue is going on, which

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Speaker 1: is now you said, Robes officially has moved.

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Speaker 2: Into a recovery mission.

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Speaker 1: A recovery. Yes, they don't think they're going to find

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Speaker 1: her alive. So that is the story now, Robes, no

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Speaker 1: matter how suspicious that might sound, or we all go

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Speaker 1: back to other stories we've heard like this before. We

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Speaker 1: might even say, come on, man, that's one thing, but

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Speaker 1: it was elevated to a much higher profile and a

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Speaker 1: much bigger headline when Lynette's daughter started speaking.

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Speaker 2: That is correct, Carly Aylesworth, that is Lynette's daughter, and

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Speaker 2: she has been speaking to Fox News, to CBS, to ABC,

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Speaker 2: to NB She has talked to all the major news networks,

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Speaker 2: and she has said that her stepfather's story quote just

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Speaker 1: That's key to say here as well, step father, this

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Speaker 1: is not her dad. I don't know if you saw.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Robes will put you on the spot. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how long these two have been together, how

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Speaker 1: long they've been married, but I think they've been documenting

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Speaker 1: their travels and being on the water for a decade

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Speaker 1: or for years and years. They've been together for a while.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the exact date of their marriage or

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Speaker 2: how long they've been married. But she's fifty five, he's

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Speaker 2: fifty eight, and yes, this is his stepdaughter, but she

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Speaker 2: has been around them for long periods of time. Because

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Speaker 2: she talks about some violent history between the two, I

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Speaker 2: can go ahead and just read some of her quotes

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Speaker 2: so that everyone is caught up as to why this

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Speaker 2: story now is taking a potentially a very dark turn.

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Speaker 1: So we now have is it fair to say, I

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Speaker 1: think I stopped you before we even started recording. I said,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, is she flat out accusing her stepdad

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Speaker 1: of killing her step mom. Your answer was like, yes,

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Speaker 1: she's not exactly tiptoeing around that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, she hasn't flat out said it, but

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Speaker 2: let's just listen to her. These are some of the

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Speaker 2: comments she has been making over the past several days.

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Speaker 2: There's a history of him choking her out and threatening

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Speaker 2: actually happening makes me believe there is more to the story. So, Okay,

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Speaker 2: she didn't directly accuse him of doing it this time,

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Speaker 2: but she certainly suggested she thinks that's highly likely. What Yes,

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Speaker 2: she goes on to say to another news outlet, there

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Speaker 2: have been prior issues brought to my attention which may

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Speaker 2: be important for any thorough investigation. If this truly was

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Speaker 2: an accident, I can understand and live with it. However,

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Speaker 2: and circumstances of this tragic incident before that can be determined.

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Speaker 2: She said that, and then when they were asking, reporters

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Speaker 2: went on in that dinghy. And her point is, because

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Speaker 2: Brian's story is this, that it was Lynette who had

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Speaker 2: there were high seas, she had the key with her.

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Speaker 2: And when she fell overboard with the key, the motor

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Speaker 2: out something and she said, Brian is always driving. He

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Speaker 2: that my mom had it doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we agree with that. If we do agree, who

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Speaker 1: knows what could have happened. Maybe she ended up with

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Speaker 1: rogues and we can describe this, and we've seen I

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Speaker 1: think the dinghy in question. They were not on some

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Speaker 1: going to fall out of. You just don't fall out

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Speaker 1: Look I think eight or bottom though.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I've been in a boat like this, and

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Speaker 2: I've actually been in high seas caught out unexpectedly. It's

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Speaker 2: a little rocky, but it's stable and it's steady, and

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Speaker 2: it's not as if it's something that you would easily

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Speaker 2: And she had even talked about her mom being a

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Speaker 2: strong swimmer. And we both listened to the voicemail that Brian,

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Speaker 2: her stepfather, called and left her. It was so calm.

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Speaker 2: It was so calm. He's calling his stepdaughter and telling

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Speaker 2: presumed dead at this point, and he's so calm. He says,

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Speaker 2: said basically kind of already putting out a defense. I

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Speaker 2: tried to throw your mom a flotation device but she

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Speaker 2: couldn't get it. And he said the flotation device was found,

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Speaker 2: but your mom hasn't been so far, it just seems

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Speaker 1: I can't I don't know any in cases like this,

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Speaker 1: they have been searching. He at this point is a

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Speaker 1: why someone, why do you think you're going to get

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Speaker 2: What do you do exactly. It's not like he was

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Speaker 2: If you're on an eight foot dinghy in the middle

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Speaker 2: By the way, because he said they were, they left

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Speaker 2: to their yacht or to their larger boat. So this

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Speaker 2: was a dinghy they had taken to get from one

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Speaker 2: he claims, yes, that the the seas were high and

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Speaker 2: out to her look let me just ask you this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know everybody's different, babe, but if I

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Speaker 1: And I'm trying to give him.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were saying you didn't know if you

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Speaker 1: And say it. I don't.

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Speaker 2: You would jump. I know you would.

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Speaker 1: I damn. That is instinct. But maybe he's a he's

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Speaker 1: But instinct, I don't know how you get separated that.

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Speaker 1: He's if you just fall out, how much of a

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Speaker 2: I mean we jumped out of boats before and made

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Speaker 2: it back just fine. Now here's the deal. We don't

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Speaker 2: Look they're there, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But all these things we're saying, babe, we're trying to

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Speaker 1: the things we're coming up with are pretty last case

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't. As I'm talking to you, you're shaking

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Speaker 2: I'm just going back to her daughter's statements. Their relationship

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Speaker 1: Before relationships can be volatile. What I am saying to

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Speaker 2: Of it, it still would be questionable.

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Speaker 1: The suspicion is still there, but it doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: But to your point, how are they going to actually

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Speaker 2: prove a crime was committed? The only way would be

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Speaker 2: potentially if they found her body and there was some

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Speaker 2: some sort of violence before drowning. That would be the

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Speaker 2: in the Caribbean Sea for days now, so we're talking

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Speaker 2: at least four days now. What wildlife, it's awful, and

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Speaker 2: just the sea itself does to a body, I would

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Speaker 2: imagine would get rid of a lot of potential evidence The.

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Speaker 1: Other evidence option was the boat, Like, what are the

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Speaker 1: chances maybe something's in the boat? Are they examining that

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Speaker 1: a struggle. I don't know, but how but again robs

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Speaker 1: you damn we are taking this through. No, but the

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Speaker 1: daughter put it out there, so it's fair. But you're

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Speaker 1: going through these scenarios of potential. She is suggesting that

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Speaker 1: her dad is responsible for the death of her mother.

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Speaker 1: How so you go through how is something like this

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Speaker 1: possibly pulled off? And ropes he had to of violently

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Speaker 1: done something, because if you you can't just push her over,

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Speaker 1: she's going to fight to get back on the book,

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Speaker 1: I guess you could have done so and driven off

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Speaker 1: and this left her, but she's a strong swimmer. How

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Speaker 1: Would he have had to make sure she was dead?

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Speaker 1: Is my question?

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Speaker 2: Possibly, and that would be the only evidence if her

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Speaker 2: body can be or will ever be recovered. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know with ocean currents in that area what the

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Speaker 2: likelihood of that is. But there have been search crews

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Speaker 2: going on non stop looking for Lennette Hooker at this point,

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Speaker 2: And welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ,

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Speaker 2: where we are talking about a massive Bahamian mystery going

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to the top, thought he

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Speaker 2: Yes, he was okay. Line again, he said, I am

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Speaker 1: We need to give this dude some grace. This is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and suspicion obviously is pointed squarely at Brian Hooker. However,

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's knew that was gone.

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Speaker 2: Natalie would two point zh okay And guess what, Well,

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Speaker 2: And then and I'm Kim Kardashian. She's probably rich and

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Speaker 2: Well, the point being, he's claiming he's innocent and she

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Speaker 1: Because that's the way the story has often gone.

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Speaker 2: Correct. Wonder what the last thing she said to him

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Speaker 2: they said Bostal boatsol Sorry, Boatstal, that's what they said.

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Speaker 1: Robert Wagner is not a big deal. I it's hard

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Speaker 1: And you know what the daughter you spoke of, Robes.

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