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Speaker 1: And lastly, is it time for Mitch McConnell to go

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Speaker 2: Alisa, happy to be on Hope. You're doing well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. So, Senator, it looks like the border deal

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I think you need to start

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Speaker 2: But first of all, they may be true. So maybe

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Speaker 1: Well, you know. And also Ukraine is a history of corruption,

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that took any heat, but oh.

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Speaker 1: Well, she did say she was proud of Jacob Blake,

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Speaker 1: I feel like yesterday's conspiracy theory is tomorrow's truth. They

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Speaker 2: you know, sudden adult death syndrome. Mean famous people, And

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Speaker 2: what drives me nuts is the news meat report on this,

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Speaker 2: and they never asked the question, like, well, when they

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Speaker 2: get their last booster, they're not doing autopsies. If they

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Speaker 2: do optopsies, they're not standing for spike protein. Again, collectively,

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Speaker 2: the medical establishment, public health officials, they don't want to know,

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Speaker 2: and they're hunting things as well. I mean, I've written

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Speaker 2: close to sixty oversight letters having something to do with

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Speaker 2: COVID or the vaccines. I just get the middle finger

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Speaker 2: from the agencies. But some of those, you know, I

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Speaker 2: write about hot lots, which are almost indisputable. There's been

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Speaker 2: more information on dosing available. I came up with calculation

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Speaker 2: which is also being verified by others, but about twenty

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Speaker 2: five point one desks per million doses of the COVID vaccine.

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Speaker 2: You compare that to the flu, it's about point four

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Speaker 2: to six, So it's a fifty five fold increase of

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Speaker 2: desks per million doses in COVID. But oh, nothing to

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Speaker 2: see here. Thirty seven desks world War thirty seven thousand

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Speaker 2: desks worldwide. Twenty four point four percent of those report

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Speaker 2: on veys occurred on day zero, one or two after vaccination. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I realized vayors doesn't prove causation, but man, that's correlation

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Speaker 2: that ought to concern everybody. But I think I think

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Speaker 2: more people are have their eyes open. There's you know,

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Speaker 2: the very low uptake of more mr NA of vaccines

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Speaker 2: I think kind of proves that people are highly suspicious

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Speaker 2: of this. But our federal health agencies, I mean, I'm

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Speaker 2: still hearing you know, ad advertisements paid for by the

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Speaker 2: American tax But I'm sure on your radio shows that

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Speaker 2: kind of stuff pushing you'll get your booster, get your booster,

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Speaker 2: and we're just not we're not looking at the science.

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Speaker 2: You know. It's what we're not following the science at all,

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Speaker 2: that we're not recognizing that science has been thoroughly corrupted.

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Speaker 2: But I think more people are opening up their eyes.

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Speaker 2: My eyes have been opened wide.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I appreciate that you've been such a bold voice.

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Speaker 1: I know you've taken you know, a lot of heat.

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Speaker 1: As we were kind of joking around earlier, but you

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Speaker 1: sincerely have. Unfortunately, you were able to win reelection, you know,

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Speaker 1: even after really talking about things that people did not want.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about you know, as we head into election,

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Speaker 1: this presidential election, what should Republicans make this election cycle about.

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Speaker 2: Well, we cannot lose sight of the border. It is

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Speaker 2: our top priority. You know, I'm arguing, arguing strenuously inside

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Speaker 2: the conference is you know, yeah, I mean, this bill

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Speaker 2: that McConnell engineered is awful. It's got to be killed,

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Speaker 2: but we can we need to continue to fight to

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Speaker 2: secure the board. That's what the American people expect. You

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Speaker 2: can't give up that fight just because an awful process

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Speaker 2: produced an awful bill. Now let's go back to square

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Speaker 2: one and let's make the public case. So you know,

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Speaker 2: the border is certainly President Biden's I think, worst vulnerability.

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Speaker 2: But man, I mean the fact that Dally held to

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Speaker 2: start of the bid adminstrations worth eighty five cents. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: inflation rates are down, but that damage has already been done.

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Speaker 2: You know, there war on fossil fuels, you know, the

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Speaker 2: embarrassing and dangers surrendered in Afghanistan, which has emboldened our

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Speaker 2: adversaries around the world. You know, prompted or certainly encouraged

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Speaker 2: Putin to invade Ukraine. I mean there was in flames

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Speaker 2: because of American weakness, because of Democrat governance. So to me,

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Speaker 2: it's don't focus on Biden so much as just Democrat governance.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're all they're all voting for and supporting

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Speaker 2: things that are putting America on a path of destruction.

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Speaker 2: But in terms of winning elections, first of all, we

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Speaker 2: need to unify, uh, stop engaging in circular fire squads.

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Speaker 2: And I realized that's, you know, maybe a little tough

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Speaker 2: coming for me, as I've been obviously highly critical of

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Speaker 2: Leader McConnell. But we just can't we can't tolerate that

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Speaker 2: kind of leadership that that is, that is so utterly failing,

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Speaker 2: that just isn't rising to the challenge of pushing back

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Speaker 2: against this destruction that Democrats are are wreaking on our country.

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Speaker 2: So we need better leadership. But you know, within the grassroots,

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Speaker 2: you know, embrace people that agree with you seventy eighty

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Speaker 2: percent of the time. You know, there should be purity tests,

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Speaker 2: and we need to focus on grassroots, grassroots, grassroots, Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, neighbors, talking to neighbors, friends, families, you know,

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Speaker 2: people with their eyes open, that are getting educated, that

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Speaker 2: are understanding of the destructive nature of Democrat governance and

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Speaker 2: banding together and coming out in droves and just giving

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Speaker 2: Democrats a real thumping, teach them hopefully once and for all,

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Speaker 2: you know, get them out of out of these positions.

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Speaker 2: Allowed Republicans to gain control with a Republican president, and

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Speaker 2: then hold Republicans accountable, you know, starting with let's make

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Speaker 2: sure we've got good leadership.

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Speaker 1: No, I agree, yeah, And you know, now Ronald McDaniel

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Speaker 1: is stepping down, so hopefully we can get someone in

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Speaker 1: there that you know, is going to get the job

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Speaker 1: done than the past failed elections that we've seen under

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Speaker 1: her watch. Senator ron Johnson, it's always an honor to

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Speaker 1: have you on the show. Really appreciate you making the

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Speaker 1: time and just bringing all this information to light into

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 2: Let me make just one point, yes, please do sir.

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Speaker 2: I remember Pat Toomey would often talk about Pennsylvania as

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and Philadelphia with Alabama in between. You know a

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Speaker 2: lot of states are like that way. Wisconsin is. You've

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Speaker 2: got Madison, You've got Milwaukee, you have other pockets of liberalism.

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Speaker 2: By and large, it's a red state. The problem is

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Speaker 2: all those red counties are the rural areas. So it's

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Speaker 2: so much easier for Democrats to go mind votes in

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Speaker 2: a few big cities, you know, energize them on you know,

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Speaker 2: an issue like abortion, which is what they've done effectively

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Speaker 2: in Wisconsin. Republicans have to go fight for every vote

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Speaker 2: in every little small town throughout the states, throughout America.

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Speaker 2: So it is a much more difficult task. And we

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Speaker 2: don't have the billionaires because our billionaires get attacked, they

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Speaker 2: get docked, you know, left doing billionaires can you know,

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Speaker 2: funnel money through the internet. You take a look at

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Speaker 2: you know, the smurfing that's occurring through Act Blue, which

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Speaker 2: the FEC will not tell us whether or not they're

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Speaker 2: investigating it or not. But bottom line is, understand, Democrats

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Speaker 2: have such an easier task. They've got the media with them,

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Speaker 2: they have all the federal agencies that you know, Biden

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Speaker 2: is weaponizing to help turn out their their base. We've

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Speaker 2: got a significant task. So the last thing we can

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Speaker 2: tolerate is disunity. We need to understand we're not we're

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Speaker 2: not each other's enemies. Our political opponent are the Democrats

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Speaker 2: who are destroying the station, and we've got a band together,

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Speaker 2: and we've got a fight, and we've got to win

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Speaker 2: the elections.

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Speaker 1: I I one hundred percent agrease are and I hope

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Speaker 1: we get it done because I don't even want to

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Speaker 1: know what this country would look like with another four

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Speaker 1: years of Biden or Kamala or whoever else they're thinking

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Speaker 1: about replacing him with.

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Speaker 2: So at some point it's unrecoverable. As remind people, you know,

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Speaker 2: venez U Whalens voted themselves into poverty in a couple decades.

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Speaker 2: They did it to themselves. We're doing it to ourselves

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. We'll pray for our country. Senator

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Speaker 1: Ron Johnson, it's always an honor, sir.

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Speaker 2: Take care and stay well.

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Speaker 1: That was Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin. Always loved having

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Speaker 1: him on the show. He's so interesting. Appreciate him making

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Speaker 1: the time. Appreciate you guys at home for listening every

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Speaker 1: Monday and Thursday, but of course you can listen throughout

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Speaker 1: the week. What do I think John Cassio and my

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Speaker 1: producer for putting the show together. Until next time,