WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Roster Cuts Day 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:10.280 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:21.680 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:25.079 Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headhoars at the 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:36.160 Star in Price and now your hosts Isaiah stand Back, 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:43.080 heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's. The preseason 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.879 is in the rear view mirror. No more guessing, no 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.440 more snap counts. It's time to talk some football, doll. 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.360 That's the next time to Dallas Cowboys take the field. 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.000 It'll be September ninth against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.760 there's a lot of excitement around the fact that guess 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:03.160 what the preseason's done. The Cowboys did go owen four, 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.759 But guess what, the records don't really matter, and we're 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:07.800 going to talk about that and so much more. As 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:10.720 it is cut down day here at the Star and 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:14.520 frist Go. Welcome into Talking Cowboys presented by Tostitos. Tostitos, 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:18.319 the official chip and dip of the Dallas Cowboys. Here 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:21.800 from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. Heck My Harrison, Isaiah stand back, 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.959 Rob Phillips, I'm Kyle Yeomans, and let's get right to it. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.200 No messing around on this show today. There will be 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.280 plenty of hooligans on this show today. But let's get 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.920 down to the nitty gritty. What does the cut scene 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.520 look like right now? Rob Phillips A bunch of unofficial 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:41.600 cuts right now as we sit here at eleven Central 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.800 on cutdown Day. The ones that have been confirmed have 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:48.120 been by Jerry Jones on the fan this morning. And 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.720 you just put out a stat about the quarterback position. 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:52.960 I did so, the Cowboy of the show. Yeah, the 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:57.240 Cowboys cut two quarterbacks, both Garrett Gilbert and Ben Denucci 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:00.400 are now have now both been waived by the Cowboys. 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.560 And the Cowboys are the only team in the NFL 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.160 at least at the moment that has cut multiple quarterbacks. 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.239 That's something they at least keep an eye on moving forward. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.720 But they haven't made the most significant cut in the 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.160 league at the quarterback position. Nope, That then came in 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.760 New England. Yes, but they have made a couple of cuts. 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:25.640 Ben to Nushi, Garrett Gilbert cut Cooper Rush, Heck Isaiah 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:29.840 for now. He's the backup quarterback for now, along with 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.720 some other guys. Again, it's unofficial, but there's been reports 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:38.200 out of guys like Jaquon Hardy, Brandon Smith, Rondell Carter, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:42.920 Darian Thompson's probably the biggest name besides the quarterbacks that 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.520 is expected to be released, and the full list will 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:48.919 come out somewhere around three o'clock Central, right before then. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.200 And this is one of those crazy days in the 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.680 NFL that you kind of have to look at and Isaiah, 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.000 I know you've been through this before specifically, but what 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:00.360 is this day like for the players? I mean walking in? 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.480 Even Barry Church last week talked about it. He's like, 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:04.480 I knew I was on the roster, but it was 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.200 still in nerve wracking days that kind of what players 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.080 are dealing with right now. Yeah, I don't think that 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.040 there's a year aside from my first year in the 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.200 league that I felt like I was safe, you know 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.000 what I'm saying. So I'm probably I'm on the other 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.720 end of the spectrum from BAB from bc UH. It's 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:21.120 not a it sucks. There's no other way to say it. 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.440 For those that haven't been in that situation before, um 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.840 it is. It was very nerve wracking, to say the least. 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.920 You walk in and all the work that you've been 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.200 putting in for however many months now, Right, they've been 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:36.280 rolling since what Mar April around Erkaby Rose is April. 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:38.400 Every day you've been showing up. You've been eating with 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.360 a purpose, you've been training with a purpose, you've been 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.600 studying with the purpose. You've given it. You're all the 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:44.960 OTAs you given it. You're all that training camp and 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:50.440 in the preseason games. And now everything comes down to 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.360 now you're replaying everything that you've ever done over the 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.000 over these past six months, right, you've been re replaying everything. 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.000 You're just like, Okay, did I do this right? All right? 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.200 And in a game that I make, this play would 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:01.440 have been in this shade, I should have done this. 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.400 Oh man, I can't believe you're you're you're you're literally 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:06.640 replaying everything that you could have done. And you're you're 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.960 analyzing and you're critiquing, getting, you're giving yourself a grade. 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:10.920 And then you're you're looking at your guy next to 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:12.520 and you're like, man, is he is he better than 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.160 me than this? You know? So everything you're stressing it 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.400 is is most stressful thing you ever seeing in your life. 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.919 And you're looking for this guy called a grin reaper, 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:22.960 and we can back and back back back in the day. 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.919 It was due by the name of Bruce May best 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:29.400 hair ever, Best hair Ever. But there's there's one person 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:33.559 on the team that's responsible for it, letting you know, hey, player, 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:36.560 I need I need you to go grab your grab 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.719 your your playbook. So you were tight with Bruce, but 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:40.080 you didn't want to see Bruce. You didn't want to 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.359 see Bruce on that day. Yeah, you don't. I'm a 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.000 person who grew up being taught have eye contact when 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.000 you talk to somebody. You know, you have eye contact, 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.800 you greet somebody, and that day he's like you got cataract. 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:53.160 You just just you walk around with your eyes kind 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.159 of looking around because you don't want that person looking 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.240 in your face, be like, I need you, I need, 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:58.760 I need you to come with me. I've been cut 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.120 five times, five times, and every single time you walk 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:03.919 into the building, you in your your stomach is just 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.080 locked up because you know, you know it's coming and 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.040 you're watching guys go. It's not like it happens all 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:09.800 at the same time. You know, are you coming to 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:11.720 the locker room and you know you might see Rob 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.839 pe putting the stuff in and a dog on garbage 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:16.359 bag it is, and this locker you'd be like, dangn 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.880 they got you. Yeah, man, they got me, And you 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.240 know he's like all right, you start saying goodbye to everybody, 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.400 and then then you might see heck, my heck was like, 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:25.560 you know, my heck might be pissed off at his locker. 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.440 He's just sitting there shaking said the day they got you. Heck, 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:29.800 yeah man, it got me. Man, you know it's some 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.520 bs whatever, you know, whatever it might be. And then 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:32.800 you know you're looking at that Kyle like, man, this 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:37.080 is it's just me right, and you start going down there. 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:38.640 You started going down the roster. You're like, okay, we 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.800 played the same position. You know they're only keeping this 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:42.920 many guys. You know it's one of us has got 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:44.360 to go. And you're just sitting there looking around and 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:45.840 then you see that dude come in the locker room. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.800 You're like, oh, shoot, here he come right, and it's like, 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.200 who's he going to? You're watching this footwork, You're watching everything, 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.919 and then it's just it sucks. Man. I want to 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.480 kudos to everybody who's giving it. They're all over these 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.440 past months. I know this position all too well. Regardless 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.360 of what happens today. Even the guys that get through 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:05.720 today might not be there tomorrow, you know. So that's 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:07.719 exactly what I was gonna say, that you have the 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.520 initial cuts and then there's a follow backs up. You 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.200 can't just be comfortable. Nobody can get comfortable. But they're 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.800 thirty one other teams going through the same process, and 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.279 so for the front office, they have to be on 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.359 their p's and ques looking for guys that are falling 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.960 off of rosters that can help yours. And so like 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.000 you talk about being cut five times, but then you 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:27.840 have a super Bowl to play. Give me some of that, 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:32.160 you know, you know, But but then at the same time, 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.520 you had to trust the process of what you did. 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:35.840 And a lot of these guys that are going to 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.320 hit the waiver wire won't make it because other teams 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.560 have seen what they're doing and they'll get an opportunity 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.680 to go play elsewhere. And that's a testament to the 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.040 work that you put in during these times. Like you said, 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.279 you second guessing yourself, did I do this? Did I 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.560 do that? But you did right? And who are those 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.640 guys on our team? Who are those guys that won't 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:56.200 get pass waivers, waivers, who are those really tough decisions? 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.920 I think today for the Dallas Cowboys is very important. 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:02.680 You can't under mine or play this down because the 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.080 guys that you choose to go into the season with 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.960 are gonna say a lot about what you think about 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:12.880 your organization. Yeah, after COVID, after COVID and going after preseason, 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.520 Mike McCarthy's era starts. Now. If you just want to 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.320 give him a mull again for last year, however you 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.880 want to look at it, it's true. So his decision 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.000 and what he does with this fifty three is going 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.200 to be very, very important because it's gonna seal his legacy. 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:30.480 Isaiah almost described that like a relationship, like going through 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.800 my mind, like she broke up with me, Like why'd 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.120 I say this? Why did I wear that? That kind 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.360 of thing. And to be honest with you that this process, 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:42.000 this day is single hendedly probably one of the reasons, 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.080 not the training, not the training camp, not any of 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:45.920 that stuff. This day right here is one of the 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:49.000 reasons why guys just decide I just rather not, I 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.840 just rather not because it's so stressful. It's not just today, 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.520 it is the last four weeks of the preseason, and 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:56.640 every time you make a player don't make a play, 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.160 you're like, man, that was it. Let me ask you this, sir. 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.760 How much is how much is a guaranteed contract in 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.200 the NFL if you make one of these rosters, that 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.960 means about the minimum guaranteed minimum for I think it's 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.000 around seven hundred and six hundred, six hundred and something, 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.280 and I wish shake a coconut out a tree for 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.160 six hundred thousand, and the drop off is sistant. That's 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.920 not even guaranteed. It's not. But tell me a job 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.360 in these Americas that you could get six hundred thousand 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.560 dollars for doing I will tell you I would do 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.960 it a mine. Let me let you people know, Let 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:31.440 me let the fans know. Fans that six hundred thousand 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:32.920 and heck was talking about that as a minimum. I 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:34.920 know everybody out there is like, oh my goodness, those 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.880 guys make too much money. That is a week to 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.600 week contract. Yeah, that is a week to week contract. 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.079 You are earning your keep every single week. And not 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.520 only that, are you competing against the guys on your team, 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.880 You're competing against the thousands of other guys that they 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.560 can go grab and do it cheaper. Yeah. Always, if 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:51.719 you could do it, if you could do it all 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.040 over again, with all the pressure placed on you and everything, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.920 would you do it? Absolutely? Yeah, there it is, Yeah, 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:02.880 so absolutely yes. Babeloffenberg radio analyst, he was the color 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.120 analyst on the TV broadcast. He brought up a really 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.000 good point during the TV broadcast against the Jaguars and 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.319 he said, this is the first time that a lot 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.160 of these guys, a lot of these players, at any 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.320 point in their football career are going to be told 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.719 they're not good enough. A lot of these especially these 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.680 young guys, these rookies. Is Jaquan Hardy's and the Britada 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.960 Knox and the Osiris Mitchell's, the guys who at least 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:25.720 in high school were stars and then they went to 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.080 their college and they were starters and they put up 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.040 big time numbers enough to get to the NFL. And 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.320 then now you get to the NFL and you're told 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.080 you're not good enough. And this is that's why it 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.240 makes it so much harder, not only just on the players, 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.240 but on the families as well. So this is a 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:42.040 it's an interesting day. It's a tough day, and it's 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:43.800 one that the cowboys have to get right. And I 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:45.720 think that's kind of what the balance has to be, 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:47.360 is the cowboys have to get it right. And it's 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.640 also the human side, the human element of the game 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:51.480 as well, Isaiah. I have a nine year old daughter 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.480 by a name of Nadia. Every time she goes out 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.160 to practice or goes to a game. And you might 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.839 tested this because you your son plays ball too. Yeah, 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.199 I tell her do your best and get better every 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:01.959 single time, every time she goes out to preblence, what 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:03.400 are the two things you have to do today? Do 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:08.120 your best and get better. What happens today is doing 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.520 your best getting better is not good enough. Yeah, and 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.480 that sucks. When I've done my best and I've gotten 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.920 better and it's still not good enough, what do you do? 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.400 What does that do to you mentally? And that's the 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.199 battle that these guys are going to be facing today. 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:25.000 And that's you know, Hard Knocks has that formula of 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.880 following guys that are on the fringe or a long shots, 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.839 and some people don't like it as much because they 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:31.360 want to see the stars and all that, but like 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.400 that to me, stories that's I mean, that's basically the 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:36.800 essence of training camp. Is you try to win a 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.120 job that's really really hard to get and really really 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:43.600 hard to hang on to in a profession that nobody 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.199 on this planet can really relate to in terms of 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.600 what the physical demands. And that's why a story like 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.320 Kurt Warner is so intriguing. A guy that never gives 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.520 up on this dream, Guys that have that confidence that 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.160 come back again and again and again and bet on 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.600 themselves and double down on themselves. And then a lot 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.880 of guys around the NFL that end up like that. 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.120 So you know, no matter what, like you said, I 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.400 love what you said about picking yourself up and obviously 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.800 just getting going back to those opportunities and again again 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:11.320 and again. And so they're going to be a lot 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.840 of names building this fifty three. It's what's important. Hey, 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:16.800 we got rid of double G today. Man, that was 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.720 that was a blow. Yeah, let's talk. Let's talk about 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.160 the quarterback position. The next segment. We're gonna get into 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.640 dari and Thompson a little bit and what his next 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.680 steps could potentially be because I don't necessarily think he's 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:30.840 done with the Cowboys yet, and I'll explain that when 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.560 we get into the next segment. But quarterbacks. I mean, 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:35.880 Cooper Rash has won the job at least at the moment. 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:39.000 Like we said, at the backup quarterback position, something that 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.920 we started kind of seeing the shift of heading into 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:44.760 the Jacksonville week whenever he started getting that first team 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:48.840 reps and Mike McCarthy alluded to Garrett Gilbert being kind 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.040 of demoted on that depth chart. Then Bend Nucci, it 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.760 kind of happened throughout the preseason. But Rob, what are 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.880 your thoughts at the backup quarterback position as we stand today? 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.040 And based off of what you saw on Sunday, I'm 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.080 curious to see if they're done. That was the big 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:02.920 thing that I was curious about coming out of Jerry 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.319 Jones's interview on the Fan this morning, and he was 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.640 asked specifically, are they going to look for help? And 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.320 he didn't say no. He didn't say no, but he 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:15.520 did say, quote, pretty high bar in terms of somebody 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:19.800 coming in and having the background with the offense that 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.959 Cooper Rush has. And so people can look at that 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:24.800 and say, from a talent perspective, could they come in 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:28.880 and upgrade that position? Sure, but they have to weigh that, 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.920 you know, could somebody come in and have that familiarity 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.880 with Kellen Moore's system and overtake Cooper Rush. Do they 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.720 even want to keep a third guy on the fifty 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.480 three or could you look to add somebody on the 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.640 practice squad? Could Ben to Nucci be that guy? We'll see. Um, 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.880 it's the competition is just weird to me because they 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:51.560 went the whole camp basically with gil Garrett Gilbert in 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:55.040 one position, and then it shifted for one game and 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.280 then it was over. Yeah, you're right, that's that's really 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.559 what happened, and they did not see enough and Cooper 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.319 Rush got healthy, and you know, I don't think the 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.800 struggles the offense had on Sunday Day held against him 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:12.480 because Jacksonville's playing starters and they weren't. So they'd seen 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.520 enough to give him the job, and he's been in 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.880 this position a lot of times. I am curious to 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.760 see what's going to happen though. If they're definitely gonna look, 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.440 I just wonder what they're gonna do with space that 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:26.720 they have. Hex smirking it don't even white, you're smirking. Well. 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:28.960 I mean, it's such a tough predicament to be in 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.640 with your backup quarterback and you don't have a proven 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.240 guy there. Look at the snaps, look at what he's done, 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:39.120 and you're basically it's all conjecture because you don't know 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.600 exactly what he'll do in the role as a backup quarterback. 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:46.440 I hope and what we all seventy five million dollars 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.280 worth of hope is placed on number four being healthy. 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:53.319 And if Cooper Rush never takes a snap, then thank 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:56.240 you Lord, because that means Number four it's been healthy 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.080 all through the season. We didn't have We don't have 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.200 to worry about that, and that's been his reputation up 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.720 until last year, ten months of inactivity, and now we're 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:08.160 really staring at the great unknown going into Raymond James Stadium, 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.920 and with Cooper Russia as the backup. You can't feel 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:12.960 good about that. No matter what words you say to 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:16.160 comfort yourself, you don't feel good about that. And so 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.960 this team is obviously still looking around the NFL to 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.160 see if there are other and if there are any 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:25.440 other players out there to kind of solidify the backup position. 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:31.280 They're not done. They're not done looking. They're not done. 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.280 The way that the league has set up over the 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:37.600 past few years in terms of increasing your practice squad 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.480 players and in terms of allowing for you to bring 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.320 guys up on game day, they are not done. They 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.440 will sign another quarterback. I've been saying this for the 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:49.200 past few weeks. I foresee them and as obviously indicative too. 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.440 In terms of the restructuring last week, I don't I 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.560 think that's that wasn't just by chance. They didn't make 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:57.400 a move yet. Okay, so so the move that Philly made, 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.240 you don't think that we could have at least made 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.160 that same But yes, we could have made I think 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.160 we could have. We could have, they could they could 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.080 have been interested, and we don't know that. I think 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.200 there's a I think there's more things that are going 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.360 to happen today and over the next five days, and 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.720 then we probably can can even imagine right now. One 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.320 of them, obviously I believe, will be the quarterback position. 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.400 I think that we have to get a quarterback in 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.320 here that if Dak went down, there is no question 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:24.160 can that person play? How much of the system can 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.960 he run? I'll say that again, can he play? Yes, 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:30.120 they need guys and they need somebody to step into 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:31.880 the huddle and that everybody can look at him, be 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.600 like if nothing else. If nothing else works, he could 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.240 take off a run. So now that we can actually 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:39.560 do this and I get called to the principal's office, 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:41.800 I'm going to throw some names out. Let's see if 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.720 we've moved the needle. Just give me a yes or no. 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.040 If this moves the needle for you, and the first 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:50.400 name that popped up, Cam Newton, Does it move the needle? Yes? Why? 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:55.240 Because Cam Newton isn't a very He's in a peculiar 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.880 predicament right now where he needs a year of not 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.080 being the guy. He needs a read he needs a 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.560 recalibration year. And Dalton he needs Anie Dalton year. And 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.320 you see Annie Dalton went out there. He has himself 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.120 a starting job at least for now, for now. But 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:10.160 I think I think Cam Newton allows for you to 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.760 do the same thing that mister Jones was talking about. 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:14.960 Come in and run the same offense. You don't have 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.680 to change what you're calling. Now. He has to learn 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.560 the syste him. But he comes in and he has 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.080 the same type skill set. He could run, he could throw, 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:23.920 he's a big guy, he could you know, all those 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.200 kind of things. He has an armed so we'd have 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.640 to worry about underthrowing our receivers that we have. So 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.720 all those kind of things, now there's a whole lot 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:32.120 of other stuff that we don't know about on the 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.440 back end obviously as far as the mental and in 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.520 his ability to learn all those kind of things. But 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.400 in terms of attributes physical attributes, he fits the mold 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.320 m Jameis Winston and another guy who took a year 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.360 for a little bit, and hey, maybe he ends up 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.480 being something special there. So is that a yes for 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:53.400 you too? That's a noe? Okay? Why well, he's not vaccinated. 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.320 I don't want him anywhere Cam has not vaccinated. I 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.720 don't want him near DAC. All right, we yeah, I 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.800 need you to be available. I don't need anything hypothetical 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.800 to happen. I don't I don't need that. You know, 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.160 this is we need all hands on deck. We don't 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.320 need no funny business. Okay, So if you want to 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.040 be Availa. And I feel like Cam is a victim 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:18.360 of his own whatever it is, and in New England, 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.040 I feel like he opened the door for what happened 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.520 to him. And so no, I don't I don't want him. 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.800 Rob does it move the needle? Absolutely? I mean, like 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.720 like without question, like, he's a bigger name than Andy Dalton, 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:32.720 He's had a better career than any Dalton. When Andy 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:34.879 Dalton signed last year, is like, holy crap, that's the 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.720 best backup the Cowboys I've ever had. Do I think 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.280 it's likely not really, I mean, I mean, beyond what 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:44.080 you guys just said, does he want to be a backup? 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:45.879 Does he want to do that? He doesn't have a choice, 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:49.159 And well maybe maybe you're probably right there. There are 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.800 so many other teams out there that need a quarterback 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.760 that right now think they solidified that that could use Cam. 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.240 You don't think that. You don't think the Washington football 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.200 team could use Cam right now? I think I don't 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.560 think they would put out? Man, wait a minute? Who 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.200 time out? Here we go? Whoa? So you're gonna tell 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.720 you so Cam Newton and Fitzpatrick on that team? Yeah, 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.959 on that team Fitzpatrier, what are y'all talking about him? 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.640 That's his? Not even that's his that Ron Rivera's guy, 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.720 Ron Rivera, coach. That's good point. I didn't even think 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.159 about that, I know, coach. That's why wait, whoa time out? 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.320 Let's go back, Jim Shrews. That's why I'm telling you, 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.720 but but hang on, hang on to me though. It's 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.080 a little bit like what Jerry said about Cooper Rush, 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.440 but on a much larger scale. The season starts in 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.600 ten days, like you're not You're just saying to you 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:39.560 just said, can a guy understand my system? And if 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:41.679 I've played for that guy, then I already know what 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.600 the system is. And you're talking about Fitzpatrick in a 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.240 year where they have a defense all the things that 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.119 would benefit a quarterback like Cam. Would you say if 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.520 he don't know anything, if all things break down, what 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:54.719 I don't run? I don't just what you what can 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:56.760