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Speaker 1: Well, good evening, everyone, Welcome to Stitchfield. It is no

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Speaker 2: Listen to this interaction today at the White House on.

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Speaker 3: NATO right now, it sounds like you were saying that

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Speaker 3: you would potentially acquire Greenland by force.

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Speaker 4: That would be a NATO country.

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Speaker 5: Are you saying, would you do?

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Speaker 6: You know you're saying that, so you're telling me that

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Speaker 5: You don't know what I'm gonna do, So what are

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Speaker 6: Your network doesn't know?

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Speaker 3: The Danish for ad minister said that there's still fundamental differences.

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Speaker 7: After the meeting with Rubio and with the Vice President.

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Speaker 8: Are you willing to leave the NATO alliance in order

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Speaker 9: With Greenland.

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Speaker 5: What are the options?

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Speaker 6: Rightly, I wouldn't be telling you what I'm willing to do.

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Speaker 6: Certainly I'm going to give up options. But it's very important.

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Speaker 6: Greenland's very important for the national security, including of Denmark.

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Speaker 6: And the problem is, is not a thing that Denmark

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Speaker 6: occupy Greenland. But there's everything we can do. You found

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: Look, I don't believe President Trump's going to go take

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Speaker 1: it by force. We already have an agreement with Greenland

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Speaker 2: We have one. I think the agreement.

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Speaker 1: Calls for the ability for us to put as many basis.

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Speaker 2: As we want in there.

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Speaker 1: So there's probably more to play at this to national security,

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Speaker 1: So the Foreign Minister of Denmark came to the White

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Speaker 1: That is them arriving at the White House today. The

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Speaker 9: On this basis, we had what I will describe as

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Speaker 9: here our perspectives continue to defunct. I must say the

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Speaker 9: President has made his view clear and we have a

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Speaker 9: different position.

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Speaker 1: Look den Martonito country. Europe though is very weak right now.

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Speaker 1: China and Russia most certainly would want Greenland. It is

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Speaker 1: very precious real estate in that region. Now, how much

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Speaker 1: would it cost to buy Greenland? Some people throw this

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Speaker 1: seven hundred billion number around. I'm sure Trump could get

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure you're going to have to do this.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you sign one hundred year lease for Greenland. There's

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Speaker 1: I want to bring in the former United States Ambassador

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Speaker 1: to the Republic of Iceland under President Trump. He is

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Speaker 1: now a congressional candidate out in Nevada, Doctor Jeffrey Gunter

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Speaker 2: Doc. Great to have you on the program, mister ambassador,

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Speaker 5: Always great to be with you as usual.

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Speaker 10: You're talking about a tough topic that's so important with

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Speaker 5: Spot On.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's amazing that we're getting to the point of

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Speaker 1: I correct that there's already an agreement in place that

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Speaker 2: How does that work, Ambassador, Well.

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Speaker 10: We have military agreements with all our NATO countries. For example,

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Speaker 10: years ago when we saw the whole Brujaha about him

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Speaker 10: But as you know, President Trump is not a game player,

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Speaker 10: importance of Greenland, and to today it's even more important.

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Speaker 10: Let's face it, there's a lot of Russians in Chinese

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Speaker 10: And President Trump will obviously not stand by and let

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Speaker 10: like the game of musical chairs. It's a lot easier

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Speaker 1: You know, I guess, Ambassador, I'm somewhat confused of why

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Speaker 2: What is the problem from them? What is the pushback

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Speaker 10: I have absolutely no idea. It might just be the

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Speaker 10: But the harsh reality is there's only one country that

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Speaker 5: Not Denmark, not Germany.

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Speaker 10: No other country can protect the people of Greenland, of

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Speaker 10: The population is declining there, and it is essential. It's

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Speaker 10: And the Chinese would love to have their Northwest Passage

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Speaker 10: make sure that America is safe and as part of

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Speaker 1: I guess last question for you, I believe there's more

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Speaker 10: You're absolutely right, they do have a lot of natural

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Speaker 5: You won't let them do it. Let's face it.

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Speaker 10: Denmark has not the ability to stop them from doing it,

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Speaker 5: And there is historical relevance to this.

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Speaker 10: We all remember when Iceland was actually invaded by Great

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Speaker 5: So it's not completely unprecedented.

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Speaker 10: I don't believe they were going to do it with force,

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Speaker 1: Well, nobody knows that region like you do, a former

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Speaker 1: ambassador to Iceland. Now you're running for Congress. Where can

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Speaker 10: Oh thank you. Doctor Jeffgunter dot com. Doctor Jeffgunter dot com.

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Speaker 10: I'm one hundred and ten percent for America. First policy

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Speaker 10: US ambassador, and it's equally important now that we stand

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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more.

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Speaker 1: We wish you the best of success moving on in

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Speaker 1: the campaign, and thank you for coming on tonight.

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Speaker 5: As always, God plus you for all you do.

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Speaker 2: Grant absolutely, thank you so much, ambassador.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm calling it.

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Speaker 2: Just follow President Trump's lead.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we don't need gimmicky campaign, non free market ideas.

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Speaker 1: So again, we don't need non free market ideas. We

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Speaker 1: We don't need price controls. I want to bring in now,

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Speaker 1: senior fellow at Unleashed Prosperity, EJ.

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Speaker 2: Antony is here. EJ. Welcome to the program. I'll be

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Speaker 1: You know where I got much of my talking points

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Speaker 1: for tonight is your daily email that Unleash Prosperity releases

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Speaker 12: Well, Grant appreciate it, and encourage all the viewers, of course,

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Speaker 4: Look, at the end of.

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Speaker 12: The day, I think what the President really needs to

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Speaker 12: focus on here is what has made his agenda so

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Speaker 12: Those are all wins for the American people. It's what

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Speaker 5: It's a very simple formula.

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Speaker 2: All right, ej.

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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court set to rule on tariffs, do you

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Speaker 12: Do in the long run, Grant, I don't think virtually

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Speaker 1: And it is interesting because if we remember the markets

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Speaker 1: You know, EJ, I'm so glad you brought that up,

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Speaker 1: President Trump does this on a lot of issues. He'll

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Speaker 1: Antonio with the Committee Unleashed Prosperity. Great morning newsletter. I'll

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Speaker 1: read it every day. Say hi to your friends over there,

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you for having me Grant.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, folks. I want to turn now to Iran.

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Speaker 1: It could fall any day. The people of Iran are

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Speaker 2: That it will retaliate in the instance of US strike.

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Speaker 8: I guess the US assets in the Middle East, What

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Speaker 10: Said that the last time I blow them up with

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Speaker 1: And they better because you better believe President Trump means

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Speaker 1: of Speak the Truth podcast, Our good friend Matt Tardio

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Speaker 2: Matt, welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 13: Thanks for having me back again, Grant.

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Speaker 2: All right, Matt, you.

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Speaker 1: Are always breaking news. You come up with very interesting

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Speaker 1: things that are going on around the globe here in

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Speaker 1: the United States. You said about the embassy, the UK embassy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the UK embassy was evacuated very very early this morning,

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Speaker 3: No, certain, No, No, these are the ones over inside of Iran.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so do you think that military action is inevitable

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Speaker 13: Right, taking out the military wouldn't do very much.

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Speaker 3: Which you actually need is in order for a successful

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Speaker 3: to send this money back and forth because of the

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Speaker 3: sanctions and stuff that go on it.

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Speaker 13: They don't want us to seize it.

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Speaker 3: Last year, Russia and Iran actually launched, you know, a

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Speaker 3: practice program, if you will, for how they're going to

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Speaker 3: so that the United States and the EU can't interdict

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Speaker 3: that money. Well, what they're doing very clearly after the

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Speaker 3: bell of one is they're doing it with gold, and

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Speaker 3: they're doing with the oil. You know, China was sending

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Speaker 3: a bunch of money over to Maduro, and so when

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Speaker 3: doing is we're cutting off. What we're doing is we're

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Speaker 3: cutting off China from getting repaid all of the end

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Speaker 3: that they printed off over to Venezuela and oil, and

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Speaker 3: that affects their economy. And then when you look at

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Speaker 3: what China is doing with the silver market and how

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Speaker 3: they're capitalizing on that, you know, they control about sixty

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Speaker 3: percent of the exports for the world, you know, and

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Speaker 3: they just cut off the US defense industry last month,

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Speaker 3: and they obviously, you know, put a huge restriction on it.

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Speaker 3: You guys can see the cause of that in the market.

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Speaker 3: So they're playing these games back and forth, but it's

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Speaker 3: not working out so good for them. I think they're

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Speaker 3: hurting pretty bad. Otherwise it wouldn't be dispatching nuclear subs

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Speaker 3: for measly three tons of gold.

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Speaker 2: Well, isn't that the truth? Matt Tardia, You always have

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Speaker 1: I appreciate all you've done is a Special Forces veteran

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Speaker 13: Thank you, yeah, thanks again, great, appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota leftists are still trying to destroy their own city.

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Speaker 1: And again another woman in a car gets dragged out.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to get themsel I was killed. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: break it down. Sheriff Mark Lambs with us next. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back everyone. These leftists have lost their minds, specifically in Arizona,

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Speaker 1: you have elected leaders, so called leaders Democrats that are

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Speaker 1: weaponizing these zombies, weaponizing liberal women, using them as sacrificial poems.

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Speaker 1: This woman almost got herself killed again. Another woman in

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Speaker 1: a car that if you watch close, at least she

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Speaker 1: floors it as well before.

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Speaker 2: Being pulled out by Ice agents. Watch this, so.

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Speaker 1: Just look at her. She is not complying. All she

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Speaker 1: had to do was listening to police. They told her

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Speaker 1: to just drive forward, and she refused to do this,

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Speaker 1: and she again is.

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Speaker 2: Not complying the whole way.

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Speaker 1: Would you like to see how you act or how

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Speaker 1: you should act when you get stopped by a police

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Speaker 1: officer or an Ice agent, as in the case of

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Speaker 1: this truck driver in Minneapolis. By the way, at a

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Speaker 1: truck stop, Ice approached him, No danger for him.

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Speaker 2: Watch it's really up to you.

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Speaker 5: If you want, if you want, if you're willing to

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Speaker 5: let me check it.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Hooker.

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Speaker 5: Where were you born? I was born in Chicago.

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Speaker 4: In Chicago, Yeah, is.

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Speaker 5: That where you're living now?

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Speaker 14: No, all right, appreciated there, No problem, have you got you, Sue?

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Speaker 1: They come back again, another group and he says, hey,

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Speaker 1: you guys were already here, no problem, just complied with

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Speaker 1: the officer. Notice the officers said, hey, if you'd like

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Speaker 1: to show me that I do. They didn't mandate that

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Speaker 1: he show his quote papers. But they're doing checks, keeping

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Speaker 1: people safe, easy, comply and on he goes, not like

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Speaker 1: these lunatics. Why why are the lunatics doing what they're

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Speaker 1: doing because of absolute rhetoric like this. This is the

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Speaker 1: Minneapolis City Council president. Yeah, I'm worried that they'll kill

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Speaker 1: me because I'm out there and I'm witnessing and i'm documenting,

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Speaker 1: and it seems that they are retaliating against us, frustrating

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Speaker 1: our rights. When when did an ICE agent retaliate against you?

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Speaker 2: You're waiting for an ICE agent to kill you.

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Speaker 1: Really, the only way you get killed is if you

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Speaker 1: threaten one of these ice agents with great bodily harm,

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Speaker 1: you will die. Don't do that. I'm here to tell

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Speaker 1: you that's not a good idea. I want to bring

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Speaker 1: in now retire Panall County Sheriff in Arizona. He's now

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Speaker 1: a candidate for Congress. Out there, my good friend, Sheriff

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Speaker 1: Mark Lambas back Sheriff.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you on the program. Good to be

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Speaker 2: home with you, Grant Sheriff.

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Speaker 1: Show your hands, obey commands. I think you live one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Of the time.

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Speaker 15: And frankly, these folks need to understand that going out

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Speaker 15: and protesting ICE is not going to get them anywhere.

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Speaker 15: These laws are made in the legislature. ICE is merely

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Speaker 15: enforcing the laws that Congress and Senate have made. So really,

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Speaker 15: if you want to exercise your constitutional first right, which

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Speaker 15: says that you have the right to peaceably assemble to

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Speaker 15: readdress grievances with your government. The word protest has only

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Speaker 15: been adopted by the courts throughout the years, but it

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Speaker 15: is only adopted in a peaceful form. Going out and

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Speaker 15: protesting obstructing law enforcement is illegal. In most cases, these

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Speaker 15: people should have been arrested, but ICE doesn't have the

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Speaker 15: bandwidth to be arresting American citizens because they're looking for

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Speaker 15: those criminals who are in this country illegally, and if

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Speaker 15: these folks would just get out of the way, nobody

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Speaker 15: would get hurt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sheriff, let me play that clip for you of

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Speaker 1: the woman in her car.

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Speaker 2: Take me through this as you look at this, of what's.

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Speaker 1: Going on here, and your thoughts as you watch it unfold.

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Speaker 15: Well, clearly they've given her multiple commands to get out

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Speaker 15: of the car, put the car and starting to move forward.

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Speaker 15: Now they're removing her from the car, not only to

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Speaker 15: protect them, but to protect her as well. This is

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Speaker 15: what she doesn't get. But had she not been there

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Speaker 15: in the first place, she'd have never never been pulled

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Speaker 15: out of the car. But like you showed in the

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Speaker 15: video where the guy merely just complies, shows his id

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Speaker 15: follows the commands that the law enforcement gives him. You

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Speaker 15: get back in your car and you move on. But this, look,

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Speaker 15: these folks, in many cases Grant are paid agitators. They

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Speaker 15: are being paid to go out there and just raise hell.

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Speaker 15: This is the socialist communists agenda. They want to continue

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Speaker 15: to create instability and chaos, especially with law enforcement. And

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Speaker 15: they don't want President Trump to do his job, even

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Speaker 15: though he's doing the exact same thing that President Obama

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Speaker 15: said many times and was doing for a long time.

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Speaker 1: All right, Chuck Schumer has now jumped on board of

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Speaker 1: this attack ICE train.

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Speaker 2: He's been doing it for a long time, no surprise.

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Speaker 1: But let me play a clip of him from his

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Speaker 1: time on MSNBC MS Now, I guess they call it

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Speaker 1: roll cut six for me.

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Speaker 16: Guys.

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Speaker 17: These ICE agents are so totally untrained in police doctrine.

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Speaker 17: They don't know what to do, how to do it,

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Speaker 17: and it ends up even killing people and causing such

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Speaker 17: mayhem that yes, you are one hundred percent right. We

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Speaker 17: need our police officers across the country to tell ICE

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Speaker 17: you don't know what the hell you're doing. You need

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Speaker 17: real police training.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: You're the sheriff of a very large agency in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: You just watched the ICE agents there. You've seen the

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Speaker 1: video of the officer getting run over and shooting. I

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Speaker 1: acknowledge that not every officer may have fired his gun

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Speaker 1: in that point, but he had a right.

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Speaker 2: To do it.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on the comment that ICE agents aren't trained?

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Speaker 15: What does that soft body, old curmudgeon know about policing.

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Speaker 15: This guy's been sucking off the teat of the American

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Speaker 15: public in Washington, d C for decades. How dare he

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Speaker 15: come in and act as if he's an authority on

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Speaker 15: what should and shouldn't be done on the streets of

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Speaker 15: America as it relates to having law and ordered. This

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Speaker 15: guy knows nothing. He got to keep his mouth shut

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Speaker 15: and worry about the disaster that is Washington, d C.

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Speaker 15: And the political disaster that his party is. That's what

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Speaker 15: he should focus on. And let us who know and

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Speaker 15: who are trained to do the job, let us do it.

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Speaker 15: I'll tell you something right now, that guy followed his training.

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Speaker 15: He would have been seriously physically injured or killed had

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Speaker 15: he not acted, and he did. And now we're hearing

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Speaker 15: that he even had internal bleeding from that injury that

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Speaker 15: he sustained from that vehicle.

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Speaker 5: These folks are wrong.

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Speaker 15: The law enforcement guys do a good job, they have

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Speaker 15: great training. And the last person will take critique from

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Speaker 15: is some old politician who hasn't learned how to leave Washington,

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Speaker 15: DC even though his is welcome has been worn out

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Speaker 15: for years.

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Speaker 1: Well, I got an idea that if people go to

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Speaker 1: Mark Lamb dot us that's your website for your campaign,

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Speaker 1: maybe you go to Washington and give some chuck Schumer

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Speaker 1: some training in how to lead, how to operate, and

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Speaker 1: how to govern.

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Speaker 2: Fair deal, Sheriff Lamb.

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Speaker 5: Fair deal.

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Speaker 15: I'll tell you what I'd like you tell him.

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Speaker 2: I'm coming in.

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Speaker 15: Hell's coming with me because i want to represent the

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Speaker 15: American people and put the American people first, unlike these

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Speaker 15: politicians in Washington, DC to include as one of the

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Speaker 15: top people Chuck Schumer, who has failed the American people

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Speaker 15: over and over again.

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Speaker 2: I'll represent law enforcement.

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Speaker 15: I'll represent the American people and the best interest of

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Speaker 15: the American people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you will. Mark Lamb dot us is

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Speaker 2: the website.

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Speaker 1: It's good to have you on. Thank you for coming

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Speaker 1: on as.

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Speaker 2: Always, Thank you brother.

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Speaker 1: The leftist that was attempting to suppress American free speech,

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Speaker 1: not just the leftist, a foreigner. The man you're looking

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Speaker 1: at on your screen. President Trump's trying to get him

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Speaker 1: kicked out of the country. A court has stepped in

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Speaker 1: the way. But we'll talk to one of the doctors

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Speaker 1: that man tried to squash When it comes to free speech,

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Speaker 1: it's next. Welcome back everyone. I want you to take

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Speaker 1: a look at this man right here. His name is

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Speaker 1: Imron Ahmed. He is the CEO of the Center for

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Speaker 1: Countering Digital Hate. What it really means is the Center

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Speaker 1: for suppressing the free speech of American citizens. He is

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Speaker 1: here legally in this country. He's from Great Britain. He

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Speaker 1: is a basically a spinmeister for those on the left

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Speaker 1: in England, very close to Keir Starmer. He comes over

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Speaker 1: to America during COVID, creates this agency and tries to

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Speaker 1: squash every American citizen's right to free speech simply for

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Speaker 1: raising questions about COVID, the vaccine, and beyond election integrity,

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Speaker 1: you name it.

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Speaker 2: Just because you have.

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Speaker 1: A visa does not mean you have an absolute right

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Speaker 1: to be in this country. If you come from out

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Speaker 1: of the country to squash the rights of Americans, you

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Speaker 1: need to go.

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Speaker 2: And that's what President Trump wants to make happen.

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Speaker 1: A court has stepped in and put a stay on

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Speaker 1: the deportation order of Imran Ahmed. But I want you

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Speaker 1: to listen to what he is capable of cut to.

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Speaker 18: You know, you'll sort of think of, well, I'm willing

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Speaker 18: to tolerate the normalization of anti Semitism because some people

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Speaker 18: were banned for saying that men can't be women in run.

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Speaker 18: I disagree with this.

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Speaker 2: I can't disagree with something I didn't say.

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Speaker 16: Should you be able to call for an armed revolution

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Speaker 16: on social media?

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Speaker 13: Do you think they should?

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Speaker 16: If we were living in the social media age in

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Speaker 16: seventeen seventy six. This country never would have been created.

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Speaker 18: In what way is he was banned from all the

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Speaker 18: social media platforms. We worried about his ability to get

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Speaker 18: his message out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he just sums it up right there.

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Speaker 1: He was worried about his ability to get his message out,

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Speaker 1: so they needed to squash it, get him kicked off

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Speaker 1: social media outlets. And that's what the Center for Countering

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Speaker 1: Digital Hate did. This is the guy that coined the

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Speaker 1: disinformation dozen nonsense, going after a dozen truth tellers, doctors,

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Speaker 1: researchers who were calling into question the COVID vaccine and beyond.

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Speaker 1: One of those doctors is doctor Ben Tapper. He is

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Speaker 1: the director of epigenetics for the Wellness Company and one

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Speaker 1: all the disinformation does. And he's also got a suit,

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Speaker 1: a lawsuit against Imron Ahmed.

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Speaker 2: Doc. Great to have you back on the program, Grant.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. It's good to be here.

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Speaker 2: Does this guy need to go absolutely?

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Speaker 8: I mean he's a foreigner on American soil calling for

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Speaker 8: the centership of myself and other people that have dissenting voices,

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Speaker 8: especially during COVID. This man is in violation of laws.

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Speaker 8: This is why Trump is trying to give him the boot.

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Speaker 8: This man really is a you know, he is a

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Speaker 8: threat to our freedoms and liberties in this country. Again,

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Speaker 8: he's a foreigner. He's not paying taxes, he's not a

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Speaker 8: US citizen.

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Speaker 4: He is a foreigner.

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Speaker 8: And you know President Biden took this man's advice Biden

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Speaker 8: in the White House, So let that sink in.

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Speaker 4: People listen to this.

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Speaker 8: Biden stood behind this man and supported this man for

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Speaker 8: the centership of American people like myself, and it's criminal.

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Speaker 1: Let me play another clip from him, just to give

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Speaker 1: people a feel for what this guy's beliefs are cut for.

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Speaker 18: You know, it doesn't matter which policy issue is central

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Speaker 18: to your concerns about the future. Fixing the disorder in

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Speaker 18: our information ecosystem has become integral to the solution. If

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Speaker 18: you care about conflict resolution or peace, or anti semitism

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Speaker 18: or anti LGBTQ plus hate, then you worry about polarization

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Speaker 18: and the amplification of hate speech, which makes our societies

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Speaker 18: feel less safe, more polarized, sclerotic, harder to cohere.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to do what you did for

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Speaker 1: me on our podcast when we talked about this doctor

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Speaker 1: Tapper for the guys behind the glass. Can you freeze

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Speaker 1: frame that speech behind the podium of the doctrine the

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Speaker 1: other one where it goes wide, please, so we can

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Speaker 1: see the full podium. If you could do that for me, perfect,

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Speaker 1: throw that up on the screen, Doctor Capper. Explain to

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Speaker 1: me what we're seeing here and why this is so concerning.

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Speaker 8: I'm so glad you brought that up, Grant, because that

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Speaker 8: symbol represents communism. When I see that, that represents the

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Speaker 8: UN the Agenda's sustainable developmental goals. There are seventeen colors

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Speaker 8: on that chart there, and each one of those represents

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Speaker 8: a violation of American freedoms. Make no mistake that one

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Speaker 8: of those color stands for gender equality. You have climate control,

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Speaker 8: you have all these areas of the Agenda twenty thirty

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Speaker 8: coming our way. American people need to wake up. This

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Speaker 8: is not about right versus left. This is about freedoms.

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Speaker 8: We have to understand that that symbol is a direct

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Speaker 8: violation of what every single soldier fought for in this country.

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Speaker 8: This is a violation of American freedoms, and that symbol

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Speaker 8: is a threat to our liberties in this country. We

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Speaker 8: have to understand that that represents the UN's Agenda twenty

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Speaker 8: thirty and it's coming away and you have people like

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Speaker 8: Bill Gates that are supporting it, standing behind it, and

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Speaker 8: Imrod behind that podium tells you everything you need to

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Speaker 8: know of what he stands for.

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Speaker 4: He is a threat to our freedoms. Make no mistake.

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Speaker 2: That's the rainbow circle there on the podium.

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Speaker 1: That that what my guys behind the glass are so great.

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Speaker 1: Look they got a shot of an up close for

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Speaker 1: you that you're talking about. Now you have a lawsuit

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Speaker 1: against im run Amed. Can you explain to me what

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Speaker 1: that entails and why?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely so, Mrod. They put on an article of

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Speaker 8: the Disinformation Doesn't early on in the pandemic. This nonprofit

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Speaker 8: came out of nowhere. It comes from dark money. I

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Speaker 8: mean Imrod is tied to George Soros. George Sorols was

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Speaker 8: backing them and a lot of dark ties, the dark money. Uh,

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Speaker 8: they're an evil corporation that came out of nowhere. And

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Speaker 8: the first hit piece they've ever came out with it

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Speaker 8: was on the disinformation Doesn't. This is a slippery slope

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Speaker 8: because that what they said was that it was hate speech.

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Speaker 8: What we were talking about, we were exposing the corruption

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Speaker 8: behind the vaccine, exposing the manipulation of data that the

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Speaker 8: government was pushing on the American people.

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Speaker 4: And we were.

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Speaker 8: Talking raising awareness dangers of the m R and A

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Speaker 8: technology and what they said. They said that they could

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Speaker 8: censor us because it was deemed hateful. And so you know,

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Speaker 8: George Martin said, we condate man's tongue. You don't prove

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Speaker 8: a liar, but you are fearful of what he has

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Speaker 8: to say. And I believe it was George Washington who

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Speaker 8: stated that if they take away our freedom of speech,

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Speaker 8: then dumb and silent will be led like sheep to slaughter.

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Speaker 8: So the Emrod's article that disinformation does and list came out,

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Speaker 8: and so we're filing a lawsuit against them to protect

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Speaker 8: our freedoms and to protect our liberties.

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Speaker 4: This is not a lawsuit here for defamation.

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Speaker 8: This is a lawsuit for our freedoms and our liberties,

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Speaker 8: to protect our freedom of speech. We only have the

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Speaker 8: rights and freedoms that we're willing to defend, so this

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Speaker 8: lawsuit is absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Important for our freedoms.

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Speaker 1: Well, I will remind everyone that the quote disinformation doesn't

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Speaker 1: turned out to be right about everything. And again, as

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Speaker 1: you and I said, there's really no such thing as disinformation.

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Speaker 2: There's just misinformation.

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Speaker 1: And it's up to you and me and everybody else

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Speaker 1: out there to decipher what they believe to be true

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Speaker 1: what's not on their own, not to be censoring it

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Speaker 1: from me. We're all smart enough to figure it out

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Speaker 1: on our own. This guy's bad news. I hope he

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Speaker 1: gets deported, doctor Ben Tapper. I hope you're successful on

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Speaker 1: your lawsuit, and I appreciate you coming on.

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Speaker 2: Where can people find you real quick?

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Speaker 8: Yep, you can find me on doctor Ben Tapper's podcast

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Speaker 8: search Apple Podcasts. Find me there doctor Ben Tapper's podcast.

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Speaker 8: Social media to search doctor Ben Tamper. Thank you, Grant God.

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Speaker 2: Bless, absolutely, thank you as well.

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Speaker 1: All Right, folks, a leftist doctor who claims to care

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Speaker 1: about science can't answer if a man can get pregnant

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Speaker 1: in front of a Senate committee.

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Speaker 2: Today, we're still doing this. Welcome back everyone.

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Speaker 1: A stunning moment inside the halls of the United States Senate.

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Speaker 1: They're holding a hearing on an worship drug that's causing

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Speaker 1: all kinds of problems for women, and they start talking

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Speaker 1: about science. Well, what comes up when you're interviewing with

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Speaker 1: a doctor that's saying we need to go to the

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Speaker 1: science on things and you ask them, can a man

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Speaker 1: get pregnant? You would expect a scientist to come up

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Speaker 1: with an answer right away, Not this woman. I want

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Speaker 1: to play this entire exchange for you.

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Speaker 2: Watch this.

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Speaker 16: Why don't we to start there, doctor Verma. I wasn't

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Speaker 16: sure I understood your answer to Senator Moody a moment ago,

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Speaker 16: do you think that men can get pregnant?

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Speaker 19: I hesitated there because I wasn't sure where the conversation

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Speaker 19: was going or what the goal was. I mean, I

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Speaker 19: do take care of patients with different identities. I take

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Speaker 19: care of many women. I take care of people with

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Speaker 19: different identities, and so that's where I paused. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 19: I wasn't sure where you were going with that.

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Speaker 16: Well, the goal is the truth, so can men get pregnant?

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Speaker 7: Again?

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Speaker 19: The reason I paused there is I'm not really sure

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Speaker 19: what the goal.

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Speaker 2: Of the question.

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Speaker 16: Goal is just to establish a biological reality. You just

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Speaker 16: said a moment ago that science and evidence should control

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Speaker 16: not politics. So let's just test that proposition. Can men

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Speaker 16: get pregnant?

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Speaker 19: I take care of people with many identities.

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Speaker 16: But can men get pregnant?

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Speaker 19: Many women? That can get pregnant. I do take care

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Speaker 19: of people that don't identify as women.

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Speaker 16: That can can men get pregnant?

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Speaker 19: Again, as I'm saying, let me.

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Speaker 16: Just remind you if you testified to a moment ago,

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Speaker 16: science and evidence should control not politics.

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Speaker 2: Science and evidence should control not politics.

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Speaker 1: You would think she would simply say, you know what, men,

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Speaker 1: biological men? Okay, I even get that if she's a

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Speaker 1: leftist lunatic that wants to somehow label a transgender man

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Speaker 1: who's pretending to be a woman, and I don't want

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Speaker 1: to call him a woman or man whatever, But a

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Speaker 1: biological male is one thing that's indisputable.

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Speaker 2: You're born a male or or you're a born woman.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Can a biological man get pregnant? The answer is so simple,

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Speaker 1: She says, she's about science.

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Speaker 2: Not so it.

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Speaker 16: Continues, So should can men get pregnant? You're a doctor, say.

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Speaker 19: Science and evidence should guide medicine.

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Speaker 16: I do science that evidence tell us that men can

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Speaker 16: get pregnant? Biological men? Can they get pregnant?

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Speaker 19: I also think yes, no questions like this are a

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Speaker 19: political tool, and.

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Speaker 16: No, yes, no questions are about the truth doctor. Or

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Speaker 16: let's not make a mockery of this proceeding. This is

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Speaker 16: about science and evidence, and I'm asking you. You know,

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Speaker 16: the United States Supreme Court just heard arguments yesterday at

889
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Speaker 16: great lengths on this question. This is not a hypothetical question.

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Speaker 16: This is not theoretical that affects real people in their

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Speaker 16: real lives. And you're here as an expert, called by

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Speaker 16: the other side as an expert, and you've been telling

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Speaker 16: us that you that you follow right, You're a doctor,

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Speaker 16: and you follow the science and the evidence. So I

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Speaker 16: just want to know, based on the science, can men

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Speaker 16: get pregnant? That's a yes or no rush, it really is.

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Speaker 19: I think I think you're trying to reduce the complexity.

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Speaker 12: Of a lot.

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Speaker 16: I'm not. I'm trying to get it's not complex.

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Speaker 2: It's not complex at all.

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Speaker 1: They make an absolute mockery out of themselves. They want

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Speaker 1: to talk about Republicans and RFK Junior doesn't follow the science.

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Speaker 2: They literally can't tell you.

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Speaker 1: That a man cannot get pregnant. Okay, what do you

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Speaker 1: How do we even have a debate with these people.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can. We have gone down the

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Speaker 2: road of looney tuneville.

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Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey says obesity is genetic it can be.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into this next.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's listen to Oprah Winfrey talk about obesity.

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Speaker 2: We know she's struggled with it here and there.

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Speaker 13: What I ate, what I should eat? How many calories

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Speaker 13: was that?

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Speaker 7: How long is it going to take? I thought that

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Speaker 7: that was because of me and my fault. Now I

916
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Speaker 7: understand that if you carry the obesity gene, if that

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Speaker 7: is what you have, that is what makes you overeat.

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Speaker 7: You don't overeat and become obese. Obesity causes you to overeat.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say right now, that's a load of bull corn. Okay, Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's harder for some people to lose weight than others.

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Speaker 1: Clearly some people have a faster metabolism. But it's about

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Speaker 1: self control. It's about eating right and doing the right

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Speaker 1: things and exercise. And if you do all those things,

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Speaker 1: no matter what your gene is, you will get in shape.

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Speaker 2: That I promise you.

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Speaker 1: Just go watch the Biggest Loser that's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for us. God bless all of you, So appreciative of you.

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Speaker 1: Stinchfield's army roles.

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Speaker 2: We'll see about