WEBVTT - My presence is a curse (w/ Tanner Devore) 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:21.200 We are here today, back at the Mercyner Calm with 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:22.479 a very special gap. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.360 It's an emergency. Yeah, this is an emergency. 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:26.840 This is the tornado. 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:30.960 Well, we put on the camo today. Okay. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:32.320 When I saw you at the door, I was like, 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:35.320 thank God, he's wearing camo, because on ironically, in my closet, 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:36.279 I was like, what do I put on? 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:37.279 And I was like, I'm gonna wear a. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.159 Camo, and like, and I wore camo for you, but 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:42.920 I didn't wear a real tree but I almost put 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:44.320 on real tree slides. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:46.360 But I was like, it's a no shoes kind of day. 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:51.440 You go on. It's like very like kin would wear camo. Yes, exactly, 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:55.520 exactly exactly the best kind of. 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.040 If you don't know, this is Tanner. He is hilarious. 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.840 He I found you on TikTok forever ago because you 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:08.959 were one of the first actually and ironically, you were 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.080 one of the first creators on TikTok that I found 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.399 where I was like, there's comedy. 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:14.880 There's real comedy out here. 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:16.119 We went that damn Dog. 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:20.479 Yeah, that's literally the first question I had for you 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:22.360 is what's the story behind the damn Dog? 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:24.360 Okay, so me and my friends have always been the 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:26.160 type people that we used to like send dog reaction 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.360 photos because I feel like they just capture something that 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.360 we can't as people. And we would always send that 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:37.800 ugly beautiful sorry, thank you ugly no, because I found 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.480 him on pinterress and I was like, Okay, ever one. 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.480 That dog on picturess is like, what are you looking at? 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:46.479 Let's wake that up, Like you don't need pretty teeth 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.760 to be pretty, like pretty ugly like this Zar Larsen 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.640 that Yeah, but no, they had that shahuahua on pinchers 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:54.160 and I was just like, ugly little dog and like 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.200 I would send it to my friends and whatever. And 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.840 crazy thing is it's actually a famous dog out of 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:08.040 like Mexico, and she she well, you're keeping her memory on, 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:10.760 That's what I'm saying. I feel like somewhere in their 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:15.960 house they are really happy. They have those candles in 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:16.440 the altar. 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.040 It's it's you with the green screen in front of 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:19.480 the dolls. 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.880 Was it did it like win like ugly dog contests 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:24.600 and ship like, is that why it's known? 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:29.639 Or you like just spodying this dead? 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.040 I think that because of statements like that, I think 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.960 she lived a very exclusive like to herself life. You know, 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.760 she was scared. The monster is the media. That's actually 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:39.799 how the media. 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:44.800 Was very like, it was very what's that word predatory? 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.920 It was very exactly. I was almost her manager, but 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.120 then I just was like, we can be coworkers. 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.680 Yeah, you just didn't feel right taking percentage from her, 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.040 Like I'd rather just do what good marriage does and 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:58.120 like put her face out there. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:03.079 Let women be women. Very the idol like we decided 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:03.959 the dog. 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:05.200 We're playing like an idol vibe. 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.519 Yeah, what are you in the sense that I think 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:11.360 I was Choiceyvon in that situation more than the weekend. Honey, 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.960 I'm the I'm the weekday. I'm not the kid at all. 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.120 Far from it. Now. Being in LA, every time I'm here, 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:19.840 I think about who I'm going to see, and I 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.800 was telling you, I'm like, I never see you guys anywhere, 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:24.200 but I swear to God, I'll see James Charles, motherfucker. 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:25.840 Like every time I'm here, I see James Charles and 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.000 Joshua bas And I'm like, what's the video where there? 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:31.760 Like Jay names are cursed. I'm like, baby, like where Isrew? 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:37.880 And like sho, I'm saying no, it is insane. We 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.480 are homebodies in a way, but I feel like I 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:42.800 was talking to somebody about this recently. I became a 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:46.320 homebody because I realized that my presence is a curse. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.760 So I just don't need some people anymore, like not 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:56.280 necessar not actually like my my present day sober, like 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:58.080 maybe sober. 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.040 Yeah, never been. You haven't been sober and fun Alifornia. 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:04.760 Counts for some thing for sure. 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:06.160 Just hot rooms instead of. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:12.440 Literally go out and get like so plastered and just 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.120 be fucking delinquent. 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.560 Okay, to be parasocial. I have never felt closer to 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.520 you than when you threw up outside on the curb, 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.880 like I genuinely not. 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:26.600 Yeah, that was my second throw up outside the first one. 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.799 I don't even know if I said in the podcast. 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.520 That was I did shrooms for the first time at 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.760 a party at literally the most. 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:36.320 Of the Trees by the way. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.280 Yeah, yeah, the worst ever I was going through it. 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:40.239 It was a birthday party. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:46.719 It was a birthday party, birthday birthday. He has a 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:50.000 really close and personal relationship with tennants of the Trees. 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.919 And like I we I threw the Spencer prap party 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:53.520 that they threw. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:54.440 That was me. 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:59.800 That was all me, I'm there a that coordinator, Yes exactly, 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.760 but yeah, worst place to do it at. And I 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:07.040 did shrims there, and I did throw up in their plants. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.960 Yeah, in the you gave back to the tree. See 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.840 it's fertilizer. It's fertilizer. You fertilize the earth. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.400 Yeah, it's like the fertilizer pure. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:21.640 Tequila and here you go plants. But like, we don't 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:25.680 want this baby away from a where they die. 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.599 But yeah, that was my That might have been like 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.480 my third or fourth throw. By the time we got 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.120 to the car, I think I had kind of like 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.440 i'd been in the bushes behind the car, like I'd 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:35.480 been kind of crawling off. 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.240 You were in the bushes for real. I didn't even 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.400 get like the spins anymore. I feel like I'm so 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.479 like present with myself when I drink now, or like 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:45.120 when I smoke or anything that I'm like, okay, I 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.320 know where you're going. Got to stop like like Narnia 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:48.920 like myself, where I'm like, don't go through that for 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:50.440 drobe like rabbit. 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:54.960 Yeah, I I had to stop drinking because well, this 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:56.560 is going to sound really dark and sad, but I 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.200 would drink to black out every time I drank, which, like, 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.640 I didn't know that that was an issue until I 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:03.880 almost died on the curve. 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.000 Very beautiful. You realize that issue way earlier than I 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:10.400 think most people, Yeah, because I think the average person 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.240 kind of is like, well, why would I drink too? 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.039 But see the tea is I wasn't like drinking every 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.039 single day. I wasn't even drinking every single week. It 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.960 was like once a month. But I would drink two 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:25.000 black out boots. It was fucked up, Like it was scary. 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:27.800 I might as well piss on the floor when you drink, 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.640 like it unleashes something out of you. And like some 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.760 people get really angry when they drink, or some people 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:36.479 like drink to blackout, Like when I drink, I am 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:40.520 satisfied with dry humping, and like I love that for 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.279 me because genuinely, I'm like, we don't even know how 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.080 to take our clothes off, like that one song, right, 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.640 because you'll just come over and we'll just bump dinnim 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:51.680 and I'm like that was enough. Like you rub those 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:55.120 jeans together so you're done up together? Baby eat it, 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.520 Hailey Bieber, Like that's how you do a gap. Jean honey, 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:59.840 you took the gap to the gap and rub you. 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:04.280 You guys are minding the gap, no, because I feel like. 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:07.000 When you bump like you're not even bumping uglies, you 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.720 are truly just like bumping like nothing. Like it's like 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:11.679 how sim suck? You're just bumping nothing. 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.320 Yeah, it's kind of beautiful, like to me, like going 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:18.800 all the way is such an earthly desire to stop 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:23.200 there is real Like it's like in a way grounding. 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.520 It's like taking off your shoes and standing in the grass. 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.200 I don't need to roll around in the grass and 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.280 like do a cartwheel or something. Just my feet on 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:31.280 this grass is enough to. 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.240 Let y'all are satisfied with that. 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.880 But for me, eight minutes and you have Drew screaming. 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.640 I'm literally feel it if people don't say this enough, 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:42.400 but what. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.840 It is, I can't lie. I'll be honest. I am 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:48.000 anti drunk secks. I hate drunk secks. I think drunk 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:49.840 sex is First of all, get the fuck away from me, 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.200 what are we doing? Second of all, I just want 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.840 to lay down like I've been standing all thatsy. 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:58.520 I smell like Carls Junior. I don't want to see 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:02.160 your car Jr. Like I really and to a point no, 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:03.640 And that's what I mean, is it take it back? 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:05.120 I feel like you could be sober ey whatever. I 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:06.400 will say. It took me a while. I mean, if 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:07.560 we really want to get into it, it took me a 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:09.120 while to be okay with morning sex in the same 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.680 concept that you're talking about about drunk sex. Because in 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:17.720 the morning. Back to Carls, I'm like, you don't want this, Like, 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.960 but if you don't want this chocolate cookie, you go 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:25.280 in the bathroom into a bird ba cookie. Yeah, they're 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.040 still raw cookie dough in the morning. You don't want 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:31.000 all that. If you bird bath in like mouthwash in, 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.199 do all the things in the morning and then lay 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:37.120 back down, you're cheating. Yeah, you got it. You're up 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:37.880 and out them by. 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.920 I'm not getting kidding me. You want us to go 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:41.600 back to sleep. 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:46.760 Also, represh smell like onions. You've got to go refresh, intermission, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:50.120 tap intap out, you go get it. Taking turn saving water, 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:52.760 taking turn saving you ever been at a party or 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.600 something and somebody does one of those things, You're like, 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:55.679 oh man. 0:08:55.520 --> 0:09:00.400 We should all brush our teeth right now. I love 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.000 the odorant. We should put on the odorant right now. 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.160 We were all dancing so hard we should brush our teeth, 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.960 and like we all been smoking so much Tony. 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.720 And it's crazy because like that has given me like 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.240 a bad breath complex because I'm like, they have no idea, 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:15.719 Like they're loud as fucking. 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.959 They have no idea, and they're breathing. 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:21.160 Everywhere like the whole club, the whole like laraty smells 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.160 like they're fucking stinky ass breath. 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.199 I'm miss intimate in the club. I will pull somebody 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:26.800 because I'm just so nervous. I'll pull somebody like low 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.079 we whispered your baby. I don't want to give you this. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.040 I want to If I'm gonna give, it's gonna go 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:31.839 to your neighbor behind you. 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:36.480 I subconsciously do that, like I don't even I whisper 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:37.640 in people's ears. 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:39.760 I do whisper, and I do one of these because 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:41.640 I'm like, what's also not about to happen is my 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.200 like breath is lingering all over the side of your face, 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:48.200 and now it's like causing other human reactor like. 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:51.520 You, like we should go and talk about it, like damn, 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:59.040 this must be an intense secret and it's like I'm coming. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:04.520 My god, that was you just entered a float. 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.920 That the fastest we've ever had a guest interflowst it. 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:11.440 Yeah, I've been sitting on that way a bad boy information. 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:13.400 That was really really special. 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.720 That was so fucking real. Also, it's just so earthly 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:21.480 to like you don't want to wait, like you don't 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.080 want to give there to be like you don't want 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.080 something to look forward to tomorrow. Everybody's so quick to 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.400 be like we must fuck now, must we? 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:31.439 Though that ain't even the best thing that's going to 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.920 come out of me. Like if you haven't seen my personality, 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.520 that's what I'm saying, Like I've got a bit for you, 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:39.720 or I've got like a cocktail bar to take you 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.839 two that's gonna be the wow factor, you know, Or 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:44.600 like you're going to tell that story about your grandma, 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:46.080 you know, and that's a wow factor. 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.640 Baby, I haven't even told the home invasion story, yeah, 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.560 like oh oh yeah, you were about to start on it. No, No, 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:55.600 I've told it like seventy six times. They even hear 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.760 me say that and they get pissed. Drew shut the 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.000 fuck up from a victim a big filmlet you. 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.640 Process one of the craziest things about La that the 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:08.240 task rabbits is. I did not realize that people have 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.160 booked task. I was to go get them in and 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:12.640 out because in and out doesn't do uber eats a door. 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:14.440 It's a real fucking thing. 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:16.760 I heard that recently and I was like, the. 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:20.880 Lows, the lows, the lazy, that's that's the thing that's 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.920 brilliant gold on because I've probably been at that place. 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.760 Like last night, I had to get shakeshack instead. 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:31.400 Of I just got in and out last night. This 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:33.040 is the It was the first time in a long 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.240 time I had in and out and it was really special. 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.640 You get it monster demon style whatever, Yeah, I get 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.959 a bagshot style mair s. 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.400 Yeah. People are just fun that they're like, we got 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:46.439 to clean the grill an animal style, like put all 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:49.199 the bullshit like burnt crisp on your burger. I'm like, 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:53.200 hell with a doggy style. All right, where's that style? 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:55.280 But yeah, I was. 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.280 I was telling Tanner that we uh glazed the funk 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.960 out of him all the time. Early when when people 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.360 ask us like who we think is funny, it's like 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:05.679 you're the first answer every time. 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.280 I'm not even kidding. Having like projector night with your 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.360 friends and then seeing your friends in person is like 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.480 oh my god. Because it's like people talk about parasocial 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:15.640 ship all the time, but like I am very proudly 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:19.200 parasocial with people online, and I'm like I love that 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.840 shit and like that when I like watch this podcast 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:24.400 all the time with my partner, will like watch it, 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.040 like will pause and discuss like so whatever, be like no, 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.320 and being like in the room where it happened, like 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:33.400 that's no, I appreciate it, Like yeah, I. 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.120 Know you're so fucking funny. I've actually gone on tangents 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:41.920 before where, like I show it, I've gone on like 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:46.319 crazy rants about how if somebody doesn't find your content funny, 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.520 it's one of two things. When they're not funny, or 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:52.040 they're straight and they're like too straight, Like it's like 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:56.120 so and it's it's not even like straight in a 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.320 homophobic sense, but it's like, oh, you're straight in the 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.760 way that like you actually don't understand that, like. 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.440 A straight edge of culture kind of thing. I have 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.960 a funny thing with straight guys though, because every now 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:09.600 and then on the podcast, I will say I'm like, 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.480 oh yeah to the five straight men that listened to this, 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.680 and then they will type some comment that's like, hey, no, 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.280 you actually like really help me like understand my girlfriend better. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:19.440 I'm like, okay, what fause? I'm like that's like wait, 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.200 wired no, like why we crying? Like no, But that 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.240 is sweet to me because I think sometimes, like I 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:27.240 feel this way about a lot of things. I think 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.440 we have to have somebody that is a bridge walker 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.840 between like what we think these people are and what 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.480 they are and a lot of times like we just 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.560 chop it up that like gay men don't understand how 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.360 to talk to straight man and straight maman don't understand 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.079 how to talk tobout gay men, and like women don't, 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.240 you know, get on their straight boyfriends about their gay friends. 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.120 Like there's like this whole thing of misunderstanding. But I 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.760 like the shit I talk about, like in my day 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:50.880 to day if I phrase it a certain way of 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.120 straight man's like, yes, I do feel bad. He just 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:56.040 was missing it because he didn't understand what queen kind 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.400 of lingis Tate mcray eighty four men. And I'm like, 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.120 that's fine, let me break it down me. 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:02.840 Yeah, No, I talk about this all the time, Like 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.000 I think gay guys need straight friends for themselves, but 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.320 also for straight people, like for a straight gus. 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.000 Also because I feel like gay guys have the luxury 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:15.120 of not It's like the one luxury being a gay 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.480 guy is because of that kind of or just like 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.680 a gay person in general, but specifically, like when I 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:21.920 think of masculinity and ideas of what it is to 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:25.040 be a man, like we think of the male loneliness epidemic, 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.200 but that I always think of like straight men under that, 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:31.040 because the one pro of being gay is like, Okay, 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.880 you are allotted this huge community of people who just 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:37.320 like at the ground level understand you and have like 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.280 open arms in the way that straight men don't have 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.720 towards one another because they're not taught that and they're 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:45.440 not in a position where they feel like they have 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:46.400 to go seek that out. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.280 Or if there is one, it's like, oh yeah, join 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.360 my discord where we learn how to like roof feed 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.440 people and like that's how straight people. 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.680 Are straight have a fitness plan and I'm excited to 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:57.760 see you boys everywhere. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.800 It's always like a multi level marketing course. If you 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.160 ever run a course I'm running four currently. 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.400 Actually has a crypto scam. 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.360 How to be friends with as many guys as possible. 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.160 Wait, no, I do feel like what you're saying, Like 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:15.840 I agree, Like there's a built in community. I love. 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:17.240 One of the best things about being gay is like 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:18.560 sometimes you can go on a date and you can 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.360 transition to friends. And I think that's such a like 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.480 unspoken like because when I go into a date, obviously 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.800 I want to make it work right. And like sometimes though, 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.040 I'll be in the middle of the date and I 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.040 start hearing like Charlie Brown teacher. I'm like, mom, wah wah, 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.280 and I'm like, wait, you might be my daughter, like 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.200 you might be my sister, And then I transition the 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.120 conversation and then we walk out of there where we're 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.520 like we're hugging it away. We wouldn't have if it 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.160 was like it's like, hey, thanks for the date, bro, 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:46.080 It's like why, I don't know. A lot of my 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.280 close friends were that were like, we went on two dates, 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:52.160 but you cannot fuck them. You gotta keep them in 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:53.840 there exactly, Lane. 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:58.880 I mean my sister. Both of my sisters famously lesbians, 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.800 and they talk about it often, like specifically my sister 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.240 who's like single and Internet of dating, how she's like, 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.040 oh my gosh, it is crazy. How like being a 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.440 woman already you have this weird thing of it, it 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.720 feels hard to reject and vice versa, even if you're 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.840 feeling it. And like she's always like, oh my gosh, 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.040 you put like me and another woman who lives in 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.160 that idea in the room, and like, okay, we both 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:24.920 find each other attractive, we both like enjoy talking, so 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.200 like why wouldn't we just give it a shot and 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.880 like that kind of thing, and like neither party feels 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.640 like comfortable enough to stray away because you don't want 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:34.440 to like this whatever thing is. She's always like, yeah, 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:38.200 I just end up with the person that like I 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:39.560 went on that one fucking date with. 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:43.880 It's also location matters, I think a lot too, because 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.480 like it really is like like you know one gay 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.000 guy and you know every gay guy. Like the population 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.760 of gay guys gay women is very small and tight knit, 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.880 so it's like you kind of do have to settle sometimes, 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:58.560 but it sucks. I just became gay last year, like 0:16:58.600 --> 0:16:59.960 I've been gay, but like we know. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.040 Then you have the camera on already, so you're kind 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:06.000 of you're developing, like we're cameo Trailblazer. Last week you 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.240 were wearing the mesh because y'all were outside. You were 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:20.680 at the messh Eagle, Yes, I was. I love the Eagle. Well, yes, literally, 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:21.960 when you walk into a bar and you were like 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:23.560 or a fly on the wall and you let yourself. 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:27.640 I'm not talking like personing wallflower, like no one needs 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.359 attention to me. No, I'm more like I'm looking on 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.479 the side, not with judgmental eyes, but just like data collection, 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.280 right the Eagle. You walk out of there, your eyes 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.040 are white as fuck, bloodshot, like tears in your eyes 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:40.840 are like what what is going on? 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:45.520 Like the place I've met the most broad array of characters, 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.800 because it's also like I don't know, it's so well. 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:52.520 We went to a Supreme party together and like infamously 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:53.480 lots of. 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:57.840 Straight people, oh for sure, and Supreme at the Eagle 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:02.200 or no, no no. I was at the opposite of 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:07.760 the Eagle, the viper room. Yeah all right. 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.159 But it was so funny because me Andrew were just like, 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:15.520 it's so interesting how tense this environment is, Like, yeah, 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.680 it does feel like I and in that way, I 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:22.919 have started to back up of like destroying straight man. 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:24.920 I've been trying to do that because I am like, Okay, 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:26.679 I guess if I do put it into context of 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:30.040 the world, to be a woman is to be overly 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:33.440 constructed and overly criticized and hounded on your whole life, 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:35.600 and then to be a man is to kind of 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.879 be ignored and or coddled, like you either get one 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:40.760 or the other. So I'm like, yeah, I guess that 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:45.800 makes sense why most men are actually lost as shit, 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:47.440 and when you talk to them, it's like, oh my god, 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.600 it feels like I'm talking to somebody who was just 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:51.199 on the news and was being held in a basement 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:52.080 for fifteen years. 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.080 I don't think the gay shit saved me. I think 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:58.720 being an only child and being a mom this boy 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.840 saved me. Wow, that's what it did. Because when you're 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:05.040 talking about like being coddled and like, actually that like 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:08.679 I think you were coddled. My mom is not a 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.720 boy mom by any means. But my mom is like, girl, 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:13.040