WEBVTT - #719 Packers Unscripted: Initial spotlight 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:11.080 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.560 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.600 by my partner in crime, Weston hod Qwitz. We're coming 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:21.160 to you here from different locations at Lambeufield and Wes. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.239 A lot has gone on since our last show, So 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.840 without further ado, let's dive into it. First and foremost, 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:31.400 the Family Night practice, the big event Saturday night at 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.680 lambeau Field. If you were to ask me to pick 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:37.839 a one and a one A in terms of players 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.680 who stood out on the practice field at Lambo on 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:44.559 Saturday night, my one is rookie kicker Andres Carlson, and 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:49.320 my one A is converted inside linebacker Turek Carpenter. I 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.680 thought both of those guys made certain statements of their 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:54.200 own during that practice. 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:56.440 That's a great observation, Mike. It was funny. 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.000 I we talked about this before, and I haven't covered 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.280 the Family Night scrimmage practice. Now excuse me in a 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:05.080 while because I was with Leroy Butler last year at 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:08.240 the Canton for the Hall of Fame, so maybe I 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:11.160 have like recency bias here. I actually felt like it 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.920 was more the it was one of the more consequential 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:17.200 family knights i've covered. It felt like stuff happened when 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:18.959 I was in the locker room afterwards. I felt like, 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.319 not only was it the seventy thousand people or sixty 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:24.399 five thousand people, not only was it just the event, 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.000 but I actually felt like it was a really productive practice. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.440 I thought, and I wrote about it in the Follower. 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:32.720 Whatever you want to call it, the locker room report 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.479 version of what we did with the practice in Tari 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.040 Carpenter because to me, although he's no longer a defensive 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.360 back technically in Green Bay, he's an inside linebacker now. 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.480 I thought that was a performance that reminded me of 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:51.360 the Brandon you know, ross the what's the kid's name 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.480 that was the Was it Brandon Smith? I'm trying to remember. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.320 They've had these guys that have been either like undrafted 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:00.960 free agents or late round picks that have really stood 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.360 out during the family night, and I felt like that 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.560 was Terrey Carpenter. What I love about this guy is 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:08.760 six foot three, two hundred and thirty pounds, runs of 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:12.240 five excuse me, four or five to two forty and 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.600 is so athletically gifted. But I think the Packers and 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.560 a lot of teams around the National Football League. We're 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:20.960 trying to figure out, how is it going to play 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.600 in the NFL, What is his position going to be now? 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:25.920 As he said afterwards to us, I mean a lot 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.400 of days, this still feels like an extended rookie season 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.400 to him because he is learning a new position. But 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:33.840 for a guy that I think probably was sort of 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.880 looking for that confidence boost, he found it in that performance. 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.760 I mean the interception he had off Sean Clifford in 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.400 the live tackling period was just a heads up play. 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:44.520 It's one of those, as I said when we did 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:48.040 our three things afterwards with Larry, it's a bang bang play. 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:49.720 You gotta get it. You have to make it. You're 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:51.360 not going to get a second chance at it. And 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:51.840 he made it. 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:53.760 And then obviously later on was in the right place 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:55.920 at the right time on the Benny Sap hit of 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.359 Dantavian Wicks that led to a second pick. Some people say, well, 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:00.840 that one was kind of in his lap, but those 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:02.560 are the plays you have to make, and you have 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.600 to be in the right position to make the play 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:05.200 when it's there. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.880 So I was really impressed with him. And then Andres Carlson. 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.639 It was exactly what that young guy needed. I don't 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.239 think he lacks for confidence at all. He seems like 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.200 a guy that is pretty pretty confident in his abilities 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:17.840 and what he can do on a football field. But 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.240 I think it was a reminder to all of us 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.560 of Okay, this is what the Packers really liked about him. 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.360 He had some struggles in practices, he's been missing his 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.720 first kick on some of these rotations he's gone through. 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.040 But when the lights were brightest and he needed to 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.040 make a statement, as you said, he definitely did that. 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.880 Yeah, Carlson was eight for nine I believe were the 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.240 final numbers on his field goals during family and the 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.040 one miss was really not on him. It was a 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:45.720 bad snap, the operation was kind of all messed up 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.680 there and he missed the one. But then he also 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:52.680 followed up with a pretty pretty solid effort in practice 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:56.360 on Monday back on Nichkie Field, dealing with some significant win, 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.320 probably the most significant win that he's dealt with in 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:03.080 practice so far, and uh and had another solid showing there. 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.280 So you have to like the way the way Carlson 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.320 has uh had has you know, continued I guess to 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.960 ascend you know, after a little bit of a rough start, 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.320 some ups and downs, maybe things are starting to smooth 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:16.279 out a little bit for him. 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.720 Go ahead, yeah, something. I'm very proud of myself. I'm 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:21.640 very proud of myself. It was Brandon. 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.000 It was it was Brandon Smith, the CONVERTI nice job. 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.800 I would not I remember Brandon Ross And obviously it's 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:28.800 easier to remember him. 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:30.600 He works in the apartment here. 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:30.760 Now. 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.800 Yeah, he's been he's been back since his playing days. 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.039 He's been back for quite a while. But but the 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:37.760 Brandon Smith one, it's a good recall. 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:39.640 The reason I wanted to bring that one up so 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:41.520 badly was the fact that he was a receiver at 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.520 ASU that converted to cornerback. He made a big play 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.120 during Family Night in twenty thirteen, I believe it was. 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:51.160 And again it's those little moments that these guys. You're 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.279 not going to get a live tackling period with Jordan 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.919 Love and Christian Watson and Jay R Alexander, but you 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.960 get the live tackling period with some of those young guys. 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.919 Now that that that live action, and I feel like 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.520 that's where you see the hunger in the desire in 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:05.200 these A lot of guys. 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:06.520 Give credit to Benny sapp. 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:08.760 I don't know anybody talk to him after the practice, 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.120 but that guy went out there and put it on 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.040 the line to create that play for Carpenter. 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.240 So yeah, it's gonna happen. Mike. 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.359 We're days away now at the time we're taping this 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.360 away from this, these joint practices, and that this preseason 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.320 game against the Bengals. You've got three weeks to make 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.480 a statement, make the fifty three man roster, and I 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:24.560 felt like Carpenter did that. 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:26.760 Yeah, And I have to admit, Wes, and I think 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.800 I told you this back when we first heard about 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:32.720 Carpenter being shifted from safety to inside linebacker. I am 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.320 like the ultimate skeptic when it comes to these position changes, 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.520 Like I've seen this happen with young players. Usually, as 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.960 you mentioned, it can be an undrafted guy or a 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.440 late round draft pick. In Carpenter's case, He's a seventh 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:48.040 round pick last year, and it just it very rarely 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.279 do these things work out. Every once in a while, 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.280 you know, a Spencer Havener comes along who converts from 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.719 linebacker to tight end and ends up making the roster 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.159 and making an impact on the team. But that is 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:01.000 definitely the exception and not the rule. This one with 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.159 Carpenter just might stick. It just might work out because 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.800 he had already established himself on special teams, so that's 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.000 we have to get that out of the way first. 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.760 So my skepticism was not so much in terms of 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.720 what he could still contribute to this football team. But 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.000 these positions switches, it's it's tough. It's a tough deal. 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.000 They don't work out very often. But he looks like 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:27.479 he's really settling in to inside linebacker. He doesn't have 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.960 the prototypical body for it, but he also doesn't have 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.560 the prototypical body for safety, which is why they've been 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.960 trying to figure out. You know, he's got he's got size, 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.240 he's got decent speed. There's a lot to work with 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.800 there physically, but where does he best fit if you're 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:46.000 going to put him into eleven on eleven on defense? 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.880 And I thought he had. I thought he had a really, 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.840 really solid practice. He was obviously very excited about it 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.239 as well as you talked to him afterwards. He felt 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.760 like it was his best practice at inside linebacker since 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:59.320 he had made the switch. And when you can do 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.520 that on a night like family night under the lights 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.240 sixty five thousand. It sets up well for him to 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.719 now move into the joint practice with the Bengals, the 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:11.640 first preseason game in Cincinnati. So so Carpenter definitely a 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:13.360 guy to keep an eye on. A couple other things 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.800 to watch for here, And as you said, Wes, not 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:17.880 long after we turn off the cameras here, we're going 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:19.880 to be headed to the airport to go to Cincinnati. 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.280 The Packers have a joint practice with the Bengals on Wednesday. 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.840 The preseason opener is on Friday. But a few other 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:31.160 things that stood out to me. I'm really curious to 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:36.200 see if what appears to be developing some decent depth 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:40.160 on the defensive line with these young players. I'm curious 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.560 to see if this can now carry over into these 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.000 preseason games. As can't move along. Because we've seen Colby 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.480 Wooden and Carl Brooks, the two draft picks, the two 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.440 day three draft picks from this last draft class, and 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.000 then a seventh round pick from last year, Jonathan Ford. 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.440 These guys are starting to flash. Now they're not going 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.680 up against the ones you know, they're they're playing on 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.440 the reserve units and whatnot, but they're doing some things 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:07.880 to get noticed, and I think as training camp goes along, 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.120 these guys are really starting to get their legs under him. 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.160 And I kind of like what I'm starting to see 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:16.000 from these young defensive linemen that the Packers are to 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.440 some extent certainly are going to be counting on in 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:19.320 twenty twenty three. 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:21.520 They're all going to be such huge perirs, you know, 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.160 pieces of this whole puzzle. Mike. I mean, I think 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:25.480 you've even seen with Kenny Clark. 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:27.800 I think Kenny had one of his best practices back 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.120 to back from family Night and then going into Monday. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.520 These young guys in the rotation the Packers can get 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.080 going is going to be so critical to the success 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.640 of this unit moving forward. DeVante Wyatt flashed early on 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.040 that was great to see. As a former first round pick, 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.840 I think TJ. Slayton could potentially feel a huge, huge 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.760 need in this defense as a run stuffing nose tackle. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.480 But then it's the Carl Brooks is just randomly showing 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.320 up in the backfield so many times now for Green Bay. 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.559 Colby Wooden has really struck me as a very consistent, 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:00.520 disruptive play. 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:01.000 Here early on. 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.120 That's how you get in the rotation, right, Mike, when 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.080 you go back to Kenny Clark's rookie year, when you 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.959 go back to Mike Daniel's rookie year. Shoot, even look 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:10.800 at the way a guy like bj Rogie broke in 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.280 the door in two thousand and nine. You have to 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.720 find ways to contribute to the group, and I feel 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:18.079 like you're seeing that with these young guys. 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:19.520 The Packers took a risk. 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.360 I've talked about this in inbox, you and I have 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.600 talked about on this show. They could have easily looked 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.040 to find a three million, four million dollar a year 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.560 veteran defensive lineman to bring into that rotation, but kind 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:31.880 of like what they did at tight End, kind of 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:33.800 like they've done in some of these other positions, they 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.000 opted to go young, take those lumps together, but hope 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.120 that over the long run, you're gonna find some real answers. 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:44.840 But I'll say this, Mike, with DeVante Wyatt specifically, if 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.839 this kid can continue to stack these days the way 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.640 he has for the first two weeks of camp, maybe 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:52.480 show some of that in the preseason, we'll see. But 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.440 if he gets off to this, you know, kind of 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.680 torrid start that he's been off to in training camp. 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.599 This is probably the most excited I've been about a 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.400 Packer's defensive lineman from the jump in a very long 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.840 time in terms of what his long term potential could be. 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.480 Yeah, I think there's a there's a lot to like 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.920 there from what we've seen. It's still early, long way 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.400 to go, and the preseason games are certainly going to 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.680 show us a lot in terms of how far these 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.280 young defensive linemen can develop. A Couple other things on 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:20.160 family and I don't want to touch on. I thought 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.720 coming off of what was a pretty good practice for 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:27.200 the Packers tight ends on Thursday, and I had mentioned 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.439 on our three Things video after that practice, I thought, 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.760 you know, Tyler Davis was laying some of blocks in 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.720 the running game and Luke Musgrave and Tucker Craft were 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:39.280 making some nice catches downfield. I thought they followed it 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:43.200 up with a pretty solid family night practice as well 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.760 in a lot of those same respects. And then connected 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:51.360 to Luke Musgrave, he was a big part of the 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.880 lightning fast two minute drill that Jordan Love ran getting 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.840 going seventy five yards I believe in four plays, maybe 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.120 it was five down the fil Old Musgrave had a 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:05.000 big catch there, and after the two minute drill had 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:06.920 to be re wrecked because there was a bad snap 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.960 or I should say a mistimed shotgun snap on the 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.360 first one, So rather than just end the drill right there, 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:17.320 they rewracked it and Jordan Love took the offense right 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:21.160 down the field lickety split. And another thing I guess 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:24.200 to make note of, we hadn't really heard or seen 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.439 a whole lot of Christian Watson on Family and Night, 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.079 but then boy, during that two minute drill, it was 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.520 it was banged two catches. I think he covered, you know, 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.640 roughly forty of the seventy five yards, including the last 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:38.319 twenty with a touchdown on a back shoulder throw and 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.800 a great catch against some pretty good coverage. So that 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.480 two minute drill was a was a pretty good way 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:46.880 to end that night for the number one offense. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:47.960 It really was. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.760 I mean, I you always have to throw in the 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.000 caveat that. You can't have the miscommunication or whatever that 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.160 issue was that led to the fumbled snap at the beginning, 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.959 because as I was sort of talking about writing about, 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.720 that's the difference between them either getting the ball in 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.080 the red zone the opposition or getting a touchdown or 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.360 Jordan Love bringing this team down the field and looking 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:07.800 like a million bucks while doing it. 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.480 Yeah, it's that narrow right. But here's why I like 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:12.200 the most about it. 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.439 Talking to Sean Clifford, it wasn't about this place specifically, 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.840 but it was Bill Huber asked this question of Sean Clifford. 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.359 I thought it was an excellent question and even better answer. 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:25.600 The the the rhythm of a two minute drill in 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:29.120 what it represents, and Clifford said, in a lot of ways, 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:30.280 it's like art. 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:32.080 It is. It is a feel. 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:36.120 It is. You know, there's decisions that you have to 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.160 make within it. You know whether or not to check 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.240 down and do you have a timeout? And if you 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.080 don't have the timeout, you're in the middle of the field. 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:43.920 Is it worth the five yards? Do you just throw 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:45.080 it away? Do you dirt it? 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:47.240 And I just. 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.800 Thought that that series in particular showed the mastery of 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.000 Jordan Love and it kind of gave me some callbacks 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:57.040 to that game in Philadelphia a little bit. He starts 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:01.440 off with a very what does the Watson plays were? 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.520 And we'll talk about those in a second. Hitting Luke 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:08.080 Musgrave down in the seam on whatever that kind of 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.680 like a skinny post, sort of rowdy was running. That's 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:15.240 something Green Bay's been searching years for. Robert Tunyan did 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.720 it at times, but it's been difficult to find that 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:19.720 that seam threat. They've been kind of searching for it 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:21.720 for ten years, to be honest with you, since Jermichael 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:25.440 Finley retired. So being able to get a big chunk 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.760 play like that, that's what the big offenses in this 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.360 league do. That's why the Travis Kelceys are making the 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.760 money that they're making right now. Flip it forward them 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:38.040 the two Watson plays. He showed his speed and explosiveness 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:42.200 on the first one and then just the Aaron Rodgers, 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.240 Jordan Nelson whatever kind of you know relationship you want 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.880 to call it on the back throw, back shoulder throw 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:52.640 and love put it on the money with the catch 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.960 radius of Christian Watson. He caught it, kept it away 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.800 from the defender, scored the touchdown. I think that was 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:00.600 one of the bigger moments for the Powers number one 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.520 offense in this training camp because those are the competition 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.200 periods and nobody's doing push ups or set ups or 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:11.000 you know, updowns or whatever. But let's be honest, Mike, 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:12.719 you and I have watched enough of these things. That's 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.160 when the rubber hits the road in these practices is 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.679 when you get to the two minute situation. I felt 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.520 like the offense, after a little bit of a stumble 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:23.120 early on, really rallied and I love what I've seen 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:24.760 from Jordan Love in those moments. 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:25.280 Yeah. 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.600 Absolutely, it was a rough start to the night for 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.120 the number one offense. There were lots of bumps in 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.120 the road in the first you know, one to two 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.240 team periods, the eleven on eleven, But then you saw them, 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.240 you know, kind of start to find find a little something, 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.600 find a little bit of rhythm, and then with the 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:45.440 two minute drill they got things figured out and lickety 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.640 split went right down the field. So some other news 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.400 actually post family Night that I want to get to, 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.600 but we'll take care of some sponsor business. Here for 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:58.960 serious XM. NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.760 to the minute NFL news that true football fanatics need 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:05.120 twenty four to seven, three sixty five, and at Cousin Subs, 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.840 we have something for everyone, like our Wisconsin cheese curds, 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:11.080 mac and cheese, golden fries, and creamy shakes. All paired 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.400 with your favorite sub or sub and a bowl cousin 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:19.000 subs fifty years of better. All right, some news. First, 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.400 on Sunday, the day after Family and Night, the Packers 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:26.240 made the decision to release backup quarterback Danny Ettling, which 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.640 has now reduced the quarterback room heading into these preseason 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.920 games and the joint practices from four down to three. 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.440 So you have Jordan Love, you have rookie fifth round 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:39.400 pick Sean Clifford, and you have the reigning USFL MVP 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:46.080 in Alex Magoo. And then on Monday, Rashaun Gary and 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:50.160 rookie seventh round pick at wide receiver Grant Dubo's they 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:54.280 both were activated and practiced for the first time. For Gary, 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:58.120 it's his first practice since the ACL injury in Detroit 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.680 last November, and for dub it's his first practice as 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:05.360 a Green Bay Packer because since the Packers had drafted him, 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.280 he'd been dealing with a back injury. He missed OTA's 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.480 and Mini camp and everything in training camp up to 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.880 this point. Now, both of those guys as of Monday, 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.840 just doing individual drills, not cleared for eleven on eleven, 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:20.160 you know, the full contact stuff just yet. But a 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:24.480 good sign that those guys are activated, and certainly a 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.840 potentially really good sign that maybe the Packers will have 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:30.920 Rashaan Gary on the field for a Week one in Chicago. 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.840 Nobody's making any promises, but that game is still a 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:37.720 month away, and Rashon Geary is cleared to be doing 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.120 some drills on the practice field. That's a great sign. 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:42.000 Mike, looking at my phone. 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.040 Here the time in which, again we're taping this August eighth. 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.040 The Green Bay Packers at the beginning of the training 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.280 camp said, Hey, we're gonna take these two weeks. We're 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.160 going to see where things are at with Rashaan Gary 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.200 and then move from there. I think that is a 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.680 huge positive sign that everything in his rehab and that 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:00.320 final sort of stretch in terms of the return into 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:04.560 play was sort of green light to get to this point. 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.159 You're not going to put Rashaun Gary out there if 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.639 you don't feel confident in the ligament and confident in 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.119 his recovery. Nine months in, one day after tearing his 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.080 ACL he was back out there now again. As you said, 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:17.200 you don't want to overemphasize things you don't want to 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.520 talk about. Hey, what is this going to mean, when's 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:20.720 he going to play, is he going to be in 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:24.719 team periods, what have you. But there was a lot 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.840 of people, including myself, that when those injuries happened in November, 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.240 you immediately start thinking what does that mean for their 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.919 next season? Last year, Elton Jenkins ends up making it 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:38.080 back after suffering a November ACL tear he missed at 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.840 the beginning of the season, but then is available to 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.440 be able to get Rashaun Gary back in the flow 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:45.359 of things, I think was huge, and as Larry pointed 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:46.960 out in three Things, I mean, the fact that this 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.480 young man stood right up and took the first reps 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.840 of the individuals. I think that sets the tone for 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.320 the entire group, and Mike I just salivate at the 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.960 thought of the ways in which Green Bay can use 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:01.160 all of these pass rushers when they get Rashaan Gary 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.960 back on the field. Lucas Fans is not going to 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.200 be an MVP overnight. I'm not going to try to 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.800 illustrate it as such, but you know, I actually think 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:11.119 that was one of the things they've kind of missed 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.240 here since the end of the Zadarias Smith era was 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:16.080 having the three sort of outside backers and the dime 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:19.520 package that you can really rely on for pressure. Gary 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.679 can play inside, Ben ask could potentially play inside. You 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.440 have pressed and available Kingsley and Nigbari I thought really 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.119 passed a lot of tests last year, and then obviously 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:30.359 Kenny Clark being utilized in that capacity. 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:32.080 That's the money down. 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.360 And I would say the Packers with the way they're 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.240 set up right now with those cornerbacks and those inside backers, 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:39.840 they have a lot of bases covered. But it was 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:41.960 trying to make sure that you can pressure the quarterback 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.280 in those instances, and Rashan Gary being back and having 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:46.160 Lucas fans in the fold now goes a long way 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:47.240 and helping accomplish that. 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:49.240 Yeah, And the way I look at it, I mean 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.080