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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

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Speaker 2: Phone numbers are consistently bad right now. I mean they

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Speaker 2: have moved downward, even on issues that he ran on,

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Speaker 2: like cost of living, immigration, and he wants to project

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Speaker 2: strength and joy or something.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know his joy, just strength.

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Speaker 3: This is this isn't an age old tactic.

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Speaker 2: In white houses, right, We're going to tell everybody everything's great.

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Speaker 2: I think one reason he specifically brought us in at

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Speaker 2: the Atlantic and included for the second interview Jeff Wilberg,

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Speaker 2: the editor in chief, it was a little bit of

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Speaker 2: game respects game. He had said in a second true

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Speaker 2: social post that Signal Gate was somewhat successful, and again

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Speaker 2: that's another window in to the president.

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Speaker 4: And also when we were there, he.

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Speaker 2: Was in people who know him know this, yet the

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Speaker 2: capacity who was charming. He was charismatic in his goal

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Speaker 2: in that moment was to win us in most specifically

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Speaker 2: Jeff over.

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Speaker 5: Our old relationship with the United States, a relationship based

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Speaker 5: on steadily increasing.

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Speaker 6: Integration, is over.

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Speaker 1: We are over.

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Speaker 7: We are over the shock of the American betrayal.

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Speaker 1: But we should never forget the lessons that we have many,

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Speaker 1: many other.

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Speaker 8: Options than the United States.

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Speaker 1: To build prosperity for all Natis.

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Speaker 9: This is a hostile in political act by Amazon. It's

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Speaker 9: not a surprise because, as Reuters recently wrote Amazon Amazon

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Speaker 9: has partnered with a Chinese propaganda arm. So this is

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Speaker 9: another reason why Americans should buy American.

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Speaker 10: If we build this world from the lovet it died,

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Speaker 10: got it died, then God will build this world. Love's unbelievable.

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Speaker 11: I mean, we've had an organ transplant for Republican party.

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Speaker 11: The new organist Paris has not been part of the

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Speaker 11: body Republican. I think what's on deck here and what

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Speaker 11: will help reverse this trend in the polling? Trade deals

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Speaker 11: announcements are good peace deals.

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Speaker 12: Less chaos is good.

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Speaker 11: Tax deal, lower taxes is good budget deals. Looking like

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Speaker 11: the Republicans are a competent governing party, so it's time

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Speaker 11: for let's make a deal and that will I think

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Speaker 11: help people see the future, see the trajectory changing from

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Speaker 11: something that they're nervous about is something where they can

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Speaker 11: see we had a question about because they have a

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Speaker 11: clear plan. That would tell you yes, they have a

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Speaker 11: clear plan. Because it looks like they're announcing deal after

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Speaker 11: deal after deal. That's what they have to do.

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Speaker 12: Next.

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Speaker 13: That's what will reverse the dangers that my family experienced

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Speaker 13: in Ukraine. The dangers that we saw in Nazi Germany,

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Speaker 13: especially in the earliest days of Nazi Germany, are the

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Speaker 13: dangers that we need to react to now. If we don't,

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Speaker 13: things will get much much worse. And so we've got

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Speaker 13: to raise alarm bells to everybody.

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Speaker 6: It's a five alarm fire. Everyone.

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Speaker 13: It's time to step out of your comfort zone and

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Speaker 13: step out into the streets and speak up and make

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Speaker 13: your voices heard, because that's the only thing that we have.

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Speaker 13: That's the power that we have, and we can stop

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Speaker 13: them in their tracks because you know what, Republicans in

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Speaker 13: Congress don't want to lose reelection were.

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Speaker 14: Again, Well, what I would say is that this comments

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Speaker 14: if nothing else gooding could be construded and desid of violence.

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Speaker 1: This is not a media failure. This is a failure

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Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 15: And I just sort of the virtue signaling that some

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Speaker 15: people have done to try to say that the media

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Speaker 15: missed this story.

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Speaker 1: They didn't miss this story.

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Speaker 15: Media's got plenty of things to attack them for. And

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Speaker 15: there are MSNBC and CNN and pundits that absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Carried water for Joe Biden. But they're not journalists. The

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Speaker 1: former strategist that carried water for Joe Biden.

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Speaker 15: This is an attempt by some to virtue signal and

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Speaker 15: it's this horrible sort of pitting different news organizations against

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Speaker 16: This is Congressman Shrikanadar. Donald Trump has already done real

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Speaker 16: damage to our democracy. It's time we impeached Donald J.

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Speaker 16: The court said the wrongfully deported kilmer Garcia must be

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Speaker 16: allowed to return and receive due process. Trump he ignored it.

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Speaker 16: He ignored the Constitution, He ignored the very checks and

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Speaker 16: balances that keep our democracy in ket.

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Speaker 17: When you start walking through one hundred announcements with one

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Speaker 17: hundred different countries, and every single one of those we

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Speaker 17: end up with a better trade deal than we have

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Speaker 17: right now. I mean, how can anybody say that's not

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Speaker 17: a good deal for this country.

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Speaker 5: Every day is a battle for your mind, raging information

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Speaker 5: coming from every angle, but the will to the sieve,

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Speaker 5: fear not. You found the place for truth, the voice

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Speaker 5: of a generation that still has the will to believe

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Speaker 5: in the greatest country in the history of the world.

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Speaker 5: This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot here, we.

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Speaker 1: Go on Hello everybody, Charlie Kirk here radio stations across

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Speaker 1: the country. We are live in the Bitcoin dot Com Studio,

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Speaker 1: one hundred days of the Trump presidency. And if you

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Speaker 1: are getting a little bit uneasy, oh I wish there

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Speaker 1: was more deportations. Where are the arrests? Where this ie

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Speaker 1: get it? We're here to air all those grievances. In fact,

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Speaker 1: today is a day where we understand that it can

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Speaker 1: be festivuts every day here on the Charlie Kirk Show,

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Speaker 1: the airing of grievances. But what I will not tolerate

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Speaker 1: is whining, complaining, because all we have to do is

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Speaker 1: look to the north. All we have to do to

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Speaker 1: look is to look to our neighbor to say, you

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Speaker 1: know what, we have it pretty good here, we have

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Speaker 1: it pretty awesome. We have a president and administration every

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Speaker 1: day that is fighting for the American people, and they're

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Speaker 1: getting things together. They are reconfiguring the US government to

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Speaker 1: represent our country. Because boy, what happened last night in

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Speaker 1: Canada is awfully depressing. We're gonna be spending on us

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Speaker 1: the entire hour talking about what's happened in Canada and

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Speaker 1: contrast it with what's happening here. There's a fair amount

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Speaker 1: of people that just want to try to find something

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Speaker 1: wrong with President Trump's administration. Oh, we shouldn't have deported

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Speaker 1: that guy. A lot of should's. But time out. Guys,

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Speaker 1: understand that we could have a prime Minister Carnee. We

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Speaker 1: could have a catastrophe our hands. Canada, being our neighbor

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Speaker 1: to the north, has indulged the last forty years in

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Speaker 1: liberal government and their decline as steep I'm sorry, sixteen years,

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Speaker 1: huge explosion of housing prices, a incomprehensible immigration flood, hard

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Speaker 1: the world. Not a joke. And interestingly, the election last night,

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Speaker 1: which was the election of mister Carney as Prime minister,

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Speaker 1: the patterns of what we're seeing in Canada are eerily

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Speaker 1: similar to that in America. Get this. Canadians over the

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Speaker 1: age of sixty and over are by far the most

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Speaker 1: likely to vote for Carney because they thought he was

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Speaker 1: good at dealing with Donald Trump. For younger voters, very

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Speaker 1: similar to here in America. They wanted to reduce the

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Speaker 1: little bit more candid, because whenever I say anything about

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Speaker 1: baby boomers, I get thousands of nasty emails, as if

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Speaker 1: people must be defensive of their generation, like I'm attacking

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Speaker 1: or family. It's very bizarre to me. But how about this,

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Speaker 1: Canadian baby boomers don't care about the future of Canada. Now,

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Speaker 1: if I get criticism from that statement, I will shrug

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Speaker 1: my shoulders and laugh. You would think the way the

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Speaker 1: West was built was with a intergenerational social compact. I,

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Speaker 1: at age sixty, am going to sacrifice for future generations.

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Speaker 1: I might not have the life that I want, but

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Speaker 1: is how you build a country. That is how civilization

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Speaker 1: improves when you have delay gratification. It's how you leave

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Speaker 1: a legacy. And we saw a window into the perverse

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Speaker 1: terrible during the lockdowns. During the lockdowns, we saw a

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Speaker 1: we will sacrifice the youth to save the old mantra

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Speaker 1: very troubling. Few people isolated this and pinpointed this, and

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Speaker 1: And to be honest, President Trump's issuing of tariff against

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Speaker 1: It's a million people a year. Canada is literally falling apart.

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Speaker 1: but space and lower incomes in America. It is a choice,

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Speaker 1: whatever that means anymore. They have long wait for medical procedures,

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Speaker 1: And you look at now one hundred days, one hundred

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Speaker 1: you should be saying your prayers of gratitude today, Thank

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Speaker 1: you Lord for saving us, Thank you Lord for giving

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Speaker 1: us the grace because Canada, we are going to be

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Speaker 1: And I've always said to reporters or people on campus, Charlie,

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Speaker 1: want Canada as our fifty first state. Why would we

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Speaker 1: irreversible death spiral, held captive by environmentalism, mass migration, critical theory.

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Speaker 1: It is every dynamic, imaginable packaged. And we have Ezra

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Speaker 1: here to tell you it's really bad. And I love

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Speaker 1: the ever present Canadian optimism of Ezra. But now we

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Speaker 1: look at what President Trump has done and what's happening

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Speaker 1: in our country, and it goes to show that this

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Speaker 1: right wing revolution is not happening in every state, every country,

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Speaker 1: but it is happening in ours. And we made it happen,

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Speaker 1: largely because free speech is our birthright, and everyday Americans

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Speaker 1: the polling that has happened within the first couple of days,

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Speaker 1: the first one hundred days of President Trump's term, shows

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Speaker 1: only two percent of Trump voters regret their vote, despite

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Speaker 4: Openly independent journalists, podcasters, social media influencers, content creators, and

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Speaker 4: So with that said, today is one hundred days. There

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Speaker 4: We have a mass deportation campaign of illegal aliens underway.

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Speaker 4: And if you look abroad on the world stage, the

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Speaker 4: Thanks for coming to the Influencer briefing. I look forward

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Speaker 4: to taking your questions in Deborah, why don't you kick

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Speaker 20: Congratulations one hundred incredible days and over the first one

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Speaker 20: goals that as cover cutting government spending with DOJE. What

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Speaker 4: The first answer that comes to mind, Nebra is definitely

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Speaker 4: were just talking about continuing to send blank checks to

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Speaker 4: continue funding the fighting and the killing. This war has

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Speaker 4: been a meat grinder. Young Men are dying, women and

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Speaker 4: children are dying as a collateral result of the military conflict,

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Speaker 4: and the President wants to see it end as quickly

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Speaker 4: as soon as possible. And I can tell you watching firsthand,

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Speaker 4: he has exuded a tremendous amount of effort into this war.

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Speaker 4: He's getting frustrated with the amount of effort this has taken,

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Speaker 4: and he's made that clear to both sides, but he

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Speaker 4: remains optimistic that we can get this done.

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Speaker 8: Brendon, I was wondering if you'd indulge me in a

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Speaker 8: quick round of Trump trolling or Trump truthing.

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Speaker 4: Sure, let's do it.

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Speaker 8: Good, love it, Greenland joining.

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Speaker 4: America, definitely, Trump truthing, coming a fifty first state Trump

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Speaker 4: truth thing all the way, and the Canadians would benefit greatly.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you that eliminating the irs, I think

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Speaker 4: that is an optimistic goal and the President, so I

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Speaker 4: would say, we're on the side of truthing there for sure.

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Speaker 4: And the President again wants to see tax cuts, and

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Speaker 4: he wants to see this massive revenue that we can

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Speaker 4: gain from tariffs as well, which will create the external

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Speaker 4: revenue service. So that's a definitive goal for sure.

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Speaker 8: And most importantly Trump eight.

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Speaker 4: Trump trolling, although the hats are flying off the shelves. Yes,

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Speaker 4: link ahead.

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Speaker 22: So one thing I've noticed in the first hundred days

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Speaker 22: is that the White House is crawling with kids. You

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Speaker 22: have a young, beautiful baby boy. There are babies everywhere.

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Speaker 22: There's so many young folks on staff who have kids.

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Speaker 22: But the last four years under Joe Biden, parents are

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Speaker 22: really stressed and ravage. They had to take on two

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Speaker 22: or three extra jobs. Depression rates were up, suicide rates

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Speaker 22: were up. Your a very high profile young mother who

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Speaker 22: seems to juggle and balance it all beautifully. What advice

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Speaker 22: do you have young parents out there who are starting

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Speaker 22: their careers, having kids, building families, and trying to find

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Speaker 22: that balance so desperately.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's a great question, and first to the

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Speaker 4: heart of your premise, It's true the President has empowered

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Speaker 4: not just me as a young mother in this role,

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Speaker 4: but there are so many new moms and dads on

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Speaker 4: our senior staff in the West Wing, but also across

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Speaker 4: the entire administration. There are working moms and dads who

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Speaker 4: are owing our country public service for President Trump while

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Speaker 4: raising young families. And the President really empowers us to

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Speaker 4: do that, and I commend him for that. He doesn't

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Speaker 4: get enough credit for it. But as for the President

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Speaker 4: is implementing policies every day to uplift young families and

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Speaker 4: young people. He talks so much about young people and

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Speaker 4: talk directly to young people so much on the campaign trail.

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Speaker 4: It really I think inspires him when he is around

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Speaker 4: young people and a young audience, and he wants to

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Speaker 4: restore the American dream for the next generation, not just

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Speaker 4: our generation of young folks, but our children and our grandchildren.

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Speaker 4: What does that look like? Home ownership, the ability to

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Speaker 4: afford a home to live, and to have a good

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Speaker 4: paying job. That's part of this effort to onshore jobs

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Speaker 4: because you have an entire generation going to these incredibly

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Speaker 4: expensive and liberal higher education universities, coming out saddled with

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Speaker 4: debt and then unable to get a good paying job.

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Speaker 4: The President wants to put an end to that so

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Speaker 4: that young people can provide for their families and truly

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Speaker 4: live the American dream. So to young people around the country,

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Speaker 4: the President hears you, he sees you, he loves you,

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Speaker 4: and he wants to uplift you. And all of the

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Speaker 4: policies he's implementing every day are to provide a more

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Speaker 4: prosperous and safe and free America for future generations. You're welcome,

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Speaker 4: Sure Hi, you too, so much for the time, Sureman.

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Speaker 23: Tacking off of Link's question about young people, one of

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Speaker 23: the most pressing challenges for gen Z right now is

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Speaker 23: the lack of home ownership. As of twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 23: I believe the median age is thirty eight years old

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Speaker 23: of first time home buyers, which is a hindrance to

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Speaker 23: starting families for a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: How does the Trump administration.

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Speaker 23: Plan on tackling this in the next four years.

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Speaker 4: It's a major issue, as you mentioned, that's directly impacting

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Speaker 4: young people and young families, and the President is i think,

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Speaker 4: tackling it head on already. The reason that homes have

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Speaker 4: become so unaffordable is because of the massive inflation crisis

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Speaker 4: caused by the previous administration. Not just the cost of

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Speaker 4: a home, but everything that goes into building a new

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Speaker 4: home went up and through the roof right. We also

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Speaker 4: saw mortgage rates reach incredible highs under the pre US administration.

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Speaker 4: So a few things the president wants to bring down

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Speaker 4: the cost of living, which he is already doing as

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Speaker 4: I mentioned in my opening remarks, which will increase our

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Speaker 4: supply of homes across the country. But he also wants

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Speaker 4: to bring down mortgage rates and interest rates to make

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Speaker 4: it easier for young people and all people to borrow

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Speaker 4: money to take out those loans to buy your first home.

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Speaker 4: And so we got to increase the supply, bring down costs,

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Speaker 4: and bring down interest rates and mortgage rates. And by

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Speaker 4: the way, those are all things the President successfully did

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Speaker 4: in his first term. When he left office, inflation was

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Speaker 4: a record low one point four percent. Interest rates mortgage

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Speaker 4: rates also hit record lows in his first term. So

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Speaker 4: this is a proven economic formula that works. It takes

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Speaker 4: time to get there. We are in the process of

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Speaker 4: the Golden Age. The President and the admin Are slashing

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Speaker 4: regulation every day, cutting red tape, cutting costs, and we

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Speaker 4: need again Congress to pass those tax cuts to put

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Speaker 4: more money back in people's pockets so they have greater

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Speaker 4: purchasing power as well.

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Speaker 24: You're welcome, sure, and we go with independent women and

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Speaker 24: wmal Oh great. We love working with the administration to

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Speaker 24: really tout policies that work for families and work for

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Speaker 24: small businesses in this country. Next week, a Small Business Week,

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Speaker 24: and I know that the SBA will be championing all

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Speaker 24: the small businesses, the millions in this country, almost half

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Speaker 24: of which are women owned. But I'd love to find

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Speaker 24: out what the President feels about independent contractors who are

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Speaker 24: not typical W two employees, not nine to five workers,

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Speaker 24: but who hang their own shingle. You know, they're ten

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Speaker 24: ninety nine workers. We saw the Biden administration really try

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Speaker 24: to crack down on that small business entrepreneurial spirit, and

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Speaker 24: we're hopeful that the administration would overturn what the Biden

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Speaker 24: administration did and maybe even work with Congress to pass

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Speaker 24: some lasting changes, codify some lasting changes that would protect

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Speaker 24: you know, your ability to be self employed, your ability

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Speaker 24: to be a small business owner.

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Speaker 4: Well, the President is a businessman at heart himself, right,

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Speaker 4: He's a real estate developer. And I think that's a

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Speaker 4: large reason the American people elected him the first time

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Speaker 4: and the second time, because they trust in him, and

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Speaker 4: small businesses are the backbone of our American economy. I

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Speaker 4: come from a small business family myself, and the President

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Speaker 4: knows what small business families need and independent contractors need,

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Speaker 4: entrepreneurs need, you need less government in the way. You

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Speaker 4: need less regulation, You need low energy costs, low taxes,

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Speaker 4: a low cost of living, a low cost of goods.

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Speaker 4: And that's exactly what the President is focused on doing

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Speaker 4: while simultaneously effectively leveraging tariffs to protect our middle class

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Speaker 4: and our working class and our manufacturing base. You look

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Speaker 4: at our auto industry, think about Michigan. It used to

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Speaker 4: be the heartland of the auto industry of the world.

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Speaker 4: It was the auto capital of the world, and unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: so many of those jobs have gone overseas. And so

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Speaker 4: the President wants to protect good paying jobs here at

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Speaker 4: home and unleash the might of our economy for small

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Speaker 4: business owners and that removes that includes removing red tape

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Speaker 4: and cutting taxes. And as for independent contractors and what

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Speaker 4: the President would hope to do with Congress, we'll definitely

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Speaker 4: check back in on that and gets you an answer

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Speaker 4: because it's an important question. Welcome, sure, I will.

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Speaker 12: Lip to the National Pulse. You kind of gave us

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Speaker 12: days in what would the next steps look like though

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Speaker 12: if we don't reach an agreement by say this summer,

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Speaker 12: And also, can you give us an update on the

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Speaker 12: rare earth minerals deal with Ukraine, and is there any

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Speaker 12: kind of response from the administration to Greenlandic Foreign Minister

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Speaker 4: Sure to your first question about the critical minerals deal,

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Speaker 4: the President is confident that will be signed. Ukraine needs

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Speaker 4: to sign it. They should sign it. It's not just

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Speaker 4: good for the United States to recoup the billions of

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Speaker 4: tax dollars we've spent and onshore some of those critical minerals,

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Speaker 4: but certainly it's good for the Ukrainian people when this

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Speaker 4: war is over, to rebuild their country. It's an economic

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Speaker 4: He's confident that they will. As for what it would

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Speaker 4: look like later down the road. I don't want to

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Speaker 4: get head of the president, obviously, but again I will

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Speaker 4: reiterate he's increasingly grown frustrated in the amount of time.

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Speaker 4: Our Secretary of State recently said, you know, there's not

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Speaker 4: much more time or effort the United States has to

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Speaker 4: give to this effort, and so we need both science

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Speaker 4: to come to the table to negotiate. As for Greenland,

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Speaker 4: I hadn't seen those comments. If true, I'm sure they

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Speaker 4: are certainly an interesting strategy to cozy up to communist China.

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Speaker 4: Greenland needs the United States of America. We subsidize their

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Speaker 4: national security and their defense. And the President has rightfully

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Speaker 4: pointed out the great strategic importance that Greenland serves for

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Speaker 4: not just our national security and economic interests, but for

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Speaker 4: our country, for the world as a whole. And we

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Speaker 4: can't allow Chinese or a Russian influence to continue to

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Speaker 25: You talk about the importance of a stock market all

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Speaker 25: time high, specifically in relation to the midterms, and seems

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Speaker 25: like a lot of folks when Trump was elected, they

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Speaker 8: He really cares about that. He uses as a measurement

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Speaker 8: of the economy. It's gone down but still up over

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Speaker 8: the last twelve months or so.

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Speaker 25: So how much of that is playing into some of

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Speaker 25: the economic policy decisions.

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Speaker 4: I think the President has spoken on this. He said

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Speaker 4: He trusts in his economic agenda in formula obviously, and

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Speaker 4: you know Wall Street made out very well in President

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Speaker 4: Trump's first term. President Trump also wants to look out

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Speaker 4: for Main Street and do what's best for both. So

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Speaker 4: I think the President right now, his main focus, what

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Speaker 4: drives him to make decisions is what's best for the

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Speaker 4: working class Americans, for the American worker, for the small

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Speaker 4: business owner, for American families. And he's trying to correct

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Speaker 4: the wrongs of the last several decades, not just the

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Speaker 4: last four years with the economic and inflation nightmare caused

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Speaker 4: by the Biden administration, but of the unfair trade practices

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Speaker 4: that have ripped off our country for a very long time. Look,

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Speaker 4: the stock market goes up, it goes down. But President

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Speaker 4: Trump has a goal, he has a vision, and he's

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Speaker 4: remaining very much committed to that. Thank you so much

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Speaker 4: everybody for joining today. We're heading off to Michigan tonight

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Speaker 4: for a big rally, so I am sure we'll see

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Speaker 4: all of your amazing creative content on social media later.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be a great speech and maybe you'll

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Speaker 4: get a Trump dance too, So thank you so much

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Speaker 4: for coming today. It's a pleasure to have you here?

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 19: That was White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt hosting a

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Speaker 19: briefing for influencers there at the White House. She talked

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Speaker 19: about the first one hundred days of President Trump's presidency.

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Speaker 19: Of course, he will be heading off to Michigan this

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Speaker 19: afternoon on this ninety ninth day of his presidency. Tomorrow's

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Speaker 19: actually the one hundredth day. She also talked about passing

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Speaker 19: the biggest tax cuts in US history as soon as possible.

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Speaker 19: Congress is working on that right now. Also going on

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Speaker 19: saying that the potus is optimistic about a potential deal.

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Speaker 19: She was also asked then a question about young people

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Speaker 19: in this country and how the administration is reaching out

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Speaker 19: to young people. She said specifically that the President hears you,

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Speaker 19: he sees you, and he wants to uplift you. Also

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Speaker 19: saying that the President and the administration in general are

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Speaker 19: working to create opportunities for home ownership for young people

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Speaker 19: in this country. So it was a wide ranging interview,

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Speaker 19: wide ranging news conference for influencers there at the White House.

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Speaker 19: Will of course continue to cover all the happenings at

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Speaker 19: the White House We'll also have live coverage here on

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Speaker 19: Real America's Voice as President Trump makes his way to

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Speaker 19: Michigan for a rally celebrating the one hundred days or

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Speaker 19: his first.

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Speaker 7: One hundred days in office.

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Speaker 19: All of that coming up later on this afternoon here

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Speaker 19: on Real America's Voice. But for now, let's get you

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Speaker 19: back to the Charlie kirkshow.

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Speaker 1: This has been a live special report. We now join

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Speaker 1: our programming already in progress. Rather hopeful actually about the

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Speaker 1: future of Canadian politics. Based on your analysis and your interpretation,

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Speaker 1: just kind of let's take a step back. What does

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Speaker 1: an election look like? What was Is there a lot

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Speaker 1: of money being spent? How much money was spent on this?

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Speaker 1: Was it campaigning across the country? I know that it

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Speaker 1: was a rather truncated or a rather compressed election season,

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Speaker 1: So educate us on what Canadian elections look like.

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Speaker 26: Canadian elections, there's a five week period where everyone goes

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Speaker 26: full guns. Now, obviously everything before that there sort of

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Speaker 26: have the campaign in mind, but there's an intensity of

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Speaker 26: those last five weeks. In Canada, the government has nationalized

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Speaker 26: leaders debates, so there was an official government run leaders

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Speaker 26: debate halfway through and typically people really pay attention to those.

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Speaker 26: But you know, there is a lot of money being spent.

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Speaker 26: Canada's about one tenth the size of the US and

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Speaker 26: we probably had one tenth the size of the budget.

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Speaker 26: But the campaigns of their campaign jets and it's all

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Speaker 26: about iding your vote and get out the vote. Obviously

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Speaker 26: a lot of the campaigning is digital, so it's very

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Speaker 26: much like an American campaign. In fact, the Liberals typically

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Speaker 26: have campaign advisors from the Democrats. Let me tell you

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Speaker 26: a quirky thing, Mark Carney and another candidate named Evan Solomon.

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Speaker 26: They're basically run by a globalist lobby group in New

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Speaker 26: York called the Eurasia Group. It's sort of weird how

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Speaker 26: that it's in New York City, but it was sort

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Speaker 26: of running the campaign for the Liberal Party in Canada.

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Speaker 26: Justin Trudeau's former mentor works at the Eurasia Group, and

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Speaker 26: that's where Mark Carney, the Prime Minister, his wife works.

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Speaker 26: Like this little office in New York is basically being

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Speaker 26: the puppet master for Canada. It's a little bit weird.

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Speaker 26: There's a lot of foreign interference in our election. I

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Speaker 26: should mentioned in the last election, the Chinese Communist Party

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Speaker 26: was found to be interfering in eleven different districts.

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Speaker 6: This election. It was even worse.

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Speaker 26: In fact, one candidate had to step down because he

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Speaker 26: was a Chinese Canadian candidate who said, if you kidnap

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Speaker 26: my opponent and take him to the Chinese consulate, you'll

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Speaker 26: get a million dollar bounty. I know what I said

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Speaker 26: just sounded insane, but he said it three times, and

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Speaker 26: finally he resigned as the candidate to be replaced by

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Speaker 26: another Chinese Communist Party candidate, a police officer, Chinese Canadian

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Speaker 26: police officer who would attend Chinese Communist Party events in

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Speaker 26: his police uniform, sing Communist songs like the Hand of

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Speaker 26: China is very apparent in our politics. In fact, our

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Speaker 26: new Prime Minister, Mark Karney, you may know that he

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Speaker 26: was the chair of Brookfield Asset Management, which is like

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Speaker 26: a slightly smaller Blackrock. He's met with she Jimping, He's

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Speaker 26: done huge business deals in China. He took a quarter

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Speaker 26: billion dollar loan from China. So we have a real

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Speaker 26: China problem in Canada. There are a great law oil

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Speaker 26: freedom oriented Chinese Canadians.

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Speaker 6: Fighting against that.

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Speaker 26: But the Mark Carney government is as pro China as

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Speaker 26: you can get. Let me throw one last thing at you, Charlie.

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Speaker 26: Canadian politicians were sort of heckling back at Donald Trump.

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Speaker 26: I know you didn't hear it because it was for

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Speaker 26: Canadian domestic consumption. It was sort of can you prove

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Speaker 26: who is the toughest to stand up to Trump? That

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Speaker 26: was a campaign thing to juice the turnout that we

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Speaker 26: talked about, those sense of the boomers and seniors. But

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Speaker 26: last night, after the votes were counted, Mark Carney, the

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Speaker 26: new Liberal Prime minister, the former World Economic Forum board member,

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Speaker 26: the former chair of Brookfield Asset Management, he takes the

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Speaker 26: stage for his acceptance speech. Campaign's over. Now now he

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Speaker 26: has to think like a prime minister. He goes extra

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Speaker 26: hard at Donald Trump. He says that Canada and the

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Speaker 26: US will never have the same relation again. He will

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Speaker 26: reorient Canada if he gets his way, he will realign

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Speaker 26: us with communist China. So it wasn't just a campaign trick.

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Speaker 26: It wasn't just a way. His anti Americanism wasn't just

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Speaker 26: a tactic. He deeply believes in it. This guy is

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Speaker 26: the ultimate globalist. I think I told you before his

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Speaker 26: three passports. He has a home in the United Kingdom,

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Speaker 26: a home in New York City. I don't think he's

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Speaker 26: actually been back in Canada for more than a few weeks.

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Speaker 6: I flew to the Isle of Man two weeks.

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Speaker 26: Ago because he had set up a shell company with

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Speaker 26: a straw Man director there. I don't even know what

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Speaker 26: country he pays his taxes in. We are dealing with

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Speaker 26: someone who truly is the World Economic Forum.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, just just though, and it's just I

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Speaker 1: have the thirty seconds. We'll pick it up after the breakdough.

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Speaker 1: All that is true, then, how was the Canadian polity

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Speaker 1: so bamboozled by this guy? Is it because you don't

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Speaker 1: have free speech and you don't have alternative media to

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Speaker 1: be able to get this message out.

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Speaker 26: There's some anti Americanism in Canada. Our media is so

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Speaker 26: concentrated it would be as if PBS was larger than

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Speaker 26: all other media combined. That's our CBC state broadcaster. And

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Speaker 26: I say again, despite all that, Pierre Polyev did exceedingly well,

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Speaker 26: it just wasn't good enough given the France style trick

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Speaker 26: you mentioned where they all unified behind the lefty. It

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Speaker 26: was close though, the Liberal only beat the Conservative by

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Speaker 26: two percent. So don't write us off yet, Charlie That's

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Speaker 26: why I'm not gloomy. Glass half full. I think Poliev

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Speaker 26: will win it within the next year and we'll be

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Speaker 26: smiling again.

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Speaker 1: Okay, stay right there, as I have a lot more

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Speaker 5: Better researchers than the CDC. Yeah, may not be saying much.

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Speaker 5: It's the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 1: Okay, everybody, welcome back. We have EZRA levant in just

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Speaker 1: the second. But on Thursday, we'll be at the University

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Speaker 1: of California, San Diego. That's UCSD. We are closing strong

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Speaker 1: in the beautiful state of California. So let's go through it.

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Speaker 1: UCSD Long Beach. Then we have San Francisco State University,

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Speaker 1: and then you see Riverside that is for California. Stops

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Speaker 1: in the next week and so no excuse if you

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Speaker 1: guys are in California. You know people in California and

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Speaker 1: you want to come on by, we'd love to see you.

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Speaker 1: These events are going super viral. They're making a big

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Speaker 1: difference in the macro cultural war, in the macroculture war,

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Speaker 1: making a massive and major and significant difference. And globally,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're getting messages from people in France and

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of Canadians that follow us. Free

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Speaker 1: speech is our birth and I really want to drill

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Speaker 1: that down with Ezra after the break. I hope all

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Speaker 1: of you understand that the fact that we have free

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Speaker 1: speech has allowed the Trump movement to ascend, has allowed

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Speaker 1: the conservative movement to deepen, and Canada does not have

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Speaker 1: free speech like we do, Ezra. They're trying to arrest

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Speaker 1: him like every other day. And from that we should

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Speaker 1: thank the Lord. Free speech is our birthright. Email us

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Speaker 1: freedom at Charliekirk dot com. Stay right there, Okay, everybody,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. Email us freedom at Charliekirk dot com. So, Ezra,

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Speaker 1: I know I mentioned this previously, but I want to

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Speaker 1: reiterate it. Can you talk and speak to the importance

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Speaker 1: of what you wish you had as far as alternative

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Speaker 1: media and free speech? What if Canada had the So

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Speaker 1: Canada is like the size of California. So justin California.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if you had free media, open media, alternative media,

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Speaker 1: influencers and laws that allow you to do those things,

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Speaker 1: what would Canada look for.

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Speaker 6: It would be completely different.

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Speaker 26: We are constantly fighting for even basic freedom of speech

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Speaker 26: and freedom of the press, and it is a very

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Speaker 26: costly battle because we do not have the First Amendment.

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Speaker 26: We have something that's sort of a photocopy of a

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Speaker 26: photocopy of a photocopy version of the First Amendment, but

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Speaker 26: it's subject to so many limitations we rely.

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Speaker 6: On it to fight back all the time.

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Speaker 26: I mentioned earlier that there's a leader's debate that the

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Speaker 26: government runs here. That's weird in itself. But why would

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Speaker 26: Trudeau nationalize debates? The answer is to choose who gets

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Speaker 26: to attend, including journalists. Twice, Rebel News was banned from

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Speaker 26: attending simply because it didn't like our conservative tilt. Twice

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Speaker 26: we managed to go to the federal court and get

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Speaker 26: a court order allowing us in. So the freedom of

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Speaker 26: speech is there enough that occasionally we can win, but

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Speaker 26: we're always running to the courts because there's a political

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Speaker 26: culture that doesn't value free speech anymore. We have things

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Speaker 26: called the Human Rights Commissions, which are nothing of the sort.

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Speaker 26: They basically weaponize any complaints that you're making mean tweets.

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Speaker 26: Justin Trudeau introduced a terrifying bill called C. Sixty three,

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Speaker 26: the Online Harms Act, that would have made it literally

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Speaker 26: against the law to hurt people's feelings and truth is

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Speaker 26: not a defense. Fair comment is not a defense. Religious

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Speaker 26: conviction is not a defense. That bill was sort of

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Speaker 26: evaporated by the election, but I believe Mark Carney is

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Speaker 26: going to reintroduce it. Let me tell you, freedom of

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Speaker 26: speech is the most important freedom because with it you

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Speaker 26: can fight to recover all the others. It's a little

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Speaker 26: bit tough sometimes free speech because you have to give

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Speaker 26: it to your opponent if you want it for yourself.

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Speaker 26: So you really have to love it because we all

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Speaker 26: don't like what our critics say.

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Speaker 6: But in Canada they're snuffing out free speech.

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Speaker 26: Last point, Charlie, it's not just that they have a

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Speaker 26: stick to beat people they don't like. They have a

876
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Speaker 26: huge carrot for the journalists they do like. They have

877
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Speaker 26: colonized the media. I mentioned what would it look like

878
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Speaker 26: if PBS was larger than all media combined. That's what

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Speaker 26: Canada is like. We have a state broadcaster here that

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Speaker 26: has a larger staff than all private media combined. Imagine

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Speaker 26: how that distorts the debate. And whatever private media there

882
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Speaker 26: is now gets about a thirty thousand dollars per journalist

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Speaker 26: yearly subsidy from the government, so they're all pulling for

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Speaker 26: team Mark Carney. There's really only a handful of independent

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Speaker 26: journalists left so they I think in Canada soon they'll

886
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Speaker 26: only be government funded journalists or government banned journalists. It

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Speaker 26: is not a healthy state of affairs. Elon Musk Franklin

888
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Speaker 26: is the most consequential man in politics because he has

889
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Speaker 26: strengthened our freedom of speech. And thank god Donald Trump

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Speaker 26: because he's fixing the censorship problem in social media, which

891
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Speaker 26: benefits us up here in Canada. If Trump did not win,

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Speaker 26: revenues would be out of business because Twitter and the

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Speaker 26: free speech that's now seeping back into social media would

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Speaker 26: be gone.

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Speaker 1: In closing, here are you guys going to give up?

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Speaker 1: Is now this?

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Speaker 13: Hey?

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Speaker 1: You know the liberals won? What is the battle cry

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Speaker 1: for the Canadian patriot? Because I just have such respect

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Speaker 1: for you guys, because even though that, you know, people

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Speaker 1: in California, say Charlie, it's so bad here. I said, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Go to Ontario, Go to Toronto, go to Ottawa. Are

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Speaker 1: you going to give up one minute remaining, Ezra, No,

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Speaker 1: I love.

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Speaker 6: This is my home.

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Speaker 26: I mean for generations, my family being here, this is

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Speaker 26: my country. I'm not going to give it up without

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Speaker 26: a fight. We fought during the COVID lockdowns, which were

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Speaker 26: extreme up here. Remember the Canadian truckers. They came and

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Speaker 26: they broke the fever and they set an example for

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Speaker 26: the world. And remember no politicians supported them. They didn't

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Speaker 26: have a big super pack behind them. It was grassroots

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Speaker 26: people saying enough is enough. That inspires me those truckers.

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Speaker 26: So we're going to keep fighting. And again, I'm a

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Speaker 26: glass half full guy. The Conservative leader of Canada got

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Speaker 26: the highest vote that his party has received in a generation.

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Speaker 26: I think that he'll break through next time.

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Speaker 6: He's got a.

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Speaker 26: Conservative working class coalition, including young people. It's pretty unique

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Speaker 26: around the world. I think it can win. And I

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Speaker 26: would just say to our American friends, don't give up

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Speaker 26: on us. Don't annex us. You don't need to. You

923
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Speaker 26: already have a free trade agreement that will give you

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Speaker 26: all the oil and gas and minerals you can buy,

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Speaker 26: so you don't need to annex us.

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Speaker 6: That's spook Canadians.

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Speaker 26: That's frankly a reason why the Liberals eked out a win.

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Speaker 26: But let's get back to being best friends. You can

929
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Speaker 26: be Batman and we'll be rob and we're the junior

930
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Speaker 26: partner in the friendship. But let's be best friends again,

931
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Speaker 26: is what I have to say.

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Speaker 1: As Rick, God bless you, my friend. Hope to see

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Speaker 1: you soon. It's a depressing picture from my view, but

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Speaker 1: your optimism and positivity is remarkable and noteworthy.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Thanks Charlie.

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Speaker 1: I just love that amazing. What's the best thing about

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Speaker 1: being surrounded? I guess you can metaphorically shoot in any direction.

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Speaker 1: Second hour coming up.

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Speaker 19: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm

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Speaker 19: Terrence Bates. Thanks so much for being here with us.

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Speaker 19: President Trump is going to be leaving the White House

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Speaker 19: within the next hour, so heading to Michigan to celebrate

943
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Speaker 19: his first one hundred days in office. He's going to

944
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Speaker 19: be holding a rally there and talking about a number

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Speaker 19: of his accomplishments during these first hundred days. Mind you,

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Speaker 19: today is day ninety nine, tomorrow will officially be day

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Speaker 19: one hundred. Our Amanda Head White House correspondent, is there

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Speaker 19: at the White House this morning in advance of the

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Speaker 19: President's departure. Amanda, what's the atmosphere like there at the

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Speaker 19: White House this afternoon as President Trump again is coming

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Speaker 19: up on day one hundred, which is tomorrow.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, you know, the media depends on which side you are.

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Speaker 27: Right on our side, celebrating one hundred days, one hundred

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Speaker 27: days of accomplishments, one hundred days of kicking illegal aliens

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Speaker 27: out of this country, one hundred days of five trillion

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Speaker 27: plus in investments back into this country. Most of those

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Speaker 27: were either technological or automotive, but so much investment coming

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Speaker 27: back into this country.

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Speaker 4: Law and order.

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Speaker 27: These are things that President Trump prioritized, and I know

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Speaker 27: that leading into the election, there was so much polling

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Speaker 27: surrounding what the number one issue was for voters, And

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Speaker 27: what we learned is that in a lot of those

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Speaker 27: polls that the border, border security illegal immigration eked out

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Speaker 27: a win over the economy, which is amazing to see

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Speaker 27: at the end of a term like Joe Biden's where

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Speaker 27: the economy was basically in the dumpster. So a very

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Speaker 27: feverish mentality here. President Trump, as you said, is going

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Speaker 27: to be heading out shortly, and so he will be

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Speaker 27: going to Michigan. I know the people of Michigan are

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Speaker 27: very excited, and Michigan was a hugely pivotal state in

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Speaker 27: turning the Oval Office back over to President Trump.

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Speaker 19: I'm glad you brought up border security because I can't

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Speaker 19: pay attention to you because right behind you, those placards

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Speaker 19: are waving in the wind, which is a reminder from

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Speaker 19: the administration, I would imagine about its focus on border

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Speaker 19: security and not to take its eye off the ball

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Speaker 19: or off the prize.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, and I applaud them for these types of efforts

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Speaker 27: because this is the type of thing that they know

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Speaker 27: the media will be forced to cover because all of

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Speaker 27: these tents, for those of you who have never seen

983
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Speaker 27: the White House property where the media tents are, the

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Speaker 27: media intents are facing those signs and they are positioned

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Speaker 27: directly in front of them. So for CNN, for MSNBC,

986
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Speaker 27: for ABC, for CBS, for all of these networks that

987
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Speaker 27: don't want to talk about the truth, which is that

988
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Speaker 27: these folks, these criminals, sex with a minor sexual contact

989
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Speaker 27: with a child, child molestation, first, sexual abuse of a child,

990
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Speaker 27: kidnapping rate, and rape distribution offentanel. These are the people

991
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Speaker 27: who are getting deported. These are the people who came

992
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Speaker 27: in with other people, people who have not yet been deported.

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Speaker 27: But these are the bad onbrace. These are the ones

994
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Speaker 27: who President Trump has spoken about, and now mainstream media

995
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Speaker 27: these posters are going to be right in their shots,

996
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Speaker 27: so they're going to have to talk about them.

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Speaker 1: It's brilliant, Amanda.

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Speaker 19: Let's move the conversation forward. Today is somewhat of a

999
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Speaker 19: victory lap for the first one hundred days, but there's

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Speaker 19: still more work to do. You actually wrote an article

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Speaker 19: about the next one hundred days. I'm curious about your thoughts.

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Speaker 27: I did, indeed. Yeah, head over to justinnews dot com

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Speaker 27: to check that out. But these are just some of

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Speaker 27: the things that I have indications from President Trump that

1005
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Speaker 27: he that he intends to either start or restart from

1006
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Speaker 27: his first administration. Obviously, what a lot of people are

1007
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Speaker 27: focused on right now is trade deals as a result

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Speaker 27: of those tariffs. The other big priority is going to

1009
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Speaker 27: be making those twenty seventeen tax cuts permanent. You've also

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Speaker 27: got some other things that are interesting. I think people

1011
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Speaker 27: will like to read about water is the new oil.

1012
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Speaker 27: Water is now basically positioned as a commodity. You look

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Speaker 27: at water rights issues in the American West, especially places

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Speaker 27: like California. Last week, I was giving a speech in

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Speaker 27: California to some ladies in King's County in Hanford, California,

1016
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Speaker 27: and this is an agriculture area of California. They feed

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Speaker 27: the world and they are suffering as a result of

1018
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Speaker 27: liberal policies coming out of Sacramento. So that's going to

1019
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Speaker 27: be something I think President Trump is looking very closely

1020
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Speaker 27: at possibly a watersar. I think he's also intending to

1021
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Speaker 27: look at something like a transparenciesar, someone who can really

1022
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Speaker 27: pull back the curtain and assist ag Bondi in getting

1023
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Speaker 27: some of these documents out of there, something he talked

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Speaker 27: about in his first administration. I think he'll pick up

1025
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Speaker 27: the ball on the second time around. Is a cross

1026
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Speaker 27: state competition when it comes to health insurance, and also

1027
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Speaker 27: once again banning gain a function research. So those are

1028
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Speaker 27: some of the priorities I think he's going to have

1029
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Speaker 27: in the next one hundred days. Those stretch out a

1030
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Speaker 27: little bit longer, and some of them involve Congress instead

1031
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Speaker 27: of just signing an executive order, but it's going I

1032
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Speaker 27: don't any signs of him slowing down.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I suspect there won't be any signs of him

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Speaker 19: slowing down at all. White House corresponding Amanda Head joining

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Speaker 19: us from the White House.

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Speaker 1: Always good to talk to you.

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Speaker 19: Thank you so much, and thanks to you for being

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Speaker 19: here with us for this Real America's Voice news break.

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Speaker 19: I'm Terrence Bates. Now let's get you back to the Charlie.

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Speaker 28: Kirkshow okay, everybody, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Email us as always Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. Very

1042
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Speaker 1: excited for we're here at the Bitcoin dot com studio

1043
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Speaker 1: for the conversation that we're gonna have this hour, and

1044
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Speaker 1: it's needed more than ever. When I go to these

1045
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Speaker 1: college campuses, I try to model civility the best I can.

1046
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Speaker 1: I don't always do that. I fall short of the standard.

1047
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Speaker 1: But two men in the public I have modeled what

1048
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Speaker 1: it means and what it looks like to have fruitful

1049
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Speaker 1: disagreement in an age of division. And they are two

1050
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Speaker 1: professors at Princeton University. First, it's doctor Cornell West, who's

1051
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Speaker 1: the Dietrich Bamhaffer Professor of Philosophy and Christian Practice at

1052
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Speaker 1: Union Theological Seminary and Professor Emeritus at Prince the University.

1053
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Speaker 1: And Robert P. George is the McCormick Professor of Jurisprudence

1054
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Speaker 1: and Director of the James Madison Program in American Ideals

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Speaker 1: and Institutions at Prince University. Both doctor West and doctor

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Speaker 1: George join us for the full hour. Great to see

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Speaker 1: you both. Thank you for taking the time, and you

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Speaker 1: have both now co authored I should say this book

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Speaker 1: truth matters. Doctor West. I'll start with you because we

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Speaker 1: are the least ideological aligance, so it will be fun

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Speaker 1: to start with you. But all to be it great

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Speaker 1: to be chatting Doctor West, Welcome to the program. Tell

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Speaker 1: us about the book.

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Speaker 29: Well, first, I want to just thank you for having

1065
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Speaker 29: both of us. God bless you and your precious family.

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Speaker 29: But no, we're fundamentally committed to a pursuit of truth.

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Speaker 29: We recognize that we're cracking vessels, were fallible and falling.

1068
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Speaker 29: But truth is bigger than all of us, just like

1069
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Speaker 29: beauty is, just like God is, just like goodness is.

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Speaker 29: And to behaval to us spend these twenty years with

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Speaker 29: my dear.

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Speaker 7: Dear brother Robbie. Though I have a deep love with

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Speaker 7: my brother.

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Speaker 29: Love is not reducible to politics, and brotherhood and friendship

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Speaker 29: is not reducible to being correct on political issues. I

1076
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Speaker 29: think Brother Robbie's wrong on a whole host of things.

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Speaker 7: He thinks I'm wrong on a whole host of things.

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Speaker 29: But I can revel in his humanity, and I can

1079
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Speaker 29: take seriously the counter arguments he has against men.

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Speaker 7: I think it cuts deep in the sibility though. Buzz Charlotte.

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Speaker 7: It's really a matter.

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Speaker 29: Of humanity, and it also has much to do with

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Speaker 29: what it means to be a follower of Jesus or Nazareth,

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Speaker 29: and we can get into that later.

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Speaker 1: Well, very good, Doctor George, add on to the add

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Speaker 1: some context or detail the book is truth matters, And

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Speaker 1: talk about this friendship that you have with doctor West

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Speaker 1: and how do you remain friends despite the fact that

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Speaker 1: you guys have polar opposite views on many pressing issues.

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Speaker 8: Well, Charlie, first, thanks for the opportunity to be on

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Speaker 8: the show. I love being on with my brother Cornell West,

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Speaker 8: and it's so good to see you again. It's been

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Speaker 8: several years since we've seen each other. I'm hoping that

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Speaker 8: we can get together sometimes soon. In person again. But

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Speaker 8: it's lovely to be on your show. I knew you

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Speaker 8: before you were Charlie Kirk, and now.

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Speaker 30: You're Charlie Kirk, big, big, important contributor to our public

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Speaker 30: discourse here, and just so so delighted that things have

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Speaker 30: gone this way for you and that you're a force

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Speaker 30: out there.

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Speaker 8: I love your dialogue. You're really trying to practice what

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Speaker 8: Cornell and I have been preaching. You know you mentioned

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Speaker 8: that sometimes you fall short. Well, we all do, Cornell

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Speaker 8: and I do. As Cornell said, we're all cracked vessels.

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Speaker 8: We're frail, fallible, fall and human beings. But that doesn't

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Speaker 8: mean that we can't and shouldn't do our best to

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Speaker 8: engage with each other in a way that's genuinely fruitful.

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Speaker 8: And that really gets us to the book. One of

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Speaker 8: the great blessings of my life has been my friendship

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Speaker 8: with brother Cornell, and this really began in earnest back

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Speaker 8: in twenty and five, twenty years ago, when we began

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Speaker 8: teaching together, teaching the great books of Western Civilization to

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Speaker 8: these brilliant young Princeton students, teaching Sophocles, Antigony, Plato's Apology,

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Speaker 8: Saint Augustine's confessions, and on and on up to the

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Speaker 8: nineteenth century with figures like John Stuart Mill and John

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Speaker 8: Henry Newman, into the twentieth century teaching John Dewey and C. S.

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Speaker 8: Lewis and Martin Luther King. And I just found that

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Speaker 8: working with Cornell, I was learning every day, didn't matter

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Speaker 8: whether we ended up agreeing or not. I was deepening

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Speaker 8: my own understanding in my engagement with him. And he

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Speaker 8: kindly says that he has the same experience and has

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Speaker 8: had the same experience deepening his understanding, whether we happen

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Speaker 8: in the end to come to the same place or not.

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Speaker 8: The title of the book says it all. It's what

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Speaker 8: we fundamentally share, and that is a belief that truth matters.

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Speaker 8: Getting at the truth, being in touch with reality, not

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Speaker 8: living with falsehoods, not descending into dogmatism and ideology and tribalism,

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Speaker 8: putting truth above all, whether it squares with our preconceived

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Speaker 8: notions or it doesn't square with our preconceived notion. And

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Speaker 8: I'm dedicated to that, and Cornell is dedicated to that.

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Speaker 8: And I can tell you that creates a powerful bond

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Speaker 8: between two people, a bond that's much stronger than anything

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Speaker 8: that may divide us. We do disagree on many very

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Speaker 8: important things, but we are fundamentally united in our desire

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Speaker 8: to get at the truth and to work together to

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Speaker 8: get there. So in our conversations which have been going

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Speaker 8: on for twenty years inside the classroom and outside classroom,

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Speaker 8: and now in print in our book Truth Matters, for

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Speaker 8: twenty years, we have been talking and debating and discussing

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Speaker 8: and arguing with each other, not with a view of

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Speaker 8: defeating the other guy. I never set out to defeat

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Speaker 8: Cornell in an argument. He never sets out to defeat me.

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Speaker 8: We work together in a partnership, trying to provide the

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Speaker 8: best arguments on the competing sides, with the common goal,

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Speaker 8: the common aim of getting at the truth of things.

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Speaker 8: And as a result of that, I've found my own

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Speaker 8: understanding deeply and rich. I've found the understanding of our students,

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Speaker 8: whether they are right, left or center, Charlie, I have

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Speaker 8: found the understanding of our students deeply and rich. And

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Speaker 8: I just wish that we could present to you some

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Speaker 8: of our students so that they could give you their testimony.

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Speaker 1: Of not I've heard it.

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Speaker 8: It's the couple of guys together in truth oriented discussions.

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Speaker 8: That's what it's all about.

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Speaker 1: So there's so much I want to get into this

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Speaker 1: deeper philosophical of what is truth? Because when I go

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Speaker 1: to campus, there's a lot of students say there is

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Speaker 1: no absolute truth? And I asked, do you believe that? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: So I want to get into that. But doctor Rust,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you. Let me ask you a more

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Speaker 1: fun question right off the bat, based on that which

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Speaker 1: in this dialogue, and I'll ask it of doctor George.

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Speaker 1: Has your mind changed? Have you has any of your

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Speaker 1: opinions shifted because of this twenty year ongoing dialogue with

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Speaker 1: your friend?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 29: Brother Robbie pushes me against the wall and makes me

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Speaker 29: come up with specific ways in which markets themselves may

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Speaker 29: have virtues that I may have downplayed. And I push

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Speaker 29: him against the wall and he begins to see the

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Speaker 29: crucial role of government and the need to balance.

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Speaker 7: But fundamentally, see.

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Speaker 29: Robbie and I are abolitionists, and so that we want

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Speaker 29: the abolition of poverty, We want the abolition of cowardliness,

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Speaker 29: we want the abolition of dogmatism, to abolition and tribalism.

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Speaker 29: We know it will never happen because human beings are

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Speaker 29: human beings, but we can fight against itoph I thought

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Speaker 29: that Vico was the greatest Italian philosopher in the history

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Speaker 29: of all time. He's convinced me now that a quietness

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Speaker 29: is I've always had a great appreciation of a quiety.

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Speaker 7: But what does that mean.

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Speaker 29: Well, Robbie is a Catholic and I'm very much a

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Speaker 29: hanging loose Baptist, and therefore I had to have an

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Speaker 29: appreciation of the Catholic traditions. And we've struggled over claims

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Speaker 29: about faith and grace and what have you. So the

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Speaker 29: philosophical is theological and it's political. On abortion, for example,

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Speaker 29: we've had sustained discussions and debates on abortion. And he

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Speaker 29: pushes me against the wall, and I try to push

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Speaker 29: him against well. In a loving way, we just want

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Speaker 29: to make sure that we are true to the imago day.

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Speaker 29: Each precious human being made in the image of a

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Speaker 29: loving and almighty God and therefore have a certain sanctity

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Speaker 29: and dignity that the world didn't give him in the

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Speaker 29: world can't take away. We take very seriously that Christian

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Speaker 29: practice and our Christian faith, and therefore, when we talk

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Speaker 29: about gays or lesbians or trans or what have you

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Speaker 29: is not out of hate, even as we have disagreements

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Speaker 29: in terms of what kind of practices ought to be enacted.

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Speaker 29: That's the crucial thing that I love about Robbie. He

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Speaker 29: says what he means, means what he says, and he's

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Speaker 29: got an integrity, he's got a compassion, and that makes

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Speaker 29: a difference, my brother, Charlie.

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Speaker 1: Very good, doctor George, I'm gonna ask you that question

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Speaker 1: after the break. We have to take a short radio

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Speaker 1: break here and then we'll get into the deeper stuff.

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Speaker 1: What is truth? How do you respond when someone says

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Speaker 1: there is no truth and there is just power, because

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Speaker 1: in some ways they're rejecting the idea of dialogue. And

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Speaker 1: I'm curious how, because what makes your partnership so exciting

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Speaker 1: is you both have actually consented to a principle that

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Speaker 1: dialogue will bring us closer to the truth. That's a

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Speaker 1: little what dialogue means DialogOS What happens when you're talking

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Speaker 1: to somebody that rejects that though? What happens when when

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Speaker 1: you're having a dialogue they say no, no, Actually, speech is

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Speaker 1: a waste of time. So I'm interested how you both

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Speaker 1: would respond to that or deal with that. So Lea,

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Speaker 1: dialogue on Fruitful Disagreement in the Age of Division by

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Speaker 1: Rob P. George and Doctor Cornell West. Check it out

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Speaker 1: and this continues the entire hour.

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Speaker 31: Stay right there making sense of the insane.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 1: Okay, more with doctor West than Doctor George in just

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Speaker 1: That's Whyrefight dot Com. About thirty seconds, we'll welcome back

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Speaker 1: our radio audience again. I want to encourage you to

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Speaker 1: check out the book that we are discussing the full

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Speaker 1: hour here, Truth Matters, a dialogue on fruitful disagreement in

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Speaker 1: the Age of Division by Doctor George and Doctor West.

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Speaker 1: And boy is that needed now more than ever. There

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Speaker 1: are so many different elements that where people say I

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Speaker 1: can't talk to my neighbor, I can't talk to my

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Speaker 1: loved one, And we're going to dive into those situations

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Speaker 1: and those scenarios and just the second stay right there.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody, email us Freedom Charlie Kirk dot com. So,

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Speaker 1: Doctor George, as I was seg you in the segue

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Speaker 1: into this topic, we're talking about the DialogOS, dialogue and

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Speaker 1: the pursuit of truth. Care to comment on that and

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Speaker 1: how to get closer to truth? We must have dialogue?

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Speaker 8: Well, we do. We Human beings, of course, are social

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Speaker 8: by nature, so it's our nature to interact, to form communities,

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Speaker 8: to form friendships. There's a dark side as well. We

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Speaker 8: also form animosities and so forth. But friendships are integrated

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Speaker 8: around common activities and common goals. And one activity that

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Speaker 8: we can integrate a friendship around is the one that

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Speaker 8: Cornell and I have fundamentally integrated ours around, and that

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Speaker 8: is the pursuit of truth. And we both realize that

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Speaker 8: we've got a better shot at getting nearer to truth,

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Speaker 8: nearer to the fullness of truth, if we cooperate, if

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Speaker 8: we pursue truth together, then we do if we just

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Speaker 8: try to pursue truth individually, and we do that by

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Speaker 8: presenting the best arguments that we can think of on

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Speaker 8: the competing side. So, if I'm inclined in a certain

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Speaker 8: direction on an issue, it could be a philosophical issue.

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Speaker 8: It could be a public policy issue. It might be

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Speaker 8: the question of abortion. It might be the question of

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Speaker 8: whether we should have affirmative action policies, whatever the question is.

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Speaker 8: If I'm inclined in a certain direction, I lay my

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Speaker 8: considerations on the table for Cornell in the form of

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Speaker 8: reasons for my beliefs, and I invite him to tell

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Speaker 8: me if there's something defective in my reasoning, if I've

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Speaker 8: got something wrong. If so, what have I gone wrong?

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Speaker 8: And he'll do that for me. And then I'll be

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Speaker 8: able to reflect on those counter arguments. Same thing on

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Speaker 8: his end. He'll give me his reasons for his position,

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Speaker 8: and then I'll think about those and I'll tell him

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Speaker 8: why if I'm not persuaded, I'm not persuaded. What the

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Speaker 8: considerations are that still leave me where I was? That

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Speaker 8: don't move me. But as I say, in my experience,

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Speaker 8: and I think this is the experience of anybody who's

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Speaker 8: worked together with someone and else or a group of

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Speaker 8: people in the pursuit of truth, even if you don't

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Speaker 8: end up reaching agreement, you're deepening your understanding of the issue.

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Speaker 8: You come out of it in a better place, a fuller,

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Speaker 8: richer understanding of the truth than you would otherwise have.

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Speaker 8: And it doesn't matter in the end whether you have

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Speaker 8: persuaded each other. The deepening of understanding is itself a

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Speaker 8: good thing. Now, ideally you got to the truth of

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Speaker 8: the thing, But if you're deepening understanding, you're at least

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Speaker 8: getting closer to the truth of the thing.

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Speaker 1: So, doctor West, let me ask you about two and

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Speaker 1: a half minutes. I'm going to ask you a million

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Speaker 1: dollar question. Well, then, what is truth, my friend? What

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Speaker 1: is truth?

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Speaker 7: Yes, a powful question of brother.

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Speaker 29: There's truth capital T, and none of us have asked

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Speaker 29: us two and the truth small T that we have

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Speaker 29: asked us too. But we have to recognize we could

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Speaker 29: be wrong. An he claims, we put forward a fellow. Now,

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Speaker 29: as a Christian, you know, I believe that Jesus Christ

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Speaker 29: is the truth, the fleshification, the compromization of truth, and

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Speaker 29: that is in the form of a love that has

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Speaker 29: a capacity to transform who we are. So I make

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Speaker 29: a radical distinction between love and power versus power of truth.

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Speaker 29: But the truth itself capital to none of us have

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Speaker 29: asked us do we look through a lens darkly? So

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Speaker 29: we have to have a humility. The way to truth

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Speaker 29: requires humility, maturity, but endless quest for truth, making sense

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Speaker 29: of the world and hooking up with reality. So you

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Speaker 29: can imagine we gonna have a whole seminar on that

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Speaker 29: question what is truth? But that's just the beginning of

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Speaker 29: an answer, my dear.

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Speaker 1: Brother, So just a quick follow up, and that's only

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Speaker 1: a minute, and we'll do it after the break. How

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Speaker 1: would you say, how would is it worth having a

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Speaker 1: dialogue with someone who says that truth is not objective,

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Speaker 1: absolute or universal, Rather it's relative and constructed. Is that

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Speaker 1: even worth having a discuss with that individual?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 29: Oh, absolutely, because they believe that that relativistic claim itself

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Speaker 29: is true.

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Speaker 1: Correct, that's right. At some point there is an absolute

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Speaker 1: truth claim above their statement.

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Speaker 29: And you tell them when they die their death is

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Speaker 29: itself a reality that is true? There's coming a time

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Speaker 29: when they die. That's a fundamental truth they cannot deny.

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Speaker 29: So in that sense, there's a contradiction for them to

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Speaker 29: be relativistic. Contextual is different than relativistic because we all

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Speaker 29: have a context That's why we are falling infallible, and

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Speaker 29: that's why we're grant vessels trying to love our crooked

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Speaker 29: neighbors with our crooked hearts. But the humility and the

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Speaker 29: maturity is crucial, and that's what I think probably, and

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Speaker 29: I always stress humility, maturity, fallibility, openness, and might never

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Speaker 29: makes right, even though might is always seemingly in the

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Speaker 29: driver's seat.

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Speaker 1: We're going to pick this up after the break, and

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Speaker 1: I want to get into that because it is difficult

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Speaker 1: for me to dial. Of all the conversations I have,

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Speaker 1: it's the most difficult where they will say there's nothing

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Speaker 1: but your own truth. There's nothing transcendent, there's nothing external,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing agreed upon. It's just my truth and your truth.

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Speaker 1: It's a very difficult thing for me to do. And

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Speaker 1: that's the whole part of your book is that truth matters.

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Speaker 1: And you guys have something very rare because in your

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Speaker 1: friendship you both have at least the teleological agreement that

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Speaker 1: you want to try to get closer to ultimate purpose.

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Speaker 1: I don't always find that with the students I talk to,

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Speaker 1: So maybe you guys can help me. After the break,

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Speaker 1: Doctor George and doctor.

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Speaker 19: West, Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break.

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Speaker 19: I'm Terrence Bates. Congress is moving forward on its plan

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Speaker 19: or its part excuse me of budget reconciliation process. Speaking

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Speaker 19: just a little while ago, House speak of Mike Johnson

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Speaker 19: already out with the timeline to get the bill passed

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Speaker 19: in the House. After that, though, the ball will be

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Speaker 19: in the Senate's court.

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Speaker 32: We're going to get it done by a Memorial Day.

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Speaker 32: Send it over there. They take a couple few weeks

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Speaker 32: to work through that. We merged this together. We get

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Speaker 32: it to the President's desk quickly for signature. The Secretary

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Speaker 32: Best said yesterday a big celebration by July fourth. I

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Speaker 32: hope it happens much sooner than that, and we're going

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Speaker 32: to keep pressing aggressively in the House to make sure

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Speaker 32: that happened.

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Speaker 19: Meantime, the Trump administration is pulling back on some of

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Speaker 19: its tariffs on the auto industry. The White House confirms

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Speaker 19: that President Trump will sign an executive order on that

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Speaker 19: issue this afternoon. During a news conference at the White

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Speaker 19: House this morning, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessen was careful not

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Speaker 19: to steal some of President Trump's thunders. However, Commerce Secretary

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Speaker 19: Howard Lutnik says the President will alleviate duties on foreign

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Speaker 19: of your headlines. I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 5: Speaking the truth, no one else has the guts to

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Speaker 5: say the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 1: Okay, everybody. Hillsdale College no offense to the president. Company here,

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Speaker 1: I think is America's greatest college. Charlie for Hillsdale dot com.

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Speaker 1: That is Charlie for Hillsdale dot com. Check it out.

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Speaker 1: They have wonderful new online courses that you guys can

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Speaker 1: take a look at. That is at Charlie for Hillsdale

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Speaker 1: dot com. I love taking their online courses. They have

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Speaker 1: a new one taught by doctor Larry arn In this

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Speaker 1: eight electra course you' learn from Hillsdale College President Larry Arnies.

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Speaker 1: He goes in depth on four major novels in nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty four, Brave New World, Darkness at Noon, in that

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Speaker 1: Hideous Strength. Maybe you read these books a long time ago,

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Speaker 1: maybe you've heard others talk about them and they seem

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Speaker 1: a little intimidating, But Hillsdale College help you make the

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Speaker 1: most of them. Go to Charlie for Hillsdale dot com

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Speaker 1: right now to enroll. There's no cost and it's easy

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Speaker 1: to get started. That c H A R L I

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Speaker 1: E for Hillsdale dot com. That is Charlie for Hillsdale

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Speaker 1: dot com. So doctor George, I'll start with you, Doctor George.

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Speaker 1: There is a belief that is taught in many universities

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Speaker 1: across the country. I'm sure you guys don't teach this

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Speaker 1: in your particular classrooms, that it don't give the opposition

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Speaker 1: the right to speak. Speech is just kind of a

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Speaker 1: construct that instead it's all about power. There's an element

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Speaker 1: of like repressive tolerance that why would we allow conservatives

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Speaker 1: to have a voice. You know, you could draw back

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Speaker 1: to marcusa in some element. But I see this all

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Speaker 1: the time when I go to college campuses, where students

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Speaker 1: some will say not a majority, but a very vocal minority,

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Speaker 1: that speaking to you is a waste of time, that

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Speaker 1: this is just all about power. How should how? How

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Speaker 1: do you? What do you? How do you think about that?

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Speaker 1: How do you persuade somebody differently? And just take it

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Speaker 1: from there?

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Speaker 8: Sure, First, I want to echo what you said about

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Speaker 8: Hillsdale College. What a wonderful institution it is, and those

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Speaker 8: online courses are terrific. I had the opportunity to visit

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Speaker 8: Hillsdale last year and give a lecture up there at

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Speaker 8: the invitation of President Arn, and I was so impressed

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Speaker 8: by the students as well as by the faculty, and

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Speaker 8: of course President Arn himself has just done an amazing

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Speaker 8: job in building Hillsdale into such a powerhouse intellectual institution.

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Speaker 8: So bravo to Hillsdale. And I'm delighted that you're associated

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Speaker 8: with him, Charlie.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know them all right, So the belief that

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Speaker 3: it's really just all about power, and that reason is impotent,

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Speaker 3: that reason's role is merely.

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Speaker 8: To help you figure out how to get what you want,

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Speaker 8: whatever it is you happen to want, by whatever means necessary,

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Speaker 8: And that at the end of the day, all of

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Speaker 8: our aims, goals, objectives are given not by rational reflection

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Speaker 8: to liberation, judgment, but rather by desire, by the will,

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Speaker 8: the will to power. We find this in Plato's Republic,

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Speaker 8: in the figure of Thrisimicus, arguing essentially that might makes right.

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Speaker 8: So the first thing we should notice, and this is

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Speaker 8: why I bring it up, is there's nothing new here.

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Speaker 8: This didn't just arise in the nineteen eighties or nineteen

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Speaker 8: nineties or nineteen sixties. It's a very old view. Socrates

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Speaker 8: is contending with it in the discussions with the Thrisimicus

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Speaker 8: and others. Now, what's wrong with the view. What's wrong

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Speaker 8: with the view is that it's false. We can reason

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Speaker 8: our way to judgments, even judgments about very important deep matters,

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Speaker 8: questions of human nature, the human good, human dignity, human rights,

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Speaker 8: and destiny. But it's hard and we're fallible, which means

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Speaker 8: we can get it wrong. But the fact that we're

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Speaker 8: fallible and can get it wrong. Doesn't mean that there

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Speaker 8: is no truth there. It's simply a non sequitur to

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Speaker 8: suppose that you can infer from our fallibility the absence

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Speaker 8: of truth, or even that it's impossible for us to

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Speaker 8: get after the truth. Now we can't get at the

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Speaker 8: truth fully. Nobody's going to know everything that there is

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Speaker 8: to be known and know it perfectly. And we all

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Speaker 8: know that in our heads even right now, all of us,

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Speaker 8: every single one, every single person on this planet, has

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Speaker 8: some false beliefs in his head. But presumably we don't

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Speaker 8: want to have false beliefs. We want to have true

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Speaker 8: beliefs in our head. We'd like to swap out the

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Speaker 8: false beliefs for true beliefs. And now this gets me, Charlie,

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Speaker 8: to your question about why we should should we should

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Speaker 8: respect the freedom of speech of others, and I only

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Speaker 8: respect their freedom of speech, but also listen to them

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Speaker 8: and engage them in a truth seeking spirit. And that's

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Speaker 8: for this reason. Those false beliefs, they're going to stay

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Speaker 8: right in our heads if we never allow them to

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Speaker 8: be challenged. The only way we have a hope of

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Speaker 8: at least removing some of those false beliefs and replacing

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Speaker 8: them with true beliefs, being in touch with reality. Getting

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01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 8: the truth of matters is if we allow ourselves to

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01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 8: be challenged. We accept criticism. We don't shut down the critic,

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01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 8: We don't punish him for challenging our cherished, deeply held

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01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 8: identity forming convictions, and not just that. The only way

1512
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 8: we're going to get those false beliefs out, at least

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01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 8: some of them, is by listening to whatever the reasons

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01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,839
Speaker 8: and arguments and evidence is that our critic can produce

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01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:39,799
Speaker 8: in the hope of showing us that, in fact, we're

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01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 8: wrong about something. We all have the experience of changing

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01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 8: our minds, right, I certainly do. I haven't always believed

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01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 8: exactly the same things. I had a very dramatic intellectual

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01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 8: conversion experience when I was a sophomore in college as

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01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 8: a result of reading one of Plato's dialogues, the dialogue

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01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 8: called Gorgios, which caused me to change my mind about

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01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 8: a whole lot of things. What was the same me

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01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:06,440
Speaker 8: the moment before in the moment after, the same desires, interests, background,

1524
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 8: tribal allegiances, and so forth. But somehow I move from

1525
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 8: one position about politics to a different one from a

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01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 8: more liberal to a more conservative position. And that's because Plato,

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01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 8: my interlocutur, made me think. He offered criticisms of views

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01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 8: that I had held rather uncritically. As it turned out,

1529
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 8: I was just a kid, but he offered criticisms that

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01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 8: I found persuasive. If we're to have any hope of

1531
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 8: increasing the number of true beliefs and decreasing the number

1532
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 8: of false beliefs that we have, we've got to allow

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01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:44,520
Speaker 8: our critics to speak. We can't immunize ourselves from criticism

1534
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 8: of our views. And we need to listen to that person,

1535
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 8: not just sit by and politely let him talk, genuinely

1536
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 8: listen in a true speaking spirit, understanding that he might

1537
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 8: be right and we might be wrong, or at least

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01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,719
Speaker 8: he might be partially right and we might be partially wrong.

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01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 1: So, doctor West, I agree with everything that you guys

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01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: are trying to do. Do you believe that the modern

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01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 1: state of the academy and higher education is a place

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01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: that fosters free dialogue, civility, respect and speech, especially when

1543
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 1: it comes towards those that might hold conservative positions.

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01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 29: Oh man, Unfortunately it isn't what it ought to be.

1545
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 29: My brother, that Every university in any historical moment has

1546
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 29: its own forms of orthodoxy and dogmatism, and you can

1547
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 29: have a dogmatism of the right, dogmatism of the center,

1548
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 29: dogmatism of the left. Robbie and I are committed to

1549
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 29: Socratic energy. We don't believe in safe spaces and universities.

1550
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 29: When you enter a space, you are to be unsettled

1551
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 29: and unnerved and unearthed. You are to be willing to

1552
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 29: be critical and self critical, just like when you have

1553
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:55,959
Speaker 29: conversations with the other brothers and sisters.

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01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 7: They need to be unsettled and they need to unsettle.

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01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 29: You mediately with respect, though mediated with respect, and we

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01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 29: don't have that unfortunately, the way we ought in our universities.

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01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:08,799
Speaker 7: As you know, I'm in the situation.

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01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 29: I got pushed out of harm with myself yep, because

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01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 29: of my commitment to the Palestinian cause, not because I'm

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01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 29: anti Semitic.

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01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:17,759
Speaker 7: I love my Duwish brother and sisters.

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01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 29: Because as a Christian, I want a Palestinian baby to

1563
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 29: have the exact value as any other baby.

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01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 7: Is really black, white, red, whatever.

1565
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 29: Jesus love the little children, all the children of the world,

1566
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 29: ready yellow, black or white.

1567
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 7: The air pressures in his sight.

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01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 29: I believe that literally, and therefore I don't want any

1569
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 29: kind of orthodoxy of a left right or what happened.

1570
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 7: We want soacratic action, mediated with respect.

1571
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 29: But then as Christians, you know, we got something that

1572
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 29: the world believes is foolish and absurd. We gonna love

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01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 29: everybody beginning, especially with the least of these. That's what

1574
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 29: the Biblical text says to me, and I believe it.

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01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 1: To either one of you could take that, but I

1576
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 1: look this up on Fire's website. A survey downe in

1577
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty said that four out of ten Ivy League

1578
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 1: students said that shouting down a speaker is always or

1579
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 1: sometimes acceptable. These are Ivy League students, right, This is

1580
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: from Fire, So I mean they're pretty respectable, right they

1581
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 1: set absolutely. I would take what they say with a

1582
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,440
Speaker 1: lot of weight and a lot of heaviness.

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01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 8: They're the best in the business.

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01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:25,759
Speaker 6: Charlie.

1585
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: Yes, So I guess this does enter into some news

1586
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 1: of the day, which is, you know, President Trump with

1587
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 1: some of the funding of Harvard and the bigger institutions.

1588
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too far in the politics

1589
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 1: of it, but you guys are a rare example of

1590
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 1: the pursuit of freedom of speech and dialogue. Do your

1591
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 1: colleagues believe that, Let's forget the students. Do your fellow

1592
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:51,719
Speaker 1: professors actually believe in this, because their students certainly don't,

1593
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 1: not enough.

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01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 8: Not enough? Do some do? Cornell and I had the

1595
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 8: privilege of joining together. We're now up to a thousand,

1596
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,879
Speaker 8: almost a thousand professors from universities all over the country

1597
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 8: and across the ideological spectrum. We formed the Academic Freedom Alliance.

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01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,600
Speaker 8: We're doing the work that at another time, at a

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01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 8: better time, the AAUP, the American Association of University Professors

1600
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 8: would have done, but they don't seem to be holding

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01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 8: up the standard of free speech and academic freedom in

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01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:30,879
Speaker 8: the way they should, in my opinion. So we created

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01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 8: a new organization of people who are dedicated to freedom

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01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 8: of speech, and we're trying to preach this gospel. We're

1605
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 8: trying to preach it to our colleagues, and we're trying

1606
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 8: to preach it to our students. And the main way

1607
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 8: we're trying to preach it, it's not the only way,

1608
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 8: but the main way we're trying to preach it is

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01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 8: by example. Cornell and I are trying to lead here

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01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 8: by example, we want to show people how you engage

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01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 8: in robust but truth seeking discourse. We want to try

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01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 8: to model a frail means that we are, you know,

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01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 8: with as Cornella has graph vessels. We're still doing our

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01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 8: best to model what it means to listen to somebody

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01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 8: else in a truth space.

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01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: So let me interrupt. Only interrupt because in a spare

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01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 1: of time veritas, which lily means truth, which is what

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01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:25,839
Speaker 1: Harvard is supposed to care about. Right, is the pursuit

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01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 1: of truth the most important thing? Do you think to

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01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 1: the current composition of elite universities, doctor West? Do you

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01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 1: think that is if you had to distill if they

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01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 1: had to self describe their mission statement, Because to be

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01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 1: perfectly honest, doctor West, when I hear their own university

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01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 1: president's talk, it's not about truth. It's about diversity.

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01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 7: Oh no, no, I.

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01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 29: Hear what you're saying, or brother, But keep in mind

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01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 29: what we mean by truth here though that yes, the

1628
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 29: pursuit of truth ought to be central. But truth is

1629
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 29: a species of the good in the sense that the

1630
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 29: way to truth requires trust, integrity, humility, openness, and respect

1631
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 29: for others saying what they say. Even when you radically disagree.

1632
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 29: So truth is not some abstraction that you're just trying

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01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:15,959
Speaker 29: to grab. It requires a process. So that character formation

1634
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 29: and what i'd call soul craft. That's all language, going

1635
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 29: back to the medieval times, right, Your soul has to

1636
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:27,440
Speaker 29: be shaped in such a way that you have an integrity, honesty, decency,

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01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 29: so that your quest for truth is a genuine one,

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01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:31,680
Speaker 29: not just.

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01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 7: A rationalization of your own opinions.

1640
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 6: And dog.

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01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: I agree with the police doctor George one minute, please

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01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 1: comment on that now.

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01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, So, I mean we got to get back to

1644
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 8: the mission of universities, which is truth seeking. Truth seeking

1645
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 8: for scholars as researchers, truth seeking for students as learners.

1646
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 8: And that means that the fundamental mission is not social justice,

1647
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 8: and the fundamental mission is not training people to go

1648
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 8: into Goldman sachs. Those are fine. It's good that people

1649
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 8: struggle for causes they believe in. It's good that they

1650
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 8: get good jobs. We want our students to be active

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01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 8: in the world. We want our students to get good jobs,

1652
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 8: we want them to have good professional careers. But those

1653
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 8: are not the mission of the university, not the fundamental mission.

1654
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 8: We can carry them on fine, as long as we

1655
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 8: keep our focus where it belongs, on the central mission

1656
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 8: getting at the truth of things. Whether the truth is

1657
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,680
Speaker 8: pleasant to us or not pleasant to us, whether it's

1658
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,879
Speaker 8: what we want to hear, whether it flatters our preconceived notions,

1659
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 8: whether it serves our tribal interests, or whether it doesn't.

1660
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 1: Amen, stay right there, both of you. We have one

1661
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 1: more segment. Check out the book Truth Matters. Boys to say,

1662
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 1: we could do five hours on this topic. In fact,

1663
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 1: I bet they could teach quite a course together. This

1664
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 1: has been a real treat Truth Matters by Doctor George

1665
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 1: and doctor West. Check it out right now. Email us

1666
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 1: Freedom at charliekirk dot com and subscribe to our podcast

1667
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 1: the Charlie Kirkshaw podcast page to hear this conversation in

1668
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 1: its entirety. We'll be right back.

1669
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 5: This movement will not be silenced. You're listening to the

1670
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk Show.

1671
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: Okay, everybody, welcome back. We have a minute in this segment,

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01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: Doctor George and doctor West. Doctor George, why don't you

1673
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 1: plug the book how people can find it and how

1674
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 1: they can see more of the dialogues between you and

1675
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 1: mister West.

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01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 8: Please well, yes, the book is available at all the

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01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 8: online booksellers. It's available in both paperback and, as I

1678
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 8: just learned, in hardcover wherever books are sold.

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01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:46,480
Speaker 1: Very good. And Doctor West, is this the first collaboration

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01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 1: between both of you as far as a book together.

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01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 29: That's crystallized in this way. I've been collaborating with my

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01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 29: brother for twenty years. I'm telling you so that it

1683
01:32:56,479 --> 01:33:01,640
Speaker 29: depends on what form, but certainly this, this text is

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01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 29: a kind of crystallization. Because we've been on chocolate sides,

1685
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 29: vanilla sides of cities. We've been among the well to do,

1686
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 29: the working classes. We've been in Catholic churches, We've been

1687
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 29: in Baptist churches.

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01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 7: Were just trying to bear witness by child. We're trying

1689
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 7: to bear with it.

1690
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:19,879
Speaker 8: A lot of little essays together. But this is our first.

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01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 1: Book project, Truth Matters, a dialogue on fruitful disagreement in

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01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 1: the age of division. We're going to end on that

1693
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 1: topic in just a second. Email us Freedom at Charliekirk

1694
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 1: dot com and subscribe to our podcast. Okay, everybody, welcome back,

1695
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 1: Doctor George and doctor Wester with us. So, Doctor West,

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01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 1: I'll throw this a question to you, which is truth Matters?

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01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 1: You would argue probably that we are increasingly a tree

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01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 1: that is not valued truth and we're not pursuing truth

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01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:06,720
Speaker 1: nearly enough. You ran for the presidency rather admirably, which,

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01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 1: by the way, I have to thank you for taking

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01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 1: a lot of votes away from Kamala Harris. So please

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01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 1: thank you very much for that.

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01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:12,559
Speaker 6: I don't know.

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01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:20,560
Speaker 29: That most of them came from non voters, but.

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01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 6: Don't go.

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01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,959
Speaker 1: I'm here publicly thanking you for your service to the republic,

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01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 1: my friend.

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01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 7: You know, I appreciate that you play a critical.

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01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 1: Role in saving the civilization. Uh So, with that, though,

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01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 1: what would you say and nothing you could say will

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01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 1: offend me or the audience? Are some of the barriers

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01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 1: towards the pursuit of truth in our society and our

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01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 1: culture today and what can we do about them?

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01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 29: I think we have narrow ideological lens and we're not

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01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 29: willing to learn from a variety of different perspectives. Lift

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01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 29: every voice is very handsome of black folks. When you

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01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 29: lift every voice, you're like a jazz woman or a

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01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 29: blues man. You're willing to go beyond being an echo

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Speaker 29: and become a voice.

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01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 7: You know, you over talk about heels of college. I

1721
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 7: just want to.

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Speaker 29: Shot my dear brother Bradley Berts and his magisterial text

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01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 29: Russell Kirk as well as Christopher Dawson. Never met him,

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01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 29: learn much from him. Why he's lifting his voice, I'm

1725
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 29: lifting my voice. We're bouncing off against each other. Never

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01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 29: met him in the flesh. But why because we're involved

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01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 29: in the quest for truth.

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Speaker 8: And I Charlie Roctor, George, I'm going to let your

1729
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:27,440
Speaker 8: listeners in on a little secret here. There is nobody,

1730
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 8: there is no conservative scholar, including myself, who knows more

1731
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 8: about or has a deeper appreciation of the conservative intellectual

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01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 8: tradition than brother Cornell West here. Now, he just revealed

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01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 8: a little of that with his reference to Brad Bircher's

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01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 8: book about Russell Kirk. Cornell is a student. He understands

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01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 8: Russell Kirk, and not just Russell Kirk, Edmund Burke, Burke

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01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 8: and Kirk Leo Strauss, Eric Voglin. One place you're always

1737
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:55,640
Speaker 8: going to find Cornell West is that Harry belbwod Me

1738
01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 8: Harry jaffat the Boklin Meeting of the American Political Science Assays.

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01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 8: So Cornell again is practicing what he's preaching. He's walking

1740
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:05,639
Speaker 8: the walk, not just talking the talk. He has done

1741
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 8: his best to understand, and he does appreciate the conservative tradition.

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01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 8: We have some wonderful dialogues about this. I mean, I

1743
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 8: tell you some he knows Burke better than I know Marx.

1744
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 8: I've tried to understand Marx, but he knows Burke better

1745
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 8: than I know Marx.

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01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 1: It's very good. And so let's end the conversation with this,

1747
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 1: which is marching orders for the audience. Would you encourage

1748
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 1: them to find or to let's just say, resurrect a

1749
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 1: broken relationship that fell apart because of politics. How do

1750
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 1: you guys keep the humanity in your dialogue? Because so

1751
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 1: many people in this audience have brothers and sisters and

1752
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 1: nieces and nephews and grandkids that won't talk to them

1753
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:46,599
Speaker 1: anymore just because they might wear a Bernie Sanders shirt

1754
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 1: or wear a Trump hat. I'm sure both of you

1755
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 1: guys are saddened and troubled by that. What is your

1756
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 1: final marching orders for the millions of people in the

1757
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 1: audience that have seen severed relationships because of differing worldviews,

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01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 1: Doctor West first, and then doctor George.

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01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:05,599
Speaker 29: Because love is the most profound force in human life

1760
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,719
Speaker 29: and in human history, and the last thing you ever

1761
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:12,599
Speaker 29: want to do is to truncate any kind of flow

1762
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 29: of love because of a political or ideological issue. When

1763
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 29: you sit down and your thanksgiving around your family, with

1764
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 29: your mama and grandmother and aunts and uncles, keep the

1765
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:27,560
Speaker 29: love flowing even though you might have political difference sets

1766
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 29: because love is the fruit of the rare, produces the

1767
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 29: fruit of the red joy that will help sustain you

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01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,719
Speaker 29: in your moved from Mama's womb to tomb.

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01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 1: Doctor George final thoughts. Please on agree with the severing

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01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 1: of precious relationships over politics and worldview.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely. I completely agree with what Cornell just said.

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Speaker 7: Let me just add this.

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01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 8: If you want humanity, practice humility. It is very difficult

1774
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 8: to be inhumane to treat other people as things or objects,

1775
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 8: or even as enemies to be destroyed if you have humility,

1776
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 8: and humility is the fruit of our recognition of our

1777
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 8: own fallibility, our own weakness, our own failings. When we

1778
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 8: recognize that not just notionally but existentially, we genuinely acknowledge

1779
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 8: our fallibility our weaknesses, then we can relate to others

1780
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 8: with humility. And you need intellectual humility if you're going

1781
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 8: to be a truth seeker. And then the other virtue

1782
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 8: that I think we all need to practice and model,

1783
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 8: especially for our children and for our students, is the

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01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 8: virtue of courage. Being willing to state your opinion with

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01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 8: love toward others who disagree, but nevertheless to be willing

1786
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 8: to take a chance speak an unpopular truth. That takes courage,

1787
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:46,759
Speaker 8: and we need courage. If we would just bring together

1788
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 8: humility and courage, we'd be non tenths of the way

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01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 8: to where we need to be.

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Speaker 1: God bless you both. Thank you for the model and

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01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 1: example of what civil discussion means. And doctor West, I

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01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 1: do want to have you on another time where we

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01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 1: can show that civil discussion on full display about some

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01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 1: of the top issues, but I wanted to really make

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01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 1: this the primary topic both of you. Thank you so much,

1796
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 1: Doctor George. Great to see you and thank you both

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01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 1: for your great work. Truth Matters is the book. Everyone

1798
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 1: should go purchase it. Thank you both. Thank you excellent

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Speaker 1: conversation everybody. We will see you guys tomorrow. I got

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Speaker 1: ahead to Colorado. God bless and talk to you soon.