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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: This is the Almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 3: It's a week of headlines in Bachelor Nation, and way

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Speaker 3: too many of them include me, which I'm not comfortable with.

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Speaker 2: I'm not used to.

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Speaker 3: But I think we got three of them this week.

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Speaker 3: That's got to be a record.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's one that doesn't really count because it happened

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Speaker 4: on our podcast.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, fair, yeah.

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Speaker 4: But are you ready to start with your interrogation here?

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Speaker 2: You can start, okay.

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Speaker 4: So the first hot topic is just the weirdest thing.

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Speaker 4: So over the weekend, Tom Pullman, who is like a

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Speaker 4: higher up at iHeart we see him occasionally at iHeart events,

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Speaker 4: he posted a picture of you, Lauren Lane, your former

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Speaker 4: experience E, and her now husband, Chris Lane, and it

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Speaker 4: was a piece of pictures and it was really weird

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Speaker 4: because it was like, this is the night that Chris

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Speaker 4: Lane met her his wife eight years ago.

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Speaker 5: And like it is and it would have been actually

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Speaker 5: relative and relatively maybe normal if he had poked fun

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Speaker 5: at the fact that you're sandwiched between and that they met.

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Speaker 4: And it's like he made fun of the fact that

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Speaker 4: that they met when you and her were still very

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Speaker 4: much together, but there was no mention of this. So

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Speaker 4: it's just awkward because you're just present in all the

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Speaker 4: pictures and it's almost as if they're pretending that you

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Speaker 4: don't exist. And you texted us right off the bat

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Speaker 4: after seeing this and being like is this weird? Is

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Speaker 4: it okay? And I feel weird about this? And then

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Speaker 4: it got weirder a few hours later. Can you tell

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Speaker 4: us your initial feelings? Because this is just Tom Pullman's Instagram.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a huge deal.

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Speaker 3: You know, he has quite a few followers, He's a

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Speaker 3: big he's a big deal at Iheart's.

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Speaker 4: At iHeart, But like he's not like a celebrity or

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Speaker 4: even a dealist celebrity or reality star.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so Tom Pullman has always and I

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Speaker 3: have always been very friendly and it's always been good

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Speaker 3: to see him at these events.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I took it as hey, this is I feel weird

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Speaker 3: about this that he's posting this because I thought it

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Speaker 3: put Chris and Lauren in a very awkward situation right

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Speaker 3: like these pictures I thought would feel weird to them

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Speaker 3: and would feel weird to them, and as a result,

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Speaker 3: I felt weird about that. I also just felt weird

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Speaker 3: that there was pictures of Laura and I together again, Like,

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen a picture of Laura and I posted

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Speaker 3: in a long time.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that he remembers that you guys were together?

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Speaker 3: I don't, because I don't think he's like a huge

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Speaker 3: fan of the show. Like I think he remembers it

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Speaker 3: being a night that we were all at Iheartfest, and

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Speaker 3: he has documentation of Chris and Lauren meeting, and he's

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Speaker 3: obviously still close with Chris because Chris is still putting

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Speaker 3: out music with you know, and going on iHeart and

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Speaker 3: so I don't think Tom even understood the connection maybe

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Speaker 3: of oh yeah, and at this time Lauren and been

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Speaker 3: the fact that Chris and Lauren were meeting and he

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Speaker 3: had it on, you know, with pictures.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and did he was he the one I'm looking

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Speaker 4: right now? Is he the one who posted a picture

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Speaker 4: of them reenacting their meeting?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, so just this weekend. The reason this came

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Speaker 4: up was because this weekend was iHeart Country Music Festival,

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Speaker 4: and Chris and Lauren were there. So he took another

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Speaker 4: picture with them, so he just kind of wanted to

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Speaker 4: be like here they are married eight years later. And

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Speaker 4: then a couple hours later it got way weirder. Chris

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Speaker 4: reposted Tom's posts and again, doesn't mention you. I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's like her husband now with and posted pictures of

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Speaker 4: her ex fiance. That's like a gutsy move regardless, let

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Speaker 4: alone to not poke fun at it. So what happened there.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm starting to get the feeling that, you know,

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Speaker 4: That's what I told you. I was like, they're not

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Speaker 4: you because like, I don't exists in the storyline.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I wasn't even like a hurdle.

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Speaker 3: I was just like there as like a as a

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know, initially I did. I texted the group. I

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Speaker 3: those moments actually where you don't know how you're supposed

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Speaker 3: to feel, honestly, and I've always had this kind of philosophy,

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Speaker 3: especially over the last you know, five years, maybe as

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Speaker 3: bit where it's been like, I'm really glad that they

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Speaker 3: met how they met, Like, yes, there was definitely pains involved,

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Speaker 3: somebody you cared about at some point in your life

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Speaker 3: And then you get to the point where're like, wait,

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Speaker 3: but it all worked out really beautifully, Like it just

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Speaker 3: wasn't like perfectly pretty through the whole thing, right, And

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Speaker 3: so I was like, I don't know exactly I'm supposed

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Speaker 3: to feel about it. And then I got a text

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Speaker 3: from Chris very nice, it's very nice of him.

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Speaker 4: Yes he did it within minutes of posting it.

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Speaker 3: Well he did, And I think, you know, I don't

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Speaker 3: know the mindset one hundred percent going into it, but

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Speaker 3: I do know that he probably based in the comments,

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Speaker 3: taking a jab at him. And as I've mentioned before,

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Speaker 3: I really like Chris. He's a great, dude, We've gotten

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Speaker 3: a golf together. I have nothing but respect for him.

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy that you know, he and and found

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Speaker 3: each other and they have a family together, Like, oh,

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Speaker 3: that's so good. And there's never been this like animosity,

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure he's saying I'm glad things are where

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Speaker 4: I mentioned one thing sure when I saw this screenshot.

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Speaker 4: He's the screenshot of your conversation with Chris, and I

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Speaker 4: saw that you guys had last texted on Wednesday, and

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Speaker 4: then it made a little bit more sense. He's like, oh, okay, well,

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Speaker 4: if they're chatting about golf every now and again, he

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Speaker 4: probably feels comfortable enough with Ben. But I think that

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Speaker 3: Don't know if well, I mean, I I don't think

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Speaker 3: he has to ask me for permission to how he

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Speaker 3: uses his own proprietary media, right, I mean if I

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Speaker 3: I'm getting involved in the comments. I think he was

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Speaker 3: probably like, hey, I just want to make sure Ben

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Speaker 2: Uh, And which is all I would ask.

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Speaker 4: Because you did comment underneath the picture before. No, No,

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Speaker 4: I did ask to comment after he texted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I did it after he texted because I was like, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I want everybody out there to know this is my

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Speaker 3: my mindset when it came to making a comment on it.

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Speaker 3: I want everybody to know that I can laugh at

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Speaker 3: this because I think all three of us involved in

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Speaker 3: you know, yeah, doing whatever they want to do in

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Speaker 3: and that I am definitely now like the fourth wheel.

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Speaker 3: When I initially thought I was very much involved in

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Speaker 3: that picture, I am. You can now you know, time

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Speaker 3: will now show that I am definitely the fourth wheel,

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Speaker 3: third wheel if anything, in that picture. And so it

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Speaker 3: meant a lot that he texted me and meant a

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Speaker 3: wanted to make a comment just so people knew that

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Speaker 3: I am fully behind, you know, their love story. However

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Speaker 3: I mean I still felt like.

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Speaker 2: Very like uh.

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Speaker 3: I just didn't know how to feel. I guess would

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Speaker 3: be the best way to say it. I didn't know

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Speaker 3: if I should comment. I didn't know if I should

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Speaker 3: like the picture. I didn't know if this was a

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Speaker 3: And what did you.

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Speaker 4: Write the comments? Whatever?

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Speaker 6: Right now?

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Speaker 4: It was very funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just said I had big, big plans for

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Speaker 4: A reference to this song, big big Plans that he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, number one, huge hit, massive hit. And then

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Speaker 3: I said, I knew I shouldn't let you two stand

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Speaker 3: remember that night very clearly, and I remember being like, Hey,

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Speaker 3: it's cool that Lauren's meeting Chris Lane. I know she's

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Speaker 3: a fan of Chris Lane. I know she likes his music.

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Speaker 3: This is cool, right, we get to do these kind

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Speaker 3: of things at these events. This is awesome, and so

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Speaker 3: I never thought anything of it until obviously the two

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Speaker 3: at that time I really expected things to work out

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Speaker 3: like they have. Yeah, again, I want to be very clear,

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Speaker 3: I am very glad things worked out the way they did.

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Speaker 3: And I really think the two of them are a

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Speaker 3: I think initially I was like, is this a shot

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Speaker 3: this just more of like a random thing that's happening.

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Speaker 3: And then when he texted me, I was like, this,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't mean anything ill will by this.

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Speaker 2: It's just I never really thought.

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Speaker 4: It was ill will. It's just like straight ignoring, and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's mine too.

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Speaker 4: I can get ignored a little awkward just to be like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know what, like at the end

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Speaker 3: of the day, at some point in my life, like

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Speaker 3: I will be ignored by most people, and that's what

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Speaker 3: I'm just getting used to it now, Like this is

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Speaker 3: Like you'll just see me and random picture and be

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Speaker 2: Like who's who's he?

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Speaker 4: That's a testament of like how long you have been around.

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Speaker 3: everybody to know now. And so Ashley as this divorce

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Speaker 3: announcement happened, you know, it was. It's been a fairly

439
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 3: like I would say, amicable process so far. This does

440
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 3: start to feel like things, especially some of the stuff

441
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 3: written that you'll break down, that things aren't as maybe

442
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 3: easy as what we've maybe seen publicly.

443
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 4: Right, and they're still living together currently.

444
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 2: That to me happens.

445
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 3: It happens in these you know, in divorces and breakups,

446
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 3: Like it's not uncommon to me when I hear this.

447
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 3: I feel for both of them because there's nothing that

448
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 3: I would rather not do than live with the person

449
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 3: that I've just like ended things with and that.

450
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 4: You're like going to court against.

451
00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 3: Like how do you do that? And I think they

452
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: live in like apartment and so they're like, you can't hide.

453
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm going to read a lot of these

454
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 4: verbatim since it is legal stuff and I don't want

455
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 4: to mess things up. So in May, court documents that

456
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 4: were obtained by s Weekly say that he requested an

457
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 4: emergency spousal support and the former bachelorette was requested to

458
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 4: cover at least seventy five thousand dollars in legal fees.

459
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 4: He claimed that she is using her marital funds to

460
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Speaker 4: pay for her own legal funds, but refuses to let

461
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Speaker 4: him access the money. Okay, what would be their marital funds?

462
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 4: Would that be money that was made after they got married? Yes,

463
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Speaker 4: because they don't have a prenup.

464
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Speaker 2: They don't.

465
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Speaker 3: I mean no, it doesn't sound like they have a prenup.

466
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Speaker 3: Marital funds are the funds that would have been made

467
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 3: after they got married. There is, you know, they both

468
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 3: are entitled to that at some level.

469
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Speaker 4: So she's using like probably a joint account to come

470
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 4: he's accusing her of using a joint account to cover legal.

471
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Speaker 3: Fees or just anything made. It doesn't have to be

472
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 3: a joint account. It's like anything made is up for

473
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 3: discussion in a diverse set of you know.

474
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Speaker 4: The quote is, I am informed and believe that Rachel

475
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 4: has been using our community property monies to pay for

476
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 4: her divorce lawyer and forensic accountant, while refusing to give

477
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 4: me access to any of the community property funds to

478
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 4: pay my divorce lawyer, my forensic accountant, or any of

479
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 4: my personal expenses. Okay, you want to break that down,

480
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 4: send that sentence down. So basically, if she's using money

481
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Speaker 4: that they have made post marriage, he should be able

482
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Speaker 4: to do the exact same. Yes, all right, And.

483
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Speaker 3: Now now it does vary by state to state, like

484
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 3: each state has different laws and rules on who's entitled

485
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Speaker 3: to what and how much. I think the outside of no,

486
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 3: the numbers and percentages here, what we can assume is

487
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: she's using money that was made post you know, them

488
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: getting married for these fine you know, for these expenses,

489
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Speaker 3: and somehow along the way he is not able to

490
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Speaker 3: get this money as well, so she.

491
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Speaker 4: Like has him locked out of the accounts.

492
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Speaker 2: Perhaps maybe he never had access.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, gotcha, Okay, So then it says I

494
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 4: placed this is you know from Brian. I placed my

495
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 4: career as a chiropractor on hold twice to move for

496
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 4: Rachel's career. These moves were detrimental to my chiropractic business,

497
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 4: while Rachel's income and success as a media personality has skyrocketed.

498
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Speaker 4: It says there's some cold quotes in here. It says

499
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 4: mids amidst Lindsay's success, they had an upper class marital

500
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 4: standard of living, as they dined at celebrity hotspots such

501
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,479
Speaker 4: as Nobu and Catch and traveled around the world, with

502
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 4: Brian noting that they frequently, if not always, a flu

503
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 4: business class and stayed in the fineness of hotels. It

504
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 4: says that Brian now claims to make thirteen hundred dollars

505
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 4: per month, which is less than his reoccurring expenses. His

506
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 4: reoccurring expenses, according to the document, says that he pays

507
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 4: six thousand, five hundred dollars in rent each month, one

508
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 4: thousand dollars in restaurant meals, fifteen hundred in groceries, and

509
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 4: twenty five hundred in entertainment, and his I don't know

510
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 4: why they robson here, but his wedding band is also

511
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 4: allegedly worth one thousand dollars, and he's seeking financial assistance

512
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 4: from Rachel to be able to relocate from their shared

513
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Speaker 4: La home. They are both still living together but avoid

514
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 4: each other. He also says that Rachel has put up

515
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 4: security cameras to monitor his comings and goings, without sharing

516
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 4: the viewing credentials of these cameras. I want to move

517
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 4: out of our family residents as soon as possible, but

518
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 4: maintaining our standard of living is not financially feasible at

519
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 4: this time. It does so that they have previously lived

520
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 4: in a luxurious a luxury condominium in West Hollywood before

521
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 4: buying a beautiful house in North Hollywood, which included them

522
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 4: having a landscape or a pool cleaner and a housekeeper

523
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Speaker 4: to maintain the property. Okay, so they've they've been living

524
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Speaker 4: the life and totally.

525
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Speaker 3: Go I just eight leftovers by the way, But.

526
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Speaker 4: Like I'm he's living off of thirteen hundred a month.

527
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 4: Like if he were to just be clean of her,

528
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Speaker 4: he'd be making thirteen hundred a month. So is he not?

529
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 4: What is he doing? Like he's not he's not working.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of things I could

531
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Speaker 3: assume here. I don't know if any would be true

532
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 3: or not.

533
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,479
Speaker 4: Okay, well, now that we've gone through all the quotes

534
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 4: of the legal documents, and you want to make your

535
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 4: assumptions allegedly, as would you. Williams used to say on

536
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 4: her talk show, and he.

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Speaker 3: Was alleged allegedly. I think here's what happens in a

538
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: divorce settlement. Right, So he is probably able to quantify

539
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: in a truthful way that he makes thirteen hundred dollars

540
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 3: a month. Now, what that doesn't mean what we don't

541
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 3: know about that is right? He probably has an escorp

542
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 3: so he runs his own small business as a chiropractor.

543
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 3: He's passing through probably a lot of expenses through the

544
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Speaker 3: es corp. So he might be bringing home at a

545
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: profit thirteen hundred dollars, but he's able to write off

546
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: a lot of food, his gym memberships, probably any type

547
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 3: of clothing that he wears because he's wearing at his

548
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 3: place of employment, and so he is able to write

549
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 3: those expenses off and show that, yes, as a profit

550
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 3: as a source of income, making thirteen hundred dollars, when

551
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: he's you know, probably doing a lot better than that,

552
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: but he's just passing it through his business. So that's

553
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 3: what I assume here is he's financially his company is

554
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 3: more successful than this. But it's just like anybody for

555
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: tax purposes, right, you write off as much as you

556
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 3: can and you cover, you know, you put it through

557
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: your business in a legal way, and then you don't

558
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: pay taxes on the revenue necessarily because you're showing a

559
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 3: massive amount of expenses.

560
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

561
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 4: It makes sense. But still to being betting and you're

562
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 4: saying that he's that's what he's like profiting, making making

563
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 4: like after all of his expenses, and which you are

564
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 4: saying is including food.

565
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: And I'm sure he can write off food like he

566
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: can write off his lunches. He can probably write off

567
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 3: most dinners because if he's going to dinner with a

568
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 3: friend who's also a client of his that's tax deductible,

569
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: he can write that off because he's he's entertaining a

570
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: client within that within his business world, and so he

571
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: you know, I know a lot of millionaires, Ashley, who

572
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: receive a negative income every year, so they're.

573
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 4: Not being taxed you way more aggressive.

574
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: I can teach you that too. It just has to

575
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: be offline. But yeah, so that's what I'm assuming is

576
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 3: happening here. Also, when you are discussing finances, you are

577
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: going to be overly dramatic when it comes to not

578
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 3: only what you need to be spending, but also what

579
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: you're making. And so you're trying, you're trying to go

580
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: as far on each level as lain as possible so

581
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: that you can settle somewhere in the middle, which will

582
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: be which both will be satisfied with. I don't know

583
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: if they'll actually be happy with it, but they'll be

584
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: satisfied with it and feel like, Okay, I want you one.

585
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: It's a negotiation, So they're at the start here, they're

586
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: going to be overly dramatic with both sides of it.

587
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 3: I've always been curious how standard of living is an

588
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: argument within this, because I feel like part of you know,

589
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: these big decisions like getting into vorces that your standard

590
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: of living has to change, and so I don't know

591
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: how the courts will view or how the courts view that, Yes,

592
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: your standard of living needs to say the same thing,

593
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: same way, like you need to be going to catch

594
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 3: and you need to be going to NOBU.

595
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Speaker 4: I don't get that six five hundred dollars in rent.

596
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: Well didn't they say that they bought a.

597
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: House, Yeah, must be mortgage.

598
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 4: So the mortgage, Like, yeah, you don't. You can live

599
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 4: a very nice life without spending sixty five hundred dollars.

600
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: Sure, So that's that's always a weird argument to me.

601
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 3: I don't know why the courts even justify it or

602
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: take that into consideration as standard of living, but they

603
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: obviously do in the state of California where this divorce

604
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 3: is happening. And then finally, what we're reading there, like

605
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: when it comes down into the wedding ring, they're they're

606
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: literally just looking at all of his assets, and so

607
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: they will, like a forensic accountant will literally go in

608
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 3: and see what kind of clothes he has and she has,

609
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: what kind of app sets they have to their name,

610
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: and you will get in a sense, your net worth

611
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: from that, and then they will start to then work

612
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: backwards and so they're just looking at every asset you have,

613
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: down to your pens and your paper in your office,

614
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: and how much of it you have and how much

615
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: value it has, and that will be on this line item.

616
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's a wildly long process. It's got to

617
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: be really frustrating because you're not only doing that with

618
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: that you're doing with furniture, you're doing with like everything

619
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: that you have under your name as a couple. They

620
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: will now have to value.

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Speaker 4: I know, like this is really interesting for us to read, right,

622
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 4: but it's very awkward for the couple to have this so.

623
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Speaker 3: Weird sat and they're living together. Goodness gracious, that seems

624
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: so weird.

625
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, it says.

626
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I think for a lot of people it

627
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: was shocking when they read that Brian is making thirteen

628
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: hundred dollars a month. There is more to that than

629
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: what meets the eye or so not lying. He's not lying.

630
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: I'm just sure there's a lot of pass through expensis.

631
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 4: Or what if he's just not working because he says that,

632
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 4: like the moves were a big detriment on there.

633
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: Maybe he's not. Maybe that's why I said. This is

634
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 3: all allegedly. I have no clue what I'm talking about

635
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 3: right now. This is all allegedly. He could not be working.

636
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: That could be very possible. Yeah, it just I would

637
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: assume he would. I always assume. I guess that he

638
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: would be working. Uh, we'll keep watching that. I mean,

639
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: it just now it feels like it's going to get messy.

640
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: There's no way that in the midst of a divorce

641
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 3: finances are an easy discussion, and it sounds like it's

642
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: not going to need any easier. Can we just note

643
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: for a second, though, that there's video cameras now up like.

644
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 4: Whyd and she's tracking He's coming and going like why

645
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 4: does that matter?

646
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: I have no idea what. I just need to get

647
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: out of this.

648
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 4: I'm living the life, I'm making the money. I'm the

649
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 4: sugar MoMA here like I, I don't care about where

650
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: you're going.

651
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just both one of them needs to get

652
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 3: out of there. That's my suggestion. That's my suggestion here

653
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: for them if this is almost get advice would be

654
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: like move out.

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Speaker 4: They're not in an apartment, so they are in house,

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Speaker 4: which I guess probably.

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Speaker 3: Next headline is this The Bachelor's Daisy Kent shows off

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Speaker 3: new boyfriend Thor an ATV ride.

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Speaker 2: This according to US Weekly.

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Speaker 4: I got to see Daisy this week. She made an

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Speaker 4: appearance at Audrey's for her charity. It was really nice.

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Speaker 4: I chatted with her a little bit about Thor and

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Speaker 4: the fact that his name is Thor, Like how wild.

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Speaker 4: Apparently they're the name Thunder was actually on the list

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Speaker 4: for his parents to name him and they compromise with Thor.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's okay for us to say that

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Speaker 4: they're very much dating now. And she basically publicly out

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Speaker 4: of the two of them on her Instagram. This week

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Speaker 4: she showed the two of them on an ATV ride room.

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Speaker 4: She captured the clip. I suppose it this on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: They met in college at the San Diego State University

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Speaker 4: and they reconnected after she left the show. They studied

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Speaker 4: abroad together with our producer Hannah, and what happened is

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Speaker 4: he reached out to her first, and it's just been

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Speaker 4: going really well. And they've been traveling all over recently,

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Speaker 4: including a trip with her family to Porto Vierta and

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Speaker 4: then a cabin in Utah. They also went to Stagey

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Speaker 4: Coach together and I remember her also posting like a

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Speaker 4: handholding picture this week.

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Speaker 2: Very sweet. Yes, Hannah, what do you know about Thor?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Goodness, I love Thor. I'm a big fan of Thor.

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Speaker 4: I studied as a Thor, like at all.

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Speaker 6: He does not Thor to me when I hear the name.

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Speaker 6: Thor is like this kind of big, scary guy and

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Speaker 6: he's like the nicest guy ever, would not hurt a bee, and.

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Speaker 2: He is like you.

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Speaker 3: They obviously when they started abroad, like you could see

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Speaker 3: the two of them being together, like there's chemistry between

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Speaker 3: the two of them.

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Speaker 4: Yes, they wet.

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Speaker 6: They were dating when we all studied at Brown Barcelona,

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Speaker 6: and they're very cute. And I'm in full support of

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Speaker 6: this relationship.

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Speaker 7: So I guess our question to you is if it

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Speaker 7: didn't work out before, then he shows interest again after

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Speaker 7: she's on the show, where is there?

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Speaker 4: Do you feel strong about the two of them or

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Speaker 4: do you feel like he's kind of the guy that

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Speaker 4: comes back into your life after she becomes famous and

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Speaker 4: very much wanted by not only Joey but by lots

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Speaker 4: of other men. That's such a question.

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Speaker 6: Actually, I just don't think that xes like xes are

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Speaker 6: exes for a reason. But I do know that it

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Speaker 6: can work sometimes. So I'm hoping that it works for

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Speaker 6: them and and they get and they get to have

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Speaker 6: this work out.

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Speaker 4: This time, we'll see.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, very happy, very appreciate your journalism.

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Speaker 4: Horrible journalism. Love it.

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Speaker 2: Uh So we got Daisy and Thor together.

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Speaker 3: We also have another relationship to launch here at the

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Speaker 3: Almost Famous podcast, Susan Knowles share she is dating a

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Speaker 3: man she met in Marshalls.

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Speaker 5: This.

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Speaker 3: If this isn't a Golden Bachelor's story, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what is.

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Speaker 4: This is the best story ever, relatable on so many levels,

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Speaker 4: but just yeah, most perfect for the Golden chapter. Susan

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Speaker 4: has met a man at Marshall's and which is a

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Speaker 4: little depressing because that means that she can't be the

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Speaker 4: next Golden Bachelorette. And she's like basically the names herself,

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Speaker 4: you know, I feel like she would have loved to

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Speaker 4: be the next Golden Bachelorette, and she's remained perhaps most

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Speaker 4: relevant of the whole team over there from that cast.

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Speaker 4: But let's dive into this relationship. So she's been on

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Speaker 4: a few dates with a man that she's met at Marshall's.

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Speaker 4: He bought a new home and he was going to

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Speaker 4: get some things that he needed and he asked to

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Speaker 4: take his selfie. He's I don't know how old. Oh

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Speaker 4: he's I don't know how old he is, But she's

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Speaker 4: she's sixty seven. She says, I can't go grocery shopping

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Speaker 4: without somebody recognizing me. And this is Philly, this city

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Speaker 4: of brother we love. We all know everyone here, and

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Speaker 4: that's that's what we've got right now.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the fact that they met in Marshall is amazing.

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Speaker 3: The fact that she's dating a man is amazing. She

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Speaker 3: is awesome, she's a lot of fun. I'm very excited

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Speaker 3: for her, and I'm sure she'll be talking about it

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Speaker 3: more and more throughout the next couple of months. But

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Speaker 3: she's dating again. And here's the thing. We've been around

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Speaker 3: a bunch of the women from the Golden Bachelor over

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Speaker 3: the last few months, and many of them have not

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Speaker 3: started dating again.

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Speaker 2: And so It's.

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Speaker 3: Really great for me to hear that one of them

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Speaker 3: is dating, because it's kind of going to be a

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Speaker 3: waterfall effect where now they all start to get back

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Speaker 3: out there again because they all want to.

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Speaker 2: That's the other thing.

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Speaker 4: We want one to meet it at a homes We

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Speaker 4: want one to meet a guy out a TJ Max,

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Speaker 4: another one at a ross.

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Speaker 2: I would throw I would throw in cracker barrel.

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Speaker 4: Cracker barrel would be cool.

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Speaker 2: That'd be fun.

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Speaker 3: And who knows, maybe the four o'clock happy hour night

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Speaker 3: at the clubhouse.

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Speaker 2: That sounds cool too.

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Speaker 3: Any Way, love can find love, even if it's at Iheartfest.

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Speaker 3: We're happy about it. We celebrate it here. That's a

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Speaker 3: famous podcast.

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Speaker 4: We got a full circle moment.

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Speaker 3: Right, isn't that special? That's been all the headlines we

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Speaker 3: have for you today. Goodness, gracious, there were some headlines.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back next week with more almost famous podcasts

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Speaker 3: and great episodes coming your way. Obviously, Caitlin and Bristow's

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Speaker 3: out there, Chris Soul's interview is now out there. We

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Speaker 3: have more interviews coming and we cannot wait for you

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Speaker 3: to listen. As I sign off here in Denver, Colorado.

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Speaker 3: It is currently a blizzard outside my house, and it

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Speaker 3: is May seventh. Goodness gracious, life is good. So until

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Speaker 3: next time, I've been Ben, I've Been Ashley.

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