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Speaker 1: Welcome in What Drive with Nick Wright Episode four fifty eight.

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Speaker 1: This episode of What driv Nick Reid is presented to

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Speaker 1: you by boost Mobile Demons. You are twenty seven years old.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Good to see you, Good morning, and you

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Speaker 1: have been really heavily following the NBA on a day

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Speaker 1: to day basis. For I would say, since you're around twenty,

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Speaker 1: you were a casual fan as a teenager, which means

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Speaker 1: last night might have been the best game you've ever

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Speaker 1: seen start to finish live.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I like it as long as I can remember.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking of some Pacers, some Pacers games last year,

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Speaker 2: but as far as just like those games had.

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Speaker 1: Some unbelievable finishes and like we're shocking endings, and they

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Speaker 1: had the entire playoffs, but the entire the the back

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Speaker 1: and forth of it, the high level of play Wimby

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Speaker 1: absolutely unequivocally snatching Shay's chain with a vengeance, all of it.

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Speaker 1: And so that is going to be We're going to

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Speaker 1: do something today that we've rarely done, which is the

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Speaker 1: vast majority of the show will not only be on

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Speaker 1: one basketball game, but we are also going to I

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Speaker 1: laid out like twenty play by play time score, situation

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Speaker 1: moments from the final few minutes of regulation, plus the

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Speaker 1: two overtimes that we're going to use to discuss the

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Speaker 1: game as a whole. We have all of that. We

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Speaker 1: will do a little Eastern Conference Finals preview because Sneaky

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Speaker 1: de demanse this did occur to me watching yesterday's last

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Speaker 1: night's epic that the biggest winner was obviously the Spurs

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Speaker 1: and Wimby, and the second biggest winner might have been

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Speaker 1: the Knicks. There might be a path here for this

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Speaker 1: if all seven games of this series have the feel

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Speaker 1: and the physicality and the intensity of what we saw

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Speaker 1: last night. If the Knicks can get out of the

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Speaker 1: East unscathed relatively quickly, they might be able to might

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Speaker 1: be able to jump on whoever just got out of

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Speaker 1: the seven game war if it is a seven game

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Speaker 1: more out West, so we'll get into that. Well. No,

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Speaker 1: if the Calves beat the Knicks, then this is the

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Speaker 1: NBA Finals that we're watching. This probably already is the

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Speaker 1: NBA Finals that we're watching. But the Knicks acquitted themselves

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Speaker 1: well against the Spurs in the regular season, and I

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Speaker 1: believe the thunder as well, so we can we'll get

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Speaker 1: into that and I'm gonna do five minutes, no more

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Speaker 1: than that on Steven A versus Jalen Brown, because it's

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Speaker 1: gotten to a point of absurdity where even though we

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Speaker 1: are a week out from the Sports Emmys, where I'm

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Speaker 1: these people, I have no I must address it. So

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Speaker 1: all of that coming up first though, straight to voicemail,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by your friends at boost Mobile. Schams

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Speaker 1: reports MVP people get upset about it. I don't totally

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Speaker 1: understand that I knew Trevor Lawrence didn't actually cut his hair.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna be legit and nervous about the Jags

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Speaker 1: had he cut his hair, especially because that's not a

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Speaker 1: good haircut. But that was fake. And first things first,

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Speaker 1: headed to the NDY five hundred tomorrow, which means Thursday,

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Speaker 1: we are going to try the always precarious live shows

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Speaker 1: from a hotel room. We'll see all that works. But

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Speaker 1: we got, you know, we've got to be able to

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Speaker 1: react to Game two of this series. But that's the plan.

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Speaker 1: But demanse double overtime Game one Western Conference Finals. Let's

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Speaker 1: get right into it.

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Speaker 2: So we witnessed some cinema last night between the Spurs

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Speaker 2: and the Thunder. Somebody finally gave a thunder or run

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Speaker 2: for their money. So comings in the series, A big

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Speaker 2: question was Victor Wumanyama. Would he be tired able to

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Speaker 2: balance in these games? Once a doublet He obviously was

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Speaker 2: not tired. Should we overreact to this game? Where are

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Speaker 1: I don't think listen, it's overreacting to the game would

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Speaker 1: be saying the series is over. I don't believe that

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Speaker 1: is the case. But I want to talk about Wimby

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Speaker 1: for a second. It'll be more than a second. We're

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Speaker 1: going to talk a lot about Wimby today. But a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago on this podcast, during one of

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Speaker 1: our mail bag episodes, I was asked the question, what's

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Speaker 1: the greatest a player can be all time rankings wise

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Speaker 1: I give this take, people get very very mad. But

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Speaker 1: I explained how I have Kobe Bryant firmly in the

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Speaker 1: league MVP and in two thousand and nine. In twenty ten,

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Speaker 1: people having that opinion, But the reason I don't feel

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Speaker 1: points twenty nine of thirty in the Eastern Conference Finals

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Speaker 1: and to without at that moment, I'm Lebron James had

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Speaker 1: never won an MVP, had never played in a finals game,

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Speaker 1: I watched the fucking game and I said, that guy,

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Speaker 1: I'm watching Victor windban Yama and I and I'm saying

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Speaker 1: interested as the internet seems to be in is Wimby

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Speaker 1: going to make the Lebron Jordan debate obsolete? We should

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Speaker 1: check in on that in you know, ten to twenty years.

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Speaker 1: That's not that that is not in the short or

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Speaker 1: even medium term achievable. That's a separate that's a long

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Speaker 1: something for you. And to Demands's point, he's a guy

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Speaker 1: went into double overtime at forty four minutes, played the

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Speaker 2: It was his best player by a mile.

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Speaker 1: And I thought, listen, I was live tweeting at the

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Speaker 1: He channeled something extra and that shot he hit from

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Speaker 1: that happened to be in the regular season, but it

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Speaker 1: it Wimby, who had only taken one three all game,

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Speaker 1: down three in overtime, jarring that shot, and then in

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Speaker 1: double overtime adding nine more. It is quite simply the

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Speaker 1: think have a very good handle on what my wimby

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Speaker 1: and most of my pumping the breaks has been about concern,

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Speaker 1: because I really believe in sports, the all time greats,

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Speaker 1: Last night, he went into the building of the up

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Speaker 1: going to be much like in my opinion, Lebron took

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Speaker 1: then he got hurt again, and he hasn't been the

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to wrestle this thing out of

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Speaker 1: to every team in the league that wants to win

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Speaker 1: No? I think probably seven to six is his best attribute,

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Speaker 1: But I think competitiveness is up there. I think that.

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Speaker 1: And on the competitiveness side, it was perfect how he

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Speaker 1: certainly arguable, had arguably demanse the greatest individual season any

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Speaker 1: He one Defensive Player of the Year, He won League MVP.

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Speaker 1: and he did it with zero teammate two were All stars.

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four nineteen ninety five. The Rockets is defending champs,

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Speaker 1: Wimby outplayed Chet, Wimby outplayed Chet but fouled out. The

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Speaker 1: Don went on to write, never gonna match him as

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Speaker 1: But uh so that was the thing, and I tweeted it.

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Speaker 2: Shay Sga played fifty one minutes, went seven of twenty

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Speaker 1: Usually when a guy has eight turnovers, it's one of

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Speaker 1: some nights you won't get the calls.

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Speaker 1: Just just real quick. Some nights you won't get the calls.

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Speaker 1: little shamed. Yeah, Like I honest to god, I do

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Speaker 1: I think Shane. You know, remember when he did the

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Speaker 1: I don't need it. I think Shaye Strikes is someone

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00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: who is who is quite online right, and I think

432
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: he's even if he's not, he was aware of what

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00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: was being said and he's like, all right, I'm gonna

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00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: show you guys. Which credit to him for cutting down

435
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: some of the drifting, but it it does make him

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00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: a little less unstoppable. Now I would expect him in

437
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: Game two to come out and score thirty five. He

438
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: is a great player all year long. I said he

439
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: was the MVP, so I don't want to get this

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00:32:54,920 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: shit twisted. But he needed those overtimes to score twenty.

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00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: And I made this point for I'll make it again.

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00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,239
Speaker 1: For a guy that for two straight regular seasons has

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Speaker 1: scored twenty every single time and was this close to

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Speaker 1: having his fifth postseason game in the same time, for

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00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: him not scoring twenty, it's noteworthy. I also think Shae

446
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: might have just had the shortest tenure of best player

447
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: alive in the history of any sport. It really felt

448
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: like it was from the well, I mean because it was.

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00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: I think most people felt it was Joker going into

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00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: this postseason, right, Yeah, and then Joker loses and it's

451
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: kind of like up for grabs there, well, it's kind

452
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: of up for grabs and then Wimby as his bad

453
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 1: moment with the elbow. Shaye gets announced his MVP and

454
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: it felt like the moment like he was handed the trophy.

455
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, it's the two time MVP, the

456
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: defending champs, their huge favorite. Congratulations, you're the best player alive.

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00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: Might have been like fifteen minutes bro and By and

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00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: by the end of the first quarter it's like, nope,

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00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: it's the other guy. And so I don't even know

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Speaker 1: how that how that works out. All right, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about who I thought was the second best player on

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Speaker 1: the Spurs last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Dylan, how Harper found out that he's gonna

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00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: be starting an hour before the game? Do you think

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00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: that dearon Fox got Drew bledsoe.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he got Drew bloodshote. And I

467
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: think they're gonna keep taking putting, you know, taking Harper

468
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: off the bench when Fox gets back. Here's what and

469
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: this is the maybe prisoner of the moment take from

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Speaker 1: me to Monse. I would rather moving forward have the

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00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: Spurs Big three over the Thunder Big three. And it's

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00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: not close.

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Speaker 2: Yeah what no, No, of it easy just because I mean,

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Speaker 2: just honestly for me, just because we He's in there,

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00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: like you.

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Speaker 1: Had the okay, so let's do it like. So let

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Speaker 1: me ask this though. Let me ask this though, because

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00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: maybe the Wimby part is too tilting. Remove Wimby and

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00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: remove Shay Harper and Castle versus Chet and Jade. Yeah, Man,

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Speaker 1: Dylan Harper is twenty years old in his first playoff run. Ever,

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Speaker 1: what did he I know he had seven steals? What

482
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Speaker 1: did he have like? Twenty one four, seven and seven

483
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: something insane? Last night? I'm gonna look real quick, twenty

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Speaker 1: four No I short changed him Monem twenty four points,

485
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: eleven rebound, six assists, seven steals, one turnal, a plus fourteen.

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Speaker 2: The biggest game of his life. Found out he was

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Speaker 2: starting an hour before the game.

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Speaker 1: Man, he was spectacular. And so I mean that is

489
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: found gold for a team that moved way up in

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Speaker 1: the lottery last year. And you know I would we

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Speaker 1: we discussed for the midway through the year because remember

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Speaker 1: he went two and kN K Nipple went three and

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Speaker 1: the Spurs didn't really have enough shooting. We thought maybe

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Speaker 1: that would the Spurs have if they had to do

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Speaker 1: it over again, would they flip flop it? The answer

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00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: to that is no, they would not. Yeah, the and

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Speaker 1: so and then the other story of the game, obviously

498
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Speaker 1: was Alex Crusoe who Rob Blinka once. There's an unbelievable

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Speaker 1: clip going all around of Alex Crusoe on a podcast

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Speaker 1: discussing the Lakers lowballing him to keep Taylor Horton Tucker

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Speaker 1: and that's why he went to the Bulls. No, that

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Speaker 1: is true. That is true after they won a championship

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00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: And he's you know, he is kindly but pretty clearly

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Speaker 1: ripping Rob Blinka for what he did on this podcast.

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Speaker 1: And the host of that podcast, who is cackling along

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Speaker 1: with him, JJ Reddick. That's true. Whoa yeah, I remember

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Speaker 1: All right, Demanse, let's go. There's a bunch of these.

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Speaker 1: Let's go through the play by play. You tell me

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Speaker 1: the time, score situation, and I'm gonna, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of take everybody back through it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, uh, three twenty left in regulation, Caruso cutting layup

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00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: to cut it to one ninety one ninety Spurs is

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00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: part of a ten to two. Okay, see run.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is where because the this was the

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Speaker 1: first moment it felt like, man, the thunder might steal this.

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Speaker 1: The The Spurs had basically been in control for the

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Speaker 1: entirety of the second half, but Caruso kept answering every thunder,

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00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: every Spurs run with a huge three, and that is

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00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: an adjustment. I wonder if the Spurs if they're gonna

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Speaker 1: make an adjustment or not. They basically had Wimby on Crusoe,

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Speaker 1: which means no one was on Crusoe because Wimby's patrolling

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Speaker 1: the paint. Caruso got open threes. This was his one layup.

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Speaker 1: Now it's a one point game.

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Speaker 2: Next two minutes left ninety four ninety two Spurs Wimby

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Speaker 2: goes full truck sticking to Caruso.

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Speaker 1: So in that moment I thought Wimby had lost his cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I also was watching to say, oh, man, are

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00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: they going to make this a flagrant foul? I didn't

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Speaker 1: think they I didn't think they should, but I thought

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00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: it was on the board because it seemed so bizarre,

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00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: like it you're allowed to run full speed into a guy, but.

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Speaker 2: Because looked at him, it looked like like he.

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00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: Looked at him and lowered his shoulder. And the reason

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Speaker 1: that was noteworthy was because Wimby is at two flagrant

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Speaker 1: foul points and at four you're suspended for a game.

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Speaker 1: So had they made that a flagrant foul, Wimby would

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Speaker 1: have had no margin of error. They didn't. They just

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00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: make an offensive foul and Crusoe, you know, response singing

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Speaker 1: run over with this go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Uh one, Crusoe three to put okc up nine four,

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00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: And then that was immediately answered by Champagne.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I the Champagne three, with a little more

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Speaker 1: than a minute left after Okay finally took the lead,

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00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: was one of like seven shots by san Antonio that

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00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: if they miss, I think they lose. But he made it.

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00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: They had a two uh, they had a two point lead.

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00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: It then is tied.

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00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: With a minute left, go ahead minute left in and

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00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 2: game OKAC forces a turnover as a two on one.

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00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: SGA keeps it and smokes the layup.

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Speaker 1: All right, do you remember the play I'm talking about,

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00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: Demanse Caruso is running, pass it to him and that

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Speaker 1: he has Carusoe wide open ahead, inexplicably keeps it, And

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Speaker 1: that to me was as bad as any play SGA

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Speaker 1: made all game where you've got the guy open, yeah,

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00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: and it's to take a lead. It's also, by the way,

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Speaker 1: the guy who's opened has been the best player on

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Speaker 1: your team thus far. And he kept it and then

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00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: didn't make the layup, so we're still tied with twelve

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Speaker 1: seconds left to go.

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00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: Out of sorts, twelve seconds left in the game, Wimby

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00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: driving spinning layup to take the lead, immediately followed by

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00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 2: an SGA drive by layout with Wimby sucking the corner

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00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: on chip.

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Speaker 1: So that I thought was really interesting because I know

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Speaker 1: the announcers said that Wimby has to stay out there

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Speaker 1: to guard against the three. It did seem but if

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Speaker 1: you watch it again, it did seem like Wimby had

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Speaker 1: decided to come but came a little late. Whatever it was,

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Speaker 1: Stefan Castle thought he had help Baseline. Like Stefan Castle

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Speaker 1: funnels Shay. Stevan Castle is a great defender, Savo Castle

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Speaker 1: funnels Shaye Baseline and then nobody's there. Shay just lays

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Speaker 1: it in. And then that then led to I think

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Speaker 1: a very interesting moment where go.

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Speaker 2: Ahead three seconds, best moment of Chet's life with Sga

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Speaker 2: on the bench Blocksmanby.

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Speaker 1: So shout out to Chad. It's the only highlighted at

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Speaker 1: all game. I I still have a bit of a

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00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: hard time with the visual of the reigning league MVP

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Speaker 1: being subbed out for offense defense. And this is now

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Speaker 1: since twenty fifteen, Yeah, there have been twelve MVP awards awarded,

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Speaker 1: so to speak, right I said that, correctly, seven of

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Speaker 1: those awards have gone to three guys who now all

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Speaker 1: of whom I have seen this happen to Steph Joker

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Speaker 1: and surprisingly now Shay, where the coaches like really need

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Speaker 1: a stop, not saying you're a bad defender, just saying

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Speaker 1: we have five right now, we have five better than you.

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Speaker 1: That was that was something, And listen, I think Shaye's

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Speaker 1: a good defensive player, but much like you know, a

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Speaker 1: different six to six, super efficient thirty point a game

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Speaker 1: shooting guard uh from a previous era. I think his

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Speaker 1: defense has been a touch over rated, and he is

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Speaker 1: consistently not tasked with guarding the other players, the other

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Speaker 1: team's best player or sometimes even second best player. And

642
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: I thought it was really noteworthy that they said, we've

643
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: got listen, we want our two big so be it.

644
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: We want Chet and Hartenstein out there, but we have

645
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: three perimeter defenders we'd rather have out there than Shay,

646
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: which takes us to ot go ahead.

647
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: After a five to ozer run by Okay, Seeds take

648
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: one point lead. Okay See gets a steal off Castle's

649
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: eleven turnover, and AJ Mitchell takes a transition three with

650
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:28,479
Speaker 2: ninety seconds left.

651
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: This was the second worst shot of the game. The

652
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: Spurs had control of the first overtime. Oka See goes

653
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: on a five to zero run all of a sudden,

654
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: The Spurs I think, had had four straight empty possessions.

655
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: There's ninety seconds left. Ok See has the lead in

656
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: the ball and AJ Mitchell, who had done nothing all game,

657
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: took a slightly off balanced early shot clock transition three brutal.

658
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: Just like for the Thunder, You've got to in that spot,

659
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: slow down, have the ball either in Shay's hands to

660
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: make a decision or Jadub's hands or something. AJ Mitchell

661
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: went for it, missed it, and all of a sudden

662
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: it looks like, oh are the are the Spurs gonna

663
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: steal it back? And then though the Thunder get another stop,

664
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: which leads to.

665
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 2: This, Cruso fights for rebound then throws it off Wimby. Okay,

666
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: see ball up one with one O eight left and

667
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: sga driving dunk puts them up three.

668
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be lost. I thought that was SGA's

669
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: best moment of the game, even better than the game

670
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: tying layup, because that seemed like a bit of a

671
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: coverage bust by the Spurs. Yeah, and and Caruso. That's

672
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: the play where Carusoe is falling out of bounds fires

673
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: it off.

674
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: Wimby when that uh yeah.

675
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: Spurs had a challenge. The Spurs could have called time

676
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: out and challenged, they didn't. And as bad as the A. J.

677
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: Mitchell play was, this next play is the one that's

678
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: going to be really, really tough for the Thunder and

679
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: film study.

680
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 2: Next Okay, C of three with thirty five seconds left,

681
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: Jada has zero pass possession, takes it out rageous pull

682
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: up jumper that misses by three feet and leads to

683
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: the wimby thirty footer. When I seen when I seen

684
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: him take that shot, I was like, that's exactly what

685
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: we need, because I'm rooting against the Spurs this whole series.

686
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: I mean, against the against against the thunder perfect.

687
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I truly could not believe it.

688
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: There's a lot of a lot of time on the

689
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: shot clock still too.

690
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 1: You're up three, There's fifteen seconds on the shot clock.

691
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: There is no two for one component here at all,

692
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: because the Spurs are gonna have to go down and

693
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: try to score as quickly as possible because they're down

694
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: three if you miss, and for there to be zero

695
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: passes and him to take an off balance, contested mid

696
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: range that went all the way hit the other side

697
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: of the backboard was just unfathomable, unfathomable. And then of

698
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: course that leads to the wimby three, which was just

699
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: out of this world. I didn't hate Okay, listen, okay,

700
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: see I think smartly Their next possession. There's twenty six

701
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: seconds left. I think Dagenhault said, we've got to shoot

702
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: this so late on the shot clock because even if

703
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: we make. Even if we make, that doesn't guarantee us

704
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: winning the game Spurs. If we go quick and get

705
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: a bucket, then Spurs have the ball with plenty of

706
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: time down two, they could just beat us in regulation.

707
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: If we wait till the very end, we can make

708
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: sure either we have a walk off winner or the

709
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: Spurs have almost no time. That's what happened. The Spurs

710
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: end up having point seven left. Crusoe gets the block

711
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: at the rim, and we go to double OT. So

712
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: I didn't mind the Thunder's final offensive possession, but that

713
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: Jadab offensive possession was a travesty. Now take us to

714
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Speaker 1: double ot.

715
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: Uh three forty left. Wemby opens up the scoring in

716
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: double overtime with a dribble drive dunk from the top

717
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 2: of the key followed by an SGA miss three.

718
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was that was when you start to

719
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: feel like, uh oh, Wemby might have more in the

720
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: tank than we thought. Still, though, it's only Spurs up

721
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: one at the two minute mark, which leads us to.

722
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 2: This one fifty left after a hard rain and one

723
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 2: to go up four. Sga with a lazy one handed

724
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 2: pand it past that gets stolen.

725
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 1: That's the moment I thought game was over, but it wasn't.

726
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: And if you guys remember Sga is on the near

727
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 1: side of the court, there's a little bit of action.

728
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: I don't understand what he's even trying to do. Throw

729
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: his one handed pasture down four. There's less than two

730
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 1: minutes left. Now you don't have the ball, but still

731
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: you're they end up Okay, I forget who I think.

732
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: Caruso hits another huge three and so it spurs up

733
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 1: one with one oh one left, and then Wimby goes crazy.

734
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: So just you can read the next two. De Monsey up.

735
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: One with one on one, Wimmy gets matched up on

736
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: Cruso gets the dunk and and and then the and

737
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: one and then screams at chet down four forty five

738
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 2: seconds left. Russo has a layup altered by Wimby, check

739
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: gets the rebound and gets blocked by Vassal, leading to

740
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 2: a Wimby alley and that's all she wrote.

741
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was the end, and the AJ Mitchell three,

742
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: the J dow zero pass pull up and Shay not

743
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: passing it up court to Crusoe on the fast break

744
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: are the offensive moments the thunder are gonna say, we

745
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: let this one slip through. Now, with that said, I

746
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: do think it would have been a more devastating loss

747
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: for San Antonio, just given how the game went with

748
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: the Spurs being in control most of the time. But

749
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: this is a hard one to get over for everyone involved.

750
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: All Right, that was an hour on one of the

751
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: best basketball games of the decade. I don't think we

752
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,919
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Speaker 1: All right, demons, go ahead and set up the beef.

766
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: We didn't know we needed so. Jalen Brown against steven A. Smith.

767
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: Confrontation between Jalen Brown and steven A. Smith's been brewing

768
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: after a few comments back and forth, Jalen said on Sunday, Uh,

769
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 2: you want me to be quiet and stop streaming. Well,

770
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: I want you to get off these networks because you're

771
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 2: not using your platform to do real journalism. You're using

772
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: your platform to do clickbait. Tell this guy to retire,

773
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: says something else, and then steven A. Steven A responds,

774
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, be careful what you wish for. You really

775
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: want me to start reporting on that level locker room,

776
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: how the organization might feel about you, how Jason Tatum

777
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: might feel about you. You're on Twitch trying to do

778
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: what I do. It makes no sense. What is your

779
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: take on this story?

780
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, let me just answer stephen A's

781
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: question on Jalen Brown's behalf. Yes, please please, If you

782
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: have real information that is not public that you can

783
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: credibly report about Jason Tatum's feelings about Jalen Brown. You

784
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: should report it if you have real information about the

785
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: Celtics organization how they feel about Jalen Brown that you're

786
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: just sitting on, Yes, you should report it. Like once

787
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 1: upon a time, stephen A was a legitimately great reporter,

788
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: and I have for years defended stephen A when people

789
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 1: act like he didn't put the work in. This guy

790
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: put every level of work in imaginable to get to

791
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: the top of the field, then had it taken from him.

792
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: Kind of had a huge show on ESPN back when

793
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: I was interning at ESPN Radio in New York, when

794
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: he had a show there too, that quite frankly lost

795
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: that and then built it all the way back up

796
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: to where he's the biggest name in the space and

797
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: still works as much as anybody in the business at

798
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 1: all times is working. So there there's a lot of

799
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: stephen A that I think is admirable and young people

800
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:58,439
Speaker 1: can learn from. But these last few years where he

801
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: has convinced himself, it appears that we the commentaryot, we

802
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: the critics, we the people who give uppinions on the

803
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: actual games, are equal stars and equal of importance to

804
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: the people who are playing the actual games is delusional

805
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:42,479
Speaker 1: and Stephen A in this rant, one of the things

806
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: he throws at Jalen Brown is you you're on a

807
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: three hundred million dollar contract. Let's unpack that just a

808
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: bit to just level set the way this thing is

809
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: supposed to work. Jalen Brown is, I don't know, let's

810
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: call him roughly the tenth best player in the NBA.

811
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: I think that's probably about right thereabouts. He is as

812
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: the tenth best player on a three hundred million dollar contract.

813
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: Steven A as the number one guy in the entire

814
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: industry of what we do is on And I only

815
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: know this because he made sure everybody knew it is

816
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: on a one hundred million dollar contract. So will God

817
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: bless him and credit to him? And I appreciate it.

818
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: The rising tide raising all boats. That is a little

819
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: reminder that no matter how big the commentator gets, he'll

820
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: never be quite as big as the people he's commenting on.

821
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: If the tenth or eleventh best guy in just one

822
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: of the sports you cover is by your own metric

823
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: three xing the salary, it's a good idea of where

824
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: we stand in the marketplace, which is why and this

825
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: is the thing. And I don't even really care so

826
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: much about the on court or in stadium walk ins

827
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: where they present stephen A's arrival as if he is

828
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: chat Holmgren. That is fine, that's fine. It's kind of charming.

829
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: It's some would call it cringe, some would call it funny.

830
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: It's whatever, right, it's funny and so like. And there's

831
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: no actual harm in that. There's none but talking to

832
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: these guys like you're a mob boss and they better

833
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: watch what they say. There's harm in it. And I

834
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: am not I am I I am very rarely in

835
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: feel like I am in position to give any senior journalists,

836
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: journalists or commentators or opinionists who are older than me advice.

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00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: I try to give it to younger folks if folks

838
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: ask for it, but I will and listen. Maybe he'll

839
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: be mad, but this is good advice, man. This is

840
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 1: the way this has to work, and the only way

841
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: it works. We can say whatever we're gonna say while

842
00:59:52,400 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: understanding that it is oddly probably good for us professionally

843
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: in the intention economy if folks fire back, but also

844
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: having the understanding that if they fire back that kind

845
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: of ends it. Like I I'll give you my own

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Speaker 1: and I might not have explained that perfectly, but let

847
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: me give you my own little instance here. Right, I

848
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: had the unintentional controversy of calling the mellow ball a clown. Right.

849
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: He didn't fire back, but his friends and family and

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01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: everyone around him did.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And you know what the response to that is, Hey,

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Speaker 1: stand by what I said, But I understand why you

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Speaker 1: guys have his back not you know what, not all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, let's escalate this war.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the reason for that is, and this is where

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Speaker 1: the I think it's good advice. The audience appreciates us

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Speaker 1: as side attractions to the big tent they came for.

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Speaker 1: We are the ring toss and the dunk tank at

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Speaker 1: the circus, but we're not the lion's jumping through flaming hoops.

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Speaker 1: We are added benefit to the main event. And if

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Speaker 1: anybody ever gets it a little twisted that no, actually

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Speaker 1: I'm the main event. In my experience. The audience, even

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Speaker 1: if they think Jalen Brown's twitch streams are absurd, which

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Speaker 1: I think most people do. Even if they think that

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brown has handled his offseason poorly the way I

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Speaker 1: think many people do, are going to see this and

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Speaker 1: be like, wait, what are you saying? Bro? Are you

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Speaker 1: are you telling? Are you telling this superstar athlete to

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Speaker 1: stay in his lane? Are you you know, late fifties,

872
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Speaker 1: early sixty year old man getting in a war of

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Speaker 1: words with a twenty nine year old Is that what's happening?

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Speaker 1: And it makes all of us look bad man? And

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Speaker 1: also here's the other thing. You're the only guy who

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Speaker 1: does it. Like there's like some of the former athletes

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Speaker 1: turned commentators, we'll get in this tet a tet with

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Speaker 1: the athletes. That'll happen, But nobody else is just constantly

879
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Speaker 1: using their platform to run back the same playbook that

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Speaker 1: if we're being totally honest, we saw you run on

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. I want to say almost a decade ago

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Speaker 1: where you stare down the barrel of the camera and

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Speaker 1: you're like, don't make me report what I know. It's like, bro,

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Speaker 1: if you know, report whatever you want. But these veiled

885
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Speaker 1: you don't know how much power I have threats like

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Speaker 1: come on, like really, like what like what are we doing?

887
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Speaker 1: And again I'm not I I you know, I have

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Speaker 1: my own foibles and flaws from ego or as a

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Speaker 1: broadcaster or whatever it is. But I can promise you this.

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Speaker 1: I promise you this that I understand. One of the

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Speaker 1: taxes of being the style of broadcaster that I am,

892
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Speaker 1: which occasionally ruffles some feathers, will occasionally rise to the

893
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Speaker 1: level of the awareness of the people you're talking about,

894
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Speaker 1: is that when they fire back, even if it is

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Speaker 1: in your opinion, an accurate, misleading, unfair, The answer is

896
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Speaker 1: not to go to the mattresses and escalate. The answer

897
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Speaker 1: is to stand by what you said, have a smile

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Speaker 1: on your face, and recognize people are here to see them.

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Speaker 1: They they are so popular and so important in the

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901
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Speaker 1: only value being talking about them. That's the that's and

902
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Speaker 1: if if you want to change that paradigm, then you

903
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Speaker 1: have to move from commentator to actual performer to the

904
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Speaker 1: you know, to use the Teddy Roosevelt or Franklin Roosevelt.

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Speaker 1: I always get this wrong. Producers check me on this.

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Speaker 1: Which Roosevelt is. I want to know, but it's the

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Speaker 1: the guys who are like you. It's also one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons bigger picture take. Then we'll move on. I

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921
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Speaker 1: I know technically it's my job to report the things

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Speaker 2: Game one of the Eastern Conference Finals. Tonight you major

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Speaker 2: series pick on TV for game one? Do we think

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Speaker 2: we remember the Knicks offense was humming, but they've had

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a break. Do you think that

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Speaker 2: they'll have a little bit of rust coming into this series.

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01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: They might have a little bit of Russ, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think I think what will matter more is Cleveland's

995
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: got to be spent back to back seven game series.

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01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: The history of that is not good. I think the

997
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Speaker 1: only team ever to make the finals after back to

998
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: back seven game round ones is the eight Celtics, and

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01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: the emotion of those first two rounds, I think that'll

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Speaker 1: work against them. OG is also supposed to play. I

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Speaker 1: do want to ask you one question on this, Demanse,

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Speaker 1: who do you think is better Jalen Brunson or Donovan Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: Oh? I honestly, I feel like I feel like Jalen

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Speaker 2: Brunson might be a little bit more consistent than Donovan Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: So I agree with you. I'd rather have Jalen. It's

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Speaker 1: very close, but I agree with you. The reason I

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Speaker 1: ask is the Knicks so desperately wanted to get Donovan.

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01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: He got traded to the Calves, and Jalen ended up

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Speaker 1: being like the consolation prize. And now I think Jalen's

1010
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 1: been a touch better. Yeah, now that can flip in

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01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 1: this series, but I I do think that this is

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Speaker 1: the Knicks series to lose. I think the Knicks win tonight,

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01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: and I think that if the Knicks can win this

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Speaker 1: series in five and if Spurs Thunder goes seven, no

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Speaker 1: matter who wins, I'll give the Knicks a real shot

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Speaker 1: to win. I ain't there is an I could see

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Speaker 1: an element of a decade ago. Now, again, the Knicks

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01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: don't have the greatest player of all time at the

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01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: peak of his powers in Lebron, but twenty sixteen Western

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Speaker 1: Conference Finals Spur I'm sorry, Thunder Warriors being an epic

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Speaker 1: seven game series that the Warriors escape and then the

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Speaker 1: Warriors run out of gas at the end of the

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Speaker 1: actual finals, and the Calves, who were you know, probably

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Speaker 1: looked at as the third best team going into the

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Speaker 1: conference finals with the Warriors, Thunder and then Lebron and

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Speaker 1: the Calves that I wonder if the Knicks could potentially

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Speaker 1: recreate something. And I also if people are upset, like

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01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't think the Calves can win this series, we'll see.

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01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: But I think that the Knicks are The Knicks have

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01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 1: been unbelievable this postseason. And the Calves that needed seven

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01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: games to beat the Raptors and beat a Piston scene,

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01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: they was just broken. So the you know, apologies for

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01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: not so much there. We spent an hour and ten

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Speaker 1: minutes on last night's epic game and ten minutes on

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Speaker 1: Steven A versus Jalen Brown. So such as life. The

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Speaker 1: plan is to be back Thursday, maybe live, maybe not.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how it depends on the connection from the

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Speaker 1: hotel room, but we will put something up on Thursday again.

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Speaker 1: The way to make sure to know when we're live

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Speaker 1: to Blue Duck, thank you to Volume, great job Demansey.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to the Spurs and the Thunder for an

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Speaker 1: unbelievable game one last night. Talk to you guys in

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Speaker 1: about an hour on Cowherd What's Right