1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Cannabis Talk one oh one. My 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: name is Blue, alongside of mayor of the world famous 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: Pot Brothers at Law, Mark and Craig Washerman, and you 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: are now tuned into the greatest cannabis show in the country, 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: the world, or at least in my opinion, maybe Mark, 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: how you doing today, good man. 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Now Joe Grande fifty two 35 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: is where you'll find Joe Grande. And I'm at Wass 36 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: Law and Big Brothers at wass Law Dog. Yes, and 37 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: we have an amazing show for you guys today. And 38 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: we have a gentleman on the show by the name 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: of Robert pros Proscon Procell Proceell Proceel. Robert Proceell has 40 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: uh is a resident of tex This so I mean, 41 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: anybody that knows the laws in Texas and cannabis surrounding it. Um. 42 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: For years, it's always been the Yeah, it's always been 43 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: the place not to get caught. Right if you know 44 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: anything about cannabis, and my understanding is that you had 45 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: to run in with the law, go ahead and share 46 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: that with us. Correct. Um. Back in February, I was 47 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: pulled over on my way home UM by eight Rockwall 48 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: sheriffs for supposedly not using a turn signal to change lanes, 49 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: which I did do. UM. When the officer approached my vehicle, 50 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: his sole concern was basically searching the vehicle. The traffic 51 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: stop was completely secondary. As soon as he approached the door, 52 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: he was trying to come up with reasons on why 53 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: I was acting suspicious and why should he should be 54 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: able to search the vehicle. Okay, so he just he 55 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: walked up on you and just basically started following you 56 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: somehow or another in your opinion, and and then ask 57 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: you to search the vehicle or just automatically start searching 58 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: the vehicle. When they asked for my consent, which I denied, 59 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: and then after they I denied it, they said they 60 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: had right to search with the canine, And so they 61 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: did a open air search with the canine and when 62 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: the canine reached the back of the vehicle, he sat 63 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: down UM, and they used that as an indication that 64 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: there was illegal substances in the vehicle. Now, the odor 65 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: that he may have smelled could have come from anywhere, 66 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: could have come from the trees. That could have been 67 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: people walking down the other side of the tree smoking 68 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: a joint and he picked it up with his nose, 69 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: So there's no guarantee that it came from the vehicle. 70 00:03:54,720 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: Did you once they did stop? Once they did UM 71 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: the canine search that said that gave them probable cause 72 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: to continue searching the vehicle. UM, and the officer also 73 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: gave me a verbal threat of the attack by dog. 74 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: I failed to comply or failed to not comply with 75 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: their demands. So they searched the vehicle. UM. They found 76 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: a few coolers that I had product in that was 77 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: air tightly sealed, and then everything inside of it was 78 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: sealed UM and multiple layers of vacuum sealed bags. There 79 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: was no smell under ice. So when you got so, 80 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: so they arrest you. Right, this ends with you getting arrested, Kat. 81 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: When you went to court, was your attorney. Was your 82 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: attorney able to file any kind of motions attacking the 83 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: search or trying to attack it? Was that even a available? Um? Yeah, 84 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: we've brought up the pre trial to get the evidence 85 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: thrown out. The way that they do it in rock 86 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: Wall is that they do the pre trial basically right 87 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: before they do the trial. Right. Um, So you basically 88 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: try to get the evidence thrown out and then you 89 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: go immediately into court based upon the evidence. Evidence that's 90 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: still in question. So when you did that motion to 91 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: try to throw yeah, what you probably lost that motion 92 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: when they try to u argue to throw out the evidence. Um. Always, 93 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: it still hasn't been um fully taken care of. We 94 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: were supposed to go to court on Monday. However, due 95 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: to the fact that there are not open courts currently 96 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: going on, they postponed it. Speaking of speaking of Monday, 97 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: when I go in, I'll find out you gets rescheduled 98 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: to what's the argument that your attorney's making as to 99 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: why it should be thrown out? Ah? Well, the illegal 100 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: search and seizure. Um. Also when they violated the Constitution 101 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: and the Bill of Rights, they avoided the verbal contract. 102 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: Are the written and verbal contract that we have with 103 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: the police, the oath of office that they sign and 104 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: agreed to when they take the position as a binding 105 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: contract that says they will follow the law in order 106 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: to uphold it, they will follow the constitution in order 107 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: to be able to enforce it. So once they avoid 108 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: that contract with the people by not following the constitution, 109 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: essentially they are also avoiding their power to rule. Now, 110 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: let me ask you, did you feel that that? You know, 111 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: were you traveling from a different state or somewhere, this 112 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: is just in your backyard. They pulled you over and 113 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: decided to search your vehicle like that, and and because 114 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: of odor quote unquote, which you said, obviously you know 115 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: there was a product in the vehicle. You're not denying 116 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: that vacuum, but it was vacuum sealed and it was 117 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: under ice. I mean, it sounds like there's no way 118 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: in hell that it was. It wasn't smell smells. So 119 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: so you know, where did they where's your gut feeling 120 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: coming from? What made them even decide to search you know, 121 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: someone like yourself, Do you have priors or anything like 122 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: that that wouldn't want them to to to dive into you? Um, 123 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: I have two prior Mr meaners Um. One of them 124 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: was where we were out camping and we were on 125 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: the way back and I got pulled over, and my 126 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: passenger at the time I didn't know it was on 127 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: parole and wasn't even supposed to be out of the county, 128 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: and he told the officer that we had been smoking 129 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: and that I handed him the joint that we were smoking. Therefore, 130 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: they went after me for delivery, even though the very 131 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Uh. Then in two thousand five, I had 132 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: a conversation with the d e A on marijuana dot 133 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: Com over the legality of the traffic laws and wells 134 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: the legality of the cannabis laws or the Controlled Acts 135 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: Substance Act in general, and they agreed that both of 136 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: them are actually a violation of the Constitution WO After 137 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: this conversation, I went and bought a Hiabusa motorycycle. At 138 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: the time, it was the world's fastest production motorcycle top 139 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: speed of two hundred eight stock. A couple of months later, 140 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: I got pulled over by multiple officers for supposedly were 141 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: racing and driving over a hundred and eighty five miles 142 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: on the highway. After I handed up my license and 143 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: they ran the information. They walked back up to me, 144 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: handed it to me, and um asked me the police 145 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: slow down and then let everyone go Wow, So that 146 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: was it that you don't have like this extensive record 147 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: that would might make them decided to dive through your 148 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: car and and and just start ripping things apart, bringing 149 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: a dog. I mean, I feel like maybe did someone 150 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: tip them off, you know that's in your inner circle 151 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: that maybe you know, said hey, this is happening, because 152 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: you know it's not normal. I mean, it is normal 153 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: sometimes since to day's an age for them to just 154 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: come in and rip through your car if with the 155 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: wrong police officer, but you would think it shouldn't be 156 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: normal for them to be able to do that. So 157 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: you know, is that what you're feeling too or is 158 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: it just random? Um? Well, when actually after they interrogated me, 159 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,599 Speaker 1: they came to my house and then threatened my girlfriends 160 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: um if she if they didn't let her let them 161 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: into do the search, then they were going to charge 162 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: her with some charges as well as possibly take her 163 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: daughter away. So when they got to the door, the 164 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: state trooper told her that they had been watching me 165 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: for quite a while and this actually makes sense because 166 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: for the last eight months to a year prior to this, 167 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: every time I came home, there were these two or 168 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: three sheriffs waiting by the exit for me, and one 169 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: of them would usually follow me into the neighborhood. How 170 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: much how much? How much cannabis was there in your car? Um? Well, 171 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: what was officially booked on their log was around four 172 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: pounds of flour, weighs and everything. How much was there really? 173 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: Because we know they we they weighed the jars and 174 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: they weigh everything, right, so what was the what was 175 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: what was the real count that you think? What do 176 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: you think it was? Um? I would say it's actually 177 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: probably pretty close to that because they I don't know 178 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: that they actually weighed everything. With the packaging. They just 179 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: took what it stated on the package because it is 180 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: from the dispensary, so it is labeled what it is? 181 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: What which dispensaries is it from? It? They have dispensaries 182 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: in Texas, No, they were in Denver. Oh gost you 183 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: so are they getting with transporting? I mean, is that 184 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: what they're trying to at. They originally hit me with 185 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: this delivery and then delivery of the THHT and then 186 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: possession of the flower they got you importing in from 187 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: the from out of state. What are they catching you 188 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: for importing it into the state. Uh No, because I 189 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: was when they pulled me over and they asked me 190 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: where I was coming from. You didn't say Denver, my 191 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: friend and Garland, so I was coming from Garland. But 192 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: the answer is, I'm not discussing my day. That's the 193 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: answer that you're supposed to give the cops when they 194 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: ask you anything. We just I was just, you know, 195 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: I was a little late for the show because I 196 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: was talking to somebody who got pulled over and told 197 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: the cop where he was coming from. And the cops said, oh, yeah, 198 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: well they do drugs in that area all the time, 199 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: and then it just leads to something else, you know, 200 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, take us out. So we'll takee 201 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: take a cell with I'm sorry. You know. We'll get 202 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: to that right right after this break, Robert. When we 203 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: come back, we'll discuss some of these the details of 204 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: of the of the of the pullover and the and 205 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: the arrest. We'll be right back after this break. Welcome 206 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: back to Cannabis Talk one on one. We are here 207 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 1: with Robert Proscale, pro scale, procell Robert, and Robert was 208 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: arrested right in Texas for a four pounds of cannabis. 209 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: And at this point, you know, if you've been following 210 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: the show, you understand that he a dog came and 211 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: and searched the vehicle, allowed them to. He did not 212 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: allow them to search his vehicle, but they did anyways 213 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: based on smell. If I'm not mistaken, Robert, correct and now, 214 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: and now what we have. Also, when I requested a warrant, 215 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: they denied that the warrant. You told him to get 216 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: a search warrant. Where the warrant was for the search, 217 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: and then they said that they did not need one 218 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: right because of probable cause because it smells of the 219 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: smell and and all that garbage that they're lying about, 220 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: it's they're lying about the smell. They do this all 221 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: the time, and it's unfortunate that, you know, we we've 222 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: actually heard of judges and you know, across the across 223 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: the nation in different areas saying I'm not going for 224 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: that anymore. That's all you cops say. Every time I 225 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: smelled it, it smells it so I could search. And 226 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: this is some point you got you got your stuff 227 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: all wrapped up vacuum sealed and put in it does 228 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: it doesn't smell and but this is the easy way, 229 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: especially in a place like Texas, for them to uh, 230 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: for them to nab you. Now, are you familiar with, uh, 231 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: what me and my brother teach on how to deal 232 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: with law enforcement when getting pulled over? I'm not very 233 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: familiar with it now. So this is it's kind of 234 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: a good little case study that we can because me 235 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: and my brother pop brothers at law. We teach people 236 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: how to engage with law enforcement when you get pulled over, 237 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: so that you are preserving all of your rights, remedies 238 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: and defenses when you have to go to court and 239 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: to potentially help you get out of a spot where 240 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: something like this maybe could have been avoided. Sometimes it can't, 241 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: you know. But right away, when when we go through, 242 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: when that cop asks you where you're coming from, where 243 00:14:55,480 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: you're going those initial questions, because whatever you're a or is, 244 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: they're going to use that against you in some fashion, 245 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: why don't we just go over the script for him 246 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: and then you and I can uh. So this is 247 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: how it goes. What do you say when the cops 248 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: first pull you over? Why did you pull me over? Now? 249 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: When they pulled you over, did they tell you first 250 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: why they pulled you over? Yeah. As he approached my window, 251 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: he uh stated that he was pulling me over for 252 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: not using it in turn signal to change lanes. Was 253 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:34,479 Speaker 1: that a true statement? No, so that was also falsified 254 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: the document in two locations. Yeah, that's that's what that's 255 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: what they do. So, so he tells you why you're 256 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: pulled over, and then he asked you where you coming from? Uh? 257 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: He asked me where I'm coming from? And immediately starts 258 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: trying to come up with reasons to search. Oh, you 259 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: look a little uncomfortable or um, you look a little nervous. 260 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: And that's when you told him where you were coming from. 261 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: Uh okay. So, so our advice is you, first of all, 262 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: it's none of their business. They're cops. They're out there 263 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: patrolling that. It's none of their business where you're going, 264 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: where you're coming from. So blue, what are you supposed 265 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: to say to that and to any question that the 266 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: cops might ask you? How many drinks have you had? Oh, 267 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: you look tired, you look nervous. Why I'm not discussing 268 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: my day? And then when they keep pressing you for 269 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: information you ask them that might being detained or am 270 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: I free to go? And then at that point they're 271 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: going to either detain you or a lot of times 272 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: what happens we're learning from people who utilize this across 273 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: the nation. The cops realize dealing with somebody who knows 274 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: their rights. I don't see anything really going on here. 275 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna let them go on their way so I 276 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: can get the next ten people who don't who are 277 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: going to talk say things, and and let me find 278 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: a reason to be able to search. Now, in your case, 279 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: it sounds like, you know, you didn't say anything pretty much, 280 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: anything incriminating you. You did not consent to the search, 281 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: which is good, and so now it's up. And we 282 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: tell the people all the time comply and complain later. 283 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: Like when those cops asked you to get out of 284 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: the car, I'm assuming you got out correct correct, so 285 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: and that's you comply and so you're doing. You did 286 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: what we say to do. You complied with all the 287 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: bullshit everything they were doing. Sounds like you pretty much 288 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: kept your mouth shut, didn't say anything incriminating, didn't consent, 289 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: and that is what's allowing your attorney now to fight 290 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: for you and bring up, you know, whatever defenses and 291 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: whatever motions he can muster up showing that the cops 292 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: did something illegal and violated your constitutional and civil rights 293 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: the way they treated you during during this whole process. 294 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: So um, it's what we call the script and what 295 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: we teach people to do when they're dealing with cops 296 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: in these in these types of circumstances because they're out 297 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: there not as you found out, they're not patrolling for safety. 298 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: They weren't pulling you over and telling you to use 299 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: your blinker next time you're gonna kill somebody because they 300 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: don't know you're changing lanes. No, they just wanted to 301 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: get right into your car. And that's what that's what 302 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: they do. They find the reason to pull you over 303 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: or make one up, and then they find the reason 304 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: to get into your car or make one up, and 305 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: then you say, I invoked the fifth and then no 306 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: matter what they say or ask you, you just shut 307 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: the funk up. And you know it's funny because you 308 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: you're in Well, if you want to discuss, go ahead, Miranda. Yeah, 309 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: so let's that's actually a good point. So so let's 310 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: talk about that. The Miranda, the Miranda rights did they 311 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: read those to you only after I was put in 312 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: the car and books and if you're actually go back 313 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: to the actual decision on the Miranda rights the Miranda case, 314 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: it states that they have to read you those rights 315 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: before any questioning. Well before, that's not true. No, that's 316 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: that's not true. That's not correct. They have to that's 317 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: an investigatory stop. When they walk up to your window 318 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: at a traffic stop. Once you're in custodial interrogation, when 319 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: they have you in custody, then you have to then 320 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: they have to read your Miranda rights if they want 321 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: to question you. But walking up right at the traffic stop, 322 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: that's that's not Miranda, he's said. But once he was 323 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: in the when you're in custody, when you're in custody 324 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: in the police car, you don't even have to be 325 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: in the police car once you're at the beginning of 326 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: the traffic stoff. Yeah. No, they don't have to read 327 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: you your rights at the beginning of a traffic stop. 328 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,239 Speaker 1: That's not correct. The rights have to be read when 329 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 1: you're in what's called custodial interrogator. Yeah, and you're allowed 330 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: to a I'm not discussing my day see. And here's 331 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: the thing about miranda rights. What they're telling you is 332 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: you have the right to remain silent and not say anything. 333 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: You already have that right when you wake up in 334 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 1: the morning. You don't need a cop to tell that 335 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: to you. Like a kindergartener. You have that right to 336 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: not say anything. And that's why it's important you utilize 337 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: it right from the beginning. When they start asking you 338 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: those investigatory questions that they're allowed to ask, they can 339 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: ask you whatever you want. You have the absolute right 340 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: not to say anything. But once they have detained you 341 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: and you're in custody, then if they want to ask 342 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: you questions, they have to mirandize you. If they don't, 343 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: then those statements can get thrown out. Statements that you 344 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: make before, like when you said where you were coming from. 345 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: You know that statement is not going to get thrown 346 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: out because he didn't read you R Miranda before before 347 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: asking that. But it doesn't sound like you said anything 348 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: incriminating anyway, you know, do you feel that? You know 349 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: if you had a magic wand right, you know, are 350 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: you are they trying to hit you with time right now? 351 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: And what kind of time are you facing? I know 352 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: Texas has severe laws out there, and and it's it's 353 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: what kind of law, what kind of time are you 354 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: actually facing on a charge like this? Well, the maximum 355 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: no I'm facing is life in prison Jesus. They're currently 356 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: trying to push for fifteen years, which is completely unacceptably 357 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: since there was no public danger, no self incriminating evidence 358 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: can be used against me. According to the Fifth Amendment. 359 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: The fifth Amendment is actually your right to liberty, and 360 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: you can use a scientific law experiment to prove that. 361 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: When when they came in your home, okay without a 362 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: warrant because they used fear tactics, did your wife? Um, 363 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: did they find anything else? They did? They? Um? I 364 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what all it was because I haven't 365 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: received a copy of that inventory. Um, but they were 366 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: after they came to my house. And then that was 367 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: the second set of charges that I got hit with. 368 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: Got released on the first two charges, the delivery and 369 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: the possession of the flower, and then they put two 370 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,239 Speaker 1: more warrants out for me for what was at the house, 371 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: which was another possession of four four ounces did you 372 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 1: say four ounces? Yeah? In Texas, Mr, meaners are up 373 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: to four ounces four ounces to five pounds as your 374 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: first felony. So the poolover was a felony because you 375 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: had the pounds, Is that right? Yes? And then the 376 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: second one was the misdemeanor, Uh with the four ounces. No, 377 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: they're both felonies. Is what I had at my house 378 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: was over four hours? But I never received an inventory 379 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: of what they got. They just took it. They just 380 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: took it all and didn't inventory. But and so if 381 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: they didn't inventory, and how the hell are they saying 382 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: how much it was and why is it a felony? 383 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. I've asked my attorney to obtain that 384 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: information and he's working on it. I've also asked what 385 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: the effect of the causes that they're claiming, because you 386 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: have cause and effect. The cause is the possession or delivery, 387 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: But what is the effect that you're claiming? Sure, now 388 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: now you know, is there that would be part of 389 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: the nature of the accusation or is there another arrest 390 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: as well? After you know the house? Did they come 391 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: arrest you again? Well, they originally arrested me and charged 392 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: me with what I had in the vehicle while I 393 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: was still in jail. They aimed at my house and 394 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: after I bonded out. Two weeks later, they put out 395 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: two more warrant for what I had at the house, 396 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: so I had to turn myself in and bond out again. 397 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: So I have a hundred and fifty thousand dollars in bonds. Wow, 398 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: that is just amazing. Well, well, we're here with Robert 399 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: Procell and Robert. When we come back, we're gonna do 400 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: the high five with you, and we're gonna ask you 401 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: a few questions more just on this case, because it's depressing. 402 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people don't understand that. You know, 403 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: the of the country right now is completely either medical 404 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: or recreational use, and here Texas is trying to throw 405 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: you in jail for life for fifteen years. We'll be 406 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: right back. It's gonna be stock one on one. Welcome 407 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: back to Cannabistock one on one, Mark and Craig Pop Brothers, 408 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: A Law Blue and Joe Grande here at Cannabis Talk 409 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: one on one on I Heart Radio, Apple Podcast or 410 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast. And we want to thank Pitt, Peanut, 411 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: Jen and Anthony for taking care of all of our 412 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 1: technical needs, making sure we sound and look pretty up here. Yes, well, 413 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: at least I do. Hey, we got our guests here. 414 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna go through the Cannabis Talk one on one 415 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: High five. All right, what how old were you who 416 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: the first time you smoked? And who did you get 417 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: it from? I was in the seventh crane. I got 418 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: it from my friend who's took it from his parents, 419 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: and I was like, do you know anybody that wants this? 420 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: And the first time I tried it, I didn't really 421 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: get anything out of it. And then a couple of 422 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: months later I tried it again and found out what 423 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: a great planet is fantastic. Question number two of the 424 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: High five what is your favorite way to use cannabis? Well, 425 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: I use it religiously medically as the main purpose. Um, 426 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: I smoke it uh inhale concentrates flower as well as 427 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: I enjoy edibles. Alright. Question number three of the Cannabis 428 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: Talk one on one High five what is the craziest place? 429 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: Where is the craziest place you ever used or smoked cannabis? 430 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: In two thousand and five, I was at a rally 431 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: in March at Frank Crowley Federal Courthouse in downtown Dallas, 432 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: and I was smoking on the property of the courthouse. 433 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: That's a good one. Question number four of the High 434 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: five with Robert here, what is your goat? What is 435 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: your go to munchy when you get high? I don't 436 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: have any really one thing that I go to. UM. 437 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: I enjoy cooking, so it's kind of whatever I can 438 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: create at the time. Alright, and we are here again 439 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: Canvas Talk one on one High five with Robert Purcell. 440 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: Do we get that right? Robert the man who is 441 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: looking at life in Texas for freaking a few pounds 442 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: of cannabis. Question number five, If you could smoke cannabis 443 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: with anyone dead or alive, who would it be. Well, 444 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: there's three people I'd really like to smoke with. One 445 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: of them is Welly Nelson, another one is actually al 446 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: Capone sit down and pick his brain and smoke with him. 447 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: And then the other one would be snoop, shout out man. 448 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. I love that, you know, Robert. I I 449 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: want to thank you for sharing your your story with 450 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: us because there's so many people out there, um, you know, 451 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: especially youngsters. You know that that might not understand what 452 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: they're getting themselves into out in Texas or even throughout 453 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: the United States. But you know, while going through this process. 454 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: You said something to to me that was kind of dear, 455 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: and my heart is you know that you use it 456 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: every day for medical medicinal use, and I think you 457 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: should live to that with with everything that you're going through, 458 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: you have, um, you know, medical issues that you probably 459 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, need to medicate with and that's your your 460 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: your go to right now, man, and stick to that. 461 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,239 Speaker 1: And uh, you know you probably did get um, you know, 462 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: the illegal searches and the disrespect from the cops and 463 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: you're looking nervous, and of course you look nervous. You've 464 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: got to a dog in your face, you know. So 465 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: you know, I want to, you know, give you the 466 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: opportunity to kind of share your your story a little 467 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: bit further just before we get out of here. And 468 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: I know you're in a rush as well, so can 469 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: you you know, kind of put a bow on it 470 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: for for the listeners out there of what you feel 471 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: like you're going through and what what it's going to 472 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: take to get get through this. Well, it's gonna take 473 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: a lot of support from the people. People actually coming 474 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: out to the courthouse and listening to the case as 475 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: it's being tried. That will put additional pressure on the 476 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: judge and the prosecution to follow the constitutions instead of 477 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: trying to just do whatever they want. Um. Read is 478 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: probably the best thing. I can say. Learn your laws, Uh, 479 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 1: read the constitution, talk to people about their interpretations of it, 480 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: and then make the decisions that are best for you. Well, 481 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: we hope you keep us in touch, keep in touch 482 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: with us, and we want to follow this case and 483 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: and uh see where it goes. If you you know, 484 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: you can give us a give us a buzz and 485 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: keep us posted and we'll have you back on to 486 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: give us updates if you're up to it. Yeah, I 487 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: definitely look forward to being back on and I'll have 488 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: additional information to discuss. Monday, I go to the courthouse 489 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: and get the trial reset. Most likely we won't go 490 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: to trial the next time it's set because we still 491 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: be under the restrictions and it won't be in an 492 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: open court. Yeah, you'll be waiting. And you can also 493 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: extend the invitation to your attorney. Uh, you know, happy 494 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: to have them sitting next to you at some point 495 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: if he wants to come on and talk about the 496 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: case as well, Probably when it's closer to over, I 497 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: would imagine. Yeah, and one last thing is where can 498 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: people reach you if they do want to support you 499 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: out there in Texas and come into the courts and 500 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: how can they how how can they interact with you 501 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: on that? Um? Right now, I've got a petition and um, 502 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: actually my Facebook page is Robert pro Style Jr. And 503 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: you can look me up on there and send me 504 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: an invite. I've got lots of updates on my Facebook 505 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: page itself, UM, to the event that was coming out Monday, 506 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: as well as to the petition. And then on the 507 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: bottom of the petition there's a go fund me account 508 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: And if anybody would like to submit some financial help 509 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: to help pay for the attorney and other things needed 510 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: to prepare for trial, do they take cash? Well, there 511 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: it is guys, it's Cannabis Talk one on one. We 512 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: want thank you for being on the show. And uh, 513 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: if you're out there, man, let this be a lesson, 514 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: be very conscious of what you're going on. Remember your rights. 515 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: Always follow the script. Guys, it's Cannabis Talk one oh one. 516 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: Remember this. If no one else loves you way do 517 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one oh one 518 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio app Apple podcast or wherever 519 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts,