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Speaker 1: This is Mick Shots, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 3: And the official Dallas Cowboys apt.

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Speaker 1: Now Here are Bill Jones, Hecma Harrison, Everson Walls, and

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 4: It is a Tuesday inside the SWBC podcast studio. And

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Speaker 4: this is Trade Deadline Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's not the.

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Speaker 4: Day after Monday Night Football. It's Trade Deadline Tuesday. Bill Jones,

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Speaker 4: Everson Walls, Hekma Harrison, and Mickey's Spagnola. This is Mick Shots.

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Speaker 4: And we've got so much to talk about, so little

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Speaker 4: time to do it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, they say deadlines make deals, so a deal

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Speaker 5: has already been made, Micking.

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Speaker 3: I want to yeah about it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we're just completely dismissing what happened last night. We're

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Speaker 4: moving on.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what do you mean what? I don't know what

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Speaker 6: you're talking about? What happened?

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Speaker 7: Don't you think what happened had some effect of what

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Speaker 7: happens today.

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Speaker 6: Should have happened before.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yesterday, he used him last night.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, get him on a plane.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday.

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Speaker 4: He couldn't it because he played Sunday, should have been

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Speaker 4: last week.

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Speaker 7: You can't play twice in a week.

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Speaker 4: Two weeks ago, Cowboys traded for Logan Wilson, the linebacker

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Speaker 4: from the Cincinnati Bengals. This morning, in case you have

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Speaker 4: it known, they gave up a seventh round draft pick.

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Speaker 4: Jerry Jones this morning says they could still be active,

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Speaker 4: could be more moves made by the three o'clock Dallas

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Speaker 4: time deadline. Now you take it away while I fix

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Speaker 4: my head set.

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Speaker 6: And so now we're sensitve urgency? Huh?

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Speaker 7: What's that?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 2: We I mean, you know, do we still have a chance?

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Speaker 2: I mean sense of urgency?

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Speaker 6: Now? Will we? Three?

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Speaker 7: Five and one?

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Speaker 3: He got it?

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Speaker 7: That's it.

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Speaker 3: Hit the nail right on the head, right off the top.

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Speaker 7: There's only ten teams in the NFC with better records.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, he'll find a silver lining Walter.

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Speaker 6: My god, that's something this guy here.

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Speaker 7: Ten teams.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So come on, guys, I want to know about

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Speaker 5: this new linebacker we got.

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Speaker 3: Mick. Can't you tell me anything about him? Is he?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, Bill can do that. I'm sure he went

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Speaker 2: to high school somewhere out here in Tech.

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Speaker 3: No, he didn't, he didn't he went to school in Wyoming.

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Speaker 2: But but he went to your Sure he went to you, right,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that that had something.

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Speaker 5: Well, Mickey's ignoring me, so I'll talk to you. So

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Speaker 5: it's all good. I'm used to it.

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Speaker 7: An, it's a seventh round pick, right, the guy is

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Speaker 7: you know, it had been a starter team captain.

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Speaker 4: You got problems too, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I'm good. I'm good to go now, I'm good to go. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: we got all thest false wires around.

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Speaker 4: False about Logan Wilson, the knewest cowboy. You don't want

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Speaker 4: to care. You don't care about talking about what happened

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Speaker 4: last night.

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Speaker 7: Yet, No, whichever you want to do. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 7: he he's been a starter, he's been in the league.

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Speaker 7: He was a productive player for him. I'm not sure

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Speaker 7: what happened this year, but they decided I read in

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Speaker 7: the Cincinnati Inquirer that they were going to go younger, younger.

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Speaker 3: That's not like that, giving up on the season a rookie.

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Speaker 7: Well they're three and six.

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Speaker 3: But now that division is that's about the same.

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Speaker 6: But that division is bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they.

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Speaker 4: Lost their quarterback Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: And and their defense is worse than ours. Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: only one. And this is a guy that couldn't get

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Speaker 7: All right, Like, what did you expect him to do? No?

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Speaker 5: I have no expectations whatsoever, Mickey, none at all. At

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Speaker 5: this point, I am I'm hanging pack with what we have.

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Speaker 5: After and I said after the Denver loss is look,

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Speaker 5: here's you guys educated me on the fact. I was

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Speaker 5: one of those people that was thinking NFL players the

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Speaker 5: one percent of the one percent. And when a guy

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Speaker 5: that's that's his opportunity to show that he's a part

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Speaker 5: of that one percent. But I know otherwise, now, if

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Speaker 5: you're an undrafted free agent, a guy that's barely hanging

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Speaker 5: on practice squad player, good luck, you know, making an

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Speaker 5: impact on Sundays. Our defense from Denver to yesterday at home,

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Speaker 5: it's the same things happening over and over again. And

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Speaker 5: to me, it's just going to be the way that

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Speaker 5: you narrate the twenty twenty five our boys season that

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Speaker 5: the defense just isn't any good.

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Speaker 2: And to me, you know, you if you look at

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Speaker 2: the dynamic here, and you have a coach kind of

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Speaker 2: has a proven record as a coordinator. Head coach a

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Speaker 2: whole different story talking about thinking. So and you have

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Speaker 2: these players who've had a few practices, they had had

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Speaker 2: a training camp, and I get that I still haven't

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Speaker 2: seen improvement. I put that on the players themselves. Once again,

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Speaker 2: we're football players. We don't have to grow into football.

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Speaker 2: We've already played a lot of football. Those defenses have

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Speaker 2: not changed for the most part, especially in the secondary.

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Speaker 2: All you're talking about is being where you're supposed to be.

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Speaker 2: We haven't shown that we can do that, whether the

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Speaker 2: small little nuances that you should really know in co

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Speaker 2: And so to me, the players themselves don't seem to

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Speaker 2: have it in them kind of what you're saying. But

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Speaker 2: also it lets me know that we need to be

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Speaker 2: more consistent on who we recruit from now on, because, yeah,

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Speaker 2: practice players, I get that, But that.

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Speaker 3: Practice player you might have, we know it, he might

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Speaker 2: So you want to put a good product out there,

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Speaker 2: and I think they need to start. They need to

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Speaker 2: start doing batter on those products because once given the

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Speaker 7: So you're talking about lack of ability.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and lack of scouting ability.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I got you on that. Yeah, but before we

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Speaker 7: trying to tell you sometimes it's about who you have playing,

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Speaker 7: not how you're asking them to play. That they don't understand.

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Speaker 6: That sounds like you said the same thing.

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Speaker 7: But I think the bigger problem is this is two

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Speaker 7: got going on the defense, the offense has faltered. I

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Speaker 7: went back and look, they did not score an offensive

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Speaker 3: Half to the fourth.

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Speaker 7: I went back seventy games until I found twenty one.

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Speaker 7: It's crazy, all right, And now why did they They

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Speaker 7: scored an offensive touchdown touchdown, yes, not a field goal,

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Speaker 3: That they've gone a whole half.

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Speaker 7: Without a touchdown offensively, and I think, to me, that's alarming.

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Speaker 7: When you did the same thing this week as you

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Speaker 7: and you came away this time with no points. Now,

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Speaker 7: I'm glad he went for it, but that doesn't discount

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Speaker 7: and that's fine. But he knew with this offense and

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Speaker 7: the way it was playing, that they needed to score touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: So now what you're looking at and they did, you're

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Speaker 2: looking at a desperate coaching staff. Yes, how many we

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Speaker 2: are Yes time, we are choking right now.

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Speaker 7: How many times did they go for it on fourth

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Speaker 4: Twice?

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Speaker 7: Three? It was three and they were zero for three.

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Speaker 7: But you're desperate, so you're going you have to do.

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Speaker 6: Players can feel it.

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Speaker 5: But the reason why you're going for it on fourth

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Speaker 5: down is because we've been talking about all week about

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Speaker 5: how bad your defense is and that's the reason why.

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Speaker 2: You well and our third downs, letting you know that's

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Speaker 2: suffering as well. You know, we were kind of rolling

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Speaker 2: as this machine was going up in the first part

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Speaker 2: of the season, and like you said, the last two

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Speaker 2: games there have been issues. They have shot themselves in

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Speaker 2: the foot penalties that have come, of course.

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Speaker 7: Untimely, especially inside the ten yard line.

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Speaker 6: That's at home is at home on the road.

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Speaker 7: That's brutal, but it wasn't It wouldn't matter. You can

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Speaker 7: was a holding call.

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Speaker 4: When was the third time they went for it? Was

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Speaker 4: that the last drive of the game. Probably, Oh well.

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Speaker 3: You checked out, you stop writing, you stop right.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 7: It was.

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Speaker 4: The ones in question are the two on fourth and

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Speaker 7: In the fourth quarter, right first play the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 7: which I guess they could have And.

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Speaker 4: I know that it's your theory all along that and more.

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Speaker 4: You kick field goals close yard are losing, and they

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Speaker 4: what that's just yeah, some of those And if you

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Speaker 4: add it up, if you add up the field goals

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Speaker 4: at the end of the game that you didn't decide

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Speaker 4: to kick, you're right there.

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Speaker 6: One score.

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Speaker 4: But that and Javonte Williams might not be and George

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Speaker 4: Pickens in the second half might not be trying to

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Speaker 4: get every single extra yards yard because the team is

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Speaker 4: so desperate because you're coming from ten or seventeen points

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Speaker 4: behind and you got to do everything you can to win,

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Speaker 4: and so you might have been in a position to

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Speaker 4: kick a third field goal.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that can't can't. You can't assume that.

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Speaker 4: The game is going to play out what it was.

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Speaker 4: But but if you did, if you did the math,

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Speaker 4: just if you kick the field goals, you are right there.

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Speaker 4: And it's ay right, you know, four point games.

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Speaker 7: As long as it played out the way they did

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Speaker 7: and they shut down there.

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Speaker 2: What you saw was a defense that keeps pressure in

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Speaker 2: every area of the game. No matter what, You're gonna

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Speaker 2: have more than one man around the ball all the time,

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Speaker 2: and their reaction is gonna be top notch. So when

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Speaker 2: to be ready for something to come quickly. You can't

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Speaker 2: be surprised by it. You can't just think, oh, I'm

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Speaker 2: about to break this tackle and I'm good. No, there's

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Speaker 2: gonna be someone else coming. I mean, these are kind

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Speaker 2: of things that you know that a team is. They

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Speaker 7: They were known for losing five consecutive games, and.

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Speaker 2: You know how they lost. Yeah, but you know that

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Speaker 2: they lost to some good teams.

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Speaker 3: But still so you couldn't see this coming there?

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Speaker 7: Oh I did.

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Speaker 6: That's what I wrote about with me.

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Speaker 4: Then that's the question, are you surprised what happened last night?

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Speaker 4: And if you took these two ross the guys that

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Speaker 4: you're picking as a pickup game, and you're picking, Okay,

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Speaker 4: I want that guy. I want to get. Who would

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Speaker 4: How many more Cowboy players would you picked? The Cardinal players?

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Speaker 4: If you just line them up?

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Speaker 6: He would?

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Speaker 4: I would not, No, I would not. When I look

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Speaker 6: Well, not definitely. Not on the defensive line.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they had tied their season high with five sacks.

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Speaker 2: Of course they did. They played against us, the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was nice at a quarterback.

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Speaker 7: See to me, the biggest difference in this game was

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys offensive line did not play well two weeks

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Speaker 5: But you've said, Mickey that you know, the Cowboys offense

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Speaker 5: support that offense in any way, you can't have an.

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Speaker 2: Off night where you are feeling the pressure.

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Speaker 6: They are feeling the pressure.

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Speaker 7: But that doesn't mean the offensive line doesn't play better.

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Speaker 7: What's happened? They figured these two these last two teams

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Speaker 7: figured something out well.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that they have talent on those defensive lines, those

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Speaker 2: two defense that's right. Thing that they found out that

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Speaker 2: that's why I'm not surprised. I mean, there are times

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Speaker 2: if I'm playing, if I'm gonna pick two teams the

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Speaker 2: that we will probably struggling against these It.

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Speaker 4: Especially when the first round draft picks now playing for

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Speaker 2: And then I guess showed up, showed I guess the

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Speaker 7: You know, yeah, but the guy that killed him was

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Speaker 6: They all killed him? They all killed him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dominos down the line, and you know, a team

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Speaker 2: And we tried.

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Speaker 7: But with their quarterback, well is he a backup quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, we gotta ask some

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Speaker 2: important questions about Jacoby Brissett now, because because you've got

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Speaker 2: several quarterbacks in the league that are just like that,

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Speaker 6: I mean, can I say it like that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, because you know he said in a pessimistic way,

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, say, damn good, that's a damn good quarterback

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Speaker 2: right there. Jacobyssett, Hey, what do you?

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Speaker 5: Let's say it NFC Player of the Week Jacoby Brissett.

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Speaker 7: Or Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 6: Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 7: Once again the Cowboys are adding to the awards.

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Speaker 6: It can't be like there's an agent out there.

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Speaker 2: Boy, my guys, boy as the Cowboys today, that can't

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Speaker 2: be right, man, that get these stats right now. The penalties,

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Speaker 2: and just continue to back ourselves up special teams. Even

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, finally something goes right for us.

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Speaker 2: You have the Ferguson penalty, not enough Ferguson fumble, which

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Speaker 3: Right. It's not like they made.

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Speaker 4: Up for it by getting a stop and getting alight

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Speaker 6: And then you got them.

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Speaker 3: Actually you're feeling like so.

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Speaker 4: Actually the Ferguson fumble was not that big a deal

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Speaker 4: that because they didn't do anything with that.

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Speaker 3: You for making my point scoring touch that don't.

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Speaker 6: Give them a pass and we're not pass.

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Speaker 4: Okay, But it was a ten to seven game right there. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so you had to kick the field goal to start

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Speaker 7: Their front bulls continue to happen in Arizona territory. You're

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Speaker 2: I mean to me, if I'm looking at and I

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Speaker 6: Everything right that they're doing, you're not.

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Speaker 2: You know the way they attack the ball, Yep, they

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Speaker 2: and take it to that. We always only have one man,

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Speaker 6: The force we need because you have to have force

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Speaker 2: Suddenness when a guy's carrying the ball, that makes it

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Speaker 2: they that's why we're always peeling off of everyone. We

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Speaker 7: The offensive line. Somebody's figured something out.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: It seemed early in the season that the the Schottenheimer

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Speaker 6: I had to be the tight ends.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well the tight ends and then just motion. It

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Speaker 5: And Denver figure usher. Denver figured it out, and now

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Speaker 4: But it's at some point you just can't hide it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well Vegas is got that's going to come in

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Speaker 7: You're playing with. They finished the game, so in the

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Speaker 6: Enthusiasm. Can only go so far.

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Speaker 7: So and then they finally said, okay, Nate Thomas, you're in.

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Speaker 7: He he at least kind of held his own a

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Speaker 7: they weren't picking it up. Javonte Williams picked up a

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Speaker 7: god knows how many pressures they had. He didn't have

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Speaker 4: So when you look at this offensive line, and this

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Speaker 4: in Carolina, who's reviewing that game. So on, the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: got a great offensive line. They got this, But when

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Speaker 4: you break it down to your point, you've got a

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Speaker 7: And Nate Thomas was playing his third NFL game at tackle.

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Speaker 4: They played eighteen snaps last night, I think is what

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Speaker 4: they've been really good. And you know, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I think I said something a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 4: Broncos guys that leads the league in sacks.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you know good sacks last year too,

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Speaker 7: The bad thing was they obviously thought they could run

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Speaker 7: And then when you look up and it's twenty seven

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Speaker 2: I would like to see what our third downs look like. Well,

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Speaker 4: Drives and kill can tell you. Their third downs were

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Speaker 7: They finished seven for thirteen, but that was the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 7: The Cowboys were five of twelve.

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Speaker 5: So do you grade that performance by the offensive line

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Speaker 4: I think I think it's just for the entire season. Really,

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Speaker 2: Because it doesn't get into easier right as far as

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Speaker 4: And it's a talented offensive line and it's just okay,

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Speaker 4: how quickly can they come of age.

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Speaker 2: Well, how quickly can they make an adjustment, because I mean,

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Speaker 4: I keep in mind BB hadn't played the last six weeks,

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Speaker 7: Was not there that and they got seduced early by

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Speaker 4: Was getting nine yards a clip.

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Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, and then all of a sudden, that's.

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Speaker 4: Why they thought they could make it on fourth and

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Speaker 2: I have to be on like the two yard line

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Speaker 6: That's just me.

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Speaker 4: I look at it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in the game, this is yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: But it's like you're chase then chasing points when you

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Speaker 2: When you go for two, you're on the three?

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Speaker 6: Are you only two? You're not on the flour right right?

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Speaker 4: So all right, we got to get you caught up

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Speaker 4: Okay, the breaking news in the NFL here in the

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Speaker 4: last half hour is that the New York Jets have

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Speaker 4: traded cornerback Sauce Gardner to the Indianapolis Colts in exchange

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Speaker 4: for not one, but two first round picks. And I

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Speaker 4: saw reports wide receiver No. The twenty six and twenty

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Speaker 4: seven first round picks of the Colts go to the Jets.

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Speaker 4: Also ad Mitchell, the wide receiver out of Texas who's

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Speaker 4: in his second year place and has not done anything

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Speaker 4: yet in Indianapolis. He goes to the Jets. Sauce Gardner

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Speaker 4: had just signed this summer, yes, a four year, one

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Speaker 4: hundred and twenty million dollar contract extension.

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Speaker 2: So how does that work? From a money perspective, Well, it's.

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Speaker 4: The report that I see per over the cap trading.

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Speaker 4: Gardner leaves the Jets with eleven million dollars in dead

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Speaker 4: money this year and eight million dollars next year. So

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Speaker 4: it's a surprising that on the heels of that contract

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Speaker 4: extension they can trade him this quickly because usually too

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Speaker 4: much money come down.

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Speaker 7: Normally when you trade a guy, everything escalates into that year.

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Speaker 7: I don't know why it's split in two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 5: So he just went from football purgatory to a better way.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Indianapolis probably one of my most surprising teams

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Speaker 5: of this season, the way that they're playing. You were

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Speaker 5: just talking about their defense last last week, the Forest

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Speaker 5: Buckner and company. Uh, the way I mean. But man,

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Speaker 5: what a difference a trade makes for Sauce Gardner.

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Speaker 7: Well, there are the number one seed right now in

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Speaker 7: the AFC.

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Speaker 2: I think, I think, but I think what they saw

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Speaker 2: was something in this team that said, Okay, this is

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Speaker 2: no fluke, you know all we needed something, And that

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Speaker 2: to me, that's a move of confidence that this is

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Speaker 2: what this is all we need and we're gonna We're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to We're gonna have what two voice rounders? No,

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Speaker 2: they got they got sauce. No, that's gonna be supposed

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Speaker 2: to be their stamp on their conference season.

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Speaker 4: And what the Colts are running out there at cornerback?

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Speaker 4: Prior to this trade on their depth chart, they were

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Speaker 4: starting Mackai Blackman at left cornerback, Jalen Jones, a seventh

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Speaker 4: round pick at right cornerback, in Kenny Moore their nickelback.

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Speaker 4: So they upgrade, Yeah, they clearly upgrade a position.

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Speaker 11: So so so hopefully quickly look and see how much

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Speaker 11: they had to pay the quarterback to get him this year,

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Speaker 11: because I bet he came cheap the Denny Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, man, yeah he did. It was quick. I'll

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Speaker 4: look it up. But uh.

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Speaker 7: So you have money to kind of spread around.

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Speaker 4: But good old way one year, fourteen million dollars fourteen yep.

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Speaker 4: But they're about to sign him long term too, what

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Speaker 4: you would think?

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Speaker 2: So in regards to us, yes, yes, what's being made

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Speaker 2: too late?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 6: Is it? Is it?

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Speaker 2: I mean you know now we're really depending on outside forces.

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Speaker 4: Well, and the important thing to can to keep in

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Speaker 4: mind on the Logan Wilson trade is that he's got

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Speaker 4: two years left on his contract, and this is his

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Speaker 4: second contract. It was two years ago he signed a

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Speaker 4: four year, thirty six million dollar extension, So clearly they

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Speaker 4: think he's got a in reviewing tape that he still

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Speaker 4: got what merited that four year, thirty six million dollars.

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Speaker 4: I haven't looked at his contract, but we're going to

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Speaker 4: assume that's an average of nine million dollars a year, So.

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Speaker 7: It's six and six point five.

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Speaker 4: The next two that's his base salary the next couple

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Speaker 4: of years.

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Speaker 3: So but no.

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Speaker 7: Guarantees are left. So that's why they that's all.

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Speaker 4: The other thing to keep in mind, and one of

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Speaker 4: the reasons they had pulled the trigger on this trade

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Speaker 4: even before last night, is keep in mind at the

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Speaker 4: linebacker position. You feel, however you want to about what

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Speaker 4: they've got at the linebacker position right now. But one

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Speaker 4: of the guys, veteran guys they brought in, Jack Sanborn

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Speaker 4: from Chicago, is going on injured reserve and he's out

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Speaker 4: the next four games. They needed a reinforcement regardless, and

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Speaker 4: Logan Wilson had already asked for a trade, and a

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Speaker 4: guy with that kind of a resume who's still in

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Speaker 4: the eyes of the scouts here playing at a high

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Speaker 4: enough level and they're just giving up a seventh round

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Speaker 4: draft pick.

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Speaker 6: I told you when the need a linebacker, didn't that Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I said that.

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Speaker 7: Well, and then when they put Sam Born on, I

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Speaker 7: are the only backup linebacker was Demon Clark and obviously

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Speaker 7: they're not high on him anymore. Uh So if you

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Speaker 7: went three linebackers, you had the three guys out there

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Speaker 7: and you didn't have hardly anything else at linebacker, so

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Speaker 7: there there was a significant need. Now they're saying, uh oh,

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Speaker 7: this is Jerry saying that they felt like this guy

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Speaker 7: knows how to fill gaps, like hit the gap.

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Speaker 6: That's a that's a linebacker. Baby.

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Speaker 7: He tried, He tried to say his his instincts were

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Speaker 7: close to Layton van Dersher being that type of line.

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Speaker 2: They're going to give him m a fifty five because

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Speaker 2: he wore them with fifty five in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean, so that's the thing.

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Speaker 5: He's a he's a middle he's a middle linebacker. He's

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Speaker 5: a middle linebacker. So now, uh, Murray can move back

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Speaker 5: to his natural position.

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Speaker 4: And then you got overshown waiting in the wings. Well,

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Speaker 4: next game over shown it will be on the active roster,

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Speaker 4: assuming he's gonna play this.

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Speaker 7: Year, and we'll see if he's ready to play.

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Speaker 5: But I think prior to even this deadline, like you

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Speaker 5: had already said, you know, my linebacker was already you know,

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Speaker 5: in the pot for this team because you had to

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Speaker 5: upgrade the position in some way somehow, you know.

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Speaker 4: It was something very interesting that I don't know if

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Speaker 4: you listened to Jerry with Stephen A. Smith yesterday on

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Speaker 4: Sirius XM, but it was interesting. He was talking about

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Speaker 4: this trade obviously and breaking the news they had.

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Speaker 3: Made this trade trade that no one knew about it.

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Speaker 4: We can't say who it is, he said, Okay, Michael

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Speaker 4: Irvin de Marcus where we're on the show too, he said,

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Speaker 4: now this isn't Dick Buckis, but this is a linebacker

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Speaker 4: who will fill a gap. Okay. Which and then he

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Speaker 4: was talking about later in the show about the problems

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Speaker 4: with the defense, and part of it he was talking

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Speaker 4: about was it's about carrying out your assignment. Did you

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Speaker 4: hear this, Mickey, Yes? And he was talking about that

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Speaker 4: your defensive players have to carry out and your assignment

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Speaker 4: and he implied without naming any names and not necessarily

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Speaker 4: just talking about linebackers.

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Speaker 3: It could be everybody.

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Speaker 4: It's at whatever is if you basically, if you go

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Speaker 4: off the reservation and try to make a big play

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Speaker 4: and you're not carrying out your assignment, then it's going

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Speaker 4: to leave your defense susceptible to.

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Speaker 3: He could have been talking about a number of guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeahs looking at the film all year, I'm going I

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Speaker 4: watch a player. I won't say a name right now,

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Speaker 4: but I'll watch a player and he's like inside he's

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Speaker 4: crashing down, and I'm like, is he being coat? Was

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Speaker 4: that the was that the play was that? Was he

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Speaker 4: supposed to do that on that? Or is he trying

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Speaker 4: to make a big play?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 4: And I think that kind of tells me what Jerry

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Speaker 4: said yesterday. There's a lot of guys that were trying

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Speaker 4: to make a big play and more carrying out assignment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they've been doing that.

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Speaker 4: That's why he's saying, Oh there right.

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Speaker 6: Video when you say, Okay, maybe I shouldn't do that.

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Speaker 4: Gets this back to Logan Wilson. What I've read about

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Speaker 4: Logan Wilson, he is exactly the type of character, high character,

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Speaker 4: kart mental, smart player who is going to carry out

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Speaker 4: his assignment in fact, to the point that he gets

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Speaker 4: demoted by their new defensive coordinator Al Golden. A month ago,

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Speaker 4: still was playing getting the twenty snaps of game or whatever,

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Speaker 4: but they wanted to take because they're having troubles on

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Speaker 4: their defense their rookie fourth round draft pick out of Clemson,

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Speaker 4: Barrett Carter. They wanted to get him on the field.

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Speaker 4: And Logan Wilson goes to Barrett Carter, who he had

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Speaker 4: already taken under his wing, mentoring him and said, this

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Speaker 4: doesn't change our relationship. Okay, I am still coaching you

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Speaker 4: up just like I was when you were my backup.

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Speaker 4: I don't I want to have this when I look

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Speaker 4: back at my career and I'm facing some adversity right now,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to look back and say I didn't

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Speaker 4: handle it the right way. And so that shows the

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Speaker 4: kind of maturity that this Logan Wilson has and it

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Speaker 4: fits exactly the mold of what Brian Schottenheimer is trying

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Speaker 4: to when you look at what he did in the

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Speaker 4: draft and the types of players that they decided to draft.

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Speaker 4: That's the type of player that he wants on this

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Speaker 4: football team.

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Speaker 7: See, I think they overestimated what they were going to

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Speaker 7: get out of Jack Sanborn because that's what they thought

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Speaker 7: they were getting from Sanborn and just what you explained.

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Speaker 4: And then the difference is Logan Wilson has done it

666
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 4: as a starter in this league. He comes in, he

667
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: was a third round draft pick in twenty twenty, and

668
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 4: he's starting right off the bat, and he's going to

669
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, you know, right off the bat in

670
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 4: this league.

671
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 7: So Iberfluss would have played against him several times right

672
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 7: before he went.

673
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 4: To the Bears. Yeah, yeah, well right, I don't know

674
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 4: when Indianapolis and Cincinnati they would play.

675
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 7: Well, oh, that's right, they're not in the same dice.

676
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 5: So you know, even with even with Logan Wilson being

677
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 5: you know, coming here to Dallas, I think the problem

678
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 5: that we've been seeing with our linebackers has been the

679
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 5: fact that our defensive front hadn't been holding enough to

680
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 5: not allow those offensive linemen to get up on them.

681
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 5: I think Sam Born, for whatever it's worth, even Murray,

682
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 5: for whatever it's worth, these guys have been fighting through

683
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 5: a lot of traffic because you know, our offensive linemen

684
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 5: are up on them getting to the second and third level.

685
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 5: We saw that in the Denver game. So even look Logan,

686
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 5: Logan Wilson is a Dallas cowboy, can't wait to see you.

687
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 5: But just know that some of the problems offensive line

688
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 5: is still gonna be in his face.

689
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 6: They're still gonna be in his way.

690
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 5: Some of those problems that existed in Cincinnati will exist

691
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 5: here simply because we're still trying to figure that out

692
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 5: up front. And so as the trade deadline gets closer,

693
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 5: I'm watching to see if there's a maid, if there's

694
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 5: a move made for a defensive tackle. I saw that

695
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 5: I Guy Mazzi was inactive yesterday, Jaye Toya was active,

696
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 5: and they've been doing that dance back and forth fall season.

697
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: So I just want to see.

698
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 5: I want to see what other moves are going to

699
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 5: be made, and if those moves are made for the

700
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 5: defensive line.

701
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: It probably will because what I saw were linebackers. They

702
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 2: had a particular angle where the running back was coming

703
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: right at the camera and all you saw were linebackers

704
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: trying to get off of blocks.

705
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 6: That's all you saw, and they were just parting the waves.

706
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 5: And you know, perimeter defense for you as a corner,

707
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 5: a guy that would be on the outside, and especially

708
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 5: when they're not a sweet but the power coming outside.

709
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 5: I mean I was seeing times where Cincinnati was loading up,

710
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 5: you know, bringing in an extra offensive line and going

711
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 5: with that power.

712
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 4: Only you're talking about last night, last night in Arizona.

713
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 5: Okay, excuse me, Arizona getting to the outside, and again

714
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 5: they were picking up eight nine yards second and ten

715
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 5: and picking up you know, big yards.

716
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 6: And it's hard.

717
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: It's hard for a defensive back even with a wide

718
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: receiver here running back coming full speed. No one's touched him,

719
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: and now you have to get off of this guy

720
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: to make the tackle. Most of the time you're not

721
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: going to have get to be able to get.

722
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 6: Your head across the way you're taught to do.

723
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 2: So now you're just going with one arm, breaking tackles right,

724
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 2: not going to work.

725
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 6: And that's where they start. Just we just fall off

726
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 6: of them.

727
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: Were just falling off with running backs and then they

728
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 2: get to lean for another five ten yards.

729
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 7: Well do you realize how many times they went three

730
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 7: tight ends? I did not, And it wasn't three tight ends,

731
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 7: it was two tight ends.

732
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 3: And an extra office man going in motion.

733
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going in.

734
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: Right, Kelvin Beacher, Madam he in Texas. There you go

735
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 4: huh their way with him a little bit last night.

736
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 4: Uh that starting tackle.

737
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, and so uh they were saying, we're running at

738
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 7: you m hm and and and they didn't do a very.

739
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 6: Good Well, we can't be surprised about that.

740
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 7: No, no, and you know, and a lot of times

741
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 7: it was too tight end. So now you got the

742
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 7: problem of how do you cover McBride right, because you're

743
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 7: in your base defense, but you got a tight end

744
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 7: that's a wide receiver.

745
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: Well we don't, we don't have one as a wide receiver,

746
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: but that's kind of how we use uh right, and

747
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: it just but we got to give credit to their

748
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator down on the goal line on that move

749
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 2: to Marvin Harrison. They came in with that jumbo package

750
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: and he was isolated on the outside with the run.

751
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 3: Bland. Hell of a move.

752
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 7: By the way, did you see when they showed c

753
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 7: D's face.

754
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: I mean that's all you can He was like, holy.

755
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 7: The movie made touchdown. It was.

756
00:39:54,440 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: All right, you don't see a quarterbacks ankles. What you

757
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: have is it wasn't the offense, it was the defensive guy.

758
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 6: He just he just wasn't ready. The move was okay, guys,

759
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 6: all right?

760
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: He came out there, and he's seen CD do it

761
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: in practice the whole time.

762
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 6: Because actually CD's move, that's why.

763
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 4: Something something you never saw Marvin Harrison's senior do from

764
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 4: the left side. What's that is a move lining up

765
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 4: at wide receiver on the left side and making a

766
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 4: move like that, he was exclusively right side.

767
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 5: Let me tell you no disrespect though, I just saying

768
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 5: this before the game even thought that was what I

769
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 5: was thinking was his dad was so good when he

770
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 5: played that, it's got to be a ton of pressure

771
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 5: on this kid. And the reason why after two years

772
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 5: he hadn't had that breakout season or even that breakout

773
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 5: game because of the pressure that comes along with it.

774
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 5: But hearing during the Brack cast about his dad, If

775
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 5: you guys read this story about his dad saying I

776
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 5: can't watch the game because of the way that the

777
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 5: offenses play calling for my son, well, they must have

778
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 5: obviously heard what he said, because he was targeted a

779
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 5: whole bunch in that first half. But what tremendous pressure

780
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 5: as a player to have a dad as a Hall

781
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 5: of Famer Super Bowl champion, you know, a guy that

782
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 5: almost fifteen thousand yards of one hundred, so touchdowns and

783
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 5: have to walk in those shoes, I mean and low

784
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 5: and behold.

785
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: Just yesterday he comes, he has a.

786
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 6: Cat and he played against the hell of a defensive back.

787
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 7: He made him look average and he had he had

788
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 7: his breakout game.

789
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, and we got to go to break you

790
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 4: know me. Tackles to run blandehead last night.

791
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 6: Too many every time he cassed. Yeah, I mean, no, no, no,

792
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.

793
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 7: I'm going to guess ten.

794
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 4: Ten got a number. I'm gonna go six fourteen tackle

795
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 4: damn fourteen.

796
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 7: And it wasn't like he was off in the mid

797
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 7: that ah, and a lot of it was against the

798
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 7: run because they were putting him in the slaughter. Oh.

799
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 3: He and nicoleteld today.

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Speaker 4: The Cowboys now have the bye week. It's two full

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00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 4: weeks before the next game, a Monday night game at

845
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Speaker 4: Las Vegas. And when the Cowboy come back, they've got

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00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,520
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Speaker 4: in the span of eighteen days.

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00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 3: Well that's tough.

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Speaker 4: That's a record as far as three games in eleven

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Speaker 4: Kansas City, and Detroit.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Well, once again, we knew that we're going to Vegas,

858
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: and Vegas looked pretty decent the other night, and I'm

859
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 2: pretty sure they'll tie all of that together.

860
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 4: Brock Powers.

861
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 3: Just in time, huh, just in time? Just sit the

862
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 3: nick of time. Come on, they got quarterback issues.

863
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 6: I think I picked a click.

864
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: Would be to see who's going to have their breakout

865
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 2: game against the Cowboys.

866
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 6: That's what we need to pick up their player? Yeah,

867
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 6: which one of the who's gonna be their player? Yeah?

868
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 6: That would that'd be pretty good.

869
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 9: You know.

870
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 7: The weird thing is, though, if you look at and

871
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 7: you know, I know it's coach speak when they talk

872
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 7: about inconsistency, but five sacks, they had eight tackles for

873
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 7: losses and eleven quarterback hits. Those have to be highs

874
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 7: for the season. Yet they still gave up twenty seven

875
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 7: points almost like that.

876
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 5: Hell, if you told me they gave up twenty seven points,

877
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 5: I would have said, at least we scored forty, right,

878
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 5: it was forty twenty seven.

879
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 3: That's all we gave up, was twenty seven to me,

880
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 3: to me.

881
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 7: This loss. If last week's loss was bad.

882
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 4: This one was worse.

883
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 6: I thought. I think that as well, Really I do.

884
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 6: The timing is bad.

885
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 7: You're at home, You've been scoring forty points a game.

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Speaker 7: You were desperate. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: The stock is going down, down, down.

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00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 7: Two and five five straight games. And then you lay

889
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 7: an egg. And then and the strength of your team

890
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 7: right was offense, right, and you scored one offensive touchdown.

891
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 4: Oh, we got some breaking news trade. The Chicago Bears

892
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 4: have traded for a defensive end from the Cleveland Browns.

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00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 12: No, wow, you look at he's a horrible actor.

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00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, we smell that coming a mile away. But we

895
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Speaker 6: know too well.

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Speaker 4: All right, I think we're out of time, you know

897
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 4: we are.

898
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 6: Okay?

899
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Speaker 4: Are you predicting another trade by three o'clock? How many

900
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 4: age before three o'clock?

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Speaker 6: Two?

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Speaker 4: I bet they're player player coming or going?

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Speaker 3: Not a huge one.

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Speaker 7: Oh, that's a good question.

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Speaker 5: I would I would predict a player going before I

906
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 5: predicted a player coming.

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Speaker 6: I'll pick the player coming.

908
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 4: I'm predicting both.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'll split split it.

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Speaker 4: Two trades, one coming, one going, maybe the same rade.

911
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Speaker 4: It could be, it could be, it could be three going.

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Speaker 4: Who knows. All Right, we'll talk about it again tomorrow

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Speaker 4: at high noon here on Mixshots Go Cowboys.

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