1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: H Sometimes it's just luck, luck just being in the 2 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: right place at the right time, picking his feet up 3 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: at the right time. You know, he's obviously he's he's 4 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: very you know, he's long, he's tall, and and very 5 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: flexible as you can as you imagine, you know, the 6 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: one last night looked looked worse than than it really was. 7 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: Very fortunate there, but you know, he he seems to 8 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: have a little bit of a knack. But I just 9 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: think that's uh for the most part, you know, just been. 10 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: Just been fortunate. 11 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: Welcome in to jag them. Presented by Jet Homelands today, 12 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: I'm kind of hone. Stephen's Brian Sexton, John Oser with 13 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: me today. That's your head coach Peterson talking about Trevor 14 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: Lawrence's injury. It's a high ankle sprain, but as described yesterday, 15 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: fortunate it is not worse than they originally suspected. That's 16 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: our big thing today. Of course, Trevor Lawrence has to 17 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: be big thing number one for us as we look 18 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: forward to what this team is going to look like 19 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: going forward. They have not ruled him out for the 20 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: game against Cleveland, but Doug Peterson did say he wants 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: Trevor to feel one hundred percent before he gets back 22 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: out there. 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: I want to make sure that Trevor is one hundred percent, 24 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: you know before I before I put him or any 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: any player back on the field. And and you know, 26 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: it's just a matter of of there as a player too, 27 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: as a tolerance that they can they can withstand with 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: with any injury, and you just don't want to risk 29 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: If the player is not in any harm or could 30 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: risk further damage to the area, then then then you 31 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: have to consider it, but definitely don't want to don't 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: want to risk further injury. 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: So they have not ruled him out for that Brown 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: the game, Brian, but also they want him to get 35 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: back to one hundred percent before they play him. So 36 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: what exactly are we looking at this week? 37 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: Guy? 38 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,639 Speaker 2: I think it's simple. If he can play on Sunday 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: in Cleveland, be superman, right. I mean I was stunned 40 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: at the video of him walking down the hallway that 41 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: Monday night football used and he was with every painful 42 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: step grimacing. High Ankle sprains have long been a part 43 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: of life in the NFL, and they have long been 44 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: a three to six week injury. You know, quarterbacks can 45 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: generally tape it up a little bit, but we've seen 46 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: what mobility means john to him in his game. And 47 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: then here's the other thing. I mean, you're talking about 48 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: a quarterback you want to be your guy for the 49 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: next fifteen to eighteen years. You always have to make 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: this smart decision when it comes to him. So from 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: my perspective, if he plays on Sunday, I would be 52 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: not surprised. I would be shocked. And that's only because 53 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: I just can't see how a guy like that can 54 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: play in just a week's time on that injury. Less 55 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: than a week's time. 56 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he's done some superhuman things. He's sort 57 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 4: of superhuman in New Orleans, but this would be sort 58 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 4: of super super human. I guess High Angel sprains, as 59 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 4: you said, three to six weeks, maybe they tape it up. 60 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: I kind of doubt it, you know. I think Doug 61 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: Peterson has his heaviest lift right now, trying to get 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 4: this team back up, trying to get the troops rallied, 63 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 4: if you will, whatever that cliche is, and I don't 64 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 4: expect Trevor to play, and that makes this week's game 65 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 4: against Cleveland to me fascinating ginormous. 66 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: Whatever that word is, well, if you want to look 67 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: just ahead one week, I don't want him to play 68 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: if he can't protect himself against Miles Garrett. Right the 69 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: next week, here come the Baltimore Ravens with the defense 70 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: that has forty three or forty four sacks, and there's 71 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: still a quarter of the season to play, So you've 72 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: got to make sure that he can protect himself from 73 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: some of these guys who will be head hunting a 74 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: quarterback they know isn't quite as mobile. 75 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: And we'll get to it a little bit later on 76 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: the show, but there's injuries across the offensive line as well, 77 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: which you have to bring up because they have to 78 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 3: protect him, and if he can't protect himself, that's something 79 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: to think about as well. Our second big thing today 80 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: is talk that talk, because miscommunication has been a problem 81 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: on the defense and we saw a lot of that yesterday. 82 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: Barring the injuries. The other big thing that stood out 83 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: was a lot of the issues on defense on a 84 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: team that has played well on defense all year long. 85 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: So Doug talked a little bit postgame about what was 86 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: going on on the field. 87 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 5: If you're on the field and the crowd as loud 88 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 5: as they are when we're on defense, you're going to 89 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 5: have we have to reiterate communication and that's all it is. 90 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 5: It's just double checking with everybody. 91 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 6: It's not communication issues, it's just being able to communicate 92 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 6: the calls effectively. So there's a lot of talk that 93 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 6: has to go back and forth because of the way 94 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 6: the crowd and the crowd was great today, you know, 95 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 6: and that's what you want, and it does kind of, 96 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 6: you know, put your defense in a little bit of 97 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 6: a bind because of that. 98 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: John Doug was a little short with the media after 99 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 3: the post game yesterday. I don't blame him for that. 100 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: Is there mis communication issues? Are they not missing? 101 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 7: Well? 102 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 4: I think just was a little misconstrued. After Doug said it, 103 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 4: he was trying to answer a question about why it 104 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: looked like the defense was having trouble communicating for the snap. 105 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 4: That's how I interpret it, And he was trying to 106 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: explain I think that when it's loud, it looks like 107 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 4: there's miscommunication because the defense is trying touch other for 108 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 4: the play. He was sort of criticized by some fans 109 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 4: for criticizing fans. I didn't get the idea that he 110 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 4: was criticizing the fans for being loud at all. I 111 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 4: think this was a case where he was trying to 112 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 4: answer a question, and sometimes when you're answering a question 113 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: and trying to explain things in this SoundBite era, people 114 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 4: try to take it and make it something it's not. 115 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 4: Now that being said, the defense didn't play well, but 116 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 4: I thought the communication was going on during the play. 117 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 4: A lot of bad run fits and they got blown 118 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 4: off the ball. It was a bad defensive game against 119 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 4: the run for a team that's played great against the 120 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 4: run most of the season. 121 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I got the sensition. This is just a 122 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: feeling mad, you know. I mean he was mad standing there, 123 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: mad at his defense that they weren't doing the things 124 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: that they had done all season long, and his comments 125 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: were meant to temperate. He absolutely did not criticize the fans. 126 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 2: He went out of his way to make sure that 127 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: he said they were great. The defensive coordinator is going 128 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 2: to talk this week, and the question is a painful 129 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: one for him, but it goes something like this, how 130 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: is it that your defense, which has had some communication 131 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 2: issues and has talked about working on them throughout the year, 132 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: how is it the communication was a problem for you guys? 133 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: But not for the quarterback making only a second start, 134 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 2: his first away from home, and on Monday night in 135 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: that environment. How is it not a problem for him. 136 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: That's the question that has to get answer. Because John, 137 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: we've frankly talked about communication issues and big plays being 138 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: given up on the field at various points throughout the year. 139 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: The offense was able to overcome it and help the 140 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 2: defense out. The defense got takeaways to help the offense out. 141 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: But the other night, neither side of the ball was 142 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: working very well in communication became the flashpoint. 143 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought the offense actually did okay in that game. 144 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: I was again shocked at the inability to stop the 145 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: run of a team that hadn't run very well. That's 146 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 4: more detailed communications. We don't think about that being communication 147 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: as much as the back end. H Doug thought that 148 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: was the key to the game. I I sort of agreed. 149 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 4: This defense that has stopped the run so well all year, 150 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 4: all of a sudden couldn't fit. It had a lot 151 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 4: of linebackers and safeties going in the wrong direction at 152 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 4: frankly the wrong time. 153 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: Our final big thing today is gonna be next man up, 154 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 3: because we'll go in depth into the injuries, but there 155 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: were a lot of injuries, including Trevor Lawrence. But they 156 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: have to play on Sunday and it's a short week 157 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: before they head to Cleveland, so. 158 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: The next man up. 159 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 8: You know, obviously we would love to have Season out there. 160 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 8: You know, he's a he's a head man. But you know, 161 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 8: if he's not out there, we all got it back. 162 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 8: And it's like I said, but as a next next 163 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 8: man approach to mentality and we can approach it like that, 164 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 8: and defense we hone in no more mistitles like we 165 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 8: get better at the defense and help the Dolphins out. 166 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 8: But I think CJ gonna hold his own and I 167 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 8: think I know you know how to leave this offense, Solf. 168 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 8: You know, we do our part, play a little bit better, 169 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 8: we'll be all right. 170 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: CJ. Bethard is the next man out at quarterback, Brian 171 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: or what are we looking at if CJ's a starter 172 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: on Sunday. 173 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: Look, if I'm Doug, I'm tempted to say he didn't 174 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: play it right and let everybody know that early in 175 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: the week, so they don't think that help is on 176 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: the way that they figure out that they're all going 177 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: to have to lift their games a little bigger, a 178 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: little better rather because sixteen's not back there, So everybody's 179 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: got to be better on blocking, tackling, catching, running, all 180 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: of those things. Everybody's got to have that mentality of 181 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: sixteen isn't there to bail us out. We've got to 182 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: be there to help CJ. And if for some reason 183 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: Superman does show up on Sunday, great, But I think 184 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: the mentality has to be he didn't plan. We've got 185 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: to be ready to do this without him and John. 186 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: I think this roster has the ability to go and 187 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: win a game in Cleveland without him, provided they get 188 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: a couple of those other guys back. Yeah, it does. 189 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 4: I don't think over the course of a season it's 190 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 4: gonna be a playoff team without Trevor Lawrence, but I 191 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: think it can go. It showed the other night that 192 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: in Spurts it can be effective with CJ. CJ did 193 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: a nice job. He led the team to a drive 194 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 4: to tie the game. He made a throw to Ridley, 195 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 4: gave really a chance to make a play on what 196 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 4: was a call that sort of took a touchdown or 197 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: potential touchdown away in overtime. He did his job. He'll 198 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 4: be functional. I thought it was encouraging that the players 199 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 4: Angram Z Jones, guys like that late in the game 200 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 4: seemed to lift. They're gonna have to lift for sixty 201 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 4: minutes on Sunday. It's harder to do that than it 202 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 4: is for a couple of drives. 203 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: All right, coming up after the break, we're gonna go 204 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: over some of the injuries this team suffered and what 205 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 3: they'll be dealing with going into Cleveland this Sunday. And 206 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 3: of course, jag Zam brought to you by Field's Auto 207 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: Group jackson They'll step up to luxury Fields Auto. 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On Tuesday, 217 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: December twelfth, from five to six. You can meet members 218 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: of the Jaguars there before they head off to Cleveland 219 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: this week. 220 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 7: He's the leader of our team. It does a great 221 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 7: job each week, doesn't doing this thing? You know, I 222 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 7: feel like that that plays on me too, So you 223 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 7: know that definitely hurts. But you know the saying gotta 224 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 7: come out, grow, get ready, and let's get ready to 225 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 7: work next week. Be more decisive, tomro be quicker, so 226 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 7: you know third now, I didn't know if there was 227 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 7: pressure or not. I just got to be able to 228 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 7: make a play and be decisive from the quarterback. 229 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: It's Parker Washington. Welcome back to jag z Am. He 230 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: had a touchdown in this you know NFL touchdown. He 231 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 3: said he felt a little responsibility on that play where 232 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 3: Trevor got hurt. He should have been a little more 233 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 3: decisive on his route. But you know, he got thrown 234 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 3: into the fire for sure because Christian Kirk went on 235 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 3: the first play the game. 236 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: Well, he's gonna get the chance because he's gonna get 237 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: more reps obviously on the practice field this week with 238 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: Christian Kirk being down and he's going to play a 239 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: whole lot more. You know, he made that touchdown catch, right, 240 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: but he also had a critical third down catch where 241 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: he dove and fought for the ball and took it 242 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 2: away from the Bengals defensive back. I saw some things 243 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: that I really liked from him. He's a tough kid. 244 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: He slid in the draft because he had broken part 245 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: of a bone in his foot somewhere when he was 246 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: in his last year at Penn State, and so he 247 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: didn't run quite as well. But he's a guy with 248 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 2: a lot of potential and they're going to need to 249 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 2: work that out of him on the practice field in 250 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks to get some of it 251 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: back from him on the game field. Yeah, it bodes well. 252 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 4: So often if if a guy doesn't play as a 253 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 4: rookie in September, people are panicking, sane it was a 254 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 4: bad draft pick. They were never that worried about Parker Washington. 255 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 4: This hasn't been really a chance for him to play 256 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 4: with Christian Kirk being in there. With the receiver depth, 257 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 4: I think he'll be fine in terms of when when 258 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 4: they throw him the ball, he'll catch it. He needs 259 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 4: to improve knowing where to be on the field, but 260 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 4: that's sort of rookie stuff, you know. That being said, 261 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 4: I don't want to minimize what Christian Kirk being out, 262 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 4: and it sounds like he's out for the season or 263 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 4: at least until you know, AFC Championship Game week, super Bowl. 264 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 4: He's really important in terms of chemistry, reliability. Out of 265 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 4: all the receivers, he's the best at You never worry 266 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 4: that he's going to be exactly where he's supposed to be. 267 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 4: That's a huge edge for the quarterbacks. 268 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: It's why he's the leading receiver. 269 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 4: It's why Trevor depends on him so much that over 270 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 4: the long term is a big, big loss. 271 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: I think the thing we need to remember about Parker 272 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: two is we've talked a little bit about he didn't 273 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: get to play as rookie. Those are mistakes. We've been 274 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: talking about tank tanks for making for twelve weeks. He 275 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 3: hasn't had that opportunity. He got hurt as well, and 276 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 3: then he's coming in to play for Agnum and now 277 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 3: Christian Kirk. So, Christian Kirk a huge injury. He has 278 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: a core injury that Doug said will probably need surgery, 279 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 3: which puts him at you know, six plus weeks out so, 280 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: as John mentioned, if we're lucky to make it that 281 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: far AFC Championship, super Bowl, that's when maybe something like 282 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 3: that could happen. But this injury list is a long one, 283 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 3: and that's something we're talking about because without Christian Kirk, 284 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: he's kind of a safety blanket for Trevor and he 285 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 3: is someone where you know where he's gonna be at 286 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 3: all times. And what does that take away from the offense, John. 287 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: Well, it takes away all that trust, all that kind 288 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 4: of new I mean, you're you're never surprised when when 289 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 4: Trevor drops to pass. It's just the way obviously games 290 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 4: that don't watch it on TV, when Trevor drops to 291 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 4: pass and you look out and you see Christian running 292 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: wide open. 293 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: Like he wasn't the play he got hurt. 294 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're never surprised because he's such a good route 295 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 4: runner and there's such trust. And just think over what seventeen, 296 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 4: how many games Christian's been here, how many huge third 297 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 4: downs he's caught, how reliable he is. We talked for 298 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 4: six seven weeks about how much the offense misses Zay 299 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 4: Jones because you have to account for him well, and 300 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 4: offense is like this the guys that you cannot leave 301 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 4: single covered, which in this offense are Christian Kirk, Evan Ingram, 302 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 4: Calvin Ridley, and Jay Jones. When you lose one, that 303 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 4: messes up the gears and now they have to play 304 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 4: with their gears messed up. 305 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: It just always seems like he's that guy in third 306 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: and forever right where you know you need almost a 307 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: prayer to convert third down in seventeen and he's the 308 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: guy who's open. And I think back to last season 309 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: and the place that he made against the Ravens and 310 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: the Cowboys, the plays that he made against the Titans 311 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: and the Chargers. I mean, he's just he always seems 312 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: to make a big play. And it may not be 313 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: a sixty eight yard touchdown, it may only be a 314 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: twenty six yard completion, but it happens in big moments. 315 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: That's the kind of player he is. He's not tall 316 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: in stature, but he makes tall plays, if that makes sense. 317 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 4: And here's what you sort of notice about Christian. He's 318 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 4: not really on the highlights that much because so many 319 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 4: of his big plays are he's open and Trevor gets 320 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 4: in the ball, because Trevor knows exactly where he's going 321 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: to be, so there's not a whole lot of highlight. 322 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 4: He doesn't after one handed, he doesn't make it all 323 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 4: leaven catches. He's just open and the right timing on 324 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 4: his route. He makes it look easy and subtle and 325 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 4: you don't think about it that much. But how many 326 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 4: big plays. The touchdown against the Colts this year where 327 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 4: him and Trevor are on the same page. Last year 328 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 4: he's the only touchdown against the Titans in the last 329 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 4: game of the season. He makes big plays at big moments, 330 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 4: and again you go back. 331 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: To the trust. 332 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 4: Trust is so big for a quarterback. Out of all 333 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 4: the receivers, Trevor trusts him number one. When Trevor gets back, 334 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 4: that'll be a loss in chemistry he has to make 335 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 4: up for. 336 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 3: Talked about the two biggest injuries, of course, your quarterback 337 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 3: and Christian Kirk who looks like he'll be out long term. 338 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: But there's a lot of other names. So when you 339 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: look at this list of people that are injured, who's 340 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 3: kind of sticking out to you, Brian, who's an injury 341 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: you're concerned about other than the big deal? 342 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: Well, Walker little because you lost Cam Robinson last week, 343 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: right and now a guy that we've heard is a 344 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: natural left tackle is likely the left tackle here of 345 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: the future because the salary cap considerations. Now he's down, 346 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: which means your left tackle is Blake Hants. Okay, ugh, right, 347 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: you worry about that the next two weeks. As I 348 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, teams with really strong pass rushes, and you're 349 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: gonna ask a guy who's probably more naturally a right 350 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: side player and a guard at that to go play 351 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: left tackle. That's troublesome. 352 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Miles Scarrett plays for that team. 353 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: Right he mostly stays on the left side of the defense. 354 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: He's not a guy that they flip really often. He's 355 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: still play with it. Yet take everybody else and go 356 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: go back the weak spot at left tackle because Miles 357 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 2: Garrett's over there. 358 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and with Walker he has shown such great potential. 359 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 4: But you know, as a team, they would love at 360 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 4: some point to know that they can rely on that 361 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 4: for the long term. A lot of him not playing 362 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 4: has hasn't been his fault. The boy, they would have 363 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 4: loved to have seen him healthy for a stretch. And 364 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 4: so at the end of last year, this year he 365 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 4: gets in a right guard and then all of a 366 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 4: sudden he's out, yea. I think he's a big time player, 367 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 4: but boy, you would love to have that body of 368 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 4: work where you said, yeah, we know what that guy. 369 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 3: Is, especially someone you're thinking about giving long term big 370 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 3: money to when yeah, often injured. 371 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think that's let's hope the hamstring isn't bad, 372 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 4: that he can be out there and sort of show 373 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 4: himself for extended period of time. 374 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: I'd like to think that a tackle would have a 375 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 2: better chance of playing on a hamstring, obviously than a 376 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: defensive back or a wide receiver because he doesn't have 377 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: to be quite as explosive. I haven't talked to him. 378 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: I don't know the extent of the injury, but I 379 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: would imagine he's going to gut it out and try 380 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: and go to be there to protect CJ. Befort because 381 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: they're gona need him. 382 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 6: Yah. 383 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 4: The other guy you don't want down is Fotokasi. You 384 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 4: don't talk a lot about defensive tackles, but he's been 385 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 4: a huge reason that they're really stout against the run, 386 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 4: maybe behind Trayvon and Josh, the most consistent player up 387 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 4: front this year. You don't want him out for very long. 388 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: Well, and that's the same injury that cost him the preseason. 389 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 2: Member he heard it on the practice field in Detroit. 390 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: We watched him kay walk off the field at Allen 391 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: Park that day, and he missed the rest of the preseason. 392 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: He's been really stout this year, really, and Devon Hamilton, 393 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 2: as we've heard from the coach, kind of still working 394 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: his way back to being able to play. 395 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 3: For me, I'm looking at the secondary and I think 396 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: that might be the sum of all the parts there, 397 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: because we finally get Tyson Campbell back from that hamstring injury. 398 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: Now he has a right quad injury as well. Trey 399 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 3: Herndon still in concussion protocol in a short week, and 400 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: Andre Sisko heard a shoulder he went back into the game. 401 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 3: But that's also something you're playing with. I know everybody's 402 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 3: banged up at this time of year, but secondary struggling. 403 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: They're down a guy, and now everybody's hurt. 404 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 2: Too well that Herndon one. I mean, Gregor Junior missed 405 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: a lot of time this year. He had his own 406 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: amstring injury that put him on injury reserve. And so 407 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: when you lose Herndon, we don't think of Herndon as 408 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: being that communicator but John, when you play in the slot, 409 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: it's such a unique position compared to playing corner on 410 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 2: the outside. There's a lot of communication that goes on 411 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 2: from that position to FOI a Lucon or Devin Lloyd 412 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 2: talking about who's covering and what they're doing, and they 413 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: were playing a lot of zone the other night and 414 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: that's ultimate communication, right. So it was a confluence of things, 415 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: But losing Trey Herndon is more significant that people might 416 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 2: give it credit for. 417 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 4: And he's a veteran. He's been around it seems like 418 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 4: since the franchise begins twenty eighteen. So yeah, losing a 419 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 4: veteran presence in there is worrisome. And who knows what 420 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 4: the concussion protocol that's yeah, we'll let that play out. 421 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 3: Ducation point is good too, cause I know one of 422 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: the big Jamar touchdown, that big touchdown run in the 423 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 3: beginning where Tyson's up in the air and kind of 424 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: gets beat. After that, Cisco's trying to communicate at the 425 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 3: line before all of that goes down, and that's when 426 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: you're looking at it and maybe what Doug's talking about 427 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 3: it is loud. They're trying to figure things out, but 428 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 3: it doesn't look great, and then obviously we need to 429 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 3: get beat on the play too. So coming up, we're 430 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: gonna look ahead and kind of see what we got 431 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 3: going on with this team a little bit. When we 432 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 3: come back on jagzam, price dot com the easiest way 433 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: to save money with comparison shopping cash back coupons all 434 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 3: in one, It's free. 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We're 443 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 3: gonna have a kind of a group conversation here today 444 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 3: because and a little bit of what if you know, 445 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: because the team is not healthy right now, but if 446 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: they were healthy, do we think this is one of 447 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 3: the best teams in the AFC. We're talking going into 448 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: Monday night football. They're up for that number one seed. 449 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: If this team is at their best after that game 450 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 3: against the Bengals, do you still feel they are one 451 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: of the best teams in the AFC? 452 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 2: I do, and I've said it on the show a 453 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: couple of times. In fact, I thought they would go 454 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: out and prove that against the San Francisco forty nine 455 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: ers and that didn't happen. But then they bounced back 456 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: and had two games they needed to win and they 457 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: did win. I think if they're healthy and at their best, 458 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: which is what the criteria was for this, I think 459 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: they're scoring. They swore with thirty one points the other 460 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 2: night right and lost. And I think that defense with 461 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: twenty one takeaways and number five or number six against 462 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: the runoverall, could they be better? Well, sure, But I 463 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: think you can go and look at the elite teams 464 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 2: in the NFL, the Eagles, the Chiefs at you know, 465 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: find places the Dolphins where they can be better to Yeah, 466 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 2: I think if this team is healthy, I do think 467 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: that they are one of the best teams in the NFL, 468 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 2: one of the best teams in the AFC, for sure. 469 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean there's no question they are, because they 470 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 4: were the other night. They didn't blow out the Bangle. 471 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 4: They lost to the Bengals, who are a five hundred team, 472 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 4: but they were you know, I feel like if Trevor 473 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 4: doesn't get hurt, that they win that game, probably seventy 474 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 4: percent chance. I would put at on any basis for that. 475 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 4: That was just my feeling the AFC this year. The 476 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 4: question is are they a legitimate contender? They absolutely are. 477 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 4: They're not far and away the best team in the AFC, 478 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 4: but the Ravens, who I think feel like the best 479 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 4: team in the AFC. They've lost three times and they've 480 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 4: looked great when they blow teams out, that's what they do. 481 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 4: They've also lost the Jaguars were about to win the 482 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 4: other night. The way they've won a few games, which 483 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: is sort of gutting it out. They're a smart veteran team. 484 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 4: It didn't work out from the other night. Yeah, I 485 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 4: think it. Also, remember they swept the Colts. Everybody sleeps 486 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 4: in the Colts. But that's sweet. The Cults are nine 487 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 4: and three and winning this thing. They've beaten the Steelers, 488 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 4: they've beaten the Texans once. They've beaten those teams legitimately 489 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 4: to keep those teams at bay. I think they're one 490 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: of three or four teams that are really really good 491 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 4: in the AFC went healthy that they're really good. 492 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: I'm not quite there yet, and I think that's just 493 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: because they beat the teams they need to beat. They 494 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: do what they need to do. But they're not blowing 495 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: anybody out. And I don't know how much they're addressing 496 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: the concerns that we've had been talking. I feel like 497 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: we talk about the same concerns and they haven't necessarily 498 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 3: gotten better. Like we talk about the susceptibility to the 499 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 3: big play, and obviously it was extreme examples against the 500 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 3: Bengals with one of the best receiving cores in the NFL, 501 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: But that's an issue that's been an issue, and the 502 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: run game covers up a lot of that. And that 503 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 3: kind of goes into our second this or that, which 504 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 3: is this has been a really good defense, but have 505 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 3: they been stout all around or have they just been opportunistic? 506 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: They're really good at stopping the run other than against 507 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: the Bengals, but then the secondary has lacked. There's miscommunication, 508 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: there's other areas of deficiency. Is this a really good 509 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: defense or have they just been playing with their strengths? 510 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 2: Well, I think they're a good defense. Right. They have 511 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: twenty one takeaways, which puts them in the top ten, 512 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 2: and they've been top five against the run all season long. 513 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 2: They lack some things in coverage. They're susceptible, whether it's 514 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: the linebackers or the safeties or a corner on an island. 515 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 2: You know, they've given up big chunks of yardage in 516 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: the passing game and allowed some teams, you know, to 517 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 2: make games tighter than preps we thought they should be. 518 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: I don't know that they well. I mean, you look 519 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 2: at the two or three best defense in the league. 520 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 2: You look at San Francisco and Baltimore. I don't think 521 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: they're I don't think they're there. But I do think 522 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: on a good day they're a really good unit. I 523 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: just don't think they're e laite. 524 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 4: They're really good when they play how they can play. 525 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 4: And that's what I didn't share the other night. They didn't. 526 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 4: If you talk to any defensive player in that locker room, 527 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 4: they will clearly lay out what they have to do 528 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: be good. They have stopped the run that forced turnovers, 529 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 4: and then when they stopped the run puts them in 530 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 4: passing situations where they are teams at a disadvantage. But 531 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 4: the other night they didn't do that. So guess what. 532 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 4: When they don't play to their identity, they're not a 533 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 4: good defense, because they weren't the other night. They gave 534 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 4: it four to ninety. When they do what they believe 535 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 4: they're good at, then they are a pretty good defense. 536 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 4: So I don't know how to explain why all of 537 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 4: a sudden they weren't having good run fits the other night. 538 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 4: But had they then I think we were talking about 539 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 4: a good defense the other night. They were not a 540 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 4: good defense. When they do what they do, they're pretty good. 541 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 2: Well they're gonna get a chance this week to prove it, right, Yeah. 542 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a game with Joe Flacco, who 543 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: gives them something in the passing game that they haven't 544 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 2: had with the other backup since DeShawn Watson's been down. 545 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 2: But Amari Cooper is in the concussion protocol, so who 546 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 2: knows whether he'll play or not. This is big boy 547 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 2: football without Nick Chubb. They don't does not bob the 548 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: Browns in that stadium. Their personality is run the ball, 549 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: and they're gonna run the ball, so you better be 550 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 2: prepared to line up and take the ball your way. 551 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 2: Thirty plus times. If you can do that, if you 552 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: can keep them at three yards three point five yards 553 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: to carry, then you get a chance to go take 554 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: on an aging thirty eight year old Joe Flacco. We 555 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: could see the pass rush, we could see some takeaways. 556 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: We could and that's the way. By the way, it's 557 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: essential for CJ. Bethler to succeed. He's going to need 558 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 2: extra possessions and short fields and this defense is gonna 559 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 2: have a chance to make that happen. 560 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 4: So everybody's defense, for the most part, has defined this 561 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 4: season for them. This is their chance to re set 562 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 4: the season. I think if they win this game, they 563 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 4: get in the playoffs because I think the schedule late 564 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 4: in the season, I have a tough time against Baltimore 565 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 4: Trevor's hurt, but then it gets either that final stretch. 566 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 4: This is a huge game for this team, and it 567 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 4: sets up to where the defense that they play to 568 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 4: its strength, can can have one of those games where 569 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 4: you're talking to four defensive players after the game and 570 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 4: they're the story. This could be their game. But it's 571 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 4: tough because this is what the Browns did. 572 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: To take this defense from that very good to that 573 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 2: top level elite. You need Andre Cisco, you need Tyson Campbell, 574 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: and you need Devin Lloyd and of course Dramon Walker. 575 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: But you need those players to lift their games. They've 576 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: got to be more consistent. And obviously Campbell's been out 577 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: with the injury for a while so he hasn't been 578 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 2: able to but Cisco, Lloyd and Walker. I want to 579 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: leave Walker off because he's been consistent, but those two, 580 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 2: in particular on the back end, have been up and 581 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: down and up and down and up and down. And 582 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: if they lift their game on Sunday, the Jaguars have 583 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 2: a really good chance to win. 584 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 3: And we've seen they're capable of it. 585 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 2: Oh, there's no doubt they're more than able. 586 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 3: So we need to see that out of the defense, 587 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 3: especially with your backup quarterback CJ. Bethort in there and 588 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 3: without Christian Kirk as well, one of the safety valves 589 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 3: for this offense. Say with us, we'll preview what we've 590 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 3: got coming up the rest of the week here on 591 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: Jags Am Jags fans. If you want customized Jaguars furniture 592 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 3: for your home, check out zipcha dot com to browse 593 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: all customizable options. Zip Chair is furniture for fans. The 594 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 3: also want to take a moment now for our Florida 595 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 3: Lottery High School Scholar Athlete of the Month, Christian Socia 596 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 3: Sosia excuse me, has proven his academic excellence, dedication to 597 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 3: the community, and demonstrated leadership on and off the field. 598 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 3: The Bright Future Scholarship Program, which is primarily funded by 599 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 3: the Florida Lottery, assists students in pursuing post secondary education 600 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 3: and career goals. Christian is a senior at Wolfson School. 601 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: He plays golf soccer four point eight GPA and he 602 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 3: hopes to attend Florida State. So congrats to Christian. 603 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: I think Florida say probably hopes he attend there too. 604 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely looks very well rounded going into this week, we 605 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 3: don't know where we're gonna get. Trevor Lawrence is listed 606 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 3: as talking this week, so hopefully we'll hear from him 607 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 3: today and kind of figure out exactly where he's at. 608 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 3: But Brian, you're on record saying you. 609 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 4: Just want CG. 610 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 3: Brethard to be why guy this week and just kind 611 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 3: of take that out of the equation. 612 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: You know, back in the seventies, there was a big 613 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: AFC championship game between the Steelers and the Raiders and 614 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: those Johnny, you remember, those were called the Holy Wars. 615 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: I mean they were vicious games, and there great Steelers teams. 616 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: They had Rocky Blyyer and Franco Harris and both of 617 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: them were out for a game or both of them 618 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: were injured, and Chuck Noll famously said help is not 619 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: on the way, guys, you better figure out how to 620 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: do this on your own and then sort of set 621 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: the standard. You know, you have to have that mindset 622 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: of man sixteen's not coming to the rescue this week 623 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: like he has. It's got to be on me to 624 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: do my job better, whatever that job is. And so yeah, 625 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: I'd almost rather see Doug say that from the beginning 626 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: of the week and say it's up to us. The 627 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: other fifty two guys in here have to figure out 628 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: how to get it done because we're not going to 629 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: have him on Sunday. And then again, if he shows 630 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: up on Saturday night at the team meeting and says, hey, 631 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 2: I feel great, I'm ready to go, great bonus. 632 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Steelers actually lost that game to the Raiders, 633 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 4: and because Franco and Rocky again hurt the week before 634 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 4: against the Colts and there were Steelers people who had 635 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 4: wished that Chuck had just ruled them out. I mean 636 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 4: that was sort of the and I get that if 637 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 4: Trevor has a chance to play, he should play, and 638 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 4: if he can protect himself a few words, I think 639 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 4: it's a it's a fascinating week on that front. I'm 640 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 4: really looking forward to this week. In this game, it's 641 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 4: easy to say in the NFL, well, this game is 642 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 4: gonna show a lot about this team. I think this 643 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 4: game really wished a lot about this team. The Browns 644 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 4: are tough to beat up there. They've only lost one game. 645 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 4: They're not gray away from home, but they're really good 646 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 4: at home. For the Jaguars to go win this in 647 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 4: this circumstance, this is a heavy lift. This is a 648 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 4: huge game. 649 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,239 Speaker 2: Well, look, it's a tale of two cities, so to speak. Right, 650 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: you've got Cleveland and Jacksonville, and both of them have 651 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 2: massive injuries. The Browns starting quarterback is off right to 652 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 2: Shaun Watson. Both their starting tackles from the season are gone. 653 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: Nick Chubb is gone. Denziel Warden and Miles Garrett have 654 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: both played banged up and those are the two best 655 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: players on their defense. And now you look at the 656 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 2: Jaguars injury list, which we showed earlier in this show. 657 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: It's important to know this is not just about Trevor, right. 658 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you've got to have an offensive lineman and 659 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: a defensive back or two. You've got guys that you 660 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: legitimately need to work and manage through this week to 661 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: get them on the field to give yourself a chance 662 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: to win. With CJ. Bethford, it's more than just Trevor. 663 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: It's a bunch of guys and. 664 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting for sure. We'll learn a 665 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 3: lot today as we hear from Doug Peterson and hopefully 666 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence. So we'll be back here on jag Zam 667 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 3: tomorrow and give you a little bit more about what 668 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 3: this game against Cleveland's gonna look like on Sunday,