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Speaker 1: What's that at the Bed's spooky?

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Speaker 2: Hey juky, I'm preally sure it's dead.

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Speaker 1: It's coming this way. Wait a minute, he I, I

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Speaker 1: Nanda's plase. Hey boo, It's me Roz and welcome to

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Speaker 1: Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to

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Speaker 1: people that I like about the baron normal. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I got to have such a fun time with Pat Reagan,

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Speaker 1: who is a comedian, such a funny stand up comedian.

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Speaker 1: You got to see him live if you ever have

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Speaker 1: the chance. Also hosts the podcast Seek Treatment, which I

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Speaker 1: recently got to be on. And he he also writes

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Speaker 1: on the TV show Hacks on HBO, which is just

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Speaker 1: the best. I don't get me started. I love that

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Speaker 1: show so so much. And also, this is an interesting

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Speaker 1: episode because he doesn't necessarily have a ghost story, but

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Speaker 1: he's got a lot to talk about. He's one of

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Speaker 1: these people that I think can make anything funny and

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Speaker 1: interesting and made it really easy on me. So let's

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Speaker 1: just go into the episode. You'll hear exactly what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about. I hope you have a nice little laugh

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Speaker 1: or two. And oh also, I just wanted to remind

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Speaker 1: on ghosted. Okay, here we go. It's time for me

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Speaker 1: and Pat Reagan.

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Speaker 2: Pat Reagan, Hello, Hi, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm good. It's like one of those mornings

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Speaker 2: I woke up, I wake up earlier, earlier, I wake

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Speaker 2: up at six thirty, thank you, and then I go

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Speaker 2: to the gym at seventieteen. But then it is just

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Speaker 2: the kind of thing where you know and like your

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Speaker 1: But then it's like no, but I can imagine, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And then you haven't quite accomplished anything. You've just moved

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Speaker 2: so then you're so lazy. It's like this, it's been

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Speaker 1: I thought it's supposed to make you energize.

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Speaker 2: It does make me energized. It does make me energize.

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Speaker 2: But like, if I don't get home, I like get

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Speaker 2: I'm thirty five years old. Why am I having nine

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Speaker 1: Send me a voice mama some time, I will, I

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Speaker 1: have to. What do you think about like the paranormal?

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Speaker 1: Does it concern you in any way?

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Speaker 2: It doesn't concern me. But like I don't fear Like

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Speaker 1: See, That's how I always feel like I've got so

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Speaker 1: but wait, so when you talk about a ghost trying

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Speaker 2: Plane, right, and is that what they want? But don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well those are usually demons, which are different.

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Speaker 2: So possession isn't ghosts. Well you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's all nebulous to me. It's all I don't understand

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Speaker 2: How they're like they have nothing to do with me,

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Speaker 2: that's fine, right. So it's like if they're nice, I'm like, okay, whatever,

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Speaker 1: Ghost and then some of you died this way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I just think, like I've gotten into so many

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, what does that look like?

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Speaker 1: Well? There is a clip that just hit about fifteen

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Speaker 2: By a ghost. Are you serious?

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Speaker 2: It goes to so lucky you're alive.

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Speaker 2: The earings are coming off, The earrings are coming off.

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Speaker 2: Now, does everybody become a ghost or just some people

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Speaker 1: I mean, I try to be careful with what I think. Well, no,

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Speaker 2: I think it can't be everybody's a ghost, because like

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Speaker 1: It seems that way. Yeah, and then you add demons

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and when I've gleaned film Buffy, those art facts

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Speaker 1: To answer your question, though, I think the most common

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Speaker 2: While I'm trying to oh, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: And you think that I'm going to just keep talking.

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Speaker 2: No, you know, I'm in a bulk. I totally was

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Speaker 1: Well, going back to physical bodies and spiritual bodies, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of reasons, but I personally think from

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Speaker 1: it's not very common that they come back and stick around.

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Speaker 1: It usually seems like some somebody that's like I still

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Speaker 2: That's so not me. I so won't be a ghost.

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Speaker 2: I don't feel about me on Earth. But if anything,

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Speaker 2: credit card. It's already lost, but I'm down both my

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Speaker 2: But anyways, my point is, since I was like nine,

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Speaker 1: Oh the searchers sort of a ghost that's always looking

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Speaker 2: But it would just be my journey. I wouldn't really

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Speaker 2: very big whatever. But the woman was like, I know

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00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,120
Speaker 2: a gay guy in your life called Pat called Patrick,

435
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 2: which publicly I go by Pat, but my whole like

436
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 2: child to night, my family, I worked colls me Patrick,

437
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,239
Speaker 2: and my internal monologue, I called myself Patrick. And then

438
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,679
Speaker 2: she said all this stuff about me to Catherine that

439
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 2: was like quite true. And she knew stuff about like

440
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,919
Speaker 2: my family, like family secrets that like nobody knows. It

441
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 2: was crazy. So that actually made me really believe. And

442
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 2: then she told me that I was on the edge

443
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 2: of darkness and I had to turn towards the light.

444
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 2: And I was on the edge of darkness and I

445
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 2: did have a turn towards flight. Ah, she told Catherine

446
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 2: to tell me that, yeah.

447
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 1: Were you going to turn towards the light? Before she

448
00:20:59,359 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 1: said that.

449
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,400
Speaker 2: It was a time I was in like a very

450
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 2: deep depression, and she was just like, he's so bogged

451
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 2: down in the darkness. He's so bogged down. He has

452
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 2: to cut the shit, tell him to cut the shit.

453
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 2: Like he has to stop, he has to stop. And

454
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 2: it was just a time I was like really being

455
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 2: cruel to myself in like lots of ways, and I

456
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 2: was like very you know, I do think I have

457
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 2: like OCD and I get very self punitive and like

458
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 2: strange ritualistic ways, and like I was really in it

459
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 2: like during that time period, and I didn't obviously listen.

460
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 2: I still like, I'm better now, but she isn't what

461
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 2: broke me out of it. But it was crazy that

462
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 2: she knew about me and then she just there's one

463
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 2: specific fact she said to Catherine about something in my

464
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 2: family that is so specific and so never been spoken

465
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 2: about publicly. It's like so crazy. So like I'm even

466
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: getting chose thinking about it. So it's wild.

467
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I love those moments, So like, yeah, I'm

468
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 1: still like chasing that. I've been to so many psychics

469
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 1: and I feel like I've been able to convince myself

470
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: a little bit of like, oh my god, I think

471
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: what they were talking about was this one thing. But

472
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: like I still haven't had that moment where it's like,

473
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: how did you know that?

474
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a close I had of that moment.

475
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 2: But it does feel like annoying because it's very hard

476
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 2: to get an appointment with her, so like she has

477
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 2: no interest in seeing me or whatever.

478
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 1: You know what. I have found, the better the psychic,

479
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: the worse at communicating. Yeah, I cannot get some of

480
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: these psychics to reply to me ever. Yeah, and you know,

481
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,479
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna blame anyone. They're busy, but yeah, I

482
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 1: have reached out to these famous psychics to come on

483
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: this podcast for oh, I don't know, five years and

484
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: haven't gotten any reply.

485
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 2: Well, I do like famous psychics, Like I don't know.

486
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 2: I guess like a true psychic doesn't seek fame, do

487
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

488
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think that definitely. When you say that

489
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: this woman's like I don't want clients, like leave me alone.

490
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: I just have this gift like that, I'm like, hell.

491
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Catherine has to ben Mo, her friend who lives

492
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 2: like kind of nearby, who has to bring this woman

493
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: cash is the only way she'll do it.

494
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: That is real. Yeah, that's a real psychic. But I

495
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: will say I have talked to many people on the

496
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: show that have been on Tyler Henry and oh really

497
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: yeah and Long Island Medium, and I have heard nothing

498
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: but like, holy shit, I don't know how they knew this. Yeah,

499
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: so I don't know I believe.

500
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: In them, but something about the way he like looks

501
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 2: off to the side. He's also like I one time

502
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: watched like a full marathon and it was like fully

503
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 2: pilled out before I got sober, and I just like

504
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: was like nodding off watching Tyler Henry And it was

505
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 2: funny because it was like I think he was like

506
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: seventeen at the time, and he would have all these

507
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: like nineties stars and he'd be like, oh my god,

508
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 2: this is so crazy. I have no idea who you are,

509
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,959
Speaker 2: but my mom loves you, and you can tell all

510
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: the people's hearts like breaking. He talked of the living

511
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: Corey Corey Feldman. Oh, yeah, who's the Cory that's alive?

512
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: And who's the Corey Corey Feltman's alive?

513
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: So he goes to Corey Felman. He's like, I have

514
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: no idea you are, but he's like, there's another Quarry

515
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: coming through to me. And Corey Folman's like oh my god.

516
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: And he's like, I don't know who is this person?

517
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: Who is this person? In Coryphon like he's the other

518
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: Qurey were the Corries. But it was just a heartbreaking

519
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: to watch Chory Folman had to explain to this twin

520
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 2: that they were the Quarries, Like it just was heartbreaking.

521
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, he loves he loves to not know whose celebrities are,

522
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 1: which is which is a move that living in LA

523
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: you'll see a lot where people totally will be like, oh,

524
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 1: I've never heard of you, what did you do? Who

525
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: are you? I don't know who you are? Yeah, Okay,

526
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: well I know you do, but whatever.

527
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then in that same marathon, I was watching

528
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: Carol rad Zuwel, the rehasife of New York who, like

529
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 2: her big storyline kind of is that she lost She's

530
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: a widow and she lost her husband like tragically to

531
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,959
Speaker 2: cancer and she wrote this memoir about it, and like

532
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: he was like a Kennedy, a cousin. He was a

533
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: cousin of the Kennedy's, the husband that died, has that died.

534
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 2: But then what highlight it was actually who came through

535
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: wasn't her husband, It was Carolyn Keny which was so chic. Wow.

536
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I've also heard that those sessions are like

537
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: obviously they cut a lot and it's like way longer.

538
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 1: But he like really like goes into like his trance

539
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: and scribbles and yeah, breeds heavy and sweats and whatever,

540
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: like he like gets into it. But Okay, I want

541
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: to know what you think of like bigfoots, like what

542
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 1: we call cryptid creatures, these monsters of all. You know,

543
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: you'll hear about these all over the place, that there's

544
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: these monsters.

545
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, like I don't have a firm stance.

546
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: It's like my immediate gut reaction is like I don't

547
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: believe in them. But like I just think we've been

548
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: around the block as a human race, and like we've

549
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: seen most of the shit. Like it would be so

550
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 2: surprising to me if you're like, oh my god, there's

551
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: this huge monster we've just never fully noticed. We've just

552
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: kind of noticed them and we could never quite find them.

553
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 2: That would be so surprising to me. But you know,

554
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. I grew up on Long Island. There's

555
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: not lots of woods, Like it would be so hard

556
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: for a bigfoot to kind of evade capture on the island,

557
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,959
Speaker 2: but I'm sure there's like areas of Appalachia or wherever

558
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: where they could really have their privacy. But even the

559
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: fact that we're talking about it and still no one

560
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: could find it, and if anyone, and you gotta always

561
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: follow the money. If someone found Bigfoot, it was like

562
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: we got him. Hey, we got him.

563
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: Talk about reality show, like they would make.

564
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 2: So much money off of finding big FROs. So it's

565
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: like the fact that no one has it means he's

566
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: not real or she well, but because I know he's

567
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: a woman or they are they, I mean, we don't know.

568
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: I thought it was you, Yes, it was me.

569
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,239
Speaker 1: I always like to tell people that a lot of

570
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: people believe that the famous Bigfoot footage of the sixties

571
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: was a woman because she's got curves and tittys, right.

572
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: But part of the fun and why it becomes part

573
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: of this conversation is like, could these be aliens? Could

574
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: these be like these mythical creatures that somehow disappear? Could

575
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: these be the ghosts of old species of creatures that

576
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: are still wandering because obviously, yeah, we can't catch them,

577
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: so like they must be something more magical.

578
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 2: Could you entertain that I could entertain it, and I

579
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: do believe in aliens. I do believe one day they

580
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: will come here and attack us, just because like that

581
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: would just make sense what was like, you know, imperialism

582
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: being such a celebrated concept. But I do think, like

583
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: I don't think we have the technology to find them.

584
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: I think whoever finds the technology for ust will attack

585
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 2: the other one. Like if we all of a sudden

586
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: like really advance and we can go like to farther

587
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 2: away planets, Like I'm sure the powers up people be like,

588
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 2: let's just randomly attack this planet for no reason. And

589
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 2: I bet the aliens are just like us in that way.

590
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like it is a fact that there's unexplained

591
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: phenomenal in the skies that now we don't know where

592
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: they're from necessarily, but I think it seems like the

593
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 1: aliens already can come here. Yeah, and they have an

594
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: attacked us, which is why I'm like, they're cool.

595
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it could be that, Like I mean,

596
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: how sodould be a fair flying around to all different

597
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: solar systems and they're like Earth is not it? They're like,

598
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: we know that one we have, we don't have an

599
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: interest in that one. They're kind of flying by to

600
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: like a cooler planet that you would love to attack

601
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: that one and take that one over, like I could

602
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: believe that.

603
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's wrong with us?

604
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

605
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't seem like a vacation destination to come

606
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: to America.

607
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: Exactly or too earth. Yeah. I don't know how much

608
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: the tourism economy would boom if aliens could come. I

609
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: think we're kind of a flyover state.

610
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: We're a flyover planet. Yeah. You know. Another segment we

611
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: have on this show involves looking at haunted dolls. Can

612
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: I show you one?

613
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: Please?

614
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: It's time for the dolls are living? Okay, So here's

615
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: what I do. I go to eBay dot com, a

616
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: website I know you're familiar with.

617
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: Of course I.

618
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: Can I talk about please? So you introduce me to

619
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: nicotine spray, which is not a sponsor of the show,

620
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: but it's something you can pretty much only find on eBay.

621
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: And it's only me to New Zealand, I believe, and

622
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: I have to send it here?

623
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: Is that what it is? So maybe Catherine Psychic could

624
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: have the hook up.

625
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: I know this is a very New Zealand Forward podcast episode.

626
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: I love New Zealand. Men. If any are listening, you know,

627
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: to find me.

628
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: There's a really hot New Zealand runner who won. He

629
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: is like primarily a steeplechaser now, but he wons the

630
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: wet Chaser Steeplechaser. It's this event that's like not quite

631
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: a marquee event, but like it's three thousand meters long,

632
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: so it's like a little shorter than two miles, So

633
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: it's like seven and a half laps around the track,

634
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: but every lap there is five barriers that are kind

635
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: of like hurdles but more sturdy, and then after one

636
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: of the hurdles there's a water pit you have to

637
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: jump over. So it's this kind of like strange event

638
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: where it's like a critic might say, if someone want

639
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: to be rude to a steeplechase runner, they might say, well, well,

640
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: this is an event where if you're not quite good

641
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: enough to make it in a five k, but you

642
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: can jump over a barrier as well, then you could

643
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: be a steeplechaser. But anyways, he's a steeple chaser. He ran.

644
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: You're very into running if people didn't know those about.

645
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: You, And this is all to say indoors. He won

646
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: the mile at World Championships and he's from New Zealand

647
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: and he's so hot it makes me feel crazy. Jeordy

648
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: be Mesh.

649
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: But what is a steeple I just think of here's

650
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: the church, here's the steeples, it's from horse culture. It

651
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: just sounds like such a fetish, like, you know, he's

652
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: a steeple chaser.

653
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: I know steeple chase guys I always think are really

654
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: hot because they have to have like really strong hamstrings,

655
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: if you catch my meaning, if.

656
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Well, what I do is

657
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: I go to eBay dot com. And by the way, people,

658
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: nicotine is bad.

659
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: It's just it's so bad.

660
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: It's not good. And I'm joan endorsed nicotine. But now

661
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: I found a new way to use it thanks to

662
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: eBay and pat. So what I do is I go

663
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: to eBay dot com. And here's the thing that a

664
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: lot of people might not know. There are thousands of

665
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: listings for dolls that are allegedly haunted, and every single

666
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: week we feature a different doll. And this week we've

667
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: got one for you that's a little spicy, if you

668
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: can take it. It's a little it's a little sexy.

669
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: It's currently for sale for one hundred and seventy five dollars.

670
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: It does not have a name. Jiha, Can you show

671
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: us that doll please?

672
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

673
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: Okay, So it is definitely a Captain Jack Sparrow doll

674
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: action figure something for sure. They don't really acknowledge that

675
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: in this listing, but it is very much one.

676
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: They don't say that, they won't say that's so funny, yeah,

677
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: because it's truly not.

678
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: It's very much Captain Jack Sparrow. This is what we

679
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: call an incubus. Are you familiar with that term?

680
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: Just the band?

681
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a band, but it's a male sex demon

682
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: is inside of this Oh my god, Captain Jack Sparrow doll.

683
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: And can I guess that the haunting is that he's

684
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: always his arm always lowers down to be as though

685
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: it's jerking.

686
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: I mean he does have an open like fist circle hand,

687
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: you know the motion, and it is in front of

688
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: his crotch. I'm not going to deny that. But these

689
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: all come with a biography. And let me tell you

690
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: a little bit about this doll. Okay, this vessel okay,

691
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: is a doll, thank you? Is a male sex demon

692
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: or an incubus, and will come to his owner when

693
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: called to do so, or often comes in whimsical dreams

694
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: when placed next to your bed. His personality is very

695
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: friendly and playful. He loves an adventure and doing fun

696
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: things with his keeper. He will come to you in

697
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: dreams night after night where you two share fun adventures

698
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: of his making. He is housed in this attractive, muscular

699
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: male pirate doll, which personifies him and his attributes. His

700
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: preference is women. His name and instructions on calling him

701
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: are included. View the picks, especially look into his eyes

702
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: to see if you connect with his sultry, cool, suave, playful,

703
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: cheeky energy as often it can be seen and felt

704
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: through photos, especially to the right person. Is he calling

705
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: you okay?

706
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: I will say something that's going on with his eyes

707
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: where I do feel something?

708
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: Ah?

709
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: And do you feel a gaze?

710
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: Well one hundred and seventy five dollars, I will say

711
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: his preference is women. I have the way that that's

712
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: written to me. It just means that's what he prefers.

713
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, he definitely I think is probably a hole,

714
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: a whole type of guy.

715
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just get a wig, go three year

716
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: old UCB stuff, find a wig.

717
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like I guess they're saying, like you

718
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: put him near your bed and then you have dreams

719
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: that he has sucks with you.

720
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, I think you got it.

721
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, in so many words.

722
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 1: I think you got it. So one hundred and seventy

723
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: five dollars that's.

724
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: Quite a bit. So do people make a lot of

725
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: money off of selling these dolls?

726
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: It would seem. I mean, there's so many of them.

727
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: I certainly give these people a platform and just kind

728
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: of keep this thing going.

729
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: Oh, they should absolutely give you a cut.

730
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: Of course they should. Or I should just get into

731
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: this business and start selling you know, Captain Jack Sparrowdell's.

732
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: What do you think? I mean? Part of me is

733
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: like this is some guy somewhere who has all these

734
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: action figures. It's just also fun to me, like him,

735
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: this doll is standing in front of this backdrop, like

736
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: just writing these stories like and making a bunch of money, like.

737
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: You know what me And like I will say, the

738
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: cropping of this picture, like it's cropped so tightly in

739
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: a way that like, yeah, you only do that if

740
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: you're trying to hide something. And so I'm very curious

741
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: what totally is being kept out of this picture.

742
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: I do feel his eyes, but they're looking kind of

743
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: away from me over my shoulder of course, right, but

744
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: I'm quite drawn to it.

745
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: Well, one hundred and seventy five dollars bad.

746
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: I'm not going to buy it only because, like I'm

747
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: not going to chase any more straight boys. But I

748
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: do think he's cute.

749
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is cute. Well, anyway, can I play you

750
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: some ghost voices?

751
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's time for EVP.

752
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: Or ev Please. Have you ever heard the term EVP executive?

753
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean totally, but yeah, it can also mean, I

754
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: mean more professionally electronic voice phenomena okay, okay, which is

755
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: what they call anytime a ghost is speaking and recorded.

756
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: So you know, people can record these from any recording

757
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: device really, but ghost hunter types will go out looking

758
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: for ghosts and they'll record them speaking and then they

759
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: put it on YouTube. And what I do is I

760
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: have two of them for you today. Okay, I'm going

761
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: to play them one at a time. I want you

762
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: to tell me what you hear, and then I'll give

763
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: you an ABCD one of them being the correct answer

764
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: of what the ghost hunter believes it's saying. Okay, this

765
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: first one is from a YouTube account called Philly ghost Hunt,

766
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: and it is at the Holy Cross Cemetery in Yeden, Pennsylvania.

767
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: What is this ghost saying?

768
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 2: There's like a yelling, a screaming.

769
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so there's definitely like a condor or some kind

770
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: of bird squawking in the background.

771
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought the bird squawking was the ghost talking.

772
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: Now that's not the ghost talking. There's another voice. Okay, wait,

773
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: let me hear it again.

774
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: I can't hear a voice, I know, can you?

775
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: Well, I can when you tell me that there's a

776
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: voice and this is what it said. Oh but okay,

777
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: so let me give you some options and then we'll

778
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: listen again. Did they think it was a oh yes, sis,

779
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: B that man is sick, C I want to sing?

780
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: Or D yes I am sis. Maybe it was a

781
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: cis gender person that wanted to know. Okay, it's one

782
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: of those. Let me put it. So it's the dad.

783
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: You've wit one more time. I have really bad hearing.

784
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: I can't hear anything.

785
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: No, it's not no, it's not you. It's not you.

786
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: This is a hard one. Well, do you have a

787
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: guess out of those?

788
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: I think that man is sick.

789
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: That is what they thought had said. Now that I

790
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: know it says that man is sick, I can like

791
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: kind of hear it.

792
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: Okay, try one more time, that man is sick.

793
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: Now one more time. Okay, here we go.

794
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: I don't hear anything.

795
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: It's probably a bird. Well they were at the grave

796
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: site of the serial killer. Uh h h Holmes. So

797
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: that's what they why they believed the ghosts said that

798
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: man is sick.

799
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: But were they sis?

800
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: But just so you know, I am sis. Okay, here's

801
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: another one. This is from sc p R a I

802
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: on YouTube, also known as the South Carolina Paranormal Research

803
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: and Investigations. This was at Heath Springs, which is in

804
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: South Carolina. What is it saying?

805
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: Okay, that's not funny.

806
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of boom boom banging, but yeah,

807
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: there is a voice.

808
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: I thought I said, that's not funny.

809
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it does sound a lot like that.

810
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: At one of my comedy shows. There's one Pat Reagan's

811
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: Dynasty Typewriter hour long comedy shows.

812
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a review. Okay, Well here's some options.

813
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: Is it A?

814
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

815
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 1: So fucking what? B you're so fun c that's so funny?

816
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: Huh?

817
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: Or d hey, what are we? How maybe it's kind

818
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: of like what are we? You and I to each other? Okay,

819
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: let's play it again. I mean, it's totally that's so funny.

820
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 2: That's so funny, or for some reason I'm hearing that's

821
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: not funny.

822
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: But well see, but that's what I hear every time

823
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 1: someone tells me that's not funny. I'm like, that's so funny. Oh,

824
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: thank you.

825
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: I guess that's so funny.

826
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely that's and funny. But we don't know

827
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: how exactly this ghost feels.

828
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: About this comedy routine that it is watching routine.

829
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: I love that. All right, let's do one more thing.

830
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: Since we're getting to know you and all your beliefs

831
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: and thoughts on all these things, I'm just gonna give

832
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 1: you a couple more little topics, and I'm just wondering

833
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: if you have any thoughts or maybe a story or

834
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: or anything. We'll just see what happens. Okay, what do

835
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: you think of like deja vu or synchronicities, like things

836
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: that happen. Do you read into it? Are you like,

837
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's a sign.

838
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: I do have quite a relationship with deja vu? Where

839
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: I get it a lot, and I think about it

840
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 2: a lot, and I'm like, what does this mean? I honestly,

841
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: what I usually think about it is that it speaks

842
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: about the nonlinear nature of time that we are experiencing linearly.

843
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: You know, everything's happening all at once. There is no

844
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: linear time. But like we our brains only can experience

845
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: time in a linear way, so we think one thing

846
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: happens after the other thing and all this stuff, but

847
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 2: actually everything's always happening, and there's some kind of slight

848
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 2: little hiccup in that when all this kind of brains

849
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: realizing like wait, no, that's not true, Like this is

850
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: all happening at once, you know what I mean? Like

851
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: that kind of thing is where I usually go with

852
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: deja vu.

853
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: This is the worst question ever to ask someone on

854
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: the spot. But can you think of any time, like

855
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: a specific time that this has happened to you?

856
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: Deju is a classic one of those things where it's

857
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: like you never remember when it was right. But I

858
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: do have like profound moments of it. I'm sure I'll

859
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: think of them like right after we finished, but I

860
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 2: can't think of one right now.

861
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: No, It's okay, what do you think of curses. Do

862
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: you think that that's like a thing people can get cursed,

863
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: put a curse on someone that cursed.

864
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 2: I don't you know. When I was in like fourth grade,

865
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: I went to this small Catholic elementary school where it

866
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: was like all nuns teaching and stuff or not on nuns,

867
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: but there were nuns teaching, and there was like a

868
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: more alt girl in our grade, and she got her

869
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: hands on like a book of Witchka, and so she

870
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 2: started kind of a coven with like the four oldest

871
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: girls in my grade. There was this little corner, like

872
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: this kind of pocket of fence where it was like

873
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: a little corner you couldn't really see, and that's where

874
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: they would kind of meet up at recess to do

875
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 2: their spells and curses. So I would sit around it

876
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: and just listen to what they were doing. It's just

877
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 2: out of curiosity because I found it quite interesting. And

878
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: they were always doing, you know, these curses on these boys,

879
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: and I did think to myself, like I very like

880
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: pay attention and notice if these things come true, and

881
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: they never did, so I was kind of like, well,

882
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 2: maybe it's not real. But they were only like ten,

883
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: so maybe they weren't.

884
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: Doing it right, Yeah, that could be.

885
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: And sometimes the spells would call for I even noticed

886
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: at the moment, like I would hear them sitting like,

887
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: well we don't have that, like let's just use this

888
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: berry from this tree, and I was like, well that

889
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: could scrub the whole it curs. So that was not

890
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 2: only like attempt out a curse I've ever witnessed. I don't.

891
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: I don't think I believe in curses.

892
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: Do you think that they put a curse on you

893
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: to make you lose things?

894
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: Maybe because that Chris would really have that would be

895
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: truly proof that crises are real?

896
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: Did they ever get in trouble?

897
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: So it was a huge scandal. I bet what happened

898
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: was teachers got wind. It was actually quite literary because

899
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: like teachers got wind that there was a group of

900
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: girls in the fifth grade doing what and it was

901
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: either for their fourth actually it might have been fully

902
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: seventh grade. I don't remember, because the school was the

903
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: first grade to eighth grade, so they all kind of

904
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: melt together. But what I do remember is that like

905
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: it was taken very seriously because it was like a

906
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 2: Catholic school and it was taken as like an affront

907
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 2: to Jesus Christ, of course, and so girls started getting

908
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: called down to the office to be questioned, and it

909
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: was like literally like an active witch hunt. We all

910
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: went I had to go down to the gym and

911
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: like stand on this line, and the principal like paced

912
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: up and down the line and was like, whoever is

913
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: doing this is like spinning in the face of God

914
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: and of Jesus Christ. And it was like so serious.

915
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: And then they found the witches and they got suspended,

916
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: but like there was four of them and then but

917
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: it was a kind of a five person friend group.

918
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: But one of the girls like wasn't one of the witches.

919
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: Just because she was friends, she literally got like associated

920
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 2: with them, and she even got suspended and they ought

921
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: to pack their bags and she was sobbing crying, and

922
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: I just always remember like she was like leaving the

923
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: room with her backpack and she turned into screamed at

924
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: the whole class and even the teacher.

925
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: And she was like, I am not a witch.

926
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: But it was so funny. It was so funny because

927
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: it was so real.

928
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: She was just an ally to the way, Now, have

929
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: you kept up with any of them?

930
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: No, actually one of them, like I wasn't in office,

931
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: actually the falsely accused witch. We both worked briefly at

932
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: True TV in like two thousand and fourteen, and like

933
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: I would see her in the coffee room.

934
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: Was she practicing?

935
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: I think she was practicing.

936
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: No, she was gathered around the coffee pot like it was.

937
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: Like a cauldron, double double toilet in trouble.

938
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: Okay, that was actually an unexpected, amazing story. Let's just

939
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: do one more. What do you think of past lives.

940
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: I do believe in past lives, and that's also sometimes

941
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: where I go with deja vu. But I mainly believe

942
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: in past lives because, like I do generally meet generally women,

943
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: like I'll meet certain women and it just feels like

944
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 2: I've known them forever in this way where I'm like,

945
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: certainly there's this instant familiarity, like is so different than

946
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 2: when I'm meeting a new person. And so for that reason,

947
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: I always believe those people I knew in like past

948
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: lives and stuff.

949
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: See, but what I've gathered from the first time I

950
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: met you, I was like, oh, we're just jumping right in. Yeah,

951
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: you were just like let's just talk about everything.

952
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, but maybe we were past lives. I do have

953
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: well because I can be so socially uncomfortable and I

954
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: can be so hesitant with new people, except for sometimes

955
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: I'm not and I always talk up to like some

956
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: kind of past life knowledge.

957
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: Interesting. But do you have any idea of what you

958
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: were or anything?

959
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: No, I'm almost certain I was like female and like

960
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: an eccentric in some way, and probably like that. I

961
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: don't know more than that. I've never gone to like

962
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: a place and gotten told. But I think or like

963
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: literally like a woman in like a small provincial town

964
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 2: who is very into gossip, I could see myself having

965
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: been Oh.

966
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: Fun, Yeah, just imagine like before the Internet and stuff like,

967
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: but like way back when, like gossip probably really would

968
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: get out of hand because it's like we got nothing.

969
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: We don't even have magazines. Hey guess what?

970
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: And and Jane Austin laughed all the way to the

971
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: bank with it.

972
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: Thank you. Someone needed to say that. Yeah, well, pat

973
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: this has been lovely. You definitely have an open mind

974
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: to all this and and it's fun to ponder with you.

975
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,120
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985
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