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Speaker 1: I'm gone one day. I take one day off, and
Speaker 1: this is what happens my brain.
Speaker 2: You're like, this is the baseball podcast with me and
Speaker 2: Derek Brown and Matthew Friedman, and today we're talking hockey.
Speaker 1: Yes it's all over the place, but yes, we are
Speaker 1: happy to be back. I want to thank the Welsh
Speaker 1: and Bogwin for holding down the fort for me yesterday
Speaker 1: and and doing such wonderful show here in my absence. Also,
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened on Monday. I posted the
Speaker 1: show before I left, and I don't know what went
Speaker 1: on there. Once again, the brain is mush. This is
Speaker 1: what happens in late July early August when I'm doing
Speaker 1: the confluence of events. But Welsh There was some great
Speaker 1: baseball last night, including an incredible Mets Yankees game that
Speaker 1: was very entertaining to watch. The stadium was rocking, it
Speaker 1: was summertime in the city. It was a very enjoyable evening,
Speaker 1: more so because the Mets actually won, which is something
Speaker 1: I'm not used to all the time. So this was fun.
Speaker 1: But would you guys talk about yesterday? You guys hang
Speaker 1: out have fun without dad, and.
Speaker 2: You're like, did you talk about me? Did you guys
Speaker 2: talk about some stuff? You know, we had some fun yesterday,
Speaker 2: But I was expecting an open up of a wrestling
Speaker 2: update on how it was. This was the first show
Speaker 2: without Vince McMahon. This is your you love this stuff?
Speaker 2: I mean, was it amazing? Was there anything incredible that happened?
Speaker 2: It was, well, it was a It was a very
Speaker 2: good show.
Speaker 1: First of all, we did get some you know, we
Speaker 1: get the Roman reigns, we got the bloodline, the whole thing.
Speaker 1: We did get Ronda Rowsey showing up for a little cameo. Two,
Speaker 1: we got a return of Ria Ripley, which was super fun.
Speaker 1: But the energy in the building was awesome. It felt
Speaker 1: like everybody was just kind of free. It felt like
Speaker 1: the performers were a little bit more free potentially. They
Speaker 1: just there was something loose and fun and everybody was just.
Speaker 2: Like, Yay, we finally wanted this for years wrestling or
Speaker 2: Edwin's DZ Edwin Diaz's entrance.
Speaker 1: Edwin is pretty amazing. The trumpets are are pretty fantastic.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, but the I've been in that
Speaker 1: building for two very important Triple H moments. I was
Speaker 1: there for the first time he is running the show,
Speaker 1: so to speak. And I was also there in two
Speaker 1: thousand and two when he returned and wore the Canadian
Speaker 1: tuxedo all denim outfit, which was one again, to this day,
Speaker 1: the longest loudest crowd I've ever been a part of anywhere,
Speaker 1: for any event, sporting or otherwise. It was wild. The
Speaker 1: energy in the building. I get goosebumps just talking about
Speaker 1: it was an amazing thing. So I'm Triple H's good
Speaker 1: luck charm at the end of the day, and hopefully
Speaker 1: we were a good luck charm here for you guys.
Speaker 1: We're getting closer to the trade deadline. We got a
Speaker 1: lot of fantacy to talk about, a lot of wagering
Speaker 1: to talk about. So let's get to it. A lot
Speaker 1: of headlines today. Let's start with the Nationals saying that
Speaker 1: their general manager are saying they're not going to dilute
Speaker 1: the trade for Juan Sodo by worrying about bad contracts.
Speaker 1: So this is the right answer to give. But I
Speaker 1: don't believe him Welsh is that Okay?
Speaker 2: Now you cannot believe it. This is I'm every day
Speaker 2: I'm more infatuated with this entire process. Funny enough, today,
Speaker 2: most likely you would hope Patrick Corbyn's last start as
Speaker 2: a National as he's going to be going today. But
Speaker 2: yesterday we were talking about this report that Jim Bowden
Speaker 2: put out that this was going to be the biggest
Speaker 2: haul in the history of the jibball, that this would
Speaker 2: be a historic trade, and I've been sitting on like
Speaker 2: what does that look like? And the Patrick Corbyn stuff
Speaker 2: always is in the back of my head that I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know how, like are we really gonna look
Speaker 2: at this? And I'd asked Bogs yesterday and I guess
Speaker 2: I'd asked you the same thing, like what does the
Speaker 2: most historic trade in baseball history look like? And can
Speaker 2: Patrick corbyan be a part of that? Because I feel
Speaker 2: like he will delude it. This is the right thing
Speaker 2: to say. I just am not sure what speak. I
Speaker 2: don't know what left is right, up is down at
Speaker 2: this point with the trade market and one.
Speaker 1: So though it's it's look for anybody who says, oh,
Speaker 1: we spend too much time on this, it's not every
Speaker 1: day that the twenty four year old best player in
Speaker 1: baseball gets traded. I mean, this is this is huge.
Speaker 1: And look the people are kicking the tires on Otani.
Speaker 1: You've heard J. D. Martinez rumors. You've heard a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 2: I do not believe the Otani ones. I gotta tell you, boy,
Speaker 2: like I have I saw.
Speaker 1: I believe people have asked and then they've been hung
Speaker 1: up upon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well but that was the early discussion. There was
Speaker 2: a report, I think yesterday or Monday that was like
Speaker 2: the Mets and Angels have had discussions, and it's like,
Speaker 2: if you mean by discussions, the Mets called and the
Speaker 2: Angels like listened and thenung up. That's about what I believe.
Speaker 2: I just don't believe there's any way they would entertain
Speaker 2: moving Otani.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Chad Pinder launching a Grand
Speaker 1: Slam last night, so loud on him. A nice home
Speaker 1: run for Louis Hirius of the Milwaukee Brewers, as well
Speaker 1: as Clevenger going seven strong innings. No decision for Clevenger,
Speaker 1: but still this is a positive step in the right direction.
Speaker 1: I think. Well, yeah, well that's the other thing too,
Speaker 1: is now that bullpen's getting a little scary. So let's
Speaker 1: talk about from a fancy perspective. Give that to me.
Speaker 1: Do you think that Rogers holds onto this job? You
Speaker 1: think he gets replaced here at the trade deadline he
Speaker 1: moves into the eighth inning role.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the things I actually okay, so this
Speaker 2: is a funny thing. I haven't even talked to fantasy
Speaker 2: pros about this, and maybe I will about doing an article, well,
Speaker 2: because I'm working on something I might do on air.
Speaker 2: But I was going through some fabricated trade ideas, like
Speaker 2: stuff we haven't heard, even connecting players with teams that
Speaker 2: I haven't heard, and I was going through trade scenarios
Speaker 2: and it's just funny that you mentioned that, because one
Speaker 2: of my scenarios is the San Diego Padres picking up
Speaker 2: a really good reliever, a guy that could theoretically come
Speaker 2: in and close or if anything, just give them more support,
Speaker 2: because you know, at the end of the day, if
Speaker 2: the Padres can't make the big trade happen, if they
Speaker 2: can't make.
Speaker 1: Well now with the Mackenzie Gore injury, that is a
Speaker 1: big wrinkle in them landing soda opinion. That is a
Speaker 1: huge wrinkle into this whole thing. This was bad, bad,
Speaker 1: bad timing, and if.
Speaker 2: They can't make it happen, you know they're going to
Speaker 2: have to turn the Plan B, and Plan B might
Speaker 2: be trying to acquire just other multiple pieces, not letting
Speaker 2: this opportunity slip by them. Now that you've got Tatis
Speaker 2: coming back, you've had a really good closer, you've had
Speaker 2: some of your pictures actually out there, Cleb and Snell
Speaker 2: playing well. If you can get everybody healthy, your opportunity
Speaker 2: is right now. And that's one of the things I
Speaker 2: have going on because I don't think there's any assurances.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're as good as he's played all year.
Speaker 2: I don't think that they would weather three weeks of
Speaker 2: just garbage to or to lose any wins. So yeah,
Speaker 2: so the long answer is sure, I don't think that
Speaker 2: you know, he could I think he could be replaced
Speaker 2: in that role. If given the proper replacement.
Speaker 1: I would be very concerned right now if you had
Speaker 1: Rodgers on a fantasy team that he is going to
Speaker 1: hold that job. The guy that I would want is
Speaker 1: the guy from Detroit. I think Sodo has been excellent,
Speaker 1: and Detroit's already told you everybody's available. Just make us
Speaker 1: an offer. We are selling. What a surprise. Continuing on
Speaker 1: the Yankees and White Tucks are showing interest in Jose
Speaker 1: Kintana of the Pirates. I understand the flexibility. That is
Speaker 1: not a great move. I mean for the Yankees, he
Speaker 1: would be a bullpen guy because they're a little thin
Speaker 1: right now after that Michael King injury, so I get that,
Speaker 1: and a lefty out of there would be helpful. But again,
Speaker 1: that's nothing move the Yankees need to make that's going
Speaker 1: to be a huge impact. Machado tweaked his ankle apparently
Speaker 1: a little bit yesterday, so we'll keep a close eye
Speaker 1: on that. Springer hits a seventh career Grand Slam Spencer Striider,
Speaker 1: another strong outing for him, another good day for Matt
Speaker 1: Olsen at the plate, and another win for the Braves,
Speaker 1: which seems like we are just in a time loop. Here.
Speaker 1: All they do is win games. Speaking of braves, the
Speaker 1: son of Andrew Jones, Drew Jones alord, he is hurt.
Speaker 1: So oh, this was one of the stranger things. So
Speaker 1: he was having a bullpen session now and he now
Speaker 1: he's got a shoulder surgery or ahead of him. It
Speaker 1: looks like, I don't know what's going on, but wow, happened?
Speaker 1: How did we get here?
Speaker 2: He took BP and the only thing I'm not clear
Speaker 2: on is he took VP with the Diamondbacks and then
Speaker 2: on Monday because this man, this kills me because obviously
Speaker 2: everyone else, I'm a Diamondbacks fan. I live out here
Speaker 2: in Arizona. My week has been has been literally littered
Speaker 2: in figuring out when Drew was going to be there
Speaker 2: and I was going to be out at the Diamondbacks
Speaker 2: watching him play practice whatever it was. And what I
Speaker 2: feel like I've garnered is Monday, he was taking BP
Speaker 2: and it was They said it was like the second
Speaker 2: to last swing he felt something. He felt tightness in
Speaker 2: his arm. Didn't they said, it didn't take him to
Speaker 2: his knees. And now the fear is the early indications,
Speaker 2: the fear is is this is going to take him
Speaker 2: out through spring training and there should be a surgery required.
Speaker 2: But today he's going to see a local team doctor
Speaker 2: and they'll have that determination. If he doesn't have surgery
Speaker 2: or they wait, He'll probably stay with the Diamondbacks and
Speaker 2: I'll probably try to go over there if he does
Speaker 2: have surgery. Similar to Jordan Lawler, I mean, similar to
Speaker 2: Corbin Carroll, he would probably go home for a bit,
Speaker 2: come back maybe in a couple months, maybe come back,
Speaker 2: hang around for instructs. But it's a brutal blow. It's weird,
Speaker 2: and I got it shared to me no less than
Speaker 2: ten times between text and DMS and instant messaging all that.
Speaker 1: Get it everybody, Thanks Guyanks, Thanks thanks.
Speaker 2: The one thing I have to be happy for right now.
Speaker 1: No, ye't be happy. No, no happiness there. Speaking of
Speaker 1: the Tigers too early hours, talking about Sodo barely drink
Speaker 1: Schooble is available too. Now. This is a picture I
Speaker 1: did not anticipate in this story being on the market,
Speaker 1: but I think a picture that would be very intriguing
Speaker 1: to many many teams. I like that the Tigers are
Speaker 1: kind of jumping in here. They still got a long
Speaker 1: way to go now, Sally for the Tigers. A lot
Speaker 1: of these other pitching prospects have not developed as they
Speaker 1: hoped they would. So, uh, Schooble going to a contender?
Speaker 1: What would that do to his fantasy value? Potentially?
Speaker 2: In your opinion, they can boost it theoretical boost pinning
Speaker 2: where you go. You know who instantly jumped to my
Speaker 2: mind was the Seattle Mariners. The Seattle Mariners.
Speaker 1: Would be that would be a good bet for them.
Speaker 2: Because the thing that that he's got going on is
Speaker 2: just young, controllable. You know, he's he's got a good
Speaker 2: contract for years. They're going to be able to control
Speaker 2: him really well. And it seems gonna have to pay
Speaker 2: up for him. Does school school fits? I guess a
Speaker 2: lot of anybody, But who would be willing to maybe
Speaker 2: even overpay in this market? I do think the Mariners
Speaker 2: are going to struggle competing to get some of the
Speaker 2: high end pitchers. So maybe this is one of the
Speaker 2: situations where you know, they just jump in. Maybe they're
Speaker 2: throwing out a guy like I mean, they don't need
Speaker 2: a Kilnick and Torkles in together. But you know, maybe Newelvie.
Speaker 1: Well, I was just going to ask you, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're the Tigers. Does Kallenick for Schooble
Speaker 1: make sense for you? Like that? That's almost a deal
Speaker 1: that I kind of get, Like, you're still trying to
Speaker 1: build young position players, maybe a buy a lot.
Speaker 2: Are you saying for the Tigers?
Speaker 1: For everybody? No? I mean it certainly makes sense for
Speaker 1: the Seattle, But does it make sense for the Tigers
Speaker 1: at this point? If you're gonna move Schooble, you know,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna get for him necessarily? And do
Speaker 1: you want more position players or do you want pitchers?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think the Tigers would do that
Speaker 2: move straight up for Kelnick. There's too many warts in
Speaker 2: his game right now, and scooball has shown just huge
Speaker 2: signs of life all year and big, big strikeouts. I mean,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, when you have a young, controllable,
Speaker 2: success successful ish pitcher, they're gonna cost an arm in
Speaker 2: a leg and I think it would just cost more.
Speaker 2: I mean, the Tigers might would be better set maybe
Speaker 2: looking at a guy like Neelvie Marte in that, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe a couple other pieces instead of a guy like Kelnick.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I think Mayer said it in here,
Speaker 2: highly doubt Schooble goes anywhere. I kind of agree. I
Speaker 2: think those are the hardest guys to trade is guys
Speaker 2: that aren't like pushing up against arbitration. They're young, they're controllable.
Speaker 2: I keep saying that, but it's just like, why would
Speaker 2: the Tigers do it unless they get a haul? And
Speaker 2: I don't see the big contenders pushing on a big
Speaker 2: haul for a guy like that, where maybe it would
Speaker 2: be a team like the Mariners who are gonna have,
Speaker 2: you know, issues, maybe getting huge, big market guys coming.
Speaker 1: If the Mariners got Schoogled, that would be a big
Speaker 1: win for them and a win for Schoobol's value. I
Speaker 1: think rest of season that injury lists here. Jad Martinez
Speaker 1: with the back injury was back in on the DH
Speaker 1: spot on Tuesday, so that's good for Nando Tatis Junior
Speaker 1: was taking full VP on the field. That's a positive. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: McKenzie gore though, goes to the fifteen day DL with
Speaker 1: the elbow injury. Oh my goodness, here we go. So
Speaker 1: we've had all these stages of McKinsey Gore. We started
Speaker 1: off where welshes like, don't go anywhere near this guy
Speaker 1: to bitch, bitcher all these things, right, and then McKinsey
Speaker 1: Gore was awesome for a while. Then he started to
Speaker 1: show a little bit more of a human side, and
Speaker 1: now he's injured. So where do we stand here with
Speaker 1: the long term value of Mackenzie Gore at this stage?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're in the denial phase. I think that's
Speaker 2: where we are on the face of brief where I mean,
Speaker 2: where do we go as fantasy owners.
Speaker 1: Let's say you've got him in a dynasty keeper league
Speaker 1: right now, I know you're just pretty much holding on
Speaker 1: to him. You've missed your window to get rid of
Speaker 1: him if you wanted to when he was pitching out
Speaker 1: of this world for a few months. But at this point,
Speaker 1: I mean, whenever you see elbow, that feels like I'm
Speaker 1: twite some time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm terrified of the results for Gore because.
Speaker 1: This could be I mean, this kills the Sodo deal
Speaker 1: for them, I think personally, personally, I think I think
Speaker 1: he's a lynchpin of that.
Speaker 2: But see here's what I would throw out though, Does
Speaker 2: that mean because of the injury, does it actually mean
Speaker 2: that he was not being moved? I think it would
Speaker 2: just be a medical situation and it would have to
Speaker 2: be like.
Speaker 1: No team.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think you the Nationals cannot say hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're taking on this. We're gonna take c. J. Abrams,
Speaker 1: who's a nice prospect, he's not tattoos, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: take him and a guy who's gonna be have Tommy
Speaker 1: John in the year. Uh yeah, I think that's not.
Speaker 2: Going to be competing. They're not going to be competing.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It all depends on their evaluation of him.
Speaker 2: I still struggle. Like I said, everything I saw from him,
Speaker 2: he looked like a reliever to me. He got hit
Speaker 2: hard and then this year he was so good on
Speaker 2: the first half of the year, struggled a bit, got
Speaker 2: put into kind of that like pseudo reliefy type of role.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I think you probably hold in dynasty,
Speaker 2: especially to see the results of this. I'm a little
Speaker 2: bit worried. I do think the Potteris have moved off.
Speaker 2: They were kind of my favorite, and in my scenario
Speaker 2: of building trades that I'm not seeing, I don't have
Speaker 2: Soto go into the Padres in that one, So it
Speaker 2: sucks for them. And I don't think I don't think
Speaker 2: there's any other motivation to move Abrams in any type
Speaker 2: of deal, even if they wanted to go, you know,
Speaker 2: beat around the bush on like Mantas or Castillo. I
Speaker 2: just don't think trading Abrams makes sense.
Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I think the Padres me personally,
Speaker 1: the Padres offering Mackenzie Gore Abrams another prospect or too,
Speaker 1: like that looked like a package. I could get it done.
Speaker 1: And I just saw it on Twitter MLB dot com
Speaker 1: with a little picture of of Alvarez from the Mets
Speaker 1: number one prospect in baseball. M boy, that that's interesting timing.
Speaker 2: You know, Mets have been a little quiet lately, little
Speaker 2: quiet on the Well, you know what the Mets are doing.
Speaker 1: The Mets are Mets are seeing other girls right now.
Speaker 1: They're out there like, you know what, that's fine. We're gonnarea.
Speaker 1: We wanna go see other people. We're gonna see other people.
Speaker 1: This is the dance. This is what we're doing right now.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, there's only one soda, there's only one ten in
Speaker 2: this market. I think the Mets are out there talking
Speaker 2: to fives and well, what the Mets.
Speaker 1: Are doing is, you know, you remember that stupid show
Speaker 1: that used to be on v H one with the guy,
Speaker 1: the pick up artist guy. You know, you're just throwing
Speaker 1: the nags out there, the negative compliment. That's what the
Speaker 1: Mets do. The really pretty girl. Yeah I remember that, mister.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well then that would be the Mets being out
Speaker 2: there be like Soto's all right, he's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Otani pitches. He also pitches. Otani. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, let's go, let's go that that guy will
Speaker 1: do anything. Tani's like, bye, he's like that guy. That
Speaker 1: guy could do anything we asked him to do. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know.
Speaker 2: The only thing though, the more I've thought about it,
Speaker 2: do the Mets have like when when you talk about
Speaker 2: generational talent and like you know, this is gonna be
Speaker 2: the biggest trade in history. Do the Mets have the deal?
Speaker 2: Do they have that? Like I know it has to
Speaker 2: sit around Alvarez. This isn't a question, but is that it?
Speaker 2: Like Brett Bady, Ryan Mauricio, like what else, it's a.
Speaker 1: Great hall prospects. They'll take Corbin too. They will do
Speaker 1: whatever it takes to get soda. And I think whatever
Speaker 1: it takes is the right mentality personally. And again, this
Speaker 1: is not gonna be from my fandom. This is baseball
Speaker 1: stuff we're talking about here, you know, the whole division stuff.
Speaker 1: I told you it's nonsense. It doesn't matter. Bobby WIT's
Speaker 1: hamstring does matter. He's out again yesterday. Look, we were
Speaker 1: both looking for a big second half from Bobby Witt.
Speaker 1: What's your concern level here with this hamstring, because this
Speaker 1: is something that could really hamper him down the stretch
Speaker 1: in terms of stolen bases, which is a huge part
Speaker 1: of his fantasy value.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he was pushing for like a twenty
Speaker 2: five thirty season or twenty thirty season coming up. I'm
Speaker 2: a little bit worried about it. I mean, these young,
Speaker 2: younger guys being able to return from this a little bit,
Speaker 2: you know, a little bit easier. I would say it's
Speaker 2: probably a three on a level of ten. We'll see
Speaker 2: where it goes. And if we do get like an
Speaker 2: extended streak of stolen bases coming down, that's probably gonna
Speaker 2: tell you a whole lot. But I'd say it's a
Speaker 2: three at this point.
Speaker 1: All right, Looking on the rest of Julia Rodriguez was
Speaker 1: back in the line up yesterday, two. That's good. But
Speaker 1: what's bad is Chris Bryant dealing with a planter fasciitis,
Speaker 1: which is very painful. I've dealt with it before. It sucks.
Speaker 1: Chris Bryant. Is this going to be one of the
Speaker 1: worst contracts we ever seen ever? No?
Speaker 2: No, no, this isn't Davis, but it'll be. Uh, it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Being Chris Davis. But like, I don't think our expectations
Speaker 1: for for Chris Davis, where's highs our expectations for Chris
Speaker 1: Bryant in terms of career arc?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but I think that that Chris Bryant you're
Speaker 2: imagining was like three years ago, the one that signed
Speaker 2: in Colorado. That was different Chris Bryant than the arc
Speaker 2: of who he was early on. But it's not gonna
Speaker 2: look good. It's I'm completely worried about Chris Bryant. I'm
Speaker 2: out for the rest of the year and whatever capacity
Speaker 2: that still means. And frankly, if I could get a
Speaker 2: you know, if I can get a decent move off
Speaker 2: in Dynasty, I would. And I was a Chris brank God,
Speaker 2: I love Chris Brant.
Speaker 1: But yes you did.
Speaker 2: You will over it. I'm over it.
Speaker 1: Nice. By the way, there's a lot of discussion about JD.
Speaker 1: Davis going in that trade to JD. Davis is not special.
Speaker 1: And I remember how it started. Jade Davis was on
Speaker 1: a hot month where he was, you know, again good
Speaker 1: from one, you know, hitting against one kind of pitcher,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, JD. Davis can have a
Speaker 1: run in him. Jady Davis is a nice guy to
Speaker 1: you know, have on your bench. Jadie Davis is a
Speaker 1: nice guy to play in DFS on good BVP matcheses.
Speaker 1: I said he is not special. And I said that,
Speaker 1: and I took a lot of heat because he was
Speaker 1: playing very well. What's JD. Davis's stats on the year,
Speaker 1: by the way, Well, should want to what's the ops?
Speaker 1: What's the batting And I just want to see all this.
Speaker 1: You want to start with ops, Like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is off the top of
Speaker 1: my head, all right, So JD. Davis give me the
Speaker 1: batting average in the ops. That's all I care about,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: He plays sixty four games, his batting average is two
Speaker 2: thirty six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not very special, no, And I gotta look
Speaker 1: over here.
Speaker 2: Actually, you know what this is? What I want to
Speaker 2: give you, I'm I'm gonna give you these two numbers.
Speaker 2: These are even better. His slugging is three forty three,
Speaker 2: certainly not special, and he has three homers on the year.
Speaker 1: There you go, three homers on the year and the
Speaker 1: ops is sixty six six the mawk of the beast.
Speaker 2: By the way, his tray coup percentage almost thirty two
Speaker 2: percent as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah that is special, but that's special special all right.
Speaker 1: What else is special? Is a moment in the dugout
Speaker 1: the cups, Well, it's the contraras Ian happened an emotional
Speaker 1: goodbye hugs. They both expect to be gone next week.
Speaker 1: So uh, this is another set of players here. Like
Speaker 1: Ian Happ as a player I've always liked. I always
Speaker 1: feel like Ian hapwould benefit from more lineup protection in
Speaker 1: a good spot. I always like the player. I think
Speaker 1: the skill set is interesting. I still think he might
Speaker 1: be one of these later bloomer guys. That is, his
Speaker 1: career goes on. He's just gonna get better and better.
Speaker 1: And Contreras is at his peak right now. So if
Speaker 1: you are somebody that has Contraras and he gets dealt,
Speaker 1: is that a time? In keeper leagues to look to
Speaker 1: move on from Wilson Contreers. Do you see Wilson Contreres
Speaker 1: being this piece like this is the peak value in
Speaker 1: fantasy too, not just reality. And if he goes to Againtender,
Speaker 1: maybe I can cash in and get a lot, Maybe
Speaker 1: I can get Adlie Rutchman plus and a whole lot
Speaker 1: of things like that. Is that something you'd be looking
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: If that's the case, I would listen for sure. I
Speaker 2: don't know if I would be I think the first
Speaker 2: thing of what you said, if I would put him
Speaker 2: out there and see what the lay of the land
Speaker 2: is and if someone wants to really overpay me, I
Speaker 2: would be in for that on a catcher, especially getting
Speaker 2: a young guy or let's say I just had another one.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if I would be looking to
Speaker 2: necessarily jump completely off the train. Long term, the destination
Speaker 2: he goes to, there could be a lot more run support,
Speaker 2: There could be a lot more RBI opportunities, It could
Speaker 2: be a more hitter friendly environment of where he gets
Speaker 2: traded to. He is also, I believe, a free agent
Speaker 2: after this year, so we also don't know where he's
Speaker 2: going to go just because someone trades for him. Doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that's where he is, and that makes a trade
Speaker 2: for him complicated because you don't know, like how deep
Speaker 2: is someone willing to pay for probably one of the
Speaker 2: better catchers in baseball right now on a small buy.
Speaker 2: So that's where I get stuck with him a little bit.
Speaker 2: But I would put it out there see if anybody,
Speaker 2: but I would probably rather hold at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, I don't think anyone's giving up adle for
Speaker 2: Wilson Treres in really any redraft. I mean to be
Speaker 2: redraft a little bit, but I even think redraft people
Speaker 2: would probably halt bad. Let pretty dang good.
Speaker 1: He's pretty dang good. But Caturis is more accomplished. We
Speaker 1: all know that. Yeah, sure, just something too, something to
Speaker 1: think about, something to ponder there. All right, let's move
Speaker 1: on here to some more baseball stuff. Let's do some
Speaker 1: stat heroes here. Pablo Lopez was very good last night,
Speaker 1: seven innings, one earned eleven k's against the Reds. Hunter
Speaker 1: Green wasn't too bad in this game either, for the record,
Speaker 1: just pointing that out, what's that.
Speaker 2: You didn't give?
Speaker 1: You didn't he lost to one. Pablo Lopez apparently on
Speaker 1: the block as well. Now this is a picture, talk
Speaker 1: about like win potential if you drop him in an
Speaker 1: offense that actually scores a run or two a game,
Speaker 1: My goodness, this could be a huge swing for him.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on a potential landing spot for
Speaker 1: Pablo Lopez and what that would do for his value?
Speaker 1: I already want to see him go.
Speaker 2: I saw Mish talking about this and saying that he
Speaker 2: might have actually pitched his last one. But again, this
Speaker 2: is one of those like he's they got to give up.
Speaker 2: It's gotta be a huge hault that they're going to
Speaker 2: give up. Maybe this is coming back to the loo
Speaker 2: I get. I feel like Mantes and Castillo kind of
Speaker 2: run the market and then there's the loser's bracket of
Speaker 2: who can get what. But I just don't feel like
Speaker 2: Pablo Lopez is going to come cheap. Like the Yankees
Speaker 2: would be a really interesting team to go digging around
Speaker 2: at Pablo Lopez right now, you know, aln l. Not
Speaker 2: that it, you know, actually matters really anymore, but just
Speaker 2: being able to move far off. Yankees have been attached
Speaker 2: to some pitchers. I think that one would make a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of sense, use you know, trade off some
Speaker 2: of those young pieces over to the Marlins. Yankees also
Speaker 2: have a plethora of guys that are like near the
Speaker 2: precipice that they could trade over to the Marlins. Hayden
Speaker 2: was new Ski, ken walda Chuck or a couple of
Speaker 2: pictures that bit older. They've they've got like three or
Speaker 2: four more and then they've got a bevy of these
Speaker 2: prospects they're not Anthony Volpi again, that are closer to
Speaker 2: come up. What what a mind blow would be though?
Speaker 2: What if you had a Pablo Lopez for just like
Speaker 2: a Jason Dimingez and another piece. What if they just
Speaker 2: moved off of Domingas. I mean, because again you talk
Speaker 2: about the young, controllable pictures. The cost I don't think
Speaker 2: is something.
Speaker 1: Well, two more years on Pablo Lopez, by the way,
Speaker 1: he's arbitration eligible in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: It cost twenty five. I'm almost I almost guarantee it
Speaker 2: would cost Jason.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a move they want to
Speaker 1: make yet. I don't think the Yankees are there. Do
Speaker 1: you do you think they are there?
Speaker 2: I think the Yankees are there. With how Judge has
Speaker 2: been playing this year.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if you get Lopez for two
Speaker 1: years and you can think, Okay, this is a player
Speaker 1: we think long term we could sign. Okay, maybe, but
Speaker 1: what helps.
Speaker 2: Us, what's helped what helps them long term? Having a
Speaker 2: picture like Pablo Lopez in that rotation they just said
Speaker 2: more injuries by the way, with Luis Severino or sitting
Speaker 2: on the Jason Dimingo stuff, which I think Justin Minga
Speaker 2: is still a great talent, but you know, is he
Speaker 2: game changing that they're gonna have in their lineup sooner
Speaker 2: rather than like, I don't know. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: it's tough to trade those type of players, but boy,
Speaker 2: I feel like that would get something that would get
Speaker 2: the Marlins going immediately.
Speaker 1: Well, if you're the Yankees, do you want a trade
Speaker 1: Chason Dimingez for Luis Castillo for Pablo Lopez.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a really really good one. I'm probably
Speaker 2: Luis Castillo. But that's why I'm saying, if if the
Speaker 2: Yankees do miss out on that market, it's tough, it's tough.
Speaker 2: I just think Jason Dimingez is on that chopping block
Speaker 2: this year to be involved in a really really big trade,
Speaker 2: whether it was with Soto or it's about getting one
Speaker 2: of these controllable pitchers.
Speaker 1: The Yankees are in a tough spot here because now
Speaker 1: that Stanton's hurt again too, and and you know, you've
Speaker 1: lost some pieces in the bullpen. The Yankees are starting
Speaker 1: to and and this is something I talked about the
Speaker 1: wagering side of things when the VP show, which is, look,
Speaker 1: the Yankees have got a great first half. That's the
Speaker 1: first half. Season's always two halves, and as great as
Speaker 1: you are, that's typically an unsustainable pace. And you're gonna
Speaker 1: have have more bad luck, You're gonna have injuries and
Speaker 1: all these things. And now it's starting to come true
Speaker 1: a little bit. Now. I'm not saying the Yankees aren't
Speaker 1: a contender. Of course they are. I'm not saying the
Speaker 1: Yankees won't do everything they can to stay a contender.
Speaker 1: The interesting piece, though, is is they have to now
Speaker 1: have this moment where they look themselves in the mirror
Speaker 1: and say, are we the old Yankees that's going to
Speaker 1: continue to trade our future away to win now, which
Speaker 1: is what Steinbrenner used to do, right, Or are we
Speaker 1: this new Yankees that No, we value our young players
Speaker 1: and we're gonna keep working the win because the more.
Speaker 1: You've done that over these last few years. You know,
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine is further and further away in
Speaker 1: the rearview mirror. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm not just saying, but they can get away with
Speaker 2: making big impact trades without trading their best player, which
Speaker 2: is Anthony Volpi. They have so many pitchers. I think
Speaker 2: you could do. Because the chat is really blown up
Speaker 2: about how they need an outfield, You're absolutely right, Well,
Speaker 2: there's cheap outfield that we had. David Peralta is someone
Speaker 2: with the Diamondbacks plays gold glove defense.
Speaker 1: Brian Reynolds.
Speaker 2: That would be an interesting fit, like cost A bunch More.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he does. He's not such a
Speaker 1: bad year. I don't know.
Speaker 2: If he does, he would he younger.
Speaker 1: He's like to me, he reminds me of like the
Speaker 1: new Brick Gardner. He could be that guy.
Speaker 2: For that, I think the Yankees could. Let's just an
Speaker 2: hypothetical world, Domingaz and a piece goes gets you Pablo Lopez,
Speaker 2: then they go to the Diamondbacks. They can trade off
Speaker 2: maybe one triple a pitcher or a low piece to
Speaker 2: get David Peralta, and now you've got Peralta and Pablo
Speaker 2: Lopez to you know, breathe life into that entire team.
Speaker 2: Where Boston Red Sox are not going to be heavy competing,
Speaker 2: we can question are the Rays going to be really
Speaker 2: heavy into it? I think the Yankees can just kind
Speaker 2: of roll and then Toronto. You know what, what does
Speaker 2: Toronto really have in their back pocket here? I think
Speaker 2: those two would be really interesting trades, one more expensive,
Speaker 2: one cheap. I personally just think Brian REYLDS would cost
Speaker 2: a decent amount more, where Peralta is just one of
Speaker 2: those really cheap is not young, but cheap, good defenders,
Speaker 2: solid backspark major leaguers that they could make that doesn't
Speaker 2: cost you a whole bunch.
Speaker 1: Kegan Thompson's seven strikeouts over seven innings, no earned runs,
Speaker 1: I believe that was your.
Speaker 2: K prop over yet straight well, that one of that
Speaker 2: was one of the problems.
Speaker 1: Seane McClanahan seven keys of his own seven innings to
Speaker 1: earn run. Spencer Strider was good. Yesterday we talked about
Speaker 1: Garcia and Springer. Canilario with a home run, so de
Speaker 1: Darius say Suzuki sighting a home run for him, show
Speaker 1: he Otania another dinger, another feather in his cap Michael
Speaker 1: Harris for a home run as well as Byron Bucks.
Speaker 1: Says Michael Harris the National League Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 2: Now, uh yeah, I'm in for that. I am absolutely
Speaker 2: in for Michael Harre Do we have the are you
Speaker 2: were you saying it definitively or were you sing is
Speaker 2: in it?
Speaker 1: It was a question, but it might be rhetorical at
Speaker 1: this point. I'm gonna go look and see what the
Speaker 1: odds are.
Speaker 2: I think the Braves, I think on both sides, the
Speaker 2: brave Spencer Strider and Michael Harris should probably be one
Speaker 2: two for Rookie of the Year in the n That's the.
Speaker 1: Tough part is the cannibalization of each other in that spot.
Speaker 1: Spencer Strider's plus one forty five, Michael Harris is plus
Speaker 1: two forty right now.
Speaker 2: And those are the top two.
Speaker 1: Those are the top two.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: So I would go with Michael Harris. I go with
Speaker 1: the position player personal.
Speaker 2: Harris is Harris unbelievable, Harris unfreaking believable, and moved him
Speaker 2: so far up in my last update last month for
Speaker 2: redraft in for Dynasty, and it's just going to keep going.
Speaker 2: He just does it. He is one of the most
Speaker 2: consistent rookies that really has the skill sets as well
Speaker 2: to not get into major major struggles, unlike some of
Speaker 2: these other guys.
Speaker 1: These are resides a Milwaukee Penguin or right too. Happ
Speaker 1: would be an interesting fit for the Yanks as well.
Speaker 2: I think so. I completely agree with that. Again, I
Speaker 2: just don't.
Speaker 1: Maybe if you like somebody like that, I you know, if.
Speaker 2: You take off the Pablo Lopez side of it, have's
Speaker 2: just gonna cost a bit. And I think Hap would
Speaker 2: be a great move if they don't want to go
Speaker 2: get Actually, you know what I would say this, if
Speaker 2: they don't go and get like a Bablo Lopez, I
Speaker 2: think Happ makes the most sense of any trade for them,
Speaker 2: I really really do. I think that makes a ton
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: Carlos Rodon was no boy.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Five earned run, six innings for him. There's been some
Speaker 1: interesting articles written too about why the Giants should trade
Speaker 1: Carlos Rodan, which I thought was a fascinating read. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've read any of those. Now Arnola
Speaker 1: six innings, five earned for him. Jorge Montgomery was not good.
Speaker 1: Give up some home runs there to the Mets four
Speaker 1: earned in two a third, Jady Martinez oh for three
Speaker 1: three k's, Willia Damas over four three k's, Monsey over
Speaker 1: four three k's down to one fifty eight. Our biggest
Speaker 1: fade going into the year is probably Max Monsey. That
Speaker 1: looks good right about now. Arcelo Zuna still can't get
Speaker 1: right over four three k's. They have to figure something
Speaker 1: out with him. It might be bench time for him. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you, rond A Kunya oh for five with
Speaker 1: a K. And look now that they lost you vall,
Speaker 1: maybe the braves are in the market too. When we
Speaker 1: don't realize for another bad if al Zuna doesn't turn
Speaker 1: things around quick either on Neil over five with one k,
Speaker 1: same for dj le Mayhew and Rowdy telez Uh. And
Speaker 1: of course let's go to bet MGM, the King of
Speaker 1: sports books, bet ten dollars to win two hundred regardless
Speaker 1: of the outcome, with the promo code leading off again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: bet MGM promo code leading off. That is one word.
Speaker 1: Go make some wagers, Go go put some money on
Speaker 1: some stuff here. I don't know is this the updated
Speaker 1: home run board we have here? I don't, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't think it is, but I will I do
Speaker 1: flash it anyway. Is this up to date, doesn't you know?
Speaker 2: Let me let me compare it against what they said.
Speaker 2: It is not because Mayor has a thirty so that's
Speaker 2: an old one.
Speaker 1: I think Ethan is on vacation. I think this is
Speaker 1: why we don't have that Ethan who does all of
Speaker 1: our boards. I think he's taking a little time, as
Speaker 1: he should. It's very important we should. But so thank
Speaker 1: you Mike Maher for making sure that the show is
Speaker 1: all ready to go today. Like you have one job,
Speaker 1: like really, like seriously one thing. I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: all right, let's get to some of the props. Corbyn
Speaker 1: burns seven and a half on the k prop minus
Speaker 1: one twenty six you're getting against the Minnesota Twins. I
Speaker 1: think you can go well over this tonight against the Twinkies.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Max Surezer bet MGM. Seven and a half is his number,
Speaker 1: that is minus one thirty five Max Schurzer's birthday. I
Speaker 1: like this one as well. Also, John Gray, don't sleep
Speaker 1: on this one. At sugar House. Six and a half
Speaker 1: is the number minus one forty eight. He has been
Speaker 1: excellent lately, John Gray, Jose Ramirez one and a half
Speaker 1: total basis even money you're getting on DK. Same with
Speaker 1: Vlad even money as well on the one and a
Speaker 1: half total basis Welsh, what do you got tonight?
Speaker 2: I like that Corbyn burns one a couple here, gi Alito,
Speaker 2: you're getting even money on strikeouts four and a half,
Speaker 2: pretty low number. I think I pretty comfortable with that.
Speaker 2: Andrew Haney returning four and a half strikeouts. I kind
Speaker 2: of dig that one, even though I know it's Washington.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna come out strong. Luis Castillo five
Speaker 2: and a half strikeouts on the over, those are all
Speaker 2: ones I like. And Mookie Betts total base one and
Speaker 2: a half over I would dig that one. So those
Speaker 2: are a couple of my bets.
Speaker 1: Can you dig it? All right? Let's get to the
Speaker 1: starting pitchers tonight for DFS again, keep it sim bolt
Speaker 1: a short slate. Leuis Castillo was a huge value on DK.
Speaker 1: Could be his last start at a very important one
Speaker 1: and the one against the terrible Marlins offense. So yes,
Speaker 1: eight point nine K sign me up all of the
Speaker 1: Luis Castillo tonight. Don't get fancy, don't get smart for
Speaker 1: your own good paramout matchers are at ten point six.
Speaker 1: You can find offense with the Mets in Cleveland. There's
Speaker 1: some guys in the lower part of that lineup that
Speaker 1: you can roster. So give me Mets, give me Cleveland,
Speaker 1: the Stacks, give me Castillo, and shows are on DK,
Speaker 1: on FanDuel. Different pricing here. Castillo is ten point six,
Speaker 1: much different. So you can have your best Castillo lineup,
Speaker 1: or you can go with Kevin Gossman and pivot off
Speaker 1: of that and have some differential because say Lewis does
Speaker 1: not have their normal bats in there, right, No Ernando,
Speaker 1: no gold Schmith in Toronto. So I would take advantage
Speaker 1: of that with Kevin Gosman at ten point four. So
Speaker 1: do a Gossman lineup a Castillo lineup? Sure's there's a
Speaker 1: whole thousand dollars more, So I would fade away from
Speaker 1: that because that's really expensive. It's tough to get a
Speaker 1: good lineup in there. All right, let's go to uh
Speaker 1: who we like for home runs today? I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with Jose Ramirez. That is my pick. Welch, how about you?
Speaker 1: Where you go?
Speaker 2: I wish you would have stuck with you.
Speaker 1: Well, what happened was I was copying and pasting and
Speaker 1: a copy and paste Max Scherzer, who is not gonna
Speaker 1: take So.
Speaker 2: When I saw that, I was like, this is I
Speaker 2: think you're gonna get twenty points. You get twenty home
Speaker 2: run points if comes into.
Speaker 1: The games are on his birthday notes Jose Ramirez, But
Speaker 1: the cut and pasting it still had mac Scherzer's name
Speaker 1: attached to it.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go with Moke. Patrick Corbyn is pitching
Speaker 2: for the Nationals. I repeat, Patrick Corbin is pitching for
Speaker 2: the Nationals. Molk kids, I think around three fifteen against lefties,
Speaker 2: So I'll take that leadoff spot. I will take him
Speaker 2: against Korby Love the total base marker. I'm actually gonna
Speaker 2: bet it as soon as we're done with this, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the home run call on MOOKI
Speaker 2: bets JD.
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