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Speaker 1: With every cadre's what's the trick in like AA and

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Speaker 1: detox and rehab, Like, what's the trick when they tell

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Speaker 1: you to like avoid temptation, do they give you like

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Speaker 1: little tips like hey, when your friends drink around you,

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Speaker 1: don't do this kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: Or no, I mean, for the most part they told me,

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Speaker 2: I mean to to.

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Speaker 3: It's a theory that you use called go towards the roar,

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Speaker 3: which pretty much means like, you know.

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Speaker 4: Towards your what go towards the roar, the roar, the roar.

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Speaker 2: Like when the lion roar.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's like you know, when lions hung gazelles,

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Speaker 3: one of them a roar, and the gazelles are run

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Speaker 3: the opposite way and it's a pack of lines waiting

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Speaker 3: on them. So they tell you go towards the rarer.

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Speaker 3: You want to be around drinking. You want to be

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Speaker 3: around all the things that you was around, because if

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Speaker 3: you try to avoid it and run from it so much,

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Speaker 3: by the time you get you probably get around it.

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Speaker 2: It's probably what's going to cause you to relft.

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Speaker 3: But if you especially when you're fresh and you first

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Speaker 3: coming out, so being around people drinking and you know,

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Speaker 3: doing whatever they want to do. After a while, you

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Speaker 3: just get used to it, so didn't You never want

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Speaker 3: to make people uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to be the sober guy, and people

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Speaker 2: like I don't want to do nothing wrong, you know,

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Speaker 2: I want people to be themself.

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Speaker 4: You know, right right interesting go towards the roar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right?

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Speaker 3: And it worked too, because now you know, the first

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Speaker 3: day I got out of rehab, I had to play

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Speaker 3: a show at Arizona State.

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Speaker 4: That's rough. That's rough. Were you like shaking? Were you

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Speaker 4: like fucking did you have the dts and like that?

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Speaker 2: I mean it wasn't that.

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Speaker 3: It was just I was just so nervous because I

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Speaker 3: was so used to relying on alcohol to do the shows.

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Speaker 2: To be up.

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Speaker 4: There, it was like it comes a crutch.

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Speaker 2: I still got thirty minutes left, like, yeah, oh my

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Speaker 2: god when this in. And the first place we went

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Speaker 2: to go eat, they ain't had no table boys.

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Speaker 3: I had to sit at the bar, go towards the rary.

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Speaker 4: Really like they really tested your metal first day out.

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Speaker 3: Literally the first day I got out.

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Speaker 4: To go to rehab in Florida or California.

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Speaker 2: I'm in Philadelphia. I mean it's Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 5: Oh you were like in the woods, Karen, where there

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Speaker 5: are they're like rappers in there and Ship I was

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Speaker 5: the only one.

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Speaker 2: I think I was the first rapper to ever go there.

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Speaker 4: Oh really it was a bunch of like businessman and Ship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and and there's a lot of kids, so I

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Speaker 2: was getting noticed all the time.

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Speaker 4: Oh shure, yeah, you're taking selfies.

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Speaker 2: I mean no, he couldn't do We couldn't. We couldn't

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Speaker 2: have a pone.

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Speaker 4: We Oh Ship my friend did.

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Speaker 5: He was addicted to percocet and he did rehab in Florida,

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Speaker 5: and he said the first day rehabs the best when you're.

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Speaker 4: On pills because they give you all the pills. They

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Speaker 4: don't want you to go through withdrawal.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, die.

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Speaker 5: You know, if you're addicted to xanex or something, you

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Speaker 5: could seizure, and if you're addicted to opiates, you could

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Speaker 5: get you know, withdraws.

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Speaker 3: Showed up drunk, I was, I can't drunk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what is detox? I think detox you from alcohol.

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Speaker 2: It's just I mean, see I was.

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Speaker 3: I mean I actually was lucky because I didn't have

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Speaker 3: like withdrawal syndromes and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 3: I think that's mostly for people that drink beer because

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Speaker 3: they drink beer all day every day. And me, I

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Speaker 3: was just, you know, I drink a lot of liquor,

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Speaker 3: but it wasn't like I drink.

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Speaker 2: I fifth of liquor every day. You know.

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Speaker 3: It's probably like by the time I was going in

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Speaker 3: probably like every two days, every three days. But detox

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Speaker 3: is pretty much just like being in the hospital. You

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Speaker 3: just layd in the hospital bed watching murder shows. They're

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Speaker 3: checking on you every thirty minutes.

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Speaker 5: Are they giving you medicine so that you don't have

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Speaker 5: like a withdrawal kind of something or no.

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Speaker 3: Just I'm saying I got lucky. I didn't have any

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Speaker 3: withdrawal symptoms or nothing like that, so they didn't have to.

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Speaker 3: They just put me on like an anxiety medication because

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Speaker 3: I was just you know, I still was in there

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Speaker 3: for weed too, and.

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Speaker 2: We was like my anxiety go to.

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Speaker 3: So they wanted to give me something, but I didn't need,

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Speaker 3: you know, like stuff for alcohol stuff.

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't have no messed up kidney, a

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Speaker 2: liver or nothing like that.

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Speaker 4: So SHIP so they did blood work on you and

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Speaker 4: your health and all that.

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Speaker 2: SHIP they go up in your asshole they got. I

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Speaker 2: was in there, nervous, like man, all type of shit.

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Speaker 5: There was people in there like fucked up, like some

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Speaker 5: people that were definitely alcohol definitely maybe like life or

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Speaker 5: alcoholics in there and like like you know.

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Speaker 3: Because they say, you just can't stop alcohol, just cold turkey,

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Speaker 3: you might die. You know, certain people they've been drinking

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Speaker 3: like that for such a period long period of time.

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Speaker 3: But I, like I said, I think for the most

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Speaker 3: part of the people that drink a lot of beer,

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Speaker 3: Like you got to think of a person that wake

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Speaker 3: up and they can't get out the they can't get

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Speaker 3: out of bed until they get a beer. Them type

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Speaker 3: of mothers like that was the ones that was really

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Speaker 3: like you can see them going through it.

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Speaker 2: And they would be on these tapers.

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Speaker 3: They called it taper medication, so they would have to

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Speaker 3: go to get tapers like we all had like medical,

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Speaker 3: go get medications and ship.

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Speaker 2: But I ain't get.

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Speaker 4: Tapers so that they could wean off of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what my perkosept friend said. He was like,

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Speaker 5: they give you all the pills at the front. I

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Speaker 5: was he he was in there for thirty days and

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Speaker 5: he goes and you get like less and less pills

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Speaker 5: each day or whatever.

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Speaker 4: But he goes, but a lot of guys they're so addicted.

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Speaker 5: They're like they're like hiding the pills in like the

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Speaker 5: corner of their mouth, and they're trying to like they're

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Speaker 5: trying to hide the pills from the whatever, the nurses,

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Speaker 5: I guess. And he said, like it's robbing Peter to

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Speaker 5: pay Paul because you you're only stealing pills from yourself.

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Speaker 3: They're trying to wor what they do is they trying

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Speaker 3: to get enough so they can take a lot at

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Speaker 3: one time, because they're only giving you just enough to

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Speaker 3: not really be hiding like that. But if you saved

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Speaker 3: a few of them, you know what I'm saying, you

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Speaker 3: problem all at one time, you'd be like, oh, it's

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Speaker 3: lit

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Speaker 1: All with a recadre