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Speaker 1: Nicole Hutchison and Bradsham.

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Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, Welcome, Welcome, It's the Middle Light Cowboys Hour,

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Speaker 2: and according to our regulars from the Victory Monday Club,

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Speaker 2: it is the look ahead to Victory Monday Fan Club night. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so that's what we're doing here. Thank you for being here,

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Speaker 2: those of you who come out to side Car Social

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Speaker 2: always a great place to spend our Monday evening. I

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Speaker 2: have mentioned in recent weeks that this is our regular

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Speaker 2: in the reasonably near future. Next week will be one

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Speaker 2: of those because next week the Cowboys will be playing

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Speaker 2: on Monday Night against the Arizona Cardinals. But Nicole and

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Speaker 2: I will be here on Tuesday night next week, and

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Speaker 2: then not to When I do this to Babel Offenberg,

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Speaker 2: he just gives me a look and says, just give

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday night. We will be here on Monday night

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Speaker 2: of the bye week, even though there's no game that week.

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Speaker 2: We will be here on Monday night of the bye week,

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Speaker 3: Of the bye week. But we come out of the

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Speaker 3: bye week with another Monday night game. Yeah, in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I will be there.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, talk your way into it. I will, I will try, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Try, and then we'll be here on Tuesday night after that,

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Speaker 2: so you see what I'm doing. And then, just not

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Speaker 2: do a show on that Monday night. It's very convoluted

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Speaker 3: Of it, but some of it is still being made up, so.

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Speaker 4: Just trust me.

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Speaker 2: Next week, Tuesday night, we're delighted to have those of

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Speaker 2: is going to be our special guest tonight. Very exciting

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Speaker 2: young player, fan favorite. Stuck in traffic, he can do

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Speaker 2: a he can maneuver around tackles, he can maneuver around

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Speaker 2: are happy as always to welcome those of you who

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Speaker 3: Hi, how you doing? What were we talking about last

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Speaker 3: week that you.

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Speaker 4: Were going to do a show on.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna get there.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna get there.

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Speaker 5: I think he wants to do that when they get

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Speaker 3: After a win, after a win. But when are you

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Speaker 2: Oh no, oh gosh, I can't wait for this. Okay,

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Speaker 2: And when is the what? What game were you supposed

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Speaker 2: All right, James Houston's on his way. He'll be here shortly.

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Speaker 2: As you know, if you have heard us or been

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Speaker 2: How do your duties become affected On a Monday after

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Speaker 2: I did not hear or see that your podcast this morning.

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Speaker 2: You can go back and watch that podcast now on

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Speaker 7: Absolutely. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: They'll go up and find out on their own, but

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Speaker 4: That's fair enough.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you tell us who else is bringing us

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Speaker 2: Everybody got their feelings hurt yesterday, but the only serious

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Speaker 4: Here's James Houston. Say hi to James Houston. Appreciate you, man,

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Speaker 4: You appreciate you. So don't just take a deep breath.

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Speaker 4: A big part of your life.

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Speaker 2: Fan favorite, James Houston, the Cowboys Defensive end is with

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: We are on the Miller Like Cowboys Hour at the

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Speaker 2: and we are just absolutely delighted to welcome in Cowboys defensive.

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Speaker 2: Your side of the ball has been really up and down.

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Speaker 2: People get frustrated. Nobody gets more frustrated than you, guys.

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Speaker 9: That was Jackson State. Yeah, that was Jackson State. I

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Speaker 4: Okay, get that's good something to live up to. All right.

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Speaker 2: But James, we loved everything you did. I think the

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Speaker 9: I kind of like flipped it to, like, Okay, let

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Speaker 4: Sorry, So.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, how fired up are you at that point?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 9: So me personally, I've never had a losing season at football,

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Speaker 2: Nine and eight, right, which means you which means you

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Speaker 9: No, No, they kept grinding, right, it's a long season

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you that the.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a long season.

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Speaker 7: Oh in every quarter.

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Speaker 9: And if you kind of put it like that, you know,

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Speaker 9: Until you get to November and December, that's that's when

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Speaker 9: And so I think it's just about hearing your shot,

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Speaker 2: All right, now, hold on, we're not done yet. You're

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Speaker 2: still I'm sorry, but I'm really going somewhere. You're you're

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Speaker 7: It is the Thanksgiving game? Is the game? Now?

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Speaker 4: Besides, they're one and six.

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Speaker 2: His his actual playing season, his rookie year, did not

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Speaker 4: Right, how many sacks did you finish with?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 4: What drove you there?

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Speaker 9: I think just everything kind of had you set in

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 9: I also determined to be great and be on the

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Speaker 2: Right now, I'm not going to say you're an old

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Speaker 4: And then I'll let you talk problem.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, as far as the rookies, like, you really got

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Speaker 9: It's not all of that. It's a long season. It's

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Speaker 7: So, uh, just.

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Speaker 9: You gotta build off of that, you know. And so

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Speaker 9: I think he's doing a great job. As far as Donovan,

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Speaker 7: I want to get back to you.

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Speaker 5: You're on practice squad, and some people, some guys on

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Speaker 8: You?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Man, I'm from South Florida. I don't know. I'm from

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Speaker 9: Nobody gonna tell, you know, you know, like you gotta

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Speaker 9: get it. And I feel like being a three star

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Speaker 7: To college, you know, like it was just.

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Speaker 9: I've had so many obstacles and so many tribulations. It's

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Speaker 7: Right and later on, I don't know, but I know

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Speaker 5: And after eight sex, at what moment did you finally say,

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Speaker 7: Like in the second games? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 9: was like, man, this is crazy, Like that was I

445
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Speaker 9: kind of I did so much. It did something special.

446
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 9: I broke like info records and stuff like that. So

447
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 9: that was like, I was, Okay, that was pretty special

448
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 9: what I did, like, and I really wanted to recreate it,

449
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 9: and I know I can. I know I have the

450
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Speaker 9: ability to do everything that I did. It's just opportunity,

451
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 9: you know, opportunity to sell y'all.

452
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Speaker 4: So now we're here we go. You've proved it. And

453
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 4: I know Dan Campbell loved you. Yeah, I know he did.

454
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 4: I know Aaron Glenn loved you.

455
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

456
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, here we go year two.

457
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Speaker 2: The course is set, You're on your way, and you

458
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Speaker 2: broke your life.

459
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Speaker 4: Yeap, yes, early in the year, right.

460
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Speaker 7: Second game of the season. Yeah, Yeah, it was real.

461
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 9: Tough because you know, like I said, I kind of

462
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Speaker 9: want to continue what I was doing on the sack

463
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Speaker 9: sack records that I was holding, and uh, I just

464
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 9: felt like, you know, I was kind of in the back,

465
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Speaker 9: in the back front of kind of whatever whatever they

466
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 9: were feeling, what the defense was.

467
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Speaker 7: You know, in the beginning of the season.

468
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Speaker 9: Things changed and I felt like I was starting to

469
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Speaker 9: come towards that starting spot that I was earned.

470
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Speaker 7: That was that was earning.

471
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Speaker 9: And uh, you know, like I heard, football, it's one

472
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Speaker 9: hundred percent injury rates, So you know you're gonna get hurt,

473
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Speaker 9: and so it's all about you know, how you how

474
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Speaker 9: you come back from.

475
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Speaker 7: That, how you come back from everything. Though obviously that's

476
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Speaker 7: that's the whole story.

477
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Speaker 9: You know, it's gonna be stuff that's gonna stop you,

478
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 9: but uh, it's it's what's in your heart that's gonna

479
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Speaker 9: make you continue to go.

480
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Speaker 7: What kept you going. I love the game. I love

481
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Speaker 7: the game.

482
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Speaker 4: There's a problem.

483
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I love the game.

484
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Speaker 9: And like I said, I talked to a lord a lot,

485
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Speaker 9: and I know this is my path right now. I

486
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 9: know this is the path that I'm on the spread

487
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Speaker 9: his message. And whenever I'm done with this, I'll be done,

488
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 9: you know, and I'll figure out some other thing that

489
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Speaker 9: I love and that the Lord has put in my

490
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Speaker 9: place to do great things.

491
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Speaker 3: So all right.

492
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Speaker 2: And last so that then you were with Detroit last

493
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Speaker 2: year yep, And did you were on Cleveland's practice squad

494
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Speaker 2: for a minute.

495
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Speaker 9: So I was on Cleveland's active for six weeks. So

496
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 9: I got cut I think week twelve, same week that

497
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Speaker 9: I joined the active.

498
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Speaker 7: At the only later.

499
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, right, so got cut there. Cleveland picked me up

500
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Speaker 9: on Thanksgiving. I had to take all my stuff. My

501
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 9: peoples came all the way up to Detroit. They cooked

502
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Speaker 9: dinner and everything. We had to take all the food.

503
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 9: We drove to Cleveland and yeah, yeah, it was It's crazy, man.

504
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 9: That's the NFL, though, so you know anything.

505
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Speaker 7: Ye'ah took all the food, took the food. I think

506
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 7: it was like maybe a two to two hour drive

507
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 7: could have been worse. Yeah, it's not crazy for all right.

508
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Speaker 4: So now Cleveland didn't re sign.

509
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Speaker 7: You, no, Yeah.

510
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: And so you will go through the off season leading

511
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Speaker 2: to this year without a team, yep, and you're doing

512
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 2: what physically and mentally, Oh.

513
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Speaker 7: I'm grinding.

514
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 9: When they say grinding like it's it's uh, it's like

515
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 9: in the darkness like grinding, and uh, it was me

516
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 9: and my trainer, man system made.

517
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 7: We was grinding, bro.

518
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 9: We was grinding real hard every day, two three two

519
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 9: three workouts to day. I was pushing myself to crazy limits.

520
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 9: And I just I knew, like the NFL, Bro, they

521
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,239
Speaker 9: say it's not for long. And I know, like, if

522
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 9: they don't want you here, like you won't be in

523
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 9: the league. And so it don't matter how good you is.

524
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 9: You've seen plenty of players and you're like, man, what

525
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 9: happened to him? Like he was just and it's like

526
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 9: it's it's just the cars ain't fall right and you

527
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 9: didn't continue to you know what I'm saying, show your hands.

528
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 7: So I know, I just knew I had to put

529
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 7: my best foot forward.

530
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 9: And whatever I knew, I was gonna get a shot

531
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Speaker 9: where it was a work at something.

532
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 7: I knew I was gonna get something.

533
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 9: And so whatever I was gonna get, I was gonna

534
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 9: look like, how was he on the street, Like we

535
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 9: need him right now walk us.

536
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 5: Through those crazy limits. I want to know.

537
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Speaker 9: I'm intrigued in the morning, you know, so chat GPT

538
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 9: Chat GPT has done a lot for me. I'm not

539
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 9: gonna lie, especially as far as training, like and like

540
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 9: health and everything like eating. Yeah, like so I put

541
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 9: in CHAT GPT like as far as like nutrition and

542
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 9: vitamins and everything. So I was following that kind of

543
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 9: routine a good schedule. But in the morning we would run,

544
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 9: you know, run a lot. We would do different type

545
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 9: of runners, but like we were running lot in the morning.

546
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 9: Then after the run would lift and then i'd either

547
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 9: have a position drill where I'd go do d line

548
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 9: work down in Miami, or I'd go do I was

549
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 9: doing a lot of like defensive back work in the

550
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 9: off season because I played line, so I try to

551
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 9: kind of like keep up with it a little bit

552
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 9: just in case I'm asked to do a little something.

553
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 9: So I was doing that every day, like six days

554
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 9: out of the week and going to a nan to

555
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 9: training with my pastor's trainer. Just anything that I could

556
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 9: do because I was free, and it was like I

557
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 9: wasn't I didn't have to learn plays, I didn't have

558
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 9: to be in a facility, so I was like, I'm

559
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 9: gonna just do anything that I can. And yeah, some days,

560
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 9: you know, I was cramping up and I had to

561
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 9: go get a IV you know, like it was just

562
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 9: like I was trying to just do as much.

563
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 4: By the way, you're not with a team on their plans.

564
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 4: So that's your nickel.

565
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's all my dime. Everything is all my dime.

566
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 7: But I know, you know, you gotta give it. You

567
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 7: got to give in to get so all right.

568
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: H So we've gotten James from starting his professional football

569
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Speaker 2: path right to the lip of the cup of getting here,

570
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: and we've got to finish that.

571
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 4: And then we got to go back and.

572
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Speaker 2: Get him in through high school where he was a problem,

573
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: you know, and into college. And you see the path

574
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: and you see now why we wanted to have James

575
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Speaker 2: Houston on this show. Thank you very much for being

576
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Speaker 2: with us. James Houston's our guest, Nicole. Who else is

577
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Speaker 2: making this lovely work possible?

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Speaker 4: We'll be right back with James Houston on the Cowboys Hour.

585
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Speaker 10: I don't know us.

586
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Speaker 1: Now to the Miller like Cowboys Hour supported by Albertsons.

587
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Speaker 4: Welcome back.

588
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: We're a sidecars social in the Star District at Frisco.

589
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm Brad Sham with Nicole Hutchinson our very special guest

590
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: Cowboys defensive end James Houston, and we are so.

591
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 4: Happy to have James with us.

592
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: Thank you again for coming out, especially after a game

593
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: like yesterday, everybody wasn't okay. So now that we're friends now,

594
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: I will ask you just this one thing. You're you're

595
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: especially your side of the ball. You're on such a

596
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: short leave right now. Yeah, so when you when you

597
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: lined up offside, did you just want to look for

598
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Speaker 2: a hole?

599
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 7: My goodness? What?

600
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Speaker 9: And it's like everybody, it's not like you don't know. No, yeah, no,

601
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 9: I mean obviously it happens. Yeah. I got to the

602
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 9: sideline and everybody's like, bro, it's trying to yell at you,

603
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 9: Like I'm like, bro, I was locked in, Like it

604
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 9: didn't I didn't feel like I was offside. Coach you

605
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 9: know obviously told me, you know I can't do that,

606
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 9: you know whatever, whatever, And yeah, like I was kind

607
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 9: of in my head for maybe like ten twenty minutes, like, man, like,

608
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 9: I really messed up. That was a critical third down,

609
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 9: like they ended up scoring on the drive like we

610
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 9: could have, you know, really had some good momentum getting

611
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 9: off on the field on third down.

612
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 7: There, and uh so I was just really like, man, like,

613
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 7: I messed up. I missed up.

614
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 9: I missed up, and uh you know, like a good

615
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 9: vet does. Clini comes and he's like, change, forget about that. Man,

616
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 9: you're good man. You're gonna make up for it. Whatever whatever,

617
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 9: Get that look off your face because I told them

618
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 9: I don't want to see no looks on you'all face

619
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 9: this game with.

620
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 7: The with the air and broncos I don't.

621
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 9: Care about none of that, Like, let's go. And so

622
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 9: he's like, nah, you're the same one who told us

623
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 9: don't have that look.

624
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 7: So I was like, all right, I'm back in it

625
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 7: and forget about it. Let's go.

626
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: You know, I've been having this conversation with some friends

627
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: of mine, the older I get, and it's moving to.

628
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 4: A pretty good clip.

629
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Speaker 2: There are things that I don't think I was taught

630
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: growing up that would have been very valuable to learn,

631
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: and one of them is it's okay to make a mistake.

632
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: I mean, because it's gonna happen right now, you don't.

633
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: It might not be good for job security if you

634
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: do that all the time. But so but there are kids,

635
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: let's thing and something here.

636
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 4: So what's your coaching point?

637
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: When you you're you We've already heard you say you

638
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: were in your head.

639
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 4: But when you go in you line up, what are

640
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 4: you looking at? Where?

641
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: Where to make sure that you're not lining up off side?

642
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: What's your focal point?

643
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 7: I look at the ball.

644
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 9: That's what I'm focused on, So usually I would know,

645
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 9: you know, if I'm too far ahead or not. Sometimes

646
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 9: you know, their helmet is a little bit round her,

647
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 9: so it can be leaning over. But I try to

648
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 9: just judge it because I'm off I'm all the way

649
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 9: on the edge and usually i'm wide, so the angle

650
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 9: could be a little bit messed up. So sometimes I

651
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 9: look at it d tackles. I try to kind of

652
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 9: match up my feet with theirs, and I'm a leaner,

653
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 9: so I kind of lean a lot. Uh So I

654
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 9: just try my hardest, you know, to try to try

655
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 9: to be as close as I can, but try not

656
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 9: to be off side. I feel like in the NFL,

657
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 9: you gotta take any inch that you can.

658
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 7: You know, it's the best of the best athletes.

659
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 9: Like, if you're not trying to almost cheat, then you

660
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 9: ain't trying, you know.

661
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 7: So yeah, I love well.

662
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Speaker 5: Since we're all friends here, I guess I can ask

663
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 5: this too.

664
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Speaker 9: I mean, how do you you're.

665
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Speaker 4: Gonna go watch out because there's a dagger?

666
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Speaker 5: What's the ultimate key to cleaning up penalties? Because I

667
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 5: mean you have the Sam Williams penalty as well a

668
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 5: lot of prena penalties as whole, but that's been like

669
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Speaker 5: the theme for the season.

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Speaker 7: How do you clean that up? I think it's a mindset.

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Speaker 9: I know we're a very aggressive team and sometimes that

672
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Speaker 9: brings a lot of penalties, but the priest snape penalties,

673
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 9: those are all fixable, like all fixable, lining up over

674
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Speaker 9: like off sides in the beginning before the play even starts,

675
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Speaker 9: that that you can fix that. And so I think

676
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Speaker 9: it's just attention to detail, being dialed into all the details,

677
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 9: focusing on the moment and not trying to make anything up,

678
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Speaker 9: not trying to go outside of the space, just focusing

679
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Speaker 9: on your moment and execut me And just to.

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Speaker 4: Be fair, I don't have the numbers in front of me,

681
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Speaker 4: I keep them.

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Speaker 2: By I'm here, But I don't remember your number being

683
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Speaker 2: called very many times by the referee this year, Am

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Speaker 2: I right?

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Speaker 9: No, I've had I got a holding penalty on special

686
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Speaker 9: teams week three or four.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 9: It was very ticky, tacky, and I wouldn't have said

689
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 9: it was holding, but yeah, no, I try to stay

690
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Speaker 9: penalty clean.

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Speaker 2: So that's so you had two penalties. Yeah, yeah, Okay,

692
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Speaker 2: Well if you go through the year with four penalties

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Speaker 2: that it'll be pretty good. All right, let's let's get

694
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Speaker 2: you to Dallas, shall we. We've got you working out,

695
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Speaker 2: We've got you paying for your own ivs, got you.

696
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 8: Doing all that.

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Speaker 2: So, uh, you got called before training camp, as.

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Speaker 7: I recall, the day before training camp starts.

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Speaker 4: And so how who who called? And what they called?

700
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Speaker 4: Your agent?

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Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, And what what news did you get?

702
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Speaker 2: And what were you to just take us through it?

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Speaker 9: So I had just came from Atlanta, where I had

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Speaker 9: cramped up and worked out and had to get on

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Speaker 9: a flight, and I was really prepared. I had like

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Speaker 9: two or three other workouts set up other places, so

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Speaker 9: I was ready to come home and kind of get

708
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Speaker 9: ready for those.

709
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Speaker 7: My agent calls me.

710
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Speaker 9: Before I get on the plane and he says, you

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Speaker 9: have a workout. Dallas wants to work you out. They

712
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Speaker 9: got you in before all your other workouts. They want

713
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Speaker 9: to see you first. So I'm like, all right, cool,

714
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Speaker 9: Like Dallas had interested me in the draft, like very

715
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 9: good spot. I've been down there, a great city, good organization.

716
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 9: Like cool, let's go, and I'm just like, this is

717
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 9: my first opportunity. So I'm like all right, cool, Like

718
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Speaker 9: but I'm knowing I got like three or four more,

719
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Speaker 9: but I'm like I know this, like whatever I'm going first,

720
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Speaker 9: that's like I'm gonna make sure they know, like, okay,

721
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Speaker 9: we got to keep them. And so yeah, that's basically

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Speaker 9: what it was. They called me out there, got out

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Speaker 9: there day before.

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Speaker 7: It's like four other dns and uh, I mean, not

725
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Speaker 7: to be cocky, but I look the best. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So then, but so you made the team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you didn't make fifty three that day,

728
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 2: but you know, it's kind of like that feeling, right, Yeah.

729
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: And then as well as you performed during training camp,

730
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Speaker 2: since it wasn't your first road, did.

731
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Speaker 4: You have any doubts when it came down to cut down?

732
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Speaker 4: Were you concerned nervous.

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Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, of course a guy coming right before

734
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Speaker 9: camp as a tryout, and you probably don't see them

735
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Speaker 9: making the team too many times. So I knew again

736
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 9: it was gonna be an upfield battle. But I knew

737
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Speaker 9: what I brought to the table and all the work

738
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Speaker 9: that I had put in. I wasn't gonna just accept it,

739
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 9: you know, except, Okay, I'm in this situation where most

740
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 9: people don't get to.

741
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Speaker 7: Where they want to get to.

742
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Speaker 9: I'm gonna get I'm gonna get to where I need

743
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Speaker 9: to get to, and I'm gonna do more than that.

744
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Speaker 7: And so yeah, it was just a lot of hard work,

745
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 7: just the same.

746
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Speaker 9: How I was doing right before I got there, grinding

747
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 9: before or after, staying in the meetings and just trying

748
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Speaker 9: to do as much as I could.

749
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Speaker 7: To show my worth.

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Speaker 5: What was the most difficult challenge coming in and trying

751
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Speaker 5: to establish yourself. Remember you came in the day before

752
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Speaker 5: training camp, So what was the most difficult challenge?

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Speaker 9: I think just knowing all these guys had been and

754
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 9: they all were cool. Everybody knows each other, clapping each

755
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 9: other up, they know all the plays, you know, like

756
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 9: they know the coaches. Just a brand new coaching staff,

757
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 9: but they know all the coaches they you know, so

758
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 9: it's like, oh man, I missed out on the kind

759
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 9: of a big part, but I have to still come

760
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 9: in and start hot because if I don't, then it's

761
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Speaker 9: I'm just gonna get thrown to the backside. And so yeah,

762
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 9: every day I just was like, I gotta show out,

763
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 9: like I gotta show up, like they gotta see me

764
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 9: on the film and the feedback I was getting they

765
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 9: said I was and so I was just like, I

766
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 9: gotta continue to do it, continue to do it every day.

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Speaker 7: And so yeah, it's.

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Speaker 9: Probably just you know, just the camaraderie was really just

769
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Speaker 9: like the biggest like oh man, like and it made

770
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Speaker 9: me like, Okay, I gotta get out of my shell too.

771
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 9: I have to open up and try to meet everybody

772
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Speaker 9: on the team. Like I can't just say I'm just

773
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Speaker 9: going to try to make the team and not care

774
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Speaker 9: about nobody else.

775
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 7: I gotta I gotta to be in the team.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, do you feel like that sometimes gives you

777
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 5: an edge a little bit because you don't necessarily have

778
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 5: the my brother is on competing against them every day.

779
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 7: But that's a good that's actually a good thought. And

780
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 7: that maybe could push you a.

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Speaker 9: Little bit because it's like you, but I mean camp

782
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 9: as an NFL player, you know, like you gotta take

783
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 9: a grown man's job. It's a vet or or somebody

784
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 9: that gotta feed their family or their children or whatever,

785
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 9: and you gotta say, nah, like this is my job

786
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 9: and it's tough, but.

787
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Speaker 7: Take your yeah right exactly, Nicole.

788
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 4: Who leaves the Cowboys in sacks right now?

789
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Speaker 7: This guy James.

790
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: Houston leads the Cowboys in sacks before we take our

791
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: next break. So I know you'd like to be on

792
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 2: the field more. There's everybody with a Twitter account wants

793
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: you on the field more.

794
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: I know that. Do you think it's lack of.

795
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: Familiarity with the coaching staff that has that? Do you

796
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: think it's your size because you're they made you a

797
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 2: defensive end at Jackson, but your body still screams linebackers yeah?

798
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 2: Or I mean, do you need to be playing better

799
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: against the run or do you need to play more

800
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,479
Speaker 2: to be better?

801
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 4: What run me through all that?

802
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 7: It's not really my.

803
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 4: It's not.

804
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 7: Me personally.

805
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Speaker 9: I mean, I know I have what's what's capable in

806
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 9: me to to play an NFL game and start the

807
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 9: whole game. But like you said, it's scheme, familiarity, just

808
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 9: what the coach wants to do. It's it's not high

809
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 9: school anymore. So it's not like I can just tell

810
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 9: them like I coach put me in like so, you know,

811
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 9: it's a it's a lot of different business and business

812
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 9: things that goes on as well. So I just try

813
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 9: to blind all that stuff out and whatever opportunities that

814
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 9: I'm giving, execute them to the highest possibility. Like if

815
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 9: I get one play, I need to get a sack,

816
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 9: you know. So that's just kind of how my mindset

817
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 9: is so dowed in because if you in the NFL,

818
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 9: if you think about all this other stuff, if you

819
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 9: go on Twitter and try to oh yeah they they

820
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 9: they they fit my bias, it's like you're gonna be

821
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 9: so messed up. It's it's gonna you're gonna be thrown

822
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 9: for a whirlwind because one day, you know.

823
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Speaker 7: Not to say anything about that.

824
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 9: One day y'all love us, you know, and the next

825
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 9: day I'm offsides and it's man fire.

826
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 7: And James Houston get them off my field.

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Speaker 9: You know. So it's like I understand it, you know,

828
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 9: as a fan, especially because I do the same thing

829
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 9: I'm watching basketball.

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00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 7: My team is the heat. I see somebody make a

831
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 7: file or do.

832
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 9: Something mad, get him out, like you know, it's like

833
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 9: it's just as a fan, and so I just try

834
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 9: to execute my job.

835
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Speaker 2: And because you mean, because you know I've watched you,

836
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: I know you we've talked, and so calling the play

837
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: when they said your number, I just said, and I

838
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: said this live on there, I said, oh, James, James, James.

839
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Speaker 4: Which is what you were saying to yourself at the

840
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Speaker 4: very least. James Houston's our guest.

841
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Speaker 2: We're gonna take our last break and be back with

842
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: the Cowboys Defensive End on the Cowboys Hour.

843
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Speaker 4: I'll take lands.

844
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 8: Cowboys.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, h m hm, no cowbaws, no cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Us Live supported by Albertson's.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Cowboys Hour.

848
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Speaker 2: It's the Miller Like Cowboys Hour at Sidecar Social at

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Speaker 2: the Star District in Frisco. Brad Sham, Nicole Hutchinson and

850
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: our very special guest, Cowboys Defensive End, James Houston.

851
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 4: What was you probably know better than me.

852
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: What was the thing about where it was a road

853
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: game and his name was up and they said.

854
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 5: His name wrong on the broadcast or.

855
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 4: Something, and then on television.

856
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, not yours, not of course, not.

857
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 4: You, but yeah, how hard is James Houston?

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00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know they called him. I don't remember

859
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 5: who they called him.

860
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 4: But then do you know what it was? I think

861
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 4: it was Dante, they called you Fowler.

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00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, oh, I'm sorry, No, I'm but yeah, I know.

863
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 5: And then I think they brought a picture over or

864
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 5: something like that, and Peron goes, that's James.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which that was going around the locker room.

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00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: Man, that's James Houston. That was the first one. One

867
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: more thing about the start to your Cowboys career are

868
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: you Are you surprised by the degree of success you've

869
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: had statistically? Are you frustrated by the number of snaps?

870
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Speaker 4: How are you handling the whole thing?

871
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 9: No, I'm just extremely excited to be a cowboy, surely

872
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 9: excited to just go through his journey with them. But

873
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 9: as far as my goals, I'm not hitting them right now.

874
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 9: I would like to hit him a little bit harder

875
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 9: as far as sacks, but I'm on a journey and

876
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 9: it's uh, it's a long season. Like we said, you

877
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 9: have a lot more games. I'm sure y'all seen Miles

878
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 9: Garrett get five sacks in the game.

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Speaker 4: So they lost.

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00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, right exactly, And that's that's everything in the NFL.

881
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 7: Anything happened. And so.

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00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 9: I just continue to just you know, chip chip at

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00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 9: that wood, man, Just continue to just chip at the

884
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 9: wood and just do as much as I can. The

885
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 9: opportunities are going to come when you have success. So

886
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 9: continue to have success, and more opportunities will come.

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Speaker 4: So let's take some questions from our audience. Please, Hello, James,

888
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 4: how are you name? Rambo?

889
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 11: So this is actually not a question, but I wanted

890
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 11: to share something with you. So my son, he plays

891
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 11: seventh grade football. He's a he's a defensive end. So

892
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 11: we went to open camp for the first time that

893
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 11: was open to the public when you all came back

894
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 11: from Oxnart. So when you talked about your hustle, I

895
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 11: can honestly say I saw it firsthand, because after everybody

896
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 11: was inside the tunnel after practice, you're the only player

897
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 11: there still working out on the field. On top of that,

898
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Speaker 11: I said, Nolan, look at his hustle.

899
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Speaker 4: And then on.

900
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Speaker 11: Top of that, as we watched every single game and

901
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 11: you got the announcers mentioning your name, I said, what

902
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 11: did I tell you that he's hustling. So I wanted

903
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 11: to share that with you.

904
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 12: That man, I love that because my dad he used

905
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 12: to do that all the time, you know, like pouring

906
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 12: out a player and like look at him, like look

907
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 12: at him, Look how much effort he's given, Like look

908
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 12: at everything that he's doing.

909
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Speaker 7: Like this is not easy.

910
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 9: It's not as easy as just watching and just looking

911
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 9: to see who get the ball, you know. And so

912
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Speaker 9: now I appreciate that because it's going to take a

913
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Speaker 9: lot of hustle and effort to get wherever he wants

914
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 9: to get to, whether it's football or life.

915
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Speaker 7: And so now I appreciate that. That's that's great, man.

916
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Speaker 4: Thank you.

917
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: I do want to I do want to start get

918
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Speaker 2: start your career at least in college.

919
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Speaker 4: You tore up your knee in high school.

920
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 9: Yeah, uh tour my aco left a co right before

921
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 9: the season.

922
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Speaker 7: Start senior year in high school.

923
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Speaker 9: Three star, just got like forty offers the year before,

924
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Speaker 9: talking to Alabama about to go to the Army Senior Bowl.

925
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was tough. It was real tough. Yep.

926
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Speaker 9: My senior year yep, because my junior year was really

927
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 9: my only year playing on varsity. So that was my

928
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 9: first year getting real film, and I ended up getting

929
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Speaker 9: forty offers, and so I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm a

930
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 9: thirty I'm gonna be a four star. Maybe I wanted to,

931
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Speaker 9: you know, possibly go to Alabama or get an Alabama offer.

932
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 7: And so I was just I was hungry.

933
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 9: I was real hungry, and everything just kind of stopped,

934
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 9: and uh, you know, those calls stopped coming, and I'm

935
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 9: trying to reach out to coaches, and so, uh, Florida

936
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 9: they stuck by me. They stuck by me all the way,

937
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 9: and uh, they was willing to, you know, help with

938
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Speaker 9: the rehab, help with everything. I ended up earlier and

939
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 9: rolling up there, and so I got to do rehab there,

940
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 9: got to be with the guys.

941
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Speaker 7: So it was. It was pretty good.

942
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Speaker 2: And graduated, as I mentioned, right, which is gradulations. Uh,

943
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: and then you got, uh, you still got eligibility left

944
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Speaker 2: after you graduated, and you chose to join Dion Sanders

945
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 2: first class at Jackson State.

946
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 4: I'm sure he must have had a little something to

947
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 4: do with that. Oh of course, So tell us about that.

948
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 9: So I actually had a player that was at Florida,

949
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 9: Jonathan Huggins, and he went to Jackson State so he

950
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 9: was there. He was telling me, you know, I see

951
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 9: you're in the portal Dion's.

952
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 7: He told me to reach out to see if you

953
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Speaker 7: got some interest.

954
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 9: And at that point I was like, I mean I

955
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 9: got interested in anybody who let's let's see.

956
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,959
Speaker 7: What's going on. And talked to him on the phone.

957
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 9: I was like, all right, cool. It seemed like a

958
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 9: good guy. He's got a good plan. I loved the story.

959
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 9: I was like, all right, I can take this a

960
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 9: little bit more serious. I ended up talking to the

961
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Speaker 9: linebackers coach.

962
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Speaker 13: Uh.

963
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Speaker 9: He worked with Dion for a long time and he

964
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 9: was a really good dude, great dude, and I just

965
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 9: you would talk on the phone a lot, and so

966
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 9: I was like, all right, I'll give him a shot.

967
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 9: Ended up taking a visit out there, and I fell

968
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 9: in love. I don't even know what it was because

969
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 9: Jackson is super small, but the people.

970
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Speaker 7: I fell in love with the people. Man it was.

971
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 7: It was just a great place to be.

972
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Speaker 9: And I feel like God really drove that choice for

973
00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 9: me because I had you know, SEC and PAC twelve

974
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 9: and ACC. I had all of that, but I just

975
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 9: wanted to do something a little different. My whole family

976
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:09,959
Speaker 9: had gone to HBCUs as well.

977
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 7: As I mentioned her, my sister went to Howard.

978
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 9: So every literally everybody in my family like immediate cousins,

979
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 9: uncles and uh an everybody. So I wanted that experience.

980
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 9: But you know, playing football it's hard. You know, you

981
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 9: probably don't think you're ever gonna get in. And I

982
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 9: saw this as an opportunity, great place, great coach, great leader,

983
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 9: and great just uh great like thought process of what

984
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 9: kind of what they wanted to do, and I was

985
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 9: all in on it, bringing back the HBCUs. Let's let's

986
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 9: uplip our people and our programs and something that you

987
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 9: know needs a highlight on it.

988
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 7: And so well you.

989
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 4: Gave them that.

990
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you gave that, because that's where you became

991
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 2: the problem.

992
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 7: Yep.

993
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 4: Let's take another question over here.

994
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 13: Hey, James McKitty, I want to first start off with

995
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 13: one thing Asshaw does not like to hear is a

996
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 13: problems the opposing teams are saying, we have a problem,

997
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 13: all right. My question is that, going back a couple

998
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 13: of games, when all the legends were out in the

999
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 13: field two weeks ago, did you have any opportunity to

1000
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 13: speak in any of them and what did they offer you.

1001
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 7: I didn't have a chance to speak to any of them.

1002
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 9: You know them were I know a few of them,

1003
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 9: I know if you know, Charles Haley comes around all

1004
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 9: the time. I believe Toland was there, you know, Roger

1005
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 9: Starback was there.

1006
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 7: Yeah. No, I saw a lot of the guys.

1007
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 8: I was not.

1008
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 7: I was not the biggest Cowboys fan growing up.

1009
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 8: I was.

1010
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 9: I was a Chiefs fan, So y'all was a little

1011
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 9: bit just out of my realm.

1012
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 7: But I do. I've seen every day. I see all

1013
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 7: of the photos and the legend.

1014
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 9: And the history, and it's a lot of history, and

1015
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 9: it's a lot of I'm sure it's with that with

1016
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 9: the prime video coming out to just all that, all

1017
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 9: that history and the tiny detail of the stuff. It's special, man,

1018
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 9: And you could tell like they had a special time here,

1019
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 9: and it's it's still there, you know, the the atmosphere

1020
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 9: is still there. So you gotta you gotta continue to

1021
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 9: feed off of that because whatever is there is still there,

1022
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 9: is still in the grass.

1023
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 5: So are there some guys, some legends that you kind

1024
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 5: of have that relationship with so or someone that you

1025
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 5: kind of lean on.

1026
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 7: No, I don't. I don't know any of the any

1027
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 7: of them personally.

1028
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 4: Well, we won't say his name.

1029
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: And you might have been the one to tell him.

1030
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 4: No, No, it wasn't you. It was Christie Scales who

1031
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 4: told me there's a rookie. Uh who.

1032
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: Christy had to tell him who Roger Stalbach was and

1033
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: he wasn't sure.

1034
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 4: And I don't want to mention his name.

1035
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 9: Rookies are born in two thousand and three.

1036
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 4: Now, thank you there, I'm well aware.

1037
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: What's your message to fans who are down after yesterday's.

1038
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 9: Year, Oh, don't even don't worry about that. Next week,

1039
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 9: we're gonna come out home. We're gonna put out a

1040
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 9: great product. It's gonna be a fun game. It's gonna

1041
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 9: be fun. Don't even don't even stress.

1042
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 7: It's a lot.

1043
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 9: Like I said, it's a long season. We will put

1044
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 9: out a great product. It will be a fun game.

1045
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 5: What's one reason why this fans should still believe in y'all?

1046
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 7: I mean, we've got everything we need. We got Dak Prescott.

1047
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 9: Do you see the offense Dave Flirsting were the number

1048
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 9: one offense in the in the NFL right now, So

1049
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 9: defense just got to step it up a little bit

1050
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 9: and we should be able to compete with anybody.

1051
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:44,240
Speaker 2: James Houston, everybody appreciate you so much, thanks for coming,

1052
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you very much, and keep grinding.

1053
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 4: And Nicole and I'll be back here next Tuesday.

1054
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: Come on Monday if you want, but we'll be here

1055
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: on Tuesday on the Cowboys Hour.

1056
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,920
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1057
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,880
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1058
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