1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:22,155 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Why 2 00:00:22,195 --> 00:00:27,155 Speaker 1: did Trump imply he was quote being charged under the 3 00:00:27,355 --> 00:00:33,395 Speaker 1: Insurrection Act? Why did Trump put that out those words 4 00:00:33,995 --> 00:00:38,915 Speaker 1: Insurrection Act on his social media propaganda site, And why 5 00:00:38,915 --> 00:00:41,395 Speaker 1: did he then delete that post within half an hour 6 00:00:41,715 --> 00:00:47,355 Speaker 1: and replace the words Insurrection Act with the words Espionage Act. 7 00:00:48,675 --> 00:00:53,435 Speaker 1: Is there a chance somebody has told him that he 8 00:00:53,555 --> 00:01:00,355 Speaker 1: may actually be charged under the Insurrection Act? Could Jack 9 00:01:00,395 --> 00:01:05,275 Speaker 1: Smith be prosecuting him under the disqualification clause of Section 10 00:01:05,395 --> 00:01:09,435 Speaker 1: three of the fourteenth Amendment? Could the Special Council be 11 00:01:09,595 --> 00:01:14,675 Speaker 1: trying to get Donald Trump disqualified from ever again holding 12 00:01:14,835 --> 00:01:22,675 Speaker 1: office in this country? The very thought of it is breathtaking. Quote. 13 00:01:22,915 --> 00:01:25,835 Speaker 1: No person shall be a senator or representative in Congress, 14 00:01:26,275 --> 00:01:29,835 Speaker 1: or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any 15 00:01:29,875 --> 00:01:34,315 Speaker 1: office civil or military under the United States or under 16 00:01:34,355 --> 00:01:37,835 Speaker 1: any State, who, having previously taken an oath as a 17 00:01:37,835 --> 00:01:41,075 Speaker 1: member of Congress or as an officer of the United States, 18 00:01:41,395 --> 00:01:45,075 Speaker 1: to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have 19 00:01:45,515 --> 00:01:49,955 Speaker 1: engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given 20 00:01:49,995 --> 00:01:57,075 Speaker 1: aid or comfort to the enemies thereof Unquote, any person 21 00:01:57,395 --> 00:02:01,795 Speaker 1: will make tens of thousands of mistakes with words in 22 00:02:01,875 --> 00:02:06,275 Speaker 1: their lifetime, and Trump more than that. But almost all 23 00:02:06,515 --> 00:02:11,075 Speaker 1: substitution mistakes you mean one word, but you say or 24 00:02:11,155 --> 00:02:17,155 Speaker 1: write another, have one minimum threshold. The person who substitutes 25 00:02:17,195 --> 00:02:19,595 Speaker 1: the one word for the other. The person who writes 26 00:02:20,075 --> 00:02:25,075 Speaker 1: Insurrection Act when he intended to write Espionage Act. That 27 00:02:25,155 --> 00:02:31,755 Speaker 1: person has been thinking about the Insurrection Act. The word 28 00:02:31,955 --> 00:02:36,675 Speaker 1: insurrection did not fall off a shelf and hit Trump 29 00:02:36,715 --> 00:02:39,835 Speaker 1: in his big fat head and he suddenly wrote it 30 00:02:39,835 --> 00:02:44,515 Speaker 1: when he meant to write espionage. If I haven't been 31 00:02:44,595 --> 00:02:47,715 Speaker 1: clear yet, let me state this explicitly. I do not 32 00:02:47,995 --> 00:02:52,035 Speaker 1: have a source in the Special Council's office. I don't 33 00:02:52,075 --> 00:02:55,355 Speaker 1: know the address. I don't have a cousin whose meter 34 00:02:55,515 --> 00:03:00,515 Speaker 1: maid's twin brothers spiritual advisor's uncle's nephew types up the 35 00:03:00,595 --> 00:03:03,915 Speaker 1: daily notes there. Nor have any of the people I 36 00:03:03,995 --> 00:03:06,595 Speaker 1: actually do you know who might have those kinds of 37 00:03:06,635 --> 00:03:11,235 Speaker 1: sources said anything. Nor is there anything anything from any 38 00:03:11,275 --> 00:03:14,635 Speaker 1: of the solid dozen or so reporters covering the coming 39 00:03:14,715 --> 00:03:20,155 Speaker 1: trials of Trump that suggests anything. There's no extrapolation here. 40 00:03:20,395 --> 00:03:22,955 Speaker 1: There's no reading between the lines. There are no lines 41 00:03:22,995 --> 00:03:26,115 Speaker 1: to read. Nobody has said Jack Smith is thinking about 42 00:03:26,155 --> 00:03:32,075 Speaker 1: prosecuting Trump for insurrection. This threat is in terms of 43 00:03:32,155 --> 00:03:35,435 Speaker 1: facts about as thin as it gets. And yet I 44 00:03:35,475 --> 00:03:40,315 Speaker 1: am still sitting here wondering, wondering why he wrote what 45 00:03:40,435 --> 00:03:44,515 Speaker 1: he wrote. And I am absolutely convinced that Trump has 46 00:03:44,555 --> 00:03:50,755 Speaker 1: been thinking about the Insurrection Act for whatever reason. So, 47 00:03:50,835 --> 00:03:53,555 Speaker 1: setting aside the one thing you and I most want 48 00:03:53,675 --> 00:03:57,875 Speaker 1: to be true that even some of Trump's idiot legal advisors, 49 00:03:57,915 --> 00:04:01,195 Speaker 1: including the non lawyer advisors, have told him they may 50 00:04:01,355 --> 00:04:05,955 Speaker 1: charge him with this, what else could it be? Trump 51 00:04:06,075 --> 00:04:08,635 Speaker 1: wrote this and will skip the lies for the moment. 52 00:04:08,675 --> 00:04:11,515 Speaker 1: We're going for a forensic analysis of why he used 53 00:04:11,635 --> 00:04:16,435 Speaker 1: one word amid the lies he wrote? Quote, whatever happened 54 00:04:16,475 --> 00:04:20,315 Speaker 1: to the Biden document's case? Twenty times more documents than 55 00:04:20,355 --> 00:04:23,435 Speaker 1: I have, and I'm allowed under the Presidential Records Act, 56 00:04:23,475 --> 00:04:26,595 Speaker 1: and he's not. What about the classified docs he had 57 00:04:26,635 --> 00:04:30,315 Speaker 1: in Chinatown and on his garage floor in Delaware? Is 58 00:04:30,355 --> 00:04:37,355 Speaker 1: he being charged under the Insurrection Act? What about Penn etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. 59 00:04:38,035 --> 00:04:41,995 Speaker 1: He would delete that post relatively quickly and replace it 60 00:04:42,075 --> 00:04:47,035 Speaker 1: with is he being charged under the Espionage Act? The 61 00:04:47,155 --> 00:04:50,395 Speaker 1: most obvious interpretation of that post is also the most 62 00:04:50,515 --> 00:04:55,915 Speaker 1: clearly mistaken. Whatever Trump was trying to say, whyever he 63 00:04:56,235 --> 00:04:59,515 Speaker 1: was thinking about the Insurrection Act. He was not accusing 64 00:04:59,675 --> 00:05:04,875 Speaker 1: Biden of violating it. Obviously that would make sense, and 65 00:05:05,835 --> 00:05:08,035 Speaker 1: just as obviously, since when has since had anything to 66 00:05:08,075 --> 00:05:11,155 Speaker 1: do with Trump? But more importantly, if he meant Biden 67 00:05:11,235 --> 00:05:14,715 Speaker 1: should be quote charged under the Insurrection Act, why would 68 00:05:14,715 --> 00:05:18,075 Speaker 1: he write that and then delete it and then repost 69 00:05:18,155 --> 00:05:22,315 Speaker 1: it with only one change to make it Espionage Act. No, 70 00:05:23,315 --> 00:05:26,875 Speaker 1: the sentence and paragraph structure is clearly constructed that way 71 00:05:26,955 --> 00:05:31,555 Speaker 1: to say that he Trump has been charged under an 72 00:05:31,635 --> 00:05:35,555 Speaker 1: act but Biden has not, and to imply that Biden 73 00:05:35,595 --> 00:05:39,755 Speaker 1: should have been, and somehow Trump picked the wrong act. 74 00:05:41,595 --> 00:05:44,195 Speaker 1: So we can rule out the already unlikely possibility that 75 00:05:44,275 --> 00:05:46,515 Speaker 1: he wanted to associate Biden and only Biden with the 76 00:05:46,595 --> 00:05:52,315 Speaker 1: Insurrection Act and then thought better of it. When was 77 00:05:52,355 --> 00:05:55,755 Speaker 1: the last time Trump thought better of anything? Nineteen eighty two. 78 00:05:57,435 --> 00:06:01,315 Speaker 1: This is, in the broadest sense, some kind of Freudian mistake, 79 00:06:01,395 --> 00:06:04,675 Speaker 1: And we circle back to my question, why is Trump 80 00:06:04,715 --> 00:06:11,475 Speaker 1: ump thinking about the Insurrection Act and actually has been 81 00:06:11,515 --> 00:06:14,195 Speaker 1: in the news twice in the last week. Miles Taylor 82 00:06:14,315 --> 00:06:17,275 Speaker 1: referenced it last week in an excerpt from his new book, Blowback, 83 00:06:17,995 --> 00:06:21,635 Speaker 1: Taylor claims Trump was ready to declare an insurrection during 84 00:06:21,715 --> 00:06:24,235 Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen State of the Union address and use 85 00:06:24,275 --> 00:06:29,995 Speaker 1: the powers under the Act against migrants. So now we're 86 00:06:30,075 --> 00:06:33,595 Speaker 1: thinking Trump is keeping on top of what Miles Taylor 87 00:06:33,755 --> 00:06:39,395 Speaker 1: has said. I actually went through all Trump Truth social 88 00:06:39,515 --> 00:06:43,355 Speaker 1: media posts since that story came out, No Miles Taylor. 89 00:06:43,475 --> 00:06:48,475 Speaker 1: Surprisingly enough, no reference to the Insurrection Act against the migrants. Now, 90 00:06:48,555 --> 00:06:50,915 Speaker 1: I could have missed something, since Trump's feed is, and 91 00:06:50,995 --> 00:06:54,075 Speaker 1: I mean this literally, one third his posts pleading for 92 00:06:54,235 --> 00:06:58,635 Speaker 1: people to love him, one third promotions for Jim Cavizl movies, 93 00:06:58,795 --> 00:07:02,995 Speaker 1: and one third ads for braziers for seventy year old women. 94 00:07:03,275 --> 00:07:08,915 Speaker 1: I swear to God God, but I don't think I 95 00:07:08,995 --> 00:07:12,635 Speaker 1: missed anything. The other reference in the news to the 96 00:07:12,755 --> 00:07:16,395 Speaker 1: Insurrection Act lately was by the good folks at just Security. 97 00:07:17,075 --> 00:07:21,635 Speaker 1: Last week they published a gargantuan model prosecution memo for 98 00:07:21,795 --> 00:07:25,515 Speaker 1: that part of Jack Smith's case which deals with the insurrection, 99 00:07:26,155 --> 00:07:28,955 Speaker 1: and in it they go into a thorough and surprisingly 100 00:07:29,155 --> 00:07:33,795 Speaker 1: intelligible to US laymen comparison of using the Fourteenth Amendments 101 00:07:33,875 --> 00:07:37,955 Speaker 1: insurrection disqualification clause, which carries no jail time, but does 102 00:07:38,075 --> 00:07:42,235 Speaker 1: keep the malefactor forever out of office. And eighteen Usc. 103 00:07:42,635 --> 00:07:48,195 Speaker 1: Two three eighty three, which prevents inciting an insurrection and 104 00:07:48,355 --> 00:07:52,155 Speaker 1: giving aid or comfort to insurrectionists. And if you want 105 00:07:52,195 --> 00:07:56,115 Speaker 1: a harrowing read on why the disqualification clause is so 106 00:07:56,435 --> 00:07:59,635 Speaker 1: tempting but has the disadvantage of having not really been 107 00:07:59,715 --> 00:08:03,515 Speaker 1: prosecuted federally since the Civil War versus the reasons the 108 00:08:03,635 --> 00:08:06,675 Speaker 1: January sixth House comit he made a criminal referral against Trump, 109 00:08:06,755 --> 00:08:10,155 Speaker 1: hoping to see him charge not for inciting the insurrection, 110 00:08:10,315 --> 00:08:12,475 Speaker 1: but for failing to stop it when he had the 111 00:08:12,595 --> 00:08:17,355 Speaker 1: chance to do so for hours there. It is. The 112 00:08:17,515 --> 00:08:19,955 Speaker 1: other great thing about it is you can be certain 113 00:08:20,035 --> 00:08:24,875 Speaker 1: Trump did not read it, not those paragraphs, not those pages, 114 00:08:25,715 --> 00:08:29,555 Speaker 1: not the entire Just Security model prosecution memo, because in 115 00:08:29,715 --> 00:08:33,275 Speaker 1: the model prosecution memo there isn't one damn photo for 116 00:08:33,395 --> 00:08:35,795 Speaker 1: Trump to stare at, or a face for him to 117 00:08:35,915 --> 00:08:40,315 Speaker 1: draw a mustache on. And guess what. Trump also has 118 00:08:40,395 --> 00:08:43,835 Speaker 1: no idea that Conservative judge Michael Luddig said that not 119 00:08:43,955 --> 00:08:46,755 Speaker 1: only is that model prosecution memo great, but the idea 120 00:08:46,755 --> 00:08:50,515 Speaker 1: of seeking criminal insurrection charges against Trump put you in 121 00:08:50,755 --> 00:08:55,395 Speaker 1: jail charges is both necessary and courageous. Donald Trump doesn't 122 00:08:55,395 --> 00:08:58,995 Speaker 1: know the difference between Michael Luddig and Booth Lustig, the 123 00:08:59,075 --> 00:09:02,075 Speaker 1: field goal kicker of the nineteen sixty six Buffalo Bills. 124 00:09:03,115 --> 00:09:07,435 Speaker 1: So no, Trump, not here, Judge Luddig bring up the 125 00:09:07,555 --> 00:09:12,275 Speaker 1: Insurrection Act. And he didn't read just Security analyzing the 126 00:09:12,355 --> 00:09:16,475 Speaker 1: Criminal Insurrection Act and the Disqualification Insurrection Act. And he 127 00:09:16,555 --> 00:09:19,475 Speaker 1: didn't hear Miles Taylor and the Insurrection Act. And it 128 00:09:19,635 --> 00:09:21,955 Speaker 1: wasn't some random word that popped into his head instead 129 00:09:21,955 --> 00:09:26,075 Speaker 1: of cheeseburger, and the post codjestin easily and innocently appeared 130 00:09:26,075 --> 00:09:31,235 Speaker 1: with the sentence is Biden being charged under the Cheeseburger Act? No? No, no, 131 00:09:31,675 --> 00:09:35,355 Speaker 1: and no, which brings us back to the question with 132 00:09:35,435 --> 00:09:40,675 Speaker 1: which I began. Why did Trump imply he was quote 133 00:09:41,235 --> 00:09:47,595 Speaker 1: being charged under the Insurrection Act? And I have no 134 00:09:47,755 --> 00:09:49,995 Speaker 1: more idea of the answer now than I did when 135 00:09:50,035 --> 00:09:52,195 Speaker 1: I began dancing on the head of this pin. And 136 00:09:52,315 --> 00:09:54,795 Speaker 1: I hate answering a question with another question, But I 137 00:09:54,835 --> 00:09:56,915 Speaker 1: will go back to this spot, and I will stay 138 00:09:56,995 --> 00:10:02,435 Speaker 1: here until we find out did somebody tell Trump that 139 00:10:02,675 --> 00:10:09,275 Speaker 1: Jack Smith might now charge him under either kind of 140 00:10:09,475 --> 00:10:17,715 Speaker 1: insurrection Act? This much about Jack Smith's case, we know 141 00:10:18,035 --> 00:10:21,715 Speaker 1: for certain he has expanded it again. CNN reporting that 142 00:10:21,795 --> 00:10:25,475 Speaker 1: federal prosecutors have interviewed the secretaries of state of Georgia, Michigan, 143 00:10:25,595 --> 00:10:30,555 Speaker 1: New Mexico, Pennsylvania, others other state officials, and the topic 144 00:10:30,835 --> 00:10:35,915 Speaker 1: was the impact of misinformation on election workers and quote 145 00:10:35,955 --> 00:10:40,555 Speaker 1: the threats that emerged from that from various sources. This 146 00:10:40,755 --> 00:10:43,195 Speaker 1: is I think new territory. There have been plenty of 147 00:10:43,275 --> 00:10:46,915 Speaker 1: links between twenty twenty election misinformation and the endangering of 148 00:10:46,915 --> 00:10:50,235 Speaker 1: election workers and state officials. Just think of the Ruby 149 00:10:50,315 --> 00:10:54,595 Speaker 1: Freeman Shay Moss lawsuit against Rudy Giuliani. But Jack Smith 150 00:10:54,675 --> 00:10:59,715 Speaker 1: isn't gathering testimony from victims of electoral intimidation so they 151 00:10:59,795 --> 00:11:04,475 Speaker 1: can tie it to Rudy. They want to tie it 152 00:11:04,515 --> 00:11:09,115 Speaker 1: to the Trump campaign per se, and Trump per se, 153 00:11:10,115 --> 00:11:14,555 Speaker 1: And suddenly that sends us reeling back to a previous possibility, 154 00:11:15,315 --> 00:11:19,595 Speaker 1: Remember the one where I suggested Juliani has flipped or 155 00:11:19,755 --> 00:11:26,395 Speaker 1: will If Juliani has testimony and evidence that somebody Trump 156 00:11:27,315 --> 00:11:30,795 Speaker 1: told him to smear Miss Freeman and Ms Moss or 157 00:11:30,835 --> 00:11:34,435 Speaker 1: to lean on anybody anywhere, it is a whole new 158 00:11:34,555 --> 00:11:39,515 Speaker 1: vein of prosecutorial gold opening up for Jack Smith and 159 00:11:39,715 --> 00:11:42,835 Speaker 1: now we know. Jared Kushner testified to a Jack Smith 160 00:11:42,955 --> 00:11:46,595 Speaker 1: brand grand jury last month. Kushner was one of many 161 00:11:46,675 --> 00:11:50,315 Speaker 1: witnesses asked about how and when Trump acknowledged in the 162 00:11:50,435 --> 00:11:53,915 Speaker 1: days after he lost that he had lost again. This 163 00:11:54,155 --> 00:11:59,155 Speaker 1: mainlines into possible charges against Trump for fleecing his cultists 164 00:11:59,715 --> 00:12:03,235 Speaker 1: getting them to contribute to cure a stolen election Trump 165 00:12:03,355 --> 00:12:07,395 Speaker 1: knew wasn't stolen, which could easily by itself mean forty 166 00:12:07,435 --> 00:12:12,675 Speaker 1: four thousand counts of wire fraud. And besides that, how 167 00:12:12,755 --> 00:12:15,595 Speaker 1: much would you pay to hear a prosecutor say at 168 00:12:15,595 --> 00:12:19,115 Speaker 1: a Trump trial, mister witness, would you please state your 169 00:12:19,195 --> 00:12:21,475 Speaker 1: name for the record, and you hear the guy say, 170 00:12:22,235 --> 00:12:27,595 Speaker 1: Jared Corey Kushner. We already know. Alissa Farrall already gave 171 00:12:27,675 --> 00:12:30,675 Speaker 1: Trump up. She says. She told the grand jury the 172 00:12:30,715 --> 00:12:33,515 Speaker 1: same thing she told the January sixth Committee that days 173 00:12:33,555 --> 00:12:36,675 Speaker 1: after the election, Trump asked her rhetorically, can you believe 174 00:12:36,715 --> 00:12:40,915 Speaker 1: I lost to Joe Biden? Yes, we can all believe 175 00:12:40,955 --> 00:12:46,715 Speaker 1: it because it happened. Can we move on now? And 176 00:12:46,835 --> 00:12:51,635 Speaker 1: there is one more substantive development, ABC says, somebody's lying 177 00:12:52,035 --> 00:12:54,915 Speaker 1: and moreover, Jacksmith's office has written to tell them they 178 00:12:55,035 --> 00:12:58,715 Speaker 1: know they're lying. Somebody in the Trump organization, somebody who 179 00:12:58,755 --> 00:13:01,835 Speaker 1: testified in May, according to ABC, and last week that 180 00:13:02,035 --> 00:13:04,555 Speaker 1: somebody got a target letter saying there seems to have 181 00:13:04,795 --> 00:13:08,715 Speaker 1: been some light perjury committed and there may be charges 182 00:13:08,755 --> 00:13:11,915 Speaker 1: of trying to obstruct the probe. ABC knew who it 183 00:13:12,195 --> 00:13:14,715 Speaker 1: was and knew that the lying seems to have been 184 00:13:14,755 --> 00:13:18,555 Speaker 1: about the handling of the Mari Lago security video. ABC 185 00:13:18,795 --> 00:13:21,155 Speaker 1: reached the person in question, and the only answer from 186 00:13:21,155 --> 00:13:24,675 Speaker 1: them was, quote, it's none of your business, and they 187 00:13:24,795 --> 00:13:27,795 Speaker 1: know whoever it is is represented by the attorney Stanley Woodward. 188 00:13:27,835 --> 00:13:29,515 Speaker 1: And that really does not help as much as it 189 00:13:29,595 --> 00:13:34,395 Speaker 1: might seem, because Stanley Woodward represents or has represented Cash Bettel, 190 00:13:34,795 --> 00:13:39,035 Speaker 1: Dan Scavino, Peter Nevadroo, Walt Nauda, and lots of others, 191 00:13:39,155 --> 00:13:41,915 Speaker 1: And it's not Walt Nauda. Because whoever it is, they 192 00:13:42,075 --> 00:13:44,315 Speaker 1: still want this guy to testify about what he said 193 00:13:44,355 --> 00:13:50,355 Speaker 1: to Walt Nauda. And no, we don't know when we 194 00:13:50,475 --> 00:13:54,155 Speaker 1: will hear from the glorified game show judge MS Cannon, 195 00:13:54,555 --> 00:13:57,235 Speaker 1: who is currently more important than any other figure in 196 00:13:57,275 --> 00:14:01,595 Speaker 1: the American judiciary. Smith answered the trump pitch to delay 197 00:14:01,675 --> 00:14:05,195 Speaker 1: the Florida document's case until I don't know the year 198 00:14:05,355 --> 00:14:09,755 Speaker 1: eleveny billion. Smith answered by saying the mid December start 199 00:14:09,875 --> 00:14:12,995 Speaker 1: he hopes for is entirely fitting that there is nowhere 200 00:14:13,115 --> 00:14:16,315 Speaker 1: near the amount of evidence Trump's attorneys have portrayed. The 201 00:14:16,515 --> 00:14:20,715 Speaker 1: gist of the no nonsense response from Smith was if 202 00:14:20,875 --> 00:14:24,595 Speaker 1: they are real lawyers and judge, if you are a 203 00:14:24,715 --> 00:14:28,475 Speaker 1: real judge, you can get this done in half the 204 00:14:28,635 --> 00:14:36,675 Speaker 1: time we are giving you. I don't want to leave 205 00:14:36,875 --> 00:14:38,875 Speaker 1: an impression here. I do not want to leave the 206 00:14:38,915 --> 00:14:42,395 Speaker 1: impression that the madness of Robert F. Kennedy Junior does 207 00:14:42,435 --> 00:14:47,315 Speaker 1: not matter to me. It is, in fact, actually personally painful. 208 00:14:47,755 --> 00:14:51,395 Speaker 1: I was an admirer of his environmental work, which literally 209 00:14:51,955 --> 00:14:55,395 Speaker 1: cleaned up the river along which I was raised and 210 00:14:55,515 --> 00:15:00,435 Speaker 1: which used to be a cesspool. I met Bobby twenty 211 00:15:00,515 --> 00:15:03,755 Speaker 1: years ago when he shared my doubts about why an 212 00:15:03,795 --> 00:15:08,835 Speaker 1: Ohio he needed to expel the media and the vote checkers, 213 00:15:09,155 --> 00:15:12,955 Speaker 1: the bipartisan vote checkers during the two thousand and four 214 00:15:13,075 --> 00:15:18,595 Speaker 1: presidential ballot county count because of what that county called terrorism. 215 00:15:20,515 --> 00:15:27,635 Speaker 1: But this, this disgusting statement that COVID nineteen was or 216 00:15:27,715 --> 00:15:32,835 Speaker 1: even might have been targeted to attack Caucasians and black people, 217 00:15:32,955 --> 00:15:37,275 Speaker 1: but there are genetic structural differences that leave the Chinese 218 00:15:37,395 --> 00:15:45,395 Speaker 1: and the Ashkenazi Jews safer is absolute disqualifying bullshit. And 219 00:15:45,555 --> 00:15:49,995 Speaker 1: then to blame the media when he's heard saying it 220 00:15:50,155 --> 00:15:55,195 Speaker 1: on tape, no media required that, in some respects is 221 00:15:56,075 --> 00:16:01,995 Speaker 1: far more disturbing because it's absolute madness. The issue of 222 00:16:02,075 --> 00:16:04,515 Speaker 1: Robert F. Kennedy Junior is no longer a political or 223 00:16:04,755 --> 00:16:07,195 Speaker 1: moral or racist one. It is whether or not there 224 00:16:07,275 --> 00:16:10,315 Speaker 1: is anybody who cares enough about him to get him 225 00:16:10,355 --> 00:16:16,515 Speaker 1: the inpatient mental health care he needs. Also of interest 226 00:16:16,595 --> 00:16:20,275 Speaker 1: here to us, speaking of kind of the same topic, 227 00:16:20,715 --> 00:16:25,075 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson, Oh nothing. He just attacked six different Republicans 228 00:16:25,075 --> 00:16:27,995 Speaker 1: seeking the presidential nomination, and I'm not going to pretend 229 00:16:28,075 --> 00:16:30,235 Speaker 1: I give a damn about them, even if those attacks 230 00:16:30,275 --> 00:16:34,155 Speaker 1: didn't take place right in person at an event in Iowa. 231 00:16:34,395 --> 00:16:38,675 Speaker 1: But for literally years, I have looked at Tucker Carlson's failure, 232 00:16:39,155 --> 00:16:43,435 Speaker 1: his assent, his new failure, and I have thought this 233 00:16:43,755 --> 00:16:46,395 Speaker 1: reminds me of the career arc of somebody in the 234 00:16:46,595 --> 00:16:51,395 Speaker 1: vast annals of American news commentary, which I have studied 235 00:16:51,515 --> 00:16:56,115 Speaker 1: in addition to participating in Somebody I've read about, Somebody 236 00:16:56,115 --> 00:16:59,595 Speaker 1: I've read about and been astonished by their story. And 237 00:16:59,875 --> 00:17:04,995 Speaker 1: after this debacle in Iowa on Friday, I finally figured 238 00:17:05,035 --> 00:17:09,435 Speaker 1: out who Tucker Carlson is. The name will mean nothing 239 00:17:09,555 --> 00:17:12,355 Speaker 1: to you, so holding it back provides me with no 240 00:17:12,675 --> 00:17:16,555 Speaker 1: teas here. I'll go into depth in this in a moment. 241 00:17:17,315 --> 00:17:23,755 Speaker 1: But Tucker Carlson is Boke Carter, and one fine morning, 242 00:17:25,795 --> 00:17:31,675 Speaker 1: many years ago, Boke Carter was the number one news 243 00:17:31,875 --> 00:17:39,115 Speaker 1: commentator in America. And then on that fine morning things 244 00:17:39,195 --> 00:17:43,155 Speaker 1: happened so that at seven o'clock that night, Boke Carter's 245 00:17:43,195 --> 00:17:49,795 Speaker 1: career was over. That's next. This is countdown. This is 246 00:17:49,915 --> 00:18:01,515 Speaker 1: countdown with Keith Oboman quot scripts to the news, some headlines, 247 00:18:01,555 --> 00:18:05,155 Speaker 1: some updates, some snarks, some predictions, dateline des moine in Iowa. 248 00:18:05,235 --> 00:18:08,635 Speaker 1: The good news for Tucker Carlson is his delusions of 249 00:18:08,755 --> 00:18:13,035 Speaker 1: grandeur took the weekend off, at least publicly. Carlson did 250 00:18:13,115 --> 00:18:16,835 Speaker 1: not insult any more Republican presidential candidates for the nomination 251 00:18:17,035 --> 00:18:21,355 Speaker 1: while interviewing them at a Republican forum of Republican Religious nuts. 252 00:18:21,755 --> 00:18:24,635 Speaker 1: He did not, somehow again make Chris Christy and Mike 253 00:18:24,715 --> 00:18:28,915 Speaker 1: Pence look sympathetic. He did not somehow again accuse Ukraine 254 00:18:29,155 --> 00:18:33,555 Speaker 1: of attacking Catholicism because Ukraine had restricted the activities of 255 00:18:33,635 --> 00:18:37,835 Speaker 1: the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine. With the Russian Orthodox 256 00:18:37,955 --> 00:18:40,795 Speaker 1: Church now being run by Vladimir Putin, He did not 257 00:18:40,955 --> 00:18:43,915 Speaker 1: once more boast of not taking the COVID vaccine, nor 258 00:18:43,995 --> 00:18:47,035 Speaker 1: claim that countless people were quote injured by that vaccine, 259 00:18:47,355 --> 00:18:49,835 Speaker 1: even though the only injuries in this equation have been 260 00:18:49,915 --> 00:18:53,035 Speaker 1: to Tucker Carlson's brain, and he did not post any 261 00:18:53,155 --> 00:18:56,955 Speaker 1: more interviews with psychos who are charged in Romania with 262 00:18:57,155 --> 00:19:01,675 Speaker 1: sex trafficking. The bad news for Tucker Carlson is, I 263 00:19:01,795 --> 00:19:05,155 Speaker 1: have finally realized, after months of being unable to put 264 00:19:05,195 --> 00:19:10,035 Speaker 1: my finger on this, exactly whose career path Tucker Carlson 265 00:19:10,115 --> 00:19:16,315 Speaker 1: has now followed. The answer is Boke Carter. You don't 266 00:19:16,395 --> 00:19:19,995 Speaker 1: know who Boke Carter is. Tucker Carlson does not know 267 00:19:20,075 --> 00:19:23,475 Speaker 1: who Boke Carter is. And despite what you will hear 268 00:19:23,875 --> 00:19:27,755 Speaker 1: happened to Boke Carter, it is kind of amazing that 269 00:19:27,875 --> 00:19:32,475 Speaker 1: he has been in essence completely erased from human history. 270 00:19:33,035 --> 00:19:36,075 Speaker 1: Because as of Friday August twenty sixth, nineteen thirty eight, 271 00:19:36,275 --> 00:19:42,475 Speaker 1: Harold Thomas Henry Boch Carter was the most popular news 272 00:19:42,595 --> 00:19:46,595 Speaker 1: commentator in this country and had, depending on the week, 273 00:19:46,995 --> 00:19:51,035 Speaker 1: either the second highest rated news broadcast of any kind 274 00:19:51,555 --> 00:19:55,875 Speaker 1: or the highest rated news broadcast of any kind, and 275 00:19:56,675 --> 00:19:59,115 Speaker 1: at the same time he wrote the second most widely 276 00:19:59,235 --> 00:20:04,395 Speaker 1: read newspaper column in this country. The British Raised bolk 277 00:20:04,515 --> 00:20:07,715 Speaker 1: Ca signed off his nightly fifteen minute news commentary on 278 00:20:07,795 --> 00:20:11,115 Speaker 1: the CBS Radio network at seven pm Eastern Time on 279 00:20:11,315 --> 00:20:14,875 Speaker 1: August twenty sixth, nineteen thirty eight, with his trademark Cheerier. 280 00:20:15,755 --> 00:20:18,715 Speaker 1: The network switched to a summertime replacement show called The 281 00:20:18,835 --> 00:20:23,715 Speaker 1: Ghost of Benjamin's Sweet and then, speaking of ghosts, bok 282 00:20:23,835 --> 00:20:29,155 Speaker 1: Carter was basically never heard from again. Carter's instantaneous fame 283 00:20:29,275 --> 00:20:32,035 Speaker 1: was built on criticism of President Roosevelt and the New 284 00:20:32,155 --> 00:20:35,395 Speaker 1: Deal and the left. He dismissed the Nazis as any 285 00:20:35,475 --> 00:20:38,795 Speaker 1: threats to America. He opposed unions in this country. He 286 00:20:38,915 --> 00:20:45,515 Speaker 1: took absolute positions, and he joined America first. Hello everyone, 287 00:20:46,035 --> 00:20:49,675 Speaker 1: lot he let's wake up mconity is too late and 288 00:20:49,795 --> 00:20:54,915 Speaker 1: defend America first before trying to defend someone else. Let's 289 00:20:54,995 --> 00:20:59,595 Speaker 1: first be able to defend our service. Hi, thank you, Bok. 290 00:20:59,755 --> 00:21:04,555 Speaker 1: Carter was a conservative radio commentator just as in our 291 00:21:04,675 --> 00:21:08,995 Speaker 1: our own time. Nothing that unusual, And then something very 292 00:21:09,235 --> 00:21:15,795 Speaker 1: unusual happened. Senate Majority Leader Joe Robinson of Arkansas had 293 00:21:15,835 --> 00:21:18,475 Speaker 1: a heart attack and died, and both Carter went on 294 00:21:18,595 --> 00:21:22,435 Speaker 1: the CBS radio network and said, not implied, but said 295 00:21:23,075 --> 00:21:26,835 Speaker 1: that President Roosevelt had caused the heart attack and thus 296 00:21:27,075 --> 00:21:32,355 Speaker 1: caused Senator Robinson's death. When the recipient of some of 297 00:21:32,435 --> 00:21:37,035 Speaker 1: his other criticisms questioned Carter's immigration status, Carter sent an 298 00:21:37,075 --> 00:21:41,475 Speaker 1: official unemployment report card to the White House, addressed to 299 00:21:41,555 --> 00:21:45,835 Speaker 1: the President and wrote on it, beware libel me at 300 00:21:45,955 --> 00:21:50,115 Speaker 1: your peril. Carter spoke at a public forum and insisted 301 00:21:50,115 --> 00:21:54,355 Speaker 1: America should never go to war, even against fascists. By 302 00:21:54,435 --> 00:21:56,835 Speaker 1: April of nineteen thirty eight, he was telling his listeners 303 00:21:56,875 --> 00:22:01,755 Speaker 1: of a plot by Democrats and the White House to 304 00:22:01,995 --> 00:22:10,235 Speaker 1: silence news commentators and conservatives. Any of this sound familiar, 305 00:22:11,315 --> 00:22:13,475 Speaker 1: I would expect much of it would sound familiar to 306 00:22:13,635 --> 00:22:18,395 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson Bolch. Carter was off radio for eight months, 307 00:22:18,435 --> 00:22:20,795 Speaker 1: then he started a series of three commentaries a week 308 00:22:20,875 --> 00:22:23,755 Speaker 1: on a lesser network. By nineteen forty one, he was 309 00:22:23,995 --> 00:22:27,515 Speaker 1: on only sporadically in the afternoons, two days a week. 310 00:22:28,035 --> 00:22:30,875 Speaker 1: By nineteen forty two, he had two shows a week 311 00:22:30,955 --> 00:22:34,835 Speaker 1: on a regional network and had reinvented himself as a 312 00:22:34,995 --> 00:22:39,835 Speaker 1: liberal commentator who publicly advocated for President Roosevelt and who 313 00:22:39,915 --> 00:22:44,475 Speaker 1: addressed Roosevelt on the air as quote dear Boss. By 314 00:22:44,555 --> 00:22:47,635 Speaker 1: nineteen forty three, Carter and his final wife had joined 315 00:22:47,675 --> 00:22:50,835 Speaker 1: a religious cult. He had legally changed his name to 316 00:22:50,995 --> 00:22:55,155 Speaker 1: Ephraim Bok Carter. His radio stardom, which had begun just 317 00:22:55,275 --> 00:22:58,315 Speaker 1: eight years earlier, his radio career, which had begun just 318 00:22:58,435 --> 00:23:01,915 Speaker 1: five years before that when a Philadelphia station needed someone 319 00:23:02,035 --> 00:23:06,315 Speaker 1: to narrate live coverage of a rugby match, was over. 320 00:23:07,435 --> 00:23:10,915 Speaker 1: Three years after that rugby match, the station sent Bolk 321 00:23:10,995 --> 00:23:13,955 Speaker 1: Carter to cover the Lindberg kidnapping trial in New Jersey, 322 00:23:14,035 --> 00:23:19,315 Speaker 1: and overnight, CBS gave him a network national slot, sponsored 323 00:23:19,355 --> 00:23:23,795 Speaker 1: first by Philco Radios, then by General Foods. He ranked 324 00:23:23,835 --> 00:23:26,875 Speaker 1: first in the ratings in nineteen thirty six, nineteen thirty seven, 325 00:23:27,115 --> 00:23:30,955 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty eight. He appeared originally on twenty three CBS stations, 326 00:23:30,995 --> 00:23:34,475 Speaker 1: then on sixty, then on eighty five, and then on none. 327 00:23:35,835 --> 00:23:38,835 Speaker 1: In nineteen forty four, Bolk Carter died of a heart 328 00:23:38,875 --> 00:23:42,675 Speaker 1: attack in Hollywood. He had just turned forty one years old. 329 00:23:44,235 --> 00:23:46,835 Speaker 1: As near as I can tell through a search of 330 00:23:47,115 --> 00:23:51,595 Speaker 1: Internet and old newspaper archives, the number of newspaper stories 331 00:23:51,635 --> 00:23:56,115 Speaker 1: that merely mentioned Bolk Carter in passing in this country 332 00:23:56,835 --> 00:24:18,115 Speaker 1: in this century now totals twenty two. Still ahead on 333 00:24:18,195 --> 00:24:21,435 Speaker 1: countdown sports and Things. I promise not to tell Merge, 334 00:24:22,235 --> 00:24:24,915 Speaker 1: the veteran manager of the New York Mets Buck Showalter, 335 00:24:25,115 --> 00:24:28,435 Speaker 1: may have, as they say, lost the room. I will 336 00:24:28,515 --> 00:24:30,435 Speaker 1: tell you of the day when he owned the rooms 337 00:24:30,515 --> 00:24:33,435 Speaker 1: so thoroughly that he could order all of his New 338 00:24:33,515 --> 00:24:36,115 Speaker 1: York Yankee players out of that room and tell them 339 00:24:36,155 --> 00:24:39,635 Speaker 1: to go and hide, supposedly because they didn't want to 340 00:24:39,675 --> 00:24:42,115 Speaker 1: talk to me. First time for the daily round up 341 00:24:42,155 --> 00:24:44,435 Speaker 1: with the mis grants, morons and Dunning Kruger effects specimens 342 00:24:44,435 --> 00:24:49,195 Speaker 1: who constitute today's worst persons in the world West Peasants 343 00:24:49,235 --> 00:24:54,275 Speaker 1: in the World Focus speaking the Bronze Christina Caramo, the 344 00:24:54,515 --> 00:24:57,875 Speaker 1: woman who believes that demonic possession can be transmitted sexually 345 00:24:58,715 --> 00:25:04,955 Speaker 1: and again, as an aside, how would she know that else? 346 00:25:04,955 --> 00:25:09,115 Speaker 1: She's got bigger fish to fry right now is Carmel 347 00:25:09,195 --> 00:25:12,075 Speaker 1: got elected chairwoman of the Michigan State Republican Party and 348 00:25:12,155 --> 00:25:15,435 Speaker 1: as rumored, it is about to go under financially. A 349 00:25:15,555 --> 00:25:18,235 Speaker 1: tape of a July eighth internal meeting of the state 350 00:25:18,315 --> 00:25:20,755 Speaker 1: party has been obtained by the Detroit News, and on it, 351 00:25:21,195 --> 00:25:25,435 Speaker 1: the party's General Council confirms that the Michigan GOP has 352 00:25:25,475 --> 00:25:29,155 Speaker 1: been quote threatened with default on a loan and the 353 00:25:29,275 --> 00:25:33,675 Speaker 1: party is a little short of funds. Republican lawmakers say 354 00:25:33,715 --> 00:25:36,835 Speaker 1: the Michigan GOP needs between thirty and forty million dollars 355 00:25:36,875 --> 00:25:41,235 Speaker 1: per election cycle to compete sixteen months before the next election. 356 00:25:42,075 --> 00:25:45,555 Speaker 1: The Michigan Republican Party's budget director has heard on that tape, 357 00:25:45,595 --> 00:25:49,715 Speaker 1: saying they have ninety three, two hundred and thirty one 358 00:25:49,835 --> 00:25:54,795 Speaker 1: dollars and ninety cents. Ninety hundred and thirty one dollars 359 00:25:54,835 --> 00:26:00,515 Speaker 1: and ninety cents. The runner up him again, New York 360 00:26:00,555 --> 00:26:04,595 Speaker 1: City Mayor Eric Adams. He didn't end his career enough 361 00:26:04,835 --> 00:26:07,155 Speaker 1: when he attacked in public an eighty four year old 362 00:26:07,275 --> 00:26:11,955 Speaker 1: tenant advocate who escaped the Holocaust. He compared her to 363 00:26:12,035 --> 00:26:14,395 Speaker 1: a plantation owner. While he's decided to go back in 364 00:26:15,115 --> 00:26:18,235 Speaker 1: on her at a Brooklyn church. Even though his victim 365 00:26:18,275 --> 00:26:21,635 Speaker 1: had moved on, Adams did not. Adams now says he 366 00:26:22,115 --> 00:26:24,875 Speaker 1: heard his dead mother explaining to him not to let 367 00:26:25,075 --> 00:26:28,995 Speaker 1: someone disrespect you, which means he's going to have to 368 00:26:29,035 --> 00:26:31,115 Speaker 1: have arguments with several million of us here in New 369 00:26:31,195 --> 00:26:34,115 Speaker 1: York who don't respect him. Happily, Mayor Adams has enough 370 00:26:34,155 --> 00:26:38,235 Speaker 1: ego and delusion to fill in that respect gap. Adams 371 00:26:38,475 --> 00:26:42,515 Speaker 1: says in a tape of the speech at the church, quote, 372 00:26:42,595 --> 00:26:46,115 Speaker 1: I'm the symbol of black manhood in this city, in 373 00:26:46,275 --> 00:26:49,235 Speaker 1: this country and what it represents. I am the mayor 374 00:26:49,315 --> 00:26:52,075 Speaker 1: of the most powerful city on the globe and people 375 00:26:52,235 --> 00:26:56,355 Speaker 1: need to recognize that. Mayor, how did that work out 376 00:26:56,395 --> 00:27:00,875 Speaker 1: for mister Giuliani to shut up and do the job 377 00:27:00,955 --> 00:27:04,355 Speaker 1: and earn the respect. But the winner, Steve Bannon once 378 00:27:04,355 --> 00:27:08,195 Speaker 1: again international fascist slob of the Year, winner of the 379 00:27:08,275 --> 00:27:13,395 Speaker 1: annual balloonne d'hor This is not a major thing that 380 00:27:13,555 --> 00:27:15,755 Speaker 1: he does, like, you know, trying to install a dictator 381 00:27:15,995 --> 00:27:18,715 Speaker 1: or trying to fix an election, or going on trial 382 00:27:18,835 --> 00:27:21,675 Speaker 1: for fraud. This is just a threat he made on 383 00:27:21,795 --> 00:27:25,875 Speaker 1: his streaming show against speaker Kevin McCarthy quote, I got 384 00:27:25,995 --> 00:27:30,195 Speaker 1: news for McCarthy and this audience has news over our 385 00:27:30,475 --> 00:27:34,555 Speaker 1: dead bodies? Will you do anything to Matt Gates? Unquote 386 00:27:36,355 --> 00:27:42,675 Speaker 1: Steve Deal, Steve, how would you tell if that was 387 00:27:42,755 --> 00:27:43,995 Speaker 1: a dead body? Bannon? 388 00:27:44,115 --> 00:28:08,955 Speaker 2: Today's worst far set. This is Sports Center. Wait, check 389 00:28:09,035 --> 00:28:16,795 Speaker 2: that not anymore. This is Countdown with Keith Alberman. 390 00:28:16,555 --> 00:28:19,675 Speaker 1: In Sports Stop me if you've heard this before, but 391 00:28:19,795 --> 00:28:22,755 Speaker 1: the world's greatest soccer player has signed to play here 392 00:28:22,795 --> 00:28:26,875 Speaker 1: in the US of A. He's wait, they didn't. They 393 00:28:26,955 --> 00:28:28,915 Speaker 1: didn't fill in the blank on the piece of paper 394 00:28:28,995 --> 00:28:29,795 Speaker 1: this time. Who is it? 395 00:28:31,075 --> 00:28:31,275 Speaker 2: Oh? 396 00:28:31,755 --> 00:28:36,715 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, here it is the world's greatest soccer player 397 00:28:36,795 --> 00:28:38,515 Speaker 1: has signed to play here in the US of A. 398 00:28:38,795 --> 00:28:42,715 Speaker 1: He's Lionel Messi. He's just turned thirty six, he just 399 00:28:42,955 --> 00:28:45,235 Speaker 1: washed out of his last European team in Paris, and 400 00:28:45,275 --> 00:28:46,995 Speaker 1: a lot of his teammates were not sad to see 401 00:28:47,075 --> 00:28:50,075 Speaker 1: him go. And the Miami team in Major League Soccer, 402 00:28:50,115 --> 00:28:52,955 Speaker 1: which is owned by David Beckham, which is in twenty 403 00:28:53,035 --> 00:28:57,715 Speaker 1: ninth place out of twenty nine teams, just gave Messi 404 00:28:57,835 --> 00:29:00,395 Speaker 1: somewhere between fifty and sixty million a year to play 405 00:29:00,475 --> 00:29:04,595 Speaker 1: in Miami through the twenty twenty five season. American soccer fan. 406 00:29:05,515 --> 00:29:07,635 Speaker 1: We'll call them football fans. We don't need to piss 407 00:29:07,675 --> 00:29:10,835 Speaker 1: them off more than usual. We'll never admit this, but 408 00:29:10,955 --> 00:29:14,115 Speaker 1: this country has been importing the declining stars of other 409 00:29:14,235 --> 00:29:18,355 Speaker 1: nations since literally the first day somebody tried to put 410 00:29:18,395 --> 00:29:20,915 Speaker 1: together a true professional league in this country, which was 411 00:29:20,995 --> 00:29:24,795 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty seven. Literally all the teams in the 412 00:29:24,835 --> 00:29:29,395 Speaker 1: original nineteen sixty seven United Soccer Association were just international 413 00:29:29,515 --> 00:29:33,675 Speaker 1: teams on summer break, claiming to be from American cities. 414 00:29:34,155 --> 00:29:38,355 Speaker 1: The Cleveland Stokers they were actually Stoke City from England 415 00:29:38,355 --> 00:29:41,955 Speaker 1: with star goalie Gordon Banks. The Houston Stars. They were 416 00:29:42,155 --> 00:29:50,115 Speaker 1: Banngu of Brazil, Chicago Mustangs, Kalliari of Sardinia. George Best 417 00:29:50,315 --> 00:29:53,675 Speaker 1: came to the United States, Bobby Moore, Usebio, then the 418 00:29:53,755 --> 00:29:57,555 Speaker 1: Big Fish Pele, then Franz Beckenbauer and Kanalia and crou 419 00:29:57,675 --> 00:30:01,395 Speaker 1: Beniskins and more recently Tierry Henry and then Wayne Rooney 420 00:30:01,475 --> 00:30:05,795 Speaker 1: and Frank Lampard and Ibrahimovich and Beckham's and their net 421 00:30:05,875 --> 00:30:10,475 Speaker 1: effect on pro soccer in this country. It is America's 422 00:30:10,595 --> 00:30:14,515 Speaker 1: sport of the future. It always has been and it 423 00:30:14,795 --> 00:30:18,875 Speaker 1: always will be. I mean, what did Beckham do for 424 00:30:18,995 --> 00:30:22,715 Speaker 1: Major League Soccer. He became just what America did not 425 00:30:22,875 --> 00:30:27,795 Speaker 1: have enough of a sports team. Owner Messi makes his 426 00:30:27,915 --> 00:30:32,075 Speaker 1: Miami debut Friday against the Mexican club cruz Azul. It's 427 00:30:32,155 --> 00:30:36,115 Speaker 1: probably for a championship cup. Every other game in international 428 00:30:36,235 --> 00:30:40,475 Speaker 1: soccer is for a championship cup of some sort. The failing, 429 00:30:40,555 --> 00:30:43,515 Speaker 1: of course, is that of all the internationals Americans brought 430 00:30:43,555 --> 00:30:46,275 Speaker 1: here in this endless belief that yesterday's starts from other 431 00:30:46,395 --> 00:30:50,195 Speaker 1: lands will build a future in this one, they did 432 00:30:50,275 --> 00:30:53,035 Speaker 1: not bring the one man who could have actually sold 433 00:30:53,075 --> 00:30:57,755 Speaker 1: it to the United States, the fabled Italian goalie John 434 00:30:57,915 --> 00:31:04,355 Speaker 1: Luca Paliuca. One other sports note my baseball spidey sense 435 00:31:04,395 --> 00:31:07,235 Speaker 1: here tingling, and I think New York may shortly be 436 00:31:07,355 --> 00:31:10,635 Speaker 1: the scene of baseball carnage, one of those things where 437 00:31:10,675 --> 00:31:14,795 Speaker 1: a team fires its hitting coach, and fires its manager, 438 00:31:14,915 --> 00:31:18,635 Speaker 1: and fires its general manager and trades literally every player 439 00:31:18,715 --> 00:31:21,075 Speaker 1: it can get rid of at the trade deadline in 440 00:31:21,195 --> 00:31:25,275 Speaker 1: two weeks. The New York Mets they vanished without a 441 00:31:25,395 --> 00:31:28,715 Speaker 1: trace about June. First, they have two star pitchers who 442 00:31:28,755 --> 00:31:32,035 Speaker 1: are not pitching much starlike. They are to be paid 443 00:31:32,115 --> 00:31:34,395 Speaker 1: eighty seven million between the two of them this year 444 00:31:34,515 --> 00:31:37,075 Speaker 1: they have no trade clauses, and they are combined seventy 445 00:31:37,115 --> 00:31:40,835 Speaker 1: eight years old. They make messy look like a spring chicken. 446 00:31:41,515 --> 00:31:45,475 Speaker 1: The only thing messy about the Mets is the roster construction. 447 00:31:46,195 --> 00:31:48,315 Speaker 1: If I'm right, this would be the end of one 448 00:31:48,355 --> 00:31:51,475 Speaker 1: of my favorite people in baseball, manager Buck Showalter of 449 00:31:51,515 --> 00:31:54,035 Speaker 1: the Mets. I hope I am wrong, but I kind 450 00:31:54,075 --> 00:31:57,875 Speaker 1: of feel like I should tell you the Buck Showalters 451 00:31:57,955 --> 00:32:05,995 Speaker 1: story now rather than wait. Anty's our number one story 452 00:32:06,075 --> 00:32:08,795 Speaker 1: on the COUNTWN and my favorite topic, me and things 453 00:32:08,875 --> 00:32:12,395 Speaker 1: I promised not to tell. The New York Yankees were 454 00:32:12,475 --> 00:32:15,115 Speaker 1: in their first Pennant race in five years. They had 455 00:32:15,195 --> 00:32:17,715 Speaker 1: reeled off eight wins in ten games to reach a 456 00:32:17,835 --> 00:32:21,595 Speaker 1: first place tie with the defending world champion Toronto Blue Jays. 457 00:32:22,315 --> 00:32:25,275 Speaker 1: It was Sunday, August twenty second, nineteen ninety three, and 458 00:32:25,355 --> 00:32:29,955 Speaker 1: I was at Yankee Stadium just cuz we were about 459 00:32:29,955 --> 00:32:32,155 Speaker 1: to start a month of intensive preparations for the launch 460 00:32:32,195 --> 00:32:35,915 Speaker 1: of the ill fated ESPN. Two. Good evening and welcome 461 00:32:35,915 --> 00:32:37,955 Speaker 1: to the end of our careers that one. And this 462 00:32:38,195 --> 00:32:40,115 Speaker 1: was probably going to be my last chance to go 463 00:32:40,155 --> 00:32:42,955 Speaker 1: to the city, visit my folks, see a ballgame. Whatever, 464 00:32:43,835 --> 00:32:47,955 Speaker 1: till further notice. And here was my childhood team, the Yankees, 465 00:32:47,995 --> 00:32:51,195 Speaker 1: with a lineup that now included friends of mine like 466 00:32:51,315 --> 00:32:55,515 Speaker 1: Danny Tartible and Mike Diego and Don Mattingly against the Royals, 467 00:32:55,555 --> 00:32:58,235 Speaker 1: for whom my friends Wiley Joiner and David Cohne played, 468 00:32:58,795 --> 00:33:00,995 Speaker 1: and a seat awaiting me in the press box on 469 00:33:01,075 --> 00:33:04,955 Speaker 1: a beautiful late summer Sunday afternoon with just the earlyest 470 00:33:05,035 --> 00:33:08,275 Speaker 1: hint to fall in the air and Bobby Darren singing 471 00:33:08,395 --> 00:33:14,395 Speaker 1: on the PA system, and the Yankees got crushed. Kansas 472 00:33:14,435 --> 00:33:17,995 Speaker 1: City started a pitcher named Chris Haney, who was much 473 00:33:18,155 --> 00:33:21,395 Speaker 1: less successful than his mediocre five point four to seven 474 00:33:21,515 --> 00:33:25,475 Speaker 1: era implied he would somehow last for eleven seasons and 475 00:33:25,595 --> 00:33:29,395 Speaker 1: become statistically one of the worst pitchers of a generation. 476 00:33:30,195 --> 00:33:33,155 Speaker 1: And that day, the Yankees got at least one base 477 00:33:33,235 --> 00:33:36,435 Speaker 1: runner on in eight of the nine innings against Chris Haney, 478 00:33:36,555 --> 00:33:40,355 Speaker 1: and he still shut them out seven to nothing. And 479 00:33:40,475 --> 00:33:43,595 Speaker 1: you could sense right then that whatever it was that 480 00:33:43,715 --> 00:33:46,875 Speaker 1: a team needed to have to hold its own down 481 00:33:46,955 --> 00:33:50,715 Speaker 1: the stretch, the nineteen ninety three New York Yankees did 482 00:33:50,875 --> 00:33:54,635 Speaker 1: not have it. Still, it was fun to visit with 483 00:33:54,755 --> 00:33:57,315 Speaker 1: reporter friends, some of whom I'd known since i'd broken 484 00:33:57,355 --> 00:34:00,875 Speaker 1: in fourteen years earlier, and some I hadn't seen since then. 485 00:34:01,675 --> 00:34:04,395 Speaker 1: The only oddity was that at some point during the game, 486 00:34:04,795 --> 00:34:07,835 Speaker 1: the kids from the Yankees media relations department came over 487 00:34:08,195 --> 00:34:11,515 Speaker 1: and asked me for my ID, and when I showed 488 00:34:11,595 --> 00:34:13,715 Speaker 1: him my ID, he asked me if I was planning 489 00:34:13,755 --> 00:34:17,275 Speaker 1: to go into the Yankee Clubhouse afterwards. I said, funny 490 00:34:17,315 --> 00:34:20,275 Speaker 1: you should ask that I am headed downtown for dinner. 491 00:34:20,635 --> 00:34:23,155 Speaker 1: But I missed my friend Danny Tartable before the game 492 00:34:23,235 --> 00:34:25,075 Speaker 1: for some reason, and I just want to pop in 493 00:34:25,155 --> 00:34:27,355 Speaker 1: and say hello. And the kids said thanks, sorry to 494 00:34:27,435 --> 00:34:31,115 Speaker 1: trouble you, and he left, and the radio reporter I 495 00:34:31,235 --> 00:34:34,115 Speaker 1: was sitting next to Don Gould, said that that was 496 00:34:34,195 --> 00:34:36,315 Speaker 1: one of the strangest things he had seen in that 497 00:34:36,435 --> 00:34:39,435 Speaker 1: press box, and he added, and nowadays all you see 498 00:34:39,555 --> 00:34:43,515 Speaker 1: up here is strange things. As the Yankees went out 499 00:34:43,595 --> 00:34:47,795 Speaker 1: limply in the ninth, leaving Bernie Williams stranded on first, naturally, 500 00:34:48,275 --> 00:34:51,275 Speaker 1: I waited until all the reporters with real deadlines had 501 00:34:51,315 --> 00:34:53,555 Speaker 1: taken the first couple of elevator trips down to the 502 00:34:53,635 --> 00:34:56,635 Speaker 1: Yankee Clubhouse in the basement. Then then I leisurely made 503 00:34:56,675 --> 00:35:00,395 Speaker 1: my way downstairs. I navigated the catacombs of the stadium 504 00:35:00,475 --> 00:35:03,075 Speaker 1: basement as I had since it had opened in nineteen 505 00:35:03,195 --> 00:35:07,115 Speaker 1: seventy six, and felt warm and nostalgic and at peace. 506 00:35:08,155 --> 00:35:10,395 Speaker 1: I showed my pass to the guard at the clubhouse 507 00:35:10,475 --> 00:35:14,195 Speaker 1: door and walked into the clubhouse to find the Yankee 508 00:35:14,235 --> 00:35:17,755 Speaker 1: Clubhouse lacking the one thing it had literally always featured 509 00:35:17,835 --> 00:35:20,755 Speaker 1: in each of the dozens and dozens of times I'd 510 00:35:20,835 --> 00:35:26,235 Speaker 1: previously entered it since I was seventeen years old. Players. 511 00:35:27,075 --> 00:35:32,955 Speaker 1: There were no Yankee players in the Yankee Clubhouse. No Yankees, 512 00:35:33,515 --> 00:35:37,355 Speaker 1: no Yankees still in uniform, no Yankees half dressed, no 513 00:35:37,515 --> 00:35:41,235 Speaker 1: Yankees not dressed, No sounds of other Yankees in the 514 00:35:41,315 --> 00:35:47,075 Speaker 1: showers off to the left. Nothing. Well, that wasn't quite right. 515 00:35:48,315 --> 00:35:51,755 Speaker 1: I realized something after about a minute of walking slowly 516 00:35:51,915 --> 00:35:56,155 Speaker 1: from locker to locker, thinking, isn't this where they used 517 00:35:56,195 --> 00:36:00,035 Speaker 1: to be? Maybe Maddingly is crouching out of sight over here, 518 00:36:00,155 --> 00:36:04,035 Speaker 1: and maybe Tartable is hiding behind his suit. After that, 519 00:36:04,195 --> 00:36:07,435 Speaker 1: over three three, I realized that while there were no 520 00:36:07,675 --> 00:36:10,755 Speaker 1: Yankees in the Yankee Clubhouse, there were reporters in the 521 00:36:10,835 --> 00:36:15,115 Speaker 1: Yankee Clubhouse, and they were all staring at me and 522 00:36:15,435 --> 00:36:19,635 Speaker 1: angrily staring at me. I said to them, might have 523 00:36:19,675 --> 00:36:21,955 Speaker 1: been my friend from upstairs, Don Gould, what the hell's 524 00:36:22,035 --> 00:36:25,275 Speaker 1: going on? And he said testily, I don't know. Why 525 00:36:25,315 --> 00:36:29,635 Speaker 1: don't you tell us. The reporters around him, who had 526 00:36:29,755 --> 00:36:33,435 Speaker 1: never taken their eyes off me, now murmured quietly, but 527 00:36:33,595 --> 00:36:38,795 Speaker 1: with a subtext of threat and menace and vengeance in 528 00:36:38,915 --> 00:36:44,915 Speaker 1: their indistinct gurgling. Just at this point, Arthur Richmond, who 529 00:36:44,955 --> 00:36:47,355 Speaker 1: had been the Mets public relations man forever and was 530 00:36:47,435 --> 00:36:50,755 Speaker 1: now a Yankees' vice president of something for some reason, 531 00:36:51,035 --> 00:36:53,315 Speaker 1: and more importantly, was the surviving brother of the great 532 00:36:53,355 --> 00:36:55,915 Speaker 1: baseball reporter Milt Richmond, who had so helped me at 533 00:36:55,955 --> 00:36:59,995 Speaker 1: the start of my career at UPI. Arthur tapped me 534 00:37:00,115 --> 00:37:03,395 Speaker 1: on the shoulder and said, uk, Keith Oberman, right, And 535 00:37:03,515 --> 00:37:06,435 Speaker 1: I said, yes, we've met before. I used to work 536 00:37:06,475 --> 00:37:09,435 Speaker 1: with your brother. And he did not look happily at me. 537 00:37:10,355 --> 00:37:12,195 Speaker 1: And I asked him if he wanted to see my 538 00:37:12,395 --> 00:37:16,595 Speaker 1: pass or my ID or my identifying birthmarks. Arthur did 539 00:37:16,675 --> 00:37:19,395 Speaker 1: not smile. The manager would like to see you in 540 00:37:19,475 --> 00:37:22,595 Speaker 1: his office. I still didn't have the faintest idea what 541 00:37:22,715 --> 00:37:26,035 Speaker 1: was going on. Have I been said down to the miners, Arthur, 542 00:37:26,435 --> 00:37:31,635 Speaker 1: I asked, jauntily. Yes, yes, you have, Richmond answered with 543 00:37:31,995 --> 00:37:36,595 Speaker 1: utter seriousness. Arthur Richmond escorted me to the little room 544 00:37:36,635 --> 00:37:38,595 Speaker 1: on the home plate side of the clubhouse, in which 545 00:37:38,635 --> 00:37:40,715 Speaker 1: I had once seen the late Billy Martin shout at 546 00:37:40,715 --> 00:37:43,515 Speaker 1: a coach, two pictures, three writers, and a clubhouse attendant 547 00:37:43,515 --> 00:37:45,355 Speaker 1: who had been with the team since nineteen twenty seven. 548 00:37:46,315 --> 00:37:49,195 Speaker 1: The current occupant of that tiny office, the manager, rose 549 00:37:49,235 --> 00:37:52,635 Speaker 1: from his desk, Keith hi Buck Showalter. I'm the manager here. 550 00:37:53,155 --> 00:37:55,555 Speaker 1: I reminded him that we had done a lengthy interview 551 00:37:55,595 --> 00:37:58,595 Speaker 1: for ESPN Radio the year before. That's right, I'd forgotten. 552 00:37:58,595 --> 00:38:01,475 Speaker 1: I apologize, Listen. I wanted to tell you. I think 553 00:38:01,555 --> 00:38:04,035 Speaker 1: you brought something refreshing and fun to Sports Center. I 554 00:38:04,035 --> 00:38:06,395 Speaker 1: watch all the time time, especially when we're on the road. 555 00:38:06,995 --> 00:38:09,035 Speaker 1: You know the game too, That's important. But I have 556 00:38:09,155 --> 00:38:12,115 Speaker 1: to tell you my players have a problem with what 557 00:38:12,275 --> 00:38:15,915 Speaker 1: you do now. On that surprise. Players were like that 558 00:38:16,435 --> 00:38:19,995 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety three. Very few sportscasters said anything negative 559 00:38:20,035 --> 00:38:23,475 Speaker 1: about players. They certainly did not make jokes or puns 560 00:38:23,555 --> 00:38:26,475 Speaker 1: about them. I saw you on the field before the game. 561 00:38:26,875 --> 00:38:30,275 Speaker 1: I heard some of our guys show, Walter continued, like 562 00:38:30,435 --> 00:38:34,235 Speaker 1: Paul O'Neal and Wade Boggs and Joe Girardi. They were 563 00:38:34,315 --> 00:38:36,195 Speaker 1: talking about how they were thinking about going out there 564 00:38:36,235 --> 00:38:40,315 Speaker 1: on the field and punching you in the head. I 565 00:38:40,435 --> 00:38:45,715 Speaker 1: flashed back suddenly to nineteen eighty nine when Boggs went 566 00:38:45,795 --> 00:38:49,035 Speaker 1: on Heraldo Rivera's show and announced he was a sex addict, 567 00:38:49,595 --> 00:38:51,315 Speaker 1: and how after checking with a few of his Red 568 00:38:51,395 --> 00:38:53,435 Speaker 1: Sox teammates whom I knew from the year I worked 569 00:38:53,475 --> 00:38:55,515 Speaker 1: in Boston, who said that was nonsense. I went on 570 00:38:55,595 --> 00:38:57,875 Speaker 1: the air on my sportscast in the local station in LA, 571 00:38:58,395 --> 00:39:03,395 Speaker 1: having intercut Boggs's weepy comments to Heraldo with the music 572 00:39:03,515 --> 00:39:07,155 Speaker 1: video from Robert Palmer is Addicted to Love. I have 573 00:39:07,315 --> 00:39:11,875 Speaker 1: to say it was pretty funny and also might have 574 00:39:11,915 --> 00:39:15,915 Speaker 1: been the meanest thing I ever did on TV. Boggs 575 00:39:15,995 --> 00:39:18,035 Speaker 1: wanted to punch me in the head on the field 576 00:39:18,035 --> 00:39:23,155 Speaker 1: at Yankee Stadium. That checked out, go on, I said 577 00:39:23,195 --> 00:39:26,195 Speaker 1: to Buck Showalter. In fact, the players are all staying 578 00:39:26,195 --> 00:39:27,915 Speaker 1: in the training room in the back until they've been 579 00:39:27,955 --> 00:39:31,035 Speaker 1: assured you've left the clubhouse and you won't be returning. 580 00:39:31,675 --> 00:39:36,115 Speaker 1: They voted unanimously. I thought about this, when did they 581 00:39:36,195 --> 00:39:39,115 Speaker 1: vote unanimously while they were getting shut out by the 582 00:39:39,115 --> 00:39:42,355 Speaker 1: worst picture of a generation that did not check out? Now, 583 00:39:42,435 --> 00:39:44,555 Speaker 1: Like I said, person, I like what you do, but 584 00:39:44,675 --> 00:39:46,875 Speaker 1: I think you may want to consider the implications of 585 00:39:46,915 --> 00:39:49,955 Speaker 1: what not having any access to players ever again will 586 00:39:49,955 --> 00:39:51,955 Speaker 1: have on your career, especially in such a high profile 587 00:39:51,995 --> 00:39:54,875 Speaker 1: program as Sports Center. I thought about it briefly, and 588 00:39:54,955 --> 00:39:58,235 Speaker 1: I smiled at Buck Showalter. None whatsoever. Actually, I'm a 589 00:39:58,275 --> 00:40:00,555 Speaker 1: studio guy. I never have to go to games. And 590 00:40:00,675 --> 00:40:03,195 Speaker 1: more to the point, I've just left Sports Center for 591 00:40:03,275 --> 00:40:07,355 Speaker 1: this new ESPN to network because my boss has said 592 00:40:07,395 --> 00:40:10,355 Speaker 1: it's basically going to be a network that's designed around 593 00:40:10,435 --> 00:40:14,875 Speaker 1: my sense of humor. Buck Showalter was thirty seven years 594 00:40:14,875 --> 00:40:16,515 Speaker 1: old then, and at the end of his second year 595 00:40:16,555 --> 00:40:19,275 Speaker 1: as a major league manager. His team, having just achieved 596 00:40:19,315 --> 00:40:21,275 Speaker 1: a tie for first place, had just gotten the air 597 00:40:21,355 --> 00:40:23,755 Speaker 1: let out of its balloon by an epically bad pitcher 598 00:40:23,835 --> 00:40:26,075 Speaker 1: on a not so good team. Plus, they were due 599 00:40:26,115 --> 00:40:29,595 Speaker 1: on a flight for Chicago, and the bus was supposed 600 00:40:29,635 --> 00:40:34,315 Speaker 1: to leave in an hour, but Paul O'Neill, Wade Bogs, 601 00:40:34,355 --> 00:40:39,555 Speaker 1: and Joe Girardi were worried about some dumb sportscaster making jokes. 602 00:40:41,075 --> 00:40:46,075 Speaker 1: I knew they were doomed. And if manager Buck Showalter 603 00:40:46,275 --> 00:40:49,395 Speaker 1: actually let Paul O'Neil, Wade Bonds, and Joe Girardi worried 604 00:40:49,395 --> 00:40:53,235 Speaker 1: about some dumb sportscaster and his jokes, Buck Showalter II 605 00:40:53,555 --> 00:40:56,355 Speaker 1: was doomed, And sure enough they would lose twenty of 606 00:40:56,435 --> 00:40:58,715 Speaker 1: their last thirty seven games after that day and not 607 00:40:58,835 --> 00:41:00,795 Speaker 1: make the playoffs for two years and not actually get 608 00:41:00,835 --> 00:41:03,875 Speaker 1: anywhere in the playoffs until after Showalter was fired and 609 00:41:03,955 --> 00:41:08,475 Speaker 1: replaced by my and Joe Tory. Right around then after 610 00:41:08,555 --> 00:41:11,275 Speaker 1: the firing, I was part of the annual ESPN Awards 611 00:41:11,395 --> 00:41:15,195 Speaker 1: show The Spies. It was the post SP's party, and 612 00:41:15,275 --> 00:41:17,075 Speaker 1: I went to get a drink and turned a corner 613 00:41:17,475 --> 00:41:20,835 Speaker 1: and they're coming toward me were Paul O'Neill, Wade Bogs, 614 00:41:20,875 --> 00:41:24,315 Speaker 1: and Joe Girardi. I was just about to gulp when 615 00:41:24,355 --> 00:41:30,435 Speaker 1: O'Neill shouted, there he is our favorite ESPN guy. Handshakes 616 00:41:31,435 --> 00:41:35,435 Speaker 1: all of them. Girardi said he was amazed. Every time 617 00:41:35,475 --> 00:41:37,275 Speaker 1: I ripped a player, he said it was somebody he 618 00:41:37,475 --> 00:41:40,755 Speaker 1: also didn't like. How did I know? Bog said, somebody 619 00:41:40,835 --> 00:41:42,915 Speaker 1: told me that you put my Heraldo appearance into that 620 00:41:43,035 --> 00:41:44,915 Speaker 1: Robert Palmer song. If you got a tape of that, 621 00:41:44,955 --> 00:41:47,315 Speaker 1: I'd like to see it. I told them the Buck 622 00:41:47,355 --> 00:41:52,435 Speaker 1: show Walter story immediately. Ah, God, I remember that, said O'Neil. 623 00:41:52,635 --> 00:41:54,435 Speaker 1: He was pissed. You were in the ballpark and we 624 00:41:54,555 --> 00:41:56,515 Speaker 1: got shut out, and he made us stay in the 625 00:41:56,595 --> 00:41:58,675 Speaker 1: trainer's room and not come out till after you left. 626 00:41:58,715 --> 00:42:02,115 Speaker 1: And god, it was terrible. The smile vanished from Joe 627 00:42:02,155 --> 00:42:05,435 Speaker 1: Girardi's face. Buck did stuff like that all the time. 628 00:42:05,715 --> 00:42:07,635 Speaker 1: We should all have a drink and talk about it. 629 00:42:08,675 --> 00:42:10,635 Speaker 1: We all had a drink and we talked about it. 630 00:42:12,555 --> 00:42:15,595 Speaker 1: Years later, I was telling my late friend Pedro Gomez 631 00:42:15,635 --> 00:42:18,035 Speaker 1: of ESPN the story, and he said Showalter used to 632 00:42:18,115 --> 00:42:21,435 Speaker 1: do this to him when Showalter was managing the Arizona 633 00:42:21,515 --> 00:42:24,835 Speaker 1: Diamondbacks and Pedro was a beat reporter for a newspaper 634 00:42:24,915 --> 00:42:28,275 Speaker 1: in Phoenix. You know, Colbran wants to beat you up, 635 00:42:28,315 --> 00:42:32,995 Speaker 1: but I stopped him. He quoted Showalter as saying Greg 636 00:42:33,075 --> 00:42:35,435 Speaker 1: Colbran was a six foot one hundred and ninety pound 637 00:42:35,515 --> 00:42:39,875 Speaker 1: weightlifter from California's Inland Empire who seemed to play baseball 638 00:42:39,955 --> 00:42:43,955 Speaker 1: in his spare time. So Pedro said, I confronted him 639 00:42:43,955 --> 00:42:45,875 Speaker 1: one day and he said, dude, what are you talking about. 640 00:42:45,995 --> 00:42:49,915 Speaker 1: You know, Buck just makes this crap up. The Yankees 641 00:42:49,995 --> 00:42:52,675 Speaker 1: fired Buck Showalter in nineteen ninety five, as I mentioned, 642 00:42:52,715 --> 00:42:55,955 Speaker 1: and won the World Series in nineteen ninety six. The 643 00:42:56,035 --> 00:42:58,675 Speaker 1: Diamondbacks fired him in two thousand and won the World 644 00:42:58,715 --> 00:43:01,195 Speaker 1: Series in two thousand and one. Then he went to 645 00:43:01,315 --> 00:43:05,555 Speaker 1: work in of all places, the studio at ESPN for 646 00:43:05,675 --> 00:43:08,555 Speaker 1: two years. Then he got another managing job in Texas, 647 00:43:08,595 --> 00:43:11,555 Speaker 1: got fired from there, went back to ESPN for three 648 00:43:11,635 --> 00:43:14,555 Speaker 1: more years, and then became the manager at Baltimore in 649 00:43:14,675 --> 00:43:18,595 Speaker 1: twenty ten. I was at the Baltimore spring training camp 650 00:43:18,675 --> 00:43:22,075 Speaker 1: one day that March and I see walking toward me 651 00:43:22,155 --> 00:43:23,995 Speaker 1: from the other side of the field, trying to capture 652 00:43:24,075 --> 00:43:28,275 Speaker 1: my attention, Buck Showalter. I am now fifty one years old. 653 00:43:28,395 --> 00:43:30,915 Speaker 1: He is now fifty three years old. It is nearly 654 00:43:31,115 --> 00:43:35,075 Speaker 1: seventeen years since the day he locked his entire team 655 00:43:35,195 --> 00:43:37,435 Speaker 1: in the trainer's room in the middle of a Pennant 656 00:43:37,515 --> 00:43:40,955 Speaker 1: race in a complicated ritual that would have been too labyrinthine, 657 00:43:40,995 --> 00:43:44,195 Speaker 1: a plot for Tom Clancy just to express some cheesy 658 00:43:44,275 --> 00:43:49,635 Speaker 1: grudge against the way I did sportscasts, Hey Showalter said 659 00:43:49,675 --> 00:43:52,315 Speaker 1: when he finally reached me, when I pulled that stunt 660 00:43:52,355 --> 00:43:54,875 Speaker 1: on you in Yankee Stadium, was at ninety three or 661 00:43:54,995 --> 00:43:57,595 Speaker 1: ninety four? We shook hands as I laughed, and I 662 00:43:57,675 --> 00:44:00,115 Speaker 1: told him it was August of nineteen ninety three. I 663 00:44:00,155 --> 00:44:02,835 Speaker 1: can get you the exact date if you needed. I'm sorry. 664 00:44:02,915 --> 00:44:05,915 Speaker 1: I had not been in television. I didn't get any 665 00:44:05,955 --> 00:44:09,035 Speaker 1: of it. I just thought you guys came in and 666 00:44:09,275 --> 00:44:12,795 Speaker 1: shouted your heads off and then went home. I didn't 667 00:44:12,795 --> 00:44:15,995 Speaker 1: get it, obviously. Why didn't you tell me off or something? 668 00:44:16,275 --> 00:44:19,315 Speaker 1: He asked. I shrugged. I said, well, there was you. 669 00:44:19,595 --> 00:44:23,315 Speaker 1: There was six coaches, twenty five players there versus me, 670 00:44:23,995 --> 00:44:25,835 Speaker 1: plus all the reporters who were angry at me, who 671 00:44:25,875 --> 00:44:29,755 Speaker 1: were on deadline. What if you were telling the truth now? 672 00:44:30,195 --> 00:44:34,515 Speaker 1: Buck laughed and apologized again. We have been professional friends 673 00:44:34,555 --> 00:44:37,155 Speaker 1: ever since. Whenever I have seen him, we compare the 674 00:44:37,195 --> 00:44:41,115 Speaker 1: cruelties of aging and talk about politics and television. I 675 00:44:41,195 --> 00:44:44,995 Speaker 1: saw him two Saturdays ago, after four more years in TV, 676 00:44:45,115 --> 00:44:47,235 Speaker 1: when it looked like his managing career might be over. 677 00:44:47,315 --> 00:44:49,475 Speaker 1: He is back running the New York Mets at the 678 00:44:49,515 --> 00:44:51,715 Speaker 1: age of sixty six and doing a damn fine job 679 00:44:51,795 --> 00:44:53,595 Speaker 1: of it. And every once in a while I bring 680 00:44:53,715 --> 00:44:55,955 Speaker 1: up the trainer's room full of Yankees, and he flinches 681 00:44:55,995 --> 00:44:59,515 Speaker 1: and says, you know, there's one last thing about it 682 00:44:59,595 --> 00:45:05,755 Speaker 1: that now I cannot possibly understand that trainer's room that 683 00:45:05,995 --> 00:45:11,355 Speaker 1: was really tiny? How did the players all fit in there? 684 00:45:24,755 --> 00:45:26,595 Speaker 1: I've done all the damage I can do here. Thank 685 00:45:26,675 --> 00:45:28,475 Speaker 1: you for listening. Here are the credits. Most of the 686 00:45:28,555 --> 00:45:31,155 Speaker 1: music was arranged, produced, and performed by Brian Ray and 687 00:45:31,275 --> 00:45:34,835 Speaker 1: John Phillip Shanelle, who are the Countdown musical directors. Guitars, 688 00:45:34,915 --> 00:45:38,515 Speaker 1: bass and drums by Brian Ray, all orchestration and keyboards 689 00:45:38,555 --> 00:45:42,275 Speaker 1: by John Phillip Shanelle, produced by Tko Brothers. Other Beethoven 690 00:45:42,315 --> 00:45:44,475 Speaker 1: selections have been arranged and performed by the group No 691 00:45:44,595 --> 00:45:48,075 Speaker 1: Horns Allowed. Sports music is the Olberman theme from ESPN 692 00:45:48,195 --> 00:45:50,915 Speaker 1: two and it was written by Mitch Warren Davis courtesy 693 00:45:50,995 --> 00:45:54,395 Speaker 1: of ESPN, Inc. Musical comments by Nancy Fauss. The best 694 00:45:54,435 --> 00:45:57,395 Speaker 1: baseball stadium organist ever. Our announcer today was my friend 695 00:45:57,475 --> 00:46:01,235 Speaker 1: Larry David. Everything else is pretty much my fault. Don't 696 00:46:01,275 --> 00:46:05,395 Speaker 1: forget Countdown now also available on YouTube with the wonderful 697 00:46:05,435 --> 00:46:11,115 Speaker 1: Little animated me subscribe there too, give yourself options. That's 698 00:46:11,155 --> 00:46:13,715 Speaker 1: countdown for this, the nine hundred and twenty third day 699 00:46:14,195 --> 00:46:17,275 Speaker 1: since Donald Trump's first attempted coup against the democratically elected 700 00:46:17,315 --> 00:46:20,035 Speaker 1: government of the United States. Arrest him again while we 701 00:46:20,155 --> 00:46:23,675 Speaker 1: still can. The next scheduled countdown is tomorrow. Bolton says. 702 00:46:23,715 --> 00:46:28,555 Speaker 1: The news warrants till then, Folk Konta speaking no. I'm 703 00:46:28,635 --> 00:46:33,395 Speaker 1: Keith Olverman, Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and share you. 704 00:46:43,035 --> 00:46:46,955 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For 705 00:46:47,195 --> 00:46:52,035 Speaker 1: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 706 00:46:52,355 --> 00:46:54,275 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.