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Speaker 1: in to another edition of The Final Drive. Chargers lose

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Speaker 1: twenty eight thirteen to the Denver Broncos, dropping to six

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Speaker 1: and five in this wide open AFC and AFC West

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Speaker 1: and Haley, I think you just start with Vic Fangio's defense.

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Speaker 1: They had a plan for Justin Herbert and company. Justin

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Speaker 1: through two interceptions, one in the end zone. Want to

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Speaker 1: pick six. He was hit ten times, he was sacked

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Speaker 1: three times, and that's kind of where it started, it is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this was a one score game heading into

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. It was fourteen to seven with the

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Speaker 1: Broncos lead, and then that defense and well we'll specifically

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Speaker 1: call out Patrick Surtan came alive in that fourth This

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Speaker 1: was the big game, you know, the big like mentor

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Speaker 1: versus Mente game, and Vic Fangio definitely prepped his defense

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Speaker 1: to play, you know, no Von Miller, who now is

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Speaker 1: in La across the town with the Rams. But it

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Speaker 1: felt like it didn't matter with how they were able

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Speaker 1: to just control this Chargers offense most of the day.

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Speaker 1: And the other side to that is, for as many

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Speaker 1: drives as you felt like the Chargers offense had and

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Speaker 1: could get going, they just something stalled it, whether it

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Speaker 1: was a turnover on downs, whether it was a missfield goal,

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Speaker 1: and whether it was those two interceptions. At the end,

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Speaker 1: they were moving the ball, but then when the defense

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Speaker 1: opposing defense needed to make a play, they certainly did.

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Speaker 1: You and I came on a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 1: and talked about this critical three game stretch between Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: Denver and Cincinnati, and I will admit I like was like, oh, forget,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's overlook the Broncos. Let's talk about these

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Speaker 1: two AFC teams. But a loss in division is big.

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Speaker 1: Now you know, you're two and one. I forget the

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Speaker 1: specific stap, but the Broncos have played the Chargers tough,

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Speaker 1: tough over these last this last chunk of games. But

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Speaker 1: you you know, you could have gone three and oen division.

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Speaker 1: You could have been seven and four. Now you're six

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Speaker 1: and five with a loss in division in an extremely

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Speaker 1: tight AFC West, but not only that, just an extremely

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Speaker 1: tight AFC in general. Yeah, a big difference. You're right

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Speaker 1: between six and five and seven and four. It's been

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Speaker 1: almost like a house of horse for the Chargers up

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Speaker 1: in Denver. They want they've lost eight up nine now

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Speaker 1: up in Denver. And it started at the beginning and

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Speaker 1: you could look at time of possession on the stat

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Speaker 1: sheet and it evened out, but it did not start

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Speaker 1: that way. And that's how the Broncos got up fourteen nothing.

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Speaker 1: They sustained drives. The Chargers went three and out on

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Speaker 1: not do itself any favors to start the game. Hailing

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Speaker 1: fourteen nothing, you put yourself in a hole on the road,

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Speaker 1: and I knew that they were down, guys, I knew

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Speaker 1: they were down to Santa Samuel Junior. Matt Feiler has

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Speaker 1: been just an unsung hero on that offensive line, and

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Speaker 1: his presence was certainly missed on the line today. The

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Speaker 1: running game, you just can't get the running game going.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Justin Herbert has been the leading rusher on

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Speaker 1: today twelve to thirty one. So I think at some

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Speaker 1: sustain drives, especially early in games, because teams have kind

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Speaker 1: of figured out a blueprint keep justin Herbert off the field.

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Speaker 1: They did it enough early Haley to go up fourteen nothing,

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Speaker 1: and that's kind of that was kind of the dagger

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Speaker 1: at the beginning, because the Chargers were not able to

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Speaker 1: it to a one position game at halftime. But you

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Speaker 1: mentioned that fourth quarter everything kind of unraveled. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: But it's not a sustainable plan, especially when you get

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Speaker 1: That definitely does need to get going. There are just

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Speaker 1: certain things that we've seen and then Justin Herbert also

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Speaker 1: is something that he said in regards to Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: in regards to Wink Martindale and the Ravens, in regards

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Speaker 1: But then you forget, you know that he is still

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Speaker 1: young and this was a game though that you essentially

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Speaker 1: comes to your division. Yeah, you're ready, you're right, and

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Speaker 1: you're right about Justin. You can't expect the lights out

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Speaker 1: that complimentary aspect, whether it's on special teams, whether it's

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Speaker 1: but the Broncos they had something for him today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of those just kind of let's keep it moving to

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Speaker 1: put it in a perspective here, there's so many teams

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Speaker 1: the Broncos and the Chiefs play on Sunday Night Football

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Speaker 1: next week. So yeah, there's so much you're so right

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Speaker 1: And you know, next sunday's another must win, Like if

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Speaker 1: that's now apparently going to be for the division league

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know what's going to happen, but

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Speaker 1: They'll be just fine, because I'd be remiss if I

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Speaker 1: didn't mentioned how good Drwin was and what he did

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