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Speaker 2: It's our two on this Wednesday packed house here. We
Speaker 2: had people lining up at three point thirty in the morning,
Speaker 2: and I said, it's first come, first serve. We do
Speaker 2: have some people who can't get in the building, but
Speaker 2: we do have a meet and greet a little bit
Speaker 2: later on tonight from four to six here at the
Speaker 2: bar on home grown Way, but beautiful facility a couple
Speaker 2: blocks away from Lambeau. And speaking of which, the Packers
Speaker 2: head coach Matt Lafleur will stop by here momentarily eight
Speaker 2: seven seven to three. DP show email address dpat Danpatrick
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Speaker 2: the Great impersonator, will join us a little bit later
Speaker 2: on as well. Pull question for hour two. Let's clean
Speaker 2: up our one and then we'll head to our two.
Speaker 3: Seaton.
Speaker 4: Yeah, our one, we got up there.
Speaker 5: If you were betting Shudra Sanders goes top five or
Speaker 5: second round, about seventy five percent have of that as
Speaker 5: second round. I think it would change a lot if
Speaker 5: we moved it to ten, So I think I might
Speaker 5: do that for the second hour.
Speaker 3: All right, I'll give you that.
Speaker 4: See how that shifts.
Speaker 3: All right, you have that power.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5: We've also been getting a lot of suggestions from people
Speaker 5: about is it what city it's tough in to live
Speaker 5: in when you're a fan of their rival? Okay, right,
Speaker 5: so like we just saw a Lions fan out in
Speaker 5: the crowd and he was like, man, that's tough. We
Speaker 5: got some other suggestions here. Being a Browns fan in
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh not ideal. Being a Steelers fan in Baltimore probably
Speaker 5: not either. And actually any of those you could swap out.
Speaker 2: Well, Pittsburgh and Baltimore probably the one scene when it
Speaker 2: comes to rivalries. Now, I know that you can have
Speaker 2: the Packers and the Bears, but you know, for such
Speaker 2: a long period of time the Bears weren't any good.
Speaker 2: But with Baltimore and Pittsburgh, I mean that's a true
Speaker 2: they hate each other.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and both are i mean obviously super competitive,
Speaker 5: so the games mean something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, do you think it's not tough being
Speaker 2: a Cowboy fan any other place in America?
Speaker 5: You know, you can't walk around being like, you know,
Speaker 5: we're America's team.
Speaker 4: It is so hard, like, get out of here.
Speaker 3: Stop saying mean things. About us.
Speaker 4: What is this hard?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Get out of here? Yeah, all right? What other questions?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're sticking.
Speaker 5: I think we're gonna go with I don't have enough
Speaker 5: options to list on the Commander's fans in Dallas, Jets
Speaker 5: fans in Boston, Bears fans in Green Bay. But we're
Speaker 5: definitely taking those suggestions on socio.
Speaker 3: Okay, as they say, all right, by the way, we
Speaker 3: are showing you the rematch.
Speaker 2: It's pickleball, and it's created quite a controversy here because
Speaker 2: it looks like Fritzy cheated during the rematch for pickleball.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's under protest, but there
Speaker 2: is an asterisk that will be attached apparently to the
Speaker 2: outcome of this pickleball match.
Speaker 6: Yes, Dohn, I feel like I have to stick up
Speaker 6: for myself because it's being presented as.
Speaker 7: If I went out of my way.
Speaker 6: I know all these rules of pickleball, and I wouldn't
Speaker 6: still cheated when it's just ignorance on my part that
Speaker 6: I played it as if it was tennis on a
Speaker 6: pickleball quote, not knowing where IM supposed stand, Gotta wait
Speaker 6: for it to bounce.
Speaker 7: You're in the dining room or in the ground.
Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's it's the kitchen. There's no dining
Speaker 3: room and no garage.
Speaker 7: I see the ball coming, I slam it.
Speaker 2: See this is what you do. You try to throw
Speaker 2: us off. Really, what the story is?
Speaker 3: You cheated?
Speaker 7: It's being presented as if I intentionally cheat, like you
Speaker 7: knew the rules? Are you still even if.
Speaker 3: You don't, I mean sometimes you can cheat inadvertent, you
Speaker 3: still cheated?
Speaker 7: Right ever since I told you?
Speaker 6: I looked at the kid's paper on a chemistry midtime
Speaker 6: and I copy the limerick word for word from a
Speaker 6: book and I presented this.
Speaker 3: Steel dishes from a department.
Speaker 6: Well, that's because they didn't calculate it properly and they
Speaker 6: ended up giving you to.
Speaker 3: Buy DoD there's a history here of cheating.
Speaker 6: I was going to return it, and my wife did
Speaker 6: say you should go back to the charge us for one,
Speaker 6: and you got too, and I'm like, I think we
Speaker 6: should just put in the trunk and get out.
Speaker 8: And I love that.
Speaker 5: Todd just said, I just see the ball coming and
Speaker 5: I slam it.
Speaker 7: My motto, it's my pickleball bottom. I see the ball,
Speaker 7: slam it. Don't care for me. The kitchen in the
Speaker 7: dining room.
Speaker 3: But there are rules, that's all.
Speaker 2: You know how social media, they are very serious about
Speaker 2: their pickleball.
Speaker 7: It's silly, though. You can't gotta wait for the balance.
Speaker 7: It's got to be here. It's got to be there.
Speaker 7: You're we're in the kitchen. You can't hit it there.
Speaker 2: Okay, But there's still rules. They're stupid rules in all sports,
Speaker 2: but you have to follow them.
Speaker 7: So you gonna yell at like there's like seventy eighty
Speaker 7: year old people playing pickable. You're gonna yell at the grandma. Hey,
Speaker 7: you work out, you get one foot on the side there.
Speaker 2: If you're watching on Peacock, download the out that's our
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Speaker 2: Packer's head coach who joins us on the program. Is
Speaker 2: seventh season there, come on in coach. The uh Packers
Speaker 2: went eleven and six the number two seed Eagles. They
Speaker 2: lost to them. Hi, Bud, good to see you. So
Speaker 2: sit down. We got a home field advantage here.
Speaker 7: I know at nine o'clock in the morning, drinking some beer.
Speaker 4: They only in Green Bay.
Speaker 3: They started showing up at three point thirty.
Speaker 4: In the morning for tomorrow night's draft. Yeah, a deal,
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: So when it comes to draft week, are you any
Speaker 2: different than you are in other weeks preparing for the draft?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean you're juggling.
Speaker 9: We have our first phase of the off season programs,
Speaker 9: so right now we're doing it virtually because of just
Speaker 9: all the people that are congregating to Green Bay, and
Speaker 9: so you're just kind of juggling that schedule and doing
Speaker 9: the last second setting.
Speaker 3: Of the board.
Speaker 2: But in dealing with the media, in what you say
Speaker 2: and how you say, because you don't want to tip
Speaker 2: your hand, sure are you? Like how good are you
Speaker 2: at lying?
Speaker 4: Just depends who you're asking.
Speaker 3: So, like, let me say, who are you drafting?
Speaker 9: Well, that's a great question, you know, That's what I
Speaker 9: usually say, who are we drafted?
Speaker 4: I'm sure you've done a mock so.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm only somebody here. No, no, no, we
Speaker 2: do not. We are mock free. Okay, we are mackless.
Speaker 9: But some that I watch and I look at and
Speaker 9: I'm like, I hope not. And then there's others that
Speaker 9: I get really excited about.
Speaker 2: So but you have to it's almost like you're preparing
Speaker 2: somebody for a deposition, you're just like, okay, let's create
Speaker 2: a mock draft.
Speaker 3: Now how do we react to that?
Speaker 2: So you would go through scenarios, probably in real time,
Speaker 2: where somebody goes all right, cam Ward's off the board,
Speaker 2: Travis off the board, Ashton Genty off the board. So
Speaker 2: then you get to where you guys are.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know that's something that our scouting department does
Speaker 9: more than what we do as a staff.
Speaker 2: Oh so you wouldn't get together in a room and go, okay,
Speaker 2: if this happens, then we do this.
Speaker 9: No, but our scouting department does all that. Okay, so
Speaker 9: we focus more our time. Like I said, it's it's
Speaker 9: phase one of our off season programs. So the majority
Speaker 9: of our time this week is dedicated to our players.
Speaker 2: I was talking to Mel Kiper about this, and he said,
Speaker 2: why do coaches and gms put more faith or credence
Speaker 2: in things that happen after a season is over? So
Speaker 2: they haven't These guys haven't played any games, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe the Senior Bowl. And Mel said, you know, you're
Speaker 2: trying to get guys playing against guys who will play
Speaker 2: in the NFL, because there are guys who are playing
Speaker 2: against guys who won't be in the NFL and trying
Speaker 2: to understand just how good somebody is. So how difficult
Speaker 2: is that to go? Ashton Genty, I see him and man,
Speaker 2: he's dominating. But is he dominating against guys who will
Speaker 2: play in the NFL or Schadoor Sanders playing against somebody
Speaker 2: or a wide receiver?
Speaker 3: So how do you.
Speaker 2: Then kind of read between the lines of that guy
Speaker 2: is legitimate?
Speaker 9: Well, I think you always are looking for certain traits
Speaker 9: at every position, and obviously there's a lot of testing
Speaker 9: and the guys are doing less and less.
Speaker 8: Of that, but you're just looking for traits.
Speaker 9: I do think it becomes more of a challenge when
Speaker 9: you're maybe at some of the lower levels when guys
Speaker 9: just absolutely dominate the competition. It's easier when you're looking
Speaker 9: at some guys that are coming from some of these
Speaker 9: SEC programs where there's just more NFL talent on the field.
Speaker 3: What are red flags to you?
Speaker 9: Well, it just depends is there's character issues that come up.
Speaker 9: Because I think if you get good people and that
Speaker 9: love the game of football, and that's always the thing
Speaker 9: that you're trying to find out throughout the draft process,
Speaker 9: But if you get guys that love the game of
Speaker 9: football and have high character. I feel like they have
Speaker 9: a chance of reading their reaching their ceilings.
Speaker 8: So that is something that we're always looking for.
Speaker 3: Okay, But what could you ask me that is going
Speaker 3: to reveal.
Speaker 9: Well, I mean there's a lot of background that goes
Speaker 9: into these guys, and that that's where you rely so
Speaker 9: heavily on the scouting department, and certainly there's relationships that
Speaker 9: you have with people at schools, whether it's other coaches
Speaker 9: or whoever. And you're always trying to get people to
Speaker 9: give you the truth.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Matt Luflor, the Packer's head coach. How
Speaker 2: often have you gone out for a game and you
Speaker 2: know it's going to be cold?
Speaker 8: And it's almost every week?
Speaker 2: But but you have to put on a good front.
Speaker 2: You have to be tough, you know, right, you can't
Speaker 2: be like all bundled up.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you're right. So what I've learned is it doesn't matter.
Speaker 9: It's all about layering. So I might have like seven
Speaker 9: layers of clothes on. Now they might be very thin,
Speaker 9: but I like to wear a vest usually out on
Speaker 9: the field. But if I'm in a coat, full coat,
Speaker 9: you know it's cold.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you have good hair. How important is it
Speaker 2: to make sure that the hair is not covered up?
Speaker 9: Well, you know, it just depends. I try not to
Speaker 9: wear a hat, but sometimes I do.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: If they make hats that I like, then I'm more
Speaker 9: apt to wear them. Sometimes they don't always make the
Speaker 9: hats I like.
Speaker 3: Okay, but you got good hair.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
Speaker 8: You know what, You've got great hairs.
Speaker 3: Who I have great And I have gray hair too.
Speaker 4: It's great and mine's coming in.
Speaker 8: It's starting to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: How long did it take you to get over the
Speaker 2: loss to the Eagles?
Speaker 4: I mean you got to flip the script pretty cool quickly.
Speaker 9: Obviously, it's it's disappointing, but I think that when you
Speaker 9: look at them, I think they were the best team
Speaker 9: probably in the NFL, and they proved it.
Speaker 2: You know, we start, we do get caught up on
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and wide receivers and all of that, and really
Speaker 2: it's offensive and defensive lines.
Speaker 4: That's a big, big player.
Speaker 9: I mean, you look at they were dominant up front
Speaker 9: on both sides of the ball. Certainly we had a
Speaker 9: hard time blocking them and also conversely getting pressure on
Speaker 9: the quarterbacks.
Speaker 8: So they are built the right way.
Speaker 2: The brotherly shove that the Packers came out Kins, would
Speaker 2: you have liked that to have remained anonymous, that there's
Speaker 2: a team, that.
Speaker 8: It is what it is.
Speaker 9: We might have had some nudging towards that, but I'm
Speaker 9: not really going to get into that.
Speaker 2: Did the commissioner say we need somebody to speak up?
Speaker 8: I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 3: Because I don't think the commissioner wants this.
Speaker 4: Non I can I say.
Speaker 3: What I think happened.
Speaker 2: Sure, Okay, I think the commissioner nudged you guys to say, look,
Speaker 2: if you have a grievance, put your name to it.
Speaker 3: I'll owe you one. And because I don't think he
Speaker 3: wants that play to stay in the game.
Speaker 8: Well, it's not a great football play.
Speaker 9: And then certainly when you look at what happened in
Speaker 9: the Washington Commander game where Frankie Louvers launching over.
Speaker 4: The top, which I mean it's a tough play to stop.
Speaker 9: We've actually had more success, and we had some studies
Speaker 9: ran we've had more success with a traditional quarterback sneak
Speaker 9: than we have with you know, whatever you want to
Speaker 9: call it, brotherly show.
Speaker 3: I think Philadelphia is still going to be dominating with
Speaker 3: the quarterback sneak. I agree because of that line.
Speaker 9: In that quarterback, I mean they do a great job
Speaker 9: and I mean Jalen Hurts can squat the house.
Speaker 8: They do a good job of just you know, winn
Speaker 8: in the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 9: It all starts right there and they get really low
Speaker 9: and they've they've perfected it.
Speaker 2: Take me back to the Joy and Love Draft. How
Speaker 2: many different players did you have penciled in for that draft?
Speaker 4: Pick? What picked? Were we?
Speaker 8: I can't remember, uh what pick? Yeah, I'd say twenty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how many?
Speaker 2: How many players did you have on the board that
Speaker 2: you were thinking of taking if the draft played out
Speaker 2: how you thought of it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was certainly a couple.
Speaker 9: And I think, you know, it's a credit to Goody
Speaker 9: and his staff just having that vision of if you
Speaker 9: don't have a quarterback in today's game, you're you're you're screwed.
Speaker 9: So let's just throw it out there. It's it's just tough.
Speaker 9: So you need to have that position solidified. And we're
Speaker 9: lucky we got him because I think he's a He's
Speaker 9: not only a great player, but I think he's an
Speaker 9: even better person. And I just love the energy comes
Speaker 9: in with each and every day, and he works his
Speaker 9: tail off and he's continuing to develop as a leader.
Speaker 2: It's like taking a two, but you don't get your
Speaker 2: grade till three years later because you draft him and
Speaker 2: then you sit him and everybody is like, you know,
Speaker 2: you wasted two years with Rogers, or you don't take
Speaker 2: a wide receive? Were you taking a wide receiver?
Speaker 8: Yeah, potentially if the right guy was there.
Speaker 3: But who would that have been?
Speaker 8: Oh? I mean there was some good ones, so.
Speaker 9: I know I went, you went one before, Yeah, I believe.
Speaker 9: So I think San Francisco traded up.
Speaker 3: Would you have taken Ayuk if he was there?
Speaker 4: I think potentially.
Speaker 9: I mean I don't want to speak for everybody in
Speaker 9: our organization, but I think that certainly would have been
Speaker 9: in the discussion. I think Jefferson went, yeah, Chase. We
Speaker 9: knew he was going to be gone, so but yeah,
Speaker 9: Jefferson was right there in the wheelhouse. So I mean,
Speaker 9: there's always you better have a few players that are
Speaker 9: kind of there for you. And I think the controversy
Speaker 9: of that whole deal was that we traded up to
Speaker 9: go get Jordans. If we would have stayed there picked him,
Speaker 9: I don't I think it would have been less.
Speaker 8: Obviously, it still would have been a big story.
Speaker 9: But I think the fact that we went up to
Speaker 9: go get him, and but I do think obviously it
Speaker 9: was the right decision.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I understand that, and I thought you guys would.
Speaker 9: I love Yeah, I need I need that support from
Speaker 9: my Packer fans.
Speaker 3: I think you're good. I think you're good on that.
Speaker 3: But you you have to place that call to Aaron.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how was that interesting?
Speaker 8: I think he was shocked.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll play Okay, Yeah, oh hey, hey, coach, what
Speaker 2: what what happened?
Speaker 9: I don't think that that was like, what the bleep?
Speaker 4: I think there was more of that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, so so what the bleep just happened? I
Speaker 9: will say, I mean, whether that was or whatnot. But
Speaker 9: he did go out and had two pretty damn good
Speaker 9: years back and back.
Speaker 3: Yeah you pissed him off?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah. What memories do you have playing for the Omaha Beef?
Speaker 4: Oh, the Omaha Beef.
Speaker 9: Probably the rump Roasters, which were these three hundred pound men,
Speaker 9: three hundred plus pound men that would go out there
Speaker 9: at halftime and perform for the crowd.
Speaker 3: That's what you remember.
Speaker 8: No, not really but I just thought it was a
Speaker 8: good story.
Speaker 3: What kind of quarterback were you for the omahak Beef?
Speaker 9: Probably not a very good one, No, I just I
Speaker 9: was kind of a run around guy and can make
Speaker 9: some plays with my legs.
Speaker 3: Do your players ever bring up your career?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: Do you ever?
Speaker 9: I'm sure they do behind my back and probably make
Speaker 9: fun of me a little bit.
Speaker 3: But do you have your Omaha beef jersey?
Speaker 4: I do not.
Speaker 2: Damn I'd love to have that. I'd love to hang
Speaker 2: that in the man cave. Yeah, that never found your
Speaker 2: Omaha Beef.
Speaker 4: I don't think they.
Speaker 9: I mean, I think the budget was a little bit different.
Speaker 9: They probably were used it for the next five years.
Speaker 2: So sometimes we get caught up in oh, you never
Speaker 2: played the game, but you played the game you didn't play,
Speaker 2: you know at the NFL level?
Speaker 3: Sure, how much does that impact you? Do you think
Speaker 3: when you're especially.
Speaker 2: When you're calling plays and trying to put yourself in
Speaker 2: the position of Jordan or Aaron Well.
Speaker 9: I think having the quarterback background certainly helps. I think
Speaker 9: it allows you to kind of see the game and
Speaker 9: feel the game through the lens of the quarterback, which
Speaker 9: is I think most play callers are trying to do
Speaker 9: and how do you set that guy up for success
Speaker 9: and ultimately score as many points as you can. But
Speaker 9: you know, I don't think it necessarily matters. You've seen
Speaker 9: great coaches that have never played football that go on
Speaker 9: and have great careers, and you know, but I was
Speaker 9: fortunate for my time. I started out of Western Michigan
Speaker 9: as as a walk on and as a receiver, and
Speaker 9: then when I transferred a second of ally, I didn't
Speaker 9: really know if I was going to play quarterback or receiver,
Speaker 9: and it just it worked out that way, and I
Speaker 9: started for three years and we had a lot of fun.
Speaker 10: Yeah, holy Dan, I got a couple of updates about
Speaker 10: coach laflores time at the Omaha Beef on Beefootball dot
Speaker 10: Com as always so already was before you got here couching.
Speaker 4: Are they still rolling right now?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, you.
Speaker 10: Went into the Hall of Fame in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 10: the Beef Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wait a minute, I was wow. Around of a
Speaker 4: blog probably my proudest accomplishment. And Dan, also, if.
Speaker 10: You go to their website, you can get custom jerseys,
Speaker 10: so you could have one made for yourself.
Speaker 9: You know, what Maybe my wife can do that for
Speaker 9: me for my birthday or something Christmas.
Speaker 3: That'd be nice, nice little beef gift.
Speaker 7: There.
Speaker 3: It's great. See you, Thank you for joining us. Good
Speaker 3: luck with the draft. Who are you taking it again?
Speaker 4: That's a great question. A lot of unknowns in this draft, guys,
Speaker 4: a lot of unknowns.
Speaker 3: So wait there they are right there.
Speaker 4: It's who are taken you guys? Tell me I don't know.
Speaker 4: You gotta know pick twenty three.
Speaker 2: You don't normally take a receiver. Now you're gonna take
Speaker 2: a wide receiver.
Speaker 4: What do the fans want?
Speaker 8: I'm sure, I'm sure they want some wide receivers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 9: So I go to my kids basketball events and certainly
Speaker 9: somebody will just slip me a piece of paper with
Speaker 9: their pick for us.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and then you could go, oh, I
Speaker 2: never thought about that.
Speaker 3: Thanks. I never would have known that. Man, maybe you
Speaker 3: get a wide receiver.
Speaker 4: We'll see.
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2: He is Matt Lafleur, the Packer's head coach. Thanks an,
Speaker 2: thank you coach.
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Speaker 2: My thanks to the Packers Matt Lafleur stopping by. I
Speaker 2: was keeping an eye on Pauli's body language because he's
Speaker 2: a Bears fan. So how difficult was it for you
Speaker 2: to act like you like coach Lafleur.
Speaker 4: I hate that he's a good guy.
Speaker 10: I hate that he is a nice guy, was friendly
Speaker 10: to everybody and likable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he says he's not in his high school hall
Speaker 2: of Fame. What don't you think you'd put him in
Speaker 2: just because he's the Packers head coach.
Speaker 10: Seems very accomplished.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's in the Omaha Beef Hall of Fame.
Speaker 10: Yeah, he was second ballot he got in the second
Speaker 10: year of eligibility.
Speaker 6: Okay, yes, Tom, And who would be then in his
Speaker 6: high school health if someone created a QRE for a
Speaker 6: disease or something like that, why would he?
Speaker 2: His mom is in the Hall of Fame, and I
Speaker 2: think his sister in law is in the Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame of his high school. But him and his brother's
Speaker 2: brother is a offensive coordinator for the Rams. I guess
Speaker 2: they haven't accomplished enough to get into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Would you update the poll results? We got Doug Gottlieb,
Speaker 2: the Wisconsin Green Bay head coach who we spent some
Speaker 2: time with last night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got two of them up there right now.
Speaker 4: They're pretty similar, all right.
Speaker 5: If you were betting should or Sanders goes top five
Speaker 5: or second round right now, seventy seven percent have him
Speaker 5: going second round.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 5: And then if we change it up and say, if
Speaker 5: you are betting shooter Sandals will go top ten or
Speaker 5: second round.
Speaker 4: That's at fifty to fifty. Okay, We'll see how that
Speaker 4: one progresses throughout the hour.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the Saints, given with Derek Carr's injury status,
Speaker 2: is maybe that'd be a place where he lands. He's
Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb, the University of Wisconsin green Bay head coach,
Speaker 2: host of the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio,
Speaker 2: as well as we make way for the head coach
Speaker 2: of the Phoenix product placement. You got everything that says Wisconsin,
Speaker 2: green Bay.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that's the job.
Speaker 3: Don't need a wardrobe, you got it?
Speaker 4: I actually don't. That's the weirdest thing.
Speaker 11: It's like, you know, money wise, everybody says how further
Speaker 11: the dollar goes in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Then you throw
Speaker 11: in that you don't actually ever have to buy clothes.
Speaker 11: You just wear a DSGB gear and you're saving money
Speaker 11: on a daily basis.
Speaker 2: If I said two years ago you'd be sitting here
Speaker 2: and we would be talking about your first year as
Speaker 2: a head basketball coach, you would have said what.
Speaker 4: I would believed that.
Speaker 11: I'm not sure I would have believed Green Bay or
Speaker 11: how everything transpired, but yeah, I mean I felt more
Speaker 11: and more prepared to take this on with every passing
Speaker 11: year because I invested more and more into not just
Speaker 11: the craft of broadcasting this from It's no different than
Speaker 11: a radio show or a TV show, or when you're
Speaker 11: calling games and you've done it. There are people that
Speaker 11: do it and there are people that live it right,
Speaker 11: and I felt like I was a guy that really
Speaker 11: lived it and really kind of invested in, Okay, what's
Speaker 11: this process? I actually like, how do you put together?
Speaker 11: As Scotty import and all the things that I had
Speaker 11: thought I had known as a player and studied some
Speaker 11: As a broadcaster, I'd gone to a deeper dive of
Speaker 11: because I just had that burning desire every time a
Speaker 11: game would be done. Every time you just left with
Speaker 11: this hollow feeling. There's no win, there's no loss when
Speaker 11: you're broadcasting games. So as much as there was a
Speaker 11: lot of pain this year, there's still you're alive if
Speaker 11: you're feeling that pain, and you feel very much alive
Speaker 11: when you're coaching.
Speaker 3: What did you not expect that happened?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 11: How long's the show? Honestly, the hardest part is at
Speaker 11: the start I learned it and at the end I
Speaker 11: learned it. I'm not great at saying no to people
Speaker 11: I care about, and between when you're hiring people and
Speaker 11: it's not going to work and you have to not
Speaker 11: hire somebody or not offer a scholarship to a player
Speaker 11: that a dear friend has sworn by or then at
Speaker 11: the end when despite the fact that the kid is
Speaker 11: a great kid, you got a part company because we
Speaker 11: just have to get better.
Speaker 4: We still are in the We want to form great men.
Speaker 11: We want them all to graduate from gb We want
Speaker 11: to be productive members of society.
Speaker 4: We wanted to have jobs here. We got win some games,
Speaker 4: and so.
Speaker 11: You know, sometimes those guys shake your hand and walk
Speaker 11: out the door and put themselves in the transfer portal,
Speaker 11: and you're legitimately sad you're going to miss them because
Speaker 11: they're good human beings. They filled up your life with
Speaker 11: good energy.
Speaker 2: You win four games, and I'm curious of you and
Speaker 2: your radio show, your reputation, how much that impacted, how
Speaker 2: much criticism you received by just winning four games.
Speaker 11: Oh, I think it was ten to twentyfold what anybody
Speaker 11: else at our level ever got. We say this around
Speaker 11: the office, and I say it in recruiting. There's pretty
Speaker 11: much eleven college basketball teams that people care about. There's
Speaker 11: the ten best and then there's us. Right, there's the
Speaker 11: ten best, and it's it's it was wild.
Speaker 2: I mean, we had But do you think that it
Speaker 2: felt like ESPN was going out of its ways, yeah,
Speaker 2: and others and others.
Speaker 11: Yes, but yes, I mean it was it was crazy
Speaker 11: like like yes, like FanDuel was tweeting a wrect like
Speaker 11: I have no relationship with FanDuel. I've never said anything
Speaker 11: critical of FanDuel. You know, the companies that we work
Speaker 11: for work with other companies other than FanDuel, But they
Speaker 11: were constantly posting like our record on their social media
Speaker 11: pagient like what is the deal with ESPN? I mean,
Speaker 11: I guess it's it's people defending Adam Schefter for a
Speaker 11: tweet which was categorically false, you know, so yeah, it did.
Speaker 4: It felt personal tweet.
Speaker 11: Well, Schefty had tweeted that Sack State had fifty million
Speaker 11: dollars in NIL and they were going after Mike Vick
Speaker 11: as their head coach. And it's just laughable. It's just laughable.
Speaker 11: And again my point, and I quote tweeted back replied
Speaker 11: to him, and it was like a nothing, you know,
Speaker 11: It's like it's one of those things where you tube bad,
Speaker 11: like come on, Schefty, like you know, it's like one
Speaker 11: of those check your sources. But I should have just
Speaker 11: texted him or DMed him.
Speaker 3: Can you not help yourself in situations like this.
Speaker 4: I'm way better than I used to be.
Speaker 11: Well, way, have you ever seen you ever seen the
Speaker 11: evolution of man post? He has no the evolution of
Speaker 11: man poster? Right where you go from like hunched over
Speaker 11: to where we are now, I'm somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 3: Dan, But you can't help yourself.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 11: When I was at when I left ESPN, that was bad,
Speaker 11: you know, like I just you know that feeling because
Speaker 11: you've done it, you did it before me. Where you
Speaker 11: leave and you fear irrelevance, right because when you're there,
Speaker 11: you're trained that this is the only.
Speaker 4: Thing that's relevant, This is the only thing I'm in
Speaker 4: sports that matters.
Speaker 11: Right, So I would say, yeah, I was totally addicted
Speaker 11: to social media when I left ESPN went to CBS,
Speaker 11: and it definitely ran me a foul there because their
Speaker 11: perception of how real social media is, how much it matters,
Speaker 11: I think skews in a direction which is not accurate.
Speaker 11: I think they think that's like the end all be all.
Speaker 11: They think the Richard Deitsch's of the world matter, and
Speaker 11: they don't. Right, So I'm better now. But again, sometimes
Speaker 11: it's just like he didn't need that one, right, didn't
Speaker 11: need that one? But the point was that like Sacramento
Speaker 11: State having fifty million dollars then an L and never, Hey,
Speaker 11: my bad, somebody told me something that is And I'm
Speaker 11: the bad guy for pointing out that everyone in sports
Speaker 11: that follows Adam Schefter knows that he just cut and
Speaker 11: pasted a text from somebody connected to the university that's
Speaker 11: not accurate.
Speaker 4: And it again, this is where you get.
Speaker 3: Do you think any publicity is good publicity?
Speaker 11: Yeah, unless it's like your personal life, your sex life
Speaker 11: or some of the stuff that's going on with other people.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about your sex life's let's not.
Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb, the University of Wisconsin Green Bay head coach.
Speaker 3: But if you look.
Speaker 11: So, I'm thinking of your word last night and so
Speaker 11: now it's in my head.
Speaker 4: I'm struggling. But don't do that to me, Dad.
Speaker 11: But you get Dan has a secret word, the secret word,
Speaker 11: and he planted it and everybody And do you guys
Speaker 11: know what an earworm is? The earworm of a song?
Speaker 11: Like I have an earworm of that word, and like,
Speaker 11: just do not say that, do not say that. You
Speaker 11: want to keep your jab okay.
Speaker 3: So you keep you know you're going after Lebron or Lebron.
Speaker 2: I didn't go after Lebron. Okay, I never went after
Speaker 2: the bar. You said Lebron's son couldn't play for you,
Speaker 2: you had guards.
Speaker 4: I did not hold on me. I didn't say he
Speaker 4: could not play no.
Speaker 3: Team.
Speaker 11: I didn't think he would start, Okay, Yeah, in hindsight, Yay,
Speaker 11: probably would have started, not over Anthony Roy. Like, hey,
Speaker 11: just see, you know with Lebron, Anthony Roy averaged thirty
Speaker 11: a game. He's leading the country in effective field goal percentage.
Speaker 11: He's a walking bucket. He's an amazing, amazing young player. Okay,
Speaker 11: so that's my comp My comp was, I don't I
Speaker 11: never thought that he's a point guard.
Speaker 4: Okay, and you know the he's not better than Anthony Roy.
Speaker 11: And it was Jeremiah Johnson, who was a top one
Speaker 11: hundred and fifty kid who's the same age as Bronni
Speaker 11: And like you're defending your guys as part of it.
Speaker 11: But yeah, like I thought he would have to compete
Speaker 11: to start at Green Bay. In hindsight, when he started, probably, yeah,
Speaker 11: he's a good player. Like at the mid major level
Speaker 11: is where he should have gone. I stand by that
Speaker 11: he should have gone to Ducane for a year and
Speaker 11: played for Lebron's like best friend, got in his confidence.
Speaker 11: And then if you want to start this has been
Speaker 11: such a dog and pony show, and Lebron's gone around
Speaker 11: the country, you know, chastising Stephen A.
Speaker 4: Smith and tweeting me for.
Speaker 11: No reason, because all I've ever done is been honest, Like, sorry,
Speaker 11: I saw your son play in the Mission League. He
Speaker 11: was not one of the ten best high school players
Speaker 11: in that league. He was the best high school league
Speaker 11: in the country, but he wasn't. I didn't say he stinks.
Speaker 11: I didn't say he can't play. I never said he
Speaker 11: can't play at Green Bay. Just the evaluation was completely false.
Speaker 11: He wasn't a no one was fighting over him to
Speaker 11: be a second round pick. JJ Reddick saying he earned
Speaker 11: all of this, Like what are we even talking about?
Speaker 11: So again, if he develops into an NBA player, great,
Speaker 11: If this path makes him into something that we didn't
Speaker 11: see coming, awesome, But like, don't bs us and then
Speaker 11: chastise us for giving honest basketball opinion, right, I don't
Speaker 11: think I made it personal. And then he quote to
Speaker 11: me and here's the here's the crazy part about it.
Speaker 4: Here's great, did you know I signed Lebron. Did you
Speaker 4: guys know that?
Speaker 11: Yeah, last night sign we signed Lebron Thomas, who's first
Speaker 11: team Junior College All American. Right, super talented kid. But
Speaker 11: you'll love the story. So, in the process of recruiting Lebron,
Speaker 11: he's at Vincennes Junior College and his parents are in
Speaker 11: South Carolina. So the day before the dead period where
Speaker 11: you can't go out and see people during the Final four,
Speaker 11: I flew down to South Carolina because, like, if you're
Speaker 11: gonna send your baby to Green Bay, Wisconsin to play
Speaker 11: for me for two years, like you're gonna want to
Speaker 11: face to face and meet the guy, right. So I
Speaker 11: go down and I meet his parents and they're lovely,
Speaker 11: and we're walking out from a restaurant in Columbia and
Speaker 11: his dad grabs me and he's like, hey, coach, g
Speaker 11: one more thing.
Speaker 4: What's the deal with Lebron tweeted at you.
Speaker 11: I'm like, Oh, is this gonna be a problem.
Speaker 4: It's like no, no, no, I think it's great. We'll
Speaker 4: have Lebron play for you and Lebron tweeting at you.
Speaker 11: So the point is in the any publicity is good publicity.
Speaker 11: We use it in recruiting where we're like, hey, if
Speaker 11: there's one hundred people who are now tweeting and caring
Speaker 11: about Green Bay basketball who never did before and really
Speaker 11: don't now, they just want to tweak us when we're down.
Speaker 11: If seventy five percent of them eat their words next year,
Speaker 11: that's seventy five more people than ever cared about Green
Speaker 11: Bay basketball. And my players come to my defense because
Speaker 11: they know we're doing the best we possibly can buy
Speaker 11: them and we just fell short too often.
Speaker 2: Do you want to set the over under only for
Speaker 2: Wisconsin green Bay wins next year?
Speaker 4: Let's go they had four.
Speaker 10: I'm going I'm going twelve and a half.
Speaker 3: Twelve and a half.
Speaker 10: That's aggressive, twelve.
Speaker 4: And a hook.
Speaker 3: How about you? Seeton?
Speaker 4: I taking the over or under on that?
Speaker 3: You're going over under?
Speaker 4: I'm a believer. I'm going with the over.
Speaker 2: Dug Okay, I got you, Dug probably like thirteen yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: like a big believer, but like thirteenth.
Speaker 4: That's a massive improvement.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tom, what about you?
Speaker 7: Yeah? I could see fourteen fourteen wins?
Speaker 3: Marvin, I'm going with the over.
Speaker 4: Also, yehow's twenty plus? Anybody I know? Dan?
Speaker 2: No, he did say that he would double his wind
Speaker 2: total though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you did guarantee that.
Speaker 4: We're going games next year. Yeah, we're going We're going games.
Speaker 3: How many games do you think?
Speaker 2: I don't what's the successful Just give me a successful number.
Speaker 11: I never said that before, So why would I said now?
Speaker 11: Because I'm asking successful. Seaon for us is we want
Speaker 11: to have a bye in the Horizon League tournament. We
Speaker 11: want to have a buy one of the that's one
Speaker 11: of the top five seeds in the Horizon leagueurnament.
Speaker 2: By the way, didn't you critique Caitlin Clark's shooting form?
Speaker 4: Yes? Okay, yes, but see that that's where you like, No,
Speaker 4: what do you know?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 4: What do you mean?
Speaker 11: No? Hold on wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
Speaker 11: wait I could critique show No no, no, no, no,
Speaker 11: how many divisions on men's v log.
Speaker 2: If you ever have a shooting Oh I have to
Speaker 2: play now to understand shooting. No again, I haven't coached
Speaker 2: a game, correct, I probably can coach and win four games?
Speaker 4: Again? Yes, I could probably win five.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, see.
Speaker 5: Just in the in the in the in the sake
Speaker 5: of fairness, what you are the guy Dan who told
Speaker 5: Ray Allen he was shooting the ball wrong? To face
Speaker 5: to his face, you did you did say you know
Speaker 5: you're doing that wrong?
Speaker 3: First to his face?
Speaker 11: First of all, what was the actual tweet? What was
Speaker 11: the actually was? It was the tweet she can't shoot, no,
Speaker 11: or you talk about her form. She was shooting the
Speaker 11: ball from the lesser side of Durant does and it's
Speaker 11: a no, he does not the end, not in the end, right, Okay,
Speaker 11: But she wasn't. She has she had a little Lonzo
Speaker 11: ball and she since adjusted it. And the point of
Speaker 11: the tweet was, it's amazing how much work she's put
Speaker 11: in to shoot through a shooting flaw. Okay, to shoot
Speaker 11: through a shooting flaw, where like Klay Thompson like that's
Speaker 11: how you're supposed to shoot a basketball. That looks like
Speaker 11: the picture of how every person is supposed to the basketball.
Speaker 11: There's no Reggie Aloisious Miller, you know, shot the ball
Speaker 11: with two hands.
Speaker 7: It's not.
Speaker 4: But he shot through a flaw.
Speaker 11: It actually shows he has greater work ethic and confidence
Speaker 11: because no matter what how you're supposed to do it,
Speaker 11: he did it so often and with so much confidence
Speaker 11: he could make it in spite of it. Okay, but
Speaker 11: if you watch Caitlin Clark's form. Now, take a snapshot
Speaker 11: of it. Take a snapshot of it last year when
Speaker 11: she was heading into the WNBA. She's changed and fixed
Speaker 11: her shot. People don't want to hear it because I
Speaker 11: was a bad shooter in college. My issue was one,
Speaker 11: I was a Heinz fifty seven guy, so many people
Speaker 11: making suggestions that it was constantly moving around. And two
Speaker 11: it became a self confidence thing. But if I couldn't
Speaker 11: physically shoot a basketball, I wouldn't have been recruited by
Speaker 11: the number of schools that was recruited by The shooting
Speaker 11: issues didn't stop us from winning.
Speaker 4: And oh yeah, by the way.
Speaker 11: They didn't actually occur in terms of fundamental flaws. But
Speaker 11: look if if out there that's my job, Oh it doesn't.
Speaker 11: Just a head coach. It wasn't as the head coach.
Speaker 11: That was when I'm just a radio host and basketball analyst. Coach,
Speaker 11: check the time stamp on.
Speaker 3: It, Give me the time stamp on that.
Speaker 4: Okay, that was?
Speaker 9: That was.
Speaker 11: That was before I became the head basketball coach at
Speaker 11: Green Bay and since I've become the head basketball coach,
Speaker 11: we talk about the same thing.
Speaker 4: We talked about.
Speaker 11: Do we do we fix a guy's shot and change
Speaker 11: his form, which you have to strip it back down
Speaker 11: and then build it back up, just make an adjustment
Speaker 11: to it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think may first.
Speaker 4: What day did I get the job? Dan? Thank you?
Speaker 4: So what was my job at the time that I
Speaker 4: made the tweet?
Speaker 3: Your job was to be a radio host.
Speaker 11: And college BASKETBA analist And oh yeah, by the way,
Speaker 11: like this is the amazing thing about me. Whether I
Speaker 11: like it or don't like it, the reality is that
Speaker 11: I do have this unique ability to draw reaction, to
Speaker 11: draw reaction.
Speaker 4: You do, Okay, you do? So, Okay, I just I
Speaker 4: stand by my analysis of a shot. Okay.
Speaker 11: Her three point numbers had gone down when she was
Speaker 11: at Iowa, and they were lower when she was in
Speaker 11: the w NBA, And by my assessment, it was because
Speaker 11: she was so good.
Speaker 4: She was getting guard further and further out, and she
Speaker 4: was shooting further.
Speaker 3: And further out. She thanked you yet, No, but you
Speaker 3: do know.
Speaker 4: Who her boyfriend is, right, yeah, Connor McCaffrey.
Speaker 11: Okay, do you know Connor McCaffrey's dad is yeah, Okay,
Speaker 11: you know he recruited me a notre dame. He's like
Speaker 11: a second father. To me is a mentor to me.
Speaker 11: So yeah, like I'm, I'm, We're good. It's not like
Speaker 11: Kaitlin Clark's going around. She's not like Lebron James or
Speaker 11: she's so insecure that she wants to tweet at.
Speaker 3: Me, right that that should help you today.
Speaker 11: Well, it's the reality, like why are you tweeting about
Speaker 11: me on your day off?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: He's Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2: He guarantees at least thirteen wins or something like that.
Speaker 11: Hold on, can I I know you got to go?
Speaker 11: I know, yeah, uh, you guys were awesome last night.
Speaker 11: I mean, let's be honest. Frank was really awesome last night.
Speaker 11: He carried, he carried the thing.
Speaker 3: But I truly appreciate, not just understand how to be
Speaker 3: Stockton to Malone, it's it's you should know this when
Speaker 3: you you assist somebody, that's.
Speaker 4: What it was doing you a company.
Speaker 3: It was and you said he carried the show.
Speaker 4: That's worth I was tweaking you the way that you
Speaker 4: always tweak.
Speaker 2: Me sometimes your words hurt dog, was working your words,
Speaker 2: hurt dog.
Speaker 11: I was working my way you make I know you
Speaker 11: shots beautiful. Thank you couldn't guard a soul. But I
Speaker 11: never said I could.
Speaker 4: That's right, you are who you can defend.
Speaker 11: But I mean it, like, first of all, I think
Speaker 11: you see from the outpouring support from people you know
Speaker 11: here at the bar to when you're around town. It
Speaker 11: means a lot to people of Green Bay that you
Speaker 11: guys brought the show here by the show.
Speaker 4: And it means and.
Speaker 11: You know, Polly and Seaton and I we used to
Speaker 11: be right next to each other in a cubicle at ESPN,
Speaker 11: and I mean to go from there to where you
Speaker 11: guys are here and to still be honestly gracious with
Speaker 11: your time last night, I truly truly appreciate it. Look,
Speaker 11: I get it, like the numbers, the record wasn't good.
Speaker 11: We're gonna win, It's gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 11: But your just support of showing up is awesome, and
Speaker 11: it's mentorship and friendship.
Speaker 3: I truly appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that he's Doug Gottlieb feels like PAULI may
Speaker 2: have written a little bit of what Doug just said there.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm proud of myself.
Speaker 3: I was the feeling. I mean, it had a tinge
Speaker 3: of sentiment there.
Speaker 4: He was amazing. Is the singing voice. He brought down
Speaker 4: the hut.
Speaker 3: No he can't say.
Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta go, Doug gottlieb everybody. We'll be back
Speaker 2: after this.
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Speaker 2: This is the best crowd that we've had since we've
Speaker 2: been in Green Bay doing the show. Yeah, easily, yeah,
Speaker 2: the best. Probably not as good as tomorrow, but there,
Speaker 2: as you know, for today, they've been great festive. We
Speaker 2: have a meet and greet a little later on tonight
Speaker 2: the same place here four to six. The Danuts are
Speaker 2: a little upset. Paully is the spokesperson for the Danets.
Speaker 2: What are you upset about?
Speaker 10: I gotta tell you, dan we live for a couple
Speaker 10: of things. You buying us dinner or someone bringing us
Speaker 10: free gear when we're on the road. We really thought
Speaker 10: Doug gottlie the head coach of Green Bay Basketball, was
Speaker 10: going to bring a swag bag for us. We were
Speaker 10: almost I would say he's the word expecting, but I'll
Speaker 10: use the word expecting.
Speaker 4: I mean a hoodie. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, the bar gave us jackets, satin jackets, hoodies, and
Speaker 2: here's Doug. Doug doesn't care. Doug cares about Doug. Apparently
Speaker 2: it had been nice if you brought some gear, then
Speaker 2: we wear the gear and then you get product placement.
Speaker 3: That's what happens here.
Speaker 5: You know what that's a first year head coach. Yeah, though, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's all happening right.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Whenever I'd go to Duke and Coach k would load
Speaker 2: me up with Duke stuff. Big bag, Yeah, big bag
Speaker 2: John Wooden. When I went to interview coach, wouldn't he
Speaker 2: gave me gear?
Speaker 3: You know, just being a pennant. Yeah, maybe you know
Speaker 3: one of the nets when they won a championship, you know.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Coach Ewing came by that one time.
Speaker 2: Yes, he did, Dear big bag of swag, that's what
Speaker 2: he's that was his nickname, Big Bag of Swag.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: Frank Kelly Endo, who apparently dominated last night. He will
Speaker 2: join us coming up final hour of the program. He
Speaker 2: was great though, it was so much fun.
Speaker 8: He was wonderful.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, I apparently say the word wonderful too
Speaker 2: many times.
Speaker 3: Apparently, according to twe of your go to compliments.
Speaker 5: Yes, and usually when you say it, you say it twice.
Speaker 5: This is a wonderful, wonderful person.
Speaker 3: Now it's in my head. Yeah, you're welcome. You know, Frank, It's.
Speaker 2: Kind of like Doug had a shooting tick. You know,
Speaker 2: it never left him. That's now, this wonderful is going
Speaker 2: to be there.
Speaker 5: Do you remember when we had the uh we were
Speaker 5: in the attic early early day of this show, and
Speaker 5: you had a crutch where you would say that's just it.
Speaker 5: You would so somebody would say it. You go, that's
Speaker 5: just it, And we started having the that's just it
Speaker 5: buzzer and the minute you said that's just it, we would.
Speaker 4: Go bang, I did it again.
Speaker 7: Or something's great theater. You were big on that, this
Speaker 7: great theater.
Speaker 2: You have no business saying anything, no business you're not
Speaker 2: piling on me.
Speaker 3: Hey, look at me.
Speaker 2: Frank Calaedendo is going to join his final hour of
Speaker 2: the program, Dan and the Dan Nuts here in Green Bay.