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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast, the It's True Swear Scouts Honor

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Speaker 1: edition as I visit with Bengals scout Andrew Johnson, now

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Speaker 1: entering his tenth year with the team. Then it's the

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Speaker 1: latest edition of five Questions with one of this year's

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Speaker 1: thing since a Ring of Honor case for my broadcast

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Speaker 1: partner Dave Lapham. This week, the Bengals announced that voting

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Speaker 1: has started for this year's Ring of Honor Class Season

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Speaker 1: ticket members have until Friday June sixth to cast their vote.

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Speaker 1: I joked in a speaking engagement recently that I have

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Speaker 1: three wishes this year. Number one a cure for baldness,

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Speaker 1: Number two a Bengals Super Bowl title, and number three

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Speaker 1: seeing Dave Lapham inducted into the Bengals Ring of Honor.

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Speaker 1: Lapp was a Bengals offensive lineman for ten years and

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Speaker 1: the starting left guard on their first Super Bowl team.

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Speaker 1: His skill and smarts made him a Paul Brown favorite

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Speaker 1: offensive line in the same game. And since his stellar

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Speaker 1: This will be Lap's fiftieth year with a franchise as

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Speaker 1: a player and broadcaster. I can't think of a better

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Speaker 1: way to celebrate his golden anniversary than adding Dave Lapham

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Speaker 1: to the Bengals Ring of Honor. Now, let's get to

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Speaker 1: my first guest. Andrew Johnson is entering his tenth season

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Speaker 1: as a Bengals scout and he had some interesting things

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Speaker 1: Al Golden, his defensive coordinator, and how he benefited from

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Speaker 1: working in the hotel industry. Andrew, for all the times

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Speaker 1: it occurs to me that we have never discussed your

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Speaker 1: path to the NFL. I know you played at Cornell,

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Speaker 1: you were a tight end. There wasn't your plan to

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Speaker 2: It was I knew since I was in high school

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Speaker 2: and was fortunate enough to play in college. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I actually came up here and interviewed. So I medical

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Speaker 2: redshirted as a freshman at Cornell. I had three right

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Speaker 2: four years. So I graduated in May of fifteen. Actually

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Speaker 2: drove from Ithaca, New York, down here to what was

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Speaker 2: Duke reached out to me January of sixteen. I remember

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Speaker 2: very fortunate that Duke reached out to me and I

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Speaker 2: came on as an intern February fifteenth of twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: I was hired full time May first to twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: So I'm very, very fortunate to work for wonderful people

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting because I had the dream of becoming

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Speaker 1: Did you have a strategy for getting into scouting or

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Speaker 2: So at Cornell, I wouldn't say football is in the

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Speaker 2: wonderful parents that supported me greatly growing up. But my

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Speaker 2: I was prepared to go coach high school, to go GA,

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Speaker 1: Cornell has the most prestigious hotel management program in the country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, proud School of Hotel Administration grad. I personally think

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Speaker 3: So I loved it.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't trade it for for anything. And we'll always

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Speaker 1: We're visiting the Bengal Scout Andrew Johnson, describe your responsibilities

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so going on, just finished up Draft ten, going

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Speaker 2: I think we're doing a little bit of reshuffling that

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Speaker 2: we're going to iron out over the summer. But college wise,

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Speaker 2: you know, I've I've covered you know, Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky,

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Speaker 2: You know, I'll continue to come back to Dax probably

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Speaker 2: because he's you know, one that hit home for me.

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Speaker 2: He's one that I stood on the table for and

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Speaker 2: fifteen people, you know, upwards at three different times, you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, Dax was a five star kid out of Tulsa, Oklahoma,

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Speaker 2: played right away, played multiple positions, was highly effective on

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Speaker 2: was a really special moment. But I would say ninety

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Speaker 1: this year's draft class. First round pick Shamar Stewart has

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Speaker 2: wasn't super productive at LSU, has turned into a very

434
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 2: productive player. Rashan Gary, I think, had three and a

435
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: half sacks at Michigan in his career and has turned

436
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 2: into a highly productive player who's gotten a big second

437
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 2: contract for Green Bay. So those were all guys that

438
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 2: had similar strengths and weaknesses as Shamar. Rare physical talents

439
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: that were young players when they entered the draft and

440
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 2: instinctively were still figuring things out how to use their hands,

441
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: when to bend at the top of the rush, when

442
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 2: to counter back inside, when to long arm, when to

443
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: push pulls, stuff like that. So everything is there for

444
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 2: Chamar to be an all pro player. Everything is there

445
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 2: and I have faith in our coaching staff that will

446
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 2: get him there. So it's it's really exciting to get

447
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 2: a guy like that because had he had I would

448
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 2: even say six or seven sacks, we probably wouldn't have

449
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: seen him. It's it's kind of similar to when we

450
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: took A Marius last year. A Marius is as rare

451
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: physically as anybody in the National Football League, but he

452
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 2: was hurt and you know was I think he was hurt.

453
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: I don't cover Georgia, but being in interviews and meetings,

454
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: but he had, you know, some injury stuff that he

455
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: was working through through the draft process, and that's why

456
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: we got him at I think it was eighteen when

457
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 2: we took him. And for anybody that watched this last year,

458
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: A Marius has a chance to be as special as

459
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: anybody that I've seen it. So I'm hoping that, you know,

460
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: Chamar kind of you know, has a similar trajectory because

461
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: you know, we've I think Marius is a is a

462
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 2: huge trending upward player, and I see a similar path

463
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 2: for Schamar despite them being different positions.

464
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: Your second round pick was linebacker Demetrius Night out of

465
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: South Carolina. He's got a personality that screams future captain.

466
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: What does he immediately add on defense?

467
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: He immediately adds a smart, athletic, hard hitting, well rounded,

468
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 2: three down linebacker. He's a little bit of an older guy,

469
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: he's played a lot of college football, but he's a

470
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: phenomenal young man. He's smart, he can play all three

471
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: linebacker positions. He can blitz, he can tackle, he can

472
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: get off blocks. He's going to contribute on special teams

473
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: right away. I think we took Demetrius with the thought

474
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: process that he's also going to play on defense right away.

475
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: So you know, he's somebody. He's a phenomenal athlete. He's

476
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 2: a phenomenal young man. He's great to be around. He's

477
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: assimilated very quickly in the locker room, and I think

478
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 2: he's somebody that is going to, you know, bring a

479
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: a sense of physicality and violence and toughness to our defense.

480
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: And I would agree with what you just said, a

481
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: potential future captain for sure.

482
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: In the third round, you addressed the guard position with

483
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: the selection of George's Dylan Fairchild. Right now, it looks

484
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: like he's the leading candidate to start at left guard.

485
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: This was thought to be a deep guard class, were

486
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: you confident that you could get somebody that could compete

487
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: for a starting job as late as the third round

488
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: or even later.

489
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dylan is someone that we did a ton of

490
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 2: extensive work on throughout the process we had. You know,

491
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 2: our coaches did a lot of hands on work with them. Again,

492
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: I don't cover Georgia, but I know that he is

493
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,959
Speaker 2: somebody that as a Bengals staff, as a whole, we

494
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: did as much work on as any other player in

495
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: the draft. And you know, Dylan is a phenomenal kid.

496
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: He loves football. He's young, he is still a little

497
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: bit of a raw prospect, but he's got length, he's

498
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: very very wrong and for what we do on offense

499
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 2: as a pass heavy offense, he's a great pass protector.

500
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: He's got very good punch and hand strength and grip strength.

501
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 2: So I think from a from a scheme fit, he's

502
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 2: an excellent scheme fit for us. From a personality fit,

503
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: he's going to blend right in with our room. So

504
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: you know, he is somebody that I think we would

505
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: have felt comfortable taking earlier than where we got him.

506
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: And you know, only having six picks made things a

507
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: little bit tougher, you know, it we we had to

508
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: make some some tough calls, you know, here not there

509
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: throughout the draft, but I think everybody is very happy

510
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: we have Dylan. I think it was it certainly was

511
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: a position of need, and obviously he's going to need

512
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,239
Speaker 2: to compete for the job. And he is still a

513
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: little bit of a raw prospect that's got to work,

514
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: you know, work through some some technique things, but physically

515
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: he has everything to be a good starter in our league.

516
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: He was one of the strongest players in the draft,

517
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: and having unanimity with our coaching staff and our personnel staff,

518
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: we feel really good about Dylan.

519
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: In the fourth round, he took another linebacker, Barrett Carter

520
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: out of Clemson. In watching the drills over the last

521
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: few weeks, he looks fast and fluid to me, what

522
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: impressed you about Barrett?

523
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: Barrett is super athletic, another guy that we had a

524
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: higher opinion of than where we took him. We would

525
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: have felt comfortable taking him earlier if we needed to.

526
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: He's probably the best cover linebacker in the draft. He's

527
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: super athletic. He can run, he can change direction, he

528
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: can flip his hips, he can play sam linebacker, will linebacker.

529
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: He was highly productive on special teams. He's a great kid.

530
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: He's a leader. But the biggest thing he's going to

531
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: help us with day one is covering on third down.

532
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: He's a phenomenal cover linebacker.

533
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: In the fifth round, you took Jalen Rivers as six

534
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: to six offensive lineman out of the University of Miami

535
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: with thirty five inch arms. He played tackling guard almost

536
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: equally at the you where did he perform best?

537
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: In your opinion, I think Jalen's a tackle. He's He's

538
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: another kid that is an exceptional young man, somebody that

539
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 2: we you know, I don't do Miami, but saw him

540
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl, and I think he's somebody that

541
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: we see that can that can fill in at both spots.

542
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: You know.

543
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: I think, if if we had to pick one, I

544
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: think tackle is probably his best spot. He's athletic, he's long,

545
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: he can bend, he's got good feet, you know, going inside.

546
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: You know, for what we do on offense, playing guard,

547
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: you know, you you almost have to pass protect like

548
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: a tackle just because how much we pass protect. But

549
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: I think his versatility, his intelligence, his athletic ability, and

550
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: his dimensions, his length were really what stood out to us,

551
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: and you know, I think that he could fill in.

552
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: You know, if somebody goes down to guard, we think

553
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: he can go in and help us. And if somebody

554
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: goes goes down to tackle, we think he can he

555
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: can go in and help us. He reminds me a

556
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: little bit of Deontay Smith. When Deontay came out. I

557
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: did Deontay coming out of East Carolina, and I think

558
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: they had similar bodies of work to this point. Deontay

559
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: had some some injuries here, but you know, there there

560
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: were flashes of Deontay that, you know, we thought we're

561
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: gonna be really good. You know, he unfortunately had a

562
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: couple of injuries here and there. But those two remind me.

563
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: We took Deontay at the back of the fourth and

564
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,239
Speaker 2: those two remind me of each other a little bit.

565
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: Your sixth and final pick was running back Taj Brooks.

566
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: You've got an emerging Chase Brown. You brought back some

567
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: I J. P.

568
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: Ryan.

569
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: What does Taj Brooks add to the mix?

570
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: Taj was very productive at Texas Tech. He's tough, he's strong,

571
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: he's instinctive, he's got good vision, he's got good make miss,

572
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: he can pass protect, He's somebody that we feel can

573
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: do everything that we need. You know, if if somej

574
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: goes down, he can go in, be the past protector.

575
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: If you know, Chase goes down, he can go in.

576
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: You know, God forbid all these If Chase goes down,

577
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: he can go in and carry the ball twenty times

578
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: a game if we need him to. If you know,

579
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: we need him to go in on third down and

580
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: catch a swing out of the backfield, he can do that.

581
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: He's a jack of all trades type of player. You know,

582
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: it was an exceptional running back draft, probably the best

583
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: you know, I saw, and even just this this year

584
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: being the year where all these extra COVID seasons were ending,

585
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: you know, there were more what we would call draftable

586
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: players in this draft than any year that you know,

587
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: of the ten that I've been doing it. So you

588
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: know that that led to you know, guys that we

589
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: had high opinions of being there in the sixth round.

590
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: So you know, we see Taj as somebody that is

591
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: a make it player, a contributing player, and you can't

592
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: say that for every six or seventh round pick. So

593
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: somebody that we feel has a very well rounded skill

594
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: set and could go in and you know, if, as

595
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: I said, he can carry the ball, he can pass, protect,

596
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: he can catch the ball and run routes. So phenomenal

597
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: young man too. Has has really these last couple of weeks,

598
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: you know, just getting here been a great ad and

599
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: fit in very well.

600
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: We're chatting with Bengal scout Andrew Johnson. Let's talk about

601
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: a couple of the undrafted free agents, beginning with center

602
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: Seth McLaughlan out of Ohio State. He won the Remmington

603
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: Award He's the best center in the country before tearing

604
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: his achilles in November. He hopes to be back by

605
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: the start of training camp. What grade did you have

606
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: on Seth before the injury.

607
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: Yes, certainly. You know, in the scouting world, you grade

608
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: the medical separate from the playing ability. So you grade

609
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: the playing ability for what it is, You grade the

610
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: character for what it is, and you grade the medical

611
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: for what it is. There are three independent evaluations that

612
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: all you know, it's all part of the player's body

613
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: at work. But certainly thought Seth was a was a

614
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: draftable player and a late day too early day three pick,

615
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: I would say, going into you know, the draft process,

616
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: not being able to work out at the combine not

617
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: being able to work out at Pro Day and having

618
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 2: an active injury during the draft is very difficult. Certainly

619
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: think Seth was going to get drafted, you know, tearing

620
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: your achilles. I think it was in practice, you know,

621
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: either the second or last week of the season for

622
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: Seth is really difficult. Played at a very high level

623
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: for two blue bloods in college football at Alabama and

624
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: Ohio State. Was obviously part of a national championship winning

625
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: team this year. He's super, super smart. He plays with

626
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: outstanding leverage, outstanding instincts. He plays like a veteran on

627
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: the field. You know, he may not be the god

628
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: given athlete that you know, a first round or second

629
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: round center is, but he makes up for that with

630
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: his intelligence, his anticipation, his leverage, his hand use, and

631
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: you know, I'm really excited for him. I hope he

632
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: I hope we can you know, see him in camp

633
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 2: be what he was. I know it's going to be

634
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 2: tough coming back from from a major injury, but you know,

635
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: I think we're planning on, you know, whether it's active roster,

636
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: practice squad, you know, getting him through this injury and

637
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: getting him back to where he was. I think it's

638
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: going to be a really really good ad for us

639
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: when we when we can see Seth back at his

640
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: full go his full potential. So we were thrilled to

641
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: get to get him as a college free agent, and

642
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: I think he's one that you know, will eventually factor

643
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 2: and be a contributing player for us.

644
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: You didn't draft to safety, but you did sign one

645
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: in Chequan Loyal out of Rutgers. He reportedly had offers

646
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: out of high school from Alabama and Ohio State. What

647
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: can you tell us about him?

648
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, really really excited about Shaq. He's as you said,

649
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: we did not draft a safety. You know, it was something,

650
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: it was a position. It's I would still call it

651
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: a position and need for us, and it was just

652
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: one of those positions. We're here in the draft and

653
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: only having six picks, you know, we had to make

654
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Speaker 2: some tough decisions, but we had very very high opinions

655
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: a shack coming out of Rutgers. I was at the

656
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: pro day. I worked him out myself. He is a big, tough, strong,

657
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 2: physical safety that has played free strong and nickel. He's

658
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: been a high level special teams player. I was just

659
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Speaker 2: you know, watching our buzzing through some of our tape

660
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: before we jumped on here, and he made a play

661
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 2: in individual last week. I think it was on Tuesday

662
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: or I think it was Tuesday of last week where

663
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Speaker 2: it you know, we're just doing drills on air here

664
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: in shorts and t shirts. But it was a run

665
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: and catch a deep ball, high point it, and he

666
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 2: made an incredibly athletic play to high point this ball

667
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: and and and come down with it. And that was

668
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 2: something he was more of a box guy at Rutgers,

669
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Speaker 2: so to see him do that, it was like, WHOA.

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Speaker 2: So he's somebody that I think, just in these first

671
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Speaker 2: couple weeks of being here, has really impressed. You know,

672
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: he looks the part. He's athletic, he's strong, he's very

673
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: tough and physical. He was very productive. He plays in

674
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Speaker 2: a program that I have a lot of respect for.

675
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Speaker 2: It's a tough place to play, and he's a he's

676
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Speaker 2: a great ad and I think he's really gonna factor

677
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Speaker 2: for us and eventually be a contributor.

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Speaker 1: We're visiting the Bengals scout Andrew Johnson. You worked with

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Speaker 1: Al Golden previously when he was a Bengals assistant coach.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you watched a lot of his Notre Dame

681
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Speaker 1: defenses as you studied tape as a college scout over

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Speaker 1: the last few years. What stood out to you about

683
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Speaker 1: those Notre Dame defenses?

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Speaker 2: Al first of all, couldn't be more excited to have alback.

685
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Speaker 2: I think the absolute world of Al and can't believe

686
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Speaker 2: he's not a head coach. Hopefully we win the Super

687
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: Bowl here and you know, maybe maybe he gets one then.

688
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: But I that just tells you what I what I

689
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: think of Al. One story I like to tell about

690
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Speaker 2: Al is he was our linebackers coach in twenty twenty

691
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Speaker 2: and twenty twenty one. We went to Super Bowl and

692
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Speaker 2: during the twenty twenty draft, I think it was the

693
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty and twenty twenty one draft, we couldn't do

694
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: our draft visits because of you know, COVID rules, So

695
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: we were doing all these zoom calls with these kids

696
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Speaker 2: and I would, you know, if it was a guy

697
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Speaker 2: in my area, I would jump on with Al and

698
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Speaker 2: listen in. And I remember, I'll leave the player un names.

699
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Speaker 2: But it was a high level first round player that year.

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Speaker 2: And you know a lot of times, you know, some

701
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: coaches will you know, spend five ten, maybe a whole call,

702
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: just getting to know the kid. And we jumped on

703
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Speaker 2: this call with this player. It was a Sunday morning,

704
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Speaker 2: I think it was like eight am, and Al said, Hey,

705
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say his name, but hey, you know,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much for jumping on the call. You got

707
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Speaker 2: to coach, no problem. All right, I'm gonna put this

708
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: front up here, and I want you to tell me

709
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: what happens when you know this guy goes in motion,

710
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: and how you pass it off and what you call

711
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: on your defense. And for forty five minutes straight, we

712
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: did nothing but talk about defenses and fronts and adjustments

713
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: and calls and checks and you know, how to close

714
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: the front and what to communicate to the safeties. And

715
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Speaker 2: I was sitting on the call, like, you know, I'm

716
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: having a hard time following this. So he's he's one

717
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 2: of the most detail oriented people I've ever been around.

718
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Speaker 2: But at the same time, he's a phenomenal personality. He's

719
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Speaker 2: so easy to get along with. He knows when to

720
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Speaker 2: be serious and when to to you know, be you know,

721
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Speaker 2: have fun and be loose. And he's you know, I

722
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: think Al's players love him. I think people I would

723
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Speaker 2: run through a wall for him, and I think our player,

724
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Speaker 2: I think the Notre Dame players when we talked to,

725
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Speaker 2: you know, guys in the draft that played for Al

726
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Speaker 2: at Notre Dame, they loved him. And that's no shock

727
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Speaker 2: to me. Our guys loved him in twenty twenty and

728
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. So I think it's a huge, huge

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Speaker 2: ad for us and I think it's it's going to

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Speaker 2: be the X factor in US winning the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he has a unique ability to develop

732
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Speaker 1: young talent?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, He's one thing about Al is he knows how

734
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Speaker 2: to get along with all walks of life. You know,

735
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: he can talk to, you know, an inner city kid,

736
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Speaker 2: he can talk to a suburban kid. He can talk

737
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Speaker 2: to a ten year of d or a rookie, and

738
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Speaker 2: he strategically communicates to different people to know how to

739
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Speaker 2: get the best out of them. So incredibly happy to

740
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Speaker 2: have him here. And yeah, I think I think development

741
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Speaker 2: is something that we're putting a huge emphasis on, and

742
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Speaker 2: with a lot of you know, obviously everybody knows that

743
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Speaker 2: we've spent a lot of money on the offensive side

744
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: of the ball and that's resulting in a lot of

745
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: young draft picks. On defense. So you know, we have

746
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Speaker 2: a lot of young players that are going to be playing,

747
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Speaker 2: and you know Hal knows that, and we've put an

748
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Speaker 2: emphasis on development, So I have no doubt that he

749
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Speaker 2: will get the best out of our young players.

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Speaker 1: A couple more topics for Andrew Johnson. One of your

751
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: colleagues with the Bengals, Christian Sarkisian, recently left the team

752
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: to be the GM at Northwestern University College football. GM

753
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: is a relatively new position. Is it something that people

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00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: in your world are talking about? It's a possible stepping

755
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: stone to be an NFL GM, not that.

756
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: I have heard of. You know, I think it's a

757
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: different world with the money aspect in college football right now.

758
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: College recruiting is not what it used to be. You know,

759
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: you used to recruit, you know, ten years when I

760
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: was playing, you know, you recruited thirty high school kids

761
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: a year and maybe you took one or two transfers.

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Speaker 2: And now you know, you've got kids making seven figures

763
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: and you're recruiting high school kids, you're recruiting transfers, and

764
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Speaker 2: you're recruiting your own roster back every single day. Because

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Speaker 2: of the current landscape of college football, you know, I

766
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Speaker 2: could go on and on about that for a long time.

767
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Speaker 2: But that's the one thing about the IVY League is

768
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Speaker 2: there's no scholarships. We're just playing for the love of

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Speaker 2: the game. But IVY League hasn't really been impacted by NIL.

770
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Speaker 2: But no, really, really really happy for Christian. He's super smart,

771
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Speaker 2: he was a great guy to work with. He's going

772
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Speaker 2: to do an excellent job, and really happy for him

773
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Speaker 2: and wish him the best.

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Speaker 1: Is your ultimate dream NFL GM.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll answer that by saying that I have no

776
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: intentions of working for any other team than the Bengals,

777
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: and I'll work that back to something I said on

778
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Speaker 2: the you know at the beginning, is that you know,

779
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: we are very, very fortunate to work for the best

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00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: people in football, and I truly mean that, from the

781
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: ownership family to do Uk and Zach. This is a

782
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: special place and that's something that anybody I talked to

783
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: about our team, that's the first thing that I'll tell him,

784
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: and it's the god honest truth.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, I.

786
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: Want to win a Super Bowl here. I want to

787
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: win one for our owner, Mike Brown and everybody in

788
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: the building. But that would be great if it was here.

789
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Speaker 2: That would be great, but I would like to have

790
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: one full time employer in my whole life and that's

791
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 2: the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: This has been fun. Really appreciate your time, Andrew, thank.

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Speaker 2: You, Thank you, Dan Hudei.

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Speaker 1: Before getting to my next guest, here's a quick reminder

795
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Speaker 1: that the Bengals Booth podcast is brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Now time to move on to another edition of five

802
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Speaker 1: Questions with a Bengals rookie. It's my way of getting

803
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: to know them a little bit better by asking five

804
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 1: questions that hopefully they don't hear over and over again.

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Speaker 1: Time for five Questions with third round draft pick Dylan Fairchild.

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Speaker 1: Question number one. I think people have heard that you

807
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: are a tremendous high school wrestler, four times all state

808
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: undefeated as a junior and a senior. You reportedly pinned

809
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: every opponent your senior year here's my question. Could you

810
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: have been an Olympian and did you have any interest

811
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Speaker 1: in trying to pursue.

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Speaker 3: That an Olympian? I don't know.

813
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Speaker 5: That's a hard that's a hard h thing to do.

814
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 5: But I mean, you know, football is always like my

815
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 5: main passion, so I mean, I really just wanted to

816
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Speaker 5: pursue football, but I don't know an olympian.

817
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 3: That's a hard thing to do.

818
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 5: So I don't know if Gabe Stevenson will have something

819
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 5: to say about that.

820
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Speaker 1: I did hear or read that Cale Sanderson, legendary Olympic

821
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 1: old Metal has tried to recruit you at Penn State.

822
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Speaker 1: Was that the case?

823
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did well. He didn't try to recruit me necessarily.

824
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Speaker 5: He just basically told me, like, you know, you can

825
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 5: wrestle here, like if you you know, if you come

826
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Speaker 5: here to play football. I mean it was really more

827
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Speaker 5: of like almost a dual scholarship.

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Speaker 1: Question Number two for Dylan Fairchild. You spent four years

829
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Speaker 1: at Georgia. Who is the toughest person you either faced

830
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: in a game or at practice.

831
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Speaker 3: Definitely Jalen Carter in practice.

832
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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, he's one of the elite guys

833
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 5: in the league, right now, Yeah, I mean i'd probably

834
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 5: just say him in the practice for sure.

835
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Speaker 1: Was it miserable and what made him so tough to face?

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Speaker 5: I think, yeah, that first year was pretty miserable. Was

837
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Speaker 5: not even not even ever feeling anything like that? You know,

838
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 5: like seven A Georgia football is a great it's a

839
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 5: great division to play in high school. But you know,

840
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 5: you got those rare guys that come into college and

841
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 5: you know end up being like how he had a

842
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 5: how his career shaped up. You know, I look at

843
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,479
Speaker 5: us as a blessing just to be able to see

844
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Speaker 5: him early on in my career and feel what the

845
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 5: best feels like.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, question three for dylean Fairchild. According to your bio,

847
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Speaker 1: you are an avid fisherman. What's your biggest catch or

848
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: your proudest fishing accomplishment?

849
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 5: My biggest I caught like a two hundred pounds shark

850
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 5: when I was younger. Man, I don't even say my

851
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 5: biggest bass because it wasn't that big.

852
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the two hundred pound shark. How

853
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: did you bring in a two hundred pound shark?

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Speaker 3: I think I was like eleven. It took me like

855
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Speaker 3: three hours.

856
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually went with my dad a long time ago,

857
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 5: and we went fishing and hooked up on a shark

858
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 5: and then brought it in.

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Speaker 1: So is there a good photo?

860
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 5: No, No, No, I know I wish I had one.

861
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 5: I think we broke it off right at the boat.

862
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean that's I know, I know, I

863
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 5: really wish we got a photo that.

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Speaker 1: I am actually devastated for you that there's no photo

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Speaker 1: of that, all right? Question number four. Your Instagram feed

866
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: includes picks of what appears to be your wedding proposal,

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00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: and I was impressed. There's a giant heart that looks

868
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: like it's made of flowers. There are candles, there's champagne.

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00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 1: You went all out.

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00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 3: Yeah I did, I did.

871
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 5: I gotta give credit to the people at Athletes first

872
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 5: hooking me up and helping me with that too. I mean,

873
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 5: they hooked me up with all the people that could

874
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 5: connect me and.

875
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 3: Help me set it up for my wife. Now she's

876
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 3: my wife now, so.

877
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: I mean she can't say no when you go to

878
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: those lengths.

879
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, No, it was hard to hide it from her,

880
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,959
Speaker 5: Like walking up to it, she knew.

881
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 3: She pretty much knew from a mile away.

882
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: That's all right, when it's that elaborate the element of

883
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: surprise doesn't matter quite as much. Fifth and final question

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00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: for Dylan Fairchild. Tell us thing about you that not

885
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: that many people know.

886
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

887
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm a pretty open book, you know. I mean,

888
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 5: I just pursue the Lord. I love my family and

889
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 5: I love.

890
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: Football, and that's really I'm simple guy. You know. I

891
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: want to farm one day. You could say that. Really, Yeah,

892
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 3: like a small farm, not like anything huge.

893
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: But are there farmers in your family trade?

894
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 3: No?

895
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 5: No, I just it's something that I just want to learn,

896
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 5: and I just want to be constantly learning, and you know,

897
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 5: I feel like that's a great opportunity to do something

898
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 5: like that.

899
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: So I figured this out faith family Football farming. You

900
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: got the big four Big four f's.

901
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: That's right. There you go.

902
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: This has been fun. Great to have you in Cincinnati.

903
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: Appreciate your time, Sarah.

904
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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Now let's turn from five questions to five observations after

906
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 1: watching the Bengals practice and talking to players and coaches

907
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,479
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Topic number one is first round draft pick

908
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart. As of this recording, Shamar is one of

909
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: eleven first round draft picks who hasn't signed a contract

910
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: that's basically one third of the first round, and in

911
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: Stuart's case, he also has not signed a waiver that

912
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Speaker 1: would allow him to practice during negotiations while protecting him

913
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: in the event of injury. As a result, he's still

914
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: observing from the sideline. I don't think it's an issue yet,

915
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: but Zach Taylor says it would help Stuart to start

916
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Speaker 1: practicing asap.

917
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 6: It's always good to be out there physically in the field.

918
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Speaker 3: You know.

919
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 6: Mentally is one thing, and he's doing that. He's in

920
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 6: the meetings, he studying, he's been great about all that,

921
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 6: and then the physical thing. You just don't want to

922
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 6: fall too far behind. You know, every week that passes

923
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 6: and can be different, and you want to set yourself

924
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Speaker 6: up to success. And we expect a great year from

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Speaker 6: Schamar and so part of that will just be getting

926
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Speaker 6: up to speed when he does.

927
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Speaker 4: Get on the field.

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Speaker 1: Oddly enough, the eleven unsigned first round picks include two

929
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Speaker 1: more from the AFC North, the Browns Mason Graham and

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Speaker 1: the Ravens Malachi Starks. Topic number two is another defensive

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Speaker 1: end drafted in the first round by Cincinnati, Miles Murphy,

932
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Speaker 1: and watching Miles during defensive line drills, he looks lean

933
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Speaker 1: and fast. Murphy told Bengals dot Com editor Jeff Hobson

934
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Speaker 1: recently that he's improved his diet in the offseason, including

935
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Speaker 1: eliminating sugary cereals, and the change in his physique is noticeable.

936
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Speaker 1: New defensive line coach Jerry Montgomery is eager to work

937
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: with Murphy and try to help him reach his immense potential.

938
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing is we

939
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 4: can just clean up some technique and fundamental things that

940
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 4: can help them. You know, is this not like he's

941
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 4: a bad football player. I mean, the kid's got he's

942
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 4: got good size, he plays hard. You know, we can

943
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 4: clean up hands, eyes, feed pad level, you know, help

944
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Speaker 4: him put a better you know, rush playing together from

945
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 4: a standpoint on how you want to attack guys, how

946
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 4: somebody's going to set you those things. But like, I

947
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 4: see a kid that has a chance to be a

948
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 4: good football.

949
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: Player, and following the retirement of Sam Hubbard, Miles is

950
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: definitely going to get increased opportunities to show what he

951
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: can do this year. Topic number three is a potential

952
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: Bengals Pro bowler, Tyson Anderson, who is entering his fourth

953
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 1: season has emerged as one of the best special teams

954
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: performers in the league, leading the Bengals in special teams

955
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: tackles in each of the last two years.

956
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 7: I just want to be the best special teams player

957
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 7: in this league. We got a lot of great guys

958
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 7: in this league. Schooler reeves, there's a lot of great dudes,

959
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 7: Killer Brew, It's a lot of great dudes. I just

960
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 7: want to be brought up in no discussion.

961
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 3: Try to push for all pro seasons.

962
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 7: I got some big goals, but just trying to take

963
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 7: baby steps to get there.

964
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: But that's not his only goal. Gino Stone and Jordan

965
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: Battle are the projected starters at safety, but the Bengals

966
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: did not draft one or sign a veteran in free agency.

967
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: Does Anderson view that as a vote of confidence that

968
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: he can contribute in the secondary?

969
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 3: This for sure confidence booster.

970
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 7: Just know that they I guess they view me as

971
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:16,479
Speaker 7: a player who can contribute in this league, so for sure.

972
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 7: But I'm confident regardless. So it's all interconfidence for sure.

973
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: Anderson has great size and speed, but has not played

974
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: any snaps on defense in the regular season. It'll be

975
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: interesting to see if that changes under Al Golden this year.

976
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: Topic number four is Jermaine Burton. I mentioned on this

977
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 1: podcast last week that I've been encouraged by what I've

978
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: seen so far from the second year wide receiver at

979
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: practice and in the building. After a rookie year that

980
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: featured too many instances of being laid or not living

981
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: up to team standards, Burden is taking steps toward earning

982
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: the trust of teammates and coaches. Here are Zach Taylor

983
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow.

984
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 6: All you can handle on is the president right now,

985
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 6: and I think he's done a good job of that

986
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 6: this offseason. He's been in the building, seen in the

987
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 6: building outside of work hours, you know, doing his own thing, rehaving,

988
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 6: preh having I should say, just keeping his body right.

989
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 6: And so again he's attacked every practice and meeting the

990
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 6: right way, and that's what he can control right now,

991
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 6: and so so I appreciate that from treumat.

992
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 8: I think he's stuffed up this year so far, he's

993
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 8: taking it very seriously.

994
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 3: Matured.

995
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 8: It seems like that's exciting to see. I know, based

996
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 8: on conversations that we have had, he's in a good

997
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 8: spot mentally and physically, and he's been working hard.

998
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 1: So that's exciting to see and exciting to hear, keeping

999
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: in mind that we are a long way from the

1000
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: season opener in Cleveland. The fifth and final topic involves

1001
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's appearance on the upcoming second season of the

1002
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: Netflix Quarterback documentary. This edition features Burrow, Jared Goff, and

1003
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and the highs and lows they experienced last year.

1004
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: Joe discussed it with Porters for the first time this week,

1005
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: sharing that he agreed to do the show after getting

1006
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: a call from Peyton Manning, who is an executive producer.

1007
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 8: Caught me on the on the right day, I guess,

1008
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 8: but you know, I think it's gonna be I think

1009
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 8: it's gonna be good entertainment. Not necessarily the season that

1010
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 8: I wanted to have in that spotlight, but you know,

1011
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 8: I think a big part was Peyton being involved.

1012
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 3: In it too.

1013
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 8: You know, I have a lot of respect for him obviously,

1014
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 8: and what he did does is as a person, so

1015
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 8: that guy reaches out to you and asks you to

1016
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 8: do something, then you know, most of the time I'm

1017
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 8: going to say yeah.

1018
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor hopes the show gives viewers an added appreciation

1019
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: for what it takes to be a great NFL quarterback.

1020
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 6: And appreciation of what they go through every single day

1021
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 6: of a game and over the course of a season,

1022
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 6: and how their role can evolve as a season goes,

1023
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 6: the stresses they deal with in game, the pressure is

1024
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 6: not the right word that they put themselves, but just

1025
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 6: the commitment that they put in during the week. I mean,

1026
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 6: if you really filmed every install meeting we have, you know,

1027
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 6: from Wednesday through Saturday night in which I think that

1028
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 6: they do, their cameras are in there, so you're going

1029
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 6: to see some of that stuff with us, and it's

1030
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 6: impressive and it's not many people can do it. It's

1031
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 6: why there's only thirty two starters in the world, you know,

1032
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 6: at this level, and it's Having played the position, I

1033
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 6: obviously have a strong appreciation for what you go through

1034
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 6: physically and mentally. But again, the top dogs at that position,

1035
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 6: like Joe, I mean, what they put themselves through and

1036
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 6: the mental stress that they can handle and process so

1037
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 6: quickly is unbelievable. I'd be hard pressed to say it's

1038
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 6: matched at any position anywhere, just because of what they've

1039
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 6: got to go through mentally and physically. And so you know,

1040
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 6: I'm sure we'll see some of that with this that

1041
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 6: comes on.

1042
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: I for one can't wait. The show is scheduled to

1043
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: be released in July. That's going to do it for

1044
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,880
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