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Speaker 1: address what makes him so effective in short yardage situations? Well,

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Speaker 1: And Obie did a good job of that. Thank you, UM.

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Speaker 1: So that's i'd say, pretty pretty common on on most

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Speaker 1: So that's long answer to a short question, but that's

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Speaker 1: it works yeah, that was great. Thank you. You're welcome,

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Speaker 1: all right, as a seeing other hands rate that is all.

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