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Speaker 1: What's up? This is Michael rapp Where you are now

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Speaker 1: listening to the I Am Rappaport Stereo podcast. On today's podcast,

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Speaker 1: Me Michael Rappaport, the Gringoman Dingo acknowledges a major funk

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Speaker 1: up that I made. Lebron and the Cavaliers have tied

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Speaker 1: up the Boston series. Steph Curry is back. Me and

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Speaker 1: G Moody are gonna discuss the royal wedding. Biggie Small's

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Speaker 1: birthday just passed. We're celebrating Biggie and we have special guest,

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Speaker 1: Ben Bowler. Ben Bohler is like a Korean forest coumpies

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Speaker 1: of celebrity jeweler. He's made jewelry for everybody from Michael

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Speaker 1: Jackson to Asap, for the Tyler of the Creator and

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Speaker 1: everybody in between. He's got crazy ass stories and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna tell us how to not get fucked when buying

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Speaker 1: diamonds and so much more real life Hollywood stories from

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Speaker 1: Ben my the fucking Baller. But first, me and G.

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Speaker 1: Moody are gonna set the table. Miles Jordan's let me

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Speaker 1: get something funky, all right. My name is Michael Rapports.

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Speaker 1: This is the I Am Wrap Reports Stereo podcast. Before

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Speaker 1: I get G. Moody, whose last name rhymes with duty

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Speaker 1: on the phone, I have to acknowledge a mistake. So

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Speaker 1: within the last eight hours, okay, me and G Moody

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Speaker 1: recorded a podcast. Okay. Now I have said this vehement

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Speaker 1: lee for years. First rule of the Iron Rapports Stereo

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Speaker 1: podcast is no fact checking. Everybody knows that. The first

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Speaker 1: rule of the Iron wrap Reports Stereo podcast. There's no

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Speaker 1: fact checking. Well, have to make an amendment to that rule. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Unlike the Constitution, we can make amendments. It's it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a uh flexible malleable document. The I am wrapp

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Speaker 1: Reports Stereo Podcast constitution can be amended, and I am

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Speaker 1: making an amendment to that rule right now. The first

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Speaker 1: rule of the Iron rapp Reports Stereo Podcast before anything

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Speaker 1: and everything is to always plug your fucking microphone in.

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Speaker 1: I didn't do that. Me and G Moody recorded passionately,

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Speaker 1: vehemently for forty five plus minutes about six hours ago, Exhaustingly.

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Speaker 1: G Moody plugged his mic in. I plugged G Moody's

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Speaker 1: mike's in. Okay, we have the best sound in the business.

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Speaker 1: The Iron Rapports Stereo podcast is an award winning worldwide phenomenon,

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Speaker 1: the home the home of the most disruptive podcast in

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Speaker 1: the world. But me, the gringo man Dingo. Okay, the

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Speaker 1: jakelmat of podcasting forgot to plug in his own mike.

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Speaker 1: So I was talking shitty plus minutes into the air,

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Speaker 1: into the air, and it was beautiful ship talk. We

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Speaker 1: were talking about all sorts of things, all sorts of things.

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Speaker 1: Sent it over to the Dust Brothers. Tell it works.

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Speaker 1: It's a process. It's a little bit of a technical process.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could just wake up on a megaphone

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Speaker 1: and and and all the listeners and fans New Ones,

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Speaker 1: old Ones, Day one listeners could just hear me and

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Speaker 1: g Moody. But doesn't work that way. It's a technical process.

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Speaker 1: We recorded Miles Jordan's the Dust Brothers. They do their

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Speaker 1: and then we we we pass it out to the fans. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: this time I fucked up. I'm acknowledging that I fucked up.

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Speaker 1: I apologize for fucking up, and I will do my

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Speaker 1: best to never funk up again. But I had to

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Speaker 1: acknowledge this funk up and say. Rule number one is

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Speaker 1: moody Yo? Yeah, so I I just I just made

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Speaker 1: a official change to rules and regulations of the Iron

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Speaker 1: Miles Davis and then I am gonna and I'm explain

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Speaker 1: am shooting another episode of the TBS show The Guest Book.

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Speaker 1: It involves singing and dancing, and I'm not talking about

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Speaker 1: the singing and dancing that you may be accustomed to

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Speaker 1: jump to this. Lebron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers have

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Speaker 1: tied up the Boston Celtic series. It is now two

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Speaker 1: games to two. Yeah. I don't know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen here, but Boston fucked up. No, they

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Speaker 1: didn't sunk up. They got beat. This is a better team.

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Speaker 1: it in. This is what's gonna happen. I don't agree

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Speaker 1: then and then we will take it from there. Your

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Speaker 1: your predictions as of recent have been uh less than stellar.

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Speaker 1: I you know, it's sort of like if you have

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Speaker 1: not that cold. It's supposed to be a little colder,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't have that taste. Your predictions have been

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Speaker 1: like a lukewarm Coca cola. As of late, my predictions

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Speaker 1: have been have been on point to two of them

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Speaker 1: out of three years. I'm not making predictions every episode.

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Speaker 1: You're the guy eisode. I got the balls to do that.

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Speaker 1: I stand out there. You switch teams now the Celtics

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Speaker 1: serior team. Yeah, your Celtics. Because anybody Lebra plays a kid,

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Speaker 1: you don't want them to win. Therefore he wins, so

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Speaker 1: do you look like it asked, and what's gonna happen? Um?

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Speaker 1: The Golden State Warriors, uh are now winning the series

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Speaker 1: much we love Steph Curry. They had him dead and buried.

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Speaker 1: Guys were saying, uh, maybe the Warriors shouldn't start him. Uh,

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Speaker 1: sorts of bullshit because one of the best shooters in

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Speaker 1: on Steph Curry? You fox you? So what does he do?

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Speaker 1: In game three? He comes back and does the Old

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Speaker 1: Ship and shimmy. What's the old Ship? And jimmy? The

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Speaker 1: and he's shimmy, shimmy, Shimmy's on you. You fuck yeah,

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Speaker 1: Steph Man. Steph Curry is fantastic. Uh, you said one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest shooters. He is the greatest shooter and

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Speaker 1: that on he got on the other team, James Harden

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Speaker 1: with the scraggly beard, he's no m v P. It's

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Speaker 1: clear that he isn't the m v P. UH. The

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Speaker 1: offense is terrible, Dan Tony, It's terrible. You got this

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Speaker 1: hope they run him off the court. You win one game,

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Speaker 1: you should be happy, Chris Paul back to the drawing board.

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Speaker 1: And and the thing about the James Harden, who who

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Speaker 1: he'll he'll win the regular season m v P. But

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Speaker 1: that it's discussed before the season even starts, like like

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Speaker 1: a great regular season. But they're they're not beating Golden State. UM.

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Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors, they get celebrated. That should be the

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Speaker 1: But but also think Dan Antonio celebrates it because they

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Speaker 1: So it's not like it was like, oh, we're bury Chrismaul.

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Speaker 1: the same thing they did to Stuff. But it looked

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Speaker 1: the ball. And it's different like Lebron. Those teammates know,

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Speaker 1: you know, if I'm open, that ship is coming to me,

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Speaker 1: no matter what, if it's the greatest player. His personality

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Speaker 1: is like, yo, I'm sharing. I'm nice than all y'all,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sharing this ship so you can feel good

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Speaker 1: the only way to win big games like that's the

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Speaker 1: only way to win consistently is to do that. Even

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Speaker 1: with him getting the forty points, it's not like he's

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Speaker 1: ball dominant in terms of I'm gonna score, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: One question, Um, so, who would you say thus far

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Speaker 1: is the m v P of these playoffs? No, I

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Speaker 1: Lebron James, Oh, thank you? But let me ask you.

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Speaker 1: a question? Go right? Um? Since you since you like

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Speaker 1: this entire year? You know, you got motherfucker's that won't

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Speaker 1: actress or a decent person as far as I know. Uh,

421
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Speaker 1: my man, Prince Harry, who I want to say, I

422
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: like him too. He keeps it rough, rugged and raw.

423
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: He keeps it grimy in the streets. My man's got

424
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: off protruding bold spot. He's got all the means to

425
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: fix that ship or just shave the entire thing off.

426
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: He don't give a fuck. He's about that life, Harry

427
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: ball Game, about that life. He doesn't give a fun.

428
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: His his brother, what's his brother's name, Charlie, What his

429
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: name is? What it is, Harry? And what that's their crew?

430
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: And this guy came out there looking like Katie, looking

431
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: like yo yo. It's a wedding, obviously, he doesn't care.

432
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 1: He has an empire, he got a lot of racks.

433
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: He don't care. Like how he came out. I like

434
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: how he came out. I like how he said. Yo.

435
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: You may think this is all all beautiful, but for me,

436
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna comb my hair. I don't give a

437
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: fun boom. This is it, this is what it is.

438
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: I like how he how he gets there. Yo. I

439
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: I funk with Harry, and I funk with his brother.

440
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: What's his brother's name is Charlie wap right? Yeah? Why

441
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: it's what nappy Harry and why Yo? I have no

442
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: problem with them. I just don't give a funk about

443
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: your wedding, Duke. They this ship went on for like

444
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: three hours. They got preachers in there, they got churches

445
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: and choirs and horse and Carrie or horse and buggies

446
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: and all that. Duke, I don't give funk about any

447
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: of that. I wish you luck. Funk with you, Harry.

448
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I respect that he comes out grime.

449
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: He could get a wig, he could get somebody to

450
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: fill his ship, and he doesn't care. I think it's

451
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: an inspiration of men. He don't care. He got the

452
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: red the red hair with his ship is messy. Yeah,

453
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: and think about it, You're married into my kingdom. Like,

454
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: why should I look all? You're the one coming into

455
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: our empire. It's about us. He's saying that. By the

456
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: way he carries himself. He's like, yo, I don't give

457
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: a funk about the way I look. I'm a prince.

458
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm a prince. My brother is a prince. You know

459
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: what's fucked up? What is the queen gonna when? When

460
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: is she gonna go away? The father Prince Charles is

461
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: that his name? Or prince? What's the father's name? Prince Charles,

462
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: the one who is married to Diane. Yeah, yeah, that's

463
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: He's been waiting his entire life for his mom, the croak,

464
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: and she just won't go. He's like, she just won't go.

465
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: His whole life is like, oh, when she goes, I'm

466
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: gonna be the king. I'm gonna be the king. She's

467
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: she's bout it, bout it, She's got about twenty more years.

468
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: She's like, Yo, I'm not just turning this ship over

469
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: to you, duke. I'm not just giving up the crown

470
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: and all that. His whole life has been groomed to

471
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 1: be the king, and his mom's is looking like, yo,

472
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: none of y'all, I'm not I'm not just turning over

473
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: the jewels and all that ship. So Megan Mark. I

474
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: wish you luck, Harry, what a funk with you guys,

475
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: But yo, all it to do, you're not getting any

476
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: of that love for me. Duke. Yeah, I didn't watch it,

477
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: and I wish him well, but I didn't watch this. Now,

478
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: I didn't watch it. I didn't follow the coverage. I

479
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: didn't watch the pregame. I didn't watch the post game.

480
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the recap. I don't give a funk

481
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: about any of that. Yeah, any of that. Ship. Um,

482
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: the Great Biggie Small celebrated a birthday. What can be

483
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: said about Biggie consummate Brooklyn m C from Bedford Steiverson

484
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: Brooklyn h A lot of people, um, you know, talk

485
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: about Biggie on on on his birthday. And I was

486
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: trying to think of, uh, his top five favorite songs

487
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: of mine and after doing the math and and this

488
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: is this is like picking children, because he's got so

489
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: many good songs that resonate. Um. But on Biggie's uh

490
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: birthday week, you know you always got to celebrate him

491
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: twenty five years old man, Damn Yeah at Tupac same ages.

492
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he realized his dream and then within that

493
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: dream you get executed. It's it's just terrible, but at

494
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: least we have his work, his art to appreciate and

495
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: him being from b K right down crazy for me,

496
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: so of course he was one of the great and

497
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: it's just sad that he's gone from where you grew up.

498
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: How far away is is where Biggie's from, Like fifteen

499
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes away? Crazy, so influential on popular culture and

500
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: obviously a game changer in the art form that is

501
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: hip hop. I had to break down my my top

502
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: five Biggie songs as party in bullshit, the what story

503
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: to tell? Then I had to say the Sky's the

504
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: Limit and who Shot You? As my top five songs?

505
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: I left out plenty of songs and and and other

506
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: other people can make the list. I was listening to

507
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: all the great mixes by all the DJs out there.

508
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: Um who who put out that fire? Uh for Biggie's birthday?

509
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: What would have been his birthday? Uh? On May twenty one? Um,

510
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: there's a there's a feminist out there who who's trying

511
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: to ban Father's Day? She says, it's it's offensive to

512
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: the two parent homes. What if it's it's at home

513
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: with two mothers. Uh, somebody was trying to do the

514
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: same thing on Mother's Day, and I want to say,

515
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: fuck you. You're you're not banning Father's Day. My father's

516
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: birthday is June. Disco Dave Rapp report will be eighty

517
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: five on June. I believe the twenty one is Father's

518
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: Day this year. And if you think your little hashtag

519
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: bullshit online is gonna stop me from celebrating Disco Dave's

520
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 1: birthday slash father Day, you could, you could eat three dicks.

521
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: My father's eighty five years old. Hey fucking five. He

522
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: walks the streets in New York every fucking day. You

523
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: think when is gonna celebrate him? You motherfucker you. That's

524
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: this Go fucking Dave. The next thing, you know, they're

525
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: gonna try to because because you're not skeeting, we shouldn't

526
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: celebrate Valentine's Day. Women shouldn't get flowers, men shouldn't get chocolates,

527
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: and vice versa and versa visa because you're not skeeting.

528
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: That's next. Yo. I thought it was no gender. I

529
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: thought it was no such thing as male and female.

530
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: Make your fucking mind up right. If there's no gender, yo,

531
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: Father's day, Mother's Why Why don't you pick your own day?

532
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: Why do you have to go after the days that

533
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: are delineated for a male which is us, me, you,

534
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: and female Mother's Day? But in your fucking sick world,

535
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: there is no genders. There's no male and female. The

536
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: creator didn't give me a male sex organ and a

537
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: woman has a female This is clear. What what it's

538
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: supposed to be? Get the funk out of here with

539
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: that dumb ship. All right, listen, we are we recovered,

540
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: We rebounded ce Iron Rapport Stereo Podcast. Uh. I don't

541
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: know what more we could do. Moody Listen. We had

542
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: a little situation. Uh we we we made the best

543
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 1: of it. We're gonna be banging on them all week,

544
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: banging on their fucking heads like Dominique Wilkins. Uh. Coming

545
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: up next, special guest, Ben Bowler. Listen. This guy's got

546
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: stories upon stories. He's like Korean uh Zelig or Forrest Gump. Okay,

547
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 1: He's made jewelry from Michael Jackson. He's got crazy Michael

548
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: Jackson stories. He's got crazy asap fur stories. He's got

549
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: crazy stories about making Julie for everybody in the last

550
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Speaker 1: like fifteen twenty years in in in pop music, in

551
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: hip hop, He's gonna explain how to not get fucked

552
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: if you do, in fact get hitched and you want

553
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: to buy your girlfriend, your boyfriend or significant other a diamond.

554
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna help try to walk you through not getting

555
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: fucked because you get screwed so easily out there. He's

556
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 1: a jeweler, he's a ship talker. He's a big fan

557
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Speaker 1: of the Iron Wrap Reports Stereo podcast. He knows the

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Speaker 1: language in the vernacular. Coming up next, Ben Bowler on

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Speaker 1: All right, Ben Bowlers in the house in the building,

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00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: Ben Baller made the motherfucking chain. I say, like the Koreans,

568
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: like the Korean Forrest Gump. Because you've had a crazy life.

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Speaker 1: Iron Rapports stereo podcast, Ben Baller in the building, so

570
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: I know who you are and a lot of people

571
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: know your So if people said, who the fuck is

572
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: Ben Bahler, what would you say? You know? I had

573
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: this struggle. Um, yesterday, on Mother's Day, I go on

574
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: Twitter and my longtime friend twenty five years Alchemist, hip

575
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: hop producer extraordinaire. Me and him grew up together. So

576
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: Alan is tweeting about ship like. He goes to his

577
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: Q and A and he says, anyone asked me, you know, free, free,

578
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: feel free to ask me anything you want and I'm

579
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: gonna reply, and I just catch I guess maybe it

580
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: could have been the seventh question the question and someone says, yo,

581
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: what do you get your brakes out? In your records?

582
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: Are you still shop? Are you still digging the crates?

583
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: And before Alan ever did any of that, I was

584
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: a famous DJ, you know, especially in l A I was.

585
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: I was a very big DJ. I did all the

586
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: clubs before DJ. Am did you know me? And we're

587
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: in the same crew. Shout out to Am and homicide

588
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: Rest in peace, Adam Goldstein And Um, I had to

589
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: be a dick because sometimes I need that like that verification,

590
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, that that just that insecurity, and I was like, hey, Alan,

591
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: I wonder, how does it feel digging the crates? I

592
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: really wonder, you know, like, what's it like digging for

593
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: records and finding records in Ohio and Philadelphia? And it

594
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: must be really cool because I would never know what

595
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: that's like. And he goes, fuck you, you bitter old

596
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: yang motherfucker. You know, he just started going off, and

597
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, people don't know that I

598
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: was in hip hop, like for real, for real, you know,

599
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: not mumble rapping his bullshit, and more so not even

600
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: on the professional side, but also on the talent side,

601
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, I was like every element

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00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: of hip hop, you know, you think about the four

603
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: elements or than three elements of hip hop, and it's like,

604
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: you got breaking, you got dancing, you got graffiti, you

605
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: got em see, you got djank So for element or whatever,

606
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: and I did pretty much all him except rap. So

607
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: when people ask me, hey, what do you are, and

608
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: people say, hey, listen, you know, if you're twenty one

609
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: years old, you only know me as a jeweler. You

610
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: don't know me as anything else, do you know? So

611
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: when people were like, why is Ben Baller hosting the

612
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: twenty year anniversary of Rockefeller Records of the Reasonable Doubt album.

613
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: And they're like, because Ben was the vice president A

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Speaker 1: and R and he was part of the people out

615
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: signed jay Z. You know, like I thought he was

616
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 1: a jeweler. I'm like, yeah, dude, that was for thirteen years,

617
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: you know, but before that, I was in a music business.

618
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: So it's hard to say who Ben Baller is. And

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Speaker 1: the first thing I say is I'm a father, I'm

620
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Speaker 1: a husband and an entrepreneur. But I can't ever not

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Speaker 1: say even though the music thing was good and I

622
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: put work in, I could never take the fact away

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Speaker 1: that I was I am a jeweler and it pays

624
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: the bills, and I have to embrace the fact that

625
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Speaker 1: it's put me on the map now on a whole

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Speaker 1: different level. So all right, so I want to get

627
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Speaker 1: to the Priority Records and the Reasonable Doubt. So jewelry,

628
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: So you're a jeweler, Like you like, what what does

629
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: that mean? Because one of the things that one of

630
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: the things that I was gonna ask you, because jewel

631
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: jewelry is such a it's like it's a it's a

632
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: broad it's a fucking broad title, but also like the

633
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: consumer is such a vulnerable sucker in that thing. Like

634
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: I mean, like it is every time I've bought jewelry

635
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: and it's only for my wife, it's like you're like

636
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 1: fucking you know, like they could tell you anything there,

637
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, you they take out what's at the loop

638
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: that I think they're like, oh, you see this, you

639
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: see that, and like I know, I'm like, I know,

640
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: you're bullshit me. The only thing that I'm like, I'm

641
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: asking is like, just don't bullshit me too much? Like

642
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: how much of a sucker sport is being a jeweler?

643
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: Like how much fake ship is out is out there?

644
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: Forget for rappers, forget high end shit, forget like when

645
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: you're spending hundreds of thousand. I'm just talking about, like

646
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: if somebody who was like I just bought my wife

647
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: a beauty a full engage ring, And how many people

648
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: are getting taken advantage of? Seriously? So seriously, Let's say,

649
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: for instance, one of the journeys I embarked on after

650
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: like my first few years of becoming a jeweler was

651
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: starting to go to you know, if you're in the

652
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: if you're in the in the in the in the

653
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: clothing game and everything else. You've been to agenda or

654
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: magic trade show and now there's complex con you go

655
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: to these shows. So the jewelry has the same thing,

656
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: except they have a few few small shows and they

657
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: have the biggest one, which is J C. K. By

658
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: the way, in two thousands seventeen, I one Jeweler of

659
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: the Year. It was over three h thousand jewelers. You know, nominated.

660
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: You can't nominate yourself. And bro, we're talking about real

661
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: people you know out there who are killing when you

662
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: think you're big, like oh, Ben Bala to the chain

663
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: and you go over there and you see dudes who

664
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: are selling twenty million dollar diamond and you're like, Okay,

665
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here. Ben, You're sucking punk.

666
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: You're you're nobody to me. And it's true. But at

667
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: the same time, what I've done from where I'm from

668
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: is you know, it's I'm proud of it, and it's

669
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: a worldwide thing. It is it's that's the thing. It's global.

670
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: So this this event is in Vegas and then it's

671
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: in China, but stay focused on people. I am so going.

672
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: I decided to like go to like let's say, for instance,

673
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: I was going to St. Louis, right, and you go

674
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: to the mall and I'm like, that's where you're getting

675
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: funed getting So I go to a Daniels Jewelers in there,

676
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: which is a chain. They have them in Fox Hills Mall.

677
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: They have them all over the place, right, And I

678
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: go there and I was like, what's the biggest diamond

679
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: you carrying here? Like once the biggest diamond you want?

680
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I hate people to answer like that.

681
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm a fucking salesman. I'm a jeweler. I'm also a hustler,

682
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: So I hate when you try to hustle me like

683
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm going in there as a consumer. They don't know

684
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: who I am yet you're just asking just to see

685
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: someone like can I see the best timon you have

686
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: in this store? Now? Mind you, I don't know what

687
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: the economic statistics are for St. Louis, you know, in

688
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: the thousand seven. So I go in there and the

689
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: lady brings me out a she brings me a s

690
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: I one h color diamond. Now, I'm not gonna lie

691
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: to you. It's it's a it's a decent diamond. Okay.

692
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: So when I say decent, remember there's Lamborghini Diamonds, Bentley Diamonds,

693
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: Rolls Royce Diamonds, and this is a C class diamond. Okay,

694
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: so this diamond was a one point to five Carrott diamond.

695
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's again. I might be a

696
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: little jaded, but this is a a smaller diamond, right,

697
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,959
Speaker 1: but this is a big diamond for certain people who

698
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: make you know, grand a year or whatever it may be.

699
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: So I said, okay, how much is this diamond? And

700
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: she tells me, I can give it to you for

701
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: seven thousand five dollars. Now I could probably at that time,

702
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: I could probably buy that diamond for with certificates and

703
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: everything that diamond was worth. Maybe. Okay, So this is that.

704
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: That's that's this. This is not This is one where

705
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: it gets bad. Where it gets bad is they have

706
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: a note like how you don't fact check. They don't,

707
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: they don't credit check. They give you, they give you

708
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: a finance program. They want you to finance this ring

709
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: because a lot of people in St. Louis might not

710
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: have eight grand. They put seven thousand and seven Tho

711
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: it's not eight thousand, you know, So you go and

712
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: get this ring. Yeah, it's a trick for everything. So

713
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: then they say, hey, listen, do you have tour dollars?

714
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: Put tour dollars down, you know, blah blah whatever. Spending

715
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: the rest of your life buying this eight thousand dollar

716
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: ring that listen, by the time you're done paying this

717
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: ring off, you've spent on this this ring. Now, that's

718
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: just one story. It gets way worse. But but if

719
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: if someone said to you, Ben, how do I know

720
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm not getting funcked with my diamond? Like? Where do

721
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: you take it? How do you check it? The loop thing?

722
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you have to be trained. Like

723
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: I looked at that thing. I can't see like, you know,

724
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: to see it through the you know, I bought my

725
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: wife a thing and we're looking at in these I

726
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: mean I can see it just I can see it immediately,

727
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: and you can tell from just looking at it. Yeah,

728
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: because I have a trained die. But I mean, even

729
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: going on Twitter, how could a regular motherfucker not get fucked?

730
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: Is there a way not to get fucked? I mean, okay,

731
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: you have to go somewhere do a little bit of research.

732
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: You know, there's a website called blue mail dot com.

733
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: I even hate giving people this right there. But they're

734
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: kind of like the all Right, if it's fucking cheaper

735
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: than us, then you're beyond good. If it's more than us,

736
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: it's you're still good. But if it's like that's like

737
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: the scale. And I hate using them because sometimes what

738
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: happens at Blue Nil is they don't stock their own diamonds,

739
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: so they take people's diamonds in right, and it's like

740
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: they're holding a bunch of diamonds like flight club and

741
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: so they fucked the market up. And if you have

742
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: any idea, which I'm so, this is such a crazy coincidence.

743
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: Do you know what a Beckett guide is? No, Okay,

744
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: the Beckett guide is for it for I mean for

745
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: for baseball cards. You check the Beckett right, so you

746
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: know the Beckett is the guide for um, how much

747
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: your Jordan's rookie card is worth, how much your King

748
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: Griffey rookie card is worth? With so the diamonds have

749
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: the same guide. What's it called? What is it called? Oh,

750
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 1: it's a report. So the rap rap sheet is that's

751
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: the that's the name. The rap sheet tells you what

752
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: a wholesale cost on the diamond is the only thing

753
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: that fucked up is that Okay, they're they're the standard

754
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: universal scale. So if you're in India, if you're in Dubai,

755
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: if you're in um I'm thinking anything that's not in

756
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: North America, if you're in Mexico, wherever else, you use

757
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: the rapport. That's the standard guide now people using Blue Nile.

758
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: The funked up part about it is when I'm buying

759
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: diamond wholesale through a dealer, and let's say I find

760
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: some Hasidic Jews in New York City and I buy

761
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: a diamond. Sometimes they're giving me a price that's literally

762
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: a few hundred dollars better than Blue Now. And that's

763
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: why I hate Blue Now, because I don't want to

764
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: go through another fucking business. I'm going through a dealer,

765
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: and that's where the game is now, and they're they're

766
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: leveling the playing field now for me, where I get

767
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: my money is that my hands touched it? Do you

768
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: know what I'm trying to say? You know when tiff

769
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: Any charges you know, Okay, for instance, I'll give you

770
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: a perfect example. My stores opening up the best Our

771
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: next month, right. I tried to get in there for

772
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: five years. For a while, there was this company that

773
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: uses a turquoise little box that's famous for hundreds of

774
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: hundreds of years. And they said, oh, that Benballer guy, No,

775
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: we can't have that because it's unfair competition clause. And

776
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: they pull out some crazy language and a legal thing,

777
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: and pretty much I was selling a diamond for sixty

778
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: grand that they sell for a hundred twenty. And I'm like,

779
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: you think I'm getting over, holy fucking ship, the same

780
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: exact thing. Yeah, these and I'm talking about grading scales now,

781
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: g I A the whole nine certificates and everything, but

782
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: they appraise their thing a little differently, which is bullshit.

783
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: You know, when you get robbed, you have homewarn, insurance

784
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: and anything else. You have to claim it at a

785
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: certain point, you know, at a certain price, whatever it

786
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: may be. But when you get it from them, I

787
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: guess they give you a little more if you have

788
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: a receipt or whatever. But what I'm getting at is,

789
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: if you're going out there, just try to find somebody reputable,

790
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: try to gauge your work or what you have, or

791
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: or you're buying what you're interested in with maybe blue Now,

792
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: don't go to eBay because it's so much fake shit.

793
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: But and don't believe the salesperson, whatever the funk you

794
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: do not when you're going up there telling the truth,

795
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: just be like fun. You have to you have to.

796
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: You have to fact check. You have to diligently fact check.

797
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: So so before I get to the pieces and all

798
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: the fucking crazy jewelry stories, let me just ask you this,

799
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: are our diamonds a good investment? Like if you buy

800
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: a ring, do you buy your you buy your wife

801
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: a ring, if and and and you something happens with

802
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 1: your wife. It's in general it depending like if you're buying,

803
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: if you buy a good one, you buy like you

804
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: spend dollars on the best dollar ring, like it's just

805
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: a great ring. Then then you're just basically putting your

806
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: money somewhere else. That's all it is. Yeah, and you're good.

807
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: It's not gonna necessarily go up, but it's it shouldn't

808
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: go down. It shouldn't go down, and you'll definitely eventually, yeah,

809
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,479
Speaker 1: it'll go up here and there. Like someone who spent

810
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: twenty grand, like in two thousand and six, their ring

811
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: might be thirty end now right depending what it is

812
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: right now. If you were to spend a million on

813
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: some stones, like a rare diamond. You know you could

814
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: sunk around and flip it for two point five because

815
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: you know, you realize tk about the regular person. Yeah, okay,

816
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: the regular person you shouldn't be you. You could get

817
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: your wife a diamond, which is you know that that

818
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,959
Speaker 1: that's fine. But if you're going out. I tell people

819
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: this all the time, and I know so you don't

820
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: want to want to get into this whole thing, but

821
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: I have to because I was a and R and

822
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: because I was giving people advances, and this is when

823
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: it was good. I hate to see an eighteen year

824
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: old kid get his rap contract and he's like, yo,

825
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: all right, your advances too on the grand All right, now,

826
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: mind you, this is supposed to last you until you

827
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: finished the first half of the album, and then we

828
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: give you another and then when you turn the album

829
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: and then you get the rest of your money. Right,

830
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: so you need to get an apartment or you need

831
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: a how is you can do this? This? And this?

832
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: What does he do? Ben's Beamer watch, Rolex chain the

833
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: whole night and no money for anything else? Right, And

834
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: these fucking guys go broke so pretty much pretty much

835
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: now that these three sixty deals and you don't own

836
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 1: your publishing, and you know, you don't get your merch.

837
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: I've never heard that in my entire life. When people

838
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: are telling out of dinner last night with like three

839
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: multi platinum a list enormous stars, and one of them

840
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: was like, why did I get it? Fight? And he's like,

841
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: I owned all my publishing. And when he said that,

842
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: I was so fucking blown away because you know, besides

843
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: like tire of the creator, like nobody has their publishing

844
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: and I mean no one has, like you know, their

845
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: merch and these guys are murdering and for labels to

846
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: ask for the merch because the game is so fucked

847
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: up now with streaming and you can't sell records, and

848
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: it's just want the merchandise. Yeah, they're taking, they're taking,

849
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: they're taking touring dude. It's crazy. So going on when

850
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: a young dude comes to me and he's like, y'all

851
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: want to get a chain. My cousin, my business partner,

852
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: who is very just he he hates that I do this.

853
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't want anybody coming back and trying to sell

854
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: the chain back to me or try to do this

855
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: that in the third and go through the headache. And

856
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: I was like, listen, bro if Our, you man, are

857
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: you sure you want to drop sixty grand on the

858
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: chain right now? And he goes, yeah, yeah, I like, listen, Brom,

859
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you something, like I know a

860
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: lot of dudes, and I bring up like Smusher Parker's name,

861
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: like listen, Smush Parker's kind of me by all this

862
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: crazy jewelry at the Smush Kalad and blah blah, and

863
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: I have no idea what dude is now, and who knows.

864
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know, man, you never know. You know,

865
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm just asking you if you got it. It's really nothing,

866
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Floyd got it? You know

867
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like someone like even Ai, they're like, oh,

868
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: I went broke. You know what, I'll be real with

869
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: you during that time when they're saying Iverson was broke,

870
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: he was wearing a million dollar fucking chain on his neck.

871
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: And this is Las Vegas NBA All Star oh seven

872
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: or eight or whatever year it was, And it's like

873
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: some people got some people don't, do you know, people

874
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: don't know how to spend their money right, And there's

875
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: other there's other ways. Yes, if you funk around and

876
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: buy a bunch of change, you can work around and

877
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: go broke. So I give them the disclaimer because I

878
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: don't want to be held responsible for you. You don't

879
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: want to coming back to and it sells shipped back

880
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: to your return it in any of that ship. Of

881
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: every jeweler I know will never give him that disclaimer.

882
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: They just it's just boom boom. And of jewelers are Jewish,

883
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: even though half my family is Jewish. You know, wait,

884
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: are you have Korean half Jewish? What it is is

885
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: my mom's three sisters married into Jewish families. So then

886
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: all my cousins are Jewish because they were born Jewish

887
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: mothers converted. But they're you know, Polish jew Israeli Jew,

888
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so it's like my

889
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: cousins all went to do they went to Eshiva, they

890
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: went to Templars, they went to Temple Manual. My other

891
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: cousins graduate from Stevens Wise, you know. So I grew

892
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: up that my sister married jew converted, my nieces are Jewish,

893
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: but like half my family is Jewish. I went to

894
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills fucking High School. Bro I went to school

895
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: with sixt pcent. I'm sorry seventy Jewish people. You know,

896
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: then you've got the Persian Jews, you got the It's

897
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: just like battles all over the place. So I just

898
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: grew up around on all my life, you know. But

899
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 1: I respect it because half my family is and people

900
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: think I did it to help my jewelry sales, and no,

901
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, like you know, I'm not going to

902
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: fucking say they're just for that, you know what I'm saying, Like,

903
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: come on, all right, Ben Boller did the chain. If

904
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: I said to you your five most proud pieces that

905
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: you made for celebs, what would they be? Now you've

906
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 1: done fucking I mean I Drake Nas Tyler, the Creators,

907
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: Snooped or everybody. You just said Smush Parker, which asap

908
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: for push Justin Bieber, Michael Jackson. You made fucking jewelry

909
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: for Michael Jackson. You made jewelry for President Barack Obama

910
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 1: or his crew. So if I said your top five

911
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: pieces that you made, who would they be? And do

912
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: you physically make them? Like are you ye? So you're

913
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: like doing the thing like are you burning the stuff?

914
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: So for instance, okay, let's let's let's start with that first,

915
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: and we're gonna go into the top five. There's there's

916
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: jewelers who are a jeweler because by trade they sell

917
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: in trade diamonds and they look at they look at um,

918
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: you know, they look at stones that you know, they

919
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: work in jewelry stores. So technically, by trade your jeweler.

920
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: Then there's a master jeweler who someone can weld, laser weld,

921
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: set stones, repair, they're a goldsmith part time everything else.

922
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different tiles. So jeweler I can

923
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: do all the above. But Wolfgang Puck is not going

924
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: to be throwing a pizza every single fucking day and

925
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: it's in his shop. He's got the people to do it.

926
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: Dr Dre is not going to be playing piano on

927
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: every single beat. He produced it though, Right, you don't

928
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: see anybdy else's credits maybe except on publishing and who

929
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: the fox is gonna see? Like, oh see brotus a

930
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: young Oh who are these guys after? Do you get

931
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say to you? So I have

932
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: a team, love them, respect him to death. But yeah,

933
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: I orchestrate and oversee everything that I touched, especially if

934
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: I say but We have jewelers in my you know,

935
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: I have I have a team of jewelers and you

936
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: know master jewelers, bench jewelers that are inside my crew

937
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: that make things for my brand, IF and Co. But

938
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: for me personally when it comes to the big dogs,

939
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: I gotta touch this ship, do you feel me? I

940
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: gotta touch every aspect. I was the final policy. You know,

941
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: you start off with the wax cut and this, but

942
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 1: I'm for this. Yeah. But but my and my cousin

943
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: taught me everything. Now everyone under me had to go

944
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: to school because like you know, like I don't know.

945
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Kobe didn't go to college, you know. And

946
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to you know what I'm saying, Like

947
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: I just all that ship. It doesn't seem like it's

948
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: like it seems like a skill. It is, but there's

949
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: like just out of the welding park and shoot like welding.

950
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: Like it's like like there's a lot of Korean people

951
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: from Korea that just they learned that trade through like

952
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: like literally just watching something. It's in there, it's in

953
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: their family. I mean, okay, no offense. How many Mexican

954
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: people in l A went to school for construction? These

955
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: motherfucker's are building five story and hundred story buildings. Whatever.

956
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. So going on top five. Um,

957
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: I did a list for Complex a while back, but

958
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: it was the best I thought as far as my pieces.

959
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: Oh you did a list of best of other just pieces,

960
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: the top one hip hop jewelry pieces of all time.

961
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And they want me to

962
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: do a new one because it's been like six or

963
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 1: seven years. I mean, it's gonna get tough now because

964
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: some of these ship, these kids are spending their money.

965
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: It is some goofy. I don't want to stay. I

966
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: want to focus because these guys are wearing some ship.

967
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: Let's go off the top. It's tough because the first

968
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 1: two are like, they mean so much to me because

969
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: of I go with the backstory, I go with the execution,

970
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: I go with everything that I put into this. So

971
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: let's start off with John Mayor. John Mayor's Big Lebowski.

972
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: The Dude piece was so stupid because one anyone who

973
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: is a film buff like me or you are, you

974
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: realize the Corn Brothers, that movie, that the cult that

975
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: goes on with that, there's movie theaters across the country

976
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: right now that still play Lebowski on Friday Night and

977
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 1: people go there and yeah and that and everything, and

978
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: like you know, John Mayor dude like like you know,

979
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: he's not like he's a watch kind of store. He

980
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: owns million dollar watches at least minimum, right, dude is

981
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: is so I can't explain to you. He's like the celebrity.

982
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: You can't hate him, does a matter how good lucking

983
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: everything else. Just one of the nicest guys I know.

984
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: And it's really he's a personal friend of mine. When

985
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: he hit me up for his fourtieth birthday president and

986
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: he gave me the idea. He just sends me a

987
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: picture of the dude in his car and he's like,

988
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: this is what I want. I'm like, no, get the

989
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: funk out of here. And building it with him in

990
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: the process and going through like three different molds and

991
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: going through everything and it was like the effort that

992
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: went in there was like this is fucking insane. Then

993
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: we executed the dude. I found a Japanese scale Lebowski

994
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: doll from Tokyo, right from Tokyo, get the doll, We

995
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: make the mold, and then we like start going, okay,

996
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: do we make the hair diamonds? Do we just make

997
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: it like lined up? Do we use enamel for the glass?

998
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: We've finally, you know, we released what it is, and

999
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: it came it came out amazing that people started fucking

1000
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 1: hitting me up, like Varna if you know the sunglass

1001
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: company he was wearing Varna's in the movie. They hit

1002
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: me up like, hey, we want to send you in

1003
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: John marrisunglasses, you know, because we appreciate what you did.

1004
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: And that's like, I don't wanna go too deep into it,

1005
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: but that that's definitely up number two now something like

1006
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: that now because I don't know if it's been documented.

1007
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: The prices I don't like because I ever since I

1008
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 1: don't like to blow people ship up because I don't

1009
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: care about the money. Um is there versions of that?

1010
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: Did you get asked to do versions? Cheaper versions, more

1011
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,959
Speaker 1: retained because he probably spent money that the people don't

1012
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: put that love Lebowski, that would love. So a lot

1013
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: of people hit me up for like, hey, just get

1014
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: a silver version not gold, because you look at let's

1015
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: just say, for instance, for argument's sake, the piece was

1016
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: six figures. I can't go into deeper. Yeah, I don't want.

1017
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't want you. Certain celebrities signed I had signed,

1018
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: like easy Friends yea. For instance, I gotta sign an

1019
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: NDA every time boom. But like um, like rappers, they

1020
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: never care about nd as. They want everyone to know

1021
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: how much they spent. Right, So let's just say six figures.

1022
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: Let's say the peace costs on hundred thousand. If it

1023
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: was made in silver, it would cost like eight thousand.

1024
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: That's how different. It's crazy because but it would still

1025
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: be eight thousand, but not the same thing. But let's

1026
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: say now, let's say, for instance, I made it in China,

1027
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 1: and I made it out of stainless steel and gold

1028
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: plated it and fucking don't one China and whatever. Then

1029
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: that piece, if you're only making one off, I'm making

1030
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand of them on assembly line, totally different

1031
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: because I can afford to make him. You know how

1032
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: to do all that ship? Yeah, I mean I know

1033
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: how to put all that together, Yeah, for sure. Like

1034
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: we've done, like you know, there's big companies like diamond

1035
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 1: suppliers zoom Is, and I've done like you know, Ben

1036
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: Baller chains that were like nine nine bucks that time.

1037
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: People like, hey, listen, it only costs you twenty bucks.

1038
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, there's marketing. You know, we gotta fun.

1039
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: Never wants every you know, it's like motherfucker's wanted. Like

1040
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: you can't be Ben Bowler without bowling, you know what

1041
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: I mean. It's a business, you know, the business like

1042
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: it's not you know, Ben, being Ben Bowler is is

1043
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: a business, you know what I mean? Being the green comin. Thinko,

1044
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: this is a full time fucking job. All right, to

1045
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: go ahead? So so the next four So so number two,

1046
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: i'd say, little oozies. He has two pieces of mine

1047
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: that are just out of this earth. But let's talk

1048
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: about okay, As far as jewelers, there's very few that

1049
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: are famous, right, Jacob definitely one. And I idolized him

1050
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: when he got put in jail. He stole in jail. No,

1051
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: he got out when he got put in jail, though,

1052
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: I slid right in and like was like boom that

1053
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: I had one moment because there was three other guys

1054
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: that were, you know, big, and then Jacob's cousins are huge.

1055
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: They're still in the game right now. And I was like, listen,

1056
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: there's no West Coast jeweler. You know what I'm saying.

1057
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: Everything's in New York kind of like like you know,

1058
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: like West Coast rapples and his respect respect, you know

1059
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: what I mean, for a long time whatever. So same

1060
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: with jewelry. How many jewelers are famous and become a personality,

1061
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: had their own reality show on you know how you

1062
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: know you name it. You know, I'm the most followed

1063
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: jeweler in the world, right and like ha ha, I

1064
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: mean it's the truth, you know. And like with Uzy,

1065
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: we made a movie on his first chain. We made

1066
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: the movie like for real, Like we we shut the

1067
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: game down with his oozy piece and we like mimic

1068
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: Farrell's Gucci link chain, all the fruity pebble diamonds everything.

1069
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: So on this next chain now got TMC exposure. And

1070
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: I'll say this straight up. I even actually made his

1071
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: glow up even bigger, do you know what I mean?

1072
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: Like when I gave him his his swagger got crazy

1073
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: after that, right, cloud levels got went up and everything.

1074
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: So now he's a big rock star. First time I

1075
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: meet him, he's like, Yo, Ben Baller, I've been wanting

1076
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: to meet you forever, you know, blah blah. I didn't

1077
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: want to go through a side rocket and meet you,

1078
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, and I just whatever and boom And like,

1079
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: by the way, Rocky was was very influential and introduced

1080
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: me to these young the new young wave of rappers,

1081
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: because he's like the godfather of all that ship so

1082
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: um going on. Oozy hits me up and he sends

1083
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: me this picture of Marilyn Manson that Terry Richardson shot. Now,

1084
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: the thing is a lot of people in rap and

1085
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: I know it's like, oh the fun you think we're stupid. No,

1086
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're stupid, but a lot of people aren't,

1087
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: you know, not articulate. But you know, there's a lot

1088
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: of people that don't don't know who Terry Richardson is,

1089
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: all right, and like all right, boom, Terry Richardson shot

1090
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: this for the cover of Paper magazine and this is

1091
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: Marilyn Manson. A lot of people don't know who the

1092
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 1: Marilyn Manson is now going on. I mean, some people

1093
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: don't give a funk about that Goofy gool Cox suner

1094
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,959
Speaker 1: so who he loves this guy, right and he's fake

1095
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: Lucifer Alow whatever. Listen, I don't get into people's things.

1096
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: You start ranting about slavery was a choice, and what

1097
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I don't get involved until that. So going on,

1098
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: I didn't like that he started talking about Bieber and

1099
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: I like, I'm like, why are you shipping on Biber?

1100
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: Let this funk? Like who you shoot on man, Marilyn Manson.

1101
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: He started popping ship about Bieber and I'm like, my man,

1102
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: without the pigeon blood and the whole You're like just

1103
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,439
Speaker 1: your your whole show is is what is the Halloween ship?

1104
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: And uh um, yeah, it's somehow it's some haunted harbor ship.

1105
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: Like if you take all that ship away, like like

1106
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: rock your ship acoustic, you're you can't funk with Justine?

1107
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: Why are you shipping on Bieber? Anyway? Go ahead, so

1108
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: Oozy says, let's make this piece long story short, I

1109
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: make it. It came out as far as Craspman ship,

1110
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: I have to say, is the best thing I've ever

1111
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: made in my entire life. Right, better than Michael Jackson's

1112
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: fucking brooch, which was coming up next. But I'm just

1113
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: saying it was the best thing. And you know the

1114
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: crazy part about it was it was Easter Sunday and

1115
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: he's performing on a stage. This is Oozy. He's now

1116
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: his balls have grown. He popped his cherry. He's doing

1117
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: festivals now. This motherfucker ain't like some small dude. He's

1118
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: doing the big stage Coachella. I have two hours to

1119
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: get to Coachella. We've talked about this ready. I have collidis.

1120
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't like to be in the car for two

1121
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: hours in the hot sun. I like to have every

1122
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,439
Speaker 1: single route you know where I'm getting off. I gotta

1123
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: jump off the in and out and use the restroom whatever.

1124
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: I have water I Freeway, as we know it is

1125
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: my bathroom. Yeah, I look at the tent freeway as

1126
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: a public bath. I'm john to Palm Springs. I bring

1127
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: a separate outfit because I'm wearing this fucking peppy, goofy

1128
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: outfit for my wife and my kids for Easter. And

1129
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm at the Langamotawn Pasadena. Change into my hip hop ship,

1130
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: get in the car, and I started smashing to fucking Coachella.

1131
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: All right. I get there. Of course zis late, blah

1132
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: blah whatever. We go through the whole thing and us

1133
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: he goes, I don't even want to see it. And

1134
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: I was a talking about and he goes, I'm gonna

1135
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: bring you out on stage. And I'm like, wow, how

1136
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: many jewelers do you know? I've ever gone on stage

1137
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: and Coachella are going and any let alone any enormous show.

1138
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: Never has it happened. Right, So, in the middle of

1139
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: his set, before he's about to do one of his

1140
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: biggest songs, Exo tour Life, Who's he goes, yo, yo,

1141
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: I got something to say, Man, your where's my jeweler at?

1142
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: You know, where's Ben baller Rat? And I walk out

1143
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: on stage in front of like fucking sixty thou people

1144
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: and he goes pull my chain out, and I pull

1145
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: it out, and I remember Virgil was there, Tiger was there,

1146
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: like Rocky, I mean, every fucking person like whatever was

1147
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: watching us for him. They were like, Yo, this ship

1148
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: is crazy. I did a choker chain with spikes. Farrell

1149
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: was even like, Farrell doesn't even fucking fun with jewelry.

1150
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: He even though he's the god of gods when it

1151
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: came to him and Ego, Farrell was like, that's special,

1152
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: that's crazy. What Ben, what you did for Tyler and

1153
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: and Uzy crazy, Right, That's the most ultimate compliment. No

1154
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: one else can say anything, or you could say anything

1155
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: you want to, but for Farrell, to give the props,

1156
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: but doesn't, doesn't Farrell he has like that Johnny depth

1157
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: like pirate ship. It's like he has he has a

1158
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: bunch of ship too. I'm like, he's evolved into a

1159
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: different level of high fashions. I'm getting on the hip

1160
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: hop ship. He didn't graduated to god level. He's immortal

1161
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: now in that world. But this tooker Chain everything. Then

1162
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: Marilyn Manson and then never in a million years did

1163
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: I think it was gonna go that viral to where

1164
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: I'm like driving and I'm not even listening to Hip

1165
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: Hop Nation or Shave forty five. I'm listening to the

1166
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: Heat Chald forty six on fucking on the serious and like,

1167
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: guess who just got a quarter million dollar chained? I'm like,

1168
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's not talking about I'm like, well, who

1169
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: else could be talking about? Right? Then TMZ is running

1170
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: the story. Then TMZ stops me with a sap rocky, hey,

1171
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: how about us chain? I was like, are you fucking

1172
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: kidding me? And then it goes so big. It keeps

1173
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: going on paper magazines like oh my god, boom. Then

1174
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: Marilyn Manson fucking post the picture on his page and

1175
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: it goes, my son, You've done well with the fucking

1176
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the fucking devil ship. And

1177
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: then him and Marilyn Manson become good friends. And then

1178
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: now he's like, I guess not a and R, but

1179
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: like creative consultant for Merrill Manson's come back out. Just

1180
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: a lot of ship going on with that. That that

1181
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: piece sparred so you know it spawned so much ship.

1182
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: Does he still have it? Fuck? Yeah, bro, that's a

1183
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: legendary piece, dude. Yeah. Have you ever made something for

1184
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: somebody that you put your heart and soul and like

1185
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: you see them a year later? Yo? I fucking lost

1186
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: that ring or I lost that bracelet like I mean,

1187
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: or if he does it really do? One time I

1188
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: made Fabulous a hundred thousandllar chain that said lo so

1189
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: with the Carlito's Way thing. And the crazy part was

1190
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: it was this fucking gigantic canary diamond yellow gold. You're

1191
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: in heavy as fuck new Yorkers love their ship. Heavy

1192
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 1: new Yorkers like fucking heavy. Cuban new Yorkers started all

1193
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: the trends. Fabulous always had his jewelry game on point,

1194
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: and fab had this chance a Loso and if you

1195
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: flip it over, it's all white on white diamonds. It's

1196
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: two pieces and one dude. He hits me up. One day,

1197
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: I decided to post the piece on my BBM Do

1198
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: you ever BBM? Back in the day at BBM balls

1199
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: posted He's yo, my man, did you see the piece?

1200
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: And I was like no, no, he goes, I lost

1201
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: the piece, lost it? Yeah, how then do you lose?

1202
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: He had it in a bag of his jewelry and

1203
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: his assistant had or something from I don't remember exactly,

1204
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: but they left it in a van at a video

1205
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: shoot and it went back. But it happens a lot, dude,

1206
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: and it's crazy, like you know, y G super famale,

1207
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: Donald Trump by I made him a piece the size

1208
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: of a fucking iPad. He was the first person I said, Bro,

1209
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: you're young, you're a real as gangster, You're a real

1210
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: affiliated fucking gangbanger. You just got some paper, you got

1211
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: tooted and boot ITTs hitting whatever. And you know, I

1212
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: didn't know because that was the song. Listen. I just

1213
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: moved now and it's evolved into like dope, super dope

1214
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: rap shit. He's like one of the few people I

1215
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: really funk when he's on the West too, and I'm

1216
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: like you sure you want to drop this kind of

1217
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: money and chains, like yo, listen, man, shut the funk up,

1218
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: bemballer man game my motherfucking chain and like this dude

1219
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: had shot me out on stage and everything. I was like, oh,

1220
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: I let's make the chain. So he left his in

1221
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: a taxi I think, or something like something crazy. I

1222
01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: don't know, dude, you know, ship happens, man, Yo, that's

1223
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: fucking crazy man. All right, so number give me them

1224
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: the third the third one, so you said, Michael Jackson.

1225
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: Ship let school, Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson. Now the level

1226
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: of it hip hop wise was not, They're right, it was. Well.

1227
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 1: I made a few pieces for him, a belt, everything else.

1228
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: Did he come see you or does he send a guy?

1229
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: The story about we're gonna get into about Michael Jackson

1230
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: right now is the next level ship that no one's

1231
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: ever heard ever. And the confidential agreement expired like three

1232
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: years ago, so I can talk about this now. This

1233
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: is crazy. So anyways, I had to meet this dude

1234
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: three times. One time I met him in Brentwood in

1235
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: a coffee shop right off Samson. Yes, his manager was

1236
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: one that set everything up. I meet him there. I

1237
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: don't know why. Then I asked his Vietnam mose dude

1238
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: who worked at the cafe that the Croissans, And it

1239
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: was like fancy Brentwood ship, you know, like the Brentwood

1240
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 1: thirty million dollar house area right, And so I go

1241
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: out a man, do you know that is right there?

1242
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: And he goes. He couldn't see Mike and he's like yeah.

1243
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: I was like, who who is that? And he goes,

1244
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: does Michael Jackson bent? How would you know he goes?

1245
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: Because my comes here once in a while. And I

1246
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: was like, bro, you know this is like two thousand

1247
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: and eight, you know what I'm saying. Whatever, this is

1248
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: like a weird time. So we talked about a few pieces.

1249
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: Now this is the crazy part, exactly how far me

1250
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: and you are. That's how far me and MJ were

1251
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: managers here. I'd asked him something and he talked to

1252
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: manage and speak to me in third person. He wouldn't

1253
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: talk to me directly. He would talk to him. Would

1254
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: you look at you? It? Maybe glanced? Where was he looking?

1255
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 1: He was just like looking into anywhere he was. He

1256
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 1: was into a whole different, different, different space zone. And whatever.

1257
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 1: I don't know. Now this is the crazy part. My

1258
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 1: cousin dated his nephew, So I've been the Netherland before. Okay,

1259
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 1: now this is the crazy part. I grew up as

1260
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: a breakdancer. Okay, I was an extra in the movie Breaking.

1261
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: I've been breakdancing almost you know, I was like a

1262
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: heavy breakdancer. If you're break dancing and you see that

1263
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: moonwalk back when you know when it came to it,

1264
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 1: did you remember the fucking seeing him moonwalk for the

1265
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: first time? Like, Bro, what it did to me and

1266
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: everything and everything? Bro, I idolized this dude. You know,

1267
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: it's a different level of realization. Is Michael Jackson and

1268
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: he's totally bugged out. He won't even speak to you.

1269
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: And I'm accepting it because it's Himchael Jackson. And if

1270
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: Bieber ever talk to me like that, and that's my man.

1271
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: No one could pull that off except for Michael Jackson

1272
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 1: back Kobe, not Michael Jordan's now Mike Tyson. Yeah, I'll

1273
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 1: pull be written a headlock. You know, I'm sayings could

1274
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: do it. And the thing is there's no security anywhere,

1275
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: even though his manager is a pretty badass motherfucker. Like

1276
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: Eastern European or Italian gangster dude. I just there was

1277
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 1: so much respect that you're shipping on me right now.

1278
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say a fucking thing about it, all right.

1279
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: So we talked about some stuff. No one knows the

1280
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 1: whole story. He shows me a fucking unicorn a crest

1281
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: and he goes to my logo, there's m a j

1282
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: There was a unicorn there and it was like a

1283
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: not a regular unicorn, and he goes, I want this

1284
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 1: to be made with the top rubies of rubies. So

1285
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,759
Speaker 1: I'm like rubies. I'm like, no, this is where jeweler

1286
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 1: comes and jewelry one on one comes in. I'm like, rubies,

1287
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: it's just like two round. I was like maybe three

1288
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: and bucks I care, you know, diamonds it could be

1289
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 1: a thousand, depending on saying the smaller stones, you know.

1290
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is gonna be a fucking breeze.

1291
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a breeze, right. So I tell

1292
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: him all right, and I was like, what are you

1293
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: looking to spend? Mind you of the time, everyone saying

1294
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: he's broke, he had no money, blah blah, whatever. I

1295
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 1: made the joy for up to the until he passed away.

1296
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: So I had a budget of forty to make this brooch,

1297
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dude, I'm gonna murder this thing, right.

1298
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 1: So I'm like, and I'm gonna make a crazy profit

1299
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: because this motherfucker goes in and buys all kinds of

1300
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,560
Speaker 1: Faberge eggs and spends money. Don't give a funk. He

1301
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: just fox off money, you know. So I go make

1302
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 1: this piece and I bring it back like a week later,

1303
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: super fast, and he's like, this is terrible. You know what,

1304
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: I think this is a bad idea, he said. Yeah,

1305
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: he said, this is awful. This is not what I wanted,

1306
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 1: blah blah whatever. And to be honest with you, it

1307
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 1: didn't look very good. But that's the art work he

1308
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: gave me. And trying to get ahold of him and

1309
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: his manager and trying to get like, you know, going

1310
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 1: back with proofs, you know, like you find something like now,

1311
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,799
Speaker 1: it's like, funk this. I take it in my own initiative.

1312
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: You want a piece for me, brother, that's what you're

1313
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 1: gonna get. You know, you already know this is me

1314
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: in the game. Three years and I've landed the god

1315
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: of all gods, right, and this guy's shopping with like

1316
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 1: fucking graph you know what I'm saying, and going to

1317
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, Harry Winston meeting the CEO and things like that,

1318
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, going to fuck into Saudi Arabia and like

1319
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: getting a gift for twenty million dollars from from from

1320
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: from a chic. So I convinced them that I'm gonna

1321
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: use natural blue diamonds. I'm gonna change it up, I'm

1322
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: gonna clean it up, I'm gonna make it more detailed.

1323
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:25,879
Speaker 1: And he goes, yeah, I don't like these little small diamonds.

1324
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: Small diamonds, he means. Michael says, it's like Pavey. This

1325
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: is paves a bunch of small diamonds here, right, And

1326
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't like that. I need you to

1327
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: make it with big diamonds. I'm you know, you know,

1328
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: you know who I am. And I'm sitting and I

1329
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: was like, no, I mean I made him say that

1330
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 1: to me, do you know what I mean? Like? Bro,

1331
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: I made like, could you imagine if I'm Michael Jordan, Like, yo,

1332
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 1: do you know what the funk I am? Like? When

1333
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: we're at a basketball court of all places? Were you

1334
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: bugging out? When he was like didn't like your ship. Nah,

1335
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: I kind of felt like he gave me a bad,

1336
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 1: bad blueprint, like you know what I mean, like this

1337
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 1: the artwork was already did did he have the Michael

1338
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: Jackson voice that the soft ship or a lot of

1339
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: people talk about meeting him? And then in realized it wasn't.

1340
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 1: It wasn't like it was you know, it was I

1341
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 1: heard this guy cuss, you know, a hundred times, Like

1342
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: he cussed, he says some crazy shit. And but was

1343
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: the voice softer? Was it more of a like a

1344
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,759
Speaker 1: little more base in it? It wasn't the fruity pebbles

1345
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: a little more base in it, right, But it wasn't

1346
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: like he didn't have fucking you know, he didn't have

1347
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: Teddy Pendergrass's voice, you know. But like I go back

1348
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: to the drawing board, I make this piece and he

1349
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: likes it. So I'm like, fucking amazing. Now he wants

1350
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: a fifty carrot diamond buckle belt buckle, and I'm like,

1351
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: this dude out of his fucking mind. Better for me, right,

1352
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: So he's renting this house on Sunset by like U

1353
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: c l a like kind of like in that one

1354
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: area right bell area, blah, blah, what holy hills or

1355
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: house passed away? And right, so this house is fucking enormous. Um,

1356
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: you go to the house. On the last time I

1357
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 1: ever saw him, I go to the house. We started

1358
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: talking about a bunch of stuff. And this is when

1359
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: I realized, Ben, you're out of your league and you

1360
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 1: have to just let him know you're out of your league. So,

1361
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 1: because I'm looking for a diamond and this diamond was

1362
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: like a forty seven Cara blue diamond that was worth

1363
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: maybe like at the time, maybe like seven million dollars

1364
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: and it was due to was only was it beyond

1365
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 1: my prey grade and everything else. It was so I

1366
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 1: was so out of my element that like it was

1367
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: embarrassing because not some James bonds. Yeah, this is really

1368
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 1: like for real, Like could you imagine, like you back,

1369
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 1: y'all listen, um, where are you going? Oh? You know,

1370
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have lunch and do by them all and

1371
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,839
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna fly to Paris and I'm gonna slide

1372
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 1: down the Eiffel Tower and then maybe I'm gonna go home,

1373
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 1: you know, just crazy ship like that. It was like

1374
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: it didn't make sense to me. So we had this conversation.

1375
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: We're talking. He's in the middle of saying something and

1376
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: he gets up again. This is not talking to me.

1377
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: He gets up off his couch and he leaves in

1378
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 1: the middle of a conversation. I'd say I thought we

1379
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 1: were about eight percent done in our discussion. So he leaves,

1380
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 1: So I sit back. Ten minutes goes by. You're there

1381
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: by yourself at this point in his house, you and

1382
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson and his manager's managering him. He gets up,

1383
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: and his manager gets up, and so I figured out, like,

1384
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm gonna go get a drink. You don't

1385
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: say nothing. She just gets up the conversations. Like I said,

1386
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 1: we have to be another thing. There's twenty left that

1387
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: we need to talk about. So and it's the last

1388
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 1: time I ever saw him, by the way, So he leaves.

1389
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 1: We're not done. And twenty minutes goes by, and I'm like,

1390
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: you know what, man, I'm not gonna disrespect him, So

1391
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna chill. Forty five minutes goes by, and

1392
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, funck this ship, like, you know,

1393
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 1: not saying like funck him, but like all right, dude,

1394
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: Like I need to figure out what's going on because

1395
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: maybe something's wrong, maybe something's wrong in the house based

1396
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: that's going on. So I get up, I start walking around.

1397
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 1: I never get lost. My geography is insane. I'd be

1398
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 1: in China, fucking Korea, Philippines. I know where I'm at.

1399
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: I go through a wrong door. I don't know where

1400
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: the funk I'm at. I run into his chef and

1401
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: he goes, hey, we're doing I was like, hey, uh,

1402
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 1: you've seen him j And he goes, I haven't seen

1403
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: him Jay in week. And I was like what And

1404
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: he goes, I don't seen m Jay in a week.

1405
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 1: And he goes, um, who are you. I'm Ben Baller.

1406
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:10,839
Speaker 1: I'm a jeweler and he goes, oh, you're a jewelers.

1407
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: You made jewelry. I was like yeah. And this dude

1408
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: is like a regular, you know, white dude whatever, and um,

1409
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: you know he didn't have like a French actor or

1410
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 1: nothing or anything, so you know, but I mean, he's

1411
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: he's his chefs. We could you imagine how fucking ill

1412
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 1: this dudes. It's gotta be the Illes dude. So like

1413
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm thinking in my brain, like this dude like on

1414
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,560
Speaker 1: some special ed ship, like I'm getting some alligators to flay,

1415
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 1: you know, blah blah whatever. So at that point, I've

1416
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: signed confidential agreement, you know, so I could ask this

1417
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: dude pretty much, and I felt confidences do anything cause

1418
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 1: I can't talk about it right. So I'm like, all right, man,

1419
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: you know, um, you haven't seen him. And he goes, no,

1420
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 1: do this as a big house if you haven't noticed

1421
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 1: as a very big house. You know, Um, I haven't

1422
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 1: seen him, so you know. I was like, so, you

1423
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 1: haven't cooked in a week, and he goes, no, I cook.

1424
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 1: There's food always here and I cook every day. I

1425
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: was like, what's the craziest thing you've ever cooked? From

1426
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. I'm sorry, I just I just want to know.

1427
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 1: And he knows the craziest thing. And he's eating chips

1428
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,640
Speaker 1: and he's like, by the way, chips that he made, right,

1429
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: potatoes he made. He goes, he goes, we're in Paris

1430
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: during the Dangerous tour, and um, I guess he rented

1431
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: out the entire penthouse. I don't know what the hotel

1432
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: was rented out, the entire the entire floor being broke.

1433
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if there are seventy five rooms on

1434
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: the floor. I don't know if there's a hundred, but

1435
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 1: there's more than like fifteen rooms on the floor. Rents

1436
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: the whole top floor because he want to be on

1437
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 1: the same floor. And he said he was leaving to

1438
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: go to the show to perform, and he came out

1439
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: too me and he goes, I'm going to be coming

1440
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:38,799
Speaker 1: back at this time with some guests, my little friends.

1441
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: So I want you to make some gourmet chocolate easter eggs.

1442
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:43,799
Speaker 1: I want you to hide them all over the hotel

1443
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have Easter egg hunt. And that was

1444
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: the fucking most bugged out should I ever heard of

1445
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 1: my entire life, saying him saying his little friends, because

1446
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: I don't know and that that wasn't what I meant,

1447
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like that's what that was a

1448
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 1: verbatim what he said. But the ill ship was you're

1449
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: a chef, right, Michael Jackson chef? So if he says

1450
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 1: he wants a pizza, you gotta have a pizza and

1451
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: ready to go on the fridge if you have you

1452
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: want um kimchi, got it ready to go right? Well,

1453
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: you know what today I want to have Jamaican goat curry.

1454
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 1: Whatever do you know what I'm trying to say to you,

1455
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: Like that this this fridge, his fridge was bigger than

1456
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: this room that we're in right now, no joke, straight up,

1457
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: I grabbed the mountain dew out of that bitch, all right.

1458
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: So like I'm thinking, who has the gold foil at

1459
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 1: seven pm or six pm or something in Paris to go?

1460
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: But you had to obviously make it happen, Yeah, and

1461
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: then make the fucking chocolate eggs right with a little

1462
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: hollow inside to hide him around the That's just some

1463
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 1: crazy ship. That's some crazy So just because of the experience,

1464
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: MJ gets top five regardless because who he is and

1465
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: everything else. Of course, all right, number two more so

1466
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 1: til the Creator. Um, it's like, uh, what is his

1467
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 1: deal in terms of like what's his fucking deal? Like

1468
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: like a few years ago he came like I was like, oh,

1469
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 1: this guy is bringing some new ship. I'm like, and

1470
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: then the music, Like I respect him, I've met him.

1471
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: He's a nicely but I'm like, what is this fucking story,

1472
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 1: this title of the Creator? What is what does he do?

1473
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: Like the kids like his music? He brought this whole

1474
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: thing in like because I think he's more talented than

1475
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 1: his music has shown. He's have you seen his videos,

1476
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: He's insane. He's an unbelievable director. And yeah, he's like

1477
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 1: he's like an artist where the bangers at? All Right.

1478
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 1: I've known Tyler since he was sixteen, all right, and

1479
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: he he worked He worked in the Diamond Store. You know,

1480
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 1: he worked at you know, Diamond Supply, you know which

1481
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: which shout to my boy Nick Diamond. Um. You know,

1482
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 1: he's on Fairfax. He's one of the o G kids

1483
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: wanning on Fairfax, skateboarding around and he created this collective

1484
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: you know, you know, his his his his manager and

1485
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: that runs his label and everything is was Eminem's you know,

1486
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 1: artist director you know at at back at Interscope and

1487
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: Chris Clancy's amazing talented dude, and they brought up this

1488
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: collective of future. You know, Tyler had a vision and

1489
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,799
Speaker 1: he's super weird and anything else. But he's a genius.

1490
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: He's brilliant a lot of ways. But at the same time,

1491
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: I think he has four albums our or three, I

1492
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 1: don't know exactly, but I'm gonna be real with you.

1493
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: I might know like three songs and a couple that

1494
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: I funk with, but not not really and everything and

1495
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 1: he knows that and they'll do shows. I don't go

1496
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: to a lot of shows with him, but something about him,

1497
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: you know, he has a crazy following and you know,

1498
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 1: like I think Oozy was spawned from that and a

1499
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 1: lot of people, and he's sort of like offbeat nerd,

1500
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 1: whatever the funk you want to call it, like you know,

1501
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 1: nerdier than like you know, like the Forreill nerd, Like

1502
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: I can't even compare with for All because for All

1503
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: is on a different level. But even like weirder than

1504
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 1: Fishbone was back in the day when like music was

1505
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: that he just was he was so it was just crazy.

1506
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know what the funk it is.

1507
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: The thing about Tyler that I love is that, Okay,

1508
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: he has a private account Instagram account, he has a

1509
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,719
Speaker 1: private Twitter account and even though that's like a hundred

1510
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: thirty like listen that ship, like forty five people follow it, right,

1511
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: and like he'll really talk there and he really uses

1512
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: it really well, and some of the ship he says

1513
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: is amazing, Like I wish I could funk. It's fucking hilarious.

1514
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 1: I won't speak about it, but it's hilarious. So like,

1515
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: I don't try to understand Tyler, but there's a lot

1516
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: of other sides of him that no one would ever think,

1517
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: like since you would never think that he owns McLarens

1518
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: and Ferrari's, and like he likes that ship. And I'm

1519
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: a car connoisseur. If it wasn't for as Corny l

1520
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: a first world this sounds. If it wasn't for my

1521
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: Ferrari dealer, a mirror who sold Austin Rivers his car.

1522
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: Me and Austin Rivers are really good friends, he said,

1523
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 1: listen to this Austin Rivers podcast about for and that's

1524
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: where I found your podcast to Austin Rivers. So like,

1525
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 1: you know, like Tyler is just a car dude and whatever,

1526
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: and like he loves music. I'm gonna tell you this

1527
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: real quick. One of the first things I respected was

1528
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 1: one you come on the show, you break out and

1529
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 1: you have your your your your breakbeats, you have your

1530
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 1: funky beat, you have music, and I'm like, wow, you

1531
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna check Michael Rapport because one time

1532
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 1: I saw him in Target about eleven years ago. Yeah,

1533
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: and you're with your two kids. They're pretty young at

1534
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: the time, and you were like, and if you're in

1535
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 1: your fucking you're in your Danny ill and would you like,

1536
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 1: what the fun? Hey, hey, how you doing? You looked

1537
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: at me, you made eye contract with Okay, you fuck you? Yeah,

1538
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: I have a nice day. You know you're you'rre tated.

1539
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 1: It could have been the cladus, could have been the

1540
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: kids driving you crazy. I'm a dad, I get it.

1541
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, boom I seeing zebra head.

1542
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,839
Speaker 1: Bro think I'm from I'm o g right, I've seen everything.

1543
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 1: You know, I remember fucking your name wasn't tell me

1544
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: what was it from? From uh? From u um um

1545
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 1: remy remy because from tell us right. But so you know,

1546
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like partake soaking us all in and

1547
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, I'm gonna check this dude when I

1548
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 1: get on this show one day. And then hip hop

1549
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: knowledge got me fucked up, and it sucked me up

1550
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: pretty deep. And then it got deeper and deeper, and

1551
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, this dude is so in it

1552
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 1: now that he's in it deeper than me. And then

1553
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: you brought j Rock on the show and you're talking

1554
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: about someone in one of my comrades, A djaying and

1555
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 1: it's like sex Live of the Sex Machine is one

1556
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 1: of my favorite mix tapes here put out. Ever. Then

1557
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 1: we got into basketball, and I love when people trolling

1558
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: me and say you know the basketball and like hate

1559
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it is just getting onto

1560
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,759
Speaker 1: where what I'm getting at is is going to relate

1561
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 1: back to the whole story. It's just a very big

1562
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: you turn and it's like boom. And then you said

1563
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: the name of all names that fucked me up. You

1564
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: said Willie Hutch the first time I heard your show,

1565
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,839
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you don't understand. One of my first project,

1566
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 1: The Aftermath, when I was head of A and R

1567
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: Aftermath Entertainment was we were we got we booked the

1568
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 1: American Pip soundtrack. So American Pimp was it was a

1569
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: huge Brothers movie. Do you remember that? Course of course,

1570
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: so they did American Pimp and Dr dre goes yo,

1571
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 1: let me, let me, let me play you. The first

1572
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 1: song we got for the soundtrack and it was the

1573
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,640
Speaker 1: mac I choose you Willie Hutch and he replayed the

1574
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: whole thing and I was like, I choose and I

1575
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 1: was like, oh ship. I was like, what the funk

1576
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 1: and I was like, and I was digging in the crates,

1577
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,719
Speaker 1: heavy Royal airs, Grover Washington. You know what I'm saying,

1578
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: A blackbird Rock, Creek Park, you name it, boss s, gags,

1579
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: anything you could think of funky I was fucking with.

1580
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:55,719
Speaker 1: So I'm like, Okay, I thought that Michael was maybe

1581
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: partly autistic, maybe partly retarded his dude as a genius.

1582
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: He knows about Willie Hutch and then it went into

1583
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 1: it right, So what I'm getting at is, I would

1584
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 1: hear Tyler talk about crazy wear music like beyond like

1585
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: just Ramp and other funky ship might be deeper than

1586
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: Bootsy Collin stuff. And like I heard your pee Rock

1587
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 1: is a legend to me. Do he might be one

1588
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 1: of my favorite producers ever in history of ever. So

1589
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:20,839
Speaker 1: like yeah, so, like you know, when you hear Tyler,

1590
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 1: believe it or not, he does respect that aspect of

1591
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 1: the music and he puts his own twist on it.

1592
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 1: And he's done a lot of things and honestly tell

1593
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: the truth, when I hear some of the songs he's

1594
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: actually wrapped on, like for instance, Frank Ocean when he's

1595
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 1: on other people should I've heard him get off and

1596
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 1: I heard a couple of his joints, and I'm like, like,

1597
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 1: I heard him with a sap and then there was

1598
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 1: one with it was it um uh push your t

1599
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 1: and with jay Z too with on the free album

1600
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: on Biking and on Biking on the second course my

1601
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 1: name is mentioned, Frank Ocean says, you know, since ben

1602
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: Ball was sold, his life was losting and when I

1603
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: hear even what Tyler's round about them, I'm like, yo,

1604
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: I funk with this right and just hearing the beat

1605
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 1: and some of the melodic you don't like music and everything,

1606
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 1: I just get, I get talented, But I'm like, I

1607
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 1: just but with that said, I don't know what goes

1608
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 1: on with the gothic weird ship. I'm like, just like,

1609
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: so now he's a friend of mine and and I

1610
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: feel the same way you do. So that lets me

1611
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 1: tell you that I don't know, and I don't try

1612
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: to anymore. You know, m he's crazy, so going on, um,

1613
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: you would never think someone like him would like gaudy

1614
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: pieces of jewelry. So I don't know if you know,

1615
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:31,640
Speaker 1: but he loves to draw, so he draws all his

1616
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: album covers, creates everything artistic on his albums, are off.

1617
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: Anything was him, clothing around, everything he designed himself. He's

1618
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 1: hands on. He designs the craziest show. I'm like, yo,

1619
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,759
Speaker 1: this is the ugliest ship in the world, and he goes, dude,

1620
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 1: just because you said that, this is gonna be the

1621
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 1: best piece ever, because I don't want you to like

1622
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 1: anything that I make. And I'm like, all right, Tyler,

1623
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 1: you finally have money to get a bemballer chain and

1624
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this. Now, We're gonna finally do this.

1625
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: I've known you a very long time. You know you

1626
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 1: ten years of your life. Dude, all right, let's go.

1627
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: And we started making pieces and then I see how

1628
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 1: the internet reacts and then I look at it in

1629
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 1: a autistic rain Man type of view, and I'm like,

1630
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 1: this is actually pretty fucking dope because you drew some

1631
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 1: seven third grade crayon drawings and we turned this ship

1632
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:25,719
Speaker 1: into jewelry and it's fucking it's dope. What's this piece again?

1633
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 1: What is it? What is the visuals of it? He

1634
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,759
Speaker 1: has a cherry bomb piece. It looks like a pussy face.

1635
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: Then he has this golf cat that looks fucking nuts

1636
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: and the eyes all fucked up with the crack diamond.

1637
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: I then he has this crazy flower piece that's different pieces,

1638
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, but they're all together. And then and then

1639
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 1: I made him the scum fuck flower boy piece, which

1640
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 1: is like ten different links around his neck and they

1641
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 1: all came together. And when you hear fill In asap rocky,

1642
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,520
Speaker 1: I respect them because my sisters are high fashion stylists.

1643
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 1: I respect that they're trying to be other than just

1644
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: accessible shipped to. Like they're not gonna rock if they

1645
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 1: was two thousand one. They're not rocking foo boo and

1646
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 1: fucking They're they're trying to go further. That's unreachable from dudes, right,

1647
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 1: the happy meeting between rappers is supreme. You know you

1648
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 1: rock supreme, you're cool. But then when you start going

1649
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: a deal and product and fucking you know, Rick Owens

1650
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: as a different levels outreach, it's not reachable to the

1651
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: average dude. So when those dudes are be like, yo,

1652
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 1: that change you made, Tyler, I'm not you think so

1653
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: for real? And I'm like the craftsmanship okay, but you

1654
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 1: like the actual concept of thing like Ben and She

1655
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,839
Speaker 1: is fire And I'm like, all right, let me redirect

1656
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: myself into Charlie Babbitt and let me think about this

1657
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: whole thing, like all right, you know, no, this is

1658
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 1: this is dope. And after I started to absorb all this,

1659
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 1: and I guess maybe I know him so long, I

1660
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 1: just kind of be like, all right, you know, my

1661
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 1: wife thinks he's hilarious, and he chose me more than

1662
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 1: anybody there's I have maybe fifty videos of him trolling

1663
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 1: me and everything, just you know, we know each other

1664
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, but at the same time,

1665
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: he's the kind of guy that come to one of

1666
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 1: my dinners, like forty people for like another dinner. I

1667
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:00,759
Speaker 1: haven't been invited to. This is to fucking energy. Mentioned

1668
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: I didn't get a fucking invite over here. And he

1669
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 1: won't speak to anyone. He won't say a fucking word.

1670
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: It's hard not to talk for you know, two hours whatever,

1671
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: or talked to himself, and he's just like he's just

1672
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: he's just not comfortable. He's like he's like, emin I'm

1673
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 1: in a way, you know, in public. So going on

1674
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 1: his jewelry is definitely, you know, up there with with

1675
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 1: with the dopest ship I made um to go to

1676
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 1: the fifth. It's tough because there's so many pieces that

1677
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 1: I love and we're talking about celebrities now, but I'll

1678
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 1: say this. I retired in October two thousand and sixteen

1679
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 1: because I was so sick of making jewelry and I

1680
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: was so sick of all the bullshit and I hated

1681
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 1: where mumble rapping all this ship was going to join

1682
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: me crazy. I think it gave me fucking gasid game.

1683
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: It just made me sick and I can't stand hearing

1684
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And I'm like that's sixteen bars

1685
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: right there. You said yeah, And I'm like, yo, bro,

1686
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 1: Like what fucking label cleared this fucking song? So going on.

1687
01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:00,080
Speaker 1: I retired in December. Sat Fur gets me up and

1688
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: he's like, yo, listen, it's time and I was like,

1689
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 1: it's not time because I'm done. He goes, no, listen,

1690
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 1: my boy. I followed you on my Space when my

1691
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 1: homeboys gave you an art piece, we started going deep.

1692
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 1: He's like, this is before a side male was even created. Right.

1693
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 1: I know about your history. I know you and Dame

1694
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 1: Dash walk with each other heavy way back in the day.

1695
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: He was part of the Rockefell like o G family

1696
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 1: blah blah, and it's Harlem you know. He's like, bro,

1697
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,560
Speaker 1: it's Yam's Day on January six whatever, and I was

1698
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: like okay, and he goes, I need to make this piece.

1699
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: He sends me this Yamborghini piece which is Lamborghini yoga

1700
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 1: but asap Yams bowl on there. And I'm like, yo,

1701
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 1: do you for I'm not trying to count your pockets

1702
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: and I don't want to disrespect you. Do you have

1703
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 1: any idea what this is gonna cost? And he goes,

1704
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 1: all right, check this out be I want the Arams

1705
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 1: link to go around it full the ice dot. I

1706
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: was like, okay, for tell me you got something coming out?

1707
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 1: Like yeah, are you doing that? He goes baller, I

1708
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 1: Gottadidas collapse, I got this, this and this he was

1709
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 1: shown me. And it was like, yo, bro, I'm good.

1710
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 1: We're good to pay for it, not just to pay

1711
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 1: for it, but I don't want it to be like yo,

1712
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, be on some And he goes baller and

1713
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 1: he showed me a couple of comps and I was like, damn, fam,

1714
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. You know you're smart, you know

1715
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: you have your own thing going on. You're not relying

1716
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 1: on anybody to help you out. You know, you don't

1717
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 1: use like you know, your party, sat mom, but you

1718
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: you're doing your thing and everyone is moving and and

1719
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm down with the crew really heavy and

1720
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 1: this is a big thing. And he goes, you can't

1721
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 1: tell Rocky. Me and Rocky own a clothing brand together.

1722
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 1: We own a kid's clothing brand together. Like I tell

1723
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:34,719
Speaker 1: Rocky everything that's going on, excuse me, And I'm like, okay,

1724
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 1: I retired from jewelry. Rocky's upset at me. Tyler is

1725
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 1: telling me I'm fucking I'm gay right, and that everyone's

1726
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 1: being like, yo, you're fucking tripping right, Like you gotta

1727
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:44,560
Speaker 1: make me a poos and make my pieces, you know,

1728
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 1: blah blah. I'm like, bro, it's not that deep, dude,

1729
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 1: Go fucking find Jacob, go find someone else, you know,

1730
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 1: and for hits me with all this ship and I'm like,

1731
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 1: all right, you're right, you right, you right. So I

1732
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 1: started doing sketches, started executing, and I tell him the

1733
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 1: prices of listen, bro, I need the first half right

1734
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 1: now before I start anything. That's standard. His Jewish accountant,

1735
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, money manager, sends me the first half fucking

1736
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 1: in the hour. I was like, that was the fastest

1737
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 1: motherfucking wire next John Mayor, I've ever had bro so

1738
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 1: you when you're doing like these big ones, Like if

1739
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: let's just say I'm just throwing out a number, let's

1740
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 1: just say it's fifty dollars, you need twenty five up

1741
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 1: front for the bigger numbers, if it's like a new wrapper.

1742
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:25,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, I need forty up front of the

1743
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 1: forty of the fifties. Yeah, because because they're gonna sunk

1744
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 1: around and play game and try and try to push,

1745
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:32,600
Speaker 1: like making the fucking thing, and you gotta put all

1746
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: my money into it. You know, I'm already putting my

1747
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 1: money in that standard though you give half, but a

1748
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 1: lot of jewelers are getting fun left and right. Dude,

1749
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 1: there's so much do we gotta do a part two

1750
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: of this interview? But you know, for gives me the

1751
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 1: first half. I got you and this was a heavy.

1752
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 1: So then we go over budget and my cousin goes,

1753
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? When I was like, Bro,

1754
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,080
Speaker 1: the fact that you've been asking me that. I was like,

1755
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:54,679
Speaker 1: you're gonna eat the other part, and he goes, wenna

1756
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 1: eat the part because I retired, And we don't eat

1757
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 1: unless I get in here, so I'm gonna play then

1758
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, the Kobe Ship, and I'm coming back to

1759
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:04,639
Speaker 1: the team and we're gonna do this ship the right way.

1760
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 1: So in January sixteenth they get to New York City.

1761
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:09,639
Speaker 1: It was the day before or the day M's day.

1762
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 1: I post picture of Jordan by the way. I love Jordan,

1763
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of his. I don't really funk with

1764
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 1: Jordan so heavy. I'm Maggic Johnson, you know, blankers to

1765
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 1: them till I die. But I posted the forty five

1766
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 1: him walking on the car Asti and people are like,

1767
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 1: what the fuck for likes the picture? Blah blah. No

1768
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 1: one knows what's going on. In fact, don't even know

1769
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 1: if I'm making jewelry again now. October, November, December, January

1770
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 1: three months agne by, I made no pieces and I

1771
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 1: go in there boom. I retired pretty much on Oozy's

1772
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 1: pieces first one. So I come back with that and

1773
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: I bust out the a Sap fucking yams Yamborghini piece

1774
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 1: and he goes, we're going in the studio. I'm gonna

1775
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 1: make this song called Plaine Jane right, and he records

1776
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 1: a song and I was like, oh, it's dope, dude. Literally,

1777
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: that was my exact reaction. I was like, that's fucking dope.

1778
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 1: Do I appreciate him? That's that's fucking dope. You know. Yeah.

1779
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, cool, now, remember this is January, February. Okay.

1780
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 1: Now March comes around and I think he releases the song,

1781
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:09,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, cool, some people playing hey man,

1782
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 1: the interes saying oh yeah, cool you n's my name?

1783
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 1: Like June, July comes around and starts playing a lot.

1784
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 1: Then like August comes around, it's the number one club

1785
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 1: song and the entire fucking world, not just and then

1786
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 1: December comes around. Now it's the biggest pop song. Now

1787
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 1: it's not even sucking hipp It's like, I'm like, yo,

1788
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 1: he's like Ben that he mentions your name eleven times

1789
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 1: in the song. You know. It's like Bemballa did the chain.

1790
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:34,799
Speaker 1: It's in the course the brest part. There are people

1791
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 1: singing it don't even know who the funk I am, right,

1792
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 1: They just know I made the chain. What chain? They

1793
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on, right, And it gets so

1794
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 1: big it created this viral thing where people start signing

1795
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 1: their credit card bills Bemballa did the chain and it's

1796
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: all over the place, and I'm like, yo, and I

1797
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: look at Furgin Fergs like, motherfucker, you owe me. I'm like, oh,

1798
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 1: fuck you, you you owe me. We should have fucking trademarked

1799
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 1: this ship because it's being said, dude, I heard Sports

1800
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 1: Center announcers, you know, stand every stand very whatever. He

1801
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 1: said it, Bemballa did the chain over just things like that,

1802
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 1: you know whatever. Or um let's say like the NBA

1803
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 1: player I forgot Jesus Christ. I'm so bad because you

1804
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 1: talking about how many young guys are on the NBA

1805
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 1: now and everything else. And it's not Clarkson or anybody

1806
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 1: I know that that's been on the Lakers, but like

1807
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 1: a lot of the other yokies, a lot of the

1808
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:15,799
Speaker 1: rookies I don't really know besides like Mitchell, some other people.

1809
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 1: You know, what's the dude's name that on Philly that

1810
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 1: didn't play in you know, not Mark? Yeah, yeah, they

1811
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: had a few. Mother. What I'm saying is, you know,

1812
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 1: there's so many people the NBA you know so much

1813
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 1: about this, and I haven't followed up. And I'm a dad,

1814
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm washed up, you know. And it's like he said

1815
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 1: someone's name, like, for instance, like Joel is the name

1816
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 1: Pam Paula did the chain and I was like, get

1817
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 1: the fuck out of here. Bro, my name is said

1818
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 1: on Sports Center for the first time ever since when

1819
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 1: I played ball and twenty one players with an ineligible

1820
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 1: on my team and I got my first chance of

1821
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 1: playing against some pt right. I never heard my name

1822
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:50,560
Speaker 1: in fucking you know, thirty years or whatever it may be,

1823
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 1: twenty eight years. So you know, that ship with Ferg

1824
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 1: put me to a whole another level. I hate to say,

1825
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 1: what person did you did? You? Did you can? So?

1826
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 1: Are you continue to do jewelry from that? Or yeah?

1827
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,600
Speaker 1: That that's when I went. That's when. So that January

1828
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 1: I turned into a fucking animal. Two thousand and seventeen,

1829
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm forty four years old, and it was the biggest

1830
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:14,839
Speaker 1: year of my career, in my life of anything, the biggest.

1831
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 1: I have my daughter coming in that year, my my

1832
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 1: my fucking third child, dog, the highest grossing year I've

1833
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: ever made on top of that High Piece does High

1834
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:27,799
Speaker 1: Piece one hundred list, it's like basically the most influential

1835
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 1: hundred people on earth. And for five years I pulled

1836
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 1: the Michael Robport, and I said, are You're really not

1837
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 1: gonna put me on this fucking list? You piece of

1838
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:37,680
Speaker 1: ships for like in two thousand and fourteen number the

1839
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 1: CEO and owner of High Piece a letter. I was like, really, bro,

1840
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 1: you put this during the list? You know I didn't.

1841
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:44,679
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, that's what you did back in the past.

1842
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 1: What did you do this year? And I was like, oh,

1843
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 1: you're a motherfucker. And then six hand and make seventeen.

1844
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 1: I get the fucking call. You got it? Yeah, I

1845
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 1: got it? You know. In seventeen was a great year.

1846
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 1: And tell you the truth, I loved ending the top

1847
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 1: five on being forks Piece, you know, and it's just

1848
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 1: it's just been a great year. And now this year,

1849
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 1: you know, um, I'm shooting a show with CNBC right now.

1850
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 1: Um I see executive producing it. He's what it's called

1851
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 1: American Hustler, shooting the pilot like next month, you know,

1852
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 1: and it's like it got greenlit for the pilot from

1853
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 1: their boom. We see who we go. Now I'm on

1854
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,639
Speaker 1: network because before my reality show was on fused small

1855
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:21,720
Speaker 1: fucking TV channels, and um, I just got a lot

1856
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 1: going on, you know, I you know, a year and

1857
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 1: a half ago, I had eleven employees, only did music,

1858
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,759
Speaker 1: I mean, only did jewelry. Now I have two seventeen

1859
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 1: employees I own. I own a cannabis you know company

1860
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 1: I have, you know, my clothing brand with with Asad Rocky.

1861
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 1: We were in debt two million dollars a year and

1862
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,959
Speaker 1: a half ago. Now we've got a debt and weren't positive.

1863
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 1: So how do you how do you make money? Like

1864
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 1: you you obviously understand business you have, you have taste

1865
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 1: all that stuff, but like you know, like like fucking

1866
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 1: these businesses, cannabis, jewelry, clothing companies, Well how does it

1867
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,719
Speaker 1: make money? Like? I don't understand all any of that ship? Okay,

1868
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 1: so let me let me explain this too real quick

1869
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 1: shout out to Luton's or Halls cough drops because I

1870
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 1: need a sponsor. Yeah, I need a fucking spots you

1871
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 1: do you do? I didn't think about that. If they

1872
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 1: could cure me, they should be like remember that cough

1873
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:15,719
Speaker 1: that I used to do every time on the podcast.

1874
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 1: This is how it fixes your ship, bro, And then

1875
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 1: you'd fucking you'd make the money. So going on, when

1876
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 1: I got into the cannabis game, never in a million

1877
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 1: fucking years. In my wildest dreams, did I ever think

1878
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 1: it was gonna retire me? Now, who makes money in

1879
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 1: the first year of a company, a new company under

1880
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 1: a parent company, let alone some dudes who kind of

1881
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 1: looked up to me, I don't want to say they

1882
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 1: idolize me. They looked up to me as like, you know,

1883
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm an Asian. You know, um, I played ball, you know,

1884
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 1: I hang out with rappers and I do a lot

1885
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 1: of ship that not many. You know, start to what

1886
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 1: Asians do? You know? Before Gin and before anybody? You know,

1887
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:58,679
Speaker 1: my idols are Bruce Lee coming up. You know, there's

1888
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 1: no one else, And it's like it for me to

1889
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 1: look for anyone Asian. Now, to look up to anyone

1890
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 1: who's the new martial arts is a big deal right now,

1891
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,600
Speaker 1: I got you. So these dudes were doing weed illegally

1892
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 1: back in the day. Come to find out later these

1893
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:11,680
Speaker 1: guys own like fifty sixty million dollars in real estate.

1894
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 1: You know, they're killing it. It's cannabis wise and like, hey, listen,

1895
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 1: you gave us a shout out on one of one

1896
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 1: of our items, and I was like, okay, cool, you

1897
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 1: told me I want to show you love on my

1898
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 1: page and I got two million follows across my board,

1899
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 1: all verified, and he's like, bro, we got so many

1900
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 1: fucking emails after you did that. Would you ever want

1901
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 1: to do a partnership? You know? I get my attorney involved.

1902
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, listen, man, this is gonna be cutting dry.

1903
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 1: Let's get you in there. You're putting no money up front.

1904
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:37,599
Speaker 1: You're gonna push this brand. You're gonna be the mascot,

1905
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:39,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna be the brand ambassador and the face of

1906
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 1: the brand. And you're gonna own not well majority technically,

1907
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 1: but there's three partners and what I'm saying, whatever, but

1908
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 1: your own you know, altogether, they could go against you. Whatever.

1909
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 1: But boom. So three months into this cannabis company, I

1910
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 1: get a check and I'm like, come on, man. It

1911
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 1: wasn't the biggest check, but it was. It was a

1912
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:03,720
Speaker 1: car check. And I was like, all right, all right,

1913
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 1: this is crazy from we Yeah. Then I was like,

1914
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 1: all right, five months in boom then all of a sudden,

1915
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, high seven figure check. We're in the

1916
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 1: millions now, and I'm like, bro, it hasn't been a

1917
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:21,799
Speaker 1: year yet. What's the name of this company VVS VVS

1918
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 1: pens VVS, and I incorporated my jewelry. VVS is the

1919
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 1: highest clarity diamond underneath the flawless, flawless beaning like Jordan's

1920
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 1: lebron And why the funk they didn't say that? I

1921
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: hate that motherfucker got money. Jordan, Kobe and Maggie Johnson

1922
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 1: right right, bird too. Let's say they don't really exist.

1923
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 1: You know, even Russell Westbrook's a beast, right, but you

1924
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 1: might see another rest of you might not see another Kobe.

1925
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: And you know um VVS is pretty much Russell Westbrook,

1926
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, Kevin Durant something like that, the best there

1927
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 1: is but out being flawless, you know. So I incorporated

1928
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,240
Speaker 1: my jewelry into making these discrete brands. And I don't

1929
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: want to say it because I want put me on blast.

1930
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 1: But like you know, it's legal here. You're twenty one

1931
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 1: over and you can smoke anywhere. But still some people

1932
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 1: looking in a negative way. It's helped a lot of people.

1933
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 1: I've had so many people who family had cancers and

1934
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 1: they called me, hey, bank, give me some CBDCs, some pans, blah.

1935
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:21,879
Speaker 1: But we do all kinds of products, but our products

1936
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 1: look like jewelry. Our pens are like really shiny rolls,

1937
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 1: gold yellow goal. I banked off of being a jeweler

1938
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 1: and pushed these out. So at a certain point we

1939
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 1: started selling three thousand pens a day. My pens are

1940
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 1: forty to sixty bucks retail three thousand times listens. So

1941
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm moving over a hundred twenty five thousand pens a month. Now,

1942
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 1: if you do the numbers, you know you're talking about

1943
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 1: four or five million dollars retail a month. Okay, it's insane.

1944
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 1: And we haven't disguised the service because we just we

1945
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 1: launched Oregon next month because Oregon's also rec state. Right, Mike,

1946
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:58,560
Speaker 1: you don't understand when if Jeff Sessions, he gets to

1947
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 1: get his head out of his ass, right, because we've

1948
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 1: now created billions of dollars. This is our first year wreck.

1949
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 1: Colorado has been wreck. You know, Washington State has been wreck.

1950
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 1: We're going to Washington. Colorado. The first year they became wreck,

1951
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:15,520
Speaker 1: they raised a billion in taxes for the for the state. Okay,

1952
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:18,200
Speaker 1: we did a billion in the first month in California,

1953
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 1: Cana of Colorado and ship. Imagine how big California is. Right, So,

1954
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:23,679
Speaker 1: like Jeff Sessions is trying to funk with us. Trump

1955
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 1: is sunk with us. Bro I don't give a funk

1956
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 1: when anyone says it's not gonna they can't stop it.

1957
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 1: It's too big. California is too crazy, right. So with

1958
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:33,639
Speaker 1: that said, just recently, about a month ago, I heard

1959
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 1: that fifty state federally legal weed is about to happen,

1960
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 1: not as soon as five years. I hope I'm not

1961
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 1: in the game. In five years. I want to sell

1962
01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 1: my company. Ha ha ha ha. If this just to

1963
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: give you an idea what I'm talking about, if it

1964
01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 1: becomes federally legal, because I can't legally go to New

1965
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 1: York and sell my VVS pens. Oh no, I'm sorry,

1966
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:56,679
Speaker 1: that's illegal anyway. I can't go to New Jersey, which

1967
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 1: is a medicinally legal state, not re great. I can't

1968
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 1: go there and sell my pens because the cultivation, the extraction,

1969
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 1: and the factory of where the weed was grown was

1970
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 1: not in New Jersey state. I could only sell in California,

1971
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:11,160
Speaker 1: even though Nevada's neighboring state. They have it all sorts

1972
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 1: of rules and regulations. How it gets here and it

1973
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:16,600
Speaker 1: drives here is some crazy ship. If I drive to

1974
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 1: Oregon with the thing. Now I've done a federal it

1975
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 1: gets even though if I put the ready for this,

1976
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:26,639
Speaker 1: if I FedEx my mom in Santa Monica, a fucking

1977
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 1: a pen of mine using FedEx from from downtown l

1978
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:33,759
Speaker 1: A to Santa Monica, as soon as it touched the mail,

1979
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:37,920
Speaker 1: it becomes a federal offense. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1980
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 1: So what I'm getting at is when it becomes fifty

1981
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 1: state legal, my company be worth a quarterbillion dollars that

1982
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 1: next day, Damn literally, because that's how big weed is

1983
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 1: and it's getting bigger and bigger. And I got in

1984
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 1: at the perfect time. It took ten months to develop.

1985
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:54,599
Speaker 1: Then we finally launched. We launched the same time that

1986
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 1: right around when I came back in the game. And

1987
01:41:57,439 --> 01:41:59,759
Speaker 1: my son's godfather, one of my best friends of my life,

1988
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:02,680
Speaker 1: one of the biggest Knicks fans, I know, next to

1989
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:06,680
Speaker 1: you rest and bees Q world star Jamaica Queen's you know,

1990
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 1: he's my my firstborns godfather. Um, he would smoke upon

1991
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 1: a bunch of my pens, you know, and everything else.

1992
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 1: And like you know that company that the company I

1993
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 1: have right now, it's so big and it's my main

1994
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 1: source of income. That what how it's helped me and

1995
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 1: for anybody who's listening that's into business or wants to, like,

1996
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 1: if you're a celebrity, you're Austin Rivers, you're fucking Lonzo Ball,

1997
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. If you have a product that

1998
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:36,840
Speaker 1: you can market and it takes off, now you're able

1999
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:39,759
Speaker 1: to fucking not have to worry about like non jewelry.

2000
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 1: I don't have to fucking take this Mumble rappers money

2001
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:44,760
Speaker 1: and make a chain. I go tell him you fuck you,

2002
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 1: go funk yourself right. I'm not gonna make the fucking

2003
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 1: peace now. I could only focus on making the John

2004
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 1: Mayer's and fucking Kendrick Lamar's an adupe people right now.

2005
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 1: It's giving me less stress on my joy business. And

2006
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 1: because I'm making so much win in the cannabis, I

2007
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 1: can kind of be free on that and only do

2008
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:05,840
Speaker 1: cool ship right now. In the clothing brands, we can

2009
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:07,639
Speaker 1: be the cool brand. I don't have to go sell

2010
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 1: the Wallas. This what's the clothing brand. It's called superis

2011
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:13,719
Speaker 1: UM It's a kid's clothing line. Asap is the majority owner.

2012
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm a partner and UM I needed help I ain't

2013
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 1: gonna I have no shame, and he's like, you know,

2014
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 1: fashion guy. Even know a lot of people want to

2015
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 1: make fun of him, but Rocky's a cool dude. You know,

2016
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 1: shout shout the hard go to all those dudes because

2017
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:28,679
Speaker 1: they're all Harlem and by the way, and I knew

2018
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 1: d I knew. I knew firs father by the way. Yeah,

2019
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:33,000
Speaker 1: four father was a gangster and first uncle was a

2020
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 1: real like that for Dan. All the time, I knew

2021
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:36,760
Speaker 1: these dudes. Like when I saw him, I was like,

2022
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 1: do you know twelve crazy listen because of how old

2023
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,759
Speaker 1: I am and how I grew up and I played basketball,

2024
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 1: played slam and jam. I'm saying everything else the Pump

2025
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 1: Brothers fucking bro When he said Stacy Ogman's name, and

2026
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, what the fund do you

2027
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,759
Speaker 1: know about Stacy Agman? Because you know twelve is probably

2028
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 1: like so it's like Stacey. I grew up in Pasadena.

2029
01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 1: I remember we went to John Muir. Dude. We could

2030
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 1: go on and on about basketball, ship and jump all

2031
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 1: other place. But what I'm saying is that brand, Thank God,

2032
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna help me pay for my kids college and

2033
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 1: do things and just be able to, you know, do

2034
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 1: other cool things that I want to do. Now, now

2035
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 1: you know about all this fashion ship. You know you

2036
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 1: have a clothing line. You understand it. You're fresh to death.

2037
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 1: Explain to me why the fuck I drive down Fairfax.

2038
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 1: Let's say I have to go somewhere early in the morning. Okay,

2039
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:28,600
Speaker 1: I remember it was a Saturday. I had to go

2040
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 1: somewhere early in the morning. I don't remember why. It's

2041
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:33,760
Speaker 1: fucking six in the morning. It was misty. I see

2042
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:39,800
Speaker 1: three assholes. Assholes, it is fucking it's not even gonna

2043
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:44,720
Speaker 1: open until at least ten twelve. What the funk are

2044
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 1: they waiting there for the short The shirts are not

2045
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 1: but are soft? No disrespected Supreme. I've known those dudes

2046
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 1: in New York when it was just my fucking guys

2047
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:56,439
Speaker 1: might get justin Pierce Howard, London, like I used to

2048
01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 1: hang out at that place. No disrespect, make your money.

2049
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:03,360
Speaker 1: I just don't understand what they're selling, Like the shirts.

2050
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 1: You're not put hers off, you know, like I've tried

2051
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 1: to buy Supreme. This is it's a culture for what?

2052
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 1: For what? Okay, it's the same to me. It's the

2053
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 1: same reason you tweeted four years ago. I didn't even

2054
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 1: follow you. Then by the way you tweeted, you know

2055
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 1: what the funk is going on here, Kanye? How the

2056
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 1: fund does zac Efron have better seats than you have

2057
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 1: made in America? That same mentality of that culture is

2058
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:33,719
Speaker 1: this ship. These kids wait in line and you're ready

2059
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:35,760
Speaker 1: for this one. You're You're gonna fucking die when you

2060
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 1: hear this ship. It wasn't three D people, it was people,

2061
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 1: all right. It goes around all the way to high

2062
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,760
Speaker 1: Point going to fucking it was Hayworth, doesn't I don't

2063
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:47,400
Speaker 1: give if it was. If there was fucking rats on

2064
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:50,799
Speaker 1: the street, they're not going anywhere. Now. The first twenty

2065
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 1: people in line out of twenty fifteen of them are

2066
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:57,640
Speaker 1: being paid three five dollars to sit in line for

2067
01:45:57,680 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 1: someone else that's gonna go in there and buy extra

2068
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 1: it to resell. Are you allowed to do that? Like

2069
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 1: when they have those things? How does it work? Because like,

2070
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 1: what if the first person has a million dollars, let's

2071
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 1: just say it's a million, I'm gonna buy. No. No,

2072
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 1: as soon as you walk in the store, you have

2073
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 1: they cap you off so you can only buy a

2074
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:13,639
Speaker 1: certain amount of something. You can't just start. You get

2075
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 1: do they wear it? Is it to re sell? If

2076
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 1: you're a business person waiting outside? Well, I don't get it.

2077
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:22,639
Speaker 1: It's silly. Let me be honest with you. Well, actually

2078
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm not gonna say, because that's that snitching. Um.

2079
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,480
Speaker 1: It's a culture that me and you will never understand.

2080
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:31,760
Speaker 1: I understand because I'm in that business and you're not

2081
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:33,720
Speaker 1: gonna get it. And you, I know you don't want

2082
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 1: your kids doing that ship and I don't want my

2083
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 1: kids doing it. But you buy a T shirt for

2084
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 1: sixty bucks and you sell it for even a hund

2085
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 1: twenty to me and you, I don't care if you

2086
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 1: buy ten shirts and did that waiting line and wasting

2087
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 1: your life away and sitting there. Now. The reason why

2088
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 1: I don't like it is because what's the first question

2089
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 1: I asked? How do you go to the bathroom at

2090
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 1: three in the morning? How do you go to the

2091
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 1: bathroom one day? Do you remember me and you have

2092
01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:00,160
Speaker 1: the same ship? Right, So my mind thinks immediately, you know,

2093
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:02,880
Speaker 1: where are you gonna shot? We're gonna do this around

2094
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:05,760
Speaker 1: the corner regardless you know Canner's is you know, like

2095
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:07,320
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I grew up here, dude. So

2096
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 1: you know, the block is a mess. Now I try

2097
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 1: to avoid it. You know, I never consider myself a celebrity.

2098
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:15,720
Speaker 1: I don't come to myself selecting. Now. I can't walk

2099
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:17,720
Speaker 1: through the airport in any city. I could be in

2100
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 1: fucking St. Louis and I get stopped thirty times in

2101
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 1: the airport. I get stopped on Fairfax. That that's my

2102
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,880
Speaker 1: demographic now, which is sad. I go down there, I

2103
01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 1: get mobbed by hum Fairfax. Yeah, you're like one of

2104
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 1: the mr faas. They're doing a story and complex and

2105
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 1: I'm like one of the guys that they like featured

2106
01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 1: on the story and like, for instance, me and Tyler

2107
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 1: met there to go to John and Vinians because god,

2108
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:38,759
Speaker 1: big John vinis okay. First of all, its two places

2109
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 1: on that's out of control. John and Vinia is great.

2110
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 1: Golden State is the best fucking burger and all next

2111
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 1: to Father's office. But I can't eat, so they have

2112
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 1: a chicken sandwich that's flames and Golden State. It's just

2113
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 1: a great business. You know, I want to support you know,

2114
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 1: local shoot. I went to High School of Fairfax, right,

2115
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 1: so going to Fairfax as a ship show and the

2116
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:57,680
Speaker 1: funked up part about it is the game now is

2117
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 1: everyone supremea something? And then everyone the block does the

2118
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 1: same kind of ship or it's similar, and it's like

2119
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:04,840
Speaker 1: all these kids are winning in line and it's just

2120
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 1: like and the crazy part is Tyler finally opened his

2121
01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:11,200
Speaker 1: real flagship store, dialing across the street, across the streets,

2122
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:14,880
Speaker 1: so South Oakwood between Oakwood and across the streets right there,

2123
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 1: and there's five d kids waiting in line for Tyler Ship. Now,

2124
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 1: the thing is, I don't get it. It's I don't

2125
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 1: but I mean, who am I to get? It doesn't matter,

2126
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 1: it just I just don't understand. I don't mean get it.

2127
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 1: Let me explain something too quick because you maybe google,

2128
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 1: maybe you didn't. I don't know what you researched on,

2129
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 1: so let me explain something too quick. It all derived

2130
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 1: from the sneaker culture. I'm a huge sneaker head. I

2131
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 1: don't know. You know Clark can't Clark so Greg Street. See,

2132
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 1: I only met I met Clark Kent like mid nineties

2133
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 1: during the How can I be down this? I mean

2134
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:48,599
Speaker 1: got the music or basketball it was, but like people

2135
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 1: O g s like, do you know what dude named

2136
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 1: m's you know DJ ms Okay MS O G sneaker head.

2137
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:56,680
Speaker 1: There's a dude named air rev Um d J A M.

2138
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:59,280
Speaker 1: You know, the sneaker culture was really cool, dude, Like

2139
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 1: people honestly say the truth. I could have seen you

2140
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 1: in here in this in this form right. Kanye was

2141
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 1: in there. You know. UM a lot of O G.

2142
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:09,040
Speaker 1: Kofedio artists stashed, you know, cool peop from New York whatever.

2143
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 1: And it was this place called Nike Talk, and it

2144
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:15,360
Speaker 1: started like the whole supreme all this ship like Nikes

2145
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:18,960
Speaker 1: everything whatever. In two thousand four, I had been working

2146
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:21,800
Speaker 1: with Nike since like two thousand one. They fucked me

2147
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:23,559
Speaker 1: on the corporate They pulled out like listen, you got

2148
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:25,000
Speaker 1: the little dick, I got the big dick. We're gonna

2149
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:27,720
Speaker 1: suck you like and like my relationship with like he's

2150
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 1: good now. But for a while, I didn't wear Nike

2151
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:32,479
Speaker 1: for nine years. I just said fun this because I

2152
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:37,000
Speaker 1: was so so butt heard about it, pun intended. I

2153
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 1: sold my sneaker collection in two thousand four. Now I

2154
01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 1: want to ask you you you had you had a

2155
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 1: sneaker collection that you sold for one point what two

2156
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:48,439
Speaker 1: point three million dollars two point three million dollars worth

2157
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 1: of sneakers like that was that? How many boxes of

2158
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 1: sneakers is this? Okay, do you know who the You

2159
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 1: know who Mayor is. He's one of Clark Kent's really

2160
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 1: good friends. Okay, Mayor right now has more shoes than

2161
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:01,600
Speaker 1: I had then. But when I sold my collection and

2162
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 1: began to sell my collection, and these are your sinkers,

2163
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 1: so they're all the same size. Everything was between ten

2164
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:09,639
Speaker 1: and eleven, right, Okay, but so you bought them for you, yes,

2165
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:12,679
Speaker 1: and you just accumubly got so bad to the point where, okay,

2166
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:15,560
Speaker 1: me Am, if you watch the dj M documentary, you

2167
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 1: see I'm in that. You know I'm in the movie.

2168
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 1: I was a big part of his life, or you

2169
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 1: know that one aspect of DJing and and and and

2170
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:24,680
Speaker 1: shoes me dj AM and homicide shot crew called the

2171
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 1: air Max Crew. There was a dude from from from

2172
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 1: Fairfax High School. His name was hit Man. He wrote

2173
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 1: of Dr Dre two thousand one's album right, he had

2174
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:35,360
Speaker 1: the song act right, he was hit Man to tease. Right,

2175
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:38,000
Speaker 1: He's a real gangster dude from fromhim. And I was

2176
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 1: Hitman's DJ as well. On top of that, being from Fairfax.

2177
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:44,519
Speaker 1: So he had a crew called the air Max Crew

2178
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 1: m A c K S like Willie Hutch The Max movie,

2179
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,559
Speaker 1: The Mac so like you know, Max Julian the mag

2180
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying, so like we were the air

2181
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 1: Max Crew got djm shoes was was the air Max

2182
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 1: m a X his favorite, So we just kind of

2183
01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 1: played it off the crew. So we created a sneaker

2184
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 1: crew and we're doing appearances and shin every thing else.

2185
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 1: So it got to a point where like Homicide was

2186
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 1: already super famous because he was in the band Sugar Ray.

2187
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 1: He had like platinum platinum heads he joined. He's like, man,

2188
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:12,759
Speaker 1: he's like listen, fuck hip hop, Fuck all you dudes,

2189
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump in his rock and roll music and

2190
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 1: get this pop check. And dude, the other day Apple

2191
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 1: Music sent them a check because like that song fly

2192
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 1: by Sugar Ray is still like getting you go on

2193
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 1: the Vegas casinos. You hear, it's still he still gets residuals.

2194
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 1: So going on, and a lot of people don't know

2195
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:30,280
Speaker 1: that DJ Homicide was the original member of the Alcoholics.

2196
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:34,719
Speaker 1: Going on. If you listen to Biggie's mixtape, his mixtape

2197
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 1: when he's rapping over all the West Coast beats. He

2198
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 1: shouts out DJ Homicide like the third name. You know,

2199
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:41,360
Speaker 1: this is my brother. Still to this day, you and

2200
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 1: him would love each other, except he hates the fucking knicks.

2201
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:45,720
Speaker 1: Him and q will Star would fight every day. Him

2202
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 1: and Dante Ross get into it. Actually Dante like someone else.

2203
01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 1: And anyways, going on, Um, I sold my sneakers right

2204
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 1: and at a certain point, but jj Am sold his

2205
01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 1: sneakers too, for a shipload of money. But after he died, though,

2206
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:01,480
Speaker 1: they sold it and went to his foundation. So Homicide

2207
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:04,600
Speaker 1: had two pairs of shoes around two thousand one. I

2208
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 1: had maybe like ninety, and then I got to a hundred,

2209
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 1: and my mom saying, hey, you know what, people are

2210
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 1: gonna start thinking, you know, they're a little weird. And

2211
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:13,320
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, mom, don't worry about you know,

2212
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:15,519
Speaker 1: this is this like I love shoes, you know, and

2213
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't even wearing. She was I was getting I

2214
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't wear shoesless I were had toothpree pairs, so you'd

2215
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 1: buy a pair, and we don't wear unless I had

2216
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 1: a second pair of third pair. So then Clark Camp

2217
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:27,559
Speaker 1: be like, hey, um, you look you got a little

2218
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:29,240
Speaker 1: small bitch feet. You know what I'm saying, because if

2219
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 1: you was a motherfucking size thirteen, blah blah blah, I'm like, listen,

2220
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 1: go fund yourself whatever you know, and we have this

2221
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:36,080
Speaker 1: battle all between. This is when in semester was aroundmber

2222
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 1: Aim and we go find each other's animes. I got

2223
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:42,600
Speaker 1: around two three pairs a year later, then when I

2224
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:46,320
Speaker 1: got to five hundred pairs of all dope, like collectible

2225
01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:49,559
Speaker 1: fresh ship going to Tokyo, going Philly, We're flying, everyone's

2226
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:54,679
Speaker 1: going to Florida trying to find stores that had fucking

2227
01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 1: George Girvan posters on the wall and be like, yo,

2228
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 1: you know I got some in here because this fucking

2229
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 1: Korean A d hasn't even taken a fucking ice man dude.

2230
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 1: So you know what I say, Right, here's a cash

2231
01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 1: rubber band stacked ten grant. I'm like, can I go

2232
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 1: into your stock room? And they're like no, no, no.

2233
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:14,400
Speaker 1: At a certain while you figure out how to way

2234
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:16,160
Speaker 1: to get in there, and I'm like, what are you

2235
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 1: doing with this? She goes, I don't know. I sell Nick,

2236
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 1: you say I have to buy this, this and this.

2237
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, where is the old ship. And these

2238
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:24,799
Speaker 1: people would drive me down the street to a storage

2239
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 1: unit and I'm like, you gotta be funny kidding me,

2240
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 1: And that's where you'd find the gold. Dude like air trainers,

2241
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 1: airbas vandals, like ship like John McEnroe, s like just

2242
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:36,080
Speaker 1: insane ship. So I start buying, start buying people's collections

2243
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 1: and started doing certain things. Um around two thousand and four,

2244
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:44,400
Speaker 1: I accumulated I had a Fourbenno apartment. There's no such

2245
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:46,120
Speaker 1: sea as a fourbetto apartment. I had a three apart

2246
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 1: with the lost in Sherman Oaks, California. I hate the valley,

2247
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:51,920
Speaker 1: but I had nowhere else to go because I had to.

2248
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:55,559
Speaker 1: I was dejaying and I was sneakers sneakers. I wasn't

2249
01:53:55,560 --> 01:53:58,840
Speaker 1: the music business anymore. Technically, I was just djaying, but

2250
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:00,240
Speaker 1: I was making so much many as a d J,

2251
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 1: you know that I was. I was able to afford

2252
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 1: my habit. So I got up to eight pairs personal pairs,

2253
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:09,720
Speaker 1: four bedroom, stocked up stock rooms. I had to go

2254
01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 1: home deep and get shelving and make this ship. And

2255
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 1: the girl I was engaged to at the time, she

2256
01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 1: was like, I ain't gonna lie to you, man, you're

2257
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 1: fucking goofy as fuck, like you're really like you're you're

2258
01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 1: fucking weirdo. Yeah, because like say, for instance, one time

2259
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 1: she thought it would be cute, like she put on

2260
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 1: a lingerie and she was a model by the way,

2261
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:27,919
Speaker 1: as it goes, a supermodel. She went on a lingerie

2262
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 1: and wore a really expensive pair of shoes of mine

2263
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:31,599
Speaker 1: at the time, there are five thousand lot pair of sneakers,

2264
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,160
Speaker 1: and I went fucking I got livid. How went crazy

2265
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 1: on it? She goes, most guys would have took me

2266
01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 1: on the couch and or bed and fucking you know,

2267
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 1: try to ravish me or whatever. I was like, no, no,

2268
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 1: you put your feet in the shoes, right, I mean

2269
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I just you know, I was able to.

2270
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 1: You know, there's tricks and ship that you can do.

2271
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 1: So going on Nike puts it to bad taste in

2272
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 1: my mouth, in my shoes with Nikes. I sold my

2273
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 1: collection off and you sold it to one person, some

2274
01:54:56,720 --> 01:55:00,160
Speaker 1: dude named Stephen end up winning the auction on a bay.

2275
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 1: He won two auctions that did separate, and then a

2276
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:06,680
Speaker 1: whole other side that was six hundred pairs got shipped

2277
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 1: to Yokohama, Japan, because Japan is the mecca street where

2278
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:11,840
Speaker 1: sneakers and everything they care. They have everything vintage. So

2279
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:14,440
Speaker 1: somebody bought them in bulk to sell them off over there. Yeah,

2280
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 1: I sold them in three different ways. So so what

2281
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying, uh oh, these assholes are waiting online. I'm

2282
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:22,240
Speaker 1: the asshole because they could wind up buying a pair

2283
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:25,440
Speaker 1: of these sneakers if they're really about about about it

2284
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:27,640
Speaker 1: or or is it this is the market? Is the

2285
01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:32,040
Speaker 1: sneaker market too oversaturated or is there the sneaker game

2286
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:34,480
Speaker 1: right now is fucked up. It's been fucked up for

2287
01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:38,960
Speaker 1: a long time. But the way to win is paying

2288
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 1: people to wait in line so you're not waiting on

2289
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 1: line anymore, having multiple people so you could have multiple

2290
01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 1: ship inside your store or business or online store whatever

2291
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 1: it may be, and buying people's collections out and another thing,

2292
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 1: and it are worth money. Okay, for instance, this shoe

2293
01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 1: came out to or three months ago? What is your shoe?

2294
01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:59,720
Speaker 1: These are the George Air Jordan one off whites. These

2295
01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 1: were are two hundred or to fifty or somewhere on

2296
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:06,000
Speaker 1: their retail to buy. Yes, these are three thousand dollars now,

2297
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:08,000
Speaker 1: and I think they're eighteen. Even if you warm or

2298
01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 1: no now warn in this condition, I'd say I could

2299
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 1: probably get two grand form. So are you ready for this?

2300
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:17,960
Speaker 1: You're ready for this now? As of about six years ago,

2301
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 1: the used sneaker game is now thirty forty or maybe

2302
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 1: forty of the sneaker game. Because people want to wear

2303
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 1: their shoes. They stoll like, hey, listen, I don't give

2304
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 1: a funk. Some people are like, I'm wearing no motherfuckering

2305
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:31,760
Speaker 1: you shoot, but dude, people are like, if you can't

2306
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:35,200
Speaker 1: get a pair of shoes, you know, boom these fucking sneakers.

2307
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:37,600
Speaker 1: And I mean this is when I was like, I mean,

2308
01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 1: it's got like an instruction kit. It's got all kinds

2309
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:44,240
Speaker 1: of fun, I know, But what the funk? Man, I mean,

2310
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:48,560
Speaker 1: it's a crazy thing. You're a dad. I'm a dad.

2311
01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 1: My son's rocking three sneakers, my younger son who's four

2312
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 1: years old, and it's like, you know, at this point,

2313
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, man, But a lot of people

2314
01:56:56,880 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 1: give me stuff, you know. So now, like, for instance,

2315
01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: I remember when Kanye wasn't even deep into sneakers like that,

2316
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? He was fucking with

2317
01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 1: am really heavy though he fussed with djamn and you

2318
01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:10,040
Speaker 1: know that was love and um, you know, uh, there's

2319
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 1: a lot of things I can't talk about. And I

2320
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:13,240
Speaker 1: heard you, but you've said enough already and I really

2321
01:57:13,240 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 1: agree on and we're like, yo, listen, my man, where

2322
01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:17,840
Speaker 1: does where? Where the music at? My guy? You know,

2323
01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:20,520
Speaker 1: he just like I'm not coming to you for like

2324
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:23,680
Speaker 1: I like, you're you're so off the fucking rails like

2325
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 1: so last week I got rid of all my easies,

2326
01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:29,880
Speaker 1: did you? And at out of a sort of protest,

2327
01:57:30,160 --> 01:57:33,000
Speaker 1: not a protest. I've been cool with his wife and

2328
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 1: everyone in their family. We went through a really bad battle.

2329
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:36,960
Speaker 1: They've never done me wrong. I've known him because I'm

2330
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 1: from l A and I known them. They're cool and everything.

2331
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:43,720
Speaker 1: But there's certain things that if I feel like me

2332
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,480
Speaker 1: because I'm at his age, the younger kids understand, but

2333
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:51,000
Speaker 1: me allowing it and in business and doing certain business

2334
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:54,600
Speaker 1: with them and whatever, and just certain things. And he's

2335
01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:58,160
Speaker 1: gotten now nine figure checks from his everything else like

2336
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:02,360
Speaker 1: a bra You've done well and cool now, you know what, man, bro,

2337
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could really funk with you,

2338
01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 1: gonna wrong with you like that, and you know, it's

2339
01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:08,240
Speaker 1: tough because there's people that I love that work with

2340
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:11,000
Speaker 1: them everything else. And I haven't been vocal about it.

2341
01:58:11,040 --> 01:58:12,800
Speaker 1: This is the first time I spoke about it. Um.

2342
01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 1: I had asked my attorney what I could say and

2343
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:16,680
Speaker 1: what I couldn't say in certain things whatever. And I'm

2344
01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:18,880
Speaker 1: sure now for even this little bit of whatever of

2345
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:22,000
Speaker 1: my own personal opinion, I'm sure now a lot of

2346
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:25,520
Speaker 1: the family members that he's married won't speak to me anymore.

2347
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 1: And that's fine and everything, because you know what you

2348
01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:31,200
Speaker 1: can't say ship like that, dude, and you know, and

2349
01:58:31,200 --> 01:58:33,400
Speaker 1: and also they just like, oh, we love it. We'll

2350
01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 1: just let him. He kind of like, I'm worried about that.

2351
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:43,000
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I've gotten checks with with Adidas. Dude.

2352
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 1: Do you know how much of honor it is when

2353
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 1: you told me that you went to the New Orleans

2354
01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:49,920
Speaker 1: Saints and you went to go see the practice and

2355
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:51,680
Speaker 1: anything else, right, and you know you do certain things.

2356
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 1: Bro funk with you, man. Listen, Mike, you have to

2357
01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 1: understand this. If you ask anybody who knows me, out

2358
01:58:56,640 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 1: of my maybe seven friends, I hate everyone. I don't

2359
01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 1: like anybody. I don't like any shows I'm a weird dude.

2360
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't like Oh, I like fucking straight, fuck stranger things,

2361
01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:08,040
Speaker 1: funk that show. I don't like anything. Dog, You've been

2362
01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:10,400
Speaker 1: one of the only things that keeps me on the plane,

2363
01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 1: saying and like I'll laugh and everything. So like that

2364
01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:15,920
Speaker 1: was a big one for you. How about getting a

2365
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:19,280
Speaker 1: phone call and someone saying, hey, man, this is Derrick Rose. Man.

2366
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I'm choosing four celebrities to be in my

2367
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:24,760
Speaker 1: global campaign for my comeback for Adidas, and I want

2368
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:27,040
Speaker 1: you to be in my commercial. I'm like, why the funk?

2369
01:59:27,080 --> 01:59:29,120
Speaker 1: Would you know who I am? He's like, dude, you

2370
01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:31,200
Speaker 1: like speak to the culture, like this cool jeweler dude,

2371
01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 1: and you know whatever. So we had two chains. He

2372
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:35,320
Speaker 1: had Big Sean and common right, he had do what whatever?

2373
01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:39,960
Speaker 1: And then there's like a multimillion dollar commercial the doodoo directed.

2374
01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:41,760
Speaker 1: It was a guy who did all the penny hardaway commercials.

2375
01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:45,080
Speaker 1: I forgot his name, Stacy something huge director, big dude.

2376
01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:47,680
Speaker 1: He did all the air penny commercials. You know, like

2377
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:49,480
Speaker 1: he actually did a couple of um he might have

2378
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:54,240
Speaker 1: did some joining commercials too, and um, Derreck Rose. You know,

2379
01:59:54,240 --> 01:59:55,800
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, boom, I get a big check

2380
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:57,920
Speaker 1: from being in this commercial and then I end up

2381
01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:00,840
Speaker 1: doing like global campaigns with Adidas, and it's like I

2382
02:00:00,880 --> 02:00:02,960
Speaker 1: know that they employ him, and I funk with Drake

2383
02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:04,720
Speaker 1: and I know you don't, but that's my man, and like,

2384
02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:07,280
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't want to funk that up,

2385
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:10,240
Speaker 1: but so be it. Like Dog, you can't like will

2386
02:00:10,280 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 1: I am. I think what he said was deeper than anybody,

2387
02:00:13,400 --> 02:00:15,680
Speaker 1: and we really will have been friends this twenty five years.

2388
02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:19,600
Speaker 1: I did the Black Eyed Piece first demo tape. Damn okay,

2389
02:00:19,720 --> 02:00:21,960
Speaker 1: I did their demo tape. Dog. He was signing my boy.

2390
02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:25,200
Speaker 1: Terry Heller's left another another another Jew. Fellow Jew shout

2391
02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:29,200
Speaker 1: out to Terry. Yes, nephew, but Son pretty much is

2392
02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:32,040
Speaker 1: the only one. Terry is my my man. His store

2393
02:00:32,200 --> 02:00:34,520
Speaker 1: on Fairfax is right across from Golf from Talist. He's

2394
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:37,280
Speaker 1: got a store. It's it's called plan Check. It's a bar, restaurant,

2395
02:00:37,280 --> 02:00:41,560
Speaker 1: book place. So Terry one of the trudest, smartest dude.

2396
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:44,120
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, you can't ever funk with Jews on business.

2397
02:00:44,120 --> 02:00:48,000
Speaker 1: There's they're too good, you know, So going on, you

2398
02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:49,560
Speaker 1: know you don't have a Jewish attorney, man, You know

2399
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:52,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you don't having fucking so Jew doctor. No.

2400
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:55,440
Speaker 1: I funk with Jew doctors like no offense. I funk

2401
02:00:55,480 --> 02:00:57,000
Speaker 1: with the Eastern medicine. I fun with it. I funk

2402
02:00:57,040 --> 02:00:59,360
Speaker 1: with the Chinese and a Korean doctor. That's not bad.

2403
02:00:59,480 --> 02:01:05,320
Speaker 1: But going on, what I'm getting at is I can't

2404
02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:09,400
Speaker 1: let that rock and I pretty much what I'm trying

2405
02:01:09,440 --> 02:01:12,560
Speaker 1: to get at is she's coming to the game. I'm

2406
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:15,160
Speaker 1: not mad at being a celebrity. Cool you know came

2407
02:01:15,200 --> 02:01:17,640
Speaker 1: in the game. He killed it. He's made a lot

2408
02:01:17,680 --> 02:01:20,560
Speaker 1: of money in the sneakers. I have in fact checked it.

2409
02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:22,720
Speaker 1: But I'd be willing to bet my entire net worth,

2410
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:24,840
Speaker 1: which is not pennies, that he did not make more

2411
02:01:25,080 --> 02:01:27,320
Speaker 1: than Michael Jordan and Jordan Brand. I'm sorry I refused

2412
02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:29,400
Speaker 1: to feel that because I know some numbers, right, but

2413
02:01:29,480 --> 02:01:34,560
Speaker 1: he did some numbers my hemembers. Yes, But I rock

2414
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:39,200
Speaker 1: with him until that part. And I understand you and

2415
02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:40,920
Speaker 1: Gene Moody were like yo boom, by the way, man,

2416
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:42,560
Speaker 1: I love I want to meet this. I love this.

2417
02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:45,880
Speaker 1: That motherfucker did not dunk and that ship was not Alley.

2418
02:01:46,160 --> 02:01:48,160
Speaker 1: That ship wasn't Say it again, Say it again, Gene

2419
02:01:48,200 --> 02:01:50,800
Speaker 1: Moody did not dunk. That wasn't even that wasn't even

2420
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:53,760
Speaker 1: a fingernail alley you bro, he that wasn't even a

2421
02:01:53,800 --> 02:01:59,000
Speaker 1: tip dunk. It was a coincidentally, you're he hit the

2422
02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:01,800
Speaker 1: ring like three different things happened, but his hand wasn't

2423
02:02:01,840 --> 02:02:04,680
Speaker 1: touching the ball when it went in right, And I

2424
02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:07,880
Speaker 1: can't wait to hit the backboard to the videotape and said, like,

2425
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:11,920
Speaker 1: there's some Prouder tape that apparently is out there. There's

2426
02:02:12,120 --> 02:02:15,120
Speaker 1: there's some tape, some sixteen millimeter tape that's out there

2427
02:02:15,120 --> 02:02:18,000
Speaker 1: that's floating around. Now. I've gathered the young culture, and

2428
02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:19,800
Speaker 1: I've gathered a lot in last week and I should

2429
02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:21,800
Speaker 1: have spent I never I didn't lose any sleep, but

2430
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:23,720
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have spent that much time. It just bothered

2431
02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:26,840
Speaker 1: me so much that what will I Am said made

2432
02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:28,960
Speaker 1: me feel a lot better. And I know that g

2433
02:02:29,160 --> 02:02:31,640
Speaker 1: Moody was like, well, no, listen, you know, um, when

2434
02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:33,680
Speaker 1: you got this many slaves gathering, you know, boom this

2435
02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:36,200
Speaker 1: year and it's been taliable, Okay. I got June Moodies

2436
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:41,280
Speaker 1: interpretation of what Yeah had said. Bro, no dog at

2437
02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:43,760
Speaker 1: the end of the day, No dog, No you did

2438
02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:45,760
Speaker 1: you sell them off for you? Guy? Are they worth money?

2439
02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:48,720
Speaker 1: His sneakers? Oh yeah, hell yeah, Bro, there's a pair

2440
02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:52,640
Speaker 1: of his sneakers that were going for because how many

2441
02:02:52,680 --> 02:02:55,280
Speaker 1: of them were made. Okay, you're ready for this. You

2442
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:57,240
Speaker 1: know that one. There's only one. There's only one, not

2443
02:02:57,360 --> 02:02:59,640
Speaker 1: one shoe. But now the crazy part about the Yea

2444
02:02:59,680 --> 02:03:03,760
Speaker 1: ship is that he knows now that. Okay, let me

2445
02:03:03,800 --> 02:03:05,800
Speaker 1: break this down for you. Um, do you own any

2446
02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:07,600
Speaker 1: pair of Jordan's anything? You have a pair of Jordan's?

2447
02:03:07,640 --> 02:03:09,160
Speaker 1: I got a pair of I gotta pair, but not

2448
02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:12,080
Speaker 1: no fancy ship. Okay, Let's say, for instance, a pretty

2449
02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:16,520
Speaker 1: rare pair Jordan's. They're gonna be about thousand pairs made worldwide,

2450
02:03:17,600 --> 02:03:20,160
Speaker 1: A rare pair, ra pair, and they're gonna sell out crazy.

2451
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:23,240
Speaker 1: I helped design one of the biggest shoes of last

2452
02:03:23,320 --> 02:03:25,920
Speaker 1: year and this year, which was there are Rainbow Corduroy

2453
02:03:26,240 --> 02:03:29,000
Speaker 1: air Max nineties seven that we hybrided into an air

2454
02:03:29,080 --> 02:03:31,600
Speaker 1: Max one Sean with U s Boo, my boy do

2455
02:03:31,720 --> 02:03:35,480
Speaker 1: it Virginia nicest guy Vegan Dude. I helped design the

2456
02:03:35,480 --> 02:03:38,680
Speaker 1: whole shoot right with him. Right, they made a hundred

2457
02:03:38,840 --> 02:03:42,200
Speaker 1: seventy five thousand pairs. At that many pairs, I said, Bro,

2458
02:03:42,680 --> 02:03:45,640
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna get a pair and we're good. They sold

2459
02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:49,760
Speaker 1: out so fucking fast. People are fucking going crazy. Riots happened,

2460
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:52,520
Speaker 1: people breaking glasses and ship I'm like, yo, there's enough

2461
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:54,520
Speaker 1: to go around. Now. This is how crazy it is.

2462
02:03:55,120 --> 02:03:57,240
Speaker 1: Some brure shoes and a fifty thou pairs. Back in

2463
02:03:57,320 --> 02:03:59,720
Speaker 1: the day, a rare shoe was a thousand pairs, which

2464
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:02,760
Speaker 1: is extremely rare. So now when people do a thousand

2465
02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:05,200
Speaker 1: pair of run, five thousand pair run, it's like blood

2466
02:04:05,240 --> 02:04:07,480
Speaker 1: and you see those thousand people waiting outside Supreme to

2467
02:04:07,600 --> 02:04:10,240
Speaker 1: get the new Supreme, Dungle Gold, whatever, and it gets vicious.

2468
02:04:10,240 --> 02:04:14,440
Speaker 1: It gets bad. Now Kanye is making a hundred hundred

2469
02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:18,040
Speaker 1: fifty pairs and they're selling out fast and sometimes not

2470
02:04:18,160 --> 02:04:20,760
Speaker 1: selling out as fast because because people are like yo,

2471
02:04:21,120 --> 02:04:23,600
Speaker 1: they're thinking it's the original, like twenty thousand pairs or

2472
02:04:23,640 --> 02:04:25,440
Speaker 1: twenty five. Now it's like, you know, there's more people

2473
02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:26,640
Speaker 1: I want to get them. And now people are getting

2474
02:04:26,680 --> 02:04:29,200
Speaker 1: him there wondering like, hey man, you know I was

2475
02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:31,560
Speaker 1: able to get him this time, and they feel good

2476
02:04:31,560 --> 02:04:33,840
Speaker 1: about themselves, right. They don't realize that, yo, bro. The

2477
02:04:33,880 --> 02:04:35,800
Speaker 1: reason why you're able to get him. He's making ship

2478
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:39,640
Speaker 1: tons more and he's murdering the game. He's like, yo, dude, retail,

2479
02:04:39,680 --> 02:04:42,600
Speaker 1: he has the highest retail. Shoot. You know what I'm saying, like, like, listen,

2480
02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:47,120
Speaker 1: fuck those a Lonzo Balls shoes. Bro, I'm never gonna

2481
02:04:47,360 --> 02:04:51,640
Speaker 1: buy a pair the fucking bbbs those ship that's your guys,

2482
02:04:51,680 --> 02:04:54,880
Speaker 1: a Laker and you see funding Jayson Tatum, he's still

2483
02:04:54,960 --> 02:04:58,120
Speaker 1: playing Alonzo Balls, working on his fucking waves right now. Bro,

2484
02:04:58,360 --> 02:05:00,840
Speaker 1: that's what he's doing. Listen, Chino Hills is not Los

2485
02:05:00,920 --> 02:05:02,960
Speaker 1: Angeles to me, bro, So, I don't care regardless. I

2486
02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:05,960
Speaker 1: know he's a Laker, and I owned five Laker Championship rings,

2487
02:05:06,120 --> 02:05:09,040
Speaker 1: real ones, front office rings. I bought an auctions almost.

2488
02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:12,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna wear him today, sky Bro, I got

2489
02:05:13,640 --> 02:05:16,680
Speaker 1: all right, I got fucking so these are players rings

2490
02:05:16,720 --> 02:05:19,000
Speaker 1: are front like front office. Okay, so it could have

2491
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:22,080
Speaker 1: been like a GM or yeah, you know what, Trevor

2492
02:05:22,200 --> 02:05:25,240
Speaker 1: reasons house got broken into and his rings got got

2493
02:05:25,320 --> 02:05:28,720
Speaker 1: taken the oh nine back back then, my boy Jason

2494
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:31,560
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills made those and it's crazy because those rings

2495
02:05:31,600 --> 02:05:34,879
Speaker 1: were floating around somewhere. Me and Trevor Reads are neighbors

2496
02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:37,440
Speaker 1: were neighbors, and I said, you know what, if I

2497
02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:41,360
Speaker 1: found him, I couldn't do that because even Donald funk

2498
02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:43,000
Speaker 1: with him because he's on a different team. I'll funk

2499
02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:45,720
Speaker 1: with him because two things. One he rocks with brand.

2500
02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:47,960
Speaker 1: He it's his ring. And if that's dog, you can't

2501
02:05:48,160 --> 02:05:51,120
Speaker 1: you can't put a price on that. Hell, do you

2502
02:05:51,120 --> 02:05:53,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Like, Okay, I had lunch with

2503
02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:58,600
Speaker 1: Nick Nick to truroll last week, right a Yankees ring

2504
02:05:59,080 --> 02:06:01,960
Speaker 1: went up. I forgot what year, but the thing is

2505
02:06:02,080 --> 02:06:05,160
Speaker 1: they won so many fucking championships I don't know, and

2506
02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:07,520
Speaker 1: that ring went up, and I remember this dude said

2507
02:06:07,520 --> 02:06:09,200
Speaker 1: you I got ten I'll take ten thousand four and

2508
02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:11,360
Speaker 1: I was like ten thousand. I gave him ten thousand

2509
02:06:11,440 --> 02:06:13,480
Speaker 1: for it. I took it. You got the ring. And

2510
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:16,640
Speaker 1: then I realized, man, this was that was a really

2511
02:06:16,720 --> 02:06:18,600
Speaker 1: bad thing. Dude. You go to auction house, you know

2512
02:06:18,720 --> 02:06:21,240
Speaker 1: that there's you know, there's verifications, this can be taken back.

2513
02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:23,480
Speaker 1: But I bought this on the street just because of

2514
02:06:23,560 --> 02:06:26,800
Speaker 1: the championship ring. And I said, damn man. So I

2515
02:06:26,920 --> 02:06:31,480
Speaker 1: found some another which will remain unnamed, psychopath Yankee fan.

2516
02:06:31,800 --> 02:06:33,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of that. You guys, you guys, Nick

2517
02:06:34,080 --> 02:06:37,640
Speaker 1: is the craziest, the craziest I've ever met. Beyond this

2518
02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:40,360
Speaker 1: dude is crazy too. There's other ones that are crazier

2519
02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:43,400
Speaker 1: because they're actually crazy. But as far as the same

2520
02:06:43,600 --> 02:06:46,800
Speaker 1: New York Yankees fan, who's who's do you realize bably

2521
02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:50,240
Speaker 1: saying he's the craziest Yankee, you realize he knows people

2522
02:06:50,360 --> 02:06:54,040
Speaker 1: are b a r B. I s from from he

2523
02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:56,600
Speaker 1: ran on the field. You talk about that. I didn't

2524
02:06:56,600 --> 02:06:58,640
Speaker 1: know that you know he ran on the field when

2525
02:06:58,680 --> 02:07:01,400
Speaker 1: I think when, uh, he'll tell you, Like in seventy

2526
02:07:01,480 --> 02:07:03,960
Speaker 1: eight he's he's on the field in the photo he's

2527
02:07:03,960 --> 02:07:06,320
Speaker 1: like in a red jacket. What I'm saying like the

2528
02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:09,320
Speaker 1: thirteenth player who wasn't even like like in the batting cage.

2529
02:07:09,400 --> 02:07:13,640
Speaker 1: He knew his RBI. He should charge people like like

2530
02:07:13,880 --> 02:07:17,360
Speaker 1: like a tourist attraction. Nick Tturro could make money to

2531
02:07:17,640 --> 02:07:21,880
Speaker 1: charge other fans to watch him watch a game. You

2532
02:07:21,920 --> 02:07:25,000
Speaker 1: don't even have to watch him on a live show

2533
02:07:25,240 --> 02:07:26,720
Speaker 1: like it should be like you know, like like a

2534
02:07:26,760 --> 02:07:29,280
Speaker 1: one man show, like like somebody does a woman show

2535
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:31,280
Speaker 1: on Bro. You like he could have an audience of

2536
02:07:31,320 --> 02:07:34,240
Speaker 1: people come watch him and it's not a performance. No,

2537
02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:36,800
Speaker 1: he's for real. He's dead. As saw him get really

2538
02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:39,880
Speaker 1: really fucking agitated. He went to the Angels game when

2539
02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:41,760
Speaker 1: the Yankees played last month, that's cool weeks or whatever,

2540
02:07:41,920 --> 02:07:43,760
Speaker 1: and he was kind of fight, bro, like a fist fight, Like,

2541
02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:45,600
Speaker 1: come on, dog, you're fifty years old. Don't you find

2542
02:07:45,640 --> 02:07:49,520
Speaker 1: people for man? Anyways going on? You know, like, um,

2543
02:07:50,440 --> 02:07:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm not having at Alonzo situation. It is what it is,

2544
02:07:52,680 --> 02:07:54,520
Speaker 1: you know. I just I've met all of them, you know,

2545
02:07:54,640 --> 02:07:56,880
Speaker 1: like I know a lot of the young cats, Like, um,

2546
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:02,040
Speaker 1: who are you speaking to? Whether there you I recorded too?

2547
02:08:03,080 --> 02:08:06,080
Speaker 1: You were talking to somebody? Was it an NBA analyst?

2548
02:08:06,160 --> 02:08:08,280
Speaker 1: It was a few weeks ago and you asked him, so,

2549
02:08:08,360 --> 02:08:10,840
Speaker 1: who do you like at the high school draft? It

2550
02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:14,000
Speaker 1: was it was the guy from slam I think that's

2551
02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:17,120
Speaker 1: right now, my boy, Russ Bankston. Russ was was the

2552
02:08:17,280 --> 02:08:18,960
Speaker 1: editor of slam Ford. I know there was a dude,

2553
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:20,720
Speaker 1: but abuff him. Right. You guys start talking about this

2554
02:08:20,720 --> 02:08:22,520
Speaker 1: ship and I was ready to jump into the fucking

2555
02:08:22,520 --> 02:08:24,040
Speaker 1: stereo and be like, yo, I'm about the stock both

2556
02:08:24,040 --> 02:08:25,360
Speaker 1: because some of the ship that you guys said whatever,

2557
02:08:25,480 --> 02:08:28,240
Speaker 1: Like listen, I don't know these fucking kids that's always

2558
02:08:28,240 --> 02:08:30,880
Speaker 1: asking him. Listen, I'm talking about like one of the

2559
02:08:31,040 --> 02:08:33,640
Speaker 1: guys he mentioned is bull Ball little Bles. He's a

2560
02:08:33,680 --> 02:08:35,200
Speaker 1: good friend of mine with my little fucking like my

2561
02:08:35,280 --> 02:08:37,400
Speaker 1: little nephew. You know, I funk with Sharif and you

2562
02:08:37,440 --> 02:08:39,240
Speaker 1: know the look a like guys and whatever. And there's

2563
02:08:39,240 --> 02:08:41,720
Speaker 1: a couple of guys. But going on. I'm sorry, we're

2564
02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:45,320
Speaker 1: jumping all over the place. But like the place. But

2565
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:47,640
Speaker 1: like the other day you're talking about with Candice, you're

2566
02:08:47,640 --> 02:08:50,120
Speaker 1: talking about Lebron. I'm just like, yo, listen, I'll get

2567
02:08:50,200 --> 02:08:52,720
Speaker 1: him his due diligence and you know whatever. But listen, man,

2568
02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't care if you hit these game

2569
02:08:54,760 --> 02:08:57,440
Speaker 1: winning shots. That's great, right, you're not hitting those game

2570
02:08:57,440 --> 02:08:59,800
Speaker 1: winning shots and you're fucking six finals and you only

2571
02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:02,600
Speaker 1: one three, like, bro, that doesn't I'm sorry. I agree.

2572
02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but listen. You know I'm with you. I'm

2573
02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:07,680
Speaker 1: on the I am on the front lines of the

2574
02:09:07,760 --> 02:09:10,160
Speaker 1: Lebron I'm in front of the front line, bro. But

2575
02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:12,520
Speaker 1: but I'm like on the front like I mean, the

2576
02:09:12,680 --> 02:09:16,720
Speaker 1: ramifications of my Lebron hate, there's ramifications. It's gotten bad

2577
02:09:16,760 --> 02:09:18,840
Speaker 1: with me. Too, because Dwayne Wade's is a friend of mine,

2578
02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:21,760
Speaker 1: gap you know, and it's gotten. It's like, you know,

2579
02:09:22,280 --> 02:09:24,680
Speaker 1: there's been ramifications, and I'll take it because I know

2580
02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:26,480
Speaker 1: that I give him his credit and I also give

2581
02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:28,920
Speaker 1: him a credit. It's like, in order to hate Lebron,

2582
02:09:29,000 --> 02:09:30,840
Speaker 1: you have to like suck him off. It's like, you

2583
02:09:30,920 --> 02:09:34,000
Speaker 1: gotta go, well, he's a great person, he's this. I'm like,

2584
02:09:34,240 --> 02:09:36,280
Speaker 1: but I don't like him as a player, like just

2585
02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:39,760
Speaker 1: like Jordan's. It's like, but it's Dan called himself king

2586
02:09:41,480 --> 02:09:43,640
Speaker 1: all of the fucking things. I'm not gonna let fucking

2587
02:09:43,720 --> 02:09:47,560
Speaker 1: Lebron James hijack the Ben Baller interview. But I will

2588
02:09:47,640 --> 02:09:50,200
Speaker 1: say this. I will say fucking this. Then I winning

2589
02:09:50,200 --> 02:09:54,120
Speaker 1: the champion. The fucking party is over. The fucking parties

2590
02:09:54,160 --> 02:09:56,680
Speaker 1: over for those motherfucker's. I think Boston's gonna beat them,

2591
02:09:56,720 --> 02:09:59,960
Speaker 1: and I didn't think that. If Boston had everyone help

2592
02:10:00,120 --> 02:10:02,840
Speaker 1: Feet tomorrow, I think they'd be a different team. I

2593
02:10:02,880 --> 02:10:04,960
Speaker 1: don't know how they'd be, That's what I'm saying. Do

2594
02:10:04,960 --> 02:10:06,880
Speaker 1: you think because they didn't play for you know what

2595
02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:09,880
Speaker 1: they I don't know. I don't know they're gonna trust me.

2596
02:10:10,040 --> 02:10:12,240
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving's on the bench going, oh, ship, do you

2597
02:10:12,320 --> 02:10:15,160
Speaker 1: think Boston has a chance against Houston or Golden State?

2598
02:10:15,200 --> 02:10:19,760
Speaker 1: Who know? But but they're not gonna get swept. That

2599
02:10:19,880 --> 02:10:24,320
Speaker 1: fucking Brad Stevens is like that motherfucker's like yo, he

2600
02:10:24,680 --> 02:10:27,480
Speaker 1: I mean, but they're talented. Remember I'm a Laker fan,

2601
02:10:27,600 --> 02:10:31,240
Speaker 1: So all the other rivalries that came around recently, that's

2602
02:10:31,320 --> 02:10:34,280
Speaker 1: nothing compared to that O G. Boston Lakers, nothing, you

2603
02:10:34,320 --> 02:10:37,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like people get fucking beat up

2604
02:10:37,120 --> 02:10:38,520
Speaker 1: and fucking going to fucking you know what I mean,

2605
02:10:38,600 --> 02:10:40,960
Speaker 1: going to Boston, trying to going to Boston, trying to

2606
02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:43,480
Speaker 1: wear some blue and purple and get your ass beat

2607
02:10:43,880 --> 02:10:46,560
Speaker 1: and like, dude, me and Mark Wahlberg, he ordered some

2608
02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:50,560
Speaker 1: expensive as ship. We've been friends since, me and Mark

2609
02:10:50,640 --> 02:10:52,720
Speaker 1: on and speaking right now because of how I spoke

2610
02:10:52,760 --> 02:10:54,360
Speaker 1: about the World's I don't know if you saw I

2611
02:10:54,440 --> 02:10:56,480
Speaker 1: went nuts on the Super Bowl because I hate Tom

2612
02:10:56,520 --> 02:10:59,080
Speaker 1: Brady me too, Like I can't stand Tom Brady. And

2613
02:10:59,200 --> 02:11:01,120
Speaker 1: now we're not speak king and he's not ordering joy

2614
02:11:01,120 --> 02:11:03,200
Speaker 1: and I don't give a fuck. Are you don't curious? Yeah,

2615
02:11:03,440 --> 02:11:06,080
Speaker 1: it's gotten that deep Walgs not not he doesn't text

2616
02:11:06,120 --> 02:11:08,360
Speaker 1: me not calling things. The thing about Boston fans is

2617
02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:11,280
Speaker 1: like for for teams that are successful as him, they

2618
02:11:11,320 --> 02:11:13,640
Speaker 1: have the worst sense of humor, like if my team

2619
02:11:13,760 --> 02:11:15,240
Speaker 1: was as good as their team, like you can make

2620
02:11:15,280 --> 02:11:17,800
Speaker 1: all the jokes you want, no true Like of course

2621
02:11:18,040 --> 02:11:20,480
Speaker 1: they don't understand why, because you know what it is,

2622
02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:23,480
Speaker 1: it's homo erotic. A lot of these Boston fans they

2623
02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:25,840
Speaker 1: want to fuck Tom Brady. They don't just want to

2624
02:11:25,880 --> 02:11:30,200
Speaker 1: be like Tom. They want to They want to Tom. Yes,

2625
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:33,280
Speaker 1: they have like crushes on him, like it's an erotic thing.

2626
02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:36,000
Speaker 1: They want to fun Tom Brady. Listen, Ben Baller, we

2627
02:11:36,120 --> 02:11:37,920
Speaker 1: we gotta shut it down. I knew we weren't going

2628
02:11:37,960 --> 02:11:42,240
Speaker 1: to compartmentalize because although your Korean, you're neurotic like a jew. Um.

2629
02:11:42,520 --> 02:11:44,560
Speaker 1: We didn't even get into the reasonable doubt. I mean,

2630
02:11:44,680 --> 02:11:47,000
Speaker 1: I had lists, the fucking lists of no on no, no,

2631
02:11:47,120 --> 02:11:49,960
Speaker 1: I no. I know Part two is coming up for sure,

2632
02:11:50,560 --> 02:11:52,440
Speaker 1: we might have to break this in the three parts.

2633
02:11:53,000 --> 02:11:56,400
Speaker 1: Ben Baller Iron Wraport Stereo podcast. This is a This

2634
02:11:56,560 --> 02:11:59,440
Speaker 1: is a certified classic. Ben Baller made the chain. Ben

2635
02:11:59,520 --> 02:12:06,200
Speaker 1: Boler made the podcast. We're done all right. I told

2636
02:12:06,240 --> 02:12:09,320
Speaker 1: you I don't play games. Here at the Iron Rapports

2637
02:12:09,320 --> 02:12:12,680
Speaker 1: Stereo podcast, Ben Buller's special guest that was part one.

2638
02:12:13,120 --> 02:12:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean, this fucking guy can go on and on

2639
02:12:15,120 --> 02:12:18,040
Speaker 1: and on and on and on. I appreciate you rocking

2640
02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:22,360
Speaker 1: with the best. Ge Moody, last name rhymes with duty. Yeah.

2641
02:12:22,600 --> 02:12:27,280
Speaker 1: I apologize for the funk up rule number one. Now again,

2642
02:12:27,320 --> 02:12:30,200
Speaker 1: it's officially always plug your mike and rule number two.

2643
02:12:30,560 --> 02:12:33,640
Speaker 1: There's no fact checking at the Iron Rapports Stereo Podcast,

2644
02:12:34,200 --> 02:12:38,120
Speaker 1: Ben Boller. Thanks to rocking with Us Miles Jordan's take

2645
02:12:38,200 --> 02:12:42,480
Speaker 1: us out of here, something funky, something nice for the people.

2646
02:12:42,880 --> 02:12:50,240
Speaker 1: G Moody, last name rhymes with duty. Done. M h

2647
02:12:54,840 --> 02:13:05,040
Speaker 1: m hm hm m