1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: The Around the League podcast takes what the defense gives it. 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another Around the League podcast. I'm Greg Rosenthal, 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: and I am in a room filled with heroes, not 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: as full as usual, but Mark Sessler is here, Chris 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: Westling is here, k Rich behind the glasses here. How 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: are you all doing tonight? We're good. I think it's 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: a glass half full of heroes something like that. Yeah, 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna have fun. Any this was a kind of 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: a crazy week. It was very crazy. A lot of 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: road upsets, a lot of road wins in the early game, 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: strange stuff. You know, it's a crazy week when Riley 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: Cooper's making plays after the catch and Mike Shula for 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: the Panthers is calling a creative game and Ron Rivera 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: is going for it on fourth down every day. I 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: mean that, that's when you know it's crazy. This is 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: the kind of Sunday where we sit the four of us, 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: and today Dan is not with us, as listeners can 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: already tell, uh, a cube of four facing each other. 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: Seven And at one point Greg just got up out 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: of his chair as he normally doesn't here and just 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: marched up and down the aisle. I don't know what 22 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: was going through your system at that point, but you were. 23 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: You were more excited than I've seen at any point 24 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: this season. I was well rested. There were a lot 25 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: of great games, you know, starting with I guess we 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: gotta get their Patriots Saints. That was That's the game 27 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: of the day, right is one of the games of 28 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: the season. Weird game. The Patriots pull it out with 29 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: a touchdown at the last second. They got the ball 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: back with under three minutes to go, or they had 31 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: the ball with under three minutes to go, they're stopped 32 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: on downs. Bilichick goes for it on fourth and six. 33 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: They basically turned the ball over. That game looks over. 34 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: Then Saints then kick a field goal. They get the 35 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: ball back again. Brady throws an interception, then the game 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: looks over. They stop him. They get the ball back 37 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: in a half empty stadium. Brady marches him down the 38 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: field and it's one of the most stirring Patriots wins 39 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: in a long time. The game is also though, I 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: feel like the laundry list of injuries that came out 41 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: of this. Some notables keep to Lead was hurt. He 42 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: had a hip injury. Jared Mayo heard his shoulder, Danny 43 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: Mendola had a head injury. Looked like he was concussed. 44 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: There were a number of Saints injuries, but they didn't 45 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: look as serious. So you're right that the Patriots are 46 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: piling up a lot of these injuries, and that's a 47 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: concern moving forward. But I don't think anyone's too concerned 48 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: about that. You know, after this game, Jimmy Graham, how 49 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: bad was his injury? That's right, forgot Jimmy Graham. He 50 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: had the ankle injury and he was in and out 51 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: of the game in the fourth quarter. Eventually had to 52 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: be helped uh to the locker room. It was just 53 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: a remarkable game. The Patriots, I thought, out played the 54 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: Saints for much of the game. They had the lead, 55 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: they didn't take advantage of opportunities. The Saints score on 56 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: a crazy third and twenty play to take the lead. 57 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: Brady missed a lot of throws in this game, and 58 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna get lost in the analysis. But 59 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: the difference between this Patriots team and other teams is 60 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: the defense is making plays for They got the ball 61 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: back from a couple of times at the end. The 62 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: Saints had six three and outs plus a four and out, 63 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: which was basically that late field goal. So the defense 64 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: for New England played very well. I've been holding up 65 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: Sean Payton as a paragon of aggressive play calling with 66 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: the lead. Please tell me he didn't get conservative on me. 67 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: He did, you know he counted on the defense of 68 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: Rob Ryan stopping the Patriots late a couple of times 69 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: when they got the ball back after the Patriots turned 70 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: it out over on downs. Weren't that aggressive when they 71 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: got the ball back after the interception? Half the stadium left. 72 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: Terrible job by Patriots fans, and I've I've killed the 73 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: Patriots fans over the year for not really being a 74 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: good home crowd. It's not loud, they're they're not football smart. 75 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: Patriots fans Red Sox fans, for instance, hate all the 76 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: other baseball crowds, and they think that other baseball crowds 77 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: don't know when to cheer, and they're not really smart 78 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: and they're not true big baseball. That's what Patriots fans 79 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: are for football. Does that make sense to you? The 80 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: wine and cheese crowd, the wine and cheese crowd and 81 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: cheese that's San Francisco. Come on, a lot of people 82 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: were leaving after they turned the ball over on downs 83 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: with two forty four left in a one point game. 84 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: That game is so far from over. And then a 85 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: lot more people left after Brady through the interception. But 86 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: if you just know the math, there's two twenty left 87 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: in the game, you have some time outs. They knew 88 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: if they could have stopped them three in a row, 89 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: they'd get the ball back and they had a shot 90 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: to win. He drives the length of the field. See. 91 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting point there, five and one. 92 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: Yet it seems like this Patriots team has already been 93 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 1: through more adversity in terms of probably I guess team 94 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: building and jelling then we've seen any new England team 95 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: in a really long time. I get the big story 96 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: all season has been, you know, Brady's broaders receivers in 97 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: early this week to study film and really get on 98 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: the same page. Are you actually seeing that happening or 99 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: is that a work in progress that even by the 100 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: end of this year we're still gonna be saying it 101 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: never really clicked. I think it will get better. There 102 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: were key drops in this game in the fourth quarter, 103 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: but more of it was Brady struggling. He ended up 104 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: with six point three yards birth attempt I think this 105 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: is a team that always is better in December than 106 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: it is in October. So the fact that they're winning 107 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: games the one thing that was missing this year. This 108 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 1: team reminds me a lot of the two thousand three team. 109 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: The one thing that was missing was winning some crazy 110 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: close games that you really didn't have any right to win. 111 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: That's kind of a Patriots thing, and that's what happened today. 112 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: Let's move on in our schedule and go to the 113 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: Packers and the Ravens. Packers pull out the win in Baltimore. 114 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: They lose James Jones and Randall cob to injury, but 115 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: they still find a way to win and basically held 116 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: the ball at the end of the game to win 117 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: it and not give the ball back to Baltimore. Are 118 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: we surprised green Bay was able to do this on offense. 119 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: It's only nineteen points, but it was enough to win 120 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: against a tough defense without those two receivers. I'm not surprised. 121 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: We talked on Friday about Green Bay's improved running game. 122 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: They now have three different yard rushers over the last 123 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: four weeks, and they had zero one yard rushers over 124 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: the previous forty four games. That's outrageous the improvement there. 125 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: That's one like offseason they decided we're going to become 126 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: a different team on the ground, and a lot of 127 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: times these plans, by about three quarters into the first 128 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: game of the season, you realize, Nope, not gonna happen. 129 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: Same old issues. They really have changed they have And uh, 130 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: how serious are the injuries to Jones and cop Well 131 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: Ian rappaport are. NFL Media Insider reported that both injuries 132 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: aren't believed to be too serious, but we don't know 133 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: what that means exactly. That means that they're not expected 134 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: to be season ending. They both feel like they escaped 135 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: them without a major problem, but they could still miss 136 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: some weeks and that's a problem for this off So 137 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: you might have Boyking as your number two receiver, which 138 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: means this offense might be resting on Eddie lacy shoulders 139 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: for a while. He's the first rookie running back for 140 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: the Packerson's nineteen seventy one John Brockington to go for 141 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: ninety nine yards and back to back games. I think 142 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: he's gonna be their focal point for a few weeks. 143 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: And you know, I probably still take their group of 144 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: weapons over what Baltimore has right now. I talked to 145 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: Patch a little bit during this game because he covered 146 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: this in terms of our right up on the site 147 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: and their run game right now looks to be what 148 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: used to be a real staple in Baltimore is struggling. 149 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: I still think Gray Rice is a top three back 150 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: in this game. He's a wonderful running back. But they 151 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: they're line even with Eugene Monroe. Patrick basically told me 152 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: it was it was a real issue today. They cannot 153 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: blow open holes in the run game. They were stopped 154 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: right in the goal line. They had Basically, they ran 155 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: a series of plays, got stuffed on a big scoring opportunity. 156 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: The Ravens of Old capitalized, and you know, I I 157 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: you had this as a hero pick because I thought, potentially, 158 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: this is the week that Baltimore tells us, No, you know, 159 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: we've had a lot of early season issues, but this 160 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: is gonna be our big signature win. It did not happen. 161 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: They don't have the weapons. They put up two touchdowns 162 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, but you're right, you can't survive 163 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: running for forty seven yards of Packers rush defense has 164 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: been very good this season, and you can't survive with 165 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: Tandon Doss was their leading receiver. Dallas Clark is their 166 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: number two receiver, and I don't know what the solution 167 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: is for that long term. Offensively, they've just been a 168 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: mess and hasn't gotten any better. Another offense that we 169 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: expected to be a mess today, we expected the Buffalo 170 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: Bills to just get whacked and not score any points. 171 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: But it goes into overtime. How did the Bills stay 172 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: in this game? This was years Chris Wesley. They went 173 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: major run heavy game plan in the first half. The 174 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: Bengals went up by two touchdowns in the third quarter, 175 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: and in the fourth quarter you could kind of sense 176 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: that the Bengals were slacking up a little bit on 177 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: defense and that Lewis made him pay for it. He 178 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: came back with two touchdown passes one forty yards. The Bills, 179 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: you could tell, thought that they could win some man 180 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: demand matchups with their speed on the outside with t. J. 181 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: Graham and Robert Woods and uh even Marquis Goodwin who 182 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: uh caught along pass. So that was how they got 183 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: back into it. But never in that game did I 184 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: think the Bengals did not have control. Even when the 185 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: Bills tied it I just didn't have that much confidence. 186 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: And Thad lewis playing on a bum wheel. How is 187 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: Cincinnatis spreading the ball around at this point in the season. 188 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: We they have a lot of young guys, new players. 189 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: Are you seeing You've watched all their games, have you 190 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: seen anything different last couple of weeks. Well, they used 191 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: Marvin Jones more today and he had two splash players 192 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: early that kind of got that offense going. He had 193 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: a I think a thirty four yard end around and 194 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: then he had a forty something yard reception and those 195 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: two big plays kind of jump started the offense. And 196 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: then they got Geo Bernard involved in the passing game 197 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: big time. And he just the twenty yard touchdown he 198 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: had was Barry sanders esk. He broke some ankles and 199 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, just juked a few guys out, took it 200 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: in from twenty yards out. He looked good. Buffaloes Now 201 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: at two and four, any hopes of a surprise playoff 202 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: run fading a little bit. Bengals in first place all 203 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: by themselves at four and two. We've popularized their new 204 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: phrase is a D after Dalton. That's the line in 205 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: which your quarterback is either a problem or he's not 206 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: and Dalton's right on the line. Is that line moving 207 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: slightly upward after this performance? I think it is. He 208 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: played well today. Now I don't think the Bills are 209 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in the NFL, but they 210 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: have been able to bring some pressure with Patton as 211 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator. And I think some other quarterbacks aren't 212 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: playing well. So you know, a guy like shop has 213 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: to fall behind Dalton. You know why I disagree because 214 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: next week we'll be here on Sunday night saying that 215 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: that line went back down. I just don't see him 216 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: doing it. Consists. That's the magic of the Dalton line. 217 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: It goes Dalton. I did like what he did again 218 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots last week, so a couple of things they did. 219 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be great for this team to 220 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: win eleven games and and make it to the playoffs. 221 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: He needs to be great to go far in the playoffs. 222 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: I don't think any of us believe that's gonna happen. 223 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: No one more thing on this game. We should mention 224 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: that Kiko Alonso is probably running away with the defensive 225 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: Player of the Year honors. He said he had twenty 226 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: two tackles today, defensive player of the year, defensive rookie 227 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: of the the year. I'm sorry, maybe defensive player that you 228 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: just don't want any headlines that you don't want to 229 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: be two more tackles than J. J. Watt head today. 230 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: All right, this has been a rollicking good time. You know, 231 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm happy about the Patriots, Wesseling is thrilled about Mike 232 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: Brown and the Bengals and what does this play along 233 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: with me? But we gotta get to some sad news here. 234 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: The Lions and the Browns today they were headed by 235 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: what ten points? And I said to you, you weren't 236 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: very optimistic even at that point. I said to you, look, 237 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: if they can't hold on to a ten point lead 238 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: at halftime against Detroit, you know that's a problem at home. 239 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: And uh, they didn't. You know, I have not seen 240 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: Stafford play a better game this season than he did today, 241 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: and I think it came against a pretty good defense, 242 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: to be honest that you know. My problem obviously with 243 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: Cleveland on the is is quarterback Brandon Whedon is not 244 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: ready for prime time and they're stuck with him, and 245 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: the other option is Jason Campbell. But really the story 246 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: of the day for me is exactly what Stafford did. 247 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: That team built itself a hole in the second half, 248 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,239 Speaker 1: and he kept working them out of it. And Megatron 249 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: was not at his best. He got eight targets today, 250 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: but he had only three catches. And he found Stafford 251 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: found Chris Durham as a target, and then he found 252 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: young tight end Joseph Fourier. Fantastic game, you know, and 253 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: he seems to have a knack for the end zone. 254 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: He's done this before. And you know what, you know what, 255 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: Cleveland made a tactical mistake early in the game. They 256 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: put up a small safety up against him, and he 257 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: just posted up caught it score. He's done that a 258 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: few times this year. They just looked for like they 259 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: don't use Scheffler and the ends, and they used Joseph 260 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: Fourier because he's so tall. I loved Joseph Fourier, by 261 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: the way. He is the new Bubba Franks. He's even better. 262 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: Seven catches this year, five touchdowns. Yeah, no, he's it's 263 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: not even just a scheme. Although he is tight end. 264 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: He has three touchdowns today, first tight end since the 265 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: seventy merger to do so. No one else has done 266 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: that in one game. I like it because he reminds 267 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: me of Christian. No one else has done what cat. 268 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: No tight end has caught three touchdowns in one game. 269 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: That's there's something different about Thatte rose Aio had three 270 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: last year in one game. Didn't Cameron have three? I 271 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: read that incorrectly, then remind the table it's all right, 272 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, I wish it wasn't true. I wish it 273 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: wasn't He is incredible. He is the Jerome Bettis of 274 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: tight ends with you know, every time Bettis would touch 275 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: the ball, score touchdow. He's the Chris Hoyles of of 276 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: tight ends. That guy would have like twenty home runs 277 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: in forty rb I every year. You know what I'm saying. 278 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: He was Chris Hoyle. I forget it. You know there 279 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: was a I actually I went out of my way 280 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: to write a separate post about an individual weed and 281 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: throw back in like Week two where he had a 282 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: wheel route to Chris Obenign just overthrew what would have 283 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: been a fifty sixty yard game if not a touchdown. Today, 284 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: trailing seventeen down by a touchdown, Whedon wings a pass, 285 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: comes out of pressure and wings a pass into space 286 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: that he claims he was trying to throw out a 287 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: bounds and DeAndre Levy jumps up for his second interception. 288 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: His first wasn'tthing of beauty. This one was just sitting 289 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: there in thin air. He picks it up and he 290 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: ends the game for Cleveland. It was such a disastrous 291 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: throw and it's not a throw the and an NFL 292 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: quarterback makes. It's it's disheartening to watch. I saw this 293 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: build on another website as possibly the worst throw ever 294 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL, and then I went 295 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: and watched it, and I thought it wasn't that much hyperbole. 296 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: It was really an awful It was an awful throw. 297 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: So you said, Weeden is not yet ready for prime time? 298 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: Do you think you know next year, when he's thirty 299 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: years old, he might be ready. He turns thirty tomorrow, 300 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: I think tomorrow, I think y. So happy birthday to 301 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: Brandon Weeden. You're crushing Mark Sessler's soul. Let's to the 302 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: Rams and the Texans. And we all thought this was 303 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: the week the Texans would get back on track. We 304 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: all picked him to win. We were all wrong. And 305 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: the final score thirty eight to thirteen is just an 306 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: eye opener. Westling, what was the biggest factor in the 307 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: Rams winning by so much. Uh, bad luck and a 308 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: defense that looked like it was tired of carrying the 309 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: offense in Houston and just kind of rolled over, had 310 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: no backbone whatsoever. Especially in the in the red zone. 311 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: They couldn't stop Zach Stacy, who is is playing well 312 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: but isn't a world beater at running back. We're not 313 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: talking Adrian Peterson here, but every time they needed to 314 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: stop on him, the Rams would just continue their drive 315 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: and really, Shop played fine, Shop played just fine. Um 316 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: I think it was. This is one of those games 317 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: where the Texans were averaging ten yards per play on offense. 318 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: Going into halftime. Arian Foster looked as good as he 319 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: has in three years. He looked legit. And you know 320 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: the penalties seventy five yards and penalties going into halftime, 321 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: two turnovers they just and then the second half they 322 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: had they gave up two touchdowns and within six seconds. Uh, 323 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: I think one was a pick six and the other 324 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: one was a punt return or a punt block, and 325 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: it's just all snowball from there. Is the best thing 326 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: that could happen to mattch Shop. You know what has 327 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: been a terrible month to to go out for a 328 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: brief period of time, have t J. Yates come in 329 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: and be potentially a bigger disaster, and then Shop comes 330 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: back and it's like he kind of put that fire. 331 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: Who's still sitting around calling for t J. Yates at 332 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: this that's a that's a fair point. Um. I was 333 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: gonna say the best thing would have been for him 334 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: to stay healthy for them to win this game, because 335 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: he was playing well enough to win the game. But 336 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: t J. Yates looked awful when he came in the game, 337 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: and we we had no high hopes for him. Anyway, 338 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: Even if shops ankle isn't healthy enough next week, I 339 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't expect Yates to play well. So Shob 340 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: left the game. After the game, Gary Kubiak said he'll 341 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: get tests on his ankle, his leg, a little bit 342 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: of everything. Case Keenum is there as an option there 343 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: two and four. And this is a team we thought 344 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: would be a playoff team, some of us did at least, 345 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: and you know they're at the point in the season 346 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: where they're almost reaching the point of no return. They 347 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: played at Kansas City next week too. That's not a 348 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: good matchup. That's a tough one one question, because the 349 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: big story there early in the year was the time 350 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: share in Houston's backfield. What's the situation with that right now? 351 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: There's no timeshare whatsoever. It's all Arian Foster. And frankly, 352 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: the people who were saying Bent Tate had a better birth, 353 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: so he was a better back. Bent Tate isn't isn't 354 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: close to Arian Foster as an NFL running back. Foster 355 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: is one of the top five running backs in the NFL. 356 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: And it's just it was to me, it was always 357 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: silly to say that Tate was gonna overtake the Arian Foster. 358 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes you just get the feeling it's not your year. 359 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: They outgained the Rams by two hundred and four yards 360 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: and lost by points. I have to believe that's the 361 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: first time in NFL history there's been that big of 362 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: a yardage difference and you lost by at many points. 363 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: So here's an arcane step for you. Arian Foster rush 364 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: for a hundred nine yards in a game in which 365 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: his team lost by points. The last running back to 366 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: do that was Gerald Riggs in see we can give 367 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: you statistics that are correct on this show. Another one 368 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: of your hero picks that went down in flames. Mark 369 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: Chiefs and Raiders. You took Oakland in this game, and 370 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: I think you did it because you thought Terrell Prior 371 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: could make some magic. Kansas City's offense is not that exciting. 372 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: For half, it looked like it was playing out that way, 373 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: and then I didn't see any of this game. It 374 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: seems like it went horribly wrong what happened prior. I 375 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: think the score does not indicate quite how how tough 376 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: Oakland played out of the gate. They were very dominant 377 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: over over Kansas City early on. But Kansas City's defense 378 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: is the real deal, and I've been hearing it from 379 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: Chiefs fans today as I think West has in the past, 380 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: because I basically argued that the defense is the reason 381 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: there's six and oh and the reason that there that 382 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: record isn't a complete mirage. But their offense, to me is, 383 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm at the first one to point 384 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: this out, is not exactly something that's going to scare 385 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: opponents on any level. Alex Smith was rushed real heavily 386 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: reminded me of that Giants forty Niners game last year 387 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: when New York, not a great football team, came out 388 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: and just hassled Alex Smith from the start, and they 389 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: won that football game based on that. That's how you 390 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: get to this Chief's offense. But you flip it around 391 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: and Prior, in a stadium where the decibel level was 392 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: broken in Seattle, suddenly has to try to go do 393 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: the same thing. Prior had numerous issues trying to get 394 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: the ball out, trying to start the offense up, get 395 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: plays off. They looked disorganized. He was sacked ten times today. 396 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: When is the last time we've seen that? And you 397 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: know what, the Chiefs defense is that good? The last 398 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: time a Raiders quarterback was sex ten times and the 399 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: last time the Chiefs had a defense at sex quarterback 400 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: ten who was the quarterback? Jeff George, good job there. 401 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: So I hope you weren't pressured to mention that the 402 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: Chiefs broke this. You know, in decibel level. I have 403 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: someone hand on my shoulder right now, right, I mean, 404 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: I got some tweet. You better mention this. Who cares 405 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: about breaking the decibel level? Please? But I will story 406 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: I've ever seen it is dumb, but in this game, 407 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: I do think it. It really impacted a young quarterback 408 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: like Terrell Prior. He just simply the whole Raider's offense, 409 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: and number one, you know what else impacted them losing 410 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: too offensive lineman for a team that's already lost about eight. 411 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: They simply had no one in there they could stop Chiefs, 412 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense from getting in there. I agree with 413 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: our man Dave Damnaschek on this issue of crowd noise. 414 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: If it happens in the natural flow of the game, 415 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: like Marshawn Lynch's playoff run against the Saints, then it's cool. 416 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: If you're doing it just a breaker record, it's it's 417 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: exceedingly lame. It's a little outside. The Chiefs fans have 418 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: been great all year. Don't get me wrong. I've watched 419 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: on Twitter, right, I just mean at the game and 420 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: I thought, wow, they make a difference. But when you're 421 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: getting all excited about making some decibel effort, like okay, 422 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: go home with your trophy for that, I mean, what 423 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: do you get for that? A few more points on 424 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: the Chiefs here we we said last week we asked 425 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: are they the best defense in the NFL? I think 426 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: they are. Well, I think it'll be interesting. Actually, I 427 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: understand the Texans right now are a suffering team, but 428 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: I'd like to see how they handle that challenge next week, 429 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: and I'd like to go see them play Denver. Okay, uh, 430 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: you've also mentioned they don't have much on offense. I've 431 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: got a step for you, Jamal Charles, first player since O. J. 432 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: Simpson in nineteen to have one yards from scrimmage and 433 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: a touchdown in each of his team's first six games. 434 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: He's an MVP candidate, Yes he is. You know, at 435 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: half he had to think forty five yards receiving and 436 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: the rest of the team had about thirty five. I 437 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: mean he he is being used to the max. We 438 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: knew Reid can do that with running backs in the 439 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: passing game. He fits the bill as that kind of 440 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: a player. But my problem is, you know, Alex Smith 441 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: is also, I think believe, near the bottom of the 442 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: list in terms of throwing passes twenty plus yards. They're 443 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: not pushing the ball to on the field. When Donnie 444 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: Avery is your deep threat, you got issues. He averaged 445 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: four point one three yards per attempt today. He didn't 446 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: come below the I don't know what that is, but 447 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: I think they're happy with it. I don't think they're there. 448 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: I think their philosophy and this is who we are 449 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: one point on any Reid Coach of the Year first 450 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: team since the nineteen six lines to go start the 451 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: season six and oh after having the league's worst record 452 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 1: the year before. Interesting get you can get. You can 453 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: print the playoff tickets. I mean that we'll see if 454 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 1: they could somehow win the division. But there's almost no 455 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: way that the Chiefs blow this. I think they're gonna 456 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: get to eleven wins. We have a thing on our 457 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: site today. If the playoffs ended, smack dab right now 458 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: through all the tiebreakers, Fanigan's Kansas City is the number 459 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: one seed and the Broncos are the fifth seed. Would 460 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: play the Bengals in the wild card. But that's ridiculous. 461 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: You know, Cincinnati can do nothing but go into a 462 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: wild card game and lose. Well. One team that would 463 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: not be in the playoffs if the season today, but 464 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: I still think they could get there is the Carolina Panthers. 465 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: And the reason I think so is because every couple 466 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: of weeks they come out and they just smack some 467 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: team around like it's a minor league squad, and you 468 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: just believe in this team. Their defense was dominant against Minnesota. 469 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: They didn't let Adrian Peterson run early in that game. 470 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: They didn't let Matt Castle get comfortable. They pressured him 471 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: all day, and the offense sustained drives. I mentioned it 472 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: at the top ron Rivera is going for it on 473 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: a couple of fourth downs. They pick them up early, 474 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: score a long touchdown drive their sustaining drives. Camp still 475 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: had those four or five throws that just made you 476 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: scratch your head and he just missed them. But other 477 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: than that, it was about as good an offensive performance 478 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: as you could ask for. And they win thirty five ten. 479 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: It was a game that was really never close. And 480 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: there are two teams entering today that had one win apiece. 481 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: But to me, they're so different. I mean, the Vikings 482 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: aren't a threat and the Panthers I think have a 483 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: chance this year. I two Vikings in this game because 484 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: I saw it as two pretty equal equal teams and 485 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: I wanted to take the home team. But after today, 486 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: I would say that the Vikings defense is overrated. We 487 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: thought they had a lot of talent, but they haven't 488 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: stopped anybody all year. And of all the units on 489 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: the field today, the Panthers have. The Panthers defense is 490 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: by far the most dominant and I'd be real concerned 491 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: for that front office and that coach because the whole 492 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: paradigm there which is gonna be we We're gonna be 493 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: a strong defensive team. We're gonna be a team that 494 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: runs Adrian Peterson right up the gut, and we, by 495 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: the way, we're gonna develop at least one quarterback while 496 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: we're here. Right now, you've got three projects and guys 497 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: who have never been seen as anything more than a project. Frankly, 498 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: and you know, I think, what Adrian, if Josh Freeman 499 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: probably starts next Monday night, but if that doesn't work out, 500 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: what what do you walk away from this season with? 501 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: If this, if the trajectory of Minnesota's campaign ends the 502 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: way it started. Yeah, if you're gonna take a positive, 503 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: there's no more quarterback controversy. I actually, I know it 504 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: sounds crazy if you look at the numbers. Matt still 505 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: did not play that bad in this game. He sailed 506 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: two passes that were happening to both be picked off. 507 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: One of them was late in the game when it 508 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: didn't matter. He actually made some plays on third down. 509 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: He was under duress. It was a full team meltdown. 510 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: Their defense was got no pressure on Newton at all. 511 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: Their offensive line isn't playing well, but it makes it 512 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: easy for them to just play Freeman next Monday Night. 513 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: Ponder is basically out of the mix and enjoy that 514 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: Monday night football game Giants Vikings combined record one and ten. 515 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: Dinner with the Wife next Monday night. Yeah, you don't 516 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: have to stay tuned to that. You know, we've killed 517 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: Mike Schula on this program repeatedly. Yeah, he got a 518 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: little crazy day, little frisky. He had a flee flicker 519 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: tight end screen. I've never seen that in my life, 520 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: and I thought maybe it was a weird improvised play 521 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: after the flee flicker, but it was clear it really 522 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: was a tight end screen off a flee flicker. Uh. 523 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: He did some end arounds, He had some nice called 524 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: runs for Newton. And the most important thing is when 525 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: it was twenty one to three, I thought, Okay, this 526 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: is where Mike Scheuel and the Panthers take the air 527 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: out of the ball. And they kept throwing. They kept 528 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: throwing on first down, intriguing fourth downs today to right right, 529 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: and that they started the game going for fourth, fourth 530 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: and short. So I loved what I saw at of 531 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: Carolina again, it's only one week. It'd be nice to 532 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: see them win a close game eventually, but it's a 533 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: step definitely in the right direction for Carolina. This Pittsburgh 534 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: Steelers took a step in the right direction today finally 535 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: winning the game. Uh they go to New York the 536 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: Geno Coaster crash this week. It's up one week, it's 537 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: down the next. The Steelers are one in four on 538 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: the season, and Chris Westling is a believer. Yeah. I 539 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: wrote an article two weeks ago the impetus was to 540 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,239 Speaker 1: Leavi Levi Brown trade, which you know is as far 541 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: as impetus, impetus high, as far as they that as 542 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: far as that, because it wasn't the best idea, But 543 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: I just in that division, nobody's running away with it, 544 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: and the Steelers, out of all the bad teams, I 545 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: think are the best team. And this is a game 546 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: we've waited for their defense to play like the Pittsburgh 547 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: Steelers defense, and you know, they were basing a rookie 548 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: quarterback and they kind of expected what you think of 549 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: Dick lebo defense is gonna do on the road against 550 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. And if Dan was here, he'd probably 551 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: be saying, let's bench Geno Smith right now. I don't know. 552 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: He called it the Geno Coast, and I think that's 553 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: that's approb it is. It's stunning, but that's what happens. 554 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: I guess when you're gonna put every rookie quarterback that's 555 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: drafted right into the fire in the NFL these days, 556 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna get this. I mean, I think Geno Smith 557 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: obviously has some talents. I mean, you can't look at 558 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: the Atlanta game and say he's completely devoid of the 559 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: ability to be a quarterback in the league. He looked 560 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: really good in that game. But then you get this 561 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: and I didn't watch this game closely, but you just 562 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: look at the result and it's like most of these 563 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: teams week to week, who are these teams? Because there's 564 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: no consistency with a team like the Jets. Well, they 565 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: had such an advantage just having Ben Roethlisberger, who is 566 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: rounding into form, had a clean game. I thought he 567 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: played well the week before the bye. So you know 568 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: they're on the board. The Jets are at three and three. 569 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: No one thought this is a team that's gonna go 570 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: on a bunch of winsteaks. I think they're hoping to 571 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: scratch out eight wins. But if any Jets fans were 572 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: getting the idea that this could be kind of a 573 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: sneaky ten e leven win team, you know, this was 574 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: a sobering moment. And they're not a healthy team either, 575 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: so that doesn't help on offense. They're just missing a 576 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: whole lot of weapons, you know. And Cromarty, by the way, 577 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: he went in with the knee injury, and Dan mentioned 578 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: that he really did not look healthy either in this game. 579 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: And he got fried on a big touchdown pass early on, 580 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: and for another you got it killed on a twenty 581 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: five yard pass interference. Culture just not a good game 582 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: for a defensive backfield. That's certainly Mrs Reebs. I think 583 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: we wondered about the Steelers weapons early in the season. 584 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: If Antonio Brown is a number one receiver, I think 585 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: he's on pace for over a hunting thirty catches now. 586 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: And Heath Miller and two straight weeks has looked really good. 587 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: They're coming around. You can't kill Avan Bill because he 588 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: was playing against big snacks today and nobody runs on 589 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: big snacks. Well, the Steelers host the Ravens next week, 590 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: so Chris Westleyan has this belief that the Steelers can 591 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: get back in it, and we were talking when when 592 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: would I jump on his belief that they have a chance. 593 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: They said, well, it's next week. If they beat the 594 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: Ravens and get to two and four and maybe the 595 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: Bengals are coming back to back, then they're in the conversation. 596 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: They have to do that first. It was a nice 597 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: first step today. Uh, they got off the schneid. The 598 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: Bucks did not. The windless Tampa Bay Buccaneers get excited. 599 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: Ka Rich behind the glass, you are rooting for a 600 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: first place out of his chair. I'm out of the 601 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: chair and I'm excited about Philadelphia and Kay Rich, all 602 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: I have to say is three touchdowns in the air, 603 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: one touchdown on the ground, Nick Foles. What more can 604 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: you ask for? Right, Well, let's pose the question to you. 605 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: Then it was asked to Chip Kelly after the game. 606 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: But Crystal Rich, do you keep Nick Foles in the 607 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: starting lineup? Let's say, even if Michael Vilke was healthy. 608 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: See this is really controversial for because I am a 609 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: big Mike Vick fan and I'm trying to not let 610 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: my fandom get in the way. But when you see 611 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: a performance like you just saw today. How can you 612 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: not start him? All right, let me play Devil's advocate. Listen, 613 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: Michael Vick didn't do anything to lose his job here. 614 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: And I get tired of the climate in the NFL 615 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: where anytime a backup comes in and simply does what 616 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks are asked to do. Okay, oh, there's a 617 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: quarterback controversy and Mike Vick suddenly. You know, if you 618 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: bench Mike Vick and invariably Foles gets hurt three quarters later, 619 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: you've got a disaster on your hands. Kelly said all along, 620 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna stick with Vic. You gotta stick with it. Well, 621 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: let's be fair. If Nick Foles did what he was 622 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: asked to they asked him to be Peyton Manning. I mean, 623 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: he was sensational today. Yards three touchdowns through the air, 624 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: one on the ground. He made a couple of very 625 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: beautiful deep throws for touchdowns. He was composed, he was decisive. 626 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: It was a great performance out of him. You put 627 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: Nick Foles in Tampa and there's just something in the 628 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: water down there, seven touchdown, there's something in the locker room. 629 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: Can't you can't put him in Tampa because Greg Ciano 630 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: checks under his bed for Nick Foles every time he 631 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: turns off the light. If I have one takeaway from 632 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: this week, it's that Nick Foles owns greg Ciano seven 633 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 1: touchdowns in two games against the almost seven hundred yards. 634 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: It's crazy. I did not Mike Glennon played well in 635 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: this game. This was my game. I thought he had 636 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: a really nice performance. Uh. And it wasn't just because 637 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: the Eagles defense was bad. He made some tough throws 638 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: under pressure, he picked up some third and lungs, and 639 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: it didn't matter that Eagles offense was too good. I mean, 640 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: let me ask you, though, you got you think that 641 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: there's a potentially good move for Kelly to make a 642 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: switch at quarterback that can I don't see that as 643 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: a good move. No. I don't think quarterbacks an issue 644 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: on this team. I think it's the defense they can 645 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: win with either guy. Everyone's gotten on Chip Kelly for 646 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: not revolutionize revolutionizing the NFL. Three teams in NFL history 647 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: have ever racked up four hundred yards from on offense 648 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: for six straight weeks. Four teams Chris did after you sold. 649 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: The Broncos did it this week too, and one of 650 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: those teams. So so here's the Eagles are the only 651 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: team since the merger with six hundred passing yards and 652 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: a thousand fifty rushing yards in the first six games. Now, 653 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: Michael Vick, we don't know if he's gonna be healthy 654 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: for next week. Chip Kelly did leave the door open, 655 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: said we're going to evaluate everything. He kind of made 656 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: a joke about it because he said Foals could keep 657 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: the job if you one a hundred for a hundred 658 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: with twenty seven touchdowns. He was like, well, did he 659 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: do that? Not quite, But we're going to evaluate it. 660 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: We'll see how healthy Vick is. To me, this just 661 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: makes it so that they can be really careful. Looks 662 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: like it was a serious injury for Vic. You can 663 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: keep them on the sidelines for one more week and 664 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: let Fulls do his thing. And he used thirty three 665 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: and he's in probably the final, you know, eleven games 666 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: that he's gonna play for the Philadelphia Eagles. I think 667 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: they can win both ways. And I really did think 668 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: at times today they looked a little more like the 669 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: Eagles offense that we expected in terms of moving the 670 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: ball quickly out of your hands quickly. Uh, And they 671 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: were playing in rhythm against a very good defense. I 672 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 1: was really impressed by Nick Foles. I was not as 673 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: impressed with the Broncos. I mean, but I guess what, 674 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: I guess we just built this thing up that when 675 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna win by fourth well, I mean, did anyone 676 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: expect this to be a close game in the fourth quarter? 677 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: Broncos Jaguars? It was close in the third quarter. You 678 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: know who? I wasn't impressed by two. I just want 679 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: to throw this out there, the Buccaneers crowd and all 680 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: the crowds out there today. There's all Eagles fans right 681 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: and in Foles actually had a quote where he he said, listen, 682 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: you know there were plays where I heard such an 683 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: uproar from the stands and they're down in Tampa that 684 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: I thought something must have happened. I didn't see an 685 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: interception of fumble, but no, it was Eagles fans cheering 686 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: on a good place. So yeah, not a high mark there. 687 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: So that's a bad job by the Buccaneers crowd. It's 688 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: a terrible job by the Patriots crowd to leave before 689 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: the game winning touchdown. Embarrassing. And it's even worse job 690 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: of the Texans fans to cheer Matt schob when he 691 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: got injured, and then cheer even louder when Yates came in. 692 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: That's an ugly moment that people will remember years from 693 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: now for the Texans. Texans fans also, we're throwing ice, 694 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: which raised the ire of J. J. Watt and Brian Cushing. 695 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: I don't think I would want to be on J. J. 696 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: Watt's bad side. Yeah, I agree with us. That would 697 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: be on rewarding all the players. After the game, Cushing, 698 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: I forget the word he use. He was disgusted by it, 699 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: and Andre Johnson was really upset. And this is something 700 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: that's gonna stick with that crowd. It's unfair. It's not 701 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: the biggest story. Maybe that brings the team together. Maybe 702 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: you guys can tweet us who you think was the 703 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: worst crowd, the Patriots or the Texans crowd. I know 704 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: everyone will probably say the Texans. Let's get back to 705 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: these Broncos. How did the Jaguars stay in this game? 706 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: You know it was the Broncos made more mistakes than normal. 707 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: Manning lost two fumbles, which when's the last time that happened. 708 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: He threw a pick six to Paul pause Luzni. They 709 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, the Jaguars got to hang around for a while, 710 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: and they showed some pluck they should. They played pretty 711 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: good defense for a while. Justin Blackman was unstoppable on offense. 712 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: They stayed in the game. They were within two points 713 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: in the middle of the third quarter, which Greg said 714 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: that could be the story of the year if that 715 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: kept up till the end of the game. It quickly 716 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: went downhill for them after that, but it would be 717 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: fun to root for a team where you win by 718 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: sixteen points. UH set the records that we just mentioned, 719 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: and we're sitting around the campfire asking what's wrong with Denver. 720 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: There was a little bit of annoyance in Peyton Manning's 721 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: UH postgame press conference. You know, people are kind of 722 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: asking him almost like it was like they lost the game. 723 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: And they asked him a question, how come you didn't 724 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: go after UH the fumbles that you snapped from the 725 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: quarterback exchange. I guess there were a couple of those, 726 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: And he said, don't don't say that like I never do. 727 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: Don't make that a rule, and he they were going 728 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: back and forth. I think he was a little ornery. 729 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: He even said, I think some people think that football 730 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: is easy, and it's not supposed to be easy. It's hard. 731 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: Even some people inside this building. I thought that was 732 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting. Maybe he thought people are 733 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: getting a little too you know, excited about Manning is 734 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: almost unimpeachable right now. He's got to be smarter than 735 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: half the coordinator is out there. He's playing at such 736 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 1: a high level and he's mastered the game as a reporter, 737 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be questioning what he's doing out there now. No, 738 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: with Denver's backfield, that was another one where it's it's 739 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: a it's a carousel of people. It looks like today 740 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 1: that might have changed a little bit. It's been Marino 741 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: for the last couple of games and they can't rely 742 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: on him, and he fumbled again. Monty Ball dropped the pass. 743 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: I don't think Monty Ball is playing with any confidence whatsoever. 744 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: And No, Shawan is exactly what this offense needs. He's 745 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: just he's rock solid, reliable, and he's great in the 746 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: passing game. That's perfect for them. Tell me something positive 747 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: at least about the Jaguars. Justin Blackman. We've been talking 748 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: about him since the preseason. He looks so much better 749 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: than he did last year when he came in out 750 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: of shape, couldn't separate from defensive backs. He was killing 751 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: Champ Bailey on the slant all day today. You couldn't 752 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: stop him. He looks like kind of a young an 753 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: Kuoon Bolden. He's kind of powerful after the catch, like that, 754 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: hard to take down. I like him a lot. I 755 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: think he He and Shorts are good twosome. Now they 756 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: had Shorts left game early in the first quarter with 757 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 1: a strained neck or shoulder. Hopefully that's not serious and 758 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: you should You guys should check out our what we learned, 759 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: our takeaways from each game at posts after the Sunday 760 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: night game, and one of the takeaways from Westling was 761 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: about Malik Jackson. So we're not just talking about big 762 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: name guys. Were talking about a defensive, interior, situational pass 763 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: rusher who's really emerged as a big time threat. To 764 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: check that out every Monday night. It's even sponsored I 765 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: don't know by who, but by someone, especially if you're 766 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: Malik Jackson's mom, because this might be the first time 767 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: in his NFL career he's gotten something. That's why I 768 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: want a numbered bullet point right on NFL dot Com. 769 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: I want to give him a leak some love. Uh, 770 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: we got to talk about the Seahawks. Give them a 771 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: little love. They continued Russell Wilson's undefeated home record in 772 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: his career, UH, with a victory over the Titans. That 773 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't overly exciting. It would have been 774 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: a bigger score for Seattle if there wasn't a ten 775 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: points swing at the end of the first half where 776 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: they had a field goal blocked and returned for a touchdown. 777 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: So really this game wasn't quite as close as it indicated. 778 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: But just kind of the Seahawks showing once again they're 779 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: gonna win the games that they're supposed to. Any big 780 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: any big takeaways from Ryan Fitzpatrick not winning in Seattle 781 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: not a huge shock here, you know. But the Titans, 782 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: I will say this, every game they've been in, every game, 783 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: they're they're a much tougher you know, last year they 784 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: were getting crushed on defense, giving up enormous amounts of yard. 785 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: It's just getting having points dropped on them week after week. 786 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: Is that Greg Williams, I think it. I mean, they 787 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: really are a much tougher team this season. And it's 788 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: a tough loss for them because you have to just 789 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: wonder what would happen if Jake Locker were still in there. 790 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: I thought, Uh, the announcer made an interesting point on 791 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: this gamer was on Twitter about Russell Wilson. I talked 792 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 1: about this last week that sometimes he's missing some routes 793 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: that are there because he's trying to do everything himself. 794 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: And I can think of a red zone play in 795 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: particular late in the game where he kind of he 796 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 1: has the slamp, but he starts running around and leaving 797 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: the pocket a little early. I think that happens because 798 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: they haven't protected him well. He had a very good 799 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: game overall, but they're still trying to find themselves. On offense, 800 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: they're not quite there. They ran the ball well late 801 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: in the game, they get the win, and they're trying 802 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: to improve their passing game as the season goes. Maybe 803 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 1: this was just because I was watching Maurice Jones Drew 804 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: in the other game, But every time I flipped onto 805 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: this game, Marshawn Lynch looked great to me. He looked explosive. 806 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: And you know, maybe it's because Maurice Jones Drew. Drew 807 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: couldn't get out of third gear whenever he had a hole, 808 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: So it's just maybe the discrepancy there, but also bad 809 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,919 Speaker 1: news for Seahawks opponents. Pete Garrels. Pete Carroll said after 810 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: the game, Percy Harvin's return his quote just around the corner. 811 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: Oh and good news for fantasy owners there the NFC 812 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: wait West Race. You know, at first there looked like 813 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: there might be some surprises. San Francisco is coming back 814 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: to the pack. They get the thirty two twenty win 815 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: over Arizona today. Now, therefore and to the Seahawks are 816 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: five and one. It's starting to look more like we expected. 817 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 1: The Cardinals and Rams both at three and three, so 818 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: they're not totally out of it yet. This was a 819 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: game where the offense and Vernon Davis especially got right 820 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: and at least they got something going in the passing game. 821 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,760 Speaker 1: He had a career highing yards at halftime. That's crazy, 822 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,760 Speaker 1: that is surprising. I mean, the Cardinals defense has played 823 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: well for the most part, but Carson Palmer put him 824 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: in a couple of bad spots in this game. He 825 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: was intercepted twice early and the talk started right away 826 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: on Twitter. Don't be surprised if you see Drew Stanton 827 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: that that surprised me. I would be surprised if we 828 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: saw Drew Stanton, wouldn't you? I would too, Although I 829 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: have to say you're getting from Carson Palmer. What is 830 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: anyone that's surprised right now that he had goes out 831 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: has a game like this? I mean, this is what 832 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: you knew you would have when you went out and 833 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: made Carson Palmer you're so called franchise quarterback for this season. 834 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what the question is, but the answer 835 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: isn't trusting it and they probably know that, you know. 836 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: But what about Kaepernick? I mean, is this Are we 837 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: disappointing with his play at this stage in the season, Yes, 838 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: a little bit? Yeah, wait, what do you need a 839 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: little bit? You just named him as your biggest disappointment 840 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 1: three days ago. I am, I need to look at 841 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 1: this one. His two turnovers in this game, Um, we're 842 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 1: probably mistakes. He could have avoided mental errors. He did 843 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: hit on some big plays at least in this game, 844 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: so that that was a positive sign. Kind of like 845 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: the Seahawks and the Patriots, the great teams in the 846 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 1: NFL win while they're figuring things out, and the forty 847 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: Niners ultimately won this game, a division game comfortably while 848 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 1: they're figuring things out, so that's a step forward for them. 849 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 1: One injury to watch from this game. Kent Summers of 850 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: the Arizona Republic said after the game that uh Fitzgerald 851 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: could barely bend over. He had previously injured the left 852 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: in hamstring, now he has a right hamstring injury, and 853 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: Calais Campbell left the field on a stretcher with the 854 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: neck injury. Reports were that he did have feeling in 855 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: all his extremities and early signs are positive for him. 856 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: But he's an enormous player for them. So they're gonna 857 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: be on Thursday Night Football this week Arizona and Seattle, 858 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 1: and if they're gonna hang around in this NFC West, 859 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 1: that's a big game. They've at least been a fun 860 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: team to watch because they have so much defensive talent. 861 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: In our final game of the night, Redskins Cowboys thought 862 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: there would be more fireworks in this one. Cowboys get 863 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: the win at home. Redskins in trouble here at one 864 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: and four in the NFC East. We've seen the Cowboys 865 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: secondary torch last few weeks and uh r G three 866 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: came out and it looked like the Bie week did 867 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,439 Speaker 1: him great his his legs look much more spry this week, 868 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: but they still only have one touchdown all year in 869 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: the first half on offense. So you know, as well 870 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: as r G three looked on the ground, this is 871 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: not two thousand and twelve RG three. Yet I was 872 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: happy to see if you're a Cowboys fan, the Dallas 873 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: doesn't come out and lay an egg after what was 874 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: an incredibly crushing loss last week. I still think this 875 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: team wins a division at about eight and eight. This 876 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: is one of the This is a wacky NFC East. 877 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: I know Greg has the Eagles here, but Dallas had 878 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 1: to come home and take care of business tonight. They did, 879 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 1: and it's more proof that this is a team game 880 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: and it shouldn't all be about the quarterback. Tony Romo 881 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: plays great last week, they lose. He has a so 882 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: so game this week and they win. But they get, 883 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: you know, a punt return for a touchdown, their red 884 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 1: zone defense does a good job and they get a win. 885 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 1: And for the Cowboys, the fact that they can win 886 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: any games that look like toss up games at home 887 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: are is a little bit of a step in the 888 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: right direction. One question I want to go back is Seattle, 889 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: right now the best team in the NFC. Yes, yes, 890 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: I think the Packers. I think the Packers can get there. 891 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: They've had a lot of injuries on defense and offense, 892 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 1: but I think they could round into form where where 893 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: they're right there. But right now, Seattle has to be consistent. 894 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: I chose Seattle because of the record and Clay Matthews, 895 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: James Jones, Randall Cobb's three very important players for the Packers. 896 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: We don't know how serious the wide receiver injuries are, 897 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: but they're just lacking talent if they lose that many 898 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,720 Speaker 1: key players. So we like the Seahawks. We like Nick Foles. 899 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: K Rich likes Nick Foles maybe a little too much. 900 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's not too much, Guys, I really 901 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: want Vick to start. I'm a huge vic fan. It 902 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: hurts me to say Nick Foles should start next week, 903 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: but you know, just being realistic, since we live in 904 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: a realistic world, I think that he should maybe get 905 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: the start and see what happens and if it completely 906 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: blows up. This happened to me last time, barrels On. 907 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: This happened to me last year. Foles played great in 908 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: Tampa and I was I could have sworn he was 909 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: gonna be one of those great rookie quarterbacks kind of 910 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 1: step back. We'll see what happens. We'll talk about Nick 911 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: Foles next week on our Recap, but you don't have 912 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: to wait until then. You can listen to us on 913 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: our Wednesday show this week. Please subscribe, leave comments, tell 914 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: your friends, tweet at us. Christal wants you to use hashtags. 915 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: That's all I got for you tonight for k Rich, 916 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Wesley. No, I'm Greg Rosenthal. We'll see you. 917 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: We