1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff production of I Heart Radio. Hey 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: brain Stuff, Lauren vocal bamb here unless you are living 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: under the sort of rock that does not get WiFi. 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: In eleven you've probably heard of the honey badger biological 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: classification at Melavora capensis. That year, a YouTube video went 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: viral featuring a collage of national geographic footage showing honey 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: badgers eating snakes, running backwards, and chasing jackals, with explet 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: of written narration featuring the refrain honey badger, don't care. 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: It's now been viewed over nine one million times, and 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift has admitted to being able to recite the 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: entire video by heart. And although the honey badger has 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: established a lasting place in Internet culture because of this 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: three minute comedy bit, its celebrity may make us think 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: we know more about this strange, solitary animal than we 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: actually do. The truth is honey badgers aren't well understood 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: because they're extremely difficult to study. We spoke with Derek 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: vonder Merva with the Endantured Wildlife Trust in South Africa. 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: He said, how honey badgers became famous in America is incredible. 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: We get so many calls from Americans wanting to come 20 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: film them because of the famous YouTube clip. They don't 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: realize how difficult it is to film a honey badger 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: because they're very intelligent, A lot of them forage at night, 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: and they have extremely big home ranges, some of them 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: up to five hundred square kilometers that's three square miles. 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: Honey Badgers are more closely related to a weasel than 26 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: a European badger, and they don't actually eat honey, though 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: their weakness for beehives and the tasty bee larva within 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: often gets them in trouble with humans. They live in 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: a wide range of habitats, from forests to deserts, but 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: mostly hang out in dry areas in Africa, Southwest Asia, 31 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: and India. Honey Badgers have become synonymous with aggression and ferocity. 32 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: Guinness World Records has named them the world's most fearless creature, 33 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: to the point that particularly tenacious professional athletes sometimes earn 34 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: honey badger as a nickname. They the honey badger animal 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: not The athletes have a reputation for being nearly indestructible, 36 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: but the truth is they're short, just about eleven inches 37 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: at shoulder height, which is about twenty eight anometers and 38 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: not very fast, so they're sometimes attacked and killed by 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: bigger predators. But for a honey badger, the best form 40 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: of defense is attack. Vonder Mareva said. Their thick skin 41 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: is loose, so loose, in fact, that they can almost 42 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: turn around completely within it. If an animal bites the 43 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: honey badger on the back, it can turn around and 44 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: bite the animal right back. They have long claws on 45 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: their front feet that they use for digging, but which 46 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: they use for fighting as well. Inexperienced predators a young leopard, lion, 47 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: or hyena, for instance, might try to attack a honey 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: badger once, but they'll never try it again after the 49 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: first time. Honey Badgers often tangle of venomous snakes, but 50 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: one misconception is that they are naturally immune to venom. 51 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: While it's true they eat a lot of venomous animals, 52 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: their immunity needs to be developed over time. How honey 53 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: badgers acquire this immunity is not well studied or understood. 54 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: But mother honey badgers spend a long time raising each 55 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: pub fourteen to eighteen months, and as the baby grows, 56 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: it seems it's mom slowly introduces it to venomous animals, 57 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: starting with the mildest scorpion and moving up the venom 58 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: ladder until the youngsters eating cobras and puff adders. Another 59 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: thing we get wrong about honey badgers is that we 60 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: think they're like skunks because they bear a physical resemblance 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: in their fur pattern. Skunks spray a strong, unpleasant smelling 62 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: liquid at their attackers to gross them out and get 63 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: them away. And while it's true that honey badgers do 64 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: store a revolting smelling substance in their anal pouch and 65 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: they occasionally release it when they're in a life threatening situation, 66 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: they don't weaponize it the way skunks do. It's more 67 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: a panic button than a threat, though it's still something 68 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: you don't want to get on you because that stench lingers. 69 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: When honey badgers were first described in South Africa, they 70 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: were often found in bees nests, apparently feeding on honey, 71 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: hence the common name. But it turns out that they 72 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: were really interested in the bee brood, the nutritious lava 73 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: found in the honeycomb. Mondamreva said. In South Africa, the 74 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: honey badger was listed as near threatened in the early 75 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: two thousand's beekeepers were killing them because they were causing 76 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of damage to the 77 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: beekeeping industry. Breaking into hives. Not only do they destroy 78 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: the hive itself, the beekeeper loses honey and the swarm 79 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: of bees. It's actually quite a lot of money. Some 80 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: badgers just learned to live off sacking beehives, and they 81 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: were being persecuted for it. But over the past two 82 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: decades the relationship between badger and human has gotten better. 83 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: Vondermirva explained what we did in South Africa is start 84 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: raising the hives off the ground by one point one 85 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: meters or three point six feet, or strapping them together 86 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: or two tires on the ground. This prevents the honey 87 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: badgers rolling the hives, which is how they access them. 88 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: In the early two thousand's, half the beekeepers we surveyed 89 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: admitted to deliberately killing honey badgers because they were costing 90 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: them so much money. Since we've come up with these 91 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: methods for preventing the badgers from accessing the hives, beekeepers 92 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: are no longer killing them, and we've noticed an increase 93 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: in numbers and in range in some areas. They've since 94 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: been downgraded to a species of Least Concern, which is 95 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: great news because even though they've got terrible personalities, honey 96 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: badgers are good for ecosystems they live in because they're 97 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: not as fast as other predators. They'll dig rodents out 98 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: of burrows but miscatching them, thus providing food for birds 99 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: of prey and jack goals, which often follow a honey 100 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: badger around waiting to catch the honey badger's intended prey. 101 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: It's okay, though the honey badger don't care. Today's episode 102 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: was written by Dave Ruse and produced by Tyler Clang. 103 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: Brain Stuff is a production of I Heart Radio's How 104 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: Stuff Works. 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