WEBVTT - Hour 2 – Matt LaFleur, Doug Gottlieb 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:04.440 Sports Radio. 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:09.000 It's our two on this Wednesday packed house here. We 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:11.560 had people lining up at three point thirty in the morning, 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:14.880 and I said, it's first come, first serve. We do 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:17.440 have some people who can't get in the building, but 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:19.120 we do have a meet and greet a little bit 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:21.479 later on tonight from four to six here at the 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:24.680 bar on home grown Way, but beautiful facility a couple 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:27.560 blocks away from Lambeau. And speaking of which, the Packers 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:31.640 head coach Matt Lafleur will stop by here momentarily eight 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:35.040 seven seven to three. DP show email address dpat Danpatrick 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:38.920 dot com, Twitter handle a TP show. Frank Kelliendo the Master, 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:41.920 the Great impersonator, will join us a little bit later 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:45.440 on as well. Pull question for hour two. Let's clean 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.800 up our one and then we'll head to our two. 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:48.560 Seaton. 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:50.239 Yeah, our one, we got up there. 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.880 If you were betting Shudra Sanders goes top five or 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:56.120 second round, about seventy five percent have of that as 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.440 second round. I think it would change a lot if 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.560 we moved it to ten, So I think I might 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:02.920 do that for the second hour. 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:03.800 All right, I'll give you that. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:04.959 See how that shifts. 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:06.360 All right, you have that power. 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:07.560 Thank you, thank you. 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:09.840 We've also been getting a lot of suggestions from people 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:14.440 about is it what city it's tough in to live 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.800 in when you're a fan of their rival? Okay, right, 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:19.600 so like we just saw a Lions fan out in 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.320 the crowd and he was like, man, that's tough. We 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.319 got some other suggestions here. Being a Browns fan in 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:30.640 Pittsburgh not ideal. Being a Steelers fan in Baltimore probably 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.120 not either. And actually any of those you could swap out. 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:38.560 Well, Pittsburgh and Baltimore probably the one scene when it 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:40.800 comes to rivalries. Now, I know that you can have 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.640 the Packers and the Bears, but you know, for such 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:45.559 a long period of time the Bears weren't any good. 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.080 But with Baltimore and Pittsburgh, I mean that's a true 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:50.360 they hate each other. 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.280 Yeah, yeah, and both are i mean obviously super competitive, 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:54.600 so the games mean something. 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:56.920 Yeah, you know, do you think it's not tough being 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.440 a Cowboy fan any other place in America? 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.240 You know, you can't walk around being like, you know, 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:03.240 we're America's team. 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.000 It is so hard, like, get out of here. 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:08.480 Stop saying mean things. About us. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.080 What is this hard? 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:14.600 Yeah? Get out of here? Yeah, all right? What other questions? 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:16.440 Yeah, I think we're sticking. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.239 I think we're gonna go with I don't have enough 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:22.280 options to list on the Commander's fans in Dallas, Jets 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.040 fans in Boston, Bears fans in Green Bay. But we're 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.040 definitely taking those suggestions on socio. 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.240 Okay, as they say, all right, by the way, we 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:31.519 are showing you the rematch. 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:35.840 It's pickleball, and it's created quite a controversy here because 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:39.640 it looks like Fritzy cheated during the rematch for pickleball. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.760 And I don't know if it's under protest, but there 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.920 is an asterisk that will be attached apparently to the 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:47.399 outcome of this pickleball match. 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:48.920 Yes, Dohn, I feel like I have to stick up 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.200 for myself because it's being presented as. 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:52.079 If I went out of my way. 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.000 I know all these rules of pickleball, and I wouldn't 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.680 still cheated when it's just ignorance on my part that 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:58.560 I played it as if it was tennis on a 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.000 pickleball quote, not knowing where IM supposed stand, Gotta wait 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:01.600 for it to bounce. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:02.920 You're in the dining room or in the ground. 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.320 No, it's not. It's it's the kitchen. There's no dining 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:06.200 room and no garage. 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:07.480 I see the ball coming, I slam it. 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.079 See this is what you do. You try to throw 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.160 us off. Really, what the story is? 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:13.200 You cheated? 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.280 It's being presented as if I intentionally cheat, like you 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.040 knew the rules? Are you still even if. 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:20.959 You don't, I mean sometimes you can cheat inadvertent, you 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:21.600 still cheated? 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:22.760 Right ever since I told you? 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.720 I looked at the kid's paper on a chemistry midtime 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:26.519 and I copy the limerick word for word from a 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:27.720 book and I presented this. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.320 Steel dishes from a department. 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.320 Well, that's because they didn't calculate it properly and they 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:33.040 ended up giving you to. 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.920 Buy DoD there's a history here of cheating. 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:38.760 I was going to return it, and my wife did 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:40.520 say you should go back to the charge us for one, 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:41.760 and you got too, and I'm like, I think we 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:42.960 should just put in the trunk and get out. 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:44.080 And I love that. 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.160 Todd just said, I just see the ball coming and 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.360 I slam it. 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:50.680 My motto, it's my pickleball bottom. I see the ball, 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.760 slam it. Don't care for me. The kitchen in the 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:54.280 dining room. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.240 But there are rules, that's all. 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.120 You know how social media, they are very serious about 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:01.760 their pickleball. 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.000 It's silly, though. You can't gotta wait for the balance. 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:05.200 It's got to be here. It's got to be there. 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:06.960 You're we're in the kitchen. You can't hit it there. 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.080 Okay, But there's still rules. They're stupid rules in all sports, 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:11.160 but you have to follow them. 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:12.880 So you gonna yell at like there's like seventy eighty 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.280 year old people playing pickable. You're gonna yell at the grandma. Hey, 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:16.920 you work out, you get one foot on the side there. 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:20.599 If you're watching on Peacock, download the out that's our 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.560 streaming partner. You'll be able to see Matt Lafleur, the 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.560 Packer's head coach who joins us on the program. Is 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:30.400 seventh season there, come on in coach. The uh Packers 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:34.840 went eleven and six the number two seed Eagles. They 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.400 lost to them. Hi, Bud, good to see you. So 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:41.360 sit down. We got a home field advantage here. 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.360 I know at nine o'clock in the morning, drinking some beer. 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.200 They only in Green Bay. 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.280 They started showing up at three point thirty. 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.880 In the morning for tomorrow night's draft. Yeah, a deal, 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:52.200 I know. 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.279 So when it comes to draft week, are you any 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.520 different than you are in other weeks preparing for the draft? 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:01.480 Well, I mean you're juggling. 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.360 We have our first phase of the off season programs, 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.360 so right now we're doing it virtually because of just 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.800 all the people that are congregating to Green Bay, and 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.080 so you're just kind of juggling that schedule and doing 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.880 the last second setting. 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:18.000 Of the board. 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.560 But in dealing with the media, in what you say 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.960 and how you say, because you don't want to tip 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.880 your hand, sure are you? Like how good are you 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:28.320 at lying? 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:31.960 Just depends who you're asking. 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.360 So, like, let me say, who are you drafting? 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.240 Well, that's a great question, you know, That's what I 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:39.919 usually say, who are we drafted? 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.680 I'm sure you've done a mock so. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.520 No, no, no, I'm only somebody here. No, no, no, we 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.680 do not. We are mock free. Okay, we are mackless. 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.359 But some that I watch and I look at and 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.000 I'm like, I hope not. And then there's others that 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.279 I get really excited about. 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.400 So but you have to it's almost like you're preparing 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:03.520 somebody for a deposition, you're just like, okay, let's create 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:04.240 a mock draft. 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.039 Now how do we react to that? 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.560 So you would go through scenarios, probably in real time, 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.040 where somebody goes all right, cam Ward's off the board, 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:16.599 Travis off the board, Ashton Genty off the board. So 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.480 then you get to where you guys are. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.360 Yeah, you know that's something that our scouting department does 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.359 more than what we do as a staff. 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.719 Oh so you wouldn't get together in a room and go, okay, 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:28.960 if this happens, then we do this. 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.720 No, but our scouting department does all that. Okay, so 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.680 we focus more our time. Like I said, it's it's 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.400 phase one of our off season programs. So the majority 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.560 of our time this week is dedicated to our players. 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:44.800 I was talking to Mel Kiper about this, and he said, 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:50.200 why do coaches and gms put more faith or credence 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.440 in things that happen after a season is over? So 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.599 they haven't These guys haven't played any games, you know, 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.640 maybe the Senior Bowl. And Mel said, you know, you're 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.240 trying to get guys playing against guys who will play 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.599 in the NFL, because there are guys who are playing 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.400 against guys who won't be in the NFL and trying 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.880 to understand just how good somebody is. So how difficult 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:14.800 is that to go? Ashton Genty, I see him and man, 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:18.080 he's dominating. But is he dominating against guys who will 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.840 play in the NFL or Schadoor Sanders playing against somebody 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:22.840 or a wide receiver? 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:24.520 So how do you. 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:27.840 Then kind of read between the lines of that guy 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:28.600 is legitimate? 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.480 Well, I think you always are looking for certain traits 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:35.760 at every position, and obviously there's a lot of testing 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.120 and the guys are doing less and less. 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.520 Of that, but you're just looking for traits. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.000 I do think it becomes more of a challenge when 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.560 you're maybe at some of the lower levels when guys 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.960 just absolutely dominate the competition. It's easier when you're looking 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.120 at some guys that are coming from some of these 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:56.000 SEC programs where there's just more NFL talent on the field. 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:57.600 What are red flags to you? 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:04.360 Well, it just depends is there's character issues that come up. 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:08.960 Because I think if you get good people and that 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:12.080 love the game of football, and that's always the thing 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.120 that you're trying to find out throughout the draft process, 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.400 But if you get guys that love the game of 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.320 football and have high character. I feel like they have 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.920 a chance of reading their reaching their ceilings. 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.000 So that is something that we're always looking for. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.640 Okay, But what could you ask me that is going 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:28.560 to reveal. 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:33.360 Well, I mean there's a lot of background that goes 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.520 into these guys, and that that's where you rely so 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:40.320 heavily on the scouting department, and certainly there's relationships that 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:44.920 you have with people at schools, whether it's other coaches 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.679 or whoever. And you're always trying to get people to 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:49.600 give you the truth. 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.880 We're talking to Matt Luflor, the Packer's head coach. How 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:56.080 often have you gone out for a game and you 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:57.199 know it's going to be cold? 0:08:58.160 --> 0:08:59.280 And it's almost every week? 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.440 But but you have to put on a good front. 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.800 You have to be tough, you know, right, you can't 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:07.080 be like all bundled up. 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:12.040 Yeah, you're right. So what I've learned is it doesn't matter. 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:17.560 It's all about layering. So I might have like seven 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.200 layers of clothes on. Now they might be very thin, 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.319 but I like to wear a vest usually out on 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.559 the field. But if I'm in a coat, full coat, 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:27.520 you know it's cold. 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.280 Okay, but you have good hair. How important is it 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.160 to make sure that the hair is not covered up? 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:35.040 Well, you know, it just depends. I try not to 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:36.720 wear a hat, but sometimes I do. 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:37.040 Yeah. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.280 If they make hats that I like, then I'm more 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.560 apt to wear them. Sometimes they don't always make the 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:42.120 hats I like. 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:43.480 Okay, but you got good hair. 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:44.920 I appreciate that. 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:46.320 You know what, You've got great hairs. 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.960 Who I have great And I have gray hair too. 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:51.440 It's great and mine's coming in. 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:52.880 It's starting to go. 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:54.679 Yeah. 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:56.319 How long did it take you to get over the 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:57.839 loss to the Eagles? 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.400 I mean you got to flip the script pretty cool quickly. 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:05.440 Obviously, it's it's disappointing, but I think that when you 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.840 look at them, I think they were the best team 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.120 probably in the NFL, and they proved it. 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.160 You know, we start, we do get caught up on 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.920 quarterbacks and wide receivers and all of that, and really 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:18.680 it's offensive and defensive lines. 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:21.360 That's a big, big player. 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.800 I mean, you look at they were dominant up front 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.600 on both sides of the ball. Certainly we had a 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:31.480 hard time blocking them and also conversely getting pressure on 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:32.200 the quarterbacks. 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.560 So they are built the right way. 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:40.280 The brotherly shove that the Packers came out Kins, would 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.200 you have liked that to have remained anonymous, that there's 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:43.880 a team, that. 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:44.600 It is what it is. 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.800 We might have had some nudging towards that, but I'm 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:51.040 not really going to get into that. 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.120 Did the commissioner say we need somebody to speak up? 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:55.640 I wouldn't say that. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.560 Because I don't think the commissioner wants this. 0:10:57.920 --> 0:10:59.839 Non I can I say. 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:00.840 What I think happened. 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:04.520 Sure, Okay, I think the commissioner nudged you guys to say, look, 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.120 if you have a grievance, put your name to it. 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:10.680 I'll owe you one. And because I don't think he 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:12.840 wants that play to stay in the game. 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.720 Well, it's not a great football play. 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.520 And then certainly when you look at what happened in 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:22.439 the Washington Commander game where Frankie Louvers launching over. 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:25.080 The top, which I mean it's a tough play to stop. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.440 We've actually had more success, and we had some studies 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:33.280 ran we've had more success with a traditional quarterback sneak 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.120 than we have with you know, whatever you want to 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:37.680 call it, brotherly show. 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:39.920 I think Philadelphia is still going to be dominating with 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:41.960 the quarterback sneak. I agree because of that line. 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:44.760 In that quarterback, I mean they do a great job 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.880 and I mean Jalen Hurts can squat the house. 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.880 They do a good job of just you know, winn 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:53.800 in the line of scrimmage. 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.360 It all starts right there and they get really low 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.000 and they've they've perfected it. 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.319 Take me back to the Joy and Love Draft. How 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.640 many different players did you have penciled in for that draft? 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:07.120 Pick? What picked? Were we? 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:12.040 I can't remember, uh what pick? Yeah, I'd say twenty. 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:13.960 Yeah, how many? 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.880 How many players did you have on the board that 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.280 you were thinking of taking if the draft played out 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:20.959 how you thought of it? 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:22.520 Yeah, there was certainly a couple. 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.920 And I think, you know, it's a credit to Goody 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:29.320 and his staff just having that vision of if you 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:35.880 don't have a quarterback in today's game, you're you're you're screwed. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.240 So let's just throw it out there. It's it's just tough. 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:43.400 So you need to have that position solidified. And we're 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.920 lucky we got him because I think he's a He's 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.840 not only a great player, but I think he's an 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:52.280 even better person. And I just love the energy comes 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.320 in with each and every day, and he works his 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:58.040 tail off and he's continuing to develop as a leader. 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:00.960 It's like taking a two, but you don't get your 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:05.040 grade till three years later because you draft him and 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.600 then you sit him and everybody is like, you know, 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.400 you wasted two years with Rogers, or you don't take 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.000 a wide receive? Were you taking a wide receiver? 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.079 Yeah, potentially if the right guy was there. 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.160 But who would that have been? 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:23.760 Oh? I mean there was some good ones, so. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:28.720 I know I went, you went one before, Yeah, I believe. 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:30.480 So I think San Francisco traded up. 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:32.600 Would you have taken Ayuk if he was there? 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:33.960 I think potentially. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.240 I mean I don't want to speak for everybody in 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.960 our organization, but I think that certainly would have been 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:44.040 in the discussion. I think Jefferson went, yeah, Chase. We 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.600 knew he was going to be gone, so but yeah, 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.160 Jefferson was right there in the wheelhouse. So I mean, 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:54.880 there's always you better have a few players that are 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.640 kind of there for you. And I think the controversy 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.520 of that whole deal was that we traded up to 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.959 go get Jordans. If we would have stayed there picked him, 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:06.960 I don't I think it would have been less. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:08.840 Obviously, it still would have been a big story. 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.680 But I think the fact that we went up to 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:15.960 go get him, and but I do think obviously it 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:16.840 was the right decision. 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.120 Oh yeah, I understand that, and I thought you guys would. 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:24.720 I love Yeah, I need I need that support from 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:25.680 my Packer fans. 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.400 I think you're good. I think you're good on that. 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:34.200 But you you have to place that call to Aaron. 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.640 Yeah, how was that interesting? 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:39.280 I think he was shocked. 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:45.280 Okay, I'll play Okay, Yeah, oh hey, hey, coach, what 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:46.320 what what happened? 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:51.520 I don't think that that was like, what the bleep? 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:53.800 I think there was more of that. 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.440 Yeah, okay, so so what the bleep just happened? I 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:01.400 will say, I mean, whether that was or whatnot. But 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.560 he did go out and had two pretty damn good 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:05.360 years back and back. 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:06.480 Yeah you pissed him off? 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:06.960 Yeah? 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:11.680 Yeah. What memories do you have playing for the Omaha Beef? 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:13.000 Oh, the Omaha Beef. 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:19.440 Probably the rump Roasters, which were these three hundred pound men, 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:21.880 three hundred plus pound men that would go out there 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:23.600 at halftime and perform for the crowd. 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:24.640 That's what you remember. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.520 No, not really but I just thought it was a 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:28.040 good story. 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.600 What kind of quarterback were you for the omahak Beef? 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.720 Probably not a very good one, No, I just I 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.080 was kind of a run around guy and can make 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:38.160 some plays with my legs. 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.840 Do your players ever bring up your career? 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:42.080 Now? 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:43.600 Do you ever? 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:47.080 I'm sure they do behind my back and probably make 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:47.960 fun of me a little bit. 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.120 But do you have your Omaha beef jersey? 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:50.600 I do not. 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.400 Damn I'd love to have that. I'd love to hang 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.680 that in the man cave. Yeah, that never found your 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:57.400 Omaha Beef. 0:15:57.680 --> 0:15:58.240 I don't think they. 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.040 I mean, I think the budget was a little bit different. 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.000 They probably were used it for the next five years. 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.160 So sometimes we get caught up in oh, you never 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.920 played the game, but you played the game you didn't play, 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:11.480 you know at the NFL level? 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:15.640 Sure, how much does that impact you? Do you think 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.000 when you're especially. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.160 When you're calling plays and trying to put yourself in 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.680 the position of Jordan or Aaron Well. 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:26.520 I think having the quarterback background certainly helps. I think 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.520 it allows you to kind of see the game and 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.760 feel the game through the lens of the quarterback, which 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.360 is I think most play callers are trying to do 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.320 and how do you set that guy up for success 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.720 and ultimately score as many points as you can. But 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.720 you know, I don't think it necessarily matters. You've seen 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.600 great coaches that have never played football that go on 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:50.600 and have great careers, and you know, but I was 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.880 fortunate for my time. I started out of Western Michigan 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:58.600 as as a walk on and as a receiver, and 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.600 then when I transferred a second of ally, I didn't 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.800 really know if I was going to play quarterback or receiver, 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:05.960 and it just it worked out that way, and I 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.120 started for three years and we had a lot of fun. 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.200 Yeah, holy Dan, I got a couple of updates about 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.240 coach laflores time at the Omaha Beef on Beefootball dot 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:16.680 Com as always so already was before you got here couching. 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:18.200 Are they still rolling right now? 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:18.400 Oh? 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:20.120 Yeah, okay, you. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.239 Went into the Hall of Fame in twenty twenty four, 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:22.960 the Beef Hall of Fame. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:27.240 Yeah, wait a minute, I was wow. Around of a 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:34.200 blog probably my proudest accomplishment. And Dan, also, if. 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.600 You go to their website, you can get custom jerseys, 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:38.680 so you could have one made for yourself. 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.399 You know, what Maybe my wife can do that for 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.040