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Speaker 2: on the Herd, which just flying by Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Jason mcattyre in for Colin Cowherd. He has checked in

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Speaker 3: by the way, he stopped ghosting me. I didn't reply

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Speaker 3: on purpose. You know, I'm gonna act cool like, hey,

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Speaker 3: I can't reply instantly from waiting a day, don't tell

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Speaker 3: me Enjoy by Rachel Nichols, who knows about texting. You

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Speaker 3: don't instantly text back to everybody?

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Speaker 4: Well you never double text?

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Speaker 3: Really is that a rule?

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Speaker 5: So if you're if like you, you are in a

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Speaker 5: relationship with someone, which is apparently in Colin, you don't

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Speaker 5: want to be like, hey, how's it going, and then

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Speaker 5: if they don't answer, you be like hey, how's it

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Speaker 5: going again?

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Speaker 4: Or be you know or whatever.

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Speaker 5: So my friends who are in dating situations, I always say,

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Speaker 5: you know, don't double text. If the guy doesn't answer you.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't answer you, don't then.

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Speaker 4: Go back because that looks very desperate. So don't double text.

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Speaker 3: Jason, we should start a podcast about dating etiquette, even

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Speaker 3: though we're both married. I was gonna say, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I know something.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 4: I know nothing about the day's current dating mars.

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Speaker 3: I hear dating in LA is very difficult.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think dating in general these days is difficult.

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Speaker 3: What do I know?

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Speaker 7: Any way?

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Speaker 4: What do you know?

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Speaker 3: Either? I know anything nothing about dating, But I do

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Speaker 3: know a little bit about NBA MVP awards, Folks. He's

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Speaker 3: on such a heater. I figure, we've got to recalibrate

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Speaker 3: the MVP.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a vote, Rachel does, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: go five to one NBA MVP candidates. Now, I know

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Speaker 3: there's a straw poll out there that's as SGAs a

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Speaker 3: lock balder dad. Things change results as matters. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with number five, number five, SGA. I know

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Speaker 3: everybody thinks he's number one, No he's not. How is

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Speaker 3: Like he's a big favorite minus one thousand? But you

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Speaker 3: know that's Ila, I'm an underdog. Better listen. Yes, they

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Speaker 3: have the best record in the NBA. Yes, SGAs I

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Speaker 3: mentally talented and grad He's in a couple of game winners.

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Speaker 3: But but they also have like the best roster in

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Speaker 3: blow your mind comparing SGA to other guys on this list.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go SGA five. Who's next?

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Speaker 8: Number four?

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Speaker 3: Nicola Jokich. You know Denver's taking a bit of a

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Speaker 3: has hurt Nicole Jokis four. It's not a slight He's

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Speaker 3: been amazing. But Denver's also sixth in the West. If

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Speaker 3: I SGA five, and again I have Jokic four, And

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Speaker 3: Number three, I'm going Jalen Brown. Guys, Yeah, you like

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Speaker 3: That's just extraordinary. I like Jalen Brown a lot. I

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Speaker 3: a lengthy line, shall we say, of NBA GM's roll in.

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Speaker 3: I'm like for Jalen Brown. I didn't think he was

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Speaker 3: I'm going with Victor Wembin Yama or Big Vic the Man,

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Speaker 3: There's just too many accolades for me to get into

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Speaker 3: here for Luca. But I have Luca number one. He

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Speaker 3: is my MVP vote as of right now. The fictitious

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Speaker 3: know you probably don't like it. Real quick, here's JJ

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Speaker 3: Reddick on Luca's sixty poor performance last night.

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Speaker 9: obviously he's missed time. Lebron's miss time, Ar's miss time.

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Speaker 9: You know, he's to the MVP point. Like, we would

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Speaker 3: Right now, right here's the stat that I teased earlier.

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Speaker 3: I know you guys, they're going to social media. Team's

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Speaker 3: the team records without these five players. Are you ready

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Speaker 3: for this? This is jaw dropping stuff. So essentially, you

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Speaker 3: Okac's just fine without SGA Lakers a little less so.

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Speaker 3: The Jaylen Brown one shocked me. The Jokich one surprised

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Speaker 3: me as kind of sort of did the Wemby one? Now,

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Speaker 3: But the fact that the Lakers without Luca struggle, I

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Speaker 3: without a doubt, I have Luca soaring to the top

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Speaker 3: up here in a minute, Rachel. I'm just curious. Do

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Speaker 4: I think it's a good thing you don't have an MVP.

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Speaker 3: But come on, I mean, silver watching this show.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, even that's that you just put up there, Luca,

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Speaker 5: a number of the games he missed. Austin Reeves also messed,

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Speaker 5: so you're just not taking all of that into account.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't judge that stat so much. Look, I think

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Speaker 5: what Luca Dontish is doing is incredible. It goes all

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Speaker 5: the way back to the trade of how dumb it

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Speaker 5: I mean, it just still makes no sense. I think

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Speaker 5: he is absolutely the Lakers future. There isn't a question

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Speaker 5: though that for a big chunk of the season he

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Speaker 5: decides not to play defense. Now, I will always tell

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Speaker 5: he absolutely will. He's never going to be a lockdown defender,

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Speaker 5: but he definitely can hold his own and we saw

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Speaker 5: But he doesn't do it for a big chunk of

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Speaker 5: the season. That's a decision on his part. And with

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Speaker 5: a race between SGA, Luca and Wemby.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The other thing watching these highlights, he at nine

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Speaker 3: threes last night, so SGA the mid range is just unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's impossible to stop the Jokich high arching three.

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Speaker 3: Luca's moves to set up his three look slow.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I just keep asking myself, how can nobody defend that

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Speaker 5: Luca's footwork is one of the best in the NBA,

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Speaker 5: and in a long time, Luca and Jokich have the

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Speaker 5: best footwork I have seen in a like a decade

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Speaker 3: So, speaking of great footwork, our next guest of the

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Speaker 3: New Orleans Pelicans has amazing footwork. Derek Queen, first year

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Speaker 3: what's up, Derek? How you doing, my man? I'm doing good?

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Speaker 3: Thanks a lot, Derek joining us celebrating an awesome first

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Speaker 3: year with the Pelicans. Listen, you're a young guy, You're

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Speaker 6: Get that question to lie. I think so, I didn't

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Speaker 6: really have like a big idea of where it was

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Speaker 6: got great bench. I've been around a great staff.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 4: I had a lot of fun this ship.

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Speaker 3: I can only imagine it's tough going to a new city,

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Speaker 3: brand new team. I guess, how have you liked New Orleans?

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Speaker 3: What what? I spent some time there. It seems like

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, New Orleans is I actually love it. I

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Speaker 6: think it's close to Baltimore. Ah, I'm from It's Uh,

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Speaker 6: everything so close. The food is good that people say

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Speaker 6: each other hospitality, that's good, and it's there's a few.

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Speaker 4: Things to do here.

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Speaker 3: Sounds sounds awesome. So now you're joining us, uh courtesy

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Speaker 3: of Dairy Queen. What are you working with Dairy Queen doing?

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Speaker 6: Uh? Yeah, it's just a partnership that that that everybody

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Speaker 6: just promoting the Busta ball treats.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, DQ obviously Dairy Queen, great spot. I'm just curious.

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Speaker 3: So the Pelicans have one of the youngest rosters in

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Speaker 3: the league. You guys are incredibly young. What's that like?

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Speaker 3: You know, you're a vocal leader, you are a leader

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Speaker 3: locker room with a lot of young guys.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we actually got one old guy, DeAndre, But but

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Speaker 6: but we all like like they still got years in

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Speaker 6: this in the NBA.

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Speaker 10: They are.

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Speaker 3: Know what they're talking about.

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Speaker 3: a big story I'm told just dropped on Giannis's future

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Speaker 5: The ratings are in for the World Baseball Classic and

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Speaker 5: This is a guy who has been to five World

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Speaker 4: Not to win. He is not one one. No, yeah,

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Speaker 5: and if he doesn't sign it, you trade him. You

437
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 5: can trade him anyway, not offer the extension, because here

438
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Speaker 5: is a guy who has had multiple leg injuries in

439
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Speaker 5: recent years.

440
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Speaker 4: He's kind of you will he or.

441
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Speaker 3: Won't he thirty one years old? That I think that's relevant.

442
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 4: And the offers were good.

443
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Speaker 5: I mean, Golden State offered the box four unprotected first

444
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 5: round draft picks. That is a crazy number, completely unprotected.

445
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 3: Wait, wait with Giannis and Steph those are going to

446
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,360
Speaker 3: be back in the first round and you get no players.

447
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Speaker 5: They don't have any players, I mean, so I think

448
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 5: the idea was to throw in a couple players, and

449
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 5: the fact that the players weren't good enough was part

450
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Speaker 5: of the reason they didn't take them.

451
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Speaker 4: But I'm sorry, four unprotected first pick round picks.

452
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Speaker 3: Let me ask, so what if the Orlando Magic were like,

453
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Speaker 3: and fine, we can, We'll offer you three first and

454
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Speaker 3: Paolo Benkero, a guy who is a really good player,

455
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 3: all star Olympian caliber, and you're not going to bottom out,

456
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Speaker 3: you at least have someone that the people can go

457
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Speaker 3: watch it. Would would you rather get a player and

458
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Speaker 3: picks or just a boatload of picks?

459
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think they feel that they keep selling tickets,

460
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 5: they need to get a player in picks that they

461
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Speaker 5: can't completely bottom out, that they need to be able

462
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Speaker 5: to maintain a winning sensibility. I mean the other way

463
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Speaker 5: to play it if you do go the extension round

464
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Speaker 5: is to make a big deal of it to your fans.

465
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Speaker 5: Be like, we want Yannis here. We are offering an extension.

466
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 5: It's you know, three hundred million dollars. Basically, he gets

467
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Speaker 5: to decide if he wants to play here or not.

468
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Speaker 5: And if they go that direction, you are putting that

469
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Speaker 5: pressure back on Yannis instead of being like, oh, we

470
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Speaker 5: have to trade it. But who's making that decision is

471
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Speaker 5: so fascinating, So you would know.

472
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Speaker 4: This better than I.

473
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Speaker 8: Is it?

474
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Speaker 3: They can't offer the extension extension until October first.

475
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Speaker 4: I think so or that was that of this year.

476
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Speaker 3: Then it becomes like, okay, do you wait until he

477
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Speaker 3: says no on October first, Right, then then you make

478
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Speaker 3: the trade for the season. Yeah, I think they have

479
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 3: to find out over the summer. But everything's going to

480
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Speaker 3: be done by the summer.

481
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it will or won't.

482
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Speaker 5: As we saw a trade deadline the market movestrianas this

483
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 5: is not like a you know, third tier player.

484
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Speaker 3: I got to ask. It looks like I tried to

485
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Speaker 3: count the injuries here. It looks like he said five

486
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Speaker 3: injuries this season. He's thirty one and a half. Well, fine,

487
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Speaker 3: December birthdays are not half yet, but you know where

488
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 3: we're headed. Yeah, what's he gonna look like at thirty five?

489
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Speaker 5: I mean that's part of the question right now. A

490
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 5: couple of those five injuries were just total flukes. The

491
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Speaker 5: injury he has right now, it has nothing to do

492
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Speaker 5: with the structure of his body. Yeah, but to your point, look,

493
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Speaker 5: they have n't been out of the first round of

494
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Speaker 5: the playoffs last few seasons. Some of that is because

495
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Speaker 5: Jannis has been hurt.

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's just remind people Luca was traded when

497
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Speaker 3: he was twenty six.

498
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Speaker 4: Well, that was you can't you can't.

499
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Speaker 3: Well no, I'm saying, like you're getting a guy in

500
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Speaker 3: entering his prime at twenty six Yeah, y honest, he's

501
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying where is he in it like back

502
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Speaker 3: end of his prime? How many years does he have

503
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Speaker 3: as an MVP candidate? Two?

504
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Speaker 5: It's hard to tell. Right Lebron is playing at forty

505
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 5: one years old. I mean, what we're seeing right now

506
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 5: is a stretch of players prime and with a guy

507
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 5: like Yannis, with big men, it's injuries that tend to

508
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 5: shorten that prime. And you know, Steph Curry can shoot

509
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Speaker 5: the ball forever. Kevin Durant if he wants, you know,

510
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Speaker 5: he said the other day Lebron could play till forty five.

511
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Speaker 5: If Kevin Durant wants to play till these forty five,

512
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Speaker 5: he absolutely can spot up in the corner and shoot.

513
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Speaker 4: A big guy is very different.

514
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Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to get the hall people

515
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Speaker 3: think they're going to get. I think they waited too long.

516
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Speaker 4: They were offered pretty big halls just a few months ago.

517
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Speaker 3: Should have taken them.

518
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Speaker 5: So that's the question is should they have moved him earlier.

519
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Speaker 5: You know, teams are always more desperate around the trade

520
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Speaker 5: deadline because they have seen where they are and guys

521
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Speaker 5: who are for.

522
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Speaker 3: Their side, the box team. Let's remove Lakers, Let's remove Nicks.

523
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Speaker 3: Give me someone.

524
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Speaker 5: Well, the reason I think those two teams are the

525
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Speaker 5: teams we're going to talk about is that by doing

526
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Speaker 5: and expiring, by waiting until his contract was expiring, Jannis

527
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,959
Speaker 5: now has a huge saying where he goes. The thing

528
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 5: about doing it at the deadline is that teams felt like, great,

529
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Speaker 5: I'm getting a year and a half of Yanna's and

530
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Speaker 5: that's worth it to me as a gmaw Leonard because well,

531
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Speaker 5: even more so, though you're getting more time, it's two,

532
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 5: it's two championships, not just one. And you know he'll

533
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 5: decide that he likes to hear and he'll probably stay and.

534
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 4: All of that stuff.

535
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 5: And especially for guys who are on the hot seat,

536
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 5: this is just saving your job for a couple more years.

537
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 4: Right now, it's an expiring contract.

538
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Speaker 5: If you trade for him in an expiring contract, you're

539
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Speaker 5: probably not going.

540
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Speaker 4: To give up for first round draft.

541
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Speaker 5: Yes, unless you've gotten a signal from Jannis that he

542
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Speaker 5: wants to be there. Look, he's flirted with the Warriors

543
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 5: if you want to have another team out there, but

544
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Speaker 5: I don't know if.

545
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Speaker 3: That's going to happen they have, like Jimmy Butler's still

546
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Speaker 3: out onto.

547
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Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler's part of the contract that would have to

548
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Speaker 4: get traded.

549
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Speaker 3: So I'm trading for a guy who's coming off an

550
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Speaker 3: achilles at like thirty five. Is there a world where

551
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Speaker 3: the Pistons make a play when with Kate Cunningham? Does

552
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Speaker 3: that work? I just don't know that they have the

553
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Speaker 3: pieces to trade. I'm looking at the standings. I don't

554
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 3: think there's a slam dune deal out there. I would

555
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Speaker 3: keep an eye on the Clippers, but I do kind

556
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Speaker 3: of like what the clip Clippers have with Garland Matherin

557
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 3: and Kawhi.

558
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Speaker 4: Well, the Clippers are a big question also, so you know, look.

559
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Speaker 3: Oh we'll see the kawhif.

560
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Speaker 5: So we'll see, We'll see what they have to offer

561
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Speaker 5: because they don't have a lot of draft picks since

562
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Speaker 5: the Shakey trade, right, and we'll see.

563
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: I literally have no idea.

564
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Speaker 5: I'm not, you know, hinting at anything, but if they

565
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Speaker 5: get a bunch of draft picks taken away, they can't

566
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Speaker 5: even be at me on this.

567
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Speaker 3: Ok is the team with a bunch of draft picks?

568
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Speaker 6: Right?

569
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Speaker 3: Yes?

570
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Speaker 4: Okay, see on the Spurs, both up a boatload of traffic.

571
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Speaker 3: Spurs beat the Thunder, where Lakers beat the thunder, uh,

572
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Speaker 3: and then the Thunder say we need Giannis. We'll giving

573
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 3: up J Dub and Caruse Show and all these other guys. Yeah,

574
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Speaker 3: I mean that that.

575
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Speaker 5: I don't know if they're going to do that, but

576
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 5: that would be better fit than the Spurs, who also have.

577
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Speaker 4: A boatload of draft picks.

578
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 3: I don't think Spurs are in the mix at all now.

579
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, so we'll see.

580
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Speaker 5: I do want to talk to you more about Lebron

581
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Speaker 5: James and some of what you were discussed earlier. You know, look,

582
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 5: he has been hooping the last two games, there is

583
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 5: no question about that. Forty nine points over two games,

584
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 5: twenty one of twenty six, shooting to an O wins

585
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 5: right in the last twenty four hours, and after the

586
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 5: win in Miami, he had some words for the people

587
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 5: who've been criticizing him while season Jays.

588
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 10: I mean his salespapers a lot easier, and clippings and podcasts.

589
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 10: If you say Lebron, you bet their team is better

590
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 10: off with on him. It's a lot of people I

591
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 10: like view it, so I get it. They're absolutely wrong.

592
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 4: They're absolutely wrong. With Usmurk.

593
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 5: I god bless Lebron for still thinking that newspaper clippings

594
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 5: are important.

595
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 4: As someone who started in newspapers, I appreciate that.

596
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 5: Look, the question is not whether a team is better

597
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 5: or worse with Lebron James on it. He is obviously

598
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 5: still playing at such a high level. It's whether Lebron

599
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 5: is willing to fulfill the role that he is clearly

600
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 5: now willing to fill in just the last couple of

601
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Speaker 5: weeks of the season in a playoff run.

602
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 6: Right.

603
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 5: That's very different to say is he willing to do

604
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 5: it all next season? Because if he is, of course

605
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 5: he's better than any other guy you're going to get

606
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 5: in that spot. I mean, when Luca same player went

607
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 5: to the NBA Finals, it was with Kyrie Irving and

608
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 5: the third guy who was doing the diving on the

609
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 5: floor and the little things that was paid a much

610
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 5: smaller amount a guy like PJ Washington, Right, is what

611
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 5: I rather have Lebron than PJ Washington, No respect disrespect

612
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 5: to PJ. Of course I would rather have Lebron than

613
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 5: PJ Washington. But he has to be willing to fulfill

614
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 5: that role. And that's the big question of whether it's

615
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 5: good or not good to have Lebron on your team,

616
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 5: because if he is trying to fulfill Luca's role, it's

617
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 5: actually probably better not to have him on your team.

618
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 5: But I do I look, it's fun for people to

619
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 5: be able to prove the critics wrong.

620
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Speaker 3: I get it, man, It's it's really special what he's

621
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: doing there. It is.

622
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Speaker 5: And by the way, no one is more criticized than

623
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 5: Lebron for reasons that I don't understand.

624
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: Can can you? I mean, the guy's been in the

625
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 3: spot like I think sixteen eight of me.

626
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 5: I met him when he was a high school See,

627
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 5: I would not be meeting most people when they are

628
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 5: high school seniors.

629
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Speaker 3: I can igin game him against Carmelo Anthony Graham, Oh

630
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: that was creazy. Yeah, I was like, this guy's amazing. Yeah,

631
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: he's been in the spot like that long and has

632
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: largely avoided any drama, major controversy. I would say, off

633
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: the court, off the court, on the court, he's been awesome.

634
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: He's been a great ambassador for the league. I've been

635
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: calling him the goat since he won the title with

636
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: the Lakers. Everywhere he goes, he wins. Now he's in

637
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: a different role and he's winning. Come on, the guy,

638
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 3: he's unsurpassed.

639
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean that's the question right when he says, oh,

640
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 5: it's ridiculous people would say our team is better without

641
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 5: Lebron on it. He is if he's willing to play

642
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 5: this role and get paid for it in that way.

643
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 5: It's not if he's trying to compete with Luca when

644
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 5: they play the same way and they both need the

645
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 5: ball in their hands.

646
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 4: So it's just it's a it's it's more.

647
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 5: As with most things, it's more complex than a SoundBite,

648
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 5: for sure. But I look, as I said, no one

649
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 5: is more criticized, No player that good I have ever

650
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 5: seen in my career criticized as much. And for him

651
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 5: to be able to sort of look in people's faces

652
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 5: and go.

653
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 8: How do you like me?

654
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 4: Now, it's kind of fun when you see athletes do that.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, all right, Rachel with the news.

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Speaker 8: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 8: herd Line news.

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Speaker 3: So bam Outebio scored eighty three points last week. Impressive.

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Speaker 3: Lucas sixty last night on a back to back more impressive. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I said it. I'll back it up next.

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Speaker 4: We're tired, schrushired.

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Speaker 3: Come on.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look at the guys who were playing Star

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Speaker 3: All right, we got we got some time here, so

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Speaker 3: two good topics. I'll go dealer's choice, Rachel, do you

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Speaker 3: want me to do Luca or high Point? First? I

674
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Speaker 3: don't want I didn't ask the staff specifically. He's gonna

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Speaker 3: know what they would say, but I'll ask you.

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Speaker 4: Well, we just we just talked about Lebron and the Lakers.

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Speaker 4: So let's throw a little high.

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Speaker 8: Point in there.

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Speaker 3: All right, Let's go n SA tourn okay, and.

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Speaker 4: Then we can do a little bit more on Luca's scoring.

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Speaker 3: This is awesome. So high Point took down Wisconsin yesterday.

682
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: Big upset. Wisconsin, of course, looked great in the Big

683
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Speaker 3: ten season. High Point just refuses to die. Trailed almost

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Speaker 3: the entire game. The guy who scored their game winning

685
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Speaker 3: basket didn't make a two pointer all season. He's just

686
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Speaker 3: a chucker like me. So High Point gets a win,

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Speaker 3: and afterward their coach who's on the All Name team,

688
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Speaker 3: Flynn Clayman. Okay, by the way, I couldn't believe this.

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Speaker 3: Let me triple check first year head coach for High Point.

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Speaker 3: He had never best I can tell, never been a

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Speaker 3: head coach before. Listen to how serious he is, and

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Speaker 3: this is actually a good topic. Take a listen, and.

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Speaker 11: It's pretty obvious to me that something needs to be

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Speaker 11: done about this non conference scheduling High Point in Miami,

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Speaker 11: Ohio or two to oh in quad one games. We

696
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Speaker 11: couldn't get games. They couldn't get games. We won twenty

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Speaker 11: two of our last twenty three games, and we didn't

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Speaker 11: move up one spot in the metrics, not one. We

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Speaker 11: won twenty two of our twenty three. We've won twenty

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Speaker 11: five games by double digits. That team, right there is

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Speaker 11: a fantastic team that'll beat five top ten teams. If

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Speaker 11: we can get games like this on neutral courts and

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Speaker 11: some home games, I think we know who's really the

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Speaker 11: best teams.

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Speaker 8: I'm proud of.

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Speaker 11: These dudes, and we're not just here to win one game.

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Speaker 11: We're here to get to the sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Right. He's a young guy. He's a little too intense, like, bro,

709
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Speaker 3: you just got to win over Wisconsin? Can you use

710
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Speaker 3: crack a smile? But he's all business right now. And

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Speaker 3: you know what, if you listen closely, he's spot on.

712
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Speaker 3: He nailed that. You absolutely have to set up a

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Speaker 3: system where everybody's in set device to play everyone else.

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Speaker 3: It's just not fair because that then it comes down

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Speaker 3: to the tournament and the bubble. Wow, this team that

716
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Speaker 3: they have no quad one wins, Hello, nobody would play them.

717
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Speaker 3: That's just how it works. There's zero incentive for the

718
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Speaker 3: big dogs to play the small guy none. It's just

719
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's goofy. It's a bad system, but that's

720
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Speaker 3: how it is. I don't know the easy fix. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the NBA set up an in season tournament to like

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Speaker 3: gin up interest, and I remember college basketball would do

723
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Speaker 3: like they named it some kind of week and it

724
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Speaker 3: would be like Big Ten versus the SEC, and then

725
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Speaker 3: it would be you know, they'd have some mid majors

726
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Speaker 3: go head to head, but you would never get like

727
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Speaker 3: North Carolina versus high Point because it's only a loss

728
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Speaker 3: for North Carolina. If you win, who cares if you lose?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's a blemish on your record, and

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Speaker 3: you know that's got to change. I don't know how

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Speaker 3: you change that. It's kind of we're seeing this kind

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Speaker 3: of in college sports a little bit where it's just

733
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Speaker 3: the divide is massive and the big guys do not

734
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Speaker 3: want to play the little guys they can lean on. Well,

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Speaker 3: we got our conference schedule, and where's the help. I'm

736
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Speaker 3: going to your high Point to take an l That's

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Speaker 3: how I get fired. You know, we lost a high

738
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Speaker 3: Point in November. Oh my gosh, he's on the hot seat.

739
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Speaker 3: Like nobody wants to deal with that. It's a tough situation.

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Speaker 3: College sports going through a lot of change in growth.

741
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Speaker 3: They've got to figure it out. Rachel. I know, we

742
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Speaker 3: tried to solve the NBA tanking. We tried to solve

743
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Speaker 3: the NBA another big issue. Any thoughts here on what

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Speaker 3: can be done well.

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Speaker 5: De Emphasizing strength of schedule is kind of the only

746
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Speaker 5: way to do this because big teams aren't incentivized to

747
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Speaker 5: play small teams because it hurts their strength of schedule. Right,

748
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Speaker 5: So the small teams who are really good can't get

749
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Speaker 5: big games, so it hurts their strength of schedule. So

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Speaker 5: strength of schedule it's a good metric, right, I mean,

751
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Speaker 5: it helps you decide how valuable certain teams wins are.

752
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Speaker 5: But maybe it's just emphasized too much, because right now

753
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 5: it's an unfair system, fraighting on both sides.

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Speaker 3: Right, maybe if they do a weighted like out of

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent, what matters. Strength of schedule is like

756
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Speaker 3: ten percent as opposed to like forty, which it seems

757
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Speaker 3: to be now. So college you got to figure it out,

758
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: because high points a hell of a story. I do

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Speaker 3: think they get I think they got Arkansas next. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna get destroyed by Darius a cuff. Sorry, mister

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00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: Flynn Claiman's all right, Let's move on to the NBA

762
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: and Luca's sixty last night. So it comes on the

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Speaker 3: heels and I actually thought, I'm like, Lucas scored sixty.

764
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Speaker 3: That's weird. Oh it was against the heat. Oh that's right,

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Speaker 3: Bam just dropped eighty three. I wonder if this is

766
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Speaker 3: a get back. Hey, Bam, you're not that special, remember

767
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Speaker 3: Bam was? I mean, there was more criticism for his

768
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Speaker 3: eighty three point game than I think he anticipated. Some

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Speaker 3: of it warranted. Someone was over the top. I mean,

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Speaker 3: eighty three points is tough to do. But after Luca

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Speaker 3: dropped sixty on BAM last night, and again here's BAM

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Speaker 3: cooking against the Washington Wizards. Rachel's tanking Wizards. That was

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Speaker 3: last week.

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Speaker 4: He scored an unnecessary straight thank you.

775
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Speaker 3: But here's BAM on Luca after Lucas scored six. Tell

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Speaker 3: me what you think here?

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Speaker 7: I know iticed like the being that mode as people

778
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Speaker 7: were going to see it is not easy to get eighty.

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Speaker 3: A little debate among the staff here. I think he

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Speaker 3: was saying that in jest, and not everybody seems to

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Speaker 3: think that he's smiling, you know, stroking the goateee. It's

782
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Speaker 3: like it it's tough to get eighty trump tough to

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Speaker 3: drop an eighty burger. Luca had sixty. Oh my gosh,

784
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Speaker 3: he had nine threes. How could Luca go from sixty

785
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Speaker 3: to eighty three like another twenty three points? No way.

786
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Speaker 3: Now it was on a back to back. It does show.

787
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Speaker 3: Yet eighty three is hard, and that's why BAM gets props.

788
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Speaker 3: But my take was the sixties actually more impressive because

789
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Speaker 3: it was on a back to back on a brutal

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Speaker 3: travel spot. And oh, by the way, it was a

791
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Speaker 3: game that battered against a good team. Nobody tanking in

792
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Speaker 3: this one. He'd had their full arsenal guys Tyler Hero played,

793
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: Norman Powell played, and oh yeah, there was no gimmick

794
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 3: stuff with like intentional fouls, a jacking threes that you

795
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 3: wouldn't normally shot. Everything was within the structure of the offense.

796
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 3: I mean, he's nine of seventeen from three he only

797
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: took thirty shots. He didn't like get to the foul line.

798
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: What was it forty four times? A little gimmicky And

799
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Speaker 3: again I'm not blasting it is just the reality. So

800
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Speaker 3: let me play it one more time and then we'll

801
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Speaker 3: get Rachel's reaction. Here's Bam out of bio after Lucas

802
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Speaker 3: scored sixty. Tell me is this a dig or is

803
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: he being serious?

804
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Speaker 7: I know its like the being that mode. As people

805
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 7: can see, it is not easy to get eighty.

806
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Speaker 3: So Rachel, is he joking or serious?

807
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Speaker 4: No, he's not joking.

808
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: He's serious.

809
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 4: Yes, wow, he doesn't think it's easy to gety. And

810
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: by the way, He's right. It's not easy.

811
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Speaker 3: He's not right.

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Speaker 5: Like one thing I always say about these when people

813
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 5: are saying, oh, you know he did it this way,

814
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 5: he did it that way.

815
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Speaker 4: If it was easy, everyone would do it, you know how.

816
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 5: You know it's hard. People don't do it, So it

817
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 5: is hard no matter how he got it. However, I

818
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Speaker 5: also so think that Luka Dancic watched Bam get that

819
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Speaker 5: eighty three. And remember Luca got seventy three in a

820
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 5: game when he was in Dallas, that's right, right, which

821
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Speaker 5: was sort of the closest anyone had felt like was

822
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Speaker 5: to Kobe's eighty one. So here's a guy who not

823
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 5: only breaks Kobe's mark, but blast past Luca. And I'm

824
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Speaker 5: sure Luca was sitting there going, oh, well, if I

825
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Speaker 5: had the intentional fouly, I could have gotten eighty three

826
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 5: that night, that sort of thing. So I don't know

827
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Speaker 5: how much Luca was thinking as he went out on

828
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Speaker 5: the court last night. I'll show everybody, you know, scoring points.

829
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Speaker 4: I mean, who knows.

830
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Speaker 5: You know, I didn't have a personal heart to hurt

831
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Speaker 5: with him before he took the court, but I can

832
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 5: see that little you know, one fsmon ship on both.

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Speaker 4: Sides, and by the way, we want that, right.

834
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Speaker 5: That's fun, that's it's good to have guys being like, oh,

835
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Speaker 5: look at me, well look at me, you know that

836
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 5: sort of thing.

837
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Speaker 3: So I'm trying to look up the box score. It

838
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Speaker 3: looks like Luca's seventy three came against the Atlanta Hawks

839
00:38:54,000 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 3: in a close game. But I was watching the Lakers

840
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: game last night and Luca wasn't on pace for sixty

841
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: at halftime. It wasn't even close. Now, but the third

842
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: quarter they're down bad. Luca goes off yep, And so

843
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 3: that's totally different than Bam. Again, eighty three is really

844
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 3: hard to get. But Luca when he beat the when

845
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: he beat the Atlanta Hawks, twenty five of thirty three,

846
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: fifteen of sixteen on free throws, hit eight threes. They

847
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: needed all of them. It was a close game in

848
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. Like again, Bam, I know it's eighty three.

849
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 3: Let's say Luca plays the Wizards next week. Does he

850
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: say I'm gonna go for ninety? Does he try? I'm

851
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: just asking. The Wizards are horrific. Sorry, they have no guards,

852
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 3: they have no anything.

853
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the Wizards. We're talking about Bama Luca,

854
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 4: come on.

855
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, but if Luca players, do you think he

856
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 3: could go for do you, I mean, are other guys

857
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: around the league says eighty three? I could drop eighty four?

858
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I think with the Lakers, the

859
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 5: way their offense working right now, we've been talking about

860
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 5: three guys trying to decide what the distribution is on

861
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 5: how they share things. I don't think Luca is going

862
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 5: for a vanity score because it's just not in keeping

863
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 5: with the way the Lakers are doing things right now.

864
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 5: Right now, So that idea that he'd be like, oh,

865
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Speaker 5: I can shoot this and show let me show you

866
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 5: you know, that sort of thing, I don't see that

867
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 5: happening for the rest of this season with the way

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Speaker 5: the team is in sort of the role they're on

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Speaker 5: right now. But do I think Luca is eventually capable

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Speaker 5: of scoring more than eighty three in a game?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 5: With the way scoring is in today's NBA, I mean,

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Speaker 5: some of these scores are just preposterous, right, I mean,

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Speaker 5: I remember covering the NBA when eighty something to eighty

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Speaker 5: something it was like a regular night, And so scoring

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Speaker 5: keeps going up more players get better. At three, Luca

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Speaker 5: was obviously already fantastic at the three. You know, could

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Speaker 5: he break that one day?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I can see that, of course, you know.

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Speaker 3: All right, so let's get my MVP guys on the

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Speaker 3: screen real quick. Because Rachel actually has a vote puts

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Speaker 3: a lot of thought. I'm sure she I do questions

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Speaker 3: her sell from her family, crunches all the numbers. So

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Speaker 3: how does the voting ballago? Is it?

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Speaker 4: You vote for five, you vote, and you rank them.

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Speaker 5: So sometimes a guy who's getting a lot of second

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Speaker 5: place votes, and if there's a split on first place

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Speaker 5: votes could actually hop up to first because.

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Speaker 4: Of those second place votes. I think the thing that

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Speaker 4: confuses people.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to use last year's race as an example.

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Speaker 5: It was really close down to the wire on Shay

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Speaker 5: versus Jokich, remember that, Yeah, And it was really split

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Speaker 5: among people who were doing the prognosticating, saying, oh, I

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Speaker 5: think it should be him.

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Speaker 4: I think it should be him. It's so close. It's

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Speaker 4: so close.

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Speaker 5: I was sitting there, as you said, looking at all

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Speaker 5: the numbers, doing all the situations, and it was so close.

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Speaker 5: And the thing that really helped make my decision, and

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Speaker 5: I know a lot of my fellow voters helped make

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Speaker 5: their decision was Thunder had the best record in the

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Speaker 5: leak and Shay led them to that, and sometimes winning

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Speaker 5: if it certainly it's not always the most important thing,

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Speaker 5: but it certainly isn't a tiebreaker, and it is a

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Speaker 5: very important thing. So when the vote actually were tallied,

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Speaker 5: even though it was so close for a lot of people,

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Speaker 5: and I'm waiting to the last second to make my decision,

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Speaker 5: I am picking SGA last year, and so did so

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Speaker 5: many other people. Okay, it was close in people's minds,

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Speaker 5: but the vote was like seventy third.

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Speaker 3: Seventy thirty. So last year SGA played seventy six games.

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Speaker 3: He's on pace to play closer to sixty eight injuries

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Speaker 3: this year. Injuries does that factor in? By the way,

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Speaker 3: his numbers are down a little from last year in

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Speaker 3: terms of points per game is down, assists is up

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Speaker 3: a tick, rebounds are down. Steals her down. So he's

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Speaker 3: not having the great year he had last year.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's playing very well.

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Speaker 3: He's playing very well, not as good as he all right,

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Speaker 3: So coming off next, fanatic CEO Michael Rubin stops by

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Speaker 3: the show to talk flag football,