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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Ravens Press Pass podcast. It is Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: April ninth. Today, the Ravens held their annual pre draft

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Speaker 1: press conference with head coach John Harbaugh and general manager

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Speaker 1: Eric to Costam. They talked about some of the moves

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Speaker 1: of the offseason, their strategy going into this draft, and

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Speaker 1: how they're building this roster to compete for a championship

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. There's a lot of good insight

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Speaker 1: from them, So let's go ahead and jump into that press.

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Speaker 2: All right, everyone, Well, thanks for coming. We are in

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Speaker 2: the literally in the middle of draft meetings. We started

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Speaker 2: yesterday with our coaches. We took an early break today

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Speaker 2: so we can come down here and grace you out

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Speaker 2: with our appearance and we'll get started back at one

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Speaker 2: point fifteen. We'll probably finish our draft meetings sometime on

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Speaker 2: Friday afternoon or Saturday morning, and at that point the

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Speaker 2: board will be pretty much set. We'll have a few

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Speaker 2: days the week of the draft to just kind of

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Speaker 2: tweak things little bit based on workouts and some additional

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Speaker 2: interviews that we conduct, but I think by the end

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Speaker 2: of this week we'll be in very good shape to

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Speaker 2: figure out who we're going to draft at pick thirty questions, Eric,

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Speaker 2: with three.

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Speaker 3: Starters calling on the offensive line, how much do you

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Speaker 3: think the draft will be used to address some of

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Speaker 3: those those horses.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I certainly think it's a big factor

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Speaker 2: for us in terms of team building this year. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we spent the entire day yesterday, just to give you

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Speaker 2: an idea, all of yesterday, starting at nine o'clock in

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Speaker 2: the morning to six o'clock at night, was spent on

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Speaker 2: the offensive line. And that's not necessarily because it's a

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Speaker 2: big priority for us as much as the volume of

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Speaker 2: players at those positions this year took us a long

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Speaker 2: time to cover through all those players and go through

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Speaker 2: all the information and get them ranked. So it's a

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Speaker 2: very deep pool of players. We see a lot of

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Speaker 2: different opportunities in different rounds to get players to tackle, guard,

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Speaker 4: Okay, Eric, how pleased were you to be able to

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Speaker 4: sign Kyle Vannoy last week? And you just look at

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Speaker 4: the outside lineback position.

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Speaker 5: You guys do have quite a few young guys first, second,

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Speaker 4: Where do you think you are just at that position

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Speaker 2: Get closer to the season, Well, first, we were very

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Speaker 2: excited to bring Kyle back. You know, it was a

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Speaker 2: great experience for us last year with Kyle, and I

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Speaker 2: think Kyle would say the same. He's certainly a player

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Speaker 2: that helped us quite a bit. Love his mentality, leadership,

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Speaker 2: physicality that he brings, versatility as a player. I think

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Speaker 2: it's great to have a veteran in the room. And

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Speaker 2: we do have a lot of younger guys. We have

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Speaker 2: a lot of younger guys that we think have a

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Speaker 2: lot of potential, and we would expect those guys to

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Speaker 2: resetir potential this year. We're very excited about really all

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Speaker 2: those young players and we've seen some quality play. We've

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Speaker 6: Deepsiness Tramp as far as age rush goes, and how

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Speaker 6: is it difficult to sort to see how you're the

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Speaker 2: Oh Man, Well, I think it's a it's an average draft.

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Speaker 2: I would say, uh for edge pass rushers, certainly some

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Speaker 2: guys at the top. For us, we've had success throughout

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Speaker 2: the years and finding some guys in the mill rounds

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Speaker 2: that have been good players for us, you know, and

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Speaker 2: it just it really depends on what you're looking for.

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Speaker 2: You've got your speed rushers, your power guys, guys that

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Speaker 2: can do both, Guys that have to play a three

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Speaker 2: Uh So, a lot of it has to do with

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Speaker 2: this your fit and what you're looking for. Our coaches

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Speaker 2: play a big part in that in their evaluation. Chuck

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Speaker 2: Smith does a really really good job evaluating pass rushers

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Speaker 2: and certainly some guys at the top that probably won't

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Speaker 7: Right now? Is that the number that you want to

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Speaker 1: And I guess as part of that, how much value

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Speaker 1: you put on the fifth year option, you know, in

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Speaker 2: The city, you know all altern of trade that, well,

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Speaker 2: it's great to have additional picks, you certainly have to

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Speaker 2: have players that you cover it and that you want

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Speaker 2: a draft, and so that's always a factor with every draft.

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Speaker 2: And you could have fifteen picks, and sometimes you're there

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Speaker 2: and at the end of the draft and you're looking

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Speaker 2: that aren't any better than the players you have in

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Speaker 2: your roster, those picks really don't help you very much.

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Speaker 2: So I like the idea have more picks, but I

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Speaker 2: want to have more picks in a specific range I

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Speaker 2: As far as the fifth year goes, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: there is an advantage of having an extra year if

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Speaker 2: you want that extra year. So all things being equal,

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Speaker 2: if you trade out of the first round, I think

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Speaker 2: that to give up that additional year or speaking of.

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Speaker 8: The fifth year option. About a month away from the

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Speaker 8: fift decision you anticipating and taking either of those up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're about a month away from that decision, right,

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Speaker 2: So that's probably when we'll make that decision, I would think.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, we'll have more to say about

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Speaker 4: Eric, we've been here a year.

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Speaker 9: After years, the two of the plus Joe brties, there's

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Speaker 10: How has his absence effected that you.

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Speaker 7: Think it's brave?

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Speaker 2: Well, there's definitely more leg room up here, probably more

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Speaker 2: Now it's it's been a different it's been a change

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Speaker 2: for me. Definitely. I missed Joe. I missed his personality.

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Speaker 2: Joe's a great evaluator and so first and foremost for me,

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Speaker 2: the comfort that I would have with Joe saying, hey, Joe,

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Speaker 2: George Cokenis, David Blackburn. Our coaches do a great job,

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Speaker 2: so we definitely have guys who can pick up the slack.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about it today coming in. I think

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Speaker 2: this is my twentieth year running the draft. I think

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Speaker 2: my first year was two thousand and five, two thousand

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Speaker 2: crazy to think that you know everything that goes into

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Speaker 2: we have certainly have people who can step up and

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Speaker 11: Eric, what are the challenges that come with picking this

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Speaker 11: late in the draft? You guys have the thirtieth pick,

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Speaker 11: kind of have to let the board play itself out.

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Speaker 2: And feels like, yeah, you know, I don't see any

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Speaker 2: you know, it's just having the players that you really

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Speaker 2: You're picking twenty eighth or thirtieth, you might only have

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Speaker 2: so for us, it's just like you just hope and

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Speaker 2: we have some additional value associated with that. But in

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Speaker 12: What's it been like for you two in terms of

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Speaker 13: Your staff about the fix, and in terms of also

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Speaker 13: how the commonbine and the interviewing process has gone. Have

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Speaker 9: It's draft there.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's just a part of it, you know, Jerry,

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Speaker 2: I think one thing I learned from Ozzie and watching

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Speaker 2: you work together, you discuss you know. I love my

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Speaker 2: That's one of the very biggest joys of this job

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Speaker 2: for me day to day. And you know, we disagree

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Speaker 2: sometimes John and I we disagree, but I think we

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Speaker 2: And for me, that's one of the most rewarding aspects

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Speaker 9: John.

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Speaker 14: There's so much attention of offensive line and who could

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Speaker 14: you draft. I know you don't you like these who

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Speaker 14: were comfortable, But are there internal young options now that

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Speaker 14: ready to step in and be starting offensive lineman.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, It's going to be competitive. There's going to be

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Speaker 6: a competition for those spots. I mean, the best whoever

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Speaker 6: it's the player who plays the best you know, and

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Speaker 6: you could have been the best player five years ago,

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Speaker 6: but you're not the best player now. So every day

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Speaker 6: you go out to practice, every game you play, there's

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Speaker 6: an accumulated, established aspect of it. But right now we're

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Speaker 6: a little more open. So those guys that you're talking

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Speaker 6: and we'll just see who does it. But I think

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Speaker 6: those guys are ready to compete and do well, and

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Speaker 6: they'll be in here Monday. Can't wait to see them.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be great to see those guys in here Monday,

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Speaker 6: working hard. See what happens here.

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Speaker 15: Hary, we kind of a.

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Speaker 14: Related no air last year you jumped back and grabbed

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Speaker 2: Definitely in the top you know, quarter of all the

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Speaker 2: You know, I think this this past year is we

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Speaker 9: Eric, how relevant is it there with less SEUs You

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Speaker 2: We've proven that, We've shown that. That's started with Ozzie

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Speaker 2: Chances are we're not gonna draft the quarterback, but all

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Speaker 6: When we're round o'clock, Eric, in terms of evaluate with

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Speaker 10: Or the skill sets are what they are and that's

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question, and I would say this,

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Speaker 6: I feel like you're trying to get You're trying to

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Speaker 2: Well. First, I think you know, Trenton is going to

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Speaker 2: The draft. We've looked at some guys, definitely some talent

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Speaker 5: Along those same lenes, running backs probably haven't been primary

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Speaker 2: I think so, I mean, you know, I think it

440
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 2: was an interesting dynamic this year in free agency. You

441
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 2: saw whatever it was, maybe nine or ten guys get

442
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,679
Speaker 2: signed in the first day a free agency, and I

443
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 2: think part of that was probably you know, how people

444
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 2: looked at this running back class in the draft. There's

445
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:28,160
Speaker 2: no like top tier first round necessarily type talents this year.

446
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 2: That being said, there's a lot of guys. If you're

447
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 2: looking at the prospects in the second, third, and fourth round,

448
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 2: there's a lot of those guys, particularly third, fourth, fifth

449
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 2: round clumps. So we've looked at those guys very closely.

450
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 2: We're excited about some of those players. You know, there's

451
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,919
Speaker 2: probably a pretty strong chance we will draft a running

452
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 2: back at some point, you know, round obviously to be determined,

453
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 2: but we do think there's a chance for us to

454
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 2: get a good young player who can help us in

455
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 2: different ways as a running back, in the passing game,

456
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Speaker 2: and also on special teams.

457
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 12: I think, Eric, and if you guys are one game

458
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 12: away from the super Bowl, your made some acquisition, you

459
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 12: retain some players. The prayers are going around in the

460
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 12: NFL a lot all in, Ravens all in as far

461
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 12: as twenty.

462
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: Twenty four, Well, I'd like to think, Jay, we're always

463
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: all in. You know, in this business, if you're not

464
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 2: all in, then you're all out as far as I'm concerned.

465
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 2: So we're going to be in every single year. And

466
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,239
Speaker 2: I that's what John expects, That's what I expect, That's

467
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 2: what Steve expects, and I think that's what our fans expect.

468
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 2: So I think you know you should expect that too, Jerry.

469
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Speaker 15: Eric.

470
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Speaker 2: When you do lose, you know, it's a very type

471
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 2: of players.

472
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Speaker 3: That you lost in free agency, but it was about

473
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 3: a dozen players in free agency.

474
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 10: How do you view where this team though, is because

475
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 10: you're here here in terms like retooling, you know, reloading

476
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 10: where you know, as a guy that's building this team,

477
00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 10: where do you kind of feel what kind of description say.

478
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 3: That the team is right there.

479
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 2: Well, we're in the same place as we were last

480
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 2: year at this time. I mean, go back and look

481
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 2: at what some of you wrote last year and see

482
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 2: how we ended up. Right, We have a lot of

483
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 2: time to make moves. A lot of these players that

484
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 2: we lost excellent players. A lot of these guys were

485
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 2: quite in August, right, some of these guys were quite

486
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 2: in September. So you know, we're still building and a

487
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 2: big part of that is going to be through the draft,

488
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: which is why we're all here today. But there's a

489
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: lot of different opportunities along the way to add players.

490
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 2: We've traded for players, We've drafted players, we signed guys

491
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 2: unrestricted free agents, we signed guys street players who have

492
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 2: made it. We've worked guys out. George Cokeenis and Mark

493
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 2: Assevador do a phenomenal job bringing players in. Our coaches

494
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: do a great job working guys out, giving us a

495
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 2: chance to find guys like I mentioned them again, Ronald Darby,

496
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 2: you know those type of players, Arthur Mollett, players like that.

497
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,479
Speaker 2: So I think we're just really getting started, you know,

498
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 2: and a big part of that is certainly going to

499
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: be the draft. But the destination is September, not May.

500
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 11: To that point, Where does that philosophy kind of come

501
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 11: from being able to kind of wait until Like you

502
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 11: mentioned signing guys in all of these in the case

503
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 11: of Anoid, that was after the season, and these guys,

504
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 11: you know, a lot of these guys have panted out

505
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 11: and some of them are at premium positioned. Where does

506
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 11: I guess the patients and that philosophy come from to

507
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 11: kind of wait until that time of the year.

508
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 2: Well, Number one, I'm not a patient person. I've learned

509
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 2: from Ozzie, who is extremely patient, to be more patient.

510
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's a philosophy necessarily as much

511
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: as the opportunity. So I look at every single year

512
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: as being different. Every opportunity is different, every situation might

513
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 2: be different. But we've got to be able to pounce

514
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: when there is an opportunity that we think is beneficial

515
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 2: to the club. And so whether that's doing something in

516
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 2: March or April or May, or September or November, we're

517
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: going to do that given the parameters of the situation

518
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: and where we are at as a team at that time.

519
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 7: Not a lot of underclassmen in this year's draft pool.

520
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 7: How is that kind of affecting how you looking Day

521
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 7: three and you guys feel like you're do enough homework.

522
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 7: Look at next year's draft pools. Maybe side we don't

523
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 7: put the libra we are let's say sixth rounds. Maybe

524
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 7: look at possibly into next year pool.

525
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. There are less juniors this year,

526
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: you know, I think guys for whatever reason, I think

527
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,719
Speaker 2: because of COVID partly and because of NIL. You know,

528
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: this whole draft landscape has changed. There's less players in

529
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: the draft this year. There's less probably draftable players this

530
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 2: year on our board, less juniors, less underclassmen, and so yeah,

531
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: I think it is. And we've talked about doing this.

532
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: We haven't done it as much as maybe I'd like

533
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: to do it. Potentially. We've talked about the idea as

534
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 2: you get into the later rounds of the draft, if

535
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 2: there's nobody there that you cover it potentially trading that

536
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 2: pick for a better pick. You know, that's one of

537
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 2: the nuances of the draft. And you trade a pick

538
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 2: in a given round for next year's pick, you get

539
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 2: the benefit of increased value. So if you trade a

540
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 2: fifth round pick this year, you get a fourth round

541
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: pick hypothetically next year. That discount is actually, if you

542
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: think about it, it only makes sense because the picks

543
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: a year away. But a pick is a pick, so

544
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 2: it's hard to wrap your fingers around the idea that

545
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 2: you get more for next year's pick. You would know

546
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: the pick is worth whatever it's worth, so but there

547
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: is an opportunity there, and some teams do it pretty well.

548
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: We always tend to look at the board and see

549
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: players that we like that we cover it, and we

550
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: haven't done it quite as much. We've done it a

551
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: couple of times, but that's always an interesting thing. I

552
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 2: think Steve would love us to do that. He's excited

553
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: about that. His idea would be not to give anything away.

554
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: But he has what he calls the Bishatti Reign of terror,

555
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: and that would basically be that you trade a seventh

556
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 2: round pick and any given year for a sixth round

557
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,719
Speaker 2: pick next year, and then take that sixth round pick

558
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: and trade for five, and then trade that five for four,

559
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: and so like in seven or eight years you have

560
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 2: a first round pick. And we've always talked about that,

561
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: but we never get to that.

562
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 15: Points have worked in that AFL history.

563
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: That's why it's called the Bashatti Reign of Terror.

564
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 15: It's unique if you anticipate any moves being made over

565
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 15: the next couple of weeks that could impact your prominent

566
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 15: needs heading.

567
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 10: Into the draft.

568
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: Oh man, you never know, Jeff, You just never know.

569
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 2: I mean, just depends if the phone rings, maybe there

570
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: is a move to be made. If there's a player

571
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 2: that a coach comes in and says this guy's really good,

572
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 2: or George comes in or whatever it might be, then

573
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: we could make a move. I think in general, you know,

574
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 2: Kyle was one of the last things on my checklist

575
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: trying to get that done because I think he checked

576
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 2: off a lot of different boxes for US veteran presence

577
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: on defense, multiple roles on defense, you know, just a

578
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,239
Speaker 2: good solid player for US position where we could use

579
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: some depth. So, uh, you know, I don't know that

580
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: we'll do a lot in the next couple of weeks

581
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 2: other than really kind of polished the board up and

582
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: get ready for the process.

583
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 4: Eric Analytics has become such a part of you know,

584
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 4: not just the game, but this process and going back

585
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 4: in a handful of years or so, but probably when

586
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: it sort of started to blossom. Curious like how that's

587
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: shaped your philosophy when it you know, when it comes

588
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 4: to draft picks and so forth, and is there maybe

589
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 4: examples where it's swayed you and a guy or a

590
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 4: direction that sort of thing.

591
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, it's a tool. It's a tool that

592
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: we use like anything else. It's a part of the process,

593
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: evaluation process. We've got some really skilled people upstairs who

594
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: help in a lot of different ways. I think we

595
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 2: have so much information now that processing the information and

596
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: organized the information I think is extremely important and critical

597
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: in the end. In my opinion. Now I'm an old

598
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: school guy, it still comes down to turning the TV

599
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 2: on and watching the player over and over and over

600
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: and over again until you know exactly what he is.

601
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: And you know, I think that's a really important part

602
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 2: of the scouting process and that will always remain a

603
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: very important part of the scouting process.

604
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 11: John I know you guys brought back to Charles Johnson

605
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 11: to be the backup quarterback. You still have only cutting Ham.

606
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 11: We saw him play a little wide receiver on the

607
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 11: back end of the season. Is the plan still to

608
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 11: develop him as a quarterback? Order is in a transition?

609
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good question. I think it remains to

610
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 6: be seen. You know, we're going to take a look

611
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 6: at him and see how he does and just get

612
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 6: to know him better and evaluate him. He's definitely developmental

613
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 6: as a quarterback. He's developmental as a wide receiver too.

614
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 6: But he's a good athlete. He's a good person, he's

615
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 6: a competitive guy. He wants to do well. Kind of

616
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 6: just I was just thinking listening to the questions back

617
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 6: about the team and the parts and all that and

618
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 6: the math of the whole thing, and I think it's

619
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 6: really interesting and good to look at the parts, like

620
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 6: you say, Okay, they lost this many guys, Yeah, I

621
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 6: just made guys are not gonna be as good as

622
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 6: a team, you know, and or how they're gonna fill

623
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 6: these pieces. And that's kind of a math equation. But

624
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 6: in the end, it's not just about the parts. It's

625
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 6: about the sum of the parts, you know. It's this,

626
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 6: can the some be greater than the parts? And it's

627
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 6: how you put the parts together and how you piece

628
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 6: them together. So the process is it's about getting the

629
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 6: best players you can. And I do agree, you know,

630
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,239
Speaker 6: they say it's not about the ex's and no's, it's

631
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 6: about the Jimmies and Joe's that's real clever and it rhymes.

632
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 6: But it really is about more than just the Jimmies

633
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 6: and the Joe's too. It's how the Jimmy's and the

634
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 6: Joe's fit together, and how they're piece together, and how

635
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 6: you build the schemes and how you build the whole machine.

636
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 6: So we've got the parts, but we're also building the

637
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 6: whole machine, you know, and we've done that in the

638
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 6: last three months with our scheme. You do that with

639
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 6: your culture, with your work ethic, with your character, type

640
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 6: of people you bring into your program, what type of

641
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 6: vision you have, what type of identity you're gonna have

642
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 6: as a football team. All those things go into it,

643
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 6: and it's not just a math equation. At the end

644
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 6: of the year. Like Eric said, these same questions we're

645
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 6: being asked last year, they were being asked a year before,

646
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 6: and year before that, year before that, and year before that,

647
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 6: all the way back. Every year it's the same questions,

648
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 6: and it's kind of a rolling type of a thing.

649
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 6: Some years you're gonna lose more free agents, but you're

650
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 6: gonna pick up more compensatory picks than two years from now.

651
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 6: You're gonna have more picks in the draft you're gonna

652
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 6: get younger, and you're gonna have younger players you cost less,

653
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 6: but you're gonna have to pay the guys that turn

654
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 6: out to be great players that you want to keep

655
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Speaker 6: as many as you can. So that ongoing process is

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Speaker 6: part of this whole big picture, and the goal is

657
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Speaker 6: to be in all in to the question every single

658
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Speaker 6: year as best as you can be. You can't just be, oh,

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Speaker 6: we're gonna we're gonna put all chips on the table

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Speaker 6: this year. Next year we're gonna fold and not play

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Speaker 6: any games. No, we're gonna try to win the championship

662
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Speaker 6: every single year as many games as we can. And

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Speaker 6: it's the sum of the parts that we put together

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Speaker 6: and what we build around those guys and go out

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Speaker 6: there and play on Sundays and lay it all out there,

666
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Speaker 6: you know, and with a bunch of fans yelling and

667
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Speaker 6: screaming in the background to support your football team. That's

668
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Speaker 6: what we're all about. That's what football is. It's not

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Speaker 6: just a math equation. It's more than that, and that's

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Speaker 6: what makes it so exciting and so interesting. And we're

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Speaker 6: gonna have a heck of a team next year. You wait,

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Speaker 6: you watch, you wait, and see what we do.

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Speaker 8: What positions in this draft do you fe'll have more

674
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Speaker 8: value in depth for days two and three?

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Speaker 2: I think offensive line is pretty stacked across the board

676
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Speaker 2: in most rounds. I think receiver is a is a

677
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: really deep draft this year. You know, those would be

678
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Speaker 2: two I think, you know I mentioned running back. I

679
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: think that you'll see a lot of running backs get drafted,

680
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: probably starting in the third round. You know, through the

681
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: seventh you'll see a lot of guys get picked. You know,

682
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: those would beat positions that when I look at the

683
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: assess the draft I think are pretty deep positions in

684
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Speaker 2: the draft this year.

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Speaker 9: Sharon, how do you like the new well the kick

686
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Speaker 9: off and also the challenges of teaching tackling you when

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Speaker 9: you posted to hit drop at it now?

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Speaker 6: Any uh Yeah, as far as the new kickoff FRO,

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Speaker 6: I love the the kickoff returns and be back in

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Speaker 6: the game. You know, I'm kind of on records saying,

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Speaker 6: you know, I wish they would have looked at a

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Speaker 6: couple of other things before taking the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 6: O of the kickoff kickoff for turn play, because you know,

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Speaker 6: the onside kicks and all that are are still pretty cool.

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Speaker 6: And they had already taken the wedges out and the

696
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 6: double teams out. You know, if you create some space

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00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 6: for the kickoff return team to operate, maybe that would

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00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 6: have slowed the kickoff team down. That was a theory.

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Speaker 6: But they went all in with this new rule, and

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Speaker 6: I'd rather have this than what we had in the

701
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Speaker 6: pass where they were going all in for fair catches.

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Speaker 6: That was you know, we were never in favor of that.

703
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 6: So I think Roger really wanted to kickoff for turn

704
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 6: back in the game, and that's good. That's a good thing.

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Speaker 6: As far as the hip drop tackle, the challenge of tackling,

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Speaker 6: I don't I don't even understand the question. I mean,

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Speaker 6: the hip drop tackle. When did you ever hear about

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00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 6: the hip drop tackle until like two years ago, three

709
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 6: years ago. Right, that's because it was discovered, probably in

710
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 6: rugby and started being executed as a standalone technique. It's

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00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 6: a three part movement. You've got to execute that play.

712
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 6: You gotta be close enough to that ball carry to

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Speaker 6: actually get him around the hip, all right, pull him

714
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Speaker 6: close to yourself, swing your hips through and drop on

715
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Speaker 6: the back of his legs. If you're that close, wrap

716
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Speaker 6: him up and tackle him and take him to the

717
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 6: ground like where you used to do and everybody did

718
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 6: for one hundred years before that. But you're talking about

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Speaker 6: a tackle that the ball carrier has no method of

720
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Speaker 6: escape from. He can't escape, so when you drop down

721
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Speaker 6: on the back of his legs, it's a mass and

722
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Speaker 6: it's twenty five times more likely to have a serious injury.

723
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Speaker 6: So it's really a bad play and it needed to

724
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Speaker 6: be out And guys are gonna tackle just fine without

725
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 6: the quote unquote hip drop tackle because they tackled just

726
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 6: fine without it for one hundred years of football before

727
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 6: that when you never saw it. Really, So that's my

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Speaker 6: answer to that.

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Speaker 7: Eric.

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Speaker 3: With offensive liven, there's gonna be maybe a few offensive

731
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Speaker 3: Lien prospects that could fall to the bottom first film

732
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Speaker 3: because they don't have as much starting experience as some

733
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Speaker 3: of the other guys that are taking around.

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Speaker 10: How difficult and what's kind of the challenge to project,

735
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Speaker 10: especially offensivelive and when they need not have as much

736
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Speaker 10: game film game tape as some of the other guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always a challenge at any position, you know,

738
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Speaker 2: lack of production, whether that's catchers, tackles, interceptions, ball plays,

739
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: stars As an offensive line, and that's always you know,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, those are one of the greatest challenges

741
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 2: is that the other one might be you know, level

742
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: of competition is a big challenge too, I think as

743
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Speaker 2: an evaluator, so those are things you just fight through

744
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: and you'll watch, you talk to people, you assess, you

745
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: watch the workouts. I think in some cases, you know,

746
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: positional workouts are very very important. You know, you go

747
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: back and you'll watch as much tape as you can.

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00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 2: Maybe that means you have to go back to other

749
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 2: years and watch a guy play as well, talk to people,

750
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: talk to coaches and things. But it's definitely a challenge Jamison,

751
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: for sure.

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Speaker 4: Horrible.

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Speaker 2: Eric.

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Speaker 12: Last year at the draft you announced the Lamar Jackson

755
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Speaker 12: contract extension.

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Speaker 2: Does going into this year's draft feel a little bit

757
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 2: lighter now that you don't have to drop any big

758
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 2: news on drap by you feel a little bit more

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00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: clear how to going into it? Well right now? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean it's it's been great, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: John and.

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Speaker 6: I there's still plenty of time for stuff to happen.

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Speaker 2: John and I were down the last week down and

764
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 2: at the owner's meetings in the pool, hanging out. You know,

765
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: drinking champagne cocktails, you know, getting some suns. So you know,

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00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 2: it's it's been a good vibe so far. Obviously, it's

767
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: always hard to see some of your favorite players go

768
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 2: to other teams. I mean, that's that's been a challenge,

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Speaker 2: But you know, I think in terms of just being

770
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 2: in a good spot, the vibe has been good. We're

771
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Speaker 2: building this team the right way. We're very excited to

772
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Speaker 2: get started up next week with our players coming back,

773
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Speaker 2: and we think the future is extremely bright.

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Speaker 14: Eric, given the fact that there has been some depth

775
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Speaker 14: that has left to building this offseason. Having more draft

776
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Speaker 14: picks this year, could this rookie draft class be primed.

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Speaker 7: For bigger roles.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's no question. I mean, opportunities what it's all about.

779
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: And so we'll have some opportunities, for sure. There's gonna

780
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 2: be some spots that can be filled, and I think

781
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: it's the burden is on me to find those players

782
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: who can fill it and fill it with winning football.

783
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: And we've got the coaches and support staff to put

784
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 2: them in position to succeed. But we've got to find

785
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: the players that have the right makeup and the right

786
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: ability to actually perform and do that.

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