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Speaker 1: This is the best of two pros and a couple

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Speaker 1: Joe with Lamar arings and rating win and Jonas Knox

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Speaker 2: Of course, we will start with what happened last night

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Speaker 2: in Indianapolis where the Pacers rebound from whatever the hell

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Speaker 2: you called that in the second half in Game three

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Speaker 2: and make a little bit of a statement. And Tyrese

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Speaker 2: Halliburton is having the playoffs of all playoffs that I

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Speaker 2: can recall for an Indiana pacer outside of Reggie Miller,

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Speaker 2: Like he's been fantastic and incredible. Last night was really

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Speaker 2: his time to show. Like everyone's going to go back

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Speaker 2: to the choking gesture and the shot that went in

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Speaker 2: in Game one of this series, but last night was

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Speaker 2: an all around masterclass by Halliburn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean historic right him?

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Speaker 4: Jokich was it like Oscar Robinson the only two other

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Speaker 4: players we've seen in India history do what he was

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Speaker 4: able to do last night, And felt like time the

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Speaker 4: stop it. He was able to kind of put a

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Speaker 4: squash to it. So to me, it looked like a

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Speaker 4: championship performance. You know that the type that I can

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Speaker 4: player willing his team to get to the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 4: you know, maybe even continuing this run you're talking about

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Speaker 4: to help them win the NBA Finals. But hell of

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Speaker 4: a performance last night by uh Tyry Saliburton and just

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Speaker 4: you know again the dad back in the house and

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Speaker 4: maybe that did it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that that did to some.

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Speaker 4: Degree with the pops back in the house set a game,

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Speaker 4: Bridge field House able to watch it.

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Speaker 2: So I thought it was Kinsekoie the game is remember that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: But you don't remember that. He used to be called

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Speaker 2: the field House back in the day the Pacers. Yeah, really,

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Speaker 2: I did not remember that. Yeah, something like that. It's

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Speaker 2: like rich Stadium to remember it. Joe Robbie, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Can we have Lee looked at up? After a text

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Speaker 3: from Lee yesterday, I'm not sure he'd be capable of

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Speaker 3: much to that.

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Speaker 2: He's like, unbelievable. It's Taco Tuesdays, man, Uh var is

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Speaker 2: it over for the Knicks? Is the Undertaker calling it?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 3: It is over?

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Speaker 6: The series is over. It'll in in New York. But uh,

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Speaker 6: I just again, I just thought that the pace of

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Speaker 6: the game was too much for the Knicks. You know,

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Speaker 6: I never really paid attention to Karl Anthony Towns outside

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Speaker 6: of him shooting the threes. But I started watching how

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Speaker 6: he runs up and down the court. He doesn't move

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Speaker 6: very well.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if he's sore. I know he hurt

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Speaker 6: his knees of big games in the game or whatever.

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Speaker 6: He don't move very well. Man.

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Speaker 3: Like I get, I get that he's tall and he's big,

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Speaker 3: but he don't move well.

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Speaker 6: It's almost like he can barely run up and down

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Speaker 6: tired or just can't.

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Speaker 3: He just stops. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I was just paying attention to like I was noticing that.

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Speaker 6: I was like, that's pretty interesting. It almost creates a

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Speaker 6: five on four advantage for Indiana almost every single time

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Speaker 6: they're down on offense. And then I was paying attention like, Okay,

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Speaker 6: you know they're bigs, just don't they don't get back

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Speaker 6: very fast.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know, it's just a lot of.

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Speaker 6: Open shots there were, There were a lot of there

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Speaker 6: were a lot of missed opportunities for the Knicks because

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Speaker 6: they couldn't keep up with the pace of the Pacers.

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Speaker 3: It was just way too fast for them.

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Speaker 6: It caused it caused dress with Nie Smith and the

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Speaker 6: way he was staying in front of Brunson. Brunson wasn't

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Speaker 6: able to facilitate the way that he usually facilitates. It

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Speaker 6: kind of sounds like a replay of the OKC Timberwolves game.

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Speaker 6: And they made a lot of mistakes that a lot

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Speaker 3: I mean, the start of.

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Speaker 6: The third quarter was just horrible for the next you know,

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Speaker 6: they had no real continuity. They couldn't settle into, you know,

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Speaker 6: getting into the flow of the second half. They turned

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Speaker 6: three times in their first possessions coming into the third quarter.

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Speaker 6: It was a very that was to me, the quarter

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Speaker 6: that kind of made it made it bad.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 6: I know they came back and I know that they

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Speaker 6: you know, got to a point of where it turned

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Speaker 6: the pace, the intensity of the defense forced them into

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Speaker 6: two mistakes turning the ball over, and then it led

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Speaker 6: to ultimately them being able to get down court and

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Speaker 6: the New York Knicks weren't at full strength on that

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Speaker 6: side of the ball. When they were, they weren't closing

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Speaker 6: out on defense as well as they should have. Indiana

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Speaker 6: moved the ball very well and it ended up being

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Speaker 6: the opportunities for for open shots and they made them,

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Speaker 6: and Halliburton was was giving them a nice blend. You know,

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Speaker 6: they were going into the paint, they were making shots

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Speaker 6: I don't, you know, I still think, you know, I

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Speaker 6: don't know if it's going to be a good, good

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Speaker 6: final series. I don't know. It could be or it

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Speaker 6: could not be. It could be OKAC. But the Pacers show,

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Speaker 6: they show that they have maybe the ability to keep

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Speaker 6: up with the OKC team both defensively and and speed

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Speaker 3: Of the game. So maybe it'll be a good series.

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Speaker 6: But but as far as this one, the Knicks had

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Speaker 6: their chance and they they blew it terribly last evening.

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Speaker 3: You know, it is what it is.

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Speaker 2: When you saw the scores being what they were at halftime,

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Speaker 2: you knew the Knicks couldn't keep that pace up. They

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Speaker 2: just couldn't. Indiana can go like that's that's their style

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Speaker 2: of play. But even though the Knicks kept it close,

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Speaker 2: you knew eventually it was just gonna wear him down.

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Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns went down with the knee. He collided knees,

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Speaker 2: I believe with Nie Smith, uh in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: So he's got a ironic around that. Yeah, it is

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Speaker 2: kind of ironic.

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Speaker 4: And Smith and he smith that knee right. Send those

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Speaker 4: sassy passes anymore, No.

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Speaker 2: He couldn't, but says speaking of sassy Tyrese Haliburton spoke

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Speaker 2: afterwards about his performance and rebounding following a disappointing Game three.

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Speaker 7: Just trying to be aggressive, man, just trying to play

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Speaker 7: my best, you know. So I got to let the

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Speaker 7: could have been so much better. So I felt like

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Speaker 7: I responded the right way today. Just trying to be aggressive,

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Speaker 7: isolations and stuff, trying to you know, just you know,

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 7: You know, coaches always want me to rebound. Everybody's on

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Speaker 7: be the best I could, and you know, everybody's you know,

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Speaker 7: boxing their guy out, you know, especially Miss Robinson and

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Speaker 7: Josh Hart. You got so many guys who can just

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Speaker 7: crash the guy ass like Clary like crazy, sorry, And

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Speaker 7: I'm just trying to come in and clean it up.

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Speaker 7: And I thought I did a decent job at that.

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Speaker 7: But you know, still a lot of ways for me

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Speaker 7: to get better, us to get better as a group.

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Speaker 7: So none of that's possible without you know, full team effort.

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Speaker 2: So there's your eventual Eastern Conference Finals MVP Tyres Aliburt

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Speaker 2: and you know we'll call that shot right there.

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Speaker 3: Pretty crazy too.

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Speaker 4: That was the first home win for a team in

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Speaker 4: the series, So yeah, crazy, it's how it's how it's

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Speaker 2: And I know that Knicks fans are going to be

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Speaker 2: really disappointed and this is going to be uh maybe

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Speaker 2: they'll come back and they'll make a game of it

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Speaker 2: in game five and push it to six. But ultimately,

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Speaker 2: I think we're kind of seeing they're just not as

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Speaker 2: you just start to come to terms with the fact

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Speaker 2: that maybe the Knicks just aren't that good. You know,

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Speaker 2: like it was a fun ride, you know, it was great,

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Speaker 2: but you know, maybe they're just not that good. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there is that possibility that out.

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Speaker 4: You love Pilo on on New York fan base, You

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Speaker 4: really do, though, Yeah, this is one of your favorite

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Speaker 4: things to do. Is like, Oh can I just I

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Speaker 4: kick them while they're down before they're potentially out altogether.

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Speaker 2: I look, it's just they're so over the top. The

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Speaker 2: celebration was so over the top.

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Speaker 3: What does it sound like? Tell me what it sounds like.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it sounds like. It just sounds

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Speaker 2: like a bunch of a bunch of people who have

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Speaker 2: never seen a championship before that are just jumping around

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Speaker 2: for Joyce client stuff in the streets because you.

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Speaker 4: Can't do it fan impression. No, you can't do any

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Speaker 2: Now it's beneath me. I can't, I can't do it.

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Speaker 2: I just I look at him and I go, what

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Speaker 2: was the big to do?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: We got past the second round, all right, but there's

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Speaker 2: like two more series to go, and it feels like

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Speaker 2: all the air went out of the balloon, and especially

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Speaker 2: went out of the balloon when Tyrese Haliburton shot went in,

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Speaker 2: and they've just been kind of scrambling ever since, and

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Speaker 2: I think we're seeing the two best teams in the

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Speaker 2: playoffs thus far have been okay, see in Indiana, and

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Speaker 2: it looks like I know people aren't gonna like that

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Speaker 2: because they want a New York market in the finals

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Speaker 2: and all that, and I get all of it. But

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Speaker 2: the best matchup you could have right now, even though

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Speaker 2: OKAC will be the favorite, is Indiana and Oklahoma City

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Speaker 2: because both of them are deep. You're going to see

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Speaker 2: a lot of people get mixed into the rotation and

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Speaker 2: you're going to see Tyreese Halliburton and SGA get to

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Speaker 2: go Mono Imano to try and win a title for

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Speaker 2: a fan base that's never seen and the title be

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Speaker 2: won there before. So I'm looking forward to it. But

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Speaker 2: as far as these series go, I think it's a wrap.

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Speaker 6: Which is unfortunately damning about last night's game is that

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Speaker 6: statistically speaking, the Knicks were better in most categories than

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Speaker 6: the Indiana Pacers and still managed to lose by nine points.

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Speaker 6: You know, three pointers they shot at a higher percentage

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Speaker 6: and they only shot just one less. You know, well,

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Speaker 6: they they made twelve. The Pacers made thirteen, all right, Now,

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Speaker 6: they shot twenty eight times. They shot thirty two times,

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Speaker 6: but the percentage was higher right free throws. They won

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Speaker 6: in the free throws percentage, rebounds, they had more rebounds,

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Speaker 6: They had more offense, way more offensive rebounds, more defensive rebounds.

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Speaker 6: They didn't have great existence. They killed them on assist.

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Speaker 6: They got them on a steels and blood. They got

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Speaker 6: them on steals. They got them on steals. Tell you something,

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Speaker 6: blocks that they were even on blocks?

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Speaker 3: What about free throws? Go across the box? What was

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Speaker 3: the free throw?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean they made more field goals, made

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Speaker 3: It's just you never know.

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Speaker 4: So I'd like to think it wasn't a sassy pass,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and see if.

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Speaker 2: He's just a sassy passer. From now on, I'm into it.

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Speaker 2: So OTAs have started up around the NFL, and you know,

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Speaker 3: OTAs on the same team.

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Speaker 2: Uh well, no, he's TJ Watt as well too. But

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Speaker 2: we'll start with with Kirk Cousins. He decided not going

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Speaker 3: Least I'm just going to say.

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Speaker 4: Is there is there like a secret team kind of

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Speaker 3: That no one's talking about.

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Speaker 2: Should we guess?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, take a guy.

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Speaker 2: I do have game show music, all right, so probably

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Speaker 2: not this early, probably not please come on.

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Speaker 3: Today. Hell yeah, me wrong.

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Speaker 2: You're trying to shoot bullets, all right.

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Speaker 3: It's like ty Tyrace Halla Burton. That was terrible.

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Speaker 4: It's a great performance, right right, That's what I'm trying

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: So let's see secret team that would be in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, m.

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Speaker 2: The Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, I can't play the scam anymore then.

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Why not?

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Speaker 2: Oh you think that's that's a potential, like he would

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe there's something to that. I mean,

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Speaker 4: He knows the system, he knows the offense, everything else.

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Speaker 4: If if there's something that happens with J. J. McCarthy,

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Speaker 3: A sign back in Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: It's I'll throw it out there, throwing it out there.

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Speaker 4: There's another team though. That did kind of hit me

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Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, what the Saints?

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Speaker 3: Good, guess I'm not going to say the Saints.

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Speaker 4: For this reason, I think the Saints are tanking this year,

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's the Saints.

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Speaker 2: Imagine being a Saints fan right now, You're like, Man,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna suck next year. You know what, I got

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Speaker 3: Oops.

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Speaker 2: What a miserable existence as a Saints fan right now?

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Speaker 5: Wow?

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Speaker 3: You really there?

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Speaker 5: He'd like, what is like?

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Speaker 3: What says?

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Speaker 5: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was a thing until sitting there

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Speaker 3: Or jump you. They get the opportunity. So that was

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Speaker 4: Again that at least at least our Fox security had

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Speaker 4: There's one more, say the Giants. It wouldn't it would

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Speaker 4: I don't think that this is the off season for them.

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Speaker 3: But you're getting very hot. You're getting very close, very close,

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Speaker 4: I think they would be potentially interested. And and again

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Speaker 4: Now, last year was rough, but I also think he

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Speaker 2: So basically, if you're Kirk Cousins, you need either an

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Speaker 3: That's fair. Yeah, And it's basically what you need if

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, all right, so might as well just

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Speaker 6: hell I'm gonna be.

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Speaker 3: At Giles Camp? Or y'all OTAs, right, y'all kiss my ass.

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Speaker 2: They already paid him, right, he already got his ten

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Speaker 6: Can they go after his bonus? But OTAs are are

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Speaker 5: You have to be there?

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Speaker 3: Those are mandatory. O t a's aren't what what are

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Speaker 2: Voluntary?

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Speaker 4: So they find him that they are voluntary, they're not mandatory.

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Speaker 4: O tas are voluntary, mini campus mandatory, mini camps mandatory.

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Speaker 3: Voluntary means you don't have to go.

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Speaker 6: But that's there, right, I didn't know ot as. I

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Speaker 4: No, it's no mini campus mandatory. You're subjective fines. The

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Speaker 2: But isn't it even though they say it's voluntary, if

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Speaker 3: It's frowned upon. It's frowned upon.

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Speaker 4: It it's it falls in the category of you know,

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Speaker 4: It probably falls into the category of, you know, being

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Speaker 3: I would they do more than anyone.

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Speaker 5: Sure.

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Speaker 4: I just stated though that I think they're gonna be

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Speaker 4: tanking to try to get the number one pick next

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Speaker 4: year's draft because they want arch They want Arch. That

446
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Speaker 4: the story behind I mean, can you imagine falling in

447
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Speaker 4: his grandfather's footsteps.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the same name at the same team. I

449
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Speaker 6: wonder if he were the same number. Is his number retired?

450
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Speaker 6: I'm sure that would help be a debate, Yeah, I

451
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Speaker 6: mean it would it be, wouldn't they just asked, I

452
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Speaker 6: don't think that would be a debate.

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Speaker 3: Let my grandson wear it, Let them let him wear

454
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Speaker 3: them on number. It would be a man.

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Speaker 2: It would be pretty cla It would be pretty sweet though,

456
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Speaker 2: if they tanked for Arch Manning and then Archie Manning

457
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Speaker 2: orchestrated another Eli Manning to get out of San Diego

458
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Speaker 2: situation and said, hey, listen, like I played there, but

459
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Speaker 2: this place sucks. No, no, we're not doing this, and

460
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Speaker 2: then tries to get Dell deltwere at LEAs what number was.

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Speaker 3: Anywhere?

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Speaker 2: It feels like an upgrade at this point. Was arch

463
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Speaker 2: Manning number eight?

464
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Speaker 5: He was eight.

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Speaker 6: It's not retired, but it's kind of unofficially retired. It's

466
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Speaker 6: kind of understood you don't wear number eight. Any kind

467
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Speaker 6: of has to though, So I think that would be

468
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Speaker 6: kind of hard if he ended up in New Orleans

469
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Speaker 6: and got the number. What number is he in college?

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Speaker 2: Sixteen like his uncle?

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Speaker 3: Okay was it wasn't Peyton sixteen?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: In college?

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Speaker 6: It was was his sixteen college? Yeah, Okay, that would

475
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Speaker 6: be interesting. That's a whole lot of pressure though.

476
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Speaker 2: On the subject of t J. Watt that we mentioned,

477
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Speaker 2: because he was also a no show at camp.

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Speaker 6: That's a big deal. Man, It could turn into a

479
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Speaker 6: big deal if they don't if they don't want to

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Speaker 6: address this the right way.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's making half of what Miles Garrett is

482
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Speaker 2: getting this upcoming year.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean there's a couple of players in that

484
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Speaker 4: category and they both have something in common t J.

485
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Speaker 4: Watt and Trey Hendrickson, and they have in common.

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Speaker 3: They're both at rushers. What else, oh I thought they were?

487
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Speaker 3: They were going down the discrimination rode like, No, they've

488
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Speaker 3: both had a ton of sacks the past couple of years.

489
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Speaker 3: You know, you could make the case they've both been

490
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Speaker 3: up there for whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't say anything.

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Speaker 3: I mean, my goodness, you guys asked the question. I

492
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Speaker 3: answered you people.

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Speaker 4: I love making it about race when you come they're

494
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Speaker 4: both edge rushers who played phenomenal the past couple of

495
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Speaker 4: years and are looking for extensions, Like, yeah, they've got

496
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Speaker 4: that in common.

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Speaker 3: I mean, my gosh, I'm not sure what you guys

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Speaker 3: are talking about. Anyway, we knew exactly what you were

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Speaker 3: talking t J.

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Speaker 4: Watt is getting paid very similar transjicks and like half

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Speaker 4: of what Miles Garrett is now getting paid. And that's

502
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Speaker 4: that's like all these guys are looking at saying, well,

503
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Speaker 4: that's what he's getting. Maybe I'm not getting or surpassing

504
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Speaker 4: Miles Garrett. Even though all players think they're the best,

505
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Speaker 4: they should, they don't feel like they should be taking

506
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Speaker 4: a fifty percent haircut for the same production or better

507
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Speaker 4: production sometimes so you can understand why they're frustrated. And

508
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Speaker 4: this is when fans get upset about it. You got

509
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Speaker 4: to understand, this is the only leverage you have as

510
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Speaker 4: a player. The only thing you can really do is

511
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Speaker 4: not show up and force the team to have to

512
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Speaker 4: talk about you and force the team have to look

513
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Speaker 4: at your roster and look at this team without you.

514
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Speaker 4: That's the only thing you can really do as a player,

515
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Speaker 4: to flex or exercise your leverage after you have outperformed

516
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Speaker 4: your contract.

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Speaker 3: That I think we'd agree TJ. Watt.

518
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Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson also falls in this category. They've outperformed their contracts,

519
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Speaker 4: so it's never easy to figure out how to get

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Speaker 4: the done. But you'd have to think too. With Rogers

521
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Speaker 4: out there lingering TJ. Watt, you've you know, maybe they

522
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Speaker 4: can get both two things done at once whenever it happens,

523
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Speaker 4: But it's a lot of cap considerations to take into account.

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Speaker 3: I would assume they have to get it done. That's

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Speaker 3: a lot.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's one thing to have pressure on you

527
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Speaker 6: over a player that has done nothing for your organization.

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Speaker 6: You know, you wait for Aaron Rodgers. I think it's

529
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Speaker 6: I don't know, I think it's maybe it's better after

530
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Speaker 6: he signs, but man, it just feels like a bad

531
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Speaker 6: move to feel like or for it to have the

532
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Speaker 6: optics of you being held hostage by Aaron Rodgers until

533
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Speaker 6: he decides he's ready to come play for the team.

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Speaker 6: Maybe it plays out differently, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But with TJ.

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Speaker 6: Watt, come on, man, like he's beloved by the city.

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Speaker 6: He's he's earned that. That's not like he's he's like

538
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Speaker 6: an overrated, overblown guy that you know, is like the

539
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Speaker 6: hype of it all. Like dude is truly a catalyst

540
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Speaker 6: for the team. When he's in there, they win. When

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Speaker 6: he's out, they don't. And if you were to do

542
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Speaker 6: something that poisoned the relationship with TJ. Watt or some

543
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Speaker 6: way somehow it didn't work out with TJ Watt, it

544
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Speaker 6: goes back to the conversation I continue to have about

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Speaker 6: the pressure cooker that is being created in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: You could take some of that pressure off by signing TJ. Watt.

547
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Speaker 3: So I almost feel like they have to sign TJ.

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Speaker 5: Watt.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe they're in a scenario where you can't

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Speaker 3: get a deal done.

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Speaker 6: Oh TJ. It's just your price tags too high. I

552
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Speaker 6: just can't see how Pittsburgh. The only way they could

553
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Speaker 6: survive the way this offseason, and for what it's worth,

554
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Speaker 6: maybe the last two off seasons have gone for them.

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Speaker 6: The only way they can survive is by winning. And

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Speaker 6: how much of that went do they have to do?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Is winning good enough?

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Speaker 6: Like is having a winning season making it to the

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Speaker 6: playoffs that has now become status quo?

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Speaker 3: Is that good enough?

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Speaker 6: I would say with some of these mishaps, if there

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Speaker 6: was a mishap of not having TJ. Watt on your team,

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Speaker 6: if there was a mishap of all this discussion around

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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers didn't end up coming in

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Speaker 6: or didn't play well when he came in, are these

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Speaker 6: big enough issues for there to be a problem if

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Speaker 6: you just have a winning season. I think that that's

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Speaker 6: what this kind of is is kind of developing into

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Speaker 6: in terms of a storyline.

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Speaker 4: Who's what's interesting about these Steelers is they have six

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Speaker 4: months in the sixth most cap space in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: So they've got some cap space to work with and

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Speaker 4: extending out TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt. Even though we've talked about this before in our show.

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Speaker 4: The Pittsburgh Steelers are reluctant to give a ton of

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Speaker 4: money up front in regards to a signing bonus. That's

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Speaker 4: just something that they don't like doing. They might make

578
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Speaker 4: an exception here for TJ. Wat it would make some sense.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that I do love about how

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Speaker 4: they do business. It's very rare you see a ton

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Speaker 4: of dead cat dead you know, money on the cap,

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Speaker 4: and this this year is one of those instances where

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Speaker 4: there's not that much dead money on their cap and

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Speaker 4: that always helps when you're looking at like, hey, what

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Speaker 4: do these teams have a good amount of cap space?

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Speaker 4: Or you look at their rollover cap, right, moneys that

587
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Speaker 4: weren't spent last year that rollover this year. They didn't

588
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Speaker 4: have a ton from last year to this year, but

589
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 4: it's it's the top half of the league, and so

590
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Speaker 4: that helps in creating additional cap space to extend out TJ.

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Speaker 4: Watt to sign Aaron Rodgers. So there's there's all those

592
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Speaker 4: things that play a factor. But you know, I sit

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Speaker 4: there and look at it and say, it's not gonna

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Speaker 4: be easy to figure out a way of getting it done.

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Speaker 4: But these are two things you desperately need if you

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Speaker 4: want to compete, And I'm sure if Mike Tomlin has

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Speaker 4: any say, what's so he's pounding the pavement. I'm making

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Speaker 4: this happen. I can't imagine he wants to go into

599
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Speaker 4: the season with Mason Rudolph as their starting quarterback.

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Speaker 3: And not have a team that's anchored on one edge.

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Speaker 5: By TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watt, be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros

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Speaker 1: and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington

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Speaker 1: and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.

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Speaker 2: Like we do every single Wednesday. At this time. It's

606
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Speaker 2: about tradition, a man who would like to be celebrating

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Speaker 2: another tradition for years to come, but we will celebrate

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Speaker 2: him here on this show. He is the old pe

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Speaker 2: on social media, he is Petros Papadakis, the coast of

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Speaker 2: the Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on

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Speaker 2: the Blowtorch Am five to seven e LA Sports Fox

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Speaker 2: College Football Analyst and our good buddy here Pee, what's happening?

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Speaker 5: Good morning? Oh, good morning? Hello? All right? Hello hey everybody, loo, Hey,

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Speaker 5: what's up?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 3: I wanted to do well?

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Speaker 2: I wanted to start off, because I know we're going

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Speaker 2: to get into the you know, the rivalry, which.

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Speaker 5: I haven't even talked about it, and you know since

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Speaker 5: the last week.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well been so long. I did want to ask

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Speaker 2: you about your thoughts on the growth and development of

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Speaker 2: Luka Doncic, who apparently has lost a ton of weight. Uh,

624
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Speaker 2: some people have taken notice to him in the off season.

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Speaker 2: And does this make you more optimistic about what the

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Speaker 2: Lakers next year could look like if Luca can figure

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Speaker 2: out how to be in better shape for the upcoming season.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, such growth.

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Speaker 8: The Laker News yesterday was Lebron making his Taco Tuesday

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Speaker 8: sound when his son graduated high school.

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Speaker 3: What was that sound like that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Yea yeah, yeah yah yeah yeah yeah yeah yea yea,

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Speaker 8: yea yeah, yea yeah, yeah yeah yah yeah yeah yeah,

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Speaker 8: yea yeah, yeah, yea yeah yeah yah yeah yah yeah

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Speaker 8: yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's a little higher, it's a little high.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: But it's five in the morning, and I'm you know,

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Speaker 8: I just got up and I ruined. My voice was

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Speaker 8: smoking years ago.

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Speaker 5: I used to have a higher.

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Speaker 8: I used to be able to sing the just my

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Speaker 8: Imagination part Real High from the Temptations but I can't.

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Speaker 5: Even because of my voice.

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Speaker 8: But yes, it was the Sierra Canyon, Sierra Canyon in

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Speaker 8: Chatsworth graduation. Sierra Canyon where Lebron sends all his kids

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Speaker 8: and they have a great basketball and football program among

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Speaker 8: other things. They're K through twelve, so so kindergarten through

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Speaker 8: senior in high school one thousand, one hundred and like

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Speaker 8: fifty kids, so not a lot.

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Speaker 5: And Lebron was.

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Speaker 8: There and they announced his son, the four star recruit

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Speaker 8: going to Arizona, who average of half a point a

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Speaker 8: game in high school.

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Speaker 5: And that's so he does other things, guys, he should

657
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Speaker 5: the screens.

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Speaker 8: He rebounds. But they waited like they announced the kid,

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Speaker 8: and everybody's like, you know, you heard a few horns

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Speaker 8: and like applause, and then he waited for a lull

661
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Speaker 8: so everybody would know it was Taco Tuesday, and he

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Speaker 8: did that and then everybody, all the Sierra Canyon parents

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Speaker 8: were like and then only then did they announce the

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Speaker 8: next kid, which was Joan. Yeah they did.

665
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 5: Then they were the next kid's name was jonas Epstein.

666
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: All right, oh wow, he not the greatest last name.

667
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: But you know what, appreciate the.

668
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 6: Love man, you know, there's a whole campaign about not

669
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 6: not exercising that type of hate.

670
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: Bro Okay, well, I'm be careful, man. We literally will

671
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: go darker right now with the.

672
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: Name of the name Epstein. Now associated with the name

673
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: Epstein is not.

674
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: Okay, that's that's that's fair. Hey, I do want to ask,

675
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 3: Oh boy, I do want to ask.

676
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 4: Though, Lebron, it sounds like he's gonna pick up or

677
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 4: sign his option with the Lakers for twenty six.

678
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: You had to be excited about that when you saw

679
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: that news, right, Yeah.

680
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 8: Just another couple of years getting nailed by the king.

681
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 8: You know, you ever see that movie Sleeping with the

682
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 8: Enemy with Julia Roberts.

683
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a long time.

684
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 5: Oh it's pretty good.

685
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 8: Sleeping with the Enemy where her husband's like the worst

686
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 8: guy ever and she fakes her own death to get

687
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 8: away from him.

688
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 5: But he finds her.

689
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 8: Because instead of throwing the wedding ring away, she threw

690
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 8: it down the sink, and he went into the sink

691
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 8: and found the ring.

692
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 5: He knew she was still alive and she didn't drown.

693
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 8: He finds her and before she uh, before she kills him,

694
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 8: she has him at gunpoint.

695
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 5: She calls the cops and says, I just shot an intruder.

696
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 5: He's like what and then blah blah blah blah.

697
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 8: That's what it feels like, getting nailed by the king

698
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 8: for another couple of years. But at least we'll have

699
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 8: something to talk about. And what about the Japanese guys? Yeah,

700
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 8: you guys there on the Dodgers pretty good.

701
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 6: How do you feel about the Dodgers right now? Man,

702
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 6: They're they're looking pretty good.

703
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 5: Huh. I guess they have something felt them. Well.

704
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 8: They they have some injury issues as far as their

705
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 8: their pitching goes.

706
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 5: They have guy that don't go very long in the games.

707
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 8: They're starting pitching, but that's uh, but that's kind of

708
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 8: rectified itself. They've had a couple of long stamping stammina performances.

709
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 8: You know that good Royal honey type performance from from

710
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 8: dust Oh yeah, Dustin Man, I think went five innings

711
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 8: last night, which is the equivalent of pitching like eighteen

712
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 8: innings now and uh and the guy before that, Yamamoto,

713
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 8: had a great out at the other day. Yamamoto might

714
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 8: win the cy young He's he's really pitching great. He's

715
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 8: got a devastating splitter that people.

716
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 5: Don't know what to do with. And there's a new

717
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 5: Yamamoto song. I'm not asking you to find it right now,

718
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 5: though you probably could. There's a new Yamamoto song that

719
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 5: has gone viral.

720
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 8: It's like Yo she nobo yama moto ma maer and

721
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 8: it just goes on all right, it's a it's a

722
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 8: it's it's from Reddit, and that is now going viral

723
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 8: because you know, I mean, it's kind of hard. You know,

724
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 8: you can be the greatest, uh, you could be John Taylor,

725
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 8: one of the greatest wide receivers around, but when Jerry

726
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 8: Rice is on the other side of the field for

727
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 8: the forty nine ers, it's kind of hard to get

728
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 8: some attention. And it's a little bit like that for

729
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 8: Yamamoto with Otani, I mean Otawni I think just hit

730
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 8: his twentieth home run last night.

731
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 5: He's on Pace there it is man yo sin no

732
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 5: man Denimo she Yeah, man yo sin no right, denimino ben.

733
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 3: You see, Oh my god, is that like his walk

734
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: up music?

735
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 5: I wish it was.

736
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 3: That's kind of hard if it is.

737
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 5: No, his walk up last that's his walk up is

738
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 5: more like a techno vibe.

739
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 6: But man, that's almost like Godzilla, like like dang, that's

740
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 6: kind of dope if Yeah, Look.

741
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 5: Japanese culture is very exciting.

742
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 8: You know, They've got a lot going on and uh

743
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 8: and they have a they have a great Korean guy

744
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 8: too that they called up Hey Song Kim who's an

745
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 8: exciting Korean player who runs really well and inject some

746
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 8: excitement and it's really likable guy.

747
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 5: He's not Japanese, but he's Korean.

748
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 3: M hm.

749
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: So uh, Petros, now that we uh, let's get into

750
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: it here.

751
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 5: Where does the like, I don't know what, what's there

752
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 5: really to say?

753
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: Well, I wanted to ask you this because you know

754
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: this time I don't want to.

755
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 5: Go back and forth with Colin Cowherd.

756
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: I feel listen and that's not I'm more looking at

757
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: it from big picture because you are one to voice

758
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: your frustration when it comes to USC and where the

759
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: program is at as opposed to the program you grew

760
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: up with, the program that you were part of, that

761
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: you played with, that your family was a part of.

762
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 5: They were terrible when I played there.

763
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was still an element of pride and

764
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: tradition attached to the program. So when you see the

765
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: stuff that's gone on with then unwilling to potentially want

766
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: to continue the rivalry with Notre Dame for various reasons.

767
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: Where does this rank among most frustrated you've been with

768
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: your alma mater in comparison to some of the other

769
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: instances and other issues that have popped up over the

770
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: previous years.

771
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I'm a radio TV guy, but let's

772
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 8: just say, I know where a lot of bodies are buried.

773
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 8: So there's some other things that we never talk about.

774
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 8: But at the same time, I mean, you know, lack

775
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 8: of institutional control and stuff like that. But no, I mean,

776
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 8: there's there's arrogant Lane Kiffin. There's drunken, out of control

777
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 8: Steve Sarkisian. There's clueless and corrupt Pat Hayden and Lynn Swan.

778
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 8: There's the Varsity Blues.

779
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 3: I remember Pat Hayden. He was called the Notre Dame

780
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 3: Games back in the decade.

781
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 8: He used to be a Notre Dame announcer, former USC

782
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 8: football hero, and then he exposed himself and had to

783
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 8: go underground after being the US athletic director who really

784
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 8: basically helped Foster in the Varsity Blue scandal.

785
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot of meat on the bone.

786
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 5: Is what I'm trying to say.

787
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 8: I mean Mike bone Let alone, a guy that had

788
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 8: to remove And of course there's off sports stuff at USC,

789
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 8: with the terrible cover up with the doctor that was

790
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 8: molesting people for years and years, and just a lot

791
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 8: of bad stuff that's happened at USC because USC is

792
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 8: a very very very wealthy, very connected, private university and

793
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 8: it seemed like in the twenty first century they really

794
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 8: lost their way. This on the other hand, I mean

795
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 8: as an institution we're talking about, and it's a gigantic institution.

796
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 8: USC is not like Sierra Canyon that has one thousand,

797
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 8: one hundred kids. It's it's a massive university. It's like

798
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 8: thirty five thousand people graduate and undergrad.

799
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 5: Maybe more so. It's uh, it's a big place and

800
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 5: there's a lot going on.

801
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 8: So I don't want to catastrophize this controversy or whatever.

802
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 5: But nothing I think has been more definitive about who's

803
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 5: in charge of SC, what's wrong with SC.

804
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 8: A sign of the times at SC that SC is

805
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 8: no longer relevant, has a football program year in and

806
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 8: year out, that USC has lost there, that USC is impotent,

807
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 8: it's a program now now that the now that the

808
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 8: ocean has turned to yoga and I've.

809
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 5: Lost my spoon. One of my favorite sayings.

810
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 8: They they they have totally, they have totally lost their

811
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 8: identity if they're considering this, or how they're considering it,

812
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 8: and the way they're considering it, and who they're allowing

813
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 8: to make their decisions. So overall, I think for me,

814
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 8: it's a really frustrating thing. I can't say it's the

815
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 8: most frustrated I've ever been, because there's really been terrible

816
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 8: things that have happened that have been illegal, you know,

817
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 8: stuff that's not defensible. This, on the other hand, is

818
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 8: a head coach who quite literally would be fired. He

819
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 8: would have been fired if his buyout, or would be

820
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 8: fired and still probably will be fired if his buyout

821
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 8: was not so gigantic. And the fact that they are

822
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 8: letting that guy try to manipulate or say something or

823
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 8: dictate one hundred plus year old rivalry that, as I've

824
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 8: said on the show many times, transcends World Wars, transcends

825
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 8: the the transfer portal, transport transcends the nil, transcends conference realignment,

826
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 8: any of that stuff. We still have usc Notre Dame.

827
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 8: And the fact that Lincoln Riley, who probably should not

828
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 8: even be there. He shouldn't He shouldn't be the coach

829
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 8: there right now, based on his performance, what the place is.

830
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 8: It's just the buyout is so big that guy gets

831
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 8: to pull the plug on this rivalry. That guy gets

832
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 8: to say that USC players don't get to take the

833
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 8: field at Notre Dame or play Notre Dame at home

834
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 8: in November. It's not it's not right. It's it's it's

835
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 8: it's so far from being right that I can't believe

836
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 8: anybody would argue for it. And all these people talking

837
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 8: about modern football and things change and this is what

838
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 8: we need and all that, and my I mean, USC's

839
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 8: not competing. It's not like USC is going to play

840
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 8: in the playoffs if they just didn't have that pesky

841
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 8: Notre Dame game on their schedule. I mean, they can't

842
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 8: beat Minnesota, they can't beat Maryland. And I got to

843
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 8: be honest with you, if Notre Dame's on your schedule,

844
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 8: win or lose, it's going to help you a lot

845
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 8: more when you're in the Big Ten with the new

846
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 8: expanded playoff rules than it does scheduling Georgia State or

847
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 8: Missouri State. Who's on the schedule here in twenty twenty five,

848
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 8: all of that, all of that, it's just so sad

849
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 8: and disappointing that these very wealthy country club set type

850
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 8: people who have never looked through a face mask at USC,

851
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 8: never done anything there, never had any real connection with

852
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 8: the place, want to take the opportunity to play at

853
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 8: the cradle of college football in one of the most

854
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 8: in the most iconic program in the history of the sport,

855
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 8: in their stadium every other year. You're going to take

856
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 8: that away from a whole generation or even consider taking

857
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 8: that away from a whole generation of USC football players

858
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 8: because your coach is scared to compete. It's the saddest

859
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 8: and most it's it's really the most egregious thing I've

860
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 8: ever heard anybody ever consider.

861
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 5: When it comes. I'd rather have a drunk coach, honestly.

862
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 8: I mean, it's it's it's it's truly, it's truly an

863
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 8: insult to anybody who ever played the sport at USC

864
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 8: that this would be considered. And the fact that USC

865
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 8: says anything about it.

866
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 5: I know, Brady, I'm sorry. I'll be done in a second.

867
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 3: You're good, You're good.

868
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 8: The fact that USC says anything about it other than yes,

869
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 8: we'd love to play the rivalry for the next thousand years.

870
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 8: The fact that anybody other than Jen Cohen, the USC

871
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 8: Athletic director, has made any kind of statement about this,

872
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 8: the head coach who should be fired, or some weird

873
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 8: assistant athletic director open freaking mouth about it. The only

874
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 8: person I want to hear from is the USC Athletic

875
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 8: director or the president of the school. And that person

876
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 8: needs to say we are going to play this for

877
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 8: the rest of our lives and for everybody else's lives forward,

878
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 8: and that is that.

879
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 5: We don't want to hear anything else about. Why is

880
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 5: it even being.

881
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 8: Discussed because Lincoln Riley, who's not good enough to be

882
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 8: the head coach there anymore anyway, If you really think

883
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 8: they're they're they're they're good and have a chance to compete.

884
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 8: Because Lincoln Riley is too soft to to commit to

885
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 8: a rivalry that everybody else that's ever coached there has

886
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 8: committed to. It's an absolute travesty and it makes me

887
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 8: sick to my stomach to even discuss it.

888
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 5: Thank you.

889
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 4: It is interesting when you bring up the history and

890
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 4: when you initially saw some of your statements, petros I

891
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 4: was thinking about just looking back on how this rivalry

892
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 4: has sustained through World Wars when you take into account

893
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 4: what it took for the teams to get across the

894
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 4: country train they want to train, like, like, I hear

895
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 4: this argument by a lot of USC people, in particular

896
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 4: on social media, who try to defend the fact that

897
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 4: well Notre Dame's not Well, they've.

898
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: Never been at a conference, so this existed.

899
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 8: Well, and again that's why you have That's like, why

900
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 8: should they be I mean, honestly, it's like saying, well,

901
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 8: you have this seven hundred room mansion, why don't you

902
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 8: move into this crappy apartment building and Marina del Rey

903
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 8: with the rest of us, I mean.

904
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 5: Why why they don't they have their own deal with it? Right?

905
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 4: Well, and then, and by the way, it's always been

906
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 4: that way. So it's kind of odd that now you

907
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 4: try to use that as justification because of the same.

908
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 8: Thing they use is justification as an It makes me

909
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 8: it's laughable.

910
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 3: I'm just about the train ride.

911
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 4: The train ride back in the day, right, like they're

912
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 4: going for days across the country back and forth to

913
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 4: play one another, and nowadays they're like, well, we fly

914
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: six thousand more miles a year. It's like, all right,

915
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 4: let's just look back at history here and look at

916
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 4: how this rivalry was played out.

917
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 3: Teams strut and again I'm not trying to say that.

918
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 4: You know, we've come a long way since then, but

919
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 4: it's sustained through that, right. It lasted through snowstorms, through

920
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 4: whatever else they had to endure to get to one

921
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 4: another to play.

922
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 3: So it has a bit odd.

923
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 4: I do want you to play Devil's advocate though, because

924
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 4: one of the things is I think it's on us

925
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 4: to say, Okay, we'll see, did make a decision that

926
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: was for their best interest right to get paid handsomely

927
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 4: through the TV METEA write steal and conference still have.

928
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 8: The feeling about it that they had to do that,

929
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 8: I mean, and it's because the pack ten for sure,

930
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 8: twelve was so for sure.

931
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 4: So sure, So let's just look at it from Devil's advocate,

932
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 4: because there has been been an agreement and and look,

933
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 4: I'll say this, I spoke to Gen Cohen last week.

934
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: So what I do know is that what's being floated

935
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 4: or out about this twenty year agreement whatever else, there's

936
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 4: not a lot of truth of that. There's been and

937
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 4: you know, an idea to extend for another year. And

938
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 4: there's the thought that Southern cow would like to play

939
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 4: at week zero week one at the beginning of the season.

940
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 5: That's a travesty.

941
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 4: But and look, I'm not going to disagree with you,

942
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 4: but everyone feels like I'm biased because I'm an undername guy.

943
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is Notre Dame hasn't signed an

944
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 4: extension or signed the agreement either, And then you know,

945
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 4: so you could you could make that case, I guess,

946
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 4: make your case if.

947
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 3: You can for Southern col And why this robbery should need.

948
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 4: To change based on the landscape of college football where

949
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 4: a lot of things have changed.

950
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 5: I don't understand. I just don't understand why. Why.

951
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 8: The only reason it wants anybody wants it to change

952
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 8: or has said anything about it, is because Lincoln Riley

953
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 8: is too soft to play it. And there's a reason

954
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 8: they play in November. There's a reason they play in October.

955
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 8: What was last year, twenty twenty four and they played

956
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 8: at sc right, Yeah, so they played at Notre Dame.

957
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

958
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 8: So in the even years, they play at Notre Dame

959
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 8: in October. Because Howard Jones's wife used to want to

960
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,479
Speaker 8: watch the leaves change the USC head coach and Newton

961
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 8: Rockney's wife had family in Los Angeles, so every other

962
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 8: year they would spend Thanksgiving week that week late November

963
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 8: at USC or in Los Angeles with the palm trees

964
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 8: in Hollywood and all that. It is not snowing in

965
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 8: October in South Bend. It is not a snow game.

966
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 8: They don't have to walk uphill in the snow both ways. Yes,

967
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 8: sometimes it rains and it gets a little muddy, but

968
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 8: it's not mundy anymore because Brian Kelly changed a feeling.

969
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 5: That was a travesty as well.

970
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 8: I don't look, I don't understand, other than the fact

971
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 8: that Lincoln Riley doesn't want to play this, why anybody

972
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 8: would ever even consider even moving it. If playing the

973
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 8: first game of the year is different than playing later

974
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 8: in the year USC Notre Dame does nothing but help

975
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 8: everybody and us. He's not competing for the playoff anyway,

976
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 8: and if they were playing Notre Dame would help them.

977
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 8: This is a coach that understands very little about the university.

978
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 5: That he's at.

979
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 8: It's a coach that understands very little about how to

980
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 8: make that university successful year in and year out. He's

981
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 8: very stubborn. He doesn't want to embrace their traditions. And

982
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 8: I'll say it again, if he wasn't so overpaid, he'd

983
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 8: be fired at this point without a doubt. So why

984
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 8: should anybody, I mean, why should anybody allow that guy

985
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 8: to say anything about anything or any of his ilk,

986
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 8: or anybody that listens to what he says at some

987
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 8: stupid nil meeting and goes on the internet and regurgitates

988
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 8: it to fight with a guy like Brady Quinn. There

989
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 8: is no argument to end rivalry. There is no argument,

990
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 8: in my opinion, to change the date of the rivalry.

991
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 8: The only thing anybody should do is say, yes, we

992
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 8: love this rivalry and it will continue forever. And despite

993
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 8: the changes in college football, the more things change, the

994
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 8: more some remain the same. This is who we are,

995
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 8: This is our identity as a university. We're such a

996
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 8: big deal in college football that we play an intersectional

997
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 8: rivalry every single year against the team that is the

998
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 8: cradle of the sport, Notre Dame. If you're too if

999
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 8: you're if somehow you're too important or advanced or elite

1000
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 8: or West Coast to continue that rivalry, then let's just

1001
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 8: scrap the football program and play flag and.

1002
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 5: Try to get into the Olympics.

1003
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 6: Petrows, I know we're up against it, But who would

1004
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 6: embrace that idea and like those beliefs of what you

1005
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 6: just said? Just or me? If there were a coach

1006
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 6: that in your mind that would fit that mold, who

1007
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 6: would that be?

1008
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 8: Anybody else? Anybody you know, Matt Campbell, Barry Odom, any

1009
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 8: other coach in the world of college football. Yeah, and

1010
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 8: maybe you get have five drinks in them and say, God,

1011
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 8: it's tough to play Notre Dame every year? Okay, great, whatever,

1012
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 8: You're still the coach at USC. Like you get paid

1013
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 8: ninety million dollars on your stupid ass contract that you

1014
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 8: should have never gotten because.

1015
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 5: You play against Notre Dame.

1016
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 8: You know, that's the thing about USC, And I don't

1017
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 8: care that they're in the Big Ten now and it's

1018
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 8: some they act like it's some giant gauntlet of death.

1019
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 5: You shouldn't have done it.

1020
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 8: Then, you know, if that, if that prevents you from

1021
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 8: playing Notre Dame, then you're too soft to be in

1022
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 8: the Big Ten.

1023
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry that's true. That's you know, I mean,

1024
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 3: I think you'd agree.

1025
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll during that era, which I look at as

1026
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 4: that was the greatest, you know, group of teams in

1027
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 4: USC's history. But he would have never turned this down.

1028
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 4: He would have never.

1029
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 5: No, no, and and and you know, I don't I

1030
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 5: could talk about I'll put it this way.

1031
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 3: I would put that SC team up against any in

1032
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 3: history of college football.

1033
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 5: Okay, Uh you know I don't. There's the way. I

1034
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 5: mean O. J.

1035
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 8: Simpson and people like that, and John McKay in the

1036
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 8: seventies a different game, I understand to tell what I'm saying,

1037
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 8: but I mean, yeah, there are great football teams. I

1038
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 8: covered them as closely as anybody in the world. I

1039
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 8: used to travel with them. But uh, you look, I

1040
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 8: mean just as scheduling. We can argue about who was

1041
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 8: good and who was bad and all that, but scheduling wise,

1042
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 8: I mean they played Arkansas, they played Virginia, they played

1043
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 8: Kansas at Kansas State, they played at Auburn. I mean

1044
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 8: when I played at USC, we played at Florida State.

1045
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 8: We played everybody we possibly could. I don't understand the

1046
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 8: I mean, they were never afraid of a challenge. It

1047
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 8: was it was a way to boost the programs visibility

1048
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 8: in the BCS era, or any era. But I mean,

1049
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 8: I take your point, Brady. I mean, those were absolutely

1050
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 8: dominant football teams in a dominant era of USC, and

1051
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 8: they played anybody they possibly could. You could say, well, yeah,

1052
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 8: but they were in the Pac Ten at the time.

1053
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 8: Well okay, they would go anywhere and play anybody. They

1054
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 8: went to Nebraska, Nebraska came here. They I mean, they

1055
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 8: played everybody you could possibly think of.

1056
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: That.

1057
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 8: I mean when they played Auburn and three Auburn was

1058
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 8: the number one team in the country and they played

1059
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 8: at Jordan Hare. So yes, when USC is great generationally

1060
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 8: throughout the years, and Pete Carroll of course the most

1061
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 8: recent in everybody's memory, they have never, ever, ever, ever

1062
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 8: shied away from anybody on a schedule. And this is

1063
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 8: just it's just not This doesn't feel like USC football

1064
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 8: at all. And if they if they try to do this, seriously,

1065
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 8: just shake start and then just start wearing alternate uniforms,

1066
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 8: start wearing white shoes. Let's schedule half the games. It's

1067
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 8: so far, you know, seriously, let's just scrap the whole thing.

1068
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, is a stub Up Center still open?

1069
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go play at the Dignity Health sports. Yeah. Yeah,

1070
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 5: let's wear our jockstraps on the outside of our pants.

1071
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 2: Get them on X at the old pe Hughes. Petros

1072
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: Papadegas the co host of the Petros and Money Show,

1073
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: which you can hear on the Blowtorch AM five to

1074
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: seventy LA Sports Fox college football analyst and a Wednesday

1075
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: tradition here on the show, Petros, we appreciate it. We'll

1076
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: do it again next week.

1077
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 5: I hate everybody there.

1078
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 3: He is there, he is other lizard. We said hello, Petros.

1079
00:55:53,920 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 8: Lizards doing good good better some hornworms last night, Real

1080
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 8: Juicy