1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BED three 2 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Volume podcast Network. 3 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: I am Chad Millman of the Action Network. I'm live 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: from my Tommy John remote studio here in my hotel room, 5 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: and I'm joined as always by my co host, my companion, 6 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: my compadre might BFF professional better, Simon Hunter Ero. 7 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: Simon, Chad, you picked a great time head out west. 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: It is cold on the East coast. 9 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: You know what, Simon. 10 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: Since I've been in La it has been gray and 11 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: sixty five degrees. 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 3: So I'm struggling. 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: It is not you know, a bowl of cherries out 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: here with my view of the ocean, just hobnobbin with 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 1: celabs and going to fancy places for dinner. 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In Iowa terms, conditioned restrictions 43 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: apply all right, as always on Thursdays during the season, 44 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: we like to hear how the wise guys are responding 45 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: to our Tuesday conversation. We are that influential. We know 46 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: the lines are moving based on what we say, and 47 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: then the pros must tell us what they think of 48 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: our opinion. Simon, let's do Shreff calls. 49 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 4: Hello, he's there. I'm talking rain. 50 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: Rain telephone range. 51 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 4: Somebody said maybe. 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: One should do man. 53 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll start right away. The game we like. We 54 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 4: like Cleveland. They got to six and a half. 55 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: It's back down to five and a half, and a 56 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: lot of books should have known this was gonna come 57 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: back down, but no one thought of Mark Cooper was 58 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: worth a real point to the spread. So that was 59 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: a bad overreaction by the books. The professionals come in, 60 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: and I know played professionals. I still like them at 61 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: five and a half. So as long as you can 62 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: still find the six, which I would shop around for, 63 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: I think that's that's where the pros kind of have 64 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: broken on that one. So again, that's a game we're 65 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: gonna dive into pretty. 66 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 4: Heavy coming up here. 67 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: Surprisingly a game I flipped on a lot of pros, 68 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: a lot of guys. I talked to the sharp guys. 69 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: They love green Bay. They love green Bay minus two 70 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: and a half. So I know, I like, I'd like 71 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: to Houston. I like Houston a plus three. I'm probably 72 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: gonna avoid it, either take green Bay to two and 73 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: a half or just avoid it altogether. It just seems 74 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: like most of the guys I talk do like the 75 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: green Bay side. The reason seems pretty sound. I think 76 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: a lot of their thinking is the same with you. 77 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: It's like, this number should probably be three to three 78 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: and a half. You're getting two and a half because 79 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: there's so much respect and love the general public right now. 80 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: To CJ, the value definitely looks like it is on 81 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: green Bay. 82 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 5: There. 83 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: So a game I was pretty wrong about. A game 84 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: we nailed that the number had moved too much. The 85 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: Lions that was plus two and a half. Shout out 86 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: to anyone that does early entries like I do in 87 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: our contest. You were able to get the Lions two 88 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: and a half. That was nice to I did. I 89 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: just put my picks and usually right when we get 90 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: done our show on Tuesdays, I know our fans want 91 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: us to do Thursdays. So that's why I didn't even. 92 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 4: Hit chat up. 93 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 2: I was like, we can't put them these in any way. 94 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: But I knew that Detroit number was gonna move. It 95 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: was just insane that had gone up to two and 96 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: a half that came crashing back down at one and 97 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: a half. So it's nice to know we're on the 98 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: same side because I was scared. I was like, who's 99 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: moving all this Minnesota money? And I think me and 100 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: you talk about it all the time, like there's professional 101 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: groups who they'll come in small on one side, the 102 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 2: books will react thinking it's professional money taking that side, 103 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: and then when they get the number they want, that's 104 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: when they come in heavy. And that was the class 105 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: of Detroit case. So even when I open up the app, 106 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen it's like ninety percent of the 107 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: money right now is on this Detroit team. So yes, 108 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: that's that's a public and professional play. There a games, 109 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: we'll go the ones that people are split on. I 110 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: really like the Giants plus three and a half. I 111 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: talked to playing professionals who had my same view of 112 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: if this gets a two and a half, how do 113 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: you not take the Eagles, And a couple of them 114 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: are just taking them at three. They don't think it's 115 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: ever going to get to two and a half. So 116 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: if you like the Eagles, go grab the minus three. 117 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: I just don't think it's ever going to get down 118 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: at two and a half. I don't think there's enough 119 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: professional money coming in, especially the unknown with neighbors. We've 120 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: just seen that number. 121 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: Now and now Andrew Thomas, like Andrew Thomas, is massive, 122 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: literally massive, but also a massive loss for the Giants 123 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: a game. 124 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: I love Chiefs pretty split professionals. 125 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 4: I like the forty nine ers. There's pros like me 126 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 4: that love the Chiefs. 127 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: You can talk a nise them about how this Chiefs 128 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: team's got so many injuries while the forty niners are 129 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: getting healthier at this point, they have the offensive weapons. 130 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 4: YadA, yadaya. 131 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's my homes of 132 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 2: the dog, like you just, I'm not gonna budget my 133 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: stance on taking my homes the dog. It's just a 134 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: long term profitable spot to take this guy. He just 135 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: always covers in these type of scenarios. So that's been 136 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: a lot of discourse on that one. That one really split, yeah, 137 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: between the professionals. In the last one a game we 138 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: touched on a little bit again, another game I got 139 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: lucky that I locked in early on Tuesday, Jets minus 140 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: one and a half. It's now moved up to two 141 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: and a half. Not shocking at all because we talked 142 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: about it. For Russell Wilson was going to become the starter. 143 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: This was gonna keep moving against his Pittsburgh team. It's 144 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: looking more and more like that's gonna happen here. And 145 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 2: the last one is a game we talked about. We 146 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: already knew this was a professional side. But it's the Bucks, right. 147 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 2: The Bucks number got up to four and a half Sunday, 148 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: it's been bet down to three and a half. Some 149 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: books even touched three, and then it went back up 150 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: to three and a half. I think that's where it 151 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: should be, right And I was hoping to get more 152 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: info on Mike Evans. 153 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 4: Unfortunately haven't I heard much. 154 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: I know it's a soft tinger soft tissue injury that 155 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: you know he might miss the game, but the line 156 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: doesn't reflect that right now. So still very confident in 157 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: our books bet but that's that's very public. Ravens heavy 158 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: professionals are on this Buccaneers team. 159 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been checking injury reports from Mike Evans. I 160 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: haven't seen anything yet, but look, we're going to get 161 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: into all these games. 162 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 5: I think. 163 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: I think some of the games that you mentioned are 164 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: like very interesting. Obviously the Steelers Jets, Obviously, the Chiefs 165 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: and Niners. Those are marquee matchups from a betting perspective. 166 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: Short numbers going to be a lot of opinions. We 167 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: talked about the public all season long, how it had 168 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: been a dreadful year for the public this season so far, 169 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: thirty eight, forty nine and three forty three percent against 170 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: the spread this season. 171 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: Now, as we said through five weeks, that. 172 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: Was the worst start ever the past twenty years. Now 173 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: it's the four worse start through six weeks because the 174 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: public went ten to three and one last week. So 175 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: you were so pressing it last week, right, like you said, 176 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: the public is due. We did add more daily, more 177 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: chalky picks than normal to our Phase fives. 178 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: Those were the games we actually won. 179 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: So the question will be how aggressively are we leaning 180 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: into the fading the public this week. How much will 181 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: that regression that we expect factor into impacting the games 182 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: we like the first game we touched on it on Tuesday, 183 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: you didn't mention it into sharp calls, and you and 184 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: I have not discussed it at all since then. But 185 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: I did put Miami and Indy back in there because 186 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: we leaned Dolphins three and a half. 187 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: It's now three. It's come down. 188 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: I think it's come down because a lot of people, 189 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: as soon as Anthony Richardson was it was indicated that 190 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: he would likely be the starter, people started betting on 191 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. We didn't think it would be in our 192 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: top five. I just left it on the list because 193 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: there is such a pro Joe discrepancy with the money 194 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: on the Dolphins and the tickets on the Colts. Do 195 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: you have any opinion on this game that you feel 196 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: more strongly about it because Anthony Richardson is now expected 197 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: to be the starter. 198 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: No, it's just a game I'm staying away from. It's 199 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: like there's a plenty of ugly dogs this week, and 200 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: then there's some dogs that aren't that ugly. That's like, 201 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 2: I'd rather lose six figures on Detroit or the Chiefs 202 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: than fucking with this Miami team again. It's like, I 203 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: can't be bothered with putting a lot of money on 204 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: this one. And I'm hoping you weren't going to force 205 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: me into putting this in the contest, because you're right, 206 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: the pros liked this spot for Miami. 207 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: But it's kind of the same thing for last week. 208 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 2: These guys came in heavi as shit, this group on 209 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: the Tennessee Tids against the Colts because. 210 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 4: We all agree the Colts have a really bad. 211 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: Defense and they have some questionable weapons on all offense, 212 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: and you know, no Jonathan Taylor, Pittman's banged up. Like 213 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: there's a lot to be negative about this Colts team, 214 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: and I get why other professionals call on the other 215 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: side of it. 216 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 4: It's just I just can't do it. I can't. 217 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: I can't put heavy money on this Miami team right now. 218 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: All right, that's fine. 219 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: Like we've been burned, uh uh, Like I'm still a 220 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: little bit hungover from that Jets loss and like that 221 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: Giants loss. So we're gonna have plenty of bad quarterbacks 222 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: to bet on and play of ugly games to bet on. 223 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: We don't need to force one. 224 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, just get and find better numbers. 225 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 2: Right, Like it's three now most books, like you kind 226 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: of missed the three and a half right on Miami, 227 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't just take the three, I'd try to 228 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 2: get the. 229 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: Fret and a half Seattle in Atlanta. We leaned Atlanta 230 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: when it was two and a half, it's now three. 231 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't think you know, like all the matchup, all 232 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: the breakdowns, what's interesting to me? Make me one Atlanta 233 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: even more. The public loves loves loves Seattle, and even 234 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: after all that, the line has still moved from two 235 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: and a half to three. Is there anything that says 236 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: we're considering Atlanta because at this point it's such a 237 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: public fade, or do we think Seattle is healthier. They're 238 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: coming off a bye. Atlanta is getting so lucky. They 239 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: could easily be zero to six, one and five, two 240 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: and three, whatever it is. Instead they are where they 241 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: are because they've really gotten lucky, including by the way 242 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: that Panthers game, which was much much closer than the 243 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: score indicates. 244 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the game that we talked about. I 245 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: just let them never dictate my pick. 246 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: I took Atlanta in MYCE twon and a half, and 247 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 2: I said if it gets up to three and a 248 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: half on Seahawks, if I hadn't made a bet yet, 249 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: I would take that number. 250 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: Like this just screams a game where. 251 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: The final whoever's the ball lasts, is going to win 252 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: this byfield goal, right Like, I don't have confidence right 253 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 2: now in either, but I have more confidence in this 254 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: Atlanta defense in Seattle. It just Seattle's defense has just 255 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: been so bad for so many weeks in a row. 256 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: Anytime they play a good offense, they just get rolled 257 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: right now, And I mean, we both agree Atlanta is 258 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: a really good offense right now, Like it's it's it's hummy. 259 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: Even though they have injuries to the offensive line, they 260 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 2: really haven't lost the beat. So I do I like 261 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: the matchup for Atlanta. I'd still take them with minus 262 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: two and a half. But you're right, it's it's gonna 263 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: get to a point where it's like, you know, if 264 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: it's three and a half, it's it's gonna be tempting 265 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: to take Seattle. That's it's gonna be a nice value 266 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: on a back door. 267 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: I met a guy last night who's an investor, and 268 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: he like, that's what he does for a living, right, 269 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: And we were talking about betting, and he was talking 270 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: about how minuscule the margin of error is when you 271 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: are making a bet and going from two and a 272 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: half to three to three and a half, and the 273 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: value that people find at three and a half versus 274 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: the value that people find at two and a half. 275 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: It truly is when you're betting, unlike anything else in 276 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: equity markets, because. 277 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: The band of sort of. 278 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: Miscalculation is so much bigger than trying to nail a 279 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: half a point when betting on a game, like to 280 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: see someone whose livelihood is in the investment space thinking 281 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: about the narrow margins and betting, and here we are 282 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: talking about three and a half like one side, two 283 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: and a half like the other. It's an extra point, 284 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 285 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: It's just because we've seen it all though. That's why 286 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: we jogged last week. We were freaking out about that 287 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: Green Bay half a point and it's like didn't even 288 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: matter in any which way. And that's just because me 289 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 2: and you have been around long enough where it's like 290 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: sometimes just half a points are a big deal and 291 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: they do matter, and we try not to react to it. 292 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, I told you I'm a big believer in Yeska, 293 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: the best of the number is important, but it's also 294 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: like you just want to be on the right side, 295 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 2: so I try not to let it always dictate us 296 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: where It's like, if we like a side, like I 297 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: just said, there were a bunch of good numbers, mean 298 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: you could have locked it on Tuesday, But we can't 299 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: do that to the fans of the show, right. That's 300 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: why I even bother texting. People want to listen here 301 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: hear us go through our picks today and make this pick. 302 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: So how would I help anyone on the show if 303 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, well, I already got Detroit two and 304 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: a half, so no, no bet for me. I already 305 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: got the good, best number. I'm on to the next one, 306 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: so it does matter. But at the same time, it's like, 307 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: if I thought Detroit this number was gonna come down 308 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: to the two, I wouldn't give it out. But it's like, no, 309 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: I think you still have a lot of value on 310 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: Detroit at plus one and a half, so I still 311 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: have no issue taking that number. 312 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 3: As Scooch one said, the right side is the winning side. 313 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's what it comes to Bay. 314 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: As Milman once said, Green Bay feels like the side 315 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 3: here at two and a half, and Chad Millman is 316 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: proud of himself. 317 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: Literally, the sharps agree with what Milman is saying. It's 318 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: like he's a professional, you know what. He just doesn't 319 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: get appreciated the way that he should for his understanding 320 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: of the sports betting markets. 321 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: Green Bay minus two and a half. 322 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: There are a lot of books that have it at 323 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: three Houston, but we're talking about that three six five. 324 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 3: It's at two and a half. 325 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: Houston is the public dog. There's so much public love 326 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: for Houston right now. It definitely makes me like green 327 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: Bay even more. Now that we've gotten, you know, some 328 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: confirmation from my fellow sharps, I feel even better about it. 329 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: You're obviously not feeling great about it. You might even 330 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: feel like you're being bullied into it. 331 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: No, I agree with them that that's probably the right number. 332 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: I just still have major questions about this green Bay team. 333 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: They're so dependent will be on turnovers, Like that's the 334 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: only thing I can think of, is like, Okay, maybe 335 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: they'll get the young kid on the road here and 336 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: get him the turnover because you're right, like the splits 337 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: are different between him and home and him on the road. 338 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: Like you said, it's it's all about the number at 339 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: the end of the day, and it's like, okay, two 340 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: and a half, that's the good number. I trust the 341 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: guys who are saying that, I'll take it. 342 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: All right, Simon, I can't believe what I'm about to say. 343 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm in a hotel, so I can't go crazy. 344 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: Why not? You'll never be there ever again. 345 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: You never know. It is time four hour Big Ball 346 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: Better the Week. 347 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: Presented by Tommy John. If you've got the balls, Tommy 348 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: John has the support. Great games start with great underwear, 349 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: and Tommy John makes the greatest My friend sack up 350 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: because we are going with Cincinnati at Cleveland and we 351 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: are taking the Cleveland Browns at plus six. You mentioned 352 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: it in the sharp calls This line god way too aggressive. 353 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: It got up to six and a half while we 354 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: were doing the show on Tuesday as Amari Cooper was traded. 355 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: We know we don't want to bet to Sean Watson, 356 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: but this one is like a big, fat, hanging curveball 357 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: that is tempting us, and we are either going to 358 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: flail and look terrible and swing so hard we hurt 359 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: our back and fall to our knees. Or we are 360 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: hitting this one so freaking far out of the park 361 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: that we are going to look like the courageous big 362 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: balls betters that we are. 363 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish it was still six and a half, right, 364 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: that was really nice. That was a nice gift by 365 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: the sports books there moving that. 366 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 4: By a fool. 367 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: It was a minute like that. Everyone you know it 368 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: wasn't it. It's like young love. It just can't last. 369 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: I mean I saw a couple of books touch seven, 370 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: so it got up there like they were obviously panic 371 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: moving that number because so much money was flooding, but 372 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: terrible move. And we talked about like this is a 373 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 2: nice matchup defensively for Cleveland against this you know Cincinnati 374 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: offense that obviously they want to push the ball through 375 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: the air. I don't know if I'll be able to 376 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: do that against Cleveland here. And then on the flip side, 377 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 2: this should be a get right game. Finally, for Watson, 378 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: this is one of the worst defenses he's played this season. 379 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: He knows he's got to hear the noise right the 380 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: I mean, they just trade his number one receiver. This 381 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: team is basically just saying to him like we're semi 382 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: giving up on the season here. You know, I love 383 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 2: desperate teams in these type of scenarios. So we talked 384 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: about we think we're getting a free point and a 385 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: half of points just because of what happened last week, 386 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 2: because it's the pre because of the Brown. You can 387 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: probably throw another point in there, right, this probably should 388 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 2: be only three three and a half in a divisional 389 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: game like this is so yeah, a ton of free 390 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 2: points of value here. We are betting on one of 391 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: the worst teams in football and easily the worst quarterback 392 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: right now in football. Right, if you just look at 393 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 2: the numbers, it's no fun, always scary. Gotta hold your nose, 394 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: trust the number, and take the number here with Cleveland. 395 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Also, Cleveland's getting better, right, Their offensive line is 396 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: getting a little bit healthier. 397 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: Jack Conklin is back. 398 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 4: That's a goody. 399 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: That's that's a big deal. Nick Chubb is finally going 400 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: to be back. That's a big deal. There are some 401 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: pieces here that I think we'll make Deshaun Watson look 402 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: a little bit better. I don't know if he'll play better, 403 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: but maybe he's not staring at the rush right in 404 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: front of him immediately and then taking off like maybe 405 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: he will feel a little bit more confident, maybe they 406 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: will run the ball a little bit more effectively. So 407 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: there is an opportunity here to pounce on the Browns 408 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: in a in a big division rival game. 409 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 5: And so. 410 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 3: You know, like. 411 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: We have to fade the public when they are coming 412 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: in on the Bengal as such a big road favorite, 413 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: as heavily as they are, it's we gotta do it. 414 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just a reaction too, Like, Okay, I say 415 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 2: the Giants do cover that three? Is this number really 416 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: this high? 417 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 4: Still? I don't think so. 418 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of things right now where it 419 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 2: feels like it's a reaction. We're getting really good value 420 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: on this Cleveland team. And yeah, the like I said, 421 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: matchups defensively and offensively. This is as good as it 422 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 2: gets for this Cleveland team. 423 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: Our sponsor, Simon Tommy John makes the most comfortable underwear 424 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: I've ever worn. It's what makes us comfortable making a 425 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: big Balls bet of the Week on the Cleveland Browns. 426 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: The underwear has changed my life. The shirts have changed 427 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: my life. The pajama bottoms have changed my life. 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I think it's 438 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: interesting you should explain a little bit more like the 439 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: scenario that you're talking about, and you mentioned about how 440 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: professional betters manipulate the lines, because it's worth an extra 441 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: thirty second explanation because a lot of people don't understand it. 442 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: So explain that a little bit. 443 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 4: You know, we talk all the time. Two has become 444 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 4: a very key number. 445 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: And you saw a playout this week with this Vikings team, 446 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: so you know, a lot of books open them minus 447 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 2: one Sunday night, professional money comes in on the Vikings. 448 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 2: They get up to two, a little bit more money, right, 449 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: These professionals keep keep betting it. So again it's not 450 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: big money. It's like a thousand dollars, that's how much 451 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: these books will take on individual bets Sunday and Monday, 452 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 2: unless you really know them, maybe you get ten thousand, 453 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 2: but they'll come in put another couple of thousand on 454 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 2: it on Tuesday, move it a little more, and the 455 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 2: books will finally move it across that key number of 456 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: two and a half. And then basically, you know, it 457 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: depends on what they runners you have, but simultaneously you'll 458 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 2: hit multiple books at the same time get to two 459 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: and a half before all the books move it. Because basically, 460 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 2: I mean the truth is a lot of these books 461 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: they're moving their number off air like professional betters aren't hitting. 462 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not trying to call it these different books, 463 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: but there's some books that like they ban you instantly, 464 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: I mean you are instantly banned, and they don't take 465 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: big bets, especially from runners, professional betters, all that noise. 466 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 4: They'll just move their number based off what other. 467 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: Books are moving their numbers, right, they're not even moving 468 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 2: off other people's bets. So yeah, the books that can't 469 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 2: get the professional money, they know right away that they 470 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: kind of fell into a little bit of a trap 471 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: and that they might have moved the number too much. 472 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: And you know, we talked about right, losing the number 473 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: one dandom football or number two. I guess behind TJ. 474 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 4: Watt A. 475 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 2: Hutchinson should move the number. But did they move it 476 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: too much? I think that's what the book did, right 477 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: They they thought that, you know, they're getting ahead of it. 478 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: The professionals were agreeing with them, they were getting a 479 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: good movement here, and it kind of came back on 480 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: them where It's like, I think a lot of people 481 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: like us are just really skeptical of this Vikings team still. 482 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: And on the flip side, it's how I mean, I've 483 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 2: never been more confident in this Lion's offense. I mean 484 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 2: they've just put up back to back forty point games, 485 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 2: like it's all clicking right now. And you know, even 486 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: if their defense suffers here, I don't know how that 487 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 2: affects their offense. Like they just they are full blown 488 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: running down your throat and if that doesn't work, they're 489 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to move with through there. 490 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 4: I mean, that's just how dominant this team is right now. 491 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 4: So I haven't waivered. 492 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: I still like them despite them being probably the most 493 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: public dog right I think they're getting all the money, 494 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: all the bets right now in Detroit and me and 495 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: you talked about it. I just don't think the books 496 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: have caught up to them. And you know, my mind, 497 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: this is just a little bit too much respect to 498 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 2: a Vikings team that not that their wins have been fluky, 499 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: but a lot of things early in the season went 500 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: their way with a lot of their games between the 501 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: turnovers and how well Brian Flores has had this defensive 502 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 2: play and then you know Sam Darnold, like that was 503 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: his first bad game of the year, was that game 504 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: in England, and you know, maybe he got it right 505 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: and during this bye week, but okay, you just face 506 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: the Jets defense. I mean, you think are pretty good, 507 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: but I think overall the Lions defense has probably been 508 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: better this year. I don't think it's gonna get any 509 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: easier for him trying to pass the ball downfield against 510 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: the Detroit defense. 511 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: So one thing I want to clear up for people 512 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: is professional better is getting one thousand dollars down early 513 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: in the week. If a professional better gets a thousand 514 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: dollars down on a game early in the week, sometimes 515 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: that is the equivalent of that same better getting ten, twenty, 516 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: thirty thousand or more later in the week. 517 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 3: Because bookmakers. 518 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: You say they're sort of moving on air, That basically 519 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: means bookmakers are just moving the number without any BET's 520 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: coming in. They're responding to what they're seeing from other 521 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: operators and assuming those operators who might be more inclined 522 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: to take professional Better's money are getting money, and so 523 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: everyone's moving it why lines all moved the same time. 524 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: But professional book book makers also they book on faces, 525 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: and so if Simon walks in or someone else walks 526 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: in that they know as a professional Better, even if 527 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: they're taking up what's called a nickel bet five hundred 528 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: dollars or a dime one thousand dollars, they're going to 529 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: move that number based on who the better is, not 530 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: on the money taken. And so that's why the money 531 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: amount doesn't really matter at that point in the season, 532 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: at that point of the week, because it's about the 533 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: better who's making the bet, and that's how the line 534 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: can get manipulated or how the line can move the 535 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: other way. 536 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: As for the Lions. 537 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: Co signed to everything, we have felt this for a 538 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Their offensive line is so dominant and 539 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: there is definitely a change in the play calling to 540 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: be more physical, to be more run focused, to have 541 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: Jared Goff play more within the system when he's amazing, 542 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: And you're right, this doesn't impact the defense. The worst 543 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: unit on the field will be the Vikings offense. And 544 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: so how much will a diminished Vikings defense Lions defense 545 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: have to overperform against a Vikings offense that is really 546 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: middle of the road, right, And so now you've got 547 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: a number one Vikings defense going against a dominant Lions offense. 548 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: But the offensive line is so good, will it be 549 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: able to control the Vikings pass rush which is their 550 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: strength because Brian Flores is so good at devising different 551 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: blitz schemes. 552 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 3: So uh yeah, we're. 553 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: They are a huge public dog. I hate it, but 554 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell is great against the spread. Dan Campbell is 555 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: great as an underdog and no teams. I got this 556 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: from Ray Bron listening to the six pack five and 557 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: no teams at home forty four percent against the spread 558 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: the past two decades. And then this was great from 559 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: raybon You know I love ref stats. Clay Martin is 560 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: the ref road underdogs with Clay Martin seventy against the spread. 561 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: So we're going with the Lions. They'll be in the 562 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: contest yeah. 563 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: And one thing I'll say really quick though, when you 564 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 2: talked about better's getting their bets down, I talked. 565 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 4: About that COVID. 566 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 2: I mean, as horrible as it was, obviously for many 567 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: reasons for betters, it's been great because you can wear 568 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: masks now in these casinos and that's been a game 569 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: changer for a lot of people. And I mean me 570 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 2: and Chad talked about it ages ago, Like when I 571 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: go to the books, I go to work when everyone 572 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: goes to sleep, like when the main pit bosses leave, 573 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 2: that's my time to shine, right when the secondary unit's 574 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: in there at night. And Chad knows. I mean, I 575 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 2: talk about the tricks of the trade. You act drunk 576 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: with a mask on, you go in there, you act sloppy, 577 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: like you know what you're doing. You're just throwing money 578 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: around on stupid bets. I've never in my entire life 579 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: had anyone say no on a bet after midnight when 580 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: I have a mask on, acting like I'm a little intoxicated. 581 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: But if you go in midday when the books are empty, 582 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: no mask on, and you're asking to put ten k 583 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: down on, you know the browns, Someone's gonna come down 584 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 2: and talk to you. But if you do that at 585 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: three in the morning, no one's come down to talk 586 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: to you. They're gonna be like, what an idiot? Yeah, 587 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 2: well happy they take this guy's money on this Browns bet. 588 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 2: So definitely, if you're someone that's ever been banned or whatever, 589 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: they can't stop you from going in there. And once 590 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: they take your bet, they've taken it. They're going to 591 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: pay you out no matter what. And they'll just give 592 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: you the same speech they give me every time, which is, oh, 593 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: did you know you were a banned here? You're not 594 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: supposed to betting here, and you just oh, I didn't realize. 595 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 2: And that's how it is. So they cannot let you in. 596 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: It's a private business. Once you're in, you make the bets, 597 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: they've taken the action, they have to pay you out. 598 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: So that's just something to keep in mind. 599 00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 4: People. 600 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 2: You don't even if if you are banned from a book, 601 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: that can't stop you from going until they catch you. 602 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: At ten am, the ticket taker turns around and gives 603 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 3: it a quick approval approval please. 604 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 605 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: One more stat short home favorites in the division of 606 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: three points or less forty five percent against the spread 607 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: the past twenty years, forty two percent since twenty twenty. 608 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: I put Carolina Washington in here. Washington a point favorite. 609 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 3: Again. 610 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: Panthers are the play every metric, every trend. It also 611 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: has bet the Panthers. We will not be putting this contest. 612 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: I just want that on the record. 613 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: Carry on, Yeah, carry on the Jenn Daniels commandors. 614 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 4: They have some horrid regression coming. I think they're nine 615 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 4: for nine on fourth downs this year. 616 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: It's just it's a Simon, We're not even We've said 617 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: all we have to say about the Panthers. We have, 618 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: We've given the people our opinion. We're not going to 619 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: torture anybody. We've already given the Browns. Let's move on 620 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: Las Vegas at the Los Angeles Raiders. This number has 621 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: moved a full point since you, Pegg did as Simon 622 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: says on Sunday, and like to me, this was about 623 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: getting the best of the number when you said it, 624 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: and you were right. All the money and all the 625 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: tickets on the Rams. I do want to say, like, 626 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: I don't feel strong that we're going to put in 627 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: the contest. I do lean Raiders at six and a half. 628 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: I do think the score last week was so lopsided 629 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: for so many regressible reasons on the part of the 630 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: Steelers that I do think you're getting a little bit 631 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: more value on the Raiders then probably is warranted giving 632 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: the Rams situation, I. 633 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 4: Agree with you, we'll take them. 634 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: But my fears of all the teams right now that 635 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 2: I've watched on film, there are few teams that look 636 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: like they quit in certain games. The Raiders have like 637 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 2: two games this year they look like they've quit on 638 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: the games. And there's not like games are getting blown out. 639 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: It's like pretty close games and they just kind of 640 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: give up in the second half. So I'm with agreements 641 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 2: like this number is a good number. You should take 642 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: this on the Raiders here, But man, it's just so 643 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: bad and so negative this Raiders team. I feel more 644 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: comfortable if I see them actually got the gate and 645 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: win one of these games and get a cover here. 646 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: It's just hard to back them right now. It just 647 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: feels like everything's so negative surrounding this team. 648 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: Game of the week, Game of the season, Super Bowl 649 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: rematch Kansas City at San Francisco. San Francisco is a 650 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: one point favorite, your assigmon says on Tuesday when this 651 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: was at one and a half take the Chiefs, And honestly, 652 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: this line had not moved until I think late Wednesday 653 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: night early this morning, going back down from one and 654 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: a half to one. And the Chiefs are a massive 655 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: public dog. So the fact the line had barely moved 656 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: closer to pick says what I think. What you indicated 657 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: at the top of the show with sharp calls is 658 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: that the books might be getting a lot of professional 659 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: money on San Francisco. So I know we want to 660 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: be on the Chiefs, and I feel the same am 661 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: exact way I did before the Super Bowl last year. 662 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 3: The Niners roster is better, The Niners. 663 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: Have a better team. The Chiefs could easily be two 664 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: and three. Listening to Stockey on the Action Network podcast, 665 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,239 Speaker 1: he made great points. Isaiah Likely's toe could have been 666 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: a loss when his toe was out of bounds on 667 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: that game tying catch for the Ravens. In Week one, 668 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: there was a PI call on a desperate heave by 669 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes in a game that the Chiefs ultimately beat 670 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: the Bengals, when the Bengals never should have let the 671 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: Chiefs in that game. They had a missed PI call 672 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: when they were playing the Falcons that cost the Falcons 673 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 1: the game. Like they have a lot of issues, right, 674 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: no Pacheco, no rashe Rice. They're not playing great, They're 675 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: not moving the ball down the field. It's like, this 676 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: is the heart versus argument. Your brain says you got 677 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: to take the Niners. Your heart is saying, who the 678 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: fuck bets against Patrick Mahomes isn't underdoge? 679 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 680 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: I think we all agree though that this fort Niners 681 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: team is better and they had better weapons and everything 682 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: like that. But me and you earn a total agreement 683 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: that went it's in the fourth quarter. That's where the 684 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: Chiefs get you. And if they can just keep this close, 685 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: which I think they'll be able to because we've seen 686 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: it this year. The forty nine Ers just haven't been 687 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: putting teams away and that's kind of been there kryptonite 688 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 2: this year. So we totally understand all the injuries that 689 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 2: the Chiefs teams had, and we all knew that this 690 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 2: would probably be a more public dog, right just because 691 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: they are five and zero and Mahomes, you know, does 692 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: usually cover these games. And I talked me and you 693 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: joked about it. It's like, how do you not put 694 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: them in Detroit? And a teaser like again, both them 695 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 2: across seven and a half when they are both plus 696 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: one and a half, Like that's that's too good to 697 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: be true. So all of this makes sense, but at 698 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's just you said it. 699 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: It's like, we can't not take my home here. It's 700 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: just if he has the ball, he's down by three 701 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, I think it we're at least 702 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 2: going to overtime, if not winning this game out right 703 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 2: at the end. And you cannot say the same with 704 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 2: Purdy and this forty nine ers offense. I just you know, 705 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: as well as he's played, it just feels like it's 706 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: way too much on his shoulders right now and he's 707 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 2: eventually to get caught. We need to play against a 708 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 2: really good defense, and that's what we have here, right, 709 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 2: a really good defense. 710 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 4: So yeah, the Chiefs running three tight end sets and 711 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 4: trying to make it. 712 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 2: Work right now because they don't have any receivers, it's 713 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 2: a little daunting to bet on it. But having Mahomes 714 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: out plus number it kind of eases the pain a 715 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 2: little bit. So not going to overreact to it too much. 716 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: Just take the plus one and a half. 717 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 3: I mean, do we really think this ends up in 718 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 3: our contest. I'm not as. 719 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 4: Convinced as he right now about the Chiefs. 720 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to end at some point. Patrick Mahomes 721 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: being able to do this and this team this year 722 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: specifically not having the talent, not having the depth, being 723 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: able to stay in these games and getting the lucky 724 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: breaks they're getting, Like, Patrick Mahomes, getting you in the 725 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: position to win the game or tie the game is 726 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: one thing. Getting all the lucky breaks that they have 727 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: been getting is entirely different. Like, how can it keep happening? 728 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 2: Cause if you're really good, you put in the work, 729 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 2: you put yourself in the right scenarios, you make your 730 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 2: own luck. 731 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 4: Chat have you not learned that in life? 732 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 3: So you could say that, but he's like, becomes the teacher. 733 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 4: You've learned nothing. You learn nothing from last year's playoffs. 734 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: They literally had the hardest road in NFL history to 735 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 2: make it to the Super Bowl last year, and they 736 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,479 Speaker 2: fucking did it somehow, and they took down an even 737 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: better forty nine ers. 738 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 4: Team than what we have here right now. 739 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 2: So I'm with you, like there's a reason you should 740 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 2: be nervous about this, But at the same time, it's 741 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 2: like you just have to trust the number and trust 742 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 2: Mahomes like he's just long term as a dog, he's 743 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 2: going to be profitable for us for our entire lives. 744 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, if we don't this one all right, that sucks, 745 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 2: but we know long term he's gonna make us money 746 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 2: betting him in this exact spot. 747 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're gonna have about six games 748 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: we want to put in and this one is going 749 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: to be on the fence. I really believe that New 750 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: York Jets at Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steelers are now two 751 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: point dogs. It is ticked up since the DeVante Adams news, 752 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: but really the real reason here is because of Russell 753 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 1: Wilson practicing with the first team and Adam schefter saying 754 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: that all signs are trending towards Russell Wilson starting, which 755 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: clearly is not the right decision. But this is what 756 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: makes the ticket and money split so interesting. The ticket's 757 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: slightly more on the Steelers, the money decidedly on the Jets. 758 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: As you said, the pros are on the Jets. Like 759 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: I feel actually okay with this In the contest, the 760 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: things that worry me are the line flipping from Steelers 761 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: to Jets. We know that historically when that happens since 762 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, the team that it flipped towards that is 763 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 1: not the favorite forty two percent against the spread. Tomlin 764 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: is a home dog, the best coach as a home 765 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: dog the past twenty years a generation. 766 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 4: Loo's the greatest of all time. 767 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 3: Look at your work, But look they're missing. 768 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: The Steelers are missing their center, Zach Frasier, top five 769 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: center according to Pro Football Focus. They're missing their guard, 770 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: James Daniels, top guard according to Pro Football Focus. So 771 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: there are like factors here beyond Russell Wilson that make 772 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: us lean Jets. 773 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 4: We all talk too much. Sharp dudes, can just see it. 774 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're right, the number is moving a lot, 775 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 2: like I wouldn't mind locking this sin hopefully again one 776 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 2: and a half in our contest, because it is going 777 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 2: up to two and a half of most. 778 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 4: Books at this point. 779 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 2: And yep, you know, it looks like I'll probably hit 780 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 2: three by kickoff because it's going to be such a 781 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 2: heavily publicly back game the Jets at this point. I 782 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: agree with the line movement, though, I when you talk 783 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 2: about I just I think Russell Wilson's bad and I 784 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 2: don't think it's gonna work out well for him. And 785 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: against a really good defensive front the Jets that yeah, 786 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 2: they sugar against their run, but they're pretty damn good against. 787 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: The pass, and you know, and their strength is their 788 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: defensive tackles. And the Steelers' weakness right now is in 789 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: fact they're missing. They're two of the best interior alignment 790 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL. 791 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 2: So it's just again, the lines were even so much. 792 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 2: I just want to grab it now because I think 793 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: there is still value. But you're right, it's like like 794 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 2: you're nervous about that Chiefs game. This makes me nervous 795 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 2: because it's like we're betting on one of the most 796 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: defunctional franchises as a favorite that has a ton of 797 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 2: drama going against a Tomlin team and what you're talking about, 798 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 2: it's like a raw ra spot pretty much. It's especially 799 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 2: if it hits three. It really is so a little 800 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 2: nerve wracking. But again, this is really a fade on 801 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. I just I think they're gonna put him 802 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 2: in there, he'll get demolished and then next week we 803 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 2: see Justin Fields once again. I just again, I don't 804 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 2: know why they're doing it. It's so bizarre. He's gotten 805 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 2: it to foreign too, and he's just he's looked so 806 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 2: well run the ball, and I know he hasn't been 807 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 2: the best passer, but you need a running quarterback, especially 808 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 2: behind such a bad offensive line. So I'm hoping here 809 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 2: we're taking advantage of a good number against a team 810 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 2: that's in transition right now, and it's Pittsburgh team, a. 811 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 1: Game that we both like, we can agree. I feel 812 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: good it'll be in the contest. Tampa Bay plus three 813 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: and a half. This was my exact decision on Tuesday. 814 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: I love Baker Mayfield against a porous, poorly ranked secondary 815 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: twenty first in the league in pass coverage giving up 816 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy five passing yards per game. By 817 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: the way, that's thirty first in the league, just just 818 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: ahead of the Jaguars. I like Videveya as an obstacle 819 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 1: for the Reson. He is the key Raven's rushing game. 820 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: Like that's I think that's really important. The things that 821 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: worry mere are the things that look not everything is 822 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: a clear decision, right, These are all going to be 823 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: fifty five to sixty percent decisions. We knowledge betting against 824 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson makes you uncomfortable. You're not gonna be any 825 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 1: more uncomfortable than you are betting against Patrick Mahomes, betting 826 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: against Josh Allen, betting against Lamar Jackson. Like it just 827 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: what happens, and like it's infuriating because of his mobility 828 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: and because of his record against the NFC. And of 829 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: course we were about Baker doing Baker things, but this 830 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 1: is a pro Joe split. 831 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 3: I'm sticking with the Bucks. 832 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's really like you said, it's it's all 833 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 2: about vit to Vey. If he can stop this whole 834 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: Derek Henry run, that's the key. Like he's been so 835 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 2: incredibly dominant for this Ravens team. Anytime they need a 836 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 2: big run, it feels like he gets it for him. 837 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 2: And he's been flipped. He's flipped a couple of games, 838 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 2: it seems like this season for this team. 839 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 4: So that's the big one. 840 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 2: And then, like you've talked about it, if Mike Evans 841 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 2: is back him and Godwin against the secondary, that's chef's kiss. 842 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 2: It's like this is the perfect matchup for them offensively, 843 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,720 Speaker 2: especially Baker. You know, as bad as he played against 844 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 2: that Saint Steam with those turnovers. He had those moments 845 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 2: of brilliance where it's just like, man, his arm talent's 846 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 2: so good, and when he needs to pull it down 847 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 2: and run the ball, he's been doing it this season, 848 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 2: like when things break down, he's got no issue. 849 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 4: Running the ball. 850 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 2: So we like backing Lamar. And it's only when it's 851 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 2: under three. I mean, you talk at NASA about that trend. 852 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 2: When it's under three, I think he's what twenties four 853 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 2: and seven at this point against the spread. When it's 854 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 2: above it, we do want to fade him. And you know, 855 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 2: last week ended up as being a push of the 856 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 2: plus seven of the Commanders. 857 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 4: But you see why. 858 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 2: It's like they're even Lamar's whole career. You know, they 859 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 2: usually they used to blow teams out, but we've seen 860 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 2: the last two years games usually get a little tight, 861 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 2: they get a little close towards the end. They really 862 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 2: haven't been closing teams out like they used to, and 863 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 2: that's why they went out and got Derrick Henry to 864 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 2: try to change that and just has not worked out 865 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 2: for them this year. Right, Like every game for the 866 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 2: most part for them is are pretty damn close. So 867 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 2: you know, this is another game I mean, you're just 868 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 2: trust the number, right chat, It's like plus three and 869 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 2: a half. It's a good number for a home divisional dog, 870 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 2: or not divisional dog, but a home dog. That's like 871 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 2: still a little underrated to the general public. And I 872 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 2: don't think me and you would be shocked if they 873 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,760 Speaker 2: pull up the upset and give Lamar's second career loss 874 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 2: to an NFC team. Right now, I believe he's twenty 875 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 2: one to one against the NFC. Pretty crazy, all right. 876 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: The last game that we want to talk about is 877 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: the Chargers at Arizona. You talked about Arizona. 878 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 4: Totally off the Giants. You know what, The Giants at all. 879 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 1: Hate him without Andrew Thomas, Like I already think that 880 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:44,439 Speaker 1: offense is terrible, that offense at home is terrible, that's true, 881 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 1: But the Eagles also are a little bit better than 882 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: the Giants. And like Andrew Thomas, I just like I 883 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: worry about what this team is going to do. I think, 884 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 1: to me, that is like, look, you know, offensive line 885 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,879 Speaker 1: everything to me when I'm thinking about evaluating this team, 886 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: these teams, it's why I love the Lion so much. 887 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 1: It's why I have a little more confidence about the Browns. 888 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: This week, You're missing the only All Pro player on 889 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: your team and Elik neighbors possibly, so. 890 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 4: Who want to Eagles pastual? Scares you? A thirty seven 891 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 4: year old brainding gram. 892 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. 893 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 2: I just I'm just down on this Eagles team right now. 894 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 2: But I get where you're coming from. But yeah, if 895 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 2: people want to know where I'm man, I'm still if 896 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 2: you get the three and a half, take the three 897 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 2: and a half. 898 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Chargers and the Cardinals for a second, 899 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 1: because you really like this game, and you I acknowledge 900 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: that we had to play it. It's so tempting, but like, 901 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: I don't feel strongly about it. It feels like crappy. 902 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 1: So like, if you're not feeling it, I'm not feeling it. 903 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: We got a list here of six. 904 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 2: Well, it's just obviously i'd much rather take the bucks 905 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 2: if we're gonna take one dog on this Monday night slate, 906 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 2: I feel way more confident and I like the number better. Right, 907 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 2: We're getting a great key number. But there was a 908 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 2: minute there that they touched three for this Cardinals team 909 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 2: and I was like, holy shit, this is three and 910 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 2: a half. This is we're gonna have two Monday Night 911 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 2: three and a half dogs in our contest. Now, I 912 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 2: was like gonna be beside myself. So luckily it's come 913 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 2: back down. But the Cardinals have to be the right 914 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 2: side like them. You know, we understand that they were 915 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 2: going to struggle in that Green Bay game, but it's 916 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 2: like I told you, that's such a throwaway game with 917 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 2: all the stoppiness and the turnovers in that rain. And 918 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 2: on the flip side, this Chargers team. You know, Herbert 919 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 2: played really well against that Broncos team, but we've seen 920 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 2: this year he's been inconsistent and a lot of their 921 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 2: what they've done so well this year is run the ball, 922 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 2: and that to me is why it's like, Okay. 923 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 4: I'm with you. 924 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 2: I'm not rushing to go bet this Arizona team because 925 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 2: their defense has just been so bad for so many 926 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 2: weeks in a row right now. Like I have pretty 927 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 2: good hand on Reid on this team. Like again, they've 928 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 2: had injuries as well Aris on his defense, but man, 929 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 2: they're so bad it's it's really hard to have confidence 930 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 2: of betting this team when it's not a plus three. 931 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 2: So Arizona, if you got the plus three, that's great. 932 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 2: If not, I wouldn't bet this one yet. I'd wait 933 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 2: for it to maybe get back up the plus three 934 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 2: by kickoff. 935 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: All right, it's really gonna come down to the Packers 936 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: minus two and a half, Cleveland plus six, Detroit plus 937 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,879 Speaker 1: one and a half, Tampa Bay plus three and a half. 938 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have a battle for the last 939 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 1: spot between Kansas City plus one and a half and 940 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: the Jets minus two. I think it's gonna be really 941 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: really interesting. Favorites contest reminder, everyone's lowest weekly scoring. The 942 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: contest has officially been dropped. Updated total scores are now 943 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: on the leaderboard. It's officially a race to finish for 944 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: our forty thousand dollars. 945 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 3: First place prize. Good Luck are Boosted money line underdog 946 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 3: Harlay moment. 947 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: I guess this guy can run all night. 948 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 3: And he will run three each week. 949 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 1: We give out a two team money line dog parlay 950 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: Bet three six five. Boost the Odds highlights it on 951 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: their site all weekend under both game pages. 952 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 3: Remember both games. 953 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: Are eligible for Bet three six fives early payout promo, 954 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: where you get your where your money line pick gets 955 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: marked as a win. If they take a seventeen point lead, 956 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: even if they lose. So if you want to bet this, 957 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: bet it at bet three sixty five. 958 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 3: This week's boosted. 959 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:30,479 Speaker 1: Parlay Kansas City Chiefs Detroit Lions find the boost under 960 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: either Chiefs or Lions game pages at bet three six five. 961 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: But let's do our underdog round robin. 962 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 3: There will come up payday Halla lou yo, waa pay day. 963 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 4: There will come up payday some day. Some day, there 964 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 4: will come up payday. 965 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 2: Halla lou yo wanna payday. 966 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 3: Tire will come up payday. 967 00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: Some day, Simon, I got some opinions, let's hear it. Well, 968 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 1: of course we'll do the Chiefs, and of course we'll do. 969 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 4: Detroit chunkiest dogs. Gotta do them. 970 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:19,280 Speaker 3: Hello Detroit, Hello Detroit. Should we do the Bucks? 971 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 4: Okay? I like that. That's fun. Gotta go Browns. 972 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, how you feel about the Browns? Yeah? 973 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 4: You got I mean, I have zero faith, but we 974 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 4: have to go. That's such a huge number. 975 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 3: It's a plus two. 976 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, give me one. 977 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,879 Speaker 2: This last one was tough because there's just a bunch 978 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,760 Speaker 2: of ugly ones. I like, if just pure value based 979 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 2: Vegas plus two fifty seems pretty tempted. How do you 980 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 2: feel about that? 981 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 4: One. 982 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,240 Speaker 1: I don't mind it at all, money Line, Underdog, Round Robin. 983 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 1: It's gonna be the Chiefs, it's gonna be Detroit, it's 984 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: gonna be the Bucks, it's gonna be the Browns, it's 985 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 1: gonna be Vegas. 986 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh we did miss uh the Foxhole? 987 00:47:54,560 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 4: Shoot, I mean, it's got to be Detroit, right, try. 988 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 3: How is it fox Holy? Like everybody like the wise 989 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 3: guys like Detroit, not all of them. 990 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 2: That's why this number this isn't as this isn't as 991 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,399 Speaker 2: all all in. It was more about Detroit up two 992 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,800 Speaker 2: and a half. That's where it was like, okay, that 993 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 2: that was the professional heavy side. 994 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 3: All right, let's go with Detroit as the foxhole. Then 995 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 3: we know we're going the. 996 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 2: Only one I could think of was the Jets. But like, 997 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 2: is that really that fox Hooley either? 998 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 3: You know, it's not right. Kansas City feels more fox 999 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 3: Holy potentially to me. 1000 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 4: I love that you're so weary of this Kansas City from. 1001 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 3: A professional perspective, then you know. 1002 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does feel like you're doing something wrong there 1003 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 2: with that one. 1004 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 4: I do agree. 1005 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: So, but let's go with Detroit. We know we're going 1006 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: to put Detroit in the contest. Let's make it the Foxholt. 1007 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 1: Let's good catch, Matt Mitchell, way to produce, Buddy, this. 1008 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 3: Is a Titus. 1009 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,240 Speaker 5: This twenty twenty four team has been we found something special. 1010 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 2: Man. 1011 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 5: I felt it's like we're in here together. 1012 00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 4: Nobody's coming out of that circle. 1013 00:48:59,640 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 2: Man. 1014 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 5: That's exactly where you want to be right now. 1015 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 3: All right, Simon, your biggest bets as we stand here Thursday. 1016 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 2: Definitely Detroit, Definitely Chiefs, Like as you say it right now, 1017 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 2: those are two ones I've hit. Jets, I've hit pretty heavy. 1018 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 2: Bucks I'm waiting on because I'm still waiting on the 1019 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 2: Mike Evans information. 1020 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 4: And you know, Cleveland. 1021 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 2: I wish I could have gotten more down to six 1022 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,760 Speaker 2: and a half, which I was right like, I didn't 1023 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 2: really get that much. So yeah, sitting right now, it's 1024 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,720 Speaker 2: pretty chalky. Honestly, it's like I'm pretty heavy on Lions 1025 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 2: at two and a half, but pretty heavy on them 1026 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 2: at two stay with the Chiefs, pretty heavy at one 1027 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:40,800 Speaker 2: and a half. I could see by kickoff, you know, Bucks, Jets, 1028 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 2: Browns all make that you know list you want to 1029 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 2: do Scoot Roulette. 1030 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: I want to do Scoots Roulett. I mean, you're gonna 1031 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,399 Speaker 1: go first, because you're crushing me right now, So go first. 1032 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 1: Choose the game that I want to choose, because I 1033 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: know you're going to take my pick, So go ahead. 1034 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,839 Speaker 4: Who would Chad want to take? I mean, I don't 1035 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 4: want do bucks. 1036 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's your pick, I might just 1037 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 2: keep going my my Detroit lines. 1038 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 3: That's what I wanted to take. 1039 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 2: All right, I'll give them to you then, Hi, thank you. 1040 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 3: Listen. 1041 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 5: My job is to coach what's here, and I'm going 1042 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 5: to coach the hell out of them. 1043 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 4: I'll go to Kansas City Chiefs. 1044 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 3: You are a baller. That's amazing. 1045 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 1: All right, Let's get Evan to tell us something save. 1046 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 3: Us, make us feel better. 1047 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 1: Evan Abrams, Director, all right, let's get Evan to tell 1048 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 1: us something sa save us, make us feel better. 1049 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 3: Evan Abrams, director of research. Talk to us the last 1050 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 3: word with Evan Abrams. We're finished talking. 1051 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,919 Speaker 5: It's hilarious that Chad was one way on Kansas City. 1052 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 5: Simon just brought it all the way back. And I'm 1053 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 5: gonna start with Kansas City because we figured you guys 1054 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 5: were going there anyway. Here's maybe an angle you haven't heard, 1055 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 5: so I kind of put a few things together here. 1056 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 5: So last decade, Andy Reid has been a dog off 1057 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 5: of by four times, four and oh straight up, four 1058 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 5: and oh against the spread in his career. 1059 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 4: Here that Chad say it again one more time, Evan. 1060 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 5: It's four and oh three up and against the spread. 1061 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 5: But that's just that last decade. So in his career 1062 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 5: he's seven and two straight up in eight and one 1063 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 5: against the number. Oh my god, terrible. But his two 1064 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 5: losses if you think the other side is difficult, his 1065 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 5: two losses are to Peyton Manning and twenty thirteen and 1066 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 5: Tom Brady in the Super Bowl. Real difficult there. Here's 1067 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 5: the one that I thought was just ridiculous. So Kansas 1068 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 5: City has gone sixteen straight regular season games without winning 1069 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,720 Speaker 5: the turnover margin. They're eleven and five in those games, 1070 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 5: so they win no matter what. And maybe if you 1071 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 5: get lucky, they get a few turnovers in this one. 1072 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 5: All right, let's go to Tampa Bay. To me, this 1073 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 5: bet is all about the number strictly. Even after a 1074 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 5: twelve and oh ats run for road favorites the last 1075 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 5: two weeks, road favorites of three and a half or 1076 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 5: more are still just forty five percent. Since twenty twenty. 1077 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 5: Here's the fun one. Lamar is five and nine as 1078 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 5: a road favorite of three and a half for more 1079 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,240 Speaker 5: since twenty twenty. Here are the worst five quarterbacks ats 1080 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,720 Speaker 5: in that spot in that span. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, 1081 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,359 Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady. This is not an 1082 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 5: easy spot for anybody, So play the number here and then. 1083 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 5: I wasn't gonna do this, but I'll give you one 1084 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,240 Speaker 5: quick thing on Buffalo because I thought you guys earlier 1085 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:12,959 Speaker 5: in the week were maybe leaning on laying the number. 1086 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 5: It's gotten up to nine, nine and a half, but 1087 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 5: it's worth repeating. We've said it on the show before. 1088 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 5: Alan has seventy two wins in his career. Fifty one 1089 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,399 Speaker 5: or seventy percent of those have all been by seven 1090 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,359 Speaker 5: points or more when the line six or more. He's 1091 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 5: actually been in that spot forty two times, and of 1092 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 5: those forty two, he's only lost eight in that scenario. 1093 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 5: He usually does push the number up, and I tweeted 1094 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 5: this early in the week. Will Levis one hundred and 1095 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 5: fifty eight quarterbacks have started ten games in the last 1096 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 5: twenty years. He's two and twelve against a second half spread. 1097 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 5: So even if it's close at the half, he is 1098 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,800 Speaker 5: two and twelve second half ats in his career, and 1099 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 5: outside of Monday Night Football where he's two and zero, 1100 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 5: he is oh in twelve second half ats. 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