WEBVTT - How Police Dogs Work 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:04.360 Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:13.240 dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:16.320 There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant and Jerry and the Stuff 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:20.759 you Should Know in the long running, never ending Law 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:27.800 Enforcement Suite. Boy's got to be close to dune. Huh. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:32.240 I think that every time. In fact, I had to check. 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:35.400 I was like, I could have sworn we had done 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:37.920 this one. No, but we didn't. I guess we just 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:41.400 did service dogs. We didn't service dogs or service talks 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:43.839 in general. To be these service talks are guide dogs. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:48.280 I don't remember. Remember that was a great, great one. 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:52.600 I always left talking about dogs. In fact, we should 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:55.800 just do one on dogs. Very interesting. I can't believe 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.320 we haven't. Yeah, it's pretty pretty fascinating, the history and 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:03.280 the breeds and how that all works, and so yeah, 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:07.720 this is about specific dogs more often than not, German 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:12.600 shepherds and Belgian malwaws. Don't forget about the beagle brigade. 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:16.080 Oh yeah, there's so cute, the cutest little service brigade 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:19.560 on the planet. Love little beagles until they start howling, 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.480 But other than that they're very cute. That's right, do 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:26.680 they howl more than most dogs. Beagles. No, but when 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:29.640 they do, they can howl. Okay, they're like a hound. 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.880 They remember the hounds. Yeah, my too. Um how at 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:36.280 the sirens they go by? Yeah, because it's like and 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.520 howling machine to the I love it though. I think 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.319 it's great, gotcha because it's over before you know it, 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.959 and it's I just like it. You have a beagle, 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:50.800 do you know? But they how Yeah? Most dogs how huh, 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.960 it's not like a beagle trade. I thought it was 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:58.400 beagles and hounds and bassa hounds blood. I grew up 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.880 with basset hounds. It's pretty great at your house. Yeah, 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:04.720 that was boh, he was awesome. He used to trip 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:09.440 on his ears. He's step on them, those poor dogs. Yeah, 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.120 that's back when I knew better and got like, you know, 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.799 I want this breed of a dog. Let's go buy 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:19.079 one now. You know you rescue the much from the kennel. 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.960 That's how you should get a dog. All right, I'm 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:29.919 off my soapbox. So, like I was saying, Malonois, German shepherds, labs, 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:35.959 police dogs and how and little um beagles mainly German 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.280 shepherds though, Yeah, from what I've seen well, apparently the 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:42.440 Belgian ones are pretty Um, I'm pretty sure I'm saying 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.960 it right. Malon Wis, Well, that's where it all started 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:50.799 in Belgium. Yeah, let's start with the history of police dogs, man, 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.440 because while they are pretty ubiquitous here in the United 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.560 States these days you always see like a car that 0:02:56.600 --> 0:03:00.240 says like canine unit or whatever. Um. They like to 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.120 release the dogs a lot these days on protests, which 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:07.679 is pretty disheartening. Um, it's actually fairly recent, at least 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.920 in the United States. Europe has been doing this fred 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:15.280 at all time. Yeah. The first recorded police dogs were 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:20.240 in France uh in the fourteenth century that guarded duck installations, 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:25.920 and then UH in eight London the London Metropolitan Police 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.960 Force first to use bloodhounds to work the Jack the 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.280 Ripper case. Really, man, A lot of stuff came out 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.560 of that case. Yeah, A lot of things like forensics 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.960 that we're using today still and shouldn't be came out 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.680 of that case. And they still couldn't catch them. No, 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:46.520 never figured it out. Did you ever see that? Um? Oh, 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.520 what was the guy from Night Rider's name? I can't 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.520 with the half what's his full name? Yeah, David Hassle 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.520 he goes by the though. Yeah, um, he did it 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:58.280 one where the Tower Bridge or the London Bridge was 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:04.160 um re built in at like um in Arizona. What's 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:08.920 that famous lake in Arizona, the resort like habits. Yes, 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:13.119 they rebuilt the London Bridge at Lake have a sou 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.880 and Jack the Rippers ghost came with it and started 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.880 killing everybody like a TV movie. I think it was 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.960 made for TV. It certainly has the production value made 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.919 for TV movie. And Hasselhoff is the police detective with 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.359 the bad attitude who's the only guy with the chops 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.480 to solve this case, and everybody thinks he's crazy because 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.039 he's like, it's Jack the Ripper's ghost. It was. I 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:35.400 saw it when I was a kid, and I think 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.520 it's on like Amazon Prime, so it's coming for free. 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.640 I don't remember what it's called, but it's on there. Man, 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:46.040 I gotta seek that one out. Uh. That's crazy. And 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:47.600 that was back in his night Rider hey day. I 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:51.040 guess yeah, he was clearly righting high pre Baywatch even 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.080 I guess yeah, Oh, I forgot he was on Baywatch. 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:57.120 Wasn't name I mean that's oh, he made his name 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.840 all over the place on stage screen. Yeah, now he's 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:07.440 just uh so Belgium in Ghent g h e n T, Belgium. Um, 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:11.000 they first started using about ten years later than London 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.880 in eighteen ninety nine, and they actually had a program 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:17.239 set up, Yeah, like the first real police dog program 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.360 and it was a big success. Uh. And in October 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:25.560 of nineteen o seven, New York Police Department Chief I 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.880 guess George Wakefield went to Gahant in Belgium and came 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.240 back with five dogs. They just followed him home. Started 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.520 using them in New York City in nineteen eight Yeah, 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:38.080 and then uh, New Jersey followed suit very quickly, and 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:41.320 so did Detroit. The thing is, all of these um 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:45.400 police canine units were disbanded within a few years because 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.640 they didn't know how to train the dogs properly. Yeah. 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.480 I think the thing I saw said, from nineteen fifty 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.840 one to nineteen fifty four there were no police dogs 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.760 in the United States, and then later in the nineteen 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.200 fifties they started coming back. In the nineteen seventies they 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:06.800 became really widespread as far as many municipalities having a 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.599 canine unit. Yeah. Um. And initially it was like, oh, 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:14.360 I need a police dog. You have a German shepherd 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.880 and uh, leave it to me in your will. That 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.520 was like a police dog arrangement for a while. And finally, 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:25.400 law enforcement agencies around the country Apparently two thousand one 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.040 set off a huge boom in demand for police dogs. 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.440 That's one of the big reasons why they're so ubiquitous today, 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:35.200 although they've been in use a lot longer than that. Um, 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.520 but in any small town now you're gonna find like 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:43.279 at least one canine unit post nine eleven. Right, So, 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.640 but at some point they figured out the ones that 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.400 they're doing in Europe, let's just import them from there 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.760 because they know what they're doing in Belgium and Holland 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.919 and in other areas where they have these long standing 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:58.239 police training programs where you can buy a certified dog 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:02.320 and then you act teach the trainer how to how 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:05.760 to deal with that dog, rather than the trainer training 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.839 the dog, because the dog already comes trained and ready 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.200 to go. Well, there's still a lot more training you 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.640 have to do once you get them over here. But um, 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.040 from what I read, it's like bucks to buy the 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:20.040 certified dog and then another tin grand to train them. 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:24.440 In the United States, Yeah, but they pay for themselves. Well, 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.480 they do because they're usually paid for with drug money 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:32.000 that has been seized sometimes by um by drugs that 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.040 have been sniffed out by police dogs. So the police 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.960 dogs are generating income to bio police dogs. Among other 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:44.600 things yea, and fat doghouses and great treats like the 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.440 frozen ice cream treats that dogs love so much. I 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:51.240 bet canines get those. Why do they use dogs? One 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.360 good reason is because their sense of smell is about 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:58.320 fifty times more sensitive than the humans, which that you 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:01.960 don't need any more reason than that, Right, they can smell. 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:05.600 They I think this is the grabster wrote this one, right. Uh. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:10.600 He actually interviewed a canine team, the human part of 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:14.800 that team and New York and he said that his 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:18.760 dog Breaston found a shipment of marijuana and heat sealed 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.960 milar bags inside plastic line crates sealed with foam silent 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:30.000 inside a closed storage garage with a cold Yeah, half asleep. 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:33.400 So that's that's a little bit. Uh, that'll tell you 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.480 a little bit about the sensitivity of a dog's nose. 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:39.400 It's pretty amazing. They don't get confused. You can you 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.760 can bury your drugs and coffee or wrap them and 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.880 perfume and the dog will still go no, no, I 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:50.000 know it's in there. Let's try now, let me bite 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:54.120 your crotch. And the reason they are they knows as 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:59.800 oars since was they had something like um, like old 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:04.200 three receptors where we have something like five million. Yeah, 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:09.040 we're dummies in the smell department. So um. Dogs are 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.520 also used not just for sniffing stuff out, whether it 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.520 be drugs or bombs or whatever. They're also used as 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:20.520 patrol dogs UM, which basically means that they're attack dogs 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:25.120 at the ready. UM. And apparently just the very presence 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:29.800 of a dog can keep a physical confrontation from taking 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.320 place or escalating. Oh yeah, I've seen it on cops. 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.320 When they get that dog out, you most often see 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:39.640 the dude go okay, I'll get where do you want me? 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.520 Because they've got that dog barking and they don't. I 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:45.800 don't know. It's weird that being beaten down by a 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:51.680 human isn't enough, but let dog is is scary. You know, Well, 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.080 you can't really reason with the dog. It can't be 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.319 like enough. Yeah what am I saying? I don't know 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.200 if you can reason with the CoP's keating me down there. 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.680 So with the um with the dog, actually they fall 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:10.720 into this um spectrum of escalation of violence that's allowable 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:15.040 among law enforcement and actually come after the baton, but 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:19.960 before the cop draws this gun. Right, So baton doesn't work, 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.200 you can release the dog. The dog doesn't work, you 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.760 can pull your gun, and then if that doesn't work, 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:30.120 you can pull the trigger. That's the continuum of violence, 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:38.040 continuum of force. I'm sorry, big difference. Let's just call 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:43.439 it violence. Um, they're not lulla buying people to sleep 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:44.840 and putting them in the police car, you know what 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:48.960 I mean? Uh, Like we said, it's usually German shepherds. Um. 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:53.160 Sometimes they use labs now labrador retrievers. Uh what is 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.960 that called again? You said it once before, the Belgian 0:10:56.400 --> 0:11:00.360 malonois melonoi and of course the beagles would we'll talk 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.120 about here in a bit. They're all well suited to 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:10.240 police doggery work and they can uh get them all 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.200 over the place. Like you said, sometimes they're donated. But 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.320 by and large, if you want a really cracked police dog, 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.920 you still need to go to Europe. It's where it's 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.400 worth the money. Yeah, apparently because if there are issues 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:26.680 later on in court, about the dog. Apparently the first 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:30.800 thing defense attorneys will say is your pay post please? Yeah, 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:32.839 and like they want to see this dog's background. As 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.600 far as the Supreme Court's concerned, which we'll talk about later, 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.240 is of two thirteen. That's all they need to say. Uh. 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.480 And the reason they get these dogs from europe um 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:45.240 is because their standards are just way more strict and they, 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.720 like you said, basically like let's just take this dog 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:52.000 and train them like this dog has been bred from 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.680 this lineage, right, I don't like that that light patch 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:59.080 on that dog's ear. Kill it. Don't say that, well, 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.960 they don't breed it, yes, kill it's genetic line right. 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:06.120 As far as Richard Dawkins is concerned, they might as 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.040 well be saying kill it, neuter it. Well, and that's 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.360 a big thing. As they leave these mail dogs they're 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.240 usually male dogs, and gave them unneutered because that will 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:19.720 keep that aggressive streak intact um, which took them to 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.000 the cop. It's sort of the same thing. You want 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:26.680 the best of the best, right right, Yeah, I mean ideally, yes, 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:30.079 this is all like in ideals and and hypotheticals, it's all. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.160 It all makes utter sense. And I think that's how 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.400 it works out most of the time. Yeah, they there's 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.640 not any cop can go be a canine cop. It's 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.120 you required. You're required to be at the very top 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:45.920 of your class, very strong, energetic personality, very outgoing, willing 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.920 to work very long hours. It turns out I did 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.480 not realize this. Yeah, well, well we'll talk about in 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.320 a minute. But they say sixty hours a week and 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.160 they and that's just working. The dog lives with you. 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:02.360 It's your dog, seven dude. Yeah, so they have such 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.600 a tight bond. You were that dog's handler for its 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:09.000 whole career. Yeah, and I think the time these cops 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:12.640 keep these dogs after they're retired as well, Oh, I 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:14.640 would guess. So, yeah, it'd be hard to be like, 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.760 all right, go live with someone else. Good luck in 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.320 your retirement. Al Right, let's take a break here and 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.679 we'll talk a little bit about dog basic training right 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:48.880 after this. So, Chuck, the first thing that I'll police 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:53.920 dogs go through is obedience training. Kind of basic and simple, 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.960 but it's also probably the most important training they go through, 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.920 especially when they're patrol dogs, because they have to listen 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:06.000 to their handler or else things can go um really bad, 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:09.160 really fast. Because their handler is going to tell them 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:12.920 when enough is enough. Uh and if the dog isn't 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.840 understanding this and doesn't have that basic obedience, then you 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.760 can get in big trouble. Yes, as a as a 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:23.200 police force and as a canine unit. Lawsuits arrest. Well, 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:26.080 I'll probably not arrest um Ed points to dog. Can't 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.200 you end? Point? Now you can't? Um? Well, I guess 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.920 you can. In a way the dog catcher arrests dogs. 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:39.000 Um I thought that was an apt analogy. Uh so 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.760 Ed points out or Ed dispels a myth here actually 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:46.440 where um I guess a lot of the dogs that 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.800 come over from Europe take commands in their native language, right, 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.920 which makes total sense. But apparently there is a myth 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:58.280 that the reason why is because they don't want people. 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:02.000 Besides the handler acts ofly or purposefully setting the dog 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:06.120 off to attack by saying the word not true. No, Apparently, 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.480 it's just it's easier for the dog to retain the 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.720 training it had and for the handler to just learn 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.120 a few words in a foreign language. Yea, it makes 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.960 total sense. You're not gonna get a German shepherd that's 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:22.440 fully trained and say all right, now, forget all that 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:26.480 because I want to say sit and not zitsen zits 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:32.680 in is um sit in German plots, plots has laid down. 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.600 My friend Clay has a German shepherd he bought from Germany, 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:43.440 and uh he gives commands in German, which is pretty interesting. Yeah, 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.240 you hear a lot of plots around his dog. I 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.360 grew up with German shepherds. A couple of them. Plots 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.960 is more efficient because it's one syllable and lay down 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:58.360 as two. Yea makes sense. Germans efficient. Uh what else 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:01.920 they can get into specialty training? They need to be uh, well, 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.680 they need to have endurance and be super agile and 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.520 be you know, physically fit dogs. But then they go 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:12.560 through specialty training like whether it's drugs or bombs. Um. 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:14.640 I know arson is a big one now to have 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:19.119 them seek out accelerants. They can even track people, um, 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:23.160 which I didn't quite get and getting how they do it, 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.040 but I don't understand how they actually do it well. 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:28.640 When I've seen it on cops, it's been like they 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:32.400 have a piece of clothing from a guy and then 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.080 there's like he's in this attic in this house somewhere 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:37.800 to find him, so they have to have something to 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.720 to scent the dog. Yeah, I think, so, Okay, that's 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:42.440 I did. That's what I didn't get. I mean, like, 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.320 if it's just some guy who ran, then the dog 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.640 wouldn't really be of any use right now, Like just 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:51.880 a description of the purp wouldn't help. So um. This training, actually, 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:56.840 the secondary training or specialty training, is actually really simple 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:00.760 and kind of clever and fun. It is so the 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:04.120 first thing the dog learns to do is to love 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.880 a towel more than anything else on the planet. It's 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.399 it becomes its toy, a towel that's been washed to 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.560 remove any kind of scent, so the towel doesn't have 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.040 its own scent, and the dog learns to love it 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:18.680 by playing tug of war with it, right, And then 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.399 in very short order, the cop gets his hands on 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.399 a little bagging of pot and rolls it up with 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.879 the towel and they keep playing tug of war, and 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:30.080 now the dogs like, hey, my favorite toy smells a 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:34.679 lot like pot. Okay, Now the next step is for 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:38.840 the cop to hide the towel filled with pot, and 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.280 the dog finds it, and then they play tug of war, 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:45.640 and eventually the dog will learn that anytime it smells pot, 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.120 it thinks it's toy is hiding, and it goes after 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.800 and starts digging in the place where that it smells pot. 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:55.280 And hence the dog has just sniffed out pot, which 0:17:55.320 --> 0:18:00.760 means that drug sniffing police dogs are playing, which I 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.639 didn't realize until pretty awesome. They think about when you 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.560 see a dog clawing at the trunk of that guy's car, 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:10.760 he's like, my toys in there, my toys in there. Uh. 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.240 And then they will replace that pot with all manner 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:16.280 of drugs to cross strain the dogs, so they can 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:20.200 basically they'll stuff that suitcase that um that Hunter Thompson 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:27.040 steels please conce into a towel. And yeah, they can 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:31.560 also do like explosive components too sure for bombs and 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:35.760 then accelerants in the case of arson. Arson sniffing dogs 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.680 are a big thing now. That's all the rage. They're 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.760 so hot right now. And there's two ways that can alert. 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.119 The aggressive alert is what we were just talking about, 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:46.720 is when they think there's that toy and they're just 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.199 clawing and pawing and trying to dig it out of 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.560 your suitcase or wherever. And then there's the passive alert, 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.000 and that is when you don't want a dog clawing 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.640 all up in your junk and you need a little 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:02.920 more delicate situation, which is the case with the Beagle Brigade. Yeah, 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.159 they just come and they sit next to the person. 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:09.360 That's how they alert. That's the cutest alert alert. Yeah, 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:13.119 And that's the kind of cut their toward the person. 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:17.760 The Beagle Brigade works with the U. S d A 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:22.520 and they sniff out illegal produce. So you might have 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:24.720 seen them at the airport here and they were like 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:31.119 little um best. Yeah, but not bulletproof fests, but like 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.480 patrol dogs to you. In fact, they have I think 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:38.359 ed mentioned a fundraiser. They had to get bulletproof fest 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.440 for the dogs at this one, and they like people 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.480 just flooded them with money, right, you know, because it's 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.719 not cheap. No, I have I have no idea how 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.560 much bulletproof vest is for Kena and unite do you 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:51.480 you just know the one that you have? How much 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:57.000 that cost? No? I don't know. My guess is a 0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:01.000 bulletproof fest is probably a couple of grand Okay, I'm 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.800 just throwing that out there. That's what i'd pay, That's 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.760 what you pay, well, my friend, you would be taken 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:11.800 for a ride because I a canine tactical mole vest 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:18.720 for a hundred. That's a dubious and apparently Miami Heat 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:22.320 star Ray Allen has a side business where he supplies 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:26.719 canine protection and safety products. And this is a segment 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:31.560 called Josh reads his phone on the air. You've done 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:35.760 that before. Don't even play holier than now. Yeah, you're 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.080 looking at the name of the impossible the other day 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.440 while I was yapping. That's like the only time I've 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:45.280 ever done that. So, uh, let's talk about a day 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:49.679 in the life of a dog, a canine dog. I 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:52.960 didn't know this before. They even go on patrol from 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:56.320 four pm to midnight. They're gonna be going to high 0:20:56.359 --> 0:21:01.720 schools and going down the hallways sniffing ackers. They're gonna 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.879 be sniffing businesses. If you need a business sniff, you 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.040 can call them and say, hey, I'd like to pay. 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.760 I guess you can pay, right, you just requested. I 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:15.080 guess the request. The cops are like, it's an investment 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:19.320 in a bust, right, good point. Uh, some days you 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:20.880 have to go to court and then the dog has 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.199 to go to court as well. And then eventually they 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:25.320 will actually work their shift. And this is why they 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:27.919 worked such long hours because they're busy during the day 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:29.840 and then they go to work at night when they 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:35.080 need to be banging the streets and you're so tough, 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:41.240 but uh. And when they're on the streets, what they're 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:46.199 doing is um just like any other cop. Basically, you know, 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:48.080 you do a lot of sitting around and waiting on 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:50.520 calls to come in. Then when that call comes in, 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:52.840 you might be sniffing out a car. You might be 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:56.800 chasing a purpose. Yeah, you could be doing both. Yeah, 0:21:56.840 --> 0:22:00.000 the dog that is um and when you are snoop 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.280 in a car if you're a dog. The Supreme Court 0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:09.240 ruled that a dog alert is enough for probable cause 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:12.040 for a police search like that in and of itself. 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:17.240 So if the dog alerts it's trainer, who is or handler? 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:19.919 I should say, who's the only person on that scene 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:25.000 who can read the dog's behavior necessarily um that then 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:30.800 that officer has a um a right to search that car. Yeah, 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:34.560 And that's very delicate matter because there's a lot of 0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:39.399 claims of false signals that a cop will make the 0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:43.240 dog react just so they can Basically that the canine 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:48.600 dog is a prop used to get search whenever they want. Yes, 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:52.760 and those some people say that those are um, well, yeah, 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:57.920 and I guess we'll talk about it later. The false positives, yeah, well, 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:00.920 that'll be quiet for now. We can talk about no. Well, 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.440 false false positives are the thing that you, um are 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:08.800 most concerned with with police dogs because they usually do 0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:12.080 not miss drugs the presence of drugs when they are present. 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:15.400 Police dog, when it's brought around to like a car 0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:18.400 or something like that, it knows the score. It knows 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:20.399 that it's supposed to be looking for its toy, so 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:23.879 it's gonna start sniffing around. Um. The thing is is 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:28.240 thinking about sniffing its toy. We're sniffing for its toy, 0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:31.400 and that's this whole thing. It's entirely possible that it's 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:35.080 going to detect the presence of its toy, meaning drugs 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:39.679 are there when it's not there, um, and then it'll 0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:43.280 give it an alert and then a full search will begin, 0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:47.359 which is not a problem when that actually results in 0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:53.840 the the the discovery of drugs. But that apparently happens 0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:57.840 generously speaking, only um like forty six percent of the 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:02.480 time they find drugs when a police dog says there's 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:05.240 drugs there, which means like fifty percent of the time 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:07.800 the police dog is saying that there's drugs there when 0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:10.000 there aren't, which means a lot of people innocent, A 0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:13.160 lot of innocent people get their their property searched. Yeah, 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:17.240 and there's a Chapel Hill, North Carolina law professor named 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:20.080 Richard Meyers who in two thousand and six wrote an 0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:22.960 article on the George Mason Law Review where he basically 0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:27.600 said the controlled testing to get UH numbers on these 0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:31.080 dogs is terrible. Um. And he he did some math 0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:35.040 based on something called the Bayesian probability formula where he 0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:37.600 said he thinks it could be as high as eighty 0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:42.520 five percent failure rate or false positive rate. Yeah, supposedly 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:46.560 there was UM in Florida. There were some dogs that 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.480