1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: First Date is follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at advocuslaw dot com. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: Jade is on the phone today for a first date 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Ty. 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 2: So we're about to help her out see if we 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: can get him on the phone and find out why 7 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: he's ghosting and maybe get her another date. But first 8 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: let's find out about the date. Jade. Hello, Hey, Jade, 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: how long has it been since you heard from Ty? 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: It's been four days, which might not sound like a 11 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: lot to some people, but that's a lot. 12 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 3: For me, okay, because you've just never gone four days 13 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: without hearing from somebody. 14 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like people just physically get fafted me 15 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: pretty quickly, so I'm feeling really insecure about it. 16 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: How many times have you tried to reach out to 17 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 3: him in the four days? Did you try it all? 18 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 4: Well? 19 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: No, because when we left off, he said he would 20 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: call me, so I felt like it might feel desperate 21 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: to text again. 22 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: All right, So tell us a little bit about your date. 23 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 5: Then. 24 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: The date was really awesome. We actually met filed back, 25 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: like almost probably all us ten years ago through mutual friends, 26 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: and I thought he was really cute, but like nothing 27 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: really went down at the time, but we recently matched 28 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: on Hinge and we did like a cute little walk 29 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,279 Speaker 1: date and we had some coffee and it just felt 30 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: really natural walk. 31 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 4: It's so nice. 32 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really sweet and cozy, and I just 33 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: felt like I'd done him for a long time, which 34 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: I guess I do, but like I felt a deeper connection, 35 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, and we even like extended the date spontaneously, 36 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: which I feel like is always a good mutual sign. Yeah, 37 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: we went out to like a sports bar. We got 38 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: some snacks and stuff. She did actually have to like 39 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: dash because he has a daughter and she had texted 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: or maybe the Babylon had texted about like the daughter 41 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: being sick, so he did have to dash, which I 42 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: didn't mind. Totally get the responsibility of being a parent. 43 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: But after that, you know, I wanted him to know 44 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: that I'd really had a really awesome time and felt 45 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: so comfortable with him, and I was interested in it 46 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: going somewhere. He texted me, you know, thanking me for 47 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: my understanding, and I was like, yeah, no problem. I 48 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: hope your daughter feels better soon. I want to do 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: this again. And he was like cool, I'll call you. 50 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: And that's kind of where it's been for the last 51 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: four days. 52 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 3: So he studied call and he did it, and maybe 53 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: things got wrapped up with this kid. 54 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe. I just feel like call is really specific, 55 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: like intention to follow up, and so I'm definitely freaking 56 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: out a little bit. 57 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: Did anything happen on the date, like, other than that call? 58 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 3: Was there any awkward moments? Was anything said that could 59 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: have made things a little bit weirder? Like, you know, 60 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 3: was there any flags? 61 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: I don't think there were any flags. I mean again, 62 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: like he did we really abruptly and I ended up 63 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: paying the check. But again, I totally didn't mind. It 64 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: seemed like a genuine emergency. 65 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 3: Okay, So that's not like he goes out and he's like, Okay, whoops, 66 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: my kid's sick, thanks for dinner. Yeah, I would be 67 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 3: the worst. 68 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: Scam of all time. But what if it is also 69 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: scam boy? Yeah? 70 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: Do we know for sure? 71 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: He's the worst thing I've had happen on a date. 72 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 3: So, but do we know for sure that he's a dad? 73 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, just because like we have mutual friends 74 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: and whatnot, and so I've heard about. 75 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 4: The child before the date. 76 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: So, okay, I'm pretty sure it's a real hope. 77 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: Okay, is there any I mean, anything else you can 78 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: think of that might be a reason that he's ghosting you. 79 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean maybe if he just like 80 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: changes mind and you or maybe I'm just like totally 81 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: crazy and really thought it went well and he was like, 82 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: oh my God, get me out of here, and he's 83 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: trying to be like polite about it. 84 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,559 Speaker 4: I feel like sometimes. 85 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: People think it's nicer to ghost, which I do not 86 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: agree with. 87 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: But okay, well, we'll try to figure out for you 88 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: our song come Back, and then call him and see 89 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: if he'll tell us why is ghosting you, and maybe 90 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: get you another date if you still want one. Okay, Okay, 91 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: all right, we'll play a song come Back, and get 92 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: your first Day follow up next if you're just joining 93 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: us for today's First Day follow up. Jade is on 94 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: the phone and she's getting ghosted by a dude named 95 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: ty We're about to call him see if he'll tell 96 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: us why he's ghosting and maybe get her another date. 97 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: Before we do that, though, Jad, why don't you refresh 98 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: everybody's memory about your day with thy Yeah. 99 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: Tyan actually met a while ago, never really got together. 100 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: We matched on pinge, went on a cute walk, and 101 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: even like chose to extend a date for lunch. He 102 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: had to run because his daughter was sick, which was 103 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: no big deal for me, but we lost off with 104 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: him planning to call me. And now it's been four days, 105 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: so I'm just wondering if maybe something changed his mind 106 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: or Yeah. 107 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: Well and you did end up paying for the dates, 108 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: so we need to make sure it's not a scam 109 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: just to. 110 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: Get a free day. Are you ready for us to 111 00:04:58,839 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: call him? 112 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 113 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. 114 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 4: Hello. 115 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: Hi, man speaking to Tie? Please, this is speaking Ty. 116 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: What's up? 117 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 5: Man? 118 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: How are you? This is a Jewbel from a radio 119 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 2: show called The Jewbel Show. 120 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the whole show is here. My name is Nina. 121 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Victoria. How are you say there? 122 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 4: I'm doing pretty good? Did I win something? 123 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,559 Speaker 2: Not sure yet? Do you ever listen to the show? 124 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 4: I have a couple of times. 125 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of first day follow Up? No? 126 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 4: I haven't caught it. 127 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: A First day follow up is a segment with you 128 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: on the show where if you go out with someone 129 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: and then you end up ghosting them, that person can 130 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: email us to get you on the phone and ask 131 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: why you're ghosting them. So you are currently ghosting somebody? 132 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: Do you know who that is ghosting anyone that? 133 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: No, I haven't. I can't think I'm ghosting anybody right now. 134 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 3: Have you gone in any dates recently? 135 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 5: I went on a date just like a couple of 136 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 5: days ago with a girl that I actually kind of 137 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 5: really enjoyed. But I I think it would be way 138 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 5: too soon for her to even think. 139 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: I guess here have you messaged back to her? 140 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 4: I'm actually a dad and I got a kid that's 141 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 4: been sick. She knows that my kid was sick. 142 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 5: Because I had to leave the day and we spoke 143 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 5: the following day. I thought, I'm going to call her back. 144 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 5: But my kids not in the best condition. My baby mama. 145 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 4: Is also sick. 146 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 5: I'm taking care of my kid and working from home, 147 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 5: and you know, just treading water. 148 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: Oh wow, super Dad, we're talking about Jade. Is that 149 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: who you're talking about? 150 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 5: Wait? 151 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 4: Is it Jade? 152 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 5: Because I would not want to have left her feeling 153 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 5: like that, because I did have a great time with her, 154 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 5: and I definitely do want to see her. 155 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 4: I've just haven't been able. 156 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: To come up for air at all these past three days. 157 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: Wow, Sheade probably would like to know that Jade's on 158 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: the phone and has been listening. 159 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 4: Hi a wow, Hey jid Hi, how are you doing? 160 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: Not the greatest, but okay? 161 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: How are you? 162 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, taking care of a sick kid, trying to 163 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 4: people work just didn't buy right now. 164 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know what happened, so I kind of 165 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: just thought maybe you weren't that in to me and 166 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: didn't know how to say it. 167 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 5: Oh no, Hun, I'm just kind of in a unique 168 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 5: place where, you know, I really had an amazing time 169 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 5: and I actually would love to see you again. It's 170 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 5: just I got a kid and I got to make 171 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 5: sure she's okay, and her mom's also sick, so she's 172 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 5: been with me since that date, and that's the reason 173 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 5: that you haven't heard. 174 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: Best with you. No, my daughter's ball taking care of 175 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 4: the kid. 176 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 5: We're just good, copare so we're friends, So I don't 177 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 5: mind getting some extra time with my daughter. 178 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess when you said I'll call you, I 179 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: just kind of thought you would call me sooner, And 180 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: since I didn't know what was going on, I definitely 181 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: was wondering if maybe, like, yeah, you change your mind 182 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: or like things aren't wrapped up with your daughter's mother 183 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: and was totally fine. I just would rather know the 184 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: truth than like being hanging out wondering. 185 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry that you felt that way, babe. That 186 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 4: was not my infession at all. It's just I've just 187 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: been really just busy with my daughter and Ken are well, 188 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: and that the plan wilts to give you a fall 189 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 4: because you know, I think it's probably just a cold, 190 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 4: and yeah, it's probably just gonna be a couple more 191 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 4: days and then you can have my full attention. That's 192 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 4: kind of where I wanted to be, was more available. 193 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 5: I didn't want to schedule another day than then after 194 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 5: pail last minute because one of your time. 195 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 2: Oh that's sweet boring, Okay, Oh. 196 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 4: I think sweet? 197 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: You know why I think this is sweet? 198 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 4: I think it's no. 199 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 3: I think that Jade's feelings are super valid. I know 200 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: four days doesn't seem like a long time, but if 201 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 3: something goes really good, you can't help but question things 202 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 3: about yourself. So and especially if you're dealing with somebody 203 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 3: with kids, like, can I ask you if it's about me? 204 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: Or is this about you? 205 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: Because I kind of understand, but I can't help but 206 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: feeling a little bit insecure, you know what I mean. 207 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 3: So this communication is actually really sweet. 208 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I totally get that, and I'm now 209 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: like a little embarrassed that I'm doing in secure. 210 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: I think it's normal. Ty, would you like to go 211 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 2: on another day with Jade? Will pay for it. 212 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 4: I would love to see you day great, Okay, doctor 213 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 4: on go. 214 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 2: So then you can say I'm just kidding, that's not right. 215 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: You have to go to your kid always. 216 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to see you again. 217 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: I guess I just want to make like. 218 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: One hundred one thousand, one million percent shirt. Things with 219 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: you and your daughter's mother are like totally over, no 220 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: chance you're moving on. 221 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you can rest a shirt on that fact. 222 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 5: We're pretty much just, you know, platonic friends. We're good 223 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 5: co parents, but there's definitely not a spark like the 224 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 5: one that I feel like you she's super hot, but 225 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 5: we're honestly just fronts. 226 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well, congratulations Jade, you got another date. 227 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: Honesty is really happening. 228 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: You will the first date follow up