1 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: by my partner in crime, Weston hod Qwitz. We're coming 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: to you here from different locations at Lambeufield and Wes. 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: A lot has gone on since our last show, So 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: without further ado, let's dive into it. First and foremost, 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: the Family Night practice, the big event Saturday night at 8 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: lambeau Field. If you were to ask me to pick 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: a one and a one A in terms of players 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: who stood out on the practice field at Lambo on 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: Saturday night, my one is rookie kicker Andres Carlson, and 12 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: my one A is converted inside linebacker Turek Carpenter. I 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: thought both of those guys made certain statements of their 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: own during that practice. 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: That's a great observation, Mike. It was funny. 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: I we talked about this before, and I haven't covered 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 3: the Family Night scrimmage practice. Now excuse me in a 18 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: while because I was with Leroy Butler last year at 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: the Canton for the Hall of Fame, so maybe I 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: have like recency bias here. I actually felt like it 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: was more the it was one of the more consequential 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: family knights i've covered. It felt like stuff happened when 23 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: I was in the locker room afterwards. I felt like, 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 3: not only was it the seventy thousand people or sixty 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 3: five thousand people, not only was it just the event, 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: but I actually felt like it was a really productive practice. 27 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: I thought, and I wrote about it in the Follower. 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: Whatever you want to call it, the locker room report 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 3: version of what we did with the practice in Tari 30 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: Carpenter because to me, although he's no longer a defensive 31 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: back technically in Green Bay, he's an inside linebacker now. 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 3: I thought that was a performance that reminded me of 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: the Brandon you know, ross the what's the kid's name 34 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: that was the Was it Brandon Smith? I'm trying to remember. 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: They've had these guys that have been either like undrafted 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: free agents or late round picks that have really stood 37 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: out during the family night, and I felt like that 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: was Terrey Carpenter. What I love about this guy is 39 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: six foot three, two hundred and thirty pounds, runs of 40 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: five excuse me, four or five to two forty and 41 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: is so athletically gifted. But I think the Packers and 42 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: a lot of teams around the National Football League. We're 43 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 3: trying to figure out, how is it going to play 44 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: in the NFL, What is his position going to be now? 45 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 3: As he said afterwards to us, I mean a lot 46 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: of days, this still feels like an extended rookie season 47 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: to him because he is learning a new position. But 48 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: for a guy that I think probably was sort of 49 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: looking for that confidence boost, he found it in that performance. 50 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: I mean the interception he had off Sean Clifford in 51 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: the live tackling period was just a heads up play. 52 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: It's one of those, as I said when we did 53 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: our three things afterwards with Larry, it's a bang bang play. 54 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: You gotta get it. You have to make it. You're 55 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: not going to get a second chance at it. And 56 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: he made it. 57 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: And then obviously later on was in the right place 58 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: at the right time on the Benny Sap hit of 59 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 3: Dantavian Wicks that led to a second pick. Some people say, well, 60 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 3: that one was kind of in his lap, but those 61 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: are the plays you have to make, and you have 62 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: to be in the right position to make the play 63 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: when it's there. 64 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: So I was really impressed with him. And then Andres Carlson. 65 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 3: It was exactly what that young guy needed. I don't 66 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 3: think he lacks for confidence at all. He seems like 67 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: a guy that is pretty pretty confident in his abilities 68 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: and what he can do on a football field. But 69 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: I think it was a reminder to all of us 70 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: of Okay, this is what the Packers really liked about him. 71 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 3: He had some struggles in practices, he's been missing his 72 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: first kick on some of these rotations he's gone through. 73 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: But when the lights were brightest and he needed to 74 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: make a statement, as you said, he definitely did that. 75 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Carlson was eight for nine I believe were the 76 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: final numbers on his field goals during family and the 77 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: one miss was really not on him. It was a 78 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: bad snap, the operation was kind of all messed up 79 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: there and he missed the one. But then he also 80 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: followed up with a pretty pretty solid effort in practice 81 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: on Monday back on Nichkie Field, dealing with some significant win, 82 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: probably the most significant win that he's dealt with in 83 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: practice so far, and uh and had another solid showing there. 84 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: So you have to like the way the way Carlson 85 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: has uh had has you know, continued I guess to 86 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: ascend you know, after a little bit of a rough start, 87 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: some ups and downs, maybe things are starting to smooth 88 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: out a little bit for him. 89 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: Go ahead, yeah, something. I'm very proud of myself. I'm 90 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: very proud of myself. It was Brandon. 91 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: It was it was Brandon Smith, the CONVERTI nice job. 92 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: I would not I remember Brandon Ross And obviously it's 93 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: easier to remember him. 94 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: He works in the apartment here. 95 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: Now. 96 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been he's been back since his playing days. 97 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: He's been back for quite a while. But but the 98 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: Brandon Smith one, it's a good recall. 99 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: The reason I wanted to bring that one up so 100 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: badly was the fact that he was a receiver at 101 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: ASU that converted to cornerback. He made a big play 102 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: during Family Night in twenty thirteen, I believe it was. 103 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 3: And again it's those little moments that these guys. You're 104 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: not going to get a live tackling period with Jordan 105 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 3: Love and Christian Watson and Jay R Alexander, but you 106 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: get the live tackling period with some of those young guys. 107 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 3: Now that that that live action, and I feel like 108 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: that's where you see the hunger in the desire in 109 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: these A lot of guys. 110 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: Give credit to Benny sapp. 111 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: I don't know anybody talk to him after the practice, 112 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: but that guy went out there and put it on 113 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: the line to create that play for Carpenter. 114 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's gonna happen. Mike. 115 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 3: We're days away now at the time we're taping this 116 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: away from this, these joint practices, and that this preseason 117 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: game against the Bengals. You've got three weeks to make 118 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 3: a statement, make the fifty three man roster, and I 119 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 3: felt like Carpenter did that. 120 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I have to admit, Wes, and I think 121 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: I told you this back when we first heard about 122 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: Carpenter being shifted from safety to inside linebacker. I am 123 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: like the ultimate skeptic when it comes to these position changes, 124 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: Like I've seen this happen with young players. Usually, as 125 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: you mentioned, it can be an undrafted guy or a 126 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: late round draft pick. In Carpenter's case, He's a seventh 127 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: round pick last year, and it just it very rarely 128 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: do these things work out. Every once in a while, 129 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, a Spencer Havener comes along who converts from 130 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: linebacker to tight end and ends up making the roster 131 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: and making an impact on the team. But that is 132 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: definitely the exception and not the rule. This one with 133 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: Carpenter just might stick. It just might work out because 134 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: he had already established himself on special teams, so that's 135 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: we have to get that out of the way first. 136 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: So my skepticism was not so much in terms of 137 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: what he could still contribute to this football team. But 138 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: these positions switches, it's it's tough. It's a tough deal. 139 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: They don't work out very often. But he looks like 140 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: he's really settling in to inside linebacker. He doesn't have 141 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: the prototypical body for it, but he also doesn't have 142 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: the prototypical body for safety, which is why they've been 143 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: trying to figure out. You know, he's got he's got size, 144 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: he's got decent speed. There's a lot to work with 145 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: there physically, but where does he best fit if you're 146 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: going to put him into eleven on eleven on defense? 147 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: And I thought he had. I thought he had a really, 148 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: really solid practice. He was obviously very excited about it 149 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 1: as well as you talked to him afterwards. He felt 150 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: like it was his best practice at inside linebacker since 151 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: he had made the switch. And when you can do 152 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: that on a night like family night under the lights 153 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: sixty five thousand. It sets up well for him to 154 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: now move into the joint practice with the Bengals, the 155 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: first preseason game in Cincinnati. So so Carpenter definitely a 156 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: guy to keep an eye on. A couple other things 157 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: to watch for here, And as you said, Wes, not 158 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: long after we turn off the cameras here, we're going 159 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: to be headed to the airport to go to Cincinnati. 160 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: The Packers have a joint practice with the Bengals on Wednesday. 161 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: The preseason opener is on Friday. But a few other 162 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: things that stood out to me. I'm really curious to 163 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: see if what appears to be developing some decent depth 164 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: on the defensive line with these young players. I'm curious 165 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: to see if this can now carry over into these 166 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: preseason games. As can't move along. Because we've seen Colby 167 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: Wooden and Carl Brooks, the two draft picks, the two 168 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: day three draft picks from this last draft class, and 169 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: then a seventh round pick from last year, Jonathan Ford. 170 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: These guys are starting to flash. Now they're not going 171 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: up against the ones you know, they're they're playing on 172 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: the reserve units and whatnot, but they're doing some things 173 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: to get noticed, and I think as training camp goes along, 174 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: these guys are really starting to get their legs under him. 175 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: And I kind of like what I'm starting to see 176 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: from these young defensive linemen that the Packers are to 177 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: some extent certainly are going to be counting on in 178 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. 179 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: They're all going to be such huge perirs, you know, 180 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: pieces of this whole puzzle. Mike. I mean, I think 181 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: you've even seen with Kenny Clark. 182 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: I think Kenny had one of his best practices back 183 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: to back from family Night and then going into Monday. 184 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: These young guys in the rotation the Packers can get 185 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 3: going is going to be so critical to the success 186 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: of this unit moving forward. DeVante Wyatt flashed early on 187 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: that was great to see. As a former first round pick, 188 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 3: I think TJ. Slayton could potentially feel a huge, huge 189 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: need in this defense as a run stuffing nose tackle. 190 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: But then it's the Carl Brooks is just randomly showing 191 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: up in the backfield so many times now for Green Bay. 192 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 3: Colby Wooden has really struck me as a very consistent, 193 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: disruptive play. 194 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: Here early on. 195 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: That's how you get in the rotation, right, Mike, when 196 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: you go back to Kenny Clark's rookie year, when you 197 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 3: go back to Mike Daniel's rookie year. Shoot, even look 198 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: at the way a guy like bj Rogie broke in 199 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: the door in two thousand and nine. You have to 200 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: find ways to contribute to the group, and I feel 201 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 3: like you're seeing that with these young guys. 202 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: The Packers took a risk. 203 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: I've talked about this in inbox, you and I have 204 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: talked about on this show. They could have easily looked 205 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: to find a three million, four million dollar a year 206 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 3: veteran defensive lineman to bring into that rotation, but kind 207 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: of like what they did at tight End, kind of 208 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: like they've done in some of these other positions, they 209 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: opted to go young, take those lumps together, but hope 210 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: that over the long run, you're gonna find some real answers. 211 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 3: But I'll say this, Mike, with DeVante Wyatt specifically, if 212 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 3: this kid can continue to stack these days the way 213 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: he has for the first two weeks of camp, maybe 214 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: show some of that in the preseason, we'll see. But 215 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 3: if he gets off to this, you know, kind of 216 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 3: torrid start that he's been off to in training camp. 217 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 3: This is probably the most excited I've been about a 218 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: Packer's defensive lineman from the jump in a very long 219 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: time in terms of what his long term potential could be. 220 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a there's a lot to like 221 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: there from what we've seen. It's still early, long way 222 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: to go, and the preseason games are certainly going to 223 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: show us a lot in terms of how far these 224 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: young defensive linemen can develop. A Couple other things on 225 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: family and I don't want to touch on. I thought 226 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: coming off of what was a pretty good practice for 227 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: the Packers tight ends on Thursday, and I had mentioned 228 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: on our three Things video after that practice, I thought, 229 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, Tyler Davis was laying some of blocks in 230 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: the running game and Luke Musgrave and Tucker Craft were 231 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: making some nice catches downfield. I thought they followed it 232 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: up with a pretty solid family night practice as well 233 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: in a lot of those same respects. And then connected 234 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: to Luke Musgrave, he was a big part of the 235 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: lightning fast two minute drill that Jordan Love ran getting 236 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: going seventy five yards I believe in four plays, maybe 237 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: it was five down the fil Old Musgrave had a 238 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: big catch there, and after the two minute drill had 239 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: to be re wrecked because there was a bad snap 240 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: or I should say a mistimed shotgun snap on the 241 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: first one, So rather than just end the drill right there, 242 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: they rewracked it and Jordan Love took the offense right 243 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: down the field lickety split. And another thing I guess 244 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: to make note of, we hadn't really heard or seen 245 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: a whole lot of Christian Watson on Family and Night, 246 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: but then boy, during that two minute drill, it was 247 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: it was banged two catches. I think he covered, you know, 248 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: roughly forty of the seventy five yards, including the last 249 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: twenty with a touchdown on a back shoulder throw and 250 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: a great catch against some pretty good coverage. So that 251 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: two minute drill was a was a pretty good way 252 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: to end that night for the number one offense. 253 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: It really was. 254 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I you always have to throw in the 255 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: caveat that. You can't have the miscommunication or whatever that 256 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: issue was that led to the fumbled snap at the beginning, 257 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 3: because as I was sort of talking about writing about, 258 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: that's the difference between them either getting the ball in 259 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: the red zone the opposition or getting a touchdown or 260 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: Jordan Love bringing this team down the field and looking 261 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: like a million bucks while doing it. 262 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that narrow right. But here's why I like 263 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: the most about it. 264 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 3: Talking to Sean Clifford, it wasn't about this place specifically, 265 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: but it was Bill Huber asked this question of Sean Clifford. 266 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,359 Speaker 2: I thought it was an excellent question and even better answer. 267 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 3: The the the rhythm of a two minute drill in 268 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: what it represents, and Clifford said, in a lot of ways, 269 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: it's like art. 270 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: It is. It is a feel. 271 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: It is. You know, there's decisions that you have to 272 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: make within it. You know whether or not to check 273 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: down and do you have a timeout? And if you 274 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 3: don't have the timeout, you're in the middle of the field. 275 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: Is it worth the five yards? Do you just throw 276 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 3: it away? Do you dirt it? 277 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: And I just. 278 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: Thought that that series in particular showed the mastery of 279 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: Jordan Love and it kind of gave me some callbacks 280 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 3: to that game in Philadelphia a little bit. He starts 281 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 3: off with a very what does the Watson plays were? 282 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: And we'll talk about those in a second. Hitting Luke 283 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 3: Musgrave down in the seam on whatever that kind of 284 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 3: like a skinny post, sort of rowdy was running. That's 285 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: something Green Bay's been searching years for. Robert Tunyan did 286 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 3: it at times, but it's been difficult to find that 287 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: that seam threat. They've been kind of searching for it 288 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 3: for ten years, to be honest with you, since Jermichael 289 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 3: Finley retired. So being able to get a big chunk 290 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: play like that, that's what the big offenses in this 291 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 3: league do. That's why the Travis Kelceys are making the 292 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: money that they're making right now. Flip it forward them 293 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 3: the two Watson plays. He showed his speed and explosiveness 294 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 3: on the first one and then just the Aaron Rodgers, 295 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: Jordan Nelson whatever kind of you know relationship you want 296 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 3: to call it on the back throw, back shoulder throw 297 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: and love put it on the money with the catch 298 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: radius of Christian Watson. He caught it, kept it away 299 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: from the defender, scored the touchdown. I think that was 300 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: one of the bigger moments for the Powers number one 301 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 3: offense in this training camp because those are the competition 302 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: periods and nobody's doing push ups or set ups or 303 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: you know, updowns or whatever. But let's be honest, Mike, 304 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 3: you and I have watched enough of these things. That's 305 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: when the rubber hits the road in these practices is 306 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 3: when you get to the two minute situation. I felt 307 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 3: like the offense, after a little bit of a stumble 308 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: early on, really rallied and I love what I've seen 309 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: from Jordan Love in those moments. 310 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 311 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it was a rough start to the night for 312 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: the number one offense. There were lots of bumps in 313 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: the road in the first you know, one to two 314 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: team periods, the eleven on eleven, But then you saw them, 315 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, kind of start to find find a little something, 316 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: find a little bit of rhythm, and then with the 317 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: two minute drill they got things figured out and lickety 318 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: split went right down the field. So some other news 319 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: actually post family Night that I want to get to, 320 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: but we'll take care of some sponsor business. Here for 321 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: serious XM. 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First, 328 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: on Sunday, the day after Family and Night, the Packers 329 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: made the decision to release backup quarterback Danny Ettling, which 330 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: has now reduced the quarterback room heading into these preseason 331 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: games and the joint practices from four down to three. 332 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: So you have Jordan Love, you have rookie fifth round 333 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: pick Sean Clifford, and you have the reigning USFL MVP 334 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: in Alex Magoo. And then on Monday, Rashaun Gary and 335 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: rookie seventh round pick at wide receiver Grant Dubo's they 336 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: both were activated and practiced for the first time. For Gary, 337 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: it's his first practice since the ACL injury in Detroit 338 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: last November, and for dub it's his first practice as 339 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: a Green Bay Packer because since the Packers had drafted him, 340 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: he'd been dealing with a back injury. He missed OTA's 341 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: and Mini camp and everything in training camp up to 342 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: this point. Now, both of those guys as of Monday, 343 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: just doing individual drills, not cleared for eleven on eleven, 344 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, the full contact stuff just yet. But a 345 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: good sign that those guys are activated, and certainly a 346 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: potentially really good sign that maybe the Packers will have 347 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: Rashaan Gary on the field for a Week one in Chicago. 348 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: Nobody's making any promises, but that game is still a 349 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: month away, and Rashon Geary is cleared to be doing 350 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: some drills on the practice field. That's a great sign. 351 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: Mike, looking at my phone. 352 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: Here the time in which, again we're taping this August eighth. 353 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: The Green Bay Packers at the beginning of the training 354 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: camp said, Hey, we're gonna take these two weeks. We're 355 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: going to see where things are at with Rashaan Gary 356 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: and then move from there. I think that is a 357 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: huge positive sign that everything in his rehab and that 358 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 3: final sort of stretch in terms of the return into 359 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: play was sort of green light to get to this point. 360 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 3: You're not going to put Rashaun Gary out there if 361 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 3: you don't feel confident in the ligament and confident in 362 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 3: his recovery. Nine months in, one day after tearing his 363 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: ACL he was back out there now again. As you said, 364 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 3: you don't want to overemphasize things you don't want to 365 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: talk about. Hey, what is this going to mean, when's 366 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: he going to play, is he going to be in 367 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 3: team periods, what have you. But there was a lot 368 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 3: of people, including myself, that when those injuries happened in November, 369 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 3: you immediately start thinking what does that mean for their 370 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 3: next season? Last year, Elton Jenkins ends up making it 371 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: back after suffering a November ACL tear he missed at 372 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: the beginning of the season, but then is available to 373 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: be able to get Rashaun Gary back in the flow 374 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 3: of things, I think was huge, and as Larry pointed 375 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 3: out in three Things, I mean, the fact that this 376 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: young man stood right up and took the first reps 377 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: of the individuals. I think that sets the tone for 378 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: the entire group, and Mike I just salivate at the 379 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: thought of the ways in which Green Bay can use 380 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 3: all of these pass rushers when they get Rashaan Gary 381 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 3: back on the field. Lucas Fans is not going to 382 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 3: be an MVP overnight. I'm not going to try to 383 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: illustrate it as such, but you know, I actually think 384 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 3: that was one of the things they've kind of missed 385 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: here since the end of the Zadarias Smith era was 386 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: having the three sort of outside backers and the dime 387 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: package that you can really rely on for pressure. Gary 388 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 3: can play inside, Ben ask could potentially play inside. You 389 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 3: have pressed and available Kingsley and Nigbari I thought really 390 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 3: passed a lot of tests last year, and then obviously 391 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 3: Kenny Clark being utilized in that capacity. 392 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: That's the money down. 393 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 3: And I would say the Packers with the way they're 394 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: set up right now with those cornerbacks and those inside backers, 395 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: they have a lot of bases covered. But it was 396 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 3: trying to make sure that you can pressure the quarterback 397 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 3: in those instances, and Rashan Gary being back and having 398 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 3: Lucas fans in the fold now goes a long way 399 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 3: and helping accomplish that. 400 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the way I look at it, I mean 401 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: hopefully Gary is on track to be available for Week one. 402 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily see Rashaun Gary playing sixty snaps at 403 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: Soldier Field in Week one, considering the length of the recovery. 404 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: But the way this timeline has gone, if you get 405 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: Rashaan Gary for ten snaps at Soldier Field in Week one, 406 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: that's a huge victory for the Packers and for this 407 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: defense because then he can only take off and and 408 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: go from there. So that that was that was really 409 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: really positive news to see him back on the practice field. Obviously, 410 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: he's very excited about it as well, although trying to 411 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: temper his own excitement knowing that it's it's not as 412 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: though he gets completely cut loose to do everything he 413 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: wants to. You know, the medical staffs has have a 414 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: plan for him. They're going to They're going to bring 415 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: him along and see where things go. With regard to 416 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: the backup quarterback situation, We're certainly going to see I 417 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: think a fair amount of rookie fifth round pick out 418 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: of Penn State, Sean Clifford in these preseason games. Matt 419 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: Lafleur had suggested that that, you know, Jordan Love may 420 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: may be playing some in these three preseason games as well. 421 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: But but I think I think the coaching staff is 422 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: gonna is gonna put Clifford in there and for a 423 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: good chunk of time, and these these three preseason games 424 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: are going to be, you know, trial by fire for 425 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: him in terms of how quickly, how quickly can we 426 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: get a rookie quarterback to a level that that if 427 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: he's needed, he could step in and no offense to 428 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: to Alex Magoo. But he like just got here right 429 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: before training camp. I mean, there's still a lot with 430 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: the playbook that he needs to learn and everything like that, 431 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: and he's certainly coming along and he's made his share 432 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: of plays. But the Packers invested a fifth round pick 433 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: in Sean Clifford, and now Danny Ettling is gone. Clifford 434 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: is the guy who who's going to have a big 435 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: spotlight on him. I think in this preseason Yeah, credit 436 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: to Edling. 437 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 3: I mean, he did pretty much everything this team could 438 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 3: have asked him to do. But at the end of 439 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: the day, Sean was the fifth round pick. And this 440 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: is kind of the way I sort of saw this 441 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: thing playing out as soon as they signed Magoo, because 442 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: it's like, all right, Danny's twenty eight, Do you really 443 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 3: want to have him on the practice squad again this year? 444 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: If that goes, do you want to take a look 445 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: at somebody else. 446 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: I really thought it was going to take a hercu 447 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: lean effort for him to really use surp Clifford as 448 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: a rookie fifth round pick for that number two job. 449 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: But it also says that the Packers do have confidence 450 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: in Clifford to handle this, because if he did, if 451 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 3: they didn't. You could have waited another week with Danny, 452 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: you could have gotten through this Bengals game. I think 453 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 3: they made the ultimately, the decision that Clifford is going 454 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 3: to be, you know, a guy that we're dedicated to, 455 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 3: We're dedicated to see in his development, and we've seen 456 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: enough from Alex Magoo to validate no longer having Danny 457 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 3: here because it is tough. Man. 458 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 2: It's tough being. 459 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 3: Able to work in four quarterbacks, especially when everybody's healthy, 460 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 3: and especially when Jordan Love is going to you know, 461 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 3: require them on a reps that he does need during 462 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 3: a training camp. I'm personally very excited for these preseason games. 463 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be very exciting to see 464 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: what Clifford can do. It's actually interesting he gets to 465 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 3: play his first preson season game in his hometown of Cincinnati. 466 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 3: He said he'll have about twenty to thirty people there. 467 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: I'm guessing you'll have some people cheering for him. He 468 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 3: mentioned having some you know, Clifford number eight Jersey's walking 469 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 3: around there at the joint practices as well. So a 470 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 3: neat experience for a guy that used to be able 471 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: to go to Paul Brown Stadium head season tickets, I think, 472 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 3: he said his senior year of high school. So him 473 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 3: and his baby brother who's now at Penn State, when 474 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 3: he was in eighth grade, they went to quite a 475 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 3: few games together, really grew their relationship and love for 476 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: football that way. So for him to be able to 477 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 3: start that chapter of his career is very interesting and 478 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: very cool. But Alex McGoo is an amazing story too, Mike, 479 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 3: and a guy that was actually drafted back to back 480 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: picks with Atling in twenty eighteen has sort of risen 481 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: from the ashes to put together two impressive seasons in 482 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 3: the USFL to re earn another opportunity in the NFL 483 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 3: at twenty seven years old. And if you talk about 484 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: a guy that's gonna be hungry and motivated to show 485 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 3: that he belongs that those two quarterbacks together, I think. 486 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 2: Are going to make for a really good competition the 487 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: rest of the way. 488 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Well, very shortly here Wes, as a famous 489 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: head coach once said, we are on to Cincinnati, and. 490 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: The famous head coach is going to be here next week. Yeah, exactly, exactly. 491 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: One last thought for me though, what are you looking for? 492 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: And we'll talk more about the game, hopefully on our 493 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: next show. Technically, if everything goes okay, our next show 494 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: will actually be from Cincinnati. You'll be hearing from us near. 495 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: It will be next to each other. 496 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, perhaps perhaps we can get that worked 497 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: out as well. But with regard to the joint practice 498 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, what are you looking for? What are you 499 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: gonna have your eye on? For me, it's seeing Jay 500 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: or Alexander against Jamar Chase hopefully, and then I think 501 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: on the other side, it's seeing a woozy a the 502 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: number one cornerback for the Bengals, up against Christian Watson. 503 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: These will make for some interesting matchups because we don't 504 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: really know if we're gonna see those matchups Friday night, 505 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: but we very well could see them on Wednesday afternoon 506 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: on the practice field. 507 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know guys like t Higgins too, right, 508 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: Rasseill Douglas. I mean, there's a lot of opportunities and 509 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: matchups are gonna be fun to watch. Me personally, I 510 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: can't wait to watch the O line D line work. 511 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 3: We talked about how good the Packers young defensive line 512 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: has looked. Cincinnati historically has not had one of the 513 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: strongest lines in the football in terms of their O line, 514 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: So seeing and if maybe some of those successes that 515 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: that Slaton has had. You know, you talked about why 516 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: it's seen if those translate, does a guy like you know, 517 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 3: you know, these offensive linemen that I think have really 518 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: stood out. I thought Sean Ryan has put together a 519 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 3: good camp so far, Caleb Jones has looked great at tackle. 520 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 2: They'll get some reps there as well. 521 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: Very interested to see how that plays out for them, 522 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 3: and honestly kind of seeing how the offensive line rotation 523 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: is going to look. Maybe Dave practices in these things. 524 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 3: I don't know if him and you know, if he's 525 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: going to go or not. If he does great, you know, 526 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson, you know Sam Hubbard. They got some really 527 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 3: good edge rushers down in Cincinnati as well. But also 528 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 3: you know, where's Joash Shneiman, Where's Zach Tom How are 529 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: they looking at that competition? Because that's ultimately the thing, man, 530 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 3: is that when you get some of these position battles, 531 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 3: and you talked about it, you know, with the with 532 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: the John Owen story and everything that's going on with 533 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: him at safety right now, there's a trickle down here 534 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: where you want to give everybody an opportunity to win 535 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 3: the job. But at some point you do need to 536 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: start turning the clock towards the season. And where do 537 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 3: you feel most comfortable. Where's Jordan Love most comfortable? Where 538 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: is Darnell Savage in the back, and most comfortable seeing 539 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 3: when the rotation stop, regardless of whether or not we're 540 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 3: in Cincinnati practicing against the Patriots or the following week 541 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: back get ready for that finale against the Seahawks. When 542 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 3: the rotation, when the musical chairs starts to end and 543 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: they start to settle in. That's what I'm always interested 544 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 3: to watch. And for the guys who don't play in 545 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 3: this preseason game against the Bengals, that practice is going 546 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: to be really essential to understanding not only where they're at, 547 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: but where the direction of this team is at. Now 548 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: two weeks into this program and realistically, you know, four 549 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: months now into the Jordan Love era here in Green Bay. 550 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, well, my friend, we have a flight to catch, 551 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: so with that we will call it a rap on 552 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: this edition of Packers Unscript. You'd be sure to follow 553 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: all of our continuing coverage of training camp. Will be 554 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati for the joint practice the preseason game on 555 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: Friday Night. Be back here in Green Bay next week, 556 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: continuing with everything with the Patriots coming to town, so 557 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: we've got it all for you on packers dot com 558 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: for wes Im Mike. Thank you for tuning in everybody. 559 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: We will see you next time. 560 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 3: M HM.