1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:00,960 Speaker 1: Fresh show. 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 2: This is what's trending, all right, guys, a couple of 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: political stories and then we'll move on. But Vice President 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris secured enough delegates on Monday night to become 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: the Democratic nominee for president at the party's convention in 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: Chicago next month. She became the front runner on Sunday 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: after President Joe Biden dropped his reelection bid and urged 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: his supporters to unite around his VP instead. She's also 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: been endorsed by key Democratic figures such as former Secretary 10 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: of State Hillary Clinton and former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: You got nasty yesterday after Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheetahbili 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: say you say your name, testified before the House Oversight 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: Committee for more than four hours and they want her 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: to resign after the whole Trump thing, oh, the assassination attempt, 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: and they were terrible. I mean, the thing about these, 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: you know, Senate and Congress hearings and whatever else, is 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 2: I feel like it's hard to know how how much 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: passion there really is for the topic at hand, because 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: all these people are trying to do is get their 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: their moment. They're trying to say the thing in the 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: five minutes they get that's going to land them on 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: the nightly news or land them on TikTok or land 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 2: them viral. 24 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: So it's like, are you really this mad? 25 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: Or are you just did you just come up with 26 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: something that you thought would get you, you know, more 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: coverage for yourself. I mean, and people should be mad 28 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: about this. This is not right. What happened is weird. 29 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: There's a lot of questions. I don't really care what 30 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: here we go with the text? Oh honestly, like I 31 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: really don't care what side of the aisle you're on. 32 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: That shouldn't have happened like that. So what happened? Why 33 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: did it happen? Why are you still in the job? 34 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: She doesn't. They want her to resign. She won't resign. 35 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, but then they just remember when 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: we were doing this whole thing with Ticketmaster in Congress 37 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: or Senator whatever in these hearings, and like you, clearly 38 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: these guys were having their aids right Taylor swift lyrics 39 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: into their little speeches, and it was like, all right, guys, 40 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: we got it, Like you want to wind up on TikTok, 41 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: we understand. I'm not sure if this helps anybody or anything. 42 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: But they basically just told this woman how much she 43 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: sucked for four and a half hours, and like as 44 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: soon as you think you're done, then it's the next 45 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: person's turn. And each person is like their own independent, 46 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: you know, presenter. So it's like, right, exactly, like we 47 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: already covered this, I suck at my job. Okay, I 48 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: suck at my job. We got it. I don't know 49 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: right then for another four and a half hours, I 50 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: get to hear like, you know, honestly, I would have 51 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: resigned like fifteen minutes into that thing. 52 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: I would have been like, so way, Manue. Let me 53 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: ask you a question. 54 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: If I tell you, if I just walk out, if 55 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: I quit right now and leave, does this end? Does 56 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: this mean we don't have to do this anymore? Like 57 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: if I just go get a job at Arby's, Yes, 58 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: do I no longer have to get roasted by you 59 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: babel Is? If the answer is yes, then my answer 60 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: is yes and I'm gone. What else do I hear 61 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: for you guys? 62 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: Today? 63 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: Lebron James will be the male flag bearer for Team 64 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: USA at the Olympics, which will have its opening ceremony 65 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: Friday in Paris. A female flag bearer is expected to 66 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: be named later this week. Now, this is interesting to note. 67 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: Lebron is the first men's basketball player to be named 68 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: Team USA is flag bearer. So not Kobe, not Michael, 69 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: but Lebron. And this isn't like just for the team 70 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: for the basketball team, this is flag bear for the 71 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: entire United States Olympic team. He was voted into this role. 72 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: So you know, I guess he's more likable than I thought. 73 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: But then again, for some people like you, much younger 74 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: generation for the most part, going to the Olympics, right, 75 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: like a lot of athletes are much younger. He is 76 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: the Michael Jordan of that era, so of course they 77 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: would name him like one of the oldest guys there, right, right, 78 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: But they're also talking about this yesterday. I saw the 79 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: whole thing about how Michael and Kobe didn't care if 80 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: anyone liked them. They didn't care if they were the 81 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: flag bear. They didn't care. It was like they just 82 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: went to play and cared to pete and win. They 83 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: didn't care about any of this other stuff. And so 84 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: that's why it's maybe they weren't all that friendly to everybody, 85 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: or they weren't you know, political, they weren't whatever, and 86 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: Lebron seems to be a likable guy to a lot 87 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: of people. 88 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: So at the same time, there's there was other Olympias, 89 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: Like there's Olympians that are more deserving at the time, 90 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: you know, saying like there's guys that this is this 91 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: is this is it for them? 92 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like Lebron has the in right, right, yeah, right, 93 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: that's you know. Then there's like guys that just run 94 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: track every four years. 95 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: Just yeah, there's this there's not a lot of fame 96 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: and not a lot of money and you know, right, yeah, 97 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: I get that. 98 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. 99 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: And let's answer the age old question does money buy happiness? 100 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: Do you guys think money buys happiness? 101 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: Truly? Absolutely? 102 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: Do you think if you have more money that you're 103 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: more likely to be happy? 104 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: No, I'll let you know when I get there. 105 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't answer that question honestly, But I mean 106 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: I would like to believe you, yes, Yes, I would 107 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: like to believes Yes. It's got to make life easier. 108 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: It's got to make life easier. 109 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: It gives you options, I think, right, right. 110 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean like your relationships are going to be good, 111 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: that your parents will love you more or less, or 112 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: that your kids will love you or what. It doesn't 113 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: mean any of that, but I mean, at least you don't. 114 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: Your kids could hate you and you could be poor, right, 115 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you could hate your dad and also hate 116 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 2: your job and not necessarily have enough money to like 117 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 2: buy bread, and then that's a sad story. 118 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: That's a bad thing. 119 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 2: But at least if you hate your dad but you 120 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 2: can buy bread, you're eating a sandwich while hating your dad. 121 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 4: I mean, it makes you comfortable. I don't think it 122 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: makes you happy. I mean, there's so many other factors 123 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 4: to happiness. 124 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: For sure. 125 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, stress may be eliminated, but I mean I've heard 126 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 4: so many people get famous and say I still look 127 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 4: in the mirror. 128 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: I still have the same issues. It didn't fix anything, 129 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: you know. 130 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I use what little money I do get paid 131 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: around here to get therapy, and then the therapy really 132 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: helps me survive. So that's good. Well that ends Yeah, 133 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: and whiskey Yeah those two things, yeah, right? And women, Yeah, 134 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: except now, except not that I gave that up for lent. 135 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: So does money buy happiness? The answer is actually yes. 136 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: That used to be no, And there used to be 137 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: like a plateau or like a h they call it 138 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 2: a plateau. 139 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: Actually I get to it. 140 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: But there used to be a number two which if 141 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: you made more than this number, then you weren't exponentially happy, 142 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: happier relative to the amount of wealth above this number. 143 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: So like, you see what I'm saying, So I'll tell 144 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: you what it is in a minute. But it used 145 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: to be like if you made I'll make it up 146 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars a year, that if you made one 147 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: hundred thousand, you weren't doubly happy. But up until that 148 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars point, you were happier each increment until 149 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: you got there. But then not like if you went 150 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 2: from fifty to two hundred, then you weren't like four 151 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: times happier I would be, but that's just me. According 152 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: to new research at UPenn the Wharton School, there is 153 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: no happiness plateau or point at which more money is 154 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: no longer associated with greater happiness. So they asked thirty 155 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: three thousand people, which is I mean, this is a 156 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: good survey, unlike most surveys we talk about here, where 157 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: they asked four people and got their answers between the 158 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: ages of eighteen and sixty five, with annual incomes of 159 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: at least ten thousand dollars. They found that the so 160 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 2: called happiness gap between affluent and middle income participants those 161 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: were the average annual income of between seventy and eighty 162 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: thousand dollars, was larger than that between middle and low 163 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: income subjects. Not only that, but the scientists busted long 164 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: held assumption that once people attain enough money to be comfortable, 165 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: their happiness flat lines. Instead, millionaires and billionaires were found 166 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: to be substantially and statistically significantly happier than people earning 167 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: over five hundred thousand dollars a year. So also the 168 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: seventy five thousand dollars happiness plateau is also not true anymore. 169 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: So that was the number I was referring to. 170 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: That you get to seventy five grand, and then your 171 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: happiness doesn't go up relative to the amount of money 172 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: that beyond seventy five thousand dollars. 173 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I think that would make 174 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: me happy. 175 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: I think one hundred and fifty would make me happier 176 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: than seventy five, and I think three hundred would make 177 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: me a lot happier than that, and I think a 178 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: million would make me really you know what I mean? 179 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, I guess not the health. What I mean, 180 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: I'm really like thinking about this because Kaitlin's right. I mean, 181 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: you're like, if you have I don't know, a bit depression, 182 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: or if your health isn't good, which are million factors 183 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: that have nothing to do with money, of course, a 184 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: million factors that have nothing that you can't buy your 185 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: way out of. 186 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: Of course, that being. 187 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: Said, if I got some bad stuff going on, but 188 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: I got a couple of fly honeys in my roles. 189 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: With me. 190 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: Just for the night, you'll like the fly honeys in 191 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 4: the morning, you. 192 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: Know, like I'm fly. 193 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 4: But that's like and meaningless, and you're like, I hate myself. 194 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: You know later I'll feel that way. But at least 195 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: I have at least, Hey, it's better than not ever 196 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: having those moments of glory, right, I mean, yeah, there's 197 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 2: a price to be paid for the moments of glory, 198 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 2: but at least I've got them. 199 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 4: You have those, You're going on a trip this weekend 200 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 4: best friends. 201 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: That's a moment, of course. 202 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: But if I may double the money, there's simply a 203 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: lot we wouldn't be going we would be going somewhere else. 204 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: Instead we're going to Carbondale, Illinois. But it's gonna be wonderful. 205 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: It is. 206 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: They got cao, they got a casino, they got a steakhouse, 207 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: they got a lake, they got boats, they got this 208 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: is guys they got I don't know, but maybe they 209 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: got fly honey. We'll get to this. But I did 210 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: I chose. I mean this, I was thoughtful about this vacation. 211 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: I'm taking you guys on on the nearly private airline. 212 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, come on, guys. Do we get 213 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: a stipend for the casino? The spot? It's how much 214 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: money is in your bank account? 215 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 3: That's right, right, So I'll just be like, just charge 216 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: it to uh Fred's room and guess what it's. 217 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 2: The ro is not under my legal manor anymore. I 218 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: changed the legal man. It's under Harry Houdini. It's under 219 00:09:54,640 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: knees nuts, sir. How do you spell that? How easy? Hey, 220 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: frend show is on. It's Stay or Go. 221 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: Darcy is here? Good morning, Darcy? How you doing? 222 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 5: Good morning? 223 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: I'm doing okay, Darcy. Welcome to the program. Stair Go. 224 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: So a little relationship advice, little little group therapy happening 225 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 2: right now? What's going on with this guy? This is 226 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: your husband of fifteen years. You're calling us about something real, Like, 227 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: this isn't for real. We're not messing around with some 228 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: six month relationship. This is fifteen years. You've been married 229 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: to this man. 230 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 5: Well, not only have we've been married for fifteen years, 231 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 5: but we were together seven years before. 232 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: We got married. 233 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 5: And they always told me, marry your best friend, marry 234 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 5: your best friend, so I did. 235 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: Twenty two years you've been together, right, I does some 236 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: quick mathew, just two years at the top of the dome. Yeah, no, 237 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: I am, I am. I'm good with you. Yeah. 238 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 5: The problem is not that I don't love him. 239 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 6: I do. 240 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 5: The problem is is that I don't want to be 241 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 5: intimate with him, Like I don't want to have sex 242 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 5: with him, and I have it for a really long time, 243 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 5: and I try to push those feelings down because, like 244 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 5: you just said, it's been twenty two years that we 245 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 5: have been together. And people say you go through phases 246 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 5: and the spark comes and it goes, but it went 247 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 5: a long time ago and it has not come back, 248 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 5: And like we'll get intimate sometimes, but it's more of 249 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 5: like obligation than it is anything else, and I feel 250 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 5: terrible about it. But every time I try to bring 251 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 5: it up with other people, they always say, oh, the 252 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 5: dating world is so hard and the grass isn't always 253 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 5: greener and you have your best friend, Like what more 254 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 5: could you want? Well, I want to be with someone 255 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 5: who I want like that. 256 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: Why would you say things have subsided romantically intimately? Like 257 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: can you can you pinpoint why you're not interested? Like, 258 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: I mean, are you guys still getting along? Are you 259 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: still communicating well? Has there been any kind of infidelity? 260 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: I mean, is there some sort of dysfunction? I mean, 261 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get to the bike or is 262 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: it simply you've just grown out of wanting to be 263 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: intimate with him and you just feel like you're married 264 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 2: to your friend. 265 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm married to my friend, and I 266 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 5: don't know that I ever grew out of it. I think, 267 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 5: geek down. I've always known it's always been like that, 268 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 5: But I listen to everybody else who said, this is 269 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 5: your best friend, and he is, like, there's nobody else 270 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 5: I want to spend time with other than him, But 271 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 5: when it gets down to that bedroom, it's it's like 272 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 5: I'm laying there with my brother and I'm like, I 273 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 5: don't want to new day. 274 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: There's nobody else that does he wants to spend time 275 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: with except for maybe somebody to have sex. 276 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: With her other than that, but. 277 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 2: Other than that, this guy, This guy's everything just so 278 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: you can, okay, could you? And I'm just trying to, 279 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 2: like it, be proactive here. I mean, is there anything, 280 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 2: like what if he tried to be romantic? Like, is 281 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: there anything that he can do? I mean, is it 282 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: really just dead like you're just not interested? Or is 283 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: there Is it a matter of effort? Is it a 284 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: matter of seduction? Is it a matter of you know, 285 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: he's not romantic with you anymore, he doesn't take you on, 286 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, is there anything going 287 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: on that he could adjust to maybe make this more 288 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: attractive to you? 289 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: Again? 290 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 5: Maybe, but I think even if he tried, it would 291 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 5: just give me the ick. I think we're at that 292 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 5: point to even if he tried to seduce me, I 293 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 5: don't know if he is the person I want seducing me. 294 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 5: And I know that that sounds so terrible. I know 295 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 5: it sounds so awful, but it's just how I feel. 296 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: Have you discussed this with him. I mean, if you 297 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: guys communicated about this, does he feel the same way. 298 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 5: He does not feel the same way. He feels the 299 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 5: same way everybody else does. That we're just going through 300 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 5: a rough patch and you know, we just need to 301 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 5: talk more. And I feel like all we do is 302 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 5: talk about it, which I'd rather do than the alternative. 303 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 5: I'll talk to you forever. I just feel like we're 304 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 5: talking in a circle. And I don't know if it 305 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 5: will ever come back to me feeling that way towards him, 306 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 5: like I love him, and I always heard people say 307 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 5: this is always thought it was such a lie. I 308 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 5: just don't know that I'm in love with him. But 309 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 5: if there is something that he could do, I would 310 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 5: try it because nothing would break my heart more than 311 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 5: to break his heart. 312 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, because if he's still really into it and wants 313 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: to do it and you don't, then this isn't a 314 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: situation where I think you could go and present some 315 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: sort of counter solution, Like you know, you can't go 316 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 2: to a guy who still wants to be with you 317 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: and you don't and be like, hey, how about if 318 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: we open up this marriage or something. Because I've heard 319 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: of situations that people have been married for a very 320 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: long time, maybe they have kids, maybe they are established 321 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: in their lives and they care about each other, they 322 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: love each other. The intimacy just isn't there. But they 323 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: don't want to blow up their whole lives. So they 324 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: both decide, hey, look, you know, you can go off 325 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: and do something, just don't let me find out about it, 326 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: or we can go off, or we're going to open 327 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: up this relationship or whatever. But both parties are okay 328 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: with that, or at least appear to be in this case. 329 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: I feel like if you went to him and said, hey, 330 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: can we open up this relationship, he'd be, you know, 331 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: highly insulted and hurt. 332 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 5: I think so too, But a part of me thinks 333 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 5: that sounds like a really good idea, because if I 334 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 5: could go somewhere else and have that aspect, she still 335 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 5: have this back at home. I'm like, what a great idea. 336 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm serious. 337 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: It's a real thing. This is a real thing. She's 338 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: not saying he's a bad guy. She's not saying that 339 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: she doesn't love him. She's not saying she doesn't care 340 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: about him. She's not even saying she doesn't like spending 341 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: time with him. What she's saying is, for whatever reason, 342 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: the intimacy has expired, she doesn't believe she can fix it. 343 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: And so what does she do? Does she blow up 344 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: the entire relationship and lose her best friend over sex? 345 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: Does she say forget it? I guess I'll just be celibate. 346 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: Does she cheat? Does she ask for an open relationship? 347 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: You know again, I mean think about what her options are. 348 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: You thought about therapy. People were asking about therapy. 349 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've thought about therapy and going. 350 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 5: I just think that we're looking at this situation from 351 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 5: two different viewpoints, and I don't think he's looking at 352 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 5: it as we need therapy. I think he's looking at 353 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 5: it as we can work this out at home. And 354 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 5: I'm perfectly fine going to therapy. My concern with therapy 355 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 5: is saying something like you just suggested of an open marriage, 356 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 5: and then we just open up a whole other can 357 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 5: of worms, and I'm nervous about that. We have talked 358 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 5: about therapy, we have not actively. 359 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: Gone you know what he needs? 360 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: He needs that stuff I see advertised on TikTok all 361 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: the time. That gum that makes it like super hard, 362 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like that there's a gum. 363 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: I forget what it's called, like blue chee or something. 364 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: It's all I see it advertising on TikTok all the time. Yeah, 365 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: it's like, does your man have the blue Cheo? It's 366 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: like because maybe if he comes home and he's just 367 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: like you, maybe maybe what it's going to take is 368 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: a little passion on his point. The blue cho Well, 369 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: maybe he's targeting men because he wouldn't say blue cheo. 370 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: I mean I would get. 371 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: I don't need it yet, I'm sure I will, but 372 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: I've considered ordering it just to see what the hell happened. 373 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, an experiment. 374 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: I've thought about getting my agres too, just to see 375 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: what happened, just to see what I mean again, there's 376 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: going to come a time where I'm going to need 377 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: that stuff. I don't yet, but I'm afraid my heart 378 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: would explode it. I'm afraid I'm just getting greedy, That's 379 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: what i mean. Like, it's already working fine, it doesn't 380 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: need to work finer than fine. But I'm curious. You know, 381 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: my mind wants to know what the hell is blue 382 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: choo stuff. But it's not even that Darcy, because I 383 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: asked you if there was some kind of dysfunction, and 384 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: you said no, No, I. 385 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 5: Feel like if he came home with that problem, that 386 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 5: feels like a hymn problem right now, because that isn't 387 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 5: the problem of him being able to perform. 388 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: What the problem is is that I don't want to 389 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: come to the show. Wouldn't you almost rather that, though? 390 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you almost rather that you really wanted the guy 391 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: and everything was there he would just he just needed 392 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: to work through some kind of a physiological issue. Wouldn't 393 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: that be better? 394 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: You know? 395 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 2: If it's like I know, that's also uncomfortable, but at 396 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: least a desire is there, and you guys can go 397 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: together and work it out and figure out whatever the 398 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 2: health matter is or whatever help he needs or you 399 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 2: need or whatever. But in this case, this dude could 400 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 2: be coming in ready to go all the time. He 401 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: could be blue chewing it up right now, and it 402 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: wouldn't matter because you don't want it. 403 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 5: No, And I would even be more comfortable right now 404 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 5: if there's been infidelity and we could work through that. 405 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 5: This feels like I am the problem. This feels like 406 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 5: I am ruining my marriage because of the way that 407 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 5: I feel, and I can't change the way that I 408 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 5: feel But if he came to me and said that 409 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 5: he cheated, I could say, well, let's work on that. 410 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 5: This doesn't feel like we can work on it. I mean, 411 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 5: I don't know if other people that have been married 412 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 5: as long or together with someone for twenty two years 413 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 5: have ever been to this situation. But everyone I seem 414 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 5: to talk to just says, you just have to work 415 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 5: through it. And it doesn't feel like something I want 416 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 5: to work through because life's a little too short. 417 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: To be this unhappy. 418 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that she's using the word and you are. 419 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 7: You're saying that that's my best friend. That's my best friend, right, 420 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 7: so I think you're taking a lot of this blame 421 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 7: on yourself. You're like, I'd rather him cheat and do that, 422 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 7: and it's like, I wouldn't even go that far. I 423 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 7: just think that you have lost that spark for him. 424 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 7: But I think that's okay. Sad. 425 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: I know it's sad. 426 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 7: It's very upsetting, right, it's her husband for twenty two years. 427 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 7: But if this is a really your best friend that 428 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 7: you keep calling, you know, this is my best friend, 429 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 7: this is the worst and I care about I think 430 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 7: it's best to go your separate ways. 431 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: So that maybe you can still remain friends. You can 432 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: still remain that. 433 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: Let's face it, if he cheats, then she has an opening. 434 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 2: If he cheats, then she can dump him. 435 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: So nice. If he cheats, then she could go, well, 436 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: I now, well why don't you just keep doing that? 437 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: And I'll do this. 438 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: I mean, it's nice, no offense, Darcy, but him him 439 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 2: doing something anything other than you addressing. 440 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: The issue is kind of just a cop out. 441 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 2: It's kind of just a work around, right, I mean, 442 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: because ultimately none of that's going to feel You're not 443 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 2: really going to be happy if e chee. It's because 444 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: you say you still love him and you care about him. 445 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 5: I do, but then I would feel like his needs 446 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 5: of being met but troblem what that is. And I 447 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 5: you know, he is my best friend. I don't think 448 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 5: our friendship or this relationship would survive me coming to 449 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 5: him and telling him I'm just not attracted to you anymore, 450 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 5: because I don't know how I would take that emotionally, 451 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 5: my ego if you came to me and said I 452 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 5: don't want to be intimate with you, I'm the only 453 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 5: one you should want to be intimate with and you're 454 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 5: telling me that, like I love him so much. 455 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: That's why I'm not telling him all of that. Darcy. 456 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: A lot of people are like are pointing to like, 457 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 2: maybe you should go get your hormone check to this, 458 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 2: and that I have to ask, I mean, do you 459 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 2: have the desire otherwise just not with him, or do 460 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: you have no desire at all, just just to check 461 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: that box. 462 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 8: No, that's an interesting question. 463 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 5: There are people that I see that I find attractive 464 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 5: and I fantasize about that. I don't act on it 465 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 5: because I I am married, So I think that desire. 466 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: Is still there. 467 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 2: So this is not a matter of like, you know, 468 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 2: I don't know you're taking medicine that it has reduced 469 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: your libido or because that's also an issue, where like 470 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 2: there really isn't a problem. There's just you know, as 471 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: far as the connections concerned, there's just something going on 472 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 2: where you're you have less drive than you once said. 473 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 2: Let me take some phone calls on this, because we're 474 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 2: a bunch of morons and we're just talking. Maybe other 475 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 2: people have have been through this and can offer something, 476 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: but yeah, it kind of sounds like you're gonna have 477 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: to have a really tough conversation and you're gonna have 478 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: to just be really honest and maybe me. 479 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how you. I really 480 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: don't know how you fix it. But fair right for 481 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: the both of them. And I don't know one who 482 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: thinks that. 483 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's a guy who sounds like he still 484 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: wants it. She just doesn't want it. That's gonna be 485 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 2: devastating to hear it is I'm leaving. 486 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: Someone over sex, though, I mean after that. 487 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's the grass that you always greener. 488 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 3: On the other side, you can't have your kids like that, 489 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: that's true, But do you want a little single Like, yes, 490 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 3: you're gonna have a lot of sex, but you're gonna 491 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: be you could not be in a relationship for the 492 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: longest time. 493 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: You can be lonely for the rest of your life. 494 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: I got a whole list of things you can say 495 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: to people on dating apps to if you need it, 496 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: like you're so out ah w anyway, let me take 497 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 2: some phone calls, Darcy, have the radio one. 498 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: I wish you the best. This is tough, this is complicated. 499 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: I don't know the right because because Ruvio is right, 500 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: I mean, do you want to live a sexless celibate 501 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: life with your best friend. No, but if you lose 502 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: this guy who's this you know, this paramount relationship in 503 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: your life so that you can go out and have 504 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: a bunch of you know, average of disappointing physical connections, then. 505 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: Then I don't know, is that better? Not sure? 506 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: It probably feels like it now, but it may not 507 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: be in the long run. Thank you, Darcy, good luck. 508 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: I got an Amazon look for you girl. Yeah, okay 509 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: for a little Z. So you're suggesting kikiS some. 510 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 9: And then yeah, she might just need to spice it up, 511 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 9: get herself some some some some adult toys maybe that 512 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 9: she can try out. I mean, I feel like she 513 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 9: has not tried everything yet. She's just like I don't 514 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 9: want it, but like, try some things first before you 515 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 9: leave your husband. In best friend, I feel so bad 516 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 9: for him all these years, Like I feel so bad 517 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 9: for the husband, like he's I feel like he's done 518 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 9: nothing wrong. 519 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 4: Now she doesn't want this either, though, I mean, you 520 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 4: know you can't fight those. 521 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 3: But it's not like he's not like it's not like 522 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: he's bad in bed or he's not. 523 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: He doesn't want you. He wants to have sex with 524 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: his wife. Yeah, but she does. 525 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 2: Want to have sort of outgrown him in some ways. 526 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: And I feel like there's always more in these situations. 527 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: There's always more going on. There's something else here that 528 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: we probably don't I don't know, but I've also never 529 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 2: been with somebody for twenty two years, so I don't 530 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 2: know what it's. I mean, honestly, I don't know that 531 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: I would even have any sort of basis for comparison 532 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 2: to be the same person for that period of time. Hey, Christina, 533 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: good morning. Hey what do you think stay or go? 534 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: So just to recap here, this woman's been with this man, 535 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 2: married for like seventeen years, together for twenty two or something, 536 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 2: and she just doesn't want to sleep with him anymore, 537 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: loves him, considers him her best friend, doesn't really have 538 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: the desire to be with him anymore. She still has 539 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: those desires, just not with him. He wants to be 540 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 2: with her, and she's not sure what to do. What 541 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 2: do you think? 542 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 8: I just think that sex is something that you know, 543 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 8: every human being needs in their life, So to hold 544 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 8: it back from somebody, I think is worse. So I 545 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 8: think that she should go, but you know, she should 546 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 8: go in a way where she talks to him about it. 547 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 8: I mean, they are best friends, they do have a connection, and. 548 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: And what he can give it you broke up for 549 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: just a second or what. 550 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 8: Sorry, Like who's who's to say they're not going to 551 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 8: be remain best friends? He could talk to him about it, 552 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 8: but I really feel like she needs to go or 553 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 8: give him the option to have an open marriage. Yeah, 554 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 8: because he just can't take that away from somebody. It's 555 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 8: like he's being punished. 556 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: But it's just that's just not that simple, Like it's 557 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 2: not that simple to say, because like there's someone like me, 558 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: for example, I that would never work for me. Like 559 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: if you came to me and said, I love you, 560 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: but I don't want to be with you anymore. How 561 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: about I sleep with other men and stay with you, 562 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 2: I'd be devastated. That's the end. And you know, so, 563 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: I mean it's not just that symbols just let's just 564 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: say by other folks in like, I don't know, I 565 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: think I would either be in or out on that one. 566 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 2: I don't know that I could just be with someone 567 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 2: who's like, I love you, but I really don't want 568 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: you to like get anywhere near me sexually, Like that 569 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: would have been but other men can I don't know. Christina, 570 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 2: thank you have a good day. 571 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: Glad you called. And that battle that's just me. I mean, 572 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: I trust me. Go on. 573 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 2: Speaking of dating apps, going on these dating apps, ethical ethic, 574 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: this is I'm using air quotes ethical non monogamy all 575 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 2: over the place, all over the place. People And yeah, 576 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: I'm in a relationship, but I want and it's and 577 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: it's all out there, but I want to sleep with 578 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: other people too. It's very common and if it works 579 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: for you, that's great. 580 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 4: I just I don't know, right, And do we always 581 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 4: have it all every single part of a relationship all 582 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 4: the time, for the entirety, you know what I mean? Like, 583 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 4: is it always you have every part of it? Noel, 584 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 4: I feel like that's an unfair expectation. 585 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 1: Hey Dawn, good morning, welcome, good morning. So how are 586 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: you okay? What do you think? Great? Thanks for asking? 587 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: What do you think? 588 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 6: I think she should stay? And I feel like when 589 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 6: she's saying she just keeps her kiating like best friend, 590 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 6: best friend, I love them and stuff like that. It 591 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 6: just sounds like things are routine and comfortable and I'm 592 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 6: presuming and I may have missed this at the very beginning. 593 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 10: I'm presuming that they were pretty sparky at the beginning 594 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 10: of the relationship. 595 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 8: That's why they. 596 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 10: Got into relationship and got married and stuff like that. 597 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,239 Speaker 6: And I think, and it sounds really cliche, but it 598 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 6: just sounds like. 599 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 10: The spark is the spark is missing. 600 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna say it's gone, but it's missing. 601 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 10: And maybe maybe they if they talk, maybe he has 602 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 10: to do a little digging and figure out, you know what, 603 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 10: what's something new that or something that used to work, 604 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 10: you know, what's something new that I can do that 605 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 10: they really knocked her off her heels, you know, and 606 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 10: rest her up. 607 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: I don't see, but I don't think it would matter. 608 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: It doesn't This dude could come in, you know, wrapped 609 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: in latex and you know, all oiled up, But I 610 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: don't know that it would matter. I doesn't sound like 611 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: she would care. It's a bad spot to be in 612 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 2: where there's nothing you can do. All the blue cheo 613 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: in the world is not going to solve this problem. 614 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 10: But maybe maybe they're just because it's so roteat and comfortable, 615 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 10: maybe not thinking outside of the box like that. Maybe, 616 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 10: like he said, maybe maybe better go find a toy 617 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 10: or something or I don't know, maybe can be a 618 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 10: late texting, or maybe maybe it's just a nice long 619 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 10: day like in a lazy river somewhere in a picnic 620 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 10: and just. 621 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 6: I mean, you know what I mean if. 622 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 10: If you're like I don't, I don't know their lifestyle, 623 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 10: so maybe they're just constantly on til it with kids 624 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 10: and work and whatever and really stressed out until if 625 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 10: they just have a really lazy, calm day and can 626 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 10: just I don't know, throw out different things. 627 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: I hear you figure something out. Thank you. 628 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 10: That's a little bit more comfortable. 629 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thank you, John, appreciate you have a 630 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: great day. It's going to be a painful conversation. So 631 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: before she torpedoes the whole damn thing, she may as 632 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 2: well get a sex therapist and a wall or somebody 633 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 2: you know, and have that conversation. You may as well 634 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: go for it. Well lay it all out there, because 635 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 2: it's gonna go one or two ways. Either he's gonna 636 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, I guess you could go a number 637 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 2: of ways. He's going to be super hurt and offended 638 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: and there's no coming back. He's going to say, well, 639 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 2: what if we try a bunch of stuff and then 640 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: she'll go, well, I may as well, or they're going 641 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: to break up. I guess he's gonna go I feel 642 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: the same way. Maybe I'm not sure. 643 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: It's the French show. Good morning. So we came on 644 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: the phone yesterday. 645 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 2: We had Ian and Nina on, and if you remember, 646 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: Ian met Nina on the dating apps. They went on 647 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: a date and and Ian did admit that his father 648 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 2: showed up to get carry out at the restaurant they 649 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: happened to be at, and and Nina was kind enough 650 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 2: to sort of say, oh, hey, nice to meet you. You 651 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 2: want to have a drink with us? Like why he 652 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 2: was waiting for his food, like kind of incorporate him 653 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: into the date, you know what I mean? I mean, 654 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: what are you supposed to do? Like, yeah, blow off 655 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: the dad. He's kind of a weird chance event that 656 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: would happen. But anyway, so we hadn't Neena Ian on 657 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 2: and they're back, Good morning guys, runnang. And so what 658 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 2: we wanted to know is because Ian says it's not possible. 659 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: All well, I should tell you the second part in 660 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 2: case you didn't hear it. When we did talk to 661 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: Meena yesterday, she said that dominic Ian's dad was flirtatious 662 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: with her, touched her leg, was flirting with her. 663 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: Well, he was in the bathroom, well. 664 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: While Ian was away. And Ian his response, Your response, 665 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 2: Ian that't want to make sure I'm getting all this right. 666 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: And Nina too was that there's no way he could 667 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 2: have done this because he's married to your mom and 668 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: he would. 669 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: Never That's what I'm saying, Okay, And Nina, you still 670 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: contend that he absolutely did. 671 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 8: Yes, I mean absolutely, Like there's a difference between being 672 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 8: friendly and putting your hand on someone's sigh and calling 673 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 8: them beautiful. 674 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree, okay. 675 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 2: And so we said yesterday, well let's see if we 676 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: can get the dad on the phone. His name is 677 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: dominic Let's see what happens with that. And so you 678 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: texted your dad and we got him. And so, ladies 679 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: and gentlemen, I'd like you to meet dominic Ian's dad. Morning, 680 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: dominic Good good morning, Fred? Oh it was it? Good 681 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: morning Fred? What is it like like a radio? Did 682 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: you have a did you do radio or summer stock 683 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: or like community theater or like what? 684 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: Good morning everybody? 685 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 11: Well, if you think I should, we can talk about that, 686 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 11: but no, I don't. 687 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. 688 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: But okay, so you heard the explanation here. Ian and 689 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: Nina went out. I guess you ran into Ian and 690 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: Nina at the restaurant. Nina says you flirted with her 691 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 2: and it made her uncomfortable. 692 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: I think this is being blown out of all proportion. 693 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 11: I think to say I was hitting on her, that's 694 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 11: that's an exaggeration. 695 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: You were not hitting on Nina then, and you're you're 696 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: a married man, you're married to Ian's mom. You're saying 697 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: that Nina made the whole thing up. You did not 698 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: touch her leg. I touched I touched her leg. 699 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 11: Look, any any man would be helpless around a woman 700 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 11: that beautiful. 701 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's just hard. 702 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: You're married, dude. You don't get to be helpless right 703 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: other women. You're married. You're married, and plus that's your 704 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: that's your son's date. 705 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: I didn't think there was anything to it. It was 706 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: just like I said, it's harmless flirting. You know, it 707 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: just happens all the time. It's not not a big game. 708 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 11: I didn't think it would turn into a whole situation. 709 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so Ian, he's he's not denying it. He flirted 710 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: with your date. Because he was helpless beautiful. She's very beautiful. 711 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: You hear that? 712 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: Okay, how did you keep your hands off of her? 713 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: You know, like, how could you? 714 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 5: I think? 715 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: First off, I want to say sorry. 716 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: To Nina and you know Dad, I, uh, this is 717 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: so weird, man, that's cool. 718 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: That's not cool, man, Oh my god, say sorry to 719 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: all of us. This is weird. 720 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 7: No. 721 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: First of all, thank you Ian for apologizing to Nina. 722 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 2: That was a nice thing to do, because it turned 723 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 2: out that Nina, I'm sorry. 724 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: Nina, I said, yeah, thank you, Like that was very nice. 725 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: I mean, we all believed her. We all knew that 726 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: she wasn't crazy. The only person here who didn't really 727 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: believe her, Ian was you. So you apologized, Uh, well, 728 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: my dad, I don't think he's doing it. Well, how 729 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: does it make you feel about your dad? Because yeah, 730 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 2: I mean he's married to your mom. Friends friendly. I mean, 731 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: there's but don't we know at a certain point in 732 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: our lives, the difference between lecherous and friendly, like creepy 733 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 2: and being nice, cordial and being. 734 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: Like if he was helpless though fried by her beauty? 735 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, come on, that's. 736 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 9: I tell John his man was a creep putting your 737 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 9: hand on somebody else's leg, Like come on. 738 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 11: Now, yeah, yeah, it's not appropriate. So it's not like 739 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 11: I was massaging her knee. I mean maybe I'm from 740 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 11: a different time, but it was just a very casual 741 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 11: you know. Yeah, that's that's called assault. Yeah, you're not 742 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 11: supposed to do that either unless somebody wants you to. 743 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 11: So well, here's my question though, Nina, like does this 744 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 11: change anything, because you know, it sounds like Ian's kind 745 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 11: of shocked. He didn't realize his dad was of this 746 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 11: or would do it or did do it, and and 747 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 11: and he kind of is admitting that he did. So 748 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 11: I don't know, do you want nothing to do with 749 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 11: Ian because his dad's weird? Or do you do you 750 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 11: now look at Ian differently because he's he's figuring out 751 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 11: that his is weird. 752 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 5: I mean, like again, like Ian's great, but like just 753 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 5: to imagine, like I don't know, at Thanksgiving. 754 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: Or nothing, you've seen this movie before? You don't you 755 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: don't want any part of it? 756 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: He accidentally walks in, are you changing, Yeah. 757 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 12: I've seen I've seen this one. Yeah so no, so no, 758 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 12: no second date, I because we'll pay for it if 759 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 12: you want to give Ian another chance, and we'll ask 760 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 12: the father, we'll get a restraining order, a protective order 761 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 12: against him so he can't come. 762 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 8: I'm so sorry to Ian, like but no, all. 763 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 2: Right, Ian, I'm sorry, man, I don't know how you know, 764 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: how you deal with this and your dad need to 765 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: have a conversation. 766 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: That's that's that's yeah. 767 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 8: My mom I had to be in that conversation too. 768 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: I think she needs to be and a lawyer. 769 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: Well, I mean maybe Thanksgiving dinner, a couple of glasses 770 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: of wine and everybody will see things a little bit differently. 771 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I said, you know, my day, this was 772 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: not a big deal. You know, I was just trying 773 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: to be nice. I think you know it's a harmless 774 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: it was a harmless interaction. 775 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: Oh I see back in your day. Yeah, yeah, okay, 776 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 2: So this is a generational thing, that is what you're saying, 777 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: dominic like, because when you were younger, you can just 778 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 2: touch anybody's girlfriend. 779 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: It's okay, But now it's weird you can't do that. 780 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 11: I don't even if we know if we call that 781 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 11: touching just gently putting your hand on a young lady's leg. 782 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 2: I mean, is that you honestly that made me feel uncomfortable, 783 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: Like right now, my skin is crawling hearing you talk. 784 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: So we're gonna be we're gonna be done now. But 785 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: maybe it is, maybe it is a generational thing. 786 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: I don't think I think it's a I think I 787 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: think we everyone knows what it is. But Ian, I'm 788 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: sorry that you find out this way. 789 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: Nina. 790 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: Thank you for your patience and for your time, and 791 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: I'm sorry it didn't work out. Good luck to all 792 00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 2: of you. 793 00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: Okay,