WEBVTT - Press Pass: Ravens' Pre-Draft Press Conference (4/9)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into the Ravens Press Pass podcast. It is Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>April ninth. Today, the Ravens held their annual pre draft

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<v Speaker 1>press conference with head coach John Harbaugh and general manager

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<v Speaker 1>Eric to Costam. They talked about some of the moves

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<v Speaker 1>of the offseason, their strategy going into this draft, and

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<v Speaker 1>how they're building this roster to compete for a championship

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty four. There's a lot of good insight

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<v Speaker 1>from them, So let's go ahead and jump into that press.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, everyone, Well, thanks for coming. We are in

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<v Speaker 2>the literally in the middle of draft meetings. We started

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday with our coaches. We took an early break today

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<v Speaker 2>so we can come down here and grace you out

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<v Speaker 2>with our appearance and we'll get started back at one

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<v Speaker 2>point fifteen. We'll probably finish our draft meetings sometime on

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<v Speaker 2>Friday afternoon or Saturday morning, and at that point the

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<v Speaker 2>board will be pretty much set. We'll have a few

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<v Speaker 2>days the week of the draft to just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>tweak things little bit based on workouts and some additional

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<v Speaker 2>interviews that we conduct, but I think by the end

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<v Speaker 2>of this week we'll be in very good shape to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out who we're going to draft at pick thirty questions, Eric,

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<v Speaker 2>with three.

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<v Speaker 3>Starters calling on the offensive line, how much do you

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<v Speaker 3>think the draft will be used to address some of

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<v Speaker 3>those those horses.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, I certainly think it's a big factor

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<v Speaker 2>for us in terms of team building this year. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we spent the entire day yesterday, just to give you

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<v Speaker 2>an idea, all of yesterday, starting at nine o'clock in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning to six o'clock at night, was spent on

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive line. And that's not necessarily because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>big priority for us as much as the volume of

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<v Speaker 2>players at those positions this year took us a long

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<v Speaker 2>time to cover through all those players and go through

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<v Speaker 2>all the information and get them ranked. So it's a

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<v Speaker 2>very deep pool of players. We see a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>different opportunities in different rounds to get players to tackle, guard,

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<v Speaker 2>and center, and we're excited about that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Eric, how pleased were you to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>sign Kyle Vannoy last week? And you just look at

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<v Speaker 4>the outside lineback position.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys do have quite a few young guys first, second,

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<v Speaker 5>third year.

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<v Speaker 4>Where do you think you are just at that position

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<v Speaker 4>as you as you.

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<v Speaker 2>Get closer to the season, Well, first, we were very

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<v Speaker 2>excited to bring Kyle back. You know, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>great experience for us last year with Kyle, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think Kyle would say the same. He's certainly a player

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<v Speaker 2>that helped us quite a bit. Love his mentality, leadership,

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<v Speaker 2>physicality that he brings, versatility as a player. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's great to have a veteran in the room. And

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<v Speaker 2>we do have a lot of younger guys. We have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of younger guys that we think have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of potential, and we would expect those guys to

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<v Speaker 2>resetir potential this year. We're very excited about really all

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<v Speaker 2>those young players and we've seen some quality play. We've

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<v Speaker 2>seen some flashes of quality play, and we're very excited

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<v Speaker 2>and we can't wait to get started.

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<v Speaker 6>Deepsiness Tramp as far as age rush goes, and how

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<v Speaker 6>is it difficult to sort to see how you're the

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<v Speaker 6>passers and skills in college translated nfl.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Man, Well, I think it's a it's an average draft.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, uh for edge pass rushers, certainly some

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<v Speaker 2>guys at the top. For us, we've had success throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the years and finding some guys in the mill rounds

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<v Speaker 2>that have been good players for us, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>it just it really depends on what you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got your speed rushers, your power guys, guys that

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<v Speaker 2>can do both, Guys that have to play a three

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<v Speaker 2>point stance, guys that can plan two point two point stance.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh So, a lot of it has to do with

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<v Speaker 2>this your fit and what you're looking for. Our coaches

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<v Speaker 2>play a big part in that in their evaluation. Chuck

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<v Speaker 2>Smith does a really really good job evaluating pass rushers

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<v Speaker 2>and has done a good job for us coaching those

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<v Speaker 2>guys as well. So we'll get the board squared away,

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<v Speaker 2>and certainly some guys at the top that probably won't

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<v Speaker 2>be there when we pick. And so the challenge for

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<v Speaker 2>us to be who's that next tier group of guys

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<v Speaker 2>and that sweet spot between you know, the twenty fifth

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<v Speaker 2>player to the forty fifth player that we have a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to get either at thirty or at sixty two.

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<v Speaker 7>Right now? Is that the number that you want to

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<v Speaker 7>be it?

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<v Speaker 2>And when to add that?

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess as part of that, how much value

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<v Speaker 1>you put on the fifth year option, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the first for having to trade act that you use

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<v Speaker 1>that as pastors in.

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<v Speaker 2>The city, you know all altern of trade that, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's great to have additional picks, you certainly have to

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<v Speaker 2>have players that you cover it and that you want

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<v Speaker 2>a draft, and so that's always a factor with every draft.

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<v Speaker 2>And you could have fifteen picks, and sometimes you're there

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<v Speaker 2>and at the end of the draft and you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the board and you have no idea who you

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<v Speaker 2>want to pick. You just don't see anybody that you

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<v Speaker 2>really cover it. So, you know, I always think about

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<v Speaker 2>it as like what picks do you need to get

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<v Speaker 2>the players that you want to take. So you can

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<v Speaker 2>have some great picks, but if the board doesn't fall

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<v Speaker 2>the right way and you're looking at much of players

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<v Speaker 2>that aren't any better than the players you have in

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<v Speaker 2>your roster, those picks really don't help you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>So I like the idea have more picks, but I

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<v Speaker 2>want to have more picks in a specific range I

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<v Speaker 2>think in the draft. And if we can get that done,

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<v Speaker 2>then I could see us, you know, be in a

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<v Speaker 2>good position to really maximize our chances to find good players.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as the fifth year goes, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there is an advantage of having an extra year if

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<v Speaker 2>you want that extra year. So all things being equal,

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<v Speaker 2>if you trade out of the first round, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that you should get a premium if you're gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>that to give up that additional year or speaking of.

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<v Speaker 8>The fifth year option. About a month away from the

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<v Speaker 8>deadline from a shot dating and a dot, they always

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<v Speaker 8>fift decision you anticipating and taking either of those up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we're about a month away from that decision, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's probably when we'll make that decision, I would think.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you know, we'll have more to say about

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<v Speaker 2>that probably after the draft.

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<v Speaker 4>Eric, we've been here a year.

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<v Speaker 9>After years, the two of the plus Joe brties, there's

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<v Speaker 9>only two of you up here today.

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<v Speaker 10>How has his absence effected that you.

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<v Speaker 7>Think it's brave?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's definitely more leg room up here, probably more

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable because he was always kind of button into us.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's it's been a different it's been a change

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<v Speaker 2>for me. Definitely. I missed Joe. I missed his personality.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe's a great evaluator and so first and foremost for me,

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<v Speaker 2>the comfort that I would have with Joe saying, hey, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>take a look at these guys and let me know

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<v Speaker 2>what you think. Great instincts a great feel as an

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<v Speaker 2>evaluator and saying that we've got other guys that are

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<v Speaker 2>excel at that as well. You know, John is a

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<v Speaker 2>great evaluator, Ozzie Knws was a Hall of Fame evaluator,

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<v Speaker 2>George Cokenis, David Blackburn. Our coaches do a great job,

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<v Speaker 2>so we definitely have guys who can pick up the slack.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about it today coming in. I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is my twentieth year running the draft. I think

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<v Speaker 2>my first year was two thousand and five, two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and five draft, the Mark Clayton Draft, and so it's

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<v Speaker 2>crazy to think that you know everything that goes into

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<v Speaker 2>it twenty years and Joe was with me for I

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<v Speaker 2>think nineteen of those twenty years. So obviously it's a

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<v Speaker 2>big change, but I think one that is exciting, and

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<v Speaker 2>we have certainly have people who can step up and

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<v Speaker 2>really get it done.

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<v Speaker 11>Eric, what are the challenges that come with picking this

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<v Speaker 11>late in the draft? You guys have the thirtieth pick,

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<v Speaker 11>kind of have to let the board play itself out.

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<v Speaker 2>And feels like, yeah, you know, I don't see any

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<v Speaker 2>unique challenges picking early, picking late, It's really the same,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just having the players that you really

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<v Speaker 2>want be there when you have to pick. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have a typical draft, if you're picking tenth,

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<v Speaker 2>you maybe have four or five guys you really want.

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<v Speaker 2>You're picking twenty eighth or thirtieth, you might only have

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen or twenty guys that you really want, And the

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<v Speaker 2>way your brain works, you kind of like abscribe of

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<v Speaker 2>value to players and you're hoping to get that value

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<v Speaker 2>at that pick. You really want to get value, and

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<v Speaker 2>so for us, it's just like you just hope and

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<v Speaker 2>pray that you know, one of those, you know, top

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<v Speaker 2>twenty guys might be there for us at thirty, so

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<v Speaker 2>we have some additional value associated with that. But in

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<v Speaker 2>the end, you just grade the players and you rank

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<v Speaker 2>the players bad.

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<v Speaker 12>What's it been like for you two in terms of

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<v Speaker 12>collaborating on you know, and discussing with.

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<v Speaker 13>Your staff about the fix, and in terms of also

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<v Speaker 13>how the commonbine and the interviewing process has gone. Have

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<v Speaker 13>you guys had different opinions and stuff of that age

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<v Speaker 13>or about players that maybe go at it until.

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<v Speaker 9>It's draft there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's just a part of it, you know, Jerry,

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<v Speaker 2>I think one thing I learned from Ozzie and watching

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<v Speaker 2>Ozzie over the years. With coach Marchibrod and coach Billock

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<v Speaker 2>and then with coach arbaugh Is it's a partnership and

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<v Speaker 2>you work together, you discuss you know. I love my

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<v Speaker 2>day to day meetings with John and his coaches, talking

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<v Speaker 2>about our players, talking about the draft, talking about strategies.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of the very biggest joys of this job

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<v Speaker 2>for me day to day. And you know, we disagree

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes John and I we disagree, but I think we

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate each other's perspective on things. We trust each other

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<v Speaker 2>and we both know that we're coming from the right place.

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<v Speaker 2>And for me, that's one of the most rewarding aspects

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<v Speaker 2>of being a general manager.

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<v Speaker 9>John.

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<v Speaker 14>There's so much attention of offensive line and who could

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<v Speaker 14>you draft. I know you don't you like these who

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<v Speaker 14>were comfortable, But are there internal young options now that

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<v Speaker 14>on the russ are ready that you feel like are

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<v Speaker 14>ready to step in and be starting offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, It's going to be competitive. There's going to be

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<v Speaker 6>a competition for those spots. I mean, the best whoever

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<v Speaker 6>plays the best. You always say who's the best player,

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<v Speaker 6>it's the player who plays the best you know, and

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<v Speaker 6>you could have been the best player five years ago,

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<v Speaker 6>but you're not the best player now. So every day

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<v Speaker 6>you go out to practice, every game you play, there's

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<v Speaker 6>an accumulated, established aspect of it. But right now we're

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<v Speaker 6>a little more open. So those guys that you're talking

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<v Speaker 6>about are going to be competing with whoever comes in here,

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<v Speaker 6>and we'll just see who does it. But I think

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<v Speaker 6>those guys are ready to compete and do well, and

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<v Speaker 6>they'll be in here Monday. Can't wait to see them.

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<v Speaker 6>It's gonna be great to see those guys in here Monday,

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<v Speaker 6>working hard. See what happens here.

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<v Speaker 15>Hary, we kind of a.

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<v Speaker 14>Related no air last year you jumped back and grabbed

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<v Speaker 14>Andrew boardies.

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<v Speaker 10>Could you go back to kind of recount how that

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<v Speaker 10>came about.

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<v Speaker 5>And with the year lay off where she had what

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<v Speaker 5>can you realisms?

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, well I I did that just cause I

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<v Speaker 2>knew all you guys want to go home, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I was hoping to catch you guys as you were

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<v Speaker 2>leaving the facility to so you'd all have to come

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<v Speaker 2>back and cover the draft. But now, seriously, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew was a guy that I had seen on tape,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought that he was a good player and

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<v Speaker 2>that he would have a chance long term to be

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<v Speaker 2>a player for us and be a starter force potentially

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<v Speaker 2>a physical, tough guy that loves football. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we were just sitting there and we hadn't made a

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<v Speaker 2>trade and he was still available, and I just had

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<v Speaker 2>this idea that if we cause we cause we had

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<v Speaker 2>already had our kind of end end of the day

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<v Speaker 2>press conference, and I was watching and I thought I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna go upstairs and just call the uh ended

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<v Speaker 2>up being Andrew Berry, which typically we wouldn't do a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of trades with in divisional opponents, but he was

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<v Speaker 2>happy to do it, and so it made all the

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<v Speaker 2>sense and the will for us to do it. So

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<v Speaker 2>it just seemed to me that we would get some

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<v Speaker 2>value with him as a player that had he been

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<v Speaker 2>in the draft and been healthy, he'd have been a

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<v Speaker 2>higher pick. And I saw ability potentially for him to

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<v Speaker 2>be a starter at guard in the league. So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>He's done a fantastic job with rehab. He's very very

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<v Speaker 2>strong and physical. If you guys have seen him, the

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<v Speaker 2>strength coaches and the trainers and the doctors were all

0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:37.920
<v Speaker 2>very excited about him, and so we'll see what he does.

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<v Speaker 4>Eric, I think you've got twenty picks if you include

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<v Speaker 4>the compis between this year's draft in next year's draft,

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere in that neighborhood. Curious how important given sort of

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<v Speaker 4>the financial constructor the roster now and I'm sure it

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<v Speaker 4>was intentional, but just maybe the value of that from

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<v Speaker 4>your perspective for.

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<v Speaker 14>These this year and that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So we you know, looking out last year, we

0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:11.480
<v Speaker 2>felt like we could trade a couple draft picks. Last

0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:15.800
<v Speaker 2>year we did that. We got Rokwan with the idea

0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:17.680
<v Speaker 2>that we would have to start to build up again.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we've always been you guys have covered us

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time. We've always been a team that's

0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.520
<v Speaker 2>been built through the draft primarily. We've always had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of draft picks. I think we probably have had,

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<v Speaker 2>if not the most draft picks in the last ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely in the top you know, quarter of all the

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<v Speaker 2>teams in the league. Probably near the top though, for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's by design. That's we feel that's the best

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<v Speaker 2>way to build your team long term from a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a cost standpoint. Obviously cheaper players, but also young players

0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:48.800
<v Speaker 2>that you know a lot about who can develop and

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<v Speaker 2>become good players. And so we see this year, this

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<v Speaker 2>year's draft, and we see next year's draft, there's real

0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:57.280
<v Speaker 2>opportunities for us to begin to build that depth up again.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think this this past year is we

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<v Speaker 2>had tremendous depth, and the challenge now is for these

0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.640
<v Speaker 2>younger players on the roster right now to be a

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<v Speaker 2>part of that depth and for us to find additional

0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.240
<v Speaker 2>players who can come in and compete to start and

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<v Speaker 2>be good depth players for us moving forward.

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<v Speaker 13>There's been a lot of talk about the offensive line

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<v Speaker 13>class and the wide receiver class.

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<v Speaker 4>We haven't talked a lot about the cornerback class.

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<v Speaker 13>How do you view that year?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think it's a solid class. Certainly, probably

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<v Speaker 2>not at the level of the receiver and offensive line,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, very cyclical, but definitely some players who can

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<v Speaker 2>come in right away and probably compete to start for us.

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<v Speaker 2>We would love to add a talented corner at some

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<v Speaker 2>point in the draft, whether that's first round or second round,

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<v Speaker 2>third round, whatever, that might be a talented player who

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<v Speaker 2>can help us. That's a position, as you all know

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, typically you never have enough due to

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<v Speaker 2>injuries and different things. The guys will break down throughout

0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.720
<v Speaker 2>the course of the season. I think a depth has

0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.520
<v Speaker 2>always been tested in the secondary. This year was no exception,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were blessed to have some guys like, for instance,

0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Ronald Darby come in and really help us. And so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if we have a chance to draft the corner this year,

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<v Speaker 2>you can you can count on us doing that.

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<v Speaker 9>Eric, how relevant is it there with less SEUs You

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<v Speaker 9>so like one position in the first round and wide

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<v Speaker 9>received the three times in the recent pass. Does that

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<v Speaker 9>enjoy in the conversation this year? Well, we've we've done

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<v Speaker 9>that already three times in the last five years or whatever.

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<v Speaker 9>Is that part of the conversation or just best player regardless?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it depends on you know, best player

0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.920
<v Speaker 2>and also team need both. I mean, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if there's a player that's there that we think is

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<v Speaker 2>too good to pass up on, we're gonna take that player.

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<v Speaker 2>We've proven that, We've shown that. That's started with Ozzie

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<v Speaker 2>Newsome and that's gonna continue. Uh as far as I'm concerned,

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<v Speaker 2>as long as I'm here, we're gonna take the best

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<v Speaker 2>available player. So, now that being said, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're picking in the first round, you have an MVP

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback and there's a quarterback that's the best available player.

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<v Speaker 2>Chances are we're not gonna draft the quarterback, but all

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<v Speaker 2>things being equal, we're gonna draft the best available player.

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<v Speaker 6>When we're round o'clock, Eric, in terms of evaluate with

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<v Speaker 6>this new kickoff rule, does that change how you value

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<v Speaker 6>potential returns?

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<v Speaker 10>Or the skill sets are what they are and that's

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<v Speaker 10>the evaluation process won't change in all those players.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a good question, and I would say this,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been blessed to have a head coach who's a

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<v Speaker 2>special teams coach, and we've got excellent special teams coaches upstairs.

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<v Speaker 2>Those guys are really invaluable to me whenever we discuss

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<v Speaker 2>special teams and what these rule changes might mean, and

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<v Speaker 2>the type of players that we're looking for and the

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<v Speaker 2>skill sets that we're looking for. So, you know, we

0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.320
<v Speaker 2>want athletes and we want playmakers. We want they have

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<v Speaker 2>to catch the ball, they gotta be able to break tackles,

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<v Speaker 2>they gotta be able to make guys miss, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think we're in the process of addressing

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<v Speaker 2>that in different ways. There's certainly some skilled guys in

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<v Speaker 2>the draft, some excellent returners. We've talked about a few

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<v Speaker 2>guys already and I think will be in good shape

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<v Speaker 2>on on in September.

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<v Speaker 12>John, when you get your roster, now, what part of

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<v Speaker 12>it do.

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<v Speaker 4>You think would be billed through the draft.

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<v Speaker 13>And maybe that you're kind of a little bit with

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<v Speaker 13>your opinions your basket.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like you're trying to get You're trying to

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<v Speaker 6>get to Eric, the one he won't ask. You're trying

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<v Speaker 6>to come through me on that. See if I'll give

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<v Speaker 6>it up right, you know, maybe Harball or Chirp, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe he'll be the canary. I'm the canary.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>The best available player.

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<v Speaker 6>What we said there's it depends again, it depends on

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<v Speaker 6>We do have some needs and me I got I've

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<v Speaker 6>got my depth chart, there's no doubt. And Eric and

0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.800
<v Speaker 6>I talk about that all the time. Where that where

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<v Speaker 6>the blocks are and what the roles are specifically for

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<v Speaker 6>those guys. I mean, kind of what type of player

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<v Speaker 6>do we need and what type of spot to build

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<v Speaker 6>our team from the top to the bottom. There's a

0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.680
<v Speaker 6>lot of a lot of thought that goes into that,

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of conversation that goes into that. So it's

0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.720
<v Speaker 6>not just the position. It's not just hey, an offensive lineman,

0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.720
<v Speaker 6>a guard, attackle, a wide receiver or corner, a pass

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<v Speaker 6>rusher or whatever, a tight end. It's what type of

0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:54.720
<v Speaker 6>player do we need and what roles do we need filled,

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<v Speaker 6>even right through from offense or defense, right down through

0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:00.480
<v Speaker 6>special teams. It's just is these are all the jobs

0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.200
<v Speaker 6>that need to be done, and who fills those jobs

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<v Speaker 6>the best and in a way they can win for

0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.760
<v Speaker 6>It's not just he can do that, it's who's going

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<v Speaker 6>to excel at what And so that kind of is

0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.399
<v Speaker 6>part of the team building process. And that goes with

0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:16.240
<v Speaker 6>a scheme too, you know. So sometimes you get players

0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.359
<v Speaker 6>that are a little bit different, so you want to

0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:22.120
<v Speaker 6>move your scheme that way. Sometimes you have a way

0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:23.720
<v Speaker 6>you want to play, you have needs on your roster,

0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.400
<v Speaker 6>so you move your draft a little bit that way.

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<v Speaker 6>Like that kind of all part of the art of

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<v Speaker 6>the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>One of those lines we talked about this a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of weeks ago with Lar kind of providing his insight

0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.680
<v Speaker 4>on receiver. We saw the last jobs you could day.

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<v Speaker 4>What's that dialogue been like, is you guys get closer

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<v Speaker 4>and what you know, we know that you guys have

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<v Speaker 4>had some guys here for free draft visits and so

0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:50.439
<v Speaker 4>forth that a position. You know, I guess either one

0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.400
<v Speaker 4>of you that you guys are looking at and more

0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.280
<v Speaker 4>sort of input there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Man, we talked right at the beginning of the off season,

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<v Speaker 6>right to the season about you know, the type of guy,

0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.560
<v Speaker 6>type of role that that he felt would fit. And

0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:05.840
<v Speaker 6>we were all on the same page with that part

0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:07.520
<v Speaker 6>of it, you know, like in terms of our roster

0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.360
<v Speaker 6>kind of what would be comfortable who were looking for

0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.520
<v Speaker 6>style wise, But it doesn't always work out that way.

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<v Speaker 6>So Lamar, you know, he's he's been he's been tasked

0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.480
<v Speaker 6>over the text, you know world with a couple couple

0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:23.720
<v Speaker 6>of assignments, right, So we'll see who he likes, you know,

0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.400
<v Speaker 6>and he looks at guys on tape and and he's

0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.560
<v Speaker 6>never been shy aboutet him his opinion on free agents

0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.600
<v Speaker 6>or the or the draft. So uh, he hasn't he

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<v Speaker 6>hasn't weighed in quite yet, but he will.

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<v Speaker 15>Eric.

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<v Speaker 11>He talked earlier about Andrew Vord. He's a guy you

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<v Speaker 11>drafted last year hoping that he can make an impact

0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.840
<v Speaker 11>this year. It seem like Chren Simpson is another one

0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:45.920
<v Speaker 11>of those guys. How do you feel about that went

0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.280
<v Speaker 11>on backer spot. Is that another one of those spots

0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.680
<v Speaker 11>that maybe you can look with depth into this draft

0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:51.040
<v Speaker 11>as well?

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<v Speaker 2>Well. First, I think you know, Trenton is going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a great season. He's great attitude. I think he

0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.199
<v Speaker 2>grew as much as anybody this year. It's tough, you

0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:03.520
<v Speaker 2>know for young players. He showed up on special teams,

0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.520
<v Speaker 2>when he played on defense, he made some plays late

0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:07.280
<v Speaker 2>in the year, got a lot of talent. I mean,

0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:10.400
<v Speaker 2>he's as talented as any inside linebacker in this year's

0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:14.000
<v Speaker 2>draft class for sure, So excited about him. I think

0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:17.520
<v Speaker 2>we've got some other young players that you know can

0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.280
<v Speaker 2>emerge as well that we're excited about at that position.

0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.399
<v Speaker 2>The draft. We've looked at some guys, definitely some talent

0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:27.920
<v Speaker 2>in this year's draft class. You know, I think it's

0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:32.439
<v Speaker 2>a pretty good class. There's no lake top ten probably

0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.760
<v Speaker 2>inside linebackers in this draft class. But there's a lot

0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:37.679
<v Speaker 2>of depth in the second and third and fourth rounds,

0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.560
<v Speaker 2>and so certainly a position we'll look at, particularly if

0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:42.159
<v Speaker 2>they can play on special teams and help us that

0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.280
<v Speaker 2>way too, which is a really important part of the

0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:48.640
<v Speaker 2>inside linebacker position evaluation wise, But we like our young

0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:51.959
<v Speaker 2>guys that we have excited about those guys and we'll

0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:53.520
<v Speaker 2>see how the whole thing kind of plays out.

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<v Speaker 5>Along those same lenes, running backs probably haven't been primary

0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:58.320
<v Speaker 5>and a lot of the draft off this year. But

0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.240
<v Speaker 5>I mean when you look at that for you see

0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:02.960
<v Speaker 5>some players that maybe you could get on Day three,

0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:04.400
<v Speaker 5>who could maybe come in.

0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:05.080
<v Speaker 3>Right away and help.

0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:07.679
<v Speaker 2>I think so, I mean, you know, I think it

0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:12.000
<v Speaker 2>was an interesting dynamic this year in free agency. You

0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:15.600
<v Speaker 2>saw whatever it was, maybe nine or ten guys get

0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:17.679
<v Speaker 2>signed in the first day a free agency, and I

0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:21.399
<v Speaker 2>think part of that was probably you know, how people

0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:24.080
<v Speaker 2>looked at this running back class in the draft. There's

0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:28.160
<v Speaker 2>no like top tier first round necessarily type talents this year.

0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.280
<v Speaker 2>That being said, there's a lot of guys. If you're

0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.440
<v Speaker 2>looking at the prospects in the second, third, and fourth round,

0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.080
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of those guys, particularly third, fourth, fifth

0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:40.800
<v Speaker 2>round clumps. So we've looked at those guys very closely.

0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:43.560
<v Speaker 2>We're excited about some of those players. You know, there's

0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.919
<v Speaker 2>probably a pretty strong chance we will draft a running

0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:50.720
<v Speaker 2>back at some point, you know, round obviously to be determined,

0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:53.000
<v Speaker 2>but we do think there's a chance for us to

0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.879
<v Speaker 2>get a good young player who can help us in

0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.160
<v Speaker 2>different ways as a running back, in the passing game,

0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:06.720
<v Speaker 2>and also on special teams.

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<v Speaker 12>I think, Eric, and if you guys are one game

0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:12.600
<v Speaker 12>away from the super Bowl, your made some acquisition, you

0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:15.879
<v Speaker 12>retain some players. The prayers are going around in the

0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:19.920
<v Speaker 12>NFL a lot all in, Ravens all in as far

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<v Speaker 12>as twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty four, Well, I'd like to think, Jay, we're always

0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:26.520
<v Speaker 2>all in. You know, in this business, if you're not

0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:28.680
<v Speaker 2>all in, then you're all out as far as I'm concerned.

0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:31.080
<v Speaker 2>So we're going to be in every single year. And

0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I that's what John expects, That's what I expect, That's

0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:35.840
<v Speaker 2>what Steve expects, and I think that's what our fans expect.

0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:39.960
<v Speaker 2>So I think you know you should expect that too, Jerry.

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<v Speaker 15>Eric.

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<v Speaker 2>When you do lose, you know, it's a very type

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<v Speaker 2>of players.

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<v Speaker 3>That you lost in free agency, but it was about

0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:47.560
<v Speaker 3>a dozen players in free agency.

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<v Speaker 10>How do you view where this team though, is because

0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:54.119
<v Speaker 10>you're here here in terms like retooling, you know, reloading

0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.800
<v Speaker 10>where you know, as a guy that's building this team,

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<v Speaker 10>where do you kind of feel what kind of description say.

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<v Speaker 3>That the team is right there.

0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, we're in the same place as we were last

0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:06.120
<v Speaker 2>year at this time. I mean, go back and look

0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:08.320
<v Speaker 2>at what some of you wrote last year and see

0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:09.919
<v Speaker 2>how we ended up. Right, We have a lot of

0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.399
<v Speaker 2>time to make moves. A lot of these players that

0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:15.200
<v Speaker 2>we lost excellent players. A lot of these guys were

0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:17.520
<v Speaker 2>quite in August, right, some of these guys were quite

0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:21.600
<v Speaker 2>in September. So you know, we're still building and a

0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:24.080
<v Speaker 2>big part of that is going to be through the draft,

0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 2>which is why we're all here today. But there's a

0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:29.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of different opportunities along the way to add players.

0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:34.200
<v Speaker 2>We've traded for players, We've drafted players, we signed guys

0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:38.679
<v Speaker 2>unrestricted free agents, we signed guys street players who have

0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:41.960
<v Speaker 2>made it. We've worked guys out. George Cokeenis and Mark

0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:45.439
<v Speaker 2>Assevador do a phenomenal job bringing players in. Our coaches

0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:47.520
<v Speaker 2>do a great job working guys out, giving us a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to find guys like I mentioned them again, Ronald Darby,

0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:54.440
<v Speaker 2>you know those type of players, Arthur Mollett, players like that.

0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:57.479
<v Speaker 2>So I think we're just really getting started, you know,

0:22:57.560 --> 0:22:59.080
<v Speaker 2>and a big part of that is certainly going to

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:03.800
<v Speaker 2>be the draft. But the destination is September, not May.

0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:06.840
<v Speaker 11>To that point, Where does that philosophy kind of come

0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 11>from being able to kind of wait until Like you

0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:12.000
<v Speaker 11>mentioned signing guys in all of these in the case

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:15.159
<v Speaker 11>of Anoid, that was after the season, and these guys,

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:16.880
<v Speaker 11>you know, a lot of these guys have panted out

0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 11>and some of them are at premium positioned. Where does

0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 11>I guess the patients and that philosophy come from to

0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:25.120
<v Speaker 11>kind of wait until that time of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Number one, I'm not a patient person. I've learned

0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:32.360
<v Speaker 2>from Ozzie, who is extremely patient, to be more patient.

0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:35.919
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think it's a philosophy necessarily as much

0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 2>as the opportunity. So I look at every single year

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 2>as being different. Every opportunity is different, every situation might

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:44.639
<v Speaker 2>be different. But we've got to be able to pounce

0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:47.040
<v Speaker 2>when there is an opportunity that we think is beneficial

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 2>to the club. And so whether that's doing something in

0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:53.680
<v Speaker 2>March or April or May, or September or November, we're

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:56.080
<v Speaker 2>going to do that given the parameters of the situation

0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 2>and where we are at as a team at that time.

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<v Speaker 7>Not a lot of underclassmen in this year's draft pool.

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 7>How is that kind of affecting how you looking Day

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:09.919
<v Speaker 7>three and you guys feel like you're do enough homework.

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:13.120
<v Speaker 7>Look at next year's draft pools. Maybe side we don't

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 7>put the libra we are let's say sixth rounds. Maybe

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.200
<v Speaker 7>look at possibly into next year pool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good question. There are less juniors this year,

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think guys for whatever reason, I think

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:28.719
<v Speaker 2>because of COVID partly and because of NIL. You know,

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 2>this whole draft landscape has changed. There's less players in

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 2>the draft this year. There's less probably draftable players this

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:44.400
<v Speaker 2>year on our board, less juniors, less underclassmen, and so yeah,

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 2>I think it is. And we've talked about doing this.

0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 2>We haven't done it as much as maybe I'd like

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 2>to do it. Potentially. We've talked about the idea as

0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:54.639
<v Speaker 2>you get into the later rounds of the draft, if

0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 2>there's nobody there that you cover it potentially trading that

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 2>pick for a better pick. You know, that's one of

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.120
<v Speaker 2>the nuances of the draft. And you trade a pick

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 2>in a given round for next year's pick, you get

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:10.439
<v Speaker 2>the benefit of increased value. So if you trade a

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 2>fifth round pick this year, you get a fourth round

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:16.720
<v Speaker 2>pick hypothetically next year. That discount is actually, if you

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 2>think about it, it only makes sense because the picks

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 2>a year away. But a pick is a pick, so

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.400
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to wrap your fingers around the idea that

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 2>you get more for next year's pick. You would know

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 2>the pick is worth whatever it's worth, so but there

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 2>is an opportunity there, and some teams do it pretty well.

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:36.240
<v Speaker 2>We always tend to look at the board and see

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 2>players that we like that we cover it, and we

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 2>haven't done it quite as much. We've done it a

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:43.119
<v Speaker 2>couple of times, but that's always an interesting thing. I

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.199
<v Speaker 2>think Steve would love us to do that. He's excited

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 2>about that. His idea would be not to give anything away.

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 2>But he has what he calls the Bishatti Reign of terror,

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 2>and that would basically be that you trade a seventh

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:57.360
<v Speaker 2>round pick and any given year for a sixth round

0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:59.719
<v Speaker 2>pick next year, and then take that sixth round pick

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 2>and trade for five, and then trade that five for four,

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 2>and so like in seven or eight years you have

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:07.919
<v Speaker 2>a first round pick. And we've always talked about that,

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 2>but we never get to that.

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 15>Points have worked in that AFL history.

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 2>That's why it's called the Bashatti Reign of Terror.

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 15>It's unique if you anticipate any moves being made over

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 15>the next couple of weeks that could impact your prominent

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 15>needs heading.

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:26.679
<v Speaker 10>Into the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, you never know, Jeff, You just never know.

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.959
<v Speaker 2>I mean, just depends if the phone rings, maybe there

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 2>is a move to be made. If there's a player

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:37.440
<v Speaker 2>that a coach comes in and says this guy's really good,

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.119
<v Speaker 2>or George comes in or whatever it might be, then

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 2>we could make a move. I think in general, you know,

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 2>Kyle was one of the last things on my checklist

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 2>trying to get that done because I think he checked

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.640
<v Speaker 2>off a lot of different boxes for US veteran presence

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 2>on defense, multiple roles on defense, you know, just a

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:01.239
<v Speaker 2>good solid player for US position where we could use

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 2>some depth. So, uh, you know, I don't know that

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 2>we'll do a lot in the next couple of weeks

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.199
<v Speaker 2>other than really kind of polished the board up and

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 2>get ready for the process.

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 4>Eric Analytics has become such a part of you know,

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 4>not just the game, but this process and going back

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:19.400
<v Speaker 4>in a handful of years or so, but probably when

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 4>it sort of started to blossom. Curious like how that's

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 4>shaped your philosophy when it you know, when it comes

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 4>to draft picks and so forth, and is there maybe

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 4>examples where it's swayed you and a guy or a

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 4>direction that sort of thing.

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 2>Uh, you know, it's a tool. It's a tool that

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 2>we use like anything else. It's a part of the process,

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 2>evaluation process. We've got some really skilled people upstairs who

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 2>help in a lot of different ways. I think we

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:59.199
<v Speaker 2>have so much information now that processing the information and

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 2>organized the information I think is extremely important and critical

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 2>in the end. In my opinion. Now I'm an old

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:11.880
<v Speaker 2>school guy, it still comes down to turning the TV

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 2>on and watching the player over and over and over

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 2>and over again until you know exactly what he is.

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:21.400
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I think that's a really important part

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 2>of the scouting process and that will always remain a

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 2>very important part of the scouting process.

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.360
<v Speaker 11>John I know you guys brought back to Charles Johnson

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.120
<v Speaker 11>to be the backup quarterback. You still have only cutting Ham.

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 11>We saw him play a little wide receiver on the

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 11>back end of the season. Is the plan still to

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 11>develop him as a quarterback? Order is in a transition?

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's a good question. I think it remains to

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 6>be seen. You know, we're going to take a look

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 6>at him and see how he does and just get

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 6>to know him better and evaluate him. He's definitely developmental

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 6>as a quarterback. He's developmental as a wide receiver too.

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 6>But he's a good athlete. He's a good person, he's

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 6>a competitive guy. He wants to do well. Kind of

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 6>just I was just thinking listening to the questions back

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:00.040
<v Speaker 6>about the team and the parts and all that and

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 6>the math of the whole thing, and I think it's

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 6>really interesting and good to look at the parts, like

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 6>you say, Okay, they lost this many guys, Yeah, I

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 6>just made guys are not gonna be as good as

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 6>a team, you know, and or how they're gonna fill

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 6>these pieces. And that's kind of a math equation. But

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 6>in the end, it's not just about the parts. It's

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 6>about the sum of the parts, you know. It's this,

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 6>can the some be greater than the parts? And it's

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 6>how you put the parts together and how you piece

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 6>them together. So the process is it's about getting the

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 6>best players you can. And I do agree, you know,

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:27.239
<v Speaker 6>they say it's not about the ex's and no's, it's

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 6>about the Jimmies and Joe's that's real clever and it rhymes.

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:32.959
<v Speaker 6>But it really is about more than just the Jimmies

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 6>and the Joe's too. It's how the Jimmy's and the

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 6>Joe's fit together, and how they're piece together, and how

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 6>you build the schemes and how you build the whole machine.

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 6>So we've got the parts, but we're also building the

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 6>whole machine, you know, and we've done that in the

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 6>last three months with our scheme. You do that with

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 6>your culture, with your work ethic, with your character, type

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 6>of people you bring into your program, what type of

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 6>vision you have, what type of identity you're gonna have

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 6>as a football team. All those things go into it,

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 6>and it's not just a math equation. At the end

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 6>of the year. Like Eric said, these same questions we're

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 6>being asked last year, they were being asked a year before,

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 6>and year before that, year before that, and year before that,

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 6>all the way back. Every year it's the same questions,

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 6>and it's kind of a rolling type of a thing.

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 6>Some years you're gonna lose more free agents, but you're

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 6>gonna pick up more compensatory picks than two years from now.

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 6>You're gonna have more picks in the draft you're gonna

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 6>get younger, and you're gonna have younger players you cost less,

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 6>but you're gonna have to pay the guys that turn

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 6>out to be great players that you want to keep

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 6>as many as you can. So that ongoing process is

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 6>part of this whole big picture, and the goal is

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 6>to be in all in to the question every single

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:35.239
<v Speaker 6>year as best as you can be. You can't just be, oh,

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 6>we're gonna we're gonna put all chips on the table

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 6>this year. Next year we're gonna fold and not play

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 6>any games. No, we're gonna try to win the championship

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 6>every single year as many games as we can. And

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 6>it's the sum of the parts that we put together

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 6>and what we build around those guys and go out

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 6>there and play on Sundays and lay it all out there,

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 6>you know, and with a bunch of fans yelling and

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 6>screaming in the background to support your football team. That's

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 6>what we're all about. That's what football is. It's not

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 6>just a math equation. It's more than that, and that's

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 6>what makes it so exciting and so interesting. And we're

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 6>gonna have a heck of a team next year. You wait,

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 6>you watch, you wait, and see what we do.

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 8>What positions in this draft do you fe'll have more

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 8>value in depth for days two and three?

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 2>I think offensive line is pretty stacked across the board

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 2>in most rounds. I think receiver is a is a

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 2>really deep draft this year. You know, those would be

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 2>two I think, you know I mentioned running back. I

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 2>think that you'll see a lot of running backs get drafted,

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 2>probably starting in the third round. You know, through the

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 2>seventh you'll see a lot of guys get picked. You know,

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 2>those would beat positions that when I look at the

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 2>assess the draft I think are pretty deep positions in

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 2>the draft this year.

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 9>Sharon, how do you like the new well the kick

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 9>off and also the challenges of teaching tackling you when

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 9>you posted to hit drop at it now?

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 6>Any uh Yeah, as far as the new kickoff FRO,

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<v Speaker 6>I love the the kickoff returns and be back in

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<v Speaker 6>the game. You know, I'm kind of on records saying,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I wish they would have looked at a

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<v Speaker 6>couple of other things before taking the line of scrimmage

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<v Speaker 6>O of the kickoff kickoff for turn play, because you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the onside kicks and all that are are still pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 6>And they had already taken the wedges out and the

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<v Speaker 6>double teams out. You know, if you create some space

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<v Speaker 6>for the kickoff return team to operate, maybe that would

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<v Speaker 6>have slowed the kickoff team down. That was a theory.

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<v Speaker 6>But they went all in with this new rule, and

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<v Speaker 6>I'd rather have this than what we had in the

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<v Speaker 6>pass where they were going all in for fair catches.

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<v Speaker 6>That was you know, we were never in favor of that.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think Roger really wanted to kickoff for turn

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<v Speaker 6>back in the game, and that's good. That's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 6>As far as the hip drop tackle, the challenge of tackling,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't I don't even understand the question. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>the hip drop tackle. When did you ever hear about

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<v Speaker 6>the hip drop tackle until like two years ago, three

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<v Speaker 6>years ago. Right, that's because it was discovered, probably in

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 6>rugby and started being executed as a standalone technique. It's

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<v Speaker 6>a three part movement. You've got to execute that play.

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<v Speaker 6>You gotta be close enough to that ball carry to

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<v Speaker 6>actually get him around the hip, all right, pull him

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<v Speaker 6>close to yourself, swing your hips through and drop on

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<v Speaker 6>the back of his legs. If you're that close, wrap

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<v Speaker 6>him up and tackle him and take him to the

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<v Speaker 6>ground like where you used to do and everybody did

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<v Speaker 6>for one hundred years before that. But you're talking about

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<v Speaker 6>a tackle that the ball carrier has no method of

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<v Speaker 6>escape from. He can't escape, so when you drop down

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<v Speaker 6>on the back of his legs, it's a mass and

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<v Speaker 6>it's twenty five times more likely to have a serious injury.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's really a bad play and it needed to

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<v Speaker 6>be out And guys are gonna tackle just fine without

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<v Speaker 6>the quote unquote hip drop tackle because they tackled just

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<v Speaker 6>fine without it for one hundred years of football before

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<v Speaker 6>that when you never saw it. Really, So that's my

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<v Speaker 6>answer to that.

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<v Speaker 7>Eric.

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<v Speaker 3>With offensive liven, there's gonna be maybe a few offensive

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<v Speaker 3>Lien prospects that could fall to the bottom first film

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<v Speaker 3>because they don't have as much starting experience as some

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<v Speaker 3>of the other guys that are taking around.

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<v Speaker 10>How difficult and what's kind of the challenge to project,

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<v Speaker 10>especially offensivelive and when they need not have as much

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<v Speaker 10>game film game tape as some of the other guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's always a challenge at any position, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>lack of production, whether that's catchers, tackles, interceptions, ball plays,

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<v Speaker 2>stars As an offensive line, and that's always you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, those are one of the greatest challenges

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<v Speaker 2>is that the other one might be you know, level

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<v Speaker 2>of competition is a big challenge too, I think as

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<v Speaker 2>an evaluator, so those are things you just fight through

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 2>and you'll watch, you talk to people, you assess, you

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<v Speaker 2>watch the workouts. I think in some cases, you know,

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 2>positional workouts are very very important. You know, you go

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<v Speaker 2>back and you'll watch as much tape as you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that means you have to go back to other

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<v Speaker 2>years and watch a guy play as well, talk to people,

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<v Speaker 2>talk to coaches and things. But it's definitely a challenge Jamison,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Eric.

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<v Speaker 12>Last year at the draft you announced the Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 12>contract extension.

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<v Speaker 2>Does going into this year's draft feel a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>lighter now that you don't have to drop any big

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<v Speaker 2>news on drap by you feel a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>clear how to going into it? Well right now? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's it's been great, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>John and.

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<v Speaker 6>I there's still plenty of time for stuff to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>John and I were down the last week down and

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<v Speaker 2>at the owner's meetings in the pool, hanging out. You know,

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:17.799
<v Speaker 2>drinking champagne cocktails, you know, getting some suns. So you know,

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.359
<v Speaker 2>it's it's been a good vibe so far. Obviously, it's

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<v Speaker 2>always hard to see some of your favorite players go

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<v Speaker 2>to other teams. I mean, that's that's been a challenge,

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I think in terms of just being

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<v Speaker 2>in a good spot, the vibe has been good. We're

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<v Speaker 2>building this team the right way. We're very excited to

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<v Speaker 2>get started up next week with our players coming back,

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<v Speaker 2>and we think the future is extremely bright.

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<v Speaker 14>Eric, given the fact that there has been some depth

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<v Speaker 14>that has left to building this offseason. Having more draft

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<v Speaker 14>picks this year, could this rookie draft class be primed.

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<v Speaker 7>For bigger roles.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's no question. I mean, opportunities what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we'll have some opportunities, for sure. There's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be some spots that can be filled, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's the burden is on me to find those players

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<v Speaker 2>who can fill it and fill it with winning football.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've got the coaches and support staff to put

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<v Speaker 2>them in position to succeed. But we've got to find

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<v Speaker 2>the players that have the right makeup and the right

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<v Speaker 2>ability to actually perform and do that.

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