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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the game, the defense looked pretty fresh.

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Speaker 3: I was just sitting here waiting to, like, just chime

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Speaker 3: in with that, because some pointed out, no, no, there's

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Speaker 3: no way you put a friend all.

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Speaker 1: Of a sudden asking a question at a press conference.

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Speaker 2: I was like, is that is that? Paul I did

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Speaker 2: a double take. The boycott is over? Boy, you said

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Speaker 2: you're you're done with that.

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Speaker 4: I never said that. I thought I'm trying to be cordial.

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Speaker 2: I thought there was a boycott. I thought there was

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Speaker 2: a d'angelo's sub. That's ridiculous going please bring back three

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Speaker 2: points by Parola?

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Speaker 4: So you you too, YouTube don't know ye, someday I'll

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you how important I used to be. Started

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Speaker 4: with five points from the money points. It cuts me.

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Speaker 4: It cuts down to three.

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Speaker 2: In the fourth we get a kick return touchdown, a

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Speaker 2: pick and a sack. What do Pauline induce to toss

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Speaker 2: the wet blanket on the whole thing? Fellas, come on,

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Speaker 2: we get it. Improve us needed blah blah blah, but

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Speaker 2: we won.

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Speaker 4: That's right, because I'm angry that this email was angering me.

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Speaker 2: I know I need to know the entomology. I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: It's the same play ptamology.

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Speaker 1: Please, good, good word? Did I get that right?

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday, Sara

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Speaker 2: Jillette Stadium. It's deuced Paul Evan myself getting ready for

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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday. We're also getting ready for

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Speaker 2: the Julian Edelman and Bill Parcell's Patriots Hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: induction on Saturday. So it's a big weekend here at

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Speaker 2: Jillette Stadium and big show Today, Show Today. Goosey got

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Speaker 2: your brunt three quarter zip on, good for you, represent

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Speaker 2: good for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's geting to be quarter zip weather, three quarter

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Speaker 3: quarters of u zip q zip weather.

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Speaker 1: I think his first time.

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Speaker 2: Fauls got his ninety eight point five shirt that he's

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Speaker 2: going to be wearing today when he goes.

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Speaker 4: On just a golf shirt.

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Speaker 2: I know, but you've got to look good for ninety

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Speaker 2: eight point five. Yeah, get to the bottom. ILL be

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Speaker 2: wearing that Northeastern stuff on ninety eight point five. Wear

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Speaker 2: that here.

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Speaker 4: You think I never won? You think I never dug

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Speaker 4: a hole before. I think I never wear my Northeastern

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Speaker 4: stuff on ninety eight point five.

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Speaker 2: All right, So what do we got? We're gonna be Oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, we'll be going to Rabel Live when

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Speaker 2: he starts at about twelve fifty five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're fromon digs in the locker room today, of course,

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Speaker 3: and I think everyone wants to know big news talk

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Speaker 2: I hope, I hope he agrees with her assessment. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's let's see. I assume that there'll be I assume

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Speaker 2: Somebody will Well.

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Speaker 1: We'll see.

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Speaker 3: I'll get in there with the mic and we'll get

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Speaker 3: the we'll get the answers. We'll get the answers we

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Speaker 3: need people. It's done the impossible. He's silenced.

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Speaker 2: It's just, you know, this is good. I don't know

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Speaker 2: coming to all the games.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, thinks about billion butt lifts. I don't

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Speaker 2: I just hope these kids can work it out all right.

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Speaker 2: But but onto football. I was watching the Twitter today

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Speaker 1: Jack Sawyer over there playing a little bit as well.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know, I feel like I'm having

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Speaker 1: But injuries and I don't know, there's just something I

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Speaker 7: It's because they're better on paper than what they've played

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Speaker 4: It is defensively, I didn't realize all those guys were out,

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Speaker 4: High Smith played ten plays. The other day. He was

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Speaker 4: Like I think Charpertey had something like ten carries for

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Speaker 7: Well that was sort of my takeaway from it, and

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Speaker 7: had a great game on Sunday, But Gibson and Travon

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Speaker 7: Like that was how Seattle ran the ball on Sunday

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Speaker 7: it back to one of Paul's shows. You week one,

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Speaker 7: they ran away from Max Crosby the entire game and

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Speaker 2: And but then you know, it gets to that you

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Speaker 2: what everyone else knows about that you know, you assume

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Speaker 2: they're going to make adjustments, because when I looked at

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Speaker 7: Well, because there was a strong side of the formation, right,

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Speaker 2: All, and then they're running against that right side of

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Speaker 2: And I would imagine that it's going to declare early.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'd say there were a couple of tweets this

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: That is one thing that kind of worries me, like

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Speaker 4: their run defenses. You know, guys just talked about it.

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Speaker 4: Cameron Hayward basically took the summer off, so maybe he's

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Speaker 4: in that game that was just unbelievable individual effort on

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Speaker 4: It was amazing. But maybe that might be part of

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Speaker 1: To run the area.

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Speaker 4: But most part it was Brady just picking them apart

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Speaker 4: and then doing what you said, Mike and not adjusting

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Speaker 4: because we do what we do. Wow, right, you know,

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Speaker 4: well it is great when he's just killing you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it is an element of this game though. That's

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Speaker 7: on my mind is the institutional knowledge that Josh McDaniels

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Speaker 7: has of Mike Tomlin and the Steelers defense, and every

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Speaker 7: time Belichick disciple coach has coached against the Steelers defense.

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Speaker 7: The Patriots have had some success offensively, like even Mac

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Speaker 7: on the other side of the ball, you know, Arthur

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Speaker 7: that's Mike Rabel's old offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 7: So I think there's a lot of knowledge of the

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Speaker 7: Rabel and and McDaniels have a lot of experience and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to talk about that dynamic peppers and

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Speaker 2: But I think you're going to see some design runs too.

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Speaker 7: What Seattle did against Pittsburgh. So like I just I

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Speaker 7: You know, bootlegs, move the pocket, outside zone, run the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just for me, with Josh's experience and like we

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's able to do it too.

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Speaker 2: So move into the other side of the ball, Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would come after Aaron Rodgers. Well, I would

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Speaker 4: Did you just have an argument with your boy about this? No? Hey, continue?

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Speaker 4: Then I don't know because I've heard Alex this morning

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I hear his point. But watching Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: He would imagine it. If he's out there, he's one

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Speaker 3: Right hard hard three practices and jump right in and

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Speaker 2: So if you're the Steelers looking at the Patriots tape

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Speaker 7: J Warren's been sneaky good for them to start the year.

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Speaker 7: They do you have tight ends, So tight ends are good, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: No, No, I mean I mean from a certain perspective

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if I were a Steelers fan, that's what I

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and you're using these weeks to try to

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Speaker 4: to be as good as anybody moving around, making throws

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Speaker 4: with his feet off the ground, and you just he

439
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Speaker 4: can still do all that stuff, but he's not interested

440
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Speaker 4: in moving anymore. He can't and he won't. So it's both.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like he's like trying to show the other

442
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Speaker 2: team if you're not going too for me, I'm not

443
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Speaker 2: going to move.

444
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Speaker 7: He wants to be in the shotgun and just pick Matt.

445
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Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, like pre snap, like where am I going

446
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Speaker 7: with the ball and I'm just going to get the

447
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,120
Speaker 7: football out? And he can still drop dimes like he's

448
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 7: got great it's still got great arm talent, but that's

449
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Speaker 7: just what he does.

450
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Speaker 3: But I mean, he's he's really good on I mean,

451
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Speaker 3: the athletic guy good on the run, like is he

452
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Speaker 3: still like are you still concerned about him breaking the

453
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Speaker 3: pocket and making plays on the run like where he

454
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Speaker 3: used to be where? Or are you just kind of saying,

455
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Speaker 3: like he can't really move, let's just send Barmore and

456
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Speaker 3: Williams right up.

457
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Speaker 1: In the first game last.

458
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Speaker 2: Year where we were thinking he couldn't move, and then

459
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden against us he could move all

460
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Speaker 2: over the place.

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Speaker 4: He did. It was the one game in the two

462
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Speaker 4: year well a year of now plus two games that

463
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Speaker 4: he moved. It was, you're absolutely right. We all said

464
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Speaker 4: all those things and then he went and moved all

465
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Speaker 4: over the place.

466
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Speaker 2: He used it all up against.

467
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Speaker 1: Us, like him and Gino Smith, And I know.

468
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Speaker 7: He can move by you know, like they do run

469
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Speaker 7: a lot of bootlegs with Arthur Smith, and like he

470
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Speaker 7: can still leg and like move by design. He's great

471
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Speaker 7: with the fakes and all that stuff. Still, but if

472
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Speaker 7: you get him under pressure, he goes down. I mean,

473
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Speaker 7: that's just he's going down thirty percent of the time

474
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Speaker 7: when he's getting pressured. It's it's a really high number.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's hope they can do that. We

476
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Speaker 2: need a home win, Patriots need a home win at

477
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Speaker 2: a stadium.

478
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Speaker 1: We have a little bit of breaking news.

479
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Speaker 7: I want to share it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hear it.

481
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Speaker 7: Uh Antonio Gibson Special Teams Player of the Week.

482
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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, I did, Yeah, I did.

483
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Speaker 4: I did.

484
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Speaker 3: No good for uh Antonio when we were joking, you know,

485
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Speaker 3: if they lost, maybe the other punt return would.

486
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Speaker 1: Have gotten it. But but no good for him.

487
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Speaker 3: I what a what a run? Pulled away full speed

488
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Speaker 3: and uh yeah good?

489
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Speaker 2: Uh.

490
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Speaker 1: I mean he had a bunch of yards too.

491
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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I guess that's kind of the

492
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Speaker 3: function of kickoff returns now where you're going to pass

493
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Speaker 3: some more kickoff. I mean, he had like one hundred

494
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Speaker 3: and seventy yards, but you know he's getting twenty five

495
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Speaker 3: yards of a clip.

496
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Speaker 1: But now he's been he's been solid.

497
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Speaker 3: Him and Travon in the preseason hopefully continue to make plays.

498
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Speaker 3: I mean we talked about it a little bit. I mean,

499
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Speaker 3: that's a it's a legit play now, that kickoff.

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Speaker 2: I guess you know, with the short amount of time

501
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Speaker 2: that we've had to review it, the new kickoff rule

502
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Speaker 2: is kind of good. Yeah, I mean it it has

503
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Speaker 2: increased I think I don't know the actual numbers but

504
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Speaker 2: it seems like it's increased the amount of returns.

505
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Speaker 4: First, absolutely first.

506
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Speaker 2: Touchbacks, and at the same time, because they're not running

507
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Speaker 2: full length, it has helped with safety. I don't know,

508
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 2: so it's done both.

509
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean true, there's a lot of people that

510
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Speaker 4: have pushed back on the safety part of it, but

511
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Speaker 4: you can't argue that if they wanted to get the

512
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Speaker 4: kickoff back in the game, this adjustment has worked. Yeah,

513
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Speaker 4: you know, because I want to say, it was like

514
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Speaker 4: over seventy percent seventy five plus percent returns as opposed

515
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Speaker 4: to all those touchbacks that you had last year. I've

516
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Speaker 4: been a little surprised. I thought if the returns were

517
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Speaker 4: creating problems for teams, they would just start saying, well,

518
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Speaker 4: what's the difference between five yards? But just give them

519
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Speaker 4: the touchback and give them the ball. But we haven't

520
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Speaker 4: really seen it yet. Two weeks I think I haven't

521
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Speaker 4: really seen any increase in the touchbacks. I still think

522
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Speaker 4: that might happen, yeah, but I think it hasn't so far.

523
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Speaker 4: Teams have covered pretty well. Also, you know, I don't

524
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Speaker 4: know what the average I think everybody's starting over the

525
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Speaker 4: thirty yard line anyway.

526
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Speaker 2: Well, but if it's short of the thirty five, then

527
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Speaker 2: there's also that chance that you could pin them back

528
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Speaker 2: even further.

529
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Speaker 4: So I don't know, but my point is you're risking

530
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Speaker 4: a big play and you're still get them the ball

531
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Speaker 4: over the thirty yard line. Just give them the touchback

532
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 4: right like that. I think it's been a problem. I

533
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Speaker 4: think there's been a lot of big returns.

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Speaker 2: What's the average drive start?

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good kick.

536
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Speaker 3: That yeah, I mean personally, I'll dive into stats until

537
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Speaker 3: like week four, but.

538
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Speaker 4: It's too But you're right for that because it's too

539
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Speaker 4: small of a sample size.

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Speaker 2: You're right.

541
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Speaker 1: But it's also some.

542
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Speaker 3: Additional pressure on the kickers to get it in the

543
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Speaker 3: landing zone. I mean, there was always that pressure in

544
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Speaker 3: getting it out of bounds and that was, you know,

545
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Speaker 3: a big no no for the kickers. But now you

546
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Speaker 3: go from making an extra point to now you've got

547
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Speaker 3: to land the ball in the landing zone.

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Speaker 2: And and I guess because you need to be more accurate.

549
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Speaker 2: I'm surprised we haven't seen more really high kicks to

550
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Speaker 2: give your coverage team time to get there and set up.

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Speaker 4: You can't do.

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Speaker 2: You've seen more like chipsh It's almost that. It's almost

553
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Speaker 2: like you're pitching it on with a golf club into

554
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Speaker 2: that landing zone, which to me, gives the advantage to

555
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Speaker 2: the returner because the ball gets there quicker and you

556
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Speaker 2: know space.

557
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what are we gonna say? No, what are we

558
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Speaker 1: going to say? I don't know. I want to hear it.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter how high you kick it or how

560
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 4: it gets there. They can't move until he gets touched.

561
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Speaker 2: Oh is that right?

562
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Speaker 1: Right?

563
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Speaker 8: Oh?

564
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Speaker 2: Okay, they never mind.

565
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Speaker 4: So that's why what teams are trying, what some kickers

566
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Speaker 4: are trying to do, is they're trying to perfect that

567
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Speaker 4: line drive that hits the ground in the landing zone

568
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Speaker 4: and then maybe gives the return. Kind of like what

569
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Speaker 4: happened to Antonio Gibson in the last late in the

570
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Speaker 4: first half, we've kind of mishandled, he babbled. It ended

571
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Speaker 4: up being irrelevant because it was the end of the half,

572
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Speaker 4: but they ended up being out of bounds at the

573
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Speaker 4: four yard line.

574
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Speaker 2: Right.

575
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Speaker 4: That's what they're trying to create, some problems handling the ball,

576
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Speaker 4: or if it goes in the end zone, that touchback

577
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 4: doesn't go to the thirty five, It goes to the

578
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Speaker 4: twenty right, if the ball lands in the field and

579
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Speaker 4: then ends up in the end zone for a touchback,

580
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Speaker 4: that doesn't go out of the thirty five. So that's

581
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 4: what the kickers are trying to do. But it's not easy. Yeah,

582
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 4: it's not a normal kick for no.

583
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Speaker 3: I mean I kind of have to give the NFL

584
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Speaker 3: credit for you know, we were talking about all these rule

585
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Speaker 3: changes constantly, but this seems like one where yeah, you

586
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Speaker 3: got to watch the kickoffs now, it's not just yeah.

587
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Speaker 4: I just don't understand why they can't just have the

588
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 4: kickoff the way it normally was. Why they had to

589
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 4: do this thing, And that's why I think there's a

590
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Speaker 4: lot of people pushing back on the safety thing, and frankly,

591
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Speaker 4: Vrabel's one of them who doesn't necessarily see why this

592
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Speaker 4: is safer. We're exciting, no, But what I'm saying is

593
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Speaker 4: you could have the same excitement if you had the

594
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Speaker 4: touch back of the thirty five. They would stop touching

595
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Speaker 4: it back just on a regular kickoff. Yeah, you know,

596
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Speaker 4: because I think it's kind of making it a gimmick

597
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Speaker 4: play now with the everybody lined.

598
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Speaker 2: Up like that, Well, don't you think I And again

599
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Speaker 2: I don't have the data, but the fact that it's

600
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Speaker 2: not as long a run for the coverage team and

601
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Speaker 2: the collisions aren't as huge, that in itself makes it

602
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Speaker 2: a little safe.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if this is not me talking, is

604
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Speaker 4: I'm just listening to some coaches that have kind of

605
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Speaker 4: pushed back on me of no, no, no, we're talking about

606
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Speaker 4: collicious We're talking concussions and collisions. They claim that this

607
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Speaker 4: doesn't really too much to their coaches. Okay, well and

608
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Speaker 4: it's not. And I'm sure it's not every coach.

609
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Speaker 2: I'd just be interested.

610
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Speaker 4: But some coaches that push back, well, that really hasn't.

611
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Speaker 4: Like Mike said, you know, we're talking about a season

612
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Speaker 4: plus two weeks where the data I.

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Speaker 3: Thought that I was being a hard o for saying that,

614
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Speaker 3: and I appreciate the support on that point. I really

615
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Speaker 3: don't try to like get too carried away with any

616
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Speaker 3: stats right now.

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Speaker 4: Well, and that's like the whole thing with like, and

618
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Speaker 4: I know part of it is reputation, but we're you know,

619
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Speaker 4: going back to the Steelers and you're looking at it

620
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Speaker 4: and you're like, well, wow, like two teams were able

621
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Speaker 4: to really throw the ball on them, and the Jets

622
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Speaker 4: were able to run all over them. I don't think

623
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Speaker 4: Seattle had as much success running as it's sort of

624
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Speaker 4: I mean, one hundred and seventeen yards, it's kind of

625
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 4: a pedestrian day running the ball. But Kenneth certainly had

626
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 4: a great day, averaging eight yards to carry. So you

627
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 4: sort of look at that and say, like, well, is

628
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 4: that what Pittsburgh is now? Are they just not going

629
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Speaker 4: to be a good defense this year or it's just

630
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 4: a tough start to the season and maybe the Jets

631
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Speaker 4: did some things that really caught him off, you know,

632
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Speaker 4: new quarterback with a different style of play. You know,

633
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Speaker 4: I don't know if we have enough to go on.

634
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: So heading into the week, I was thinking, you know,

635
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 4: everybody's going to be like, this is a great defense

636
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 4: for the Patriots to be facing. Now, you know, I

637
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 4: think Pittsburgh's gonna you know, like TJ. Watt to me,

638
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 4: I'd be very surprised if he has a quiet day Sunday.

639
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 4: He's had a pretty quiet start to the season. But

640
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 4: then I'm looking at all these guys, you know, Joey

641
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 4: Porter and Deshaun Elliott haven't played yet, or I haven't

642
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 4: played much. Derek Harmon hasn't played at all, Alex Highsmith's

643
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 4: a pretty good edge linebacker. He's going to be out

644
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 4: of this game with the high ankle sprain. Maybe this

645
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 4: is going to be another week that Pittsburgh's defense struggles.

646
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're embodying like what I said at the top

647
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 3: of like, there's just so many conflicting thoughts that I

648
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: have about this team in this matchup historically and based

649
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: on the first two weeks that I don't know, I

650
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: just don't feel like.

651
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: I have a good beat on it. Everything you guys.

652
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 4: Tell, I mean, we're a new team, really, and so

653
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Speaker 4: you know, yeah, one guy I would say after, is

654
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 4: there a new team?

655
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Speaker 3: I know we mentioned him yesterday, but I'd like to

656
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: see Anthony Jennings active again. And I think he's a

657
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: useful piece against the big, physical team like this, And

658
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Speaker 3: you just seeing Jennings get out there, you're reminded that

659
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Speaker 3: he has an NFL skill set of being a really

660
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Speaker 3: tough sob on that edge, you know, and it's it's

661
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Speaker 3: just a good thing to have, especially when you never

662
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Speaker 3: know how a game is going to unfold.

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Speaker 1: You know you can count on him for that.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious how it lines up if ke On White's

665
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Speaker 3: back from his illness of last week? Is Keyon White

666
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Speaker 3: take a step back or is he right back in there?

667
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Speaker 3: But I really liked what I saw from anphony Jennings.

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Speaker 3: I think he'd be useful this week.

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Speaker 2: Sounds good, all right? Jack writes in about the game

670
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Speaker 2: kind of about the game. He says, to prepare for

671
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: the game, the PU team should play stud or stiff.

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Speaker 2: For each of the five stealers below. Each member of

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Speaker 2: the team must declare whether he is a stud or

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Speaker 2: a stiff. It must be one or the other, no

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Speaker 2: middle ground.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's a tough game.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers stiff Stiff really became Metcalf stud John Smith.

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Speaker 4: See this is that That's exactly the guy I was

679
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Speaker 4: thinking of. I'm gonna have to say stud. But I

680
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Speaker 4: don't think he's a stud. But he's not a stiff.

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Speaker 2: Maybe stud against our d.

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Speaker 4: He's closer to a stud than a stiff. So I'm

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Speaker 4: going to go stud.

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Speaker 2: T J Watt Stud Jalen Ramsey.

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Speaker 1: He's getting stiffy.

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Speaker 4: You closer to us.

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Speaker 1: He's like the opposite of Johnny John is closer to stud.

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Speaker 1: I'd say they're both.

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Speaker 4: I would say is closer to stud than stiff. But

690
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Speaker 4: he's not a stud anymore. That's a good game though.

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Speaker 2: Coaching matchup. Do they have the edge?

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think something. I mean, I mean you

693
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Speaker 4: should like, I don't think we should be going into

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Speaker 4: games thinking the other team has the coaching edge anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, we'll see.

696
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Speaker 3: I mean, we gotta get a sa ample size under

697
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Speaker 3: Vrabel and start to understand what his teams, what his

698
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Speaker 3: teams play like.

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's just like again, it's just hard

700
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Speaker 1: to know what are you going to see?

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Speaker 3: Is are rabel team's going to be consistent and pretty

702
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Speaker 3: close to getting better each week, or are they going

703
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Speaker 3: to be the kind of team that's up and down

704
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Speaker 3: and it was good last week and then this week

705
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Speaker 3: they're going to come home and maybe it isn't this.

706
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Speaker 4: Like I knew the point that everyone was making when

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Speaker 4: he was talking about, you know, Josh McDaniel's familiarity with

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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh and then Rabel with Arthur Smith, but I think

709
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Speaker 4: that's kind of negated. I think obviously Tomlin has immense

710
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Speaker 4: knowledge of the Patriots, and Arthur Smith knows Rabel like

711
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Speaker 4: anything you have. Rabel to Smith. Smith has the Rabel like.

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Speaker 3: Especially on they weren't looking at it, were together like

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Speaker 3: looking at the Patriots defense now, Arthur Smith obviously a

714
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Speaker 3: lot of what hentime.

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Speaker 4: So to answer your question, Freddie, I don't think that

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Speaker 4: the Steelers have an edge, but I don't look at

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Speaker 4: the Patriots having an edge either, right. I think there's

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Speaker 4: probably two good coaching staffs. Yeah, you know, I don't

719
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Speaker 4: think kind of like the first game of the year,

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Speaker 4: you know, with with Pete Carroll and look at that

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Speaker 4: as a huge edge for the Patriots either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, eight five five Pats five hundred is the

723
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Speaker 2: hot line podcast at Patriots dot com. Is the way

724
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Speaker 2: to email us. I'll remind everyone that at around twelve

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Speaker 2: fifty five we'll go to Mike Rabel Live. We'll do

726
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Speaker 2: his press conference. Good thing we did that last week

727
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Speaker 2: because there was like breaking news we found out about

728
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: Carell Williams during that press conference. So you never know

729
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Speaker 2: what's what's gonna happen during the press conference.

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Speaker 3: So we did hear from Rabele on Monday saying that

731
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Speaker 3: Turtles will be back in a round, But it doesn't sound.

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Speaker 1: Like he's fully back back.

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Speaker 3: He's around, but I don't know if he's resuming his

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Speaker 3: full duties still.

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Speaker 2: Have Zach k place Zach. Yeah, what was I about

736
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Speaker 2: to say? I forget?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 2: And then what did Evan go? Not sure?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna hang for the first It's like.

741
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Speaker 2: Locker rooms after rape, right, So why is he leaning

742
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Speaker 2: at twelve thirty? I don't know, get in line for Diggs.

743
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Speaker 1: What's going Maybe Barth the mergency or something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because if Mike isn't until twelve giving a rush

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Speaker 4: to the.

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Speaker 3: Hospital, that's Cardi Cardi B alex B Cardi B. No,

747
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure we'll find out.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you just got it, because Mike is twelve fifty five, right, Yeah, locker.

749
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Speaker 1: Room one time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

751
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: He just like ran out. I don't know.

752
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: Maybe felt like he emptied the clip of football knowledge

753
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: today after catch twenty two and you have nothing more

754
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Speaker 3: to say.

755
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Speaker 4: I don't think that Evans ever emptied the clip before.

756
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Speaker 2: All right, let's start off with Anthony and Seattle. What's up, Anthony?

757
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Speaker 4: Hey, what's up my people?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 9: I checked the forecast.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a beautiful weekend for.

761
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Speaker 9: My first trip to Boston. It's also gonna be nice

762
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Speaker 9: in Foxborough. But Fred Hey, we're staying in Boston, so

763
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Speaker 9: obviously we're you know, we're gonna be seeing the city

764
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Speaker 9: and all that stuff on Saturday and then driving out

765
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Speaker 9: the Foxboro for the game on Sunday. But when they

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Speaker 9: have a vinch like that, isn't there probably a good

767
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Speaker 9: chance that they'd have them as like guests at the

768
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Speaker 9: game and maybe do a little something that at halftime.

769
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Speaker 9: I will be pretty cool to see jewels at halftime.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you will see jewels at halftime. Parcels won't be there.

771
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Speaker 2: He can only be here for Saturday, but they will

772
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Speaker 2: honor Julian at halftime of the game.

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Speaker 9: Nice.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 9: So I just want to I never do this, but

776
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Speaker 9: I did want to follow up on my call from yesterday.

777
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Speaker 9: I didn't get a chance to make my point before

778
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Speaker 9: Paul jumped in there, and then I wanted to give

779
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Speaker 9: duces flowers. But hey, Paul, all I was trying to

780
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Speaker 9: say is that when Patriots fans have done that in

781
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Speaker 9: the past with the blank amount of offensive points, you

782
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Speaker 9: made a very good point that I agree with, is

783
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Speaker 9: that that's one less possession for an offense that you

784
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Speaker 9: haven't really stopped. And so the same way I thought

785
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Speaker 9: Miami scored around thirty because their offense played well. The

786
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Speaker 9: Patris scored around thirty because they're typically when your offense

787
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Speaker 9: is playing well, you know, thirty points is kind of

788
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 9: you're going to be in that thirty point or better range.

789
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Speaker 9: So we can agree to disagree, but that was all

790
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Speaker 9: I was saying. We're as reduced, So as reduced, you

791
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 9: might not want these flowers because of how we're feeling

792
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Speaker 9: about the defense as a whole. And I agree, know

793
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 9: they got it, tighten it up and maybe Gonza will

794
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 9: help with that stuff. However, you know, you were on

795
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Speaker 9: this and I got this was it was cool to

796
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Speaker 9: see it come to fruition. But you know this that

797
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Speaker 9: first of all, the defensive stop to close out a game.

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Speaker 9: We've been looking for that stop for five you know,

799
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Speaker 9: for five years. But I just I specifically remember when

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Speaker 9: uh Rabo first came and was, you know, bringing in

801
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 9: all the new faces, and you on this show said,

802
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 9: it feels like they're they're they're building a defense that

803
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 9: has the ability, uh to deliver a CounterPunch and you know,

804
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Speaker 9: not sit back and keep everything in front and wait

805
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Speaker 9: for mistake. And yes, Miami helped out with some of

806
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Speaker 9: the down and distance situation. But the bottom line is

807
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 9: with the you know, two fourth down stops game on

808
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 9: the line, you're getting multipook pressures back interception like that

809
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 9: is the definition of delivering a counter punch to an

810
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Speaker 9: offense that's moved the ball up and down the field

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Speaker 9: on you all all game long. And I think I

812
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Speaker 9: think we're starting to have a little bit of that

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Speaker 9: fun that you were talking about a few years ago.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks Anthony, I was fun. I was fun

815
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Speaker 1: on Saturday. Yeah, I just I just wish it wasn't

816
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Speaker 1: so I think we would.

817
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Speaker 4: I knew you were going to do that way I

818
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 4: could tell my.

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Speaker 1: Well, I just it needs to be more consistent.

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Speaker 3: And I mean we said it coming out of training

821
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: camp that you know, it seems like this is going

822
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Speaker 3: to be a lot of boom er busts. They're going

823
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: to make a big play, they're going to give up

824
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: a big play, and it's kind of been exactly that,

825
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 3: So you know, you want them to find a middle ground,

826
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Speaker 3: but at the same time make those big plays and

827
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: those you know, game ending plays are huge. So you

828
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: know that, I think that gives us a little positive

829
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: vibe about it all. But you know, when you look

830
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Speaker 3: at the real pressure and at all it was kind

831
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: of too doing what he wanted for three quarters.

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Speaker 1: So uh, you know me, I like, I try, I

833
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: try to stay balanced, but.

834
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Speaker 2: I only scored great points.

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Speaker 4: They did that. The bottom line is they only scored

836
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Speaker 4: twenty points, and I don't think that they played defense

837
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 4: that would you know, sort of lead you to believe

838
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Speaker 4: they were only scored in twenty But that's all they scored.

839
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Speaker 4: And they were able to take advantage of the second

840
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Speaker 4: and third opportunities they got and they closed it out.

841
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Speaker 4: That's why I think that, like the most exciting part

842
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: for me was when they've been in that situation in

843
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 4: the past, they would you know, it wouldn't matter, like

844
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 4: they would just okay, so we got to go, we

845
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: got to do this again, and they would just do

846
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 4: it again. Well this time, you know, guy steps out

847
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: of bounds, get a couple of penalties. The Patriots closed

848
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 4: it out. That's me was the big difference. You know

849
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 4: that the Patriots came through and made the plays when

850
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 4: they had to. That's why all the stuff that went

851
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 4: wrong I acknowledge. I'm not ignoring it. I'm just not

852
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: ready to talk about it now because it was such

853
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 4: a departure from what we've seen for three years now,

854
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 4: two plus seasons, Like they couldn't get those stops against

855
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Speaker 4: the Raiders even in week one. From Week one to

856
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 4: week two, they got the stops. When the Raiders got

857
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Speaker 4: the ball back at the end of the game up

858
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Speaker 4: a score, they're throwing bombs over Carlton Davis to continue

859
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 4: the you know, chew the clock up. This week they

860
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 4: were able to stop them twice. That's that's big progress.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Listen, nothing says football season like firing up the

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Speaker 2: grill in the backyard and having a cookout. And the

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Speaker 3: Starting to wind down the grassroom mowent a little bit now, Yeah,

870
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 3: starts to get cooler.

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00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really need it, because I told you I

872
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: was planning on doing it last weekend and I didn't

873
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 4: now I'm like scrambling. I'm not gonna be able to

874
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Speaker 4: do it this weekend. I don't need an an. There's

875
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Speaker 4: a power right through, even if it's a little long.

876
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 4: That's what you know.

877
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: When you wait too long, then you know my mower

878
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: it's not an errand so I probably need to get

879
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: one because.

880
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: It struggles when the grass, you know, and they said

881
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: by a week or two.

882
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 4: And it doesn't get along to the point where I

883
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: can't mow it.

884
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: No, no do errate and thatch. In this fall, I

885
00:37:58,719 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: try to thatch a little bit.

886
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: I try to thatch. I haven't overseated yet, but maybe

887
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: next year. Don't do that. In the spring, I don't

888
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: do anything.

889
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: You don't do any of that.

890
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: No, mine's all just weeds and I just mow it.

891
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: And I've just moted enough. There's nothing.

892
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 4: It's nothing like when you mow it and it's like

893
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 4: maybe like twilight, you know, a little dark, not quite dark,

894
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 4: but you look and you're like, yeah, I know, hunt,

895
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 4: I know how long looks fantastic because you don't see

896
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 4: all the little bear spots all the right, just dark

897
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 4: enough that it all looks not set.

898
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 3: Out on the front steps and watching them like it

899
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: almost like a golf course out there.

900
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 4: Right now, You like that like an hour after you

901
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 4: mow it, But when then you get up at like

902
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 4: ten o'clock the next morning, you're like.

903
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: Different. And yeah, all.

904
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: Right, let's go to Eddie Eddie in l A on

905
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: the hotline. What's up Eddie.

906
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 10: Eddie's going guys? I just wanted to ask real quick.

907
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 8: I know Evan.

908
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 10: I think it was Evan that just said that, like

909
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 10: he's not really worried about Jay Warren. And obviously Devon

910
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 10: a Shen is like a different animal. He's highly explosive.

911
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 10: But I also don't know if the defense is, you know,

912
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 10: fast enough to cover the good pass catching running backs.

913
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 10: And I just don't want to see JAYL. Warren have

914
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 10: a big game because last week he did have like

915
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 10: an explosive catch that he took for like fifty yards

916
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 10: I think, and then the week before he did have

917
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 10: a receiving touchdown. So I just want to know what

918
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 10: you got. How do you guys think like you could

919
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 10: shut down Jenla Warren in the passing game. That's all

920
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 10: I got for you, guys.

921
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks, that's a good question, and I would definitely

922
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 3: look it's the Patriots linebackers are you know, a very

923
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 3: low you've got You've got to target them. If I'm Pittsburgh,

924
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 3: I've got to test that out. So you know, I

925
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 3: would find a way to use John new Smith, use

926
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 3: Jalen Warren and try to get them matched up. I

927
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: think some of it is a little bit of scheme,

928
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 3: and you know, Splaine just put in tough, tough spots

929
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 3: with you know, in space. I mean, there's not a

930
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: lot of linebackers in the league that can man up

931
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 3: on Devin Hm. Well, he's already got a little bit

932
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 3: of ahead of steam. So you know, hopefully those guys

933
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: start to getting gear. I mean, I think it's critical

934
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: for the for the defense, and I just it's been

935
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,959
Speaker 3: a couple of tough matchups right out of the gate.

936
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 3: There's been some issues. Trying to be patient, but I'd

937
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: expect Steelers to target.

938
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: Him for sure. Middle of the field.

939
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: Middle of the field. Yeah, okay, let's go to Providence, Randy.

940
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, how's it going to that?

941
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 6: So?

942
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, I called to ask I word about Roberts Blaine.

943
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 11: I mean, through two games, his production just hasn't been

944
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 11: what you saw on Vegas and I mean I think that, like,

945
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 11: not only is the a liability and coverage, but there

946
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 11: are times that he's just almost wortting lost out there,

947
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 11: like it's just not sure where he needs to be.

948
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 11: He's kind of floating around the action but not really

949
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 11: part of it. And I wonder if you guys are

950
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 11: concerned about like his fit in this defense. And then

951
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 11: you guys were talking about Jalen Ramsey earlier, and I mean,

952
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 11: I think that he's getting a little older. He's on

953
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 11: the wrong side of thirty, but he's done playing like

954
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 11: with his air on fire. In the past couple of

955
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 11: games from Pittsburgh, if you're watching those games, well off,

956
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 11: he's hit the hard pass break up left and right. Uh,

957
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 11: he have the Garrett Wilson one that sealed the game,

958
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 11: but he had a couple more last week too, and

959
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 11: in an interception, And I just wonder, like, how you

960
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 11: think we're gonna deal with him?

961
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: I almost I mean on Spleen, I almost thought the opposite.

962
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: I wonder if he's overthinking things and just getting too

963
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 3: much in his own head and just just play, dude.

964
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: You you're you know you're a good linebacker. You've tackled people.

965
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 3: Before, uh, you know, trying to force turnovers, trying to

966
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 3: you know, launch himself and then he gets to the tackle.

967
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: We know that play I'm talking about. Uh, I we

968
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: go in the locker room today. He usually he's talked.

969
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: I think last Wednesday he talked To'll be curious to

970
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: get by his locker to hear him talk. I mean, catain,

971
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 3: he should, he should talk. And somebody else pointed out

972
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 3: what I pointed out yesterday that I think was Reese

973
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 3: actually just saying. The look on Robert Splaine's face after

974
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: that game was not somebody who was excited about that.

975
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: They just want a game, So I mean, don't worry

976
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: about the extremely upset that.

977
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: They don't worry about the big hit, just settle.

978
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: In and play.

979
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 4: Get out to his point, though, like I have noticed,

980
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 4: he seems to like out of position at times, especially

981
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 4: in the run game, you know, like he's jumping gaps

982
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 4: and picking the wrong one. And I'm not sure, you know,

983
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. Obviously, I'm not privy to what the

984
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 4: calls are and what he's spoke, you know, what his

985
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 4: his job description is, but it does seem like he's

986
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 4: taking himself out of some plays as well, as some

987
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 4: of the mistackles that Mike is talking about. It's a

988
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 4: couple of games. He's obviously familiar with his defense. He's

989
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 4: played in it before. So again I'm going to go

990
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: back to that small sample sized thing. It hasn't been good.

991
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to sugarcoat it. He hasn't played well. No,

992
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 4: but but I know what you're saying, play than this.

993
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, on that eight chance touchdown where you know, it's

994
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 3: like he set closer to the sideline like he's kind

995
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 3: of waiting, and it's like the model of the middle

996
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: of the field is wide open, and you know, like

997
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: we talked about the that that should have been the priority.

998
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 3: Like I'd rather force two or to throw the out

999
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: than to throw just a little slant across the middle,

1000
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 3: easy pass and then it's a sixth.

1001
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not going to get two worked up.

1002
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I know no one is more sad than

1003
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: Robertspaline about this.

1004
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 3: That's why I think would be interesting to hear from

1005
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 3: today and see what his mindset is.

1006
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: Joan into this week.

1007
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: Sounds good, Cody writes in props to the first caller yesterday,

1008
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: forty minutes into the show, talking about the Dolphins game,

1009
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 2: He asked, so, what did you think of the game?

1010
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: Question for today? What do you think about the Steelers game?

1011
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: What we've been talking about Cody. He's been all over

1012
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: me though, he's been writing all these nasty emails. I

1013
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: love it about shortening the pregame, show us that you were.

1014
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 4: Going to do that we actually did, you.

1015
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: Know, he always been all over me.

1016
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 4: That's the one guy.

1017
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: I think the our Frea game is great, you know what.

1018
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 4: I know. What I really like, though, is the the

1019
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 4: increase of Cody is the latest of the caller on

1020
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 4: cod Crime, the emailer email.

1021
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: I love it for absolutely. Darius Sis Spallaine actually looks

1022
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: like an undrafted player so far. I hope he cleans

1023
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 2: it up. Yeah, I mean he we know he can

1024
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 2: do it. He's so let's just yeah, just get get

1025
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: right here.

1026
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: I think it was just so surprising as he just

1027
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: exudes such confidence, and I mean he has the stats

1028
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 3: from the last couple of years. I mean, the guy's

1029
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: all over the field making tackles, you know, so at

1030
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 3: the very least I thought he'd be able to do that.

1031
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: The hope for me was, alright, he's going to be

1032
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 1: a tackling machine.

1033
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: But is he going to be able to have the

1034
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 3: tackles for loss, the passes, defense, the you know, pressures

1035
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 3: and they have been using him as a pass rusher

1036
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 3: a little bit, so he has he has delivered.

1037
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: Some of that, but you know, the other stuff, not

1038
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: really at all.

1039
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: Yep, David writes in He's from the Philippines. Uh, this

1040
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: is my worry about this week's game. Good Pittsburgh has

1041
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: only been called for six penalties totaling forty one yards

1042
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: so far this season. That's tied for the least penalties

1043
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: called against in the entire NFL. Unfortunately, our team has

1044
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 2: had twenty one penalties in two games, which is tied

1045
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: for second worst. We really need to clean up the mistakes.

1046
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: We got away with twelve penalties against Miami in large

1047
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: part because they also made a lot of mistakes. They

1048
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: had ten penalties on their side, so we only were

1049
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: two behind. Pittsburgh won't likely do that if we can

1050
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,959
Speaker 2: find a way to clean up our act and play

1051
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: with minimum errors, and I think we have a shot.

1052
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: If we continue to shoot ourselves in the head every

1053
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: four or five plays, we won't. So it's interesting because

1054
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: Rabel was talking about that, and he was saying that,

1055
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: you know, his metrics, his key metrics aren't the team

1056
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: with the least amount of penalties. It's quarterback rating, it's

1057
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: run differential, and I think one other things and turnovers.

1058
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 4: That's win rate, win rate.

1059
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: And then you know, and he mentioned the stat with

1060
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: you know, he said he looked it up and teams

1061
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: that have the more penalties, you know, win lose at

1062
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: about fifty percent. It's I think they lose at about

1063
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: fifty three percent, so they only win forty but it

1064
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 2: is around fifty percent where those other metrics he mentioned,

1065
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: it is a big difference in win rate.

1066
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: Well, when you're not the most talented team, I think

1067
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 3: you can afford to live in the margins a little

1068
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 3: bit more. And for a new team that you're trying

1069
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: to instill, you know, one hand, you want them to

1070
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: be aggressive and tough and snarly and all those things

1071
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: that they're trying to put into this defense and you know,

1072
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 3: and offense personality wise, but you've got to be able

1073
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 3: to clean.

1074
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: Up those things.

1075
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: So even if you know it's not the biggest priority obviously,

1076
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: especially being at home, help a little bit.

1077
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: Too in Pittsburgh or you know, They've always been a

1078
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 2: highly you know, in the past, when they were really good,

1079
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: they had a lot of penalty Yeah, you know, but

1080
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: they were so good that could overcome it. When you're

1081
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 2: a middling team or not too good, you can't afford

1082
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: any mistake. I would just say, even the slightest off side,

1083
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: just the rails everything.

1084
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: Look at the Dolphins last week.

1085
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 4: You know, I heard my talking about that and he said,

1086
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 4: you know, early in his coaching career in Tennessee, he

1087
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 4: was considered himself a little bit of a playoff nazi.

1088
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 4: Like he got he went out of his mind playoff

1089
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 4: a penalty. Sorry, yes, And he went back and he looked,

1090
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: I just feel like that that is so short sighted,

1091
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 4: like to suggest, well, we went back and looked at

1092
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 4: the data. The team that had more penalties doesn't necessarily lose. Well, like, so,

1093
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 4: does that mean you should try to commit penalties?

1094
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: Like, No, that's not what he's saying.

1095
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 4: So he has his three win rate things right. So

1096
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 4: on Sunday, just out of you know, your quarterback played

1097
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 4: the best game of his career and won the quarterback

1098
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 4: rating battle. You were plus one in turnovers, and you

1099
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 4: had double the rushing yardage. So why do we need

1100
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 4: to go down to the last play of the game.

1101
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 4: Maybe because we committed twelve penalties? Yeah, like everything is important,

1102
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 4: like to see. And I know that Mike is not

1103
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 4: saying penalties aren't important. I know that's not what he's saying.

1104
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 4: But I just thought that was a little bit of

1105
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 4: a lase fair attitude to it. The penalties. I think, well,

1106
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 4: that's not really you know, an indicator of winning. Well, yeah,

1107
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 4: I know, like did you play better or not? Like

1108
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 4: that's usually the indicator of winning.

1109
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: Knowing him, he's trying to he's probably trying to nip

1110
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: that narrative in the bud and a week long thing

1111
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: that you know, penalties, penalties, penalties, and he's trying to

1112
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 2: but you know, I can't imagine he does. He doesn't

1113
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: care if his team.

1114
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 4: Yeah that's what I said. I'm not suggesting that he

1115
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 4: doesn't care about penalties, right, I just thought there was

1116
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 4: some of the some of the explanation to me was

1117
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 4: a little short sighted. That's not a good way to

1118
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 4: go about business. And was that a press conference or

1119
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 4: was on the I think it was on the radio.

1120
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: The radio.

1121
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 3: It was one of the how he talks to his

1122
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 3: team about it or you know, like he'd asked a

1123
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: question and don't.

1124
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: Worry about the penalty.

1125
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 4: I mean, no, No, there is an element like and

1126
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 4: it's not really nowadays because you can't really you can't

1127
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 4: really play with an intimidating you know, nature like you

1128
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 4: used to. But the Raiders that was part of their DNA, right.

1129
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 4: You know, we're going to commit penalties, We're gonna kind

1130
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 4: of do it intentionally because we're going to try to intimidate,

1131
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 4: and that's how you know we're gonna end up winning

1132
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 4: games as a result. I mean, teams don't really do

1133
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 4: that anymore.

1134
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: Well, the rules don't allow.

1135
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

1136
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: You're gonna get kicked out if you do what they did.

1137
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 4: Uh.

1138
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 2: Sean is in Virginia. Yeah, what's up, Sean?

1139
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: How you guys doing, Sean?

1140
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's two point I want to make. Like the

1141
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 12: first one is like, uh, like when I kept reirating

1142
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 12: about like how the reason why the Patreparon was able

1143
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 12: to replicate the success that the coach were able to

1144
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 12: do against the Dolphins, I keep talking about the linebackers.

1145
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 12: Libreck is not able to cover very well, move very well,

1146
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 12: you know, and uh, and the safety player is not

1147
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 12: as as great, so like say, it would be hard

1148
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 12: for them and got like tours as far as try

1149
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 12: to attack the zone. Uh and despite where he likes

1150
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 12: to go in to the middle of the field. Now

1151
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 12: with the second point, like the attack is that, I

1152
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 12: really think they should really play Kyrie wins in this

1153
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 12: game because that's certain things that I see with Jay

1154
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 12: with Dylan Ramsey, like, I feel like they can attack him,

1155
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 12: especially if he's playing safety in this game because he's

1156
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 12: so sipping. He struggled against the shifty with our receivers, uh,

1157
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 12: you know with the certain zones, just like where he

1158
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 12: got beat on that touchdown on the right side by

1159
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 12: that by Smith a jig. But I think one of

1160
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 12: those receivers, I forget their name, but I really think

1161
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 12: they should play Hie wins this game because of that.

1162
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 12: That's all I wanted to say.

1163
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Sean to Shawn, Okay, yeah, all right, okay, yeah,

1164
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope the coaches are listening. Get him

1165
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 2: out to get the game plan here right on Patriots Unfiltered.

1166
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 3: Well, I think they tried to take a shot to him,

1167
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 3: like the second play of the game where they had

1168
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 3: like three tight ends and he was the only receiver

1169
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 3: out and was.

1170
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 4: The very slow developing pass was a deep ball designed

1171
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 4: for him that he got sacked.

1172
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: Only guy on the route, only guy on the route.

1173
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 2: Danny's and Daytona d.

1174
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1175
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah.

1176
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 13: So I just had a couple of takes for you guys.

1177
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 13: I wanted to say I didn't get to call in

1178
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 13: on Tuesday, but UH, I wanted to mention that I was.

1179
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 13: I was pleased with the performance on Tuesday or Sunday,

1180
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 13: but I did not like UH the first week's game

1181
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 13: with the Raiders. I agree with everybody's take on how

1182
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 13: they should have won that game, but I'm glad they

1183
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 13: turned it around. There's a couple of things I wanted

1184
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 13: to mention with you guys. Paul, one of one of

1185
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 13: your guys from your show was talking about UH about

1186
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 13: how they should have just ran it back with Gerraw

1187
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 13: because the defense looks just about the same as it

1188
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 13: did last year. I know there are some new guys,

1189
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 13: the communication it just looks terrible. And I don't know

1190
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 13: if Mike Rabel should just call plays until Terrell's back

1191
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 13: or what they should do, or maybe they should bring

1192
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 13: an advisor and I don't know, it doesn't look great.

1193
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 12: It doesn't look good at all.

1194
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 13: And then the other take, did you guys see freaking

1195
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 13: Taekwon Thornton? So what is up with all these Patriots

1196
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 13: players leading the Patriots? Those are the chiefs and they

1197
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 13: look like real NFL players?

1198
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 2: Is this something?

1199
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 13: Is it just a lack that we can't develop skill

1200
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 13: players or like? What is that?

1201
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 2: So?

1202
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 4: I don't think they're being very many of those rank

1203
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I would say John Smith would be the

1204
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 4: example of one of those guys that success he left,

1205
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 4: But I mean for everyone of those, I can come

1206
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 4: up with a you know, Juju who's done nothing since

1207
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 4: he left.

1208
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: And Taekwony, like everything I've seen, looks like a different person.

1209
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 4: I'm sorry he's he's made some big plays for them,

1210
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 4: he's been just like you would think Mahomes can make

1211
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 4: anybody look good. I'm going to give Mahomes the credit

1212
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 4: for that rather than you know Thornton. But that's me

1213
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 4: being stubborn exact. But like Nikhil Harry, like he had

1214
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 4: a couple of opportunities elsewhere, did he ever look any like?

1215
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 4: I don't think there are very many guys that skill

1216
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 4: position guys I'm talking about that have left and gone

1217
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: on to greener pastors and all of a sudden, But geez,

1218
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 4: he couldn't do anything here. Jakobe Myers did exactly what

1219
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 4: he's doing with the Raiders. He did with the Patriots.

1220
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, he's one that. Yeah, I mean, he's

1221
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: done with everybody. I meant John Raiders. Yeah, I mean,

1222
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:48,959
Speaker 1: but but.

1223
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: He was a good player here, and he's a good

1224
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: player there.

1225
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 4: He was good. That's good, that's perfectly poet. I mean

1226
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 4: he's he's still good.

1227
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just in.

1228
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 3: He's still good, right, And I mean he would have

1229
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: been worth the money he able to paid because he

1230
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 3: would have been.

1231
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: But the amount of guys who weren't good here that

1232
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: ended up being good on other teams, that's a small,

1233
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 2: much smaller list.

1234
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, And lately, like in the last four or five years,

1235
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 4: there have been some guys that have left and they've succeeded,

1236
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 4: but not like the skilled guy like the wide receivers

1237
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 4: is what we're talking about. Aston Barrier, I'm going to

1238
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 4: be very surprised to see. Yeah, that's not only was

1239
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 4: he's done nothing like Nelson, you know, Nelson Agalor I.

1240
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: Mean a little bit.

1241
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 4: They're just like there, Like Agalore isn't any different than

1242
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 4: he was in the Patriots. He's a second secondary guy.

1243
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 4: He's like a fourth receiver.

1244
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 8: You know.

1245
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 4: You could make an argument, well, he's on a better

1246
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 4: team now, so that's why he's just like hanging on

1247
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 4: in the league.

1248
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. One thing I do want to push back a

1249
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: little bit about the defense. Yes, the numbers say that

1250
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: they're having the same problems they had last year, but

1251
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: if I look at elements of this defense this year,

1252
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: I can see where they could be better. Yeah, and

1253
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: not just like on paper. I mean Landry and Milton

1254
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: Williams in the middle and and Barbara being back healthy.

1255
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: I think eventually you're going to see a better defense

1256
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: than you saw last year. Now that's a low bar, right,

1257
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: but but I think you're going to see a better.

1258
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 4: Basically turn the whole unit over.

1259
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 12: Right.

1260
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: But right now he's saying, oh, you might as well

1261
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: have had the same defense as I think right now,

1262
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 2: right right, But I think you're going to see eventually

1263
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 2: that this this defense gets better.

1264
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 4: I think so, I mean, I mean it'll be better.

1265
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they I mean they have some talent now, and

1266
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 3: they just have to come together and again two games

1267
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: like to hear what they have to.

1268
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: Say about it. Those guy's in the locker room.

1269
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 8: Yep.

1270
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 2: So we're getting on. Uh, we're coming up to Variable

1271
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 2: pretty soon. So up here we go. So I think

1272
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: we need to go to vrabel Alex Is that right?

1273
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 2: Maybe not not yet?

1274
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,959
Speaker 1: Okay, scribes are ready, scribes are waiting.

1275
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: The scribes are ready, but he's not there yet.

1276
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 4: Okay, there's a live look in from one of my shows.

1277
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what everybody wants to see, the backheads of

1278
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: the media.

1279
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 2: I just want to make sure we it's I'm just

1280
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 2: not mine, you know. While we're waiting.

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00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely with those on runs.

1304
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 4: That's what I'm gonna have to do. These are my

1305
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 4: new uh my new snow boots. Yes, So I don't

1306
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 4: want them to be too nice that I don't feel comfortable,

1307
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 4: you know, cleaning my.

1308
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 2: Yards very comfortable.

1309
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 1: It's all on you know, Paul, you know you no help?

1310
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and a lot has changed in that regard me too,

1311
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 4: my too useless. But I can't even call the other

1312
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 4: one a putting pop anymore for what he's doing right now.

1313
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's he's got a he's got a pretty

1314
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: good tough.

1315
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 4: To get to talk to. Him last night. His voice

1316
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 4: is all raspy. It's so funny.

1317
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: Used to get yelled at uh Low and Philly.

1318
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 2: Small note on Stevenson's two point conversion Sunday. It was

1319
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 2: one of my favorite plays of the game, simply for

1320
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: the offensive lines, excitement.

1321
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: After great that's a great call out, Wilson.

1322
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 2: Bradbury and on when you moved Miami's D line to

1323
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 2: another zip code and after the play the excite and

1324
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 2: Jared Wilson showed was contagious.

1325
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: Yep, I agree, I agree. I clocked that too. It's

1326
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: a good call out.

1327
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 6: It was.

1328
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 3: It was cool to see, and you know, it's just

1329
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 3: you know, Jared Wilson had been on the journey with

1330
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 3: him a little bit, didn't know what to expect of him.

1331
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 3: People were very high on his athleticism, thought he was

1332
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 3: going to be a center, had kind of a position

1333
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 3: battle all summer, and.

1334
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 4: It's true, I thought he would be starting at center

1335
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 4: and the guard.

1336
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 3: But it's you know, it's it's always fun to see

1337
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 3: how this point, how they fit in where they're going

1338
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 3: to end up. And you know, there was even a

1339
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 3: period of time where people are like, is he even

1340
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 3: the right guy? And you know, just to see him

1341
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 3: have a kind of tough game last week and then

1342
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 3: come in this week and and have that play to

1343
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 3: kind of seal it off and you can just see

1344
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 3: the again. For me, it's all about just building confidence

1345
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 3: and building belief, and those are plays where I really

1346
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 3: feel like you see it coming off the field with

1347
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 3: those guys.

1348
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff. Let's see Matt and Wichita Kansas. If

1349
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: you're saying we should expect a lot of man and

1350
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: a lot of blitzing from Pittsburgh, do you think this

1351
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: is a good game to sneak in a little Kyle Williams.

1352
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: He would likely be up against their third best pass coverage,

1353
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 2: and I don't think the league has really seen what

1354
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: he can do. I think he's the best downfield threat

1355
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: on the team, and the Patriots haven't really shown him yet.

1356
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 3: Well, I think that they tried to on that second play,

1357
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 3: and I think that's just a little glimpse of you know,

1358
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 3: how Josh I think, is gonna try to sneak him

1359
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 3: in struggling think him back like of former draft picks

1360
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 3: that made the team, and we're going to develop and

1361
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 3: play and how Josh got them into the system, got

1362
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 3: them experience, when they were young.

1363
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 8: You know.

1364
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 3: Edelman is like a weird example because he kind of

1365
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 3: got thrown into the mix when Woker got hurt like

1366
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 3: week two, and yeah, you know, yeah, I agree, it's

1367
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 3: kind of tough. So I don't know, maybe you guys,

1368
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 3: maybe that's something that you guys.

1369
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 4: I mean, McDaniels, they haven't developed a lot of I receivers.

1370
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: In a long time.

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00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 4: You know, was McDaniels here from Malcolm Mitchell? Is that

1372
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 4: like helped me out with my timeline. So he you know,

1373
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 4: he was he was injured a little bit, but he

1374
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 4: I mean he he probably contributed as much as a

1375
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 4: rookie as any any of the rookie receivers did. He

1376
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 4: would be one in that positive category. For the most part,

1377
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 4: it's been a struggle. I mean, it's well documented they

1378
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 4: haven't done well at that position. You know, we'll see

1379
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 4: if it's any different with Kyle Williams. I don't really

1380
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 4: I agree that he could be a good downfield option

1381
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 4: for them if they're looking to stretch the field, But otherwise,

1382
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 4: I'm kind of comfortable with sort of the three for

1383
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 4: four spots that they have going, you know, and if

1384
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 4: they have different game plan ideas with Mac Collins and

1385
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 4: to Mario Douglas. That made perfect sense to me. Even

1386
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 4: an idiot like me who's not breaking down the x's

1387
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 4: and o's, I can understand what we wanted to be

1388
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 4: a little bit more physical. We wanted to sort of

1389
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 4: be more versatile out of you know, some of these formations,

1390
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 4: and we wanted to make something look the same run pass.

1391
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 4: You know, with with Douglas on the field, you probably

1392
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 4: pretty much know it's pass because he's not going to

1393
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 4: be as you know, effective in the blocking game. So

1394
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 4: with Mac Collins you might get a little bit more versatility.

1395
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 4: So I kind of like those three for the four spots,

1396
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 4: and if Kyle Williams can continue to progress and works

1397
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 4: his way into that mix, I think that'd be great.

1398
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Well, waiting for Mike Rabel. It's a

1399
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 2: little late, not like him usually. What's that.

1400
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 4: Up here?

1401
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: We go?

1402
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 8: Good? Yeah, so far, so good.

1403
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 14: It's been about three years since his team put together

1404
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 14: back to back wins. How important is it in the

1405
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 14: culture what you're trying to build, you know, to get

1406
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 14: some moments on you with streams.

1407
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 15: It's always important to win as many games as you

1408
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 15: possibly can. There's a lot of stats here, guys that

1409
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 15: I'm not familiar with, nor am.

1410
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 8: I concerned with.

1411
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 15: Right the focus is, you know, trying to build some

1412
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 15: consistency which would then lead to confidence and continue to

1413
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 15: build on what we did and prove the things that

1414
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 15: we have to fix, uh and then continue to eliminate

1415
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 15: some of the things that we feel like I could

1416
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 15: could get your beat and uh so I'm excited about

1417
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 15: doing that today through meetings and practice and getting them

1418
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 15: to uh, you know, get ready for a new opponent.

1419
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 8: Just like we did last week.

1420
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 15: We we cleared the deck and and focused on on

1421
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 15: the next opponent.

1422
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 16: Like how is Terrell feeling and what do you expect

1423
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 16: from him this week?

1424
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 8: In terms of it's.

1425
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 15: Involved, I'd say he's feeling better. I think that we'll

1426
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 15: probably be upright and under the same premise. I mean,

1427
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 15: Terrell's around. I just you know, want to try to

1428
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 15: get some continuity and you know, with the situation probably

1429
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 15: being fluid, you know, we'll stick to to the same

1430
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 15: plan kind of that we had last week. I'll just

1431
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 15: be uh more involved. I just want to make sure

1432
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 15: that we're not in and.

1433
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 8: Out and in and out.

1434
01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 15: That's all Christian I would expect him to do some

1435
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 15: stuff today at practice, Like.

1436
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 9: On Sunday Travion had revolving calls.

1437
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 15: Do you play on working with him this week with

1438
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 15: the lecture with technique to try to minimize that happening

1439
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 15: try namp again. Yeah, obviously, I mean, of course, and

1440
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 15: we believe, you know, in Trayvion's ability to protect him.

1441
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 15: That's one thing that we think that he can do.

1442
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 15: And I think if you ask Antonio, Antonio.

1443
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 8: Would probably be as much at fault as the one

1444
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 8: on the kickoff return.

1445
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 15: I mean, I don't think you can really bounce the

1446
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 15: ball out when we're kicking somebody out by the sideline,

1447
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 15: So that one, I'll give him a pass on, you know.

1448
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 15: The other ones, we just have to make sure we

1449
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 15: keep our head up, stay square, and be able to

1450
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 15: move our feet and not let them beat our feet

1451
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 15: and grab them. So you know, two's too many, so

1452
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 15: we'll just keep working on it.

1453
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 5: If Christian is doing stuff in practice today, does that

1454
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 5: Sunday possibility for sure?

1455
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 17: Like one of the things we have to do with

1456
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 17: talk about injuries is every we're not supposed to speculate,

1457
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 17: but everybody's speculate as us coach, you said, how long

1458
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 17: is it gonna be? He is beating at that when

1459
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 17: something is imagined to take a shorter time and it

1460
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 17: takes one.

1461
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: And I remember Bill talking about this.

1462
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 2: We don't talk about timeline because.

1463
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 8: We don't over recipe around us.

1464
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 17: But is it hard for a player to not have

1465
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 17: his injury understood by the public?

1466
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 15: I don't know, you know, I mean, I certainly nobody.

1467
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 15: I guess if everybody's looking for somebody to blame and

1468
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 15: I'm not, you know, I mean, I'm trying to just

1469
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 15: get them back as soon as they can get back

1470
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 15: and make sure that they're staying engaged, and then you know,

1471
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 15: we have to decide how.

1472
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 8: Long that's gonna be. Is a short term?

1473
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 15: I are all these different things that come into it.

1474
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 15: But but everybody wants to blame if it's not in

1475
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 15: some window that the doctor on in twitter uh suggests

1476
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 15: or recommends. Again, having had a numerous injuries, they all

1477
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 15: recover differently, and bad players that have recovered, you know, differently,

1478
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 15: and it's like, well, why did one injury take this long?

1479
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 15: And is it you know, the player not working hard

1480
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 15: to come back? Is it the trainer's fault? Is it

1481
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 15: this person's fault. You know, I've said this. The injury

1482
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 15: rated in professional football league is one hundred percent. If

1483
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 15: you play this game long enough, you are guaranteed to

1484
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 15: get injured. I don't think you can avoid that. I

1485
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 15: think it's just how you handle it and you.

1486
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 8: Know, kind of go from there. It just doesn't help you.

1487
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 2: Guys can put it off that how long somebody's gone to.

1488
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 15: Go, But I mean why because it could be shorter,

1489
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 15: it could be longer, and then when it doesn't meet

1490
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 15: the timeline, then somebody's going to come back and say, well.

1491
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 8: You said it was going to be two weeks. I

1492
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 8: don't know.

1493
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 15: So instead of being wrong every single time, I choose

1494
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 15: to just try not to say a timeline. And if

1495
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 15: they are back in a week, then great. If it

1496
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 15: takes a couple of weeks, and there we are, and

1497
01:04:59,000 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 15: let's go for everything.

1498
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 17: From from a player's perspective, you.

1499
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 8: Would hotly crap.

1500
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 17: People are starting to take a stake it to.

1501
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 4: One that wish I could tell people what's wrong with me.

1502
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,439
Speaker 15: This is a big understand and and I think that

1503
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,959
Speaker 15: that's great in this case maybe, but then it's gonna

1504
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 15: be the next thing and the next thing like people

1505
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 15: are you're gonna write. You got all pads and recorders.

1506
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:19,919
Speaker 15: You're gonna write whatever you want to write. They're gonna

1507
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 15: think whatever they want to think. You know, I think

1508
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 15: where to that end? Where would you stop? You know,

1509
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 15: where would you stop?

1510
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 3: When you went back and watched the film, umturious what

1511
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 3: you saw like the mistackles want.

1512
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 8: To tackle much better.

1513
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 15: We'll have to tackle Warren John hu Metcalf Austin. You know,

1514
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 15: so that that's the focus. You know, that'll be a

1515
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 15: critical part of this game plan. Those guys are great

1516
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 15: with the boner hand. They run very hard, they're skilled,

1517
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 15: they're big and uh present a challenge.

1518
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers twice when you're in Tennessee. What's the challenge

1519
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 5: of facing him? And is he still look like the

1520
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 5: save Aaron Rodgers that.

1521
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 8: You saw, man, I think the ball can go.

1522
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 15: I mean when you see him extend the play to

1523
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 15: the right and throw it down sixty yards or whatever

1524
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 15: that was.

1525
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 8: His operation is excellent.

1526
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 15: His ability to find relief throws and plays that aren't

1527
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 15: that he doesn't think will be positive plays.

1528
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 8: He finds relief throws.

1529
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 15: You know, would be a great challenge to be able

1530
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 15: to find ways to affect him.

1531
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 14: Follow up.

1532
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 8: What they're doing is Arthur's offense.

1533
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 17: Versus how much of this is what arg has sort

1534
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 17: of brought with him from Green Bay to New York.

1535
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 15: And I think Arthur's done things with multiple quarterbacks. I mean,

1536
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 15: is he doing what he did with with Ritter where

1537
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 15: they're running the zone read No, But there's also other

1538
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 15: elements that he's done a lot of.

1539
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 8: And Aaron haven't played quarterback.

1540
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 15: As long as he has, gonna have things that he likes,

1541
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 15: and so I'd say it's a blend.

1542
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 3: I cat you have one last follow up with christ

1543
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 3: Some players are getching to get back, maybe even too

1544
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 3: early based on the injury.

1545
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: How does his mindset?

1546
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 15: As you know the locker room will be open in

1547
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 15: five minutes, be able to ask him. I'm not going

1548
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 15: to speak for his mindset. I mean that's just I mean,

1549
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 15: if you ask me about anybody's mindset right now, I'd

1550
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 15: say you just feel free to ask them. They'll tell

1551
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 15: you exactly what their mind's thinking.

1552
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 2: What have you learned about him when it.

1553
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 4: Comes to motivation?

1554
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: And let's let's you know, everyone is wired differently.

1555
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 15: What do we really think that we can motivate really,

1556
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 15: I mean, we're trying to inspire them. I think they're

1557
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 15: all motivated. They're professional athletes, and if they're motivated by championships,

1558
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 15: that's really great. If they're motivated in college because they

1559
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 15: want to date the cheerleader, even better, if they're motivated

1560
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 15: to earn a starting job, like I just think that

1561
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 15: thinking that we have to motivate them. I want to

1562
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 15: inspire them and give them confidence and trust that they

1563
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:44,439
Speaker 15: can go out there and do their job.

1564
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 8: I think that's the.

1565
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: The player's personality.

1566
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 2: Do you have to approach each one different way?

1567
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, we do that all the way, you know.

1568
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 15: I mean whether we're teaching them, whether we're trying to

1569
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 15: inspire them, make a connection with them. I think you

1570
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,919
Speaker 15: just have to know the audience and know who they are. Again,

1571
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 15: we've talked about having differ from personalities and trying to

1572
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 15: have one one mindset and one mentality.

1573
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 8: So you know, I think.

1574
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 15: He's personally motivated, and I think he's earning a lot

1575
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 15: of confidence, and I think just the decisiveness and the

1576
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 15: ability to perform and seeing these things translate from the

1577
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 15: first week to the second week was was really good.

1578
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 16: You guys had some more success in the ground game

1579
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,480
Speaker 16: last week, but there were still some inconsistencies.

1580
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: It seemed like maybe specifically was outside z on stuff.

1581
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 16: Curious, what do you feel like you guys did better

1582
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 16: and what can you do to improve this week with

1583
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 16: some of those issues.

1584
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 15: We'll just have to you know, handle a front handle movement.

1585
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 15: You know, it's never going to be great, you know,

1586
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 15: almost average five yards of carry. We'll try to improve

1587
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 15: on that and kind of keep the scheme multiple.

1588
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 8: You have the involved with.

1589
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 4: Andy Cornelis and kind of saying like never lost the

1590
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 4: faith you Why was that so important to just highlight

1591
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 4: him after that game.

1592
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 15: Well, we'll play a lot of rookies and you know

1593
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 15: that one in particular. You know, when there's a missed

1594
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 15: combination block. Other than Taylor, I don't think anybody else

1595
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 15: is going to notice. But when you miss a kick,

1596
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 15: everybody notices. And if the receiver you know, lines up

1597
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 15: in the wrong spot, and nobody notices if an offensive

1598
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 15: lineman fall starts the entire stadium and everybody watching you know,

1599
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 15: so again, I just think that's a that's a job

1600
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 15: that I wanted to recognize him going out there, and

1601
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 15: it's a huge kick. The difference between three and six

1602
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 15: and situations changed really quick. I'm sure in his mind

1603
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 15: he's like, oh, we're going for it, I'm off, and

1604
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 15: then all.

1605
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 8: Of a sudden, we're kicking. So to me, that that's

1606
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 8: that's pretty cool.

1607
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 5: Like doing a story in Zach Korr to the best

1608
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 5: I can tell, when you hired him in Tennessee, all

1609
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 5: of his experience was on the offensive side of the ball.

1610
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: Why did you put him on defensive? Why did you

1611
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: think he can handle that?

1612
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 15: Just because I thought his you know, we talked about

1613
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 15: some of these trends from college, uh coming and you know,

1614
01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 15: nobody watches more defense than offensive coordinators. But you know,

1615
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 15: he learned, he learned what we were doing, he brought

1616
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 15: other ideas and then helped us, you know, bridge the

1617
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 15: gap with some of those trends that were coming from

1618
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 15: from college and kind of what they were thinking. And

1619
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 15: was heavily involved and did our red zone stuff in

1620
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 15: Tennessee and and really grew exponentially as as a defensive

1621
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 15: football coach.

1622
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 16: Like you get a lead like you did, you can

1623
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 16: run whatever offense you want. But it seemed like the

1624
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 16: marriage can running pass was really strong. There is that

1625
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 16: something that would just that's best for us against the

1626
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 16: Dolphins defense or something that identity.

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01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 15: You don't have to be the same thing this week,

1628
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,839
Speaker 15: you know what I mean, I'm going to really struggle

1629
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 15: going forward if on Wednesdays we're reviewing the game. I

1630
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 15: mean we do that on Monday, and uh, you know,

1631
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 15: we got a tough challenge. Just you know, Pittsburgh has

1632
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 15: got veterans, they got athletes.

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01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 8: Linebackers are fast. You know TJ.

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01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 15: Watt's going to be an issue. Her big have always

1635
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 15: had a lot of respect for his game. Cam Hayward

1636
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 15: will push the pocket back in the middle, and then

1637
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 15: you never know where Jalen Ramsey's going to be a corner,

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Speaker 15: He's gonna be a nickel, is going to be a safety.

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Speaker 8: So it'll be a huge challenge. Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: news today, A little bit.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Christian's Alice is going to be at the practice field.

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01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 4: He said, did we expect to see him out there today?

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Speaker 1: Did he?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I thought someone says, if he's out there, would you.

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Speaker 4: He said, expect to see we expect him to do

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Speaker 4: some things today practice. I think he said, okay, all right.

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Speaker 4: And then the follow up a couple of questions later,

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Speaker 4: was if he's assuming he's out there a practice, does

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Speaker 4: that mean that he would have a chance on Sunday?

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Speaker 4: And he said sure, yeah. So it was a little

1720
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Speaker 4: disc saying there's a chance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so.

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Speaker 4: But last week. There was no chance last week.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's progress, progress, So let's cross our fingers because

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Speaker 2: we need a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Of an edgy mic today, a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 4: I thought he was cut off a couple of questions,

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Speaker 4: not confrontational.

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Speaker 2: Like per se suffering fools.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but a little leggie, A little leggie. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, I like that. I like, well, he was

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Speaker 2: He was like five minutes late. So maybe if there's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he did mention in terms of just news, just

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Speaker 4: catching up the news. He was asked about Terrell Williams

1736
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 4: again and just I think he indicated that they would

1737
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 4: kind of go with what they it's a fluid situation.

1738
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 4: I think he said, we'll go with what we the

1739
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 4: same plan that we had last week. So I would

1740
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 4: expect Zach Koorr to be the defensive play caller again

1741
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 4: in them to set things up the way they did

1742
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 4: last week. But Williams is here. I'm not exactly sure

1743
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 4: in what capacity he'll be helping out, but I.

1744
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 2: Am I'm totally with him on his philosophy for not

1745
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 2: talking about timelines for injuries.

1746
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, most coaches would agreed with that.

1747
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 2: I can't win. But I remember George Seaffert with the

1748
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 2: when he was with the Panthers, he would trot out

1749
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 2: the team doctor, and the team doctor would be giving

1750
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 2: you all that stuff, and I was like, what are

1751
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 2: they doing over there in Carolina?

1752
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a different argument. This This seems to do that,

1753
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 4: like Andy Reid does that. Mike Tomlin has done that.

1754
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 2: But everybody heals differently, you know.

1755
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 4: But they don't necessarily the time, the timetable timeline is

1756
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 4: not necessarily something they all get into. But they'll like

1757
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 4: I've seen Mike Mike Tomlin started press conference with you know, uh,

1758
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:33,759
Speaker 4: you know, you know, Joey Porter has got a hamstring, Uh,

1759
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 4: Deshaun Elliott's dealing with a sprained MCL and uh, you know,

1760
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 4: Alex Highsmith's got a high ankle sprain. I've seen him

1761
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 4: do that, but that falls short of it. But I

1762
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 4: don't back and yeah, I don't think he necessary. I mean,

1763
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 4: I don't watch all Pittsburgh press conferences, but I don't

1764
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 4: think I don't think Mike Tomlin is then saying we

1765
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 4: expect him to be out for eight weeks, right right,

1766
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 4: you know, But I'm just kind of pointing out that

1767
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 4: it doesn't necessar. I really mean, you can't win games.

1768
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 4: Andy Reid and Mike Tomin have won a lot of

1769
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 4: games in the NFL, and they've given a lot of

1770
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 4: injury information over the years.

1771
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 2: Darius and Louisville says, of course he's mad at me

1772
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: because of course the defense is better. They have better players.

1773
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 2: But Gerrod Mayo could coach the same exact results as

1774
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 2: we are seeing now. Yes, Rabel is a better coach,

1775
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 2: but don't blame slash credit the talent of the players

1776
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 2: entirely on the coach. Did I do that?

1777
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 4: I don't think you did that. No, I would love to.

1778
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 2: Jump in, and I also said the results so far,

1779
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 2: I can understand where somebody would say that, But it's

1780
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 2: my prediction, my belief that given the players on this team,

1781
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 2: you will see a better defense in time than we

1782
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 2: had last year. That's all I'm saying. That's all I said.

1783
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 4: That is all you said, and I would expect things

1784
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 4: to get better too. I mean, it's been a tough

1785
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 4: start to the season. I mean they're down in the

1786
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 4: thirties in a lot of categories. It's been a tough

1787
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 4: start to the season, and they haven't exactly played, you know,

1788
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 4: offensive Juggernauts. Both teams that they played, as I mentioned yesterday,

1789
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 4: were completely shut down in their other game, especially the Raiders.

1790
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 2: As you can see, Deuce has gone to the locker room.

1791
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 2: He'll be better.

1792
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 4: Try to get a little sit down with some defensive players.

1793
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 4: And maybe you're heart to heart with Robert Splaine, because

1794
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 4: I know that Deuce is hurting, and of course I

1795
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 4: know Digs.

1796
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 2: A lot of you are on the edge of your

1797
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 2: seat waiting to hear from Diggs on the latest announcement

1798
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 2: by I guess his girlfriend Cardi b. I'm not sure,

1799
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 2: so what you just like she said they were broken up.

1800
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 4: She said that my boyfriend, right, but at one.

1801
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 2: Time she took off one office into her Instagram.

1802
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't think she said that they were

1803
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 4: broken up. I think that there was a oh whatever

1804
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 4: the public Uh yeah, you know so, but you you

1805
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 4: seem to be calling into question this whole relationship.

1806
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 2: I'm not. I think it's volatile.

1807
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 4: Well, I absolutely think when you have famous people who

1808
01:18:58,800 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 4: are often in volatile relation.

1809
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 2: I think I think it's entertainers, athletes.

1810
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 4: It's not like Drew and Mora, right, But you know,

1811
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 4: it's not Drew And yeah, well only one of those

1812
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 4: people were famous. But I think entertainers and athletes would

1813
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 4: to me kind of lend itself to.

1814
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 2: A volage Chris Everett volatile, you know, right, Stefanie Graff.

1815
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 2: And who did you go out with? Did you go

1816
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 2: with Agasy?

1817
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 4: Andre you go out with? Or marry?

1818
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 2: Oh they got married.

1819
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 4: Oh they're still married.

1820
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 2: Those kids have made it. Those kids have made it.

1821
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 4: Andre Agassi originally with Brooks Shields, they were mad.

1822
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, Brooks Shields all right. Back to the phones.

1823
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 4: We get just like how you just I don't know.

1824
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 4: They saved it, like get they're together. But Fred's not

1825
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 4: buying it. I'm not buying the.

1826
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 2: Real What to believe these days? Sean's and Vancouver? What's

1827
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: up Sean? Sean?

1828
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 19: Hey, Fred, We've got to give you props for guaranteeing

1829
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 19: the win. That was amazing at work. I hope you

1830
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 19: could do it some more. We need that.

1831
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 2: If I believe it, I'll say it. If I don't,

1832
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: then I won't.

1833
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 19: Yeah, well I'm hoping you you believe that. Coming up

1834
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 19: soon and then we'll get some more wins. I also

1835
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 19: wanted to ask about the Sacks that. I know the

1836
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 19: defense hasn't been playing great, had some issues, but it's early. However,

1837
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 19: the Patriots lead the league with nine sacks. Do you

1838
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 19: think they'll get four or five against Rogers this week?

1839
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 19: And I'll leave it at that.

1840
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's okay? Thanks Shall. What's what's the average?

1841
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 4: Now?

1842
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 2: I think he had four? He was sacked how many

1843
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 2: times last week?

1844
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,679
Speaker 4: I don't know, but yeah, I would expect to see

1845
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 4: the sacked total continue to rise. He's a guy. I

1846
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 4: think Evan's stat about the pressure rate is eye opening.

1847
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 4: Like that means he's getting good protection and still getting

1848
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 4: sacked a lot because every time the other team gets through,

1849
01:20:56,360 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 4: they sack them. Yeah, they're like over thirty percent. Sack

1850
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 4: rate is very high. But you know, yeah, I would

1851
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 4: expect the Patriots to get at least three.

1852
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 2: Well, tell me how good the Patriots offense is going

1853
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 2: to be, and then I'll tell you how many times

1854
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 2: they're going to sack them. Because if we can get

1855
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 2: out to a lead and we're forcing them to pass,

1856
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 2: then yeah we're gonna we're gonna be all over them.

1857
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 2: But if it's a close game and they can be

1858
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 2: balanced Pittsburgh, then our opportunities aren't going to be.

1859
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:24,839
Speaker 4: And that's that's a good point. Like the game script

1860
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 4: often you know, helps in that regard. But I would

1861
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 4: also say, does Pittsburgh's offense have any success at all

1862
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 4: like running the ball, and do they stay out of

1863
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 4: long yarded situations? Because I this is funny. I never

1864
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 4: got to get into it with Evan, but because I

1865
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 4: heard his buddy Alex this morning on on Toucher and

1866
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 4: Hardy saying, you don't really want to blitz Rogers, that's

1867
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 4: really playing with fire, My thought was, yes, I know

1868
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 4: that he is obviously seen every every defensive coverage that

1869
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 4: you're going to come up with, He's seen it. But

1870
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 4: I don't think he can avoid pressure anymore. So if

1871
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 4: you blitz him and you get home, you're probably gonna,

1872
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,799
Speaker 4: you know, pull the plug on the play.

1873
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 2: And how good is his receiving core?

1874
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I think they have good enough receivers. I

1875
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 4: mean DK Metcalf's a good receiver and Calvin Austin you know,

1876
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 4: is okay, you know, the two tight ends I think

1877
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 4: are really good, and they have backs that can catch

1878
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 4: the ball. I think he has options and you know,

1879
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 4: to throw to, but I I would go after him

1880
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 4: a little bit. I wouldn't necessarily blitz like they did

1881
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 4: against the Raiders in the first game where they had

1882
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 4: that high of a blitz rate. But I wouldn't sit

1883
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 4: back like they did for the most part against Tua either.

1884
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 4: I would want to get after him, and I just

1885
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 4: it's interesting to me that the catch twenty two guys

1886
01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 4: ye have coming at this from opposite view points.

1887
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 2: You know, it's so funny. It's it's you know, talk

1888
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 2: about you know, having the feel for the league. It's

1889
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 2: is so often you have to figure out is what

1890
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 2: you're seeing an anomaly with Pittsburgh or is this who

1891
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 2: they are and they've got problems, And when it's early

1892
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 2: in the season, it's really tough to tell. Uh, you know,

1893
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 2: teams turn it around. Yeah, hasn't been bad, but we

1894
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 2: might this might be who Pittsburgh is defensively.

1895
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 4: Defensively that yeah, we could just be sort of seeing

1896
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 4: the beginning of the end of that defense. You know,

1897
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 4: a little bit older, and you know, maybe guys aren't

1898
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 4: quite as good. You know, Patrick Queen's been around a while.

1899
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:39,560
Speaker 8: T J.

1900
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 4: Watts, no, no Spring Chicken anymore, cam Heywood. So maybe

1901
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 4: some of the better players are getting a little older,

1902
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 4: and this is the start of a decline.

1903
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you know, and we talk about Rogers, maybe

1904
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,679
Speaker 2: this is it for him too, because remember that last

1905
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 2: year with Brady, he had a good numbers year, but

1906
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 2: like he was getting hit a lot.

1907
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 4: Oh, Rogers, I think is done. Yeah, I mean I

1908
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 4: he was terrible.

1909
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 2: So, like you know, we talked about last year when

1910
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 2: they played US early in the season and Rogers was

1911
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 2: the old Rogers.

1912
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 4: That was this one good game of the year is

1913
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 4: a Week three or two or something week week three,

1914
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 4: Week three ironically the same week as this.

1915
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 2: And he really didn't do it after that. Maybe that

1916
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 2: was his last tarade. Maybe.

1917
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 4: And I know we had some good statistical games, especially

1918
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 4: down the stretch last year. I just don't think he

1919
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 4: played very well. I know that the numbers would tell

1920
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,719
Speaker 4: you he was great. I don't think he played great

1921
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 4: in those games.

1922
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 2: Uh, let's go to Kendall in North Carolina. Hate Kendall.

1923
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 11: Hey, what's going on?

1924
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 1: Guy?

1925
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 2: Hey not?

1926
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 11: I don't really have a christ in just a statement.

1927
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 12: I'm kind of with fred Man.

1928
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 11: Can we can we finally get a home win? I know,

1929
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 11: I know, so that's all I really want. Okay, what

1930
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:51,719
Speaker 11: we have to do to win at home.

1931
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 2: Score more points than the opposition. Uh, I'm only kidding, Kendle,

1932
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 2: but I hear I hear you. It's like, no, they haven't.

1933
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 4: We had a lot of success. I mean, they won

1934
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 4: the last home game, but that kind of didn't count,

1935
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 4: you know, against Buffalo last year.

1936
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, they absolutely didn't.

1937
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the whole home rode like they have

1938
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 4: won a lot of games.

1939
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 2: Thanks, Kendall. True, true, but he've been even beyond last year,

1940
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 2: going back a few years.

1941
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 4: Our home record, but they haven't won anywhere, is what

1942
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 4: I'm trying to say.

1943
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 2: No, I know we need home game wins. Good, good

1944
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 2: for everybody. Let's see Jamie and Carlo Ireland. I've been

1945
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 2: a listener since twenty twelve, mainly through podcasts while on

1946
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 2: the way to school. One of my favorite memories was

1947
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 2: Andy arguing with no one that Tom Brady is better

1948
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 2: than Manning because he has bigger hands, and I was hooked.

1949
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Speaker 2: I just wanted to say thank you for all you do.

1950
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Speaker 2: My girlfriend got admitted to the hospital on the first

1951
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Speaker 2: due to complications with their pregnancy, and I'm happy to

1952
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 2: say that on the fourth, she gave birth to our

1953
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 2: first child, a healthy boy, gradual. We were there for

1954
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 2: two weeks in between the three shows Catch twenty two

1955
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 2: pre and postgame and PU you guys help me cope

1956
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Speaker 2: with the stress and anxiety.

1957
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Speaker 4: Oh glad we could help. Yeah, we're there for you,

1958
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 4: and best to you and your new family.

1959
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're there. We're there for you, Joel, and San

1960
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Speaker 2: Antonio writes in I'm listening on a bit of a delay,

1961
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 2: So if this has been asked before my apologize, I

1962
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 2: was wondering that if Gonzo misses the next game as well,

1963
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Speaker 2: if it wouldn't have been easier to put him on

1964
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Speaker 2: IR for the first four weeks and be able to

1965
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,759
Speaker 2: elevate or being another defensive back for the time being.

1966
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Speaker 2: Just curious now, I think if they knew that, they would.

1967
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Speaker 4: Well, if he let's put it this way, if he

1968
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 4: didn't play against Pittsburgh and then he comes back and

1969
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 4: he's sort of fifty to fifty questionable against Carolina, that's

1970
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 4: certainly a worthy second guess. I think it's worth it

1971
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 4: because even if you could get him for the Carolina game,

1972
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 4: he's good enough player that I'll sit him out for

1973
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 4: three weeks without having a guarantee that he has to

1974
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 4: sit out for four you know what I mean. Yeah,

1975
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Speaker 4: he's a good enough player to do that.

1976
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Speaker 8: Boy.

1977
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Speaker 2: Michael and Nebraska has two questions, says, if Gonzo comes

1978
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 2: back soon and has an amazing year, would you ever

1979
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 2: consider trading him due to his one injury history, only

1980
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 2: four games his rookie year, sixteen last year, and now

1981
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 2: his current injury. Two, his trade value may be at

1982
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 2: an all time high. And three, he may want to

1983
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 2: get paid a substantial amount this offseason.

1984
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Speaker 4: So this is funny. This is suddenly on my shows

1985
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 4: yesterday it was Beatle and Zoe I think who brought

1986
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:44,600
Speaker 4: it up, and then Mike and Tony sort of, you know,

1987
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 4: piggybacked on it trading Gonzales, you know, and everybody's like, well,

1988
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 4: I think they asked Mike Grease. I think Beatle and

1989
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 4: Zoe asked Mike Grease, would you trade Gonzales for a

1990
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 4: first round pick? Mike said no, I would be interested

1991
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Speaker 4: in something more along the lines of an established player.

1992
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Speaker 4: And what Mike and Tony brought up was aj Brown

1993
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,799
Speaker 4: in Philadelphia, who has been kind of a bit player

1994
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 4: in the first couple of games for the Eagles. It's

1995
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:17,520
Speaker 4: only twenty eight it's not that old, so still theoretically

1996
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Speaker 4: has some productive years left in him.

1997
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Speaker 2: We were talking.

1998
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Speaker 4: I don't know why Philadelphia would want to do that,

1999
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Speaker 4: but just play along the hypothetical here. Would you be

2000
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Speaker 4: willing to do that?

2001
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Speaker 2: Yes, see, we talked about I wouldn't at this point. One,

2002
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Speaker 2: I haven't given up on Gonzo as you know, you know,

2003
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 2: one of those injury play players yet, so I don't

2004
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 2: think that to me, I haven't put him in that

2005
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 2: category yet. Two, in my opinion, in the NFL, it's

2006
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 2: a lot easier to get a really good receiver than

2007
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 2: a real good cornerback. I think there are a lot

2008
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 2: more good receivers in the NFL than there are shutdown corners.

2009
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 4: So I would We talked about this off air a

2010
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 4: little bit, and I would agree with Freddy's assessment there.

2011
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Speaker 4: I think there are probably more elite receivers in the

2012
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 4: league than there are elite corners. I don't think it's

2013
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Speaker 4: much easier, but I think you're right. I would be

2014
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 4: interested in that trade. I'm not sure you could get

2015
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Speaker 4: aj Brown straight up for Christian Gonzales, but if that

2016
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Speaker 4: you know, again we're doing hypotheticals here, I would have

2017
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 4: to think about that. I think that would be the

2018
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Speaker 4: kind of piece offensively that could put your passing game

2019
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 4: in a different stratosphere. Yeah, I would. Now, I'm not

2020
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Speaker 4: giving up on Gonzales because I'm convinced that he's an

2021
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 4: injury prone guy or whatever. I'm just wondering if I

2022
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:49,759
Speaker 4: might find something more valuable for my team.

2023
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 2: Right, I don't know if there's anything more valuable other

2024
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 2: than a quarterback than a true shut down corner.

2025
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 4: Y see, I disagree. I think there's a lot of

2026
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 4: teams that win a lot of games without true shut corners.

2027
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 4: I don't know if you can do it without having,

2028
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 4: you know, some offensive firepower. I don't know, But I

2029
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 4: mean it's it's a great it's a great argument. It's

2030
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 4: a great debate. And before say, I know, I just

2031
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 4: opened myself up for all kinds of criticism. I'm sure

2032
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 4: there are teams that have won without you know, it's like,

2033
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 4: you know, the Cowboys traded Micah Parsons. Right, let's go

2034
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 4: back to like this elite player getting traded thing. Did

2035
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 4: you remember what happened in the immediate aftermath of the Micah

2036
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 4: Parsons trade?

2037
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 2: You know what?

2038
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 4: You know what you don't need to win titles. You

2039
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 4: know what never wins titles elite edge guys Suddenly like,

2040
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 4: you don't need an elite edge guy because those those

2041
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 4: guys never win. And I'm like, did I like, I

2042
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 4: don't care what position they played. Did the Eagles not

2043
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 4: like dominate the Chiefs in the Super Bowl last year

2044
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 4: with their pass rush?

2045
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2046
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 4: Like, I don't care if it came from Milton Williams

2047
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 4: and in whoever, I don't care if Josh Swett isn't

2048
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:48,799
Speaker 4: your eyes.

2049
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald helped the Rams.

2050
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean those guys were dominant. Chris Jones was

2051
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 4: dominant for the Chiefs, and they're back to back titles.

2052
01:30:56,400 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 4: Like again, I'm getting off track. I don't know if

2053
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 4: you know who is the dominant shut down corner for

2054
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 4: the Eagles last year? I don't know, because they didn't

2055
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 4: really have one. They have really really good defense with

2056
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 4: a lot of good players, was really good.

2057
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 2: You have to Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm not

2058
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 2: saying you have to have a dominant shut that in

2059
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 2: order to win. But if you have a dominant shutdown corner,

2060
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 2: it's it makes life a lot easier, it does, you know,

2061
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 2: because you can put them on their best guy.

2062
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 4: But you know what, but you know what makes it

2063
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 4: a lot easier, And you're right everything you just said

2064
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 4: is I agree with I just think having dominant players

2065
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 4: regardless of position. But but I don't think having a

2066
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:45,680
Speaker 4: dominant corner helps you anymore than having a dominant But

2067
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:46,440
Speaker 4: it's harder.

2068
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 2: To find those guys. And I don't know, I agree

2069
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 2: with you if you and far between true shutdown, Yeah,

2070
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 2: I think corner. But you know I'm talking you know,

2071
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 2: the real guy, the real shutdown.

2072
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 4: Because you can you can go type, you can go

2073
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 4: like Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, you know, and those kinds

2074
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 4: of receivers, and you can say, like you know, Ceedee Lamb,

2075
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 4: the truly dominant receivers, and you can say I could

2076
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:18,559
Speaker 4: probably keep going into ten fifteen range. Whereas with corner,

2077
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:22,759
Speaker 4: to your point, you know, it's Patrick Sartan and Derek

2078
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 4: Stingley and Sauce Gardner and Gonzo and you kind of

2079
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 4: start running out, Yeah, when you look at it that way.

2080
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:31,639
Speaker 4: So I do think that you make a good point

2081
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 4: about it being harder to get a corner. I just

2082
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 4: don't think it's any more valuable to have that than

2083
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,640
Speaker 4: anything else. If you have a dominant player, you have

2084
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 4: a dominant player. My feeling would be, I think A. J.

2085
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 4: Brown's a better player than Christian Gonzales.

2086
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 2: I remember twenty fourteen and he was far from his prime.

2087
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 2: We brought in Revas and yeah he was. I have

2088
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:53,679
Speaker 2: a different it was a big that was a big deal.

2089
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a different hole. Like I think, how

2090
01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 4: would that have been without the offense that they had.

2091
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it put them up?

2092
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 4: Did Darrell Rivas? See That's like, I don't think that

2093
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 4: put him over the top. I think Tom Brady did.

2094
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:13,719
Speaker 4: I think Tom Brady's kicking the ass from Jimmy Garoppolo

2095
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 4: put them over the top. And I think that the

2096
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 4: you know, I don't think Darrel Rievas and Brandon Browner,

2097
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 4: you know, led a ten point you know, fourteen point

2098
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 4: comeback in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl.

2099
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 2: If you remember back then in that era, you know,

2100
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,839
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, ten.

2101
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 4: Defense was better in fourteen. You're right, You're right. I mean,

2102
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 4: like again, on paper, facts are facts. It's like Felger facts,

2103
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 4: you know, like they had defenses that were good, that

2104
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 4: they had an offense that was good enough to get

2105
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl, but the defense wasn't good enough

2106
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 4: for them to win it, right, And then in fourteen

2107
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 4: they brought in Browner, and they brought in Revis and

2108
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 4: the defense improved and they were good enough to win it.

2109
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 4: I can't argue with that, that's fact, but I think

2110
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 4: Brady was just that much better and that's why they

2111
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 4: won the Super Bowl.

2112
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 2: The other question Mike and the brown is why do

2113
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,560
Speaker 2: you think Kyle Williams only played seven snaps against the

2114
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 2: Raiders and ten against the Dolphins. Is he just not

2115
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 2: good enough yet or are they waiting for something? Is

2116
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 2: starting to feel like another Poke Baker situation, and I

2117
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 2: hope it doesn't turn out that way. I just think

2118
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 2: it's a numbers game at this point. Yeah, Like he

2119
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 2: hasn't been that good where he's pushing people out of

2120
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 2: the way.

2121
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 4: I think it's the opposite of Polk. Polk played virtually

2122
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 4: every play at this time last year and just wasn't

2123
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 4: productive with it, whereas Williams, I think is biding his

2124
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,599
Speaker 4: time and waiting for his opportunities. And I think Mike

2125
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 4: is right about some of the things that they sort

2126
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,679
Speaker 4: of tried with him a little bit in this game.

2127
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 4: Right now, he's the fifth receiver. So the fifth receiver

2128
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 4: is not going to get a ton of you know,

2129
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 4: a ton of snaps. But I would also say a

2130
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 4: lot of teams that the fifth receiver who doesn't play

2131
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 4: special teams wouldn't even be dressed. So they must really

2132
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 4: like Kyle Williams and they must see some potential in

2133
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 4: him that they want to have him part of the

2134
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 4: game day roster, even as a small role, and they

2135
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 4: feel like he's developing. I still have some I have

2136
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 4: some faith there. I think there's there's something there with

2137
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 4: Kyle Williams.

2138
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 2: Paul and the colony. UH. With Burrow going down, seems

2139
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 2: like the Bengals will try to unload some of their

2140
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 2: big salaries this year, and Sin and Hagens seem like

2141
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 2: obvious choices. But are there others on the team that.

2142
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 1: We could be see that happening?

2143
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 4: I think Coach, I think that they'll look at this

2144
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 4: and say we can tread water and we can with

2145
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 4: it two and zero, which they have not been ever

2146
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 4: in this Zach Taylor regime. Right, I think that they'll

2147
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 4: look to win games with Jake Browning like they did

2148
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 4: two years ago in Burrow's absence and see if they can,

2149
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 4: you know, find a way to you know, win enough

2150
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 4: games to make it worthwhile for Borrow to come back

2151
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 4: at the end of the year. I don't know if

2152
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 4: that is that realistic. I don't know, but I think

2153
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 4: it's it's definitely realistic that they can win games without Burrow.

2154
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 4: They've done it before. Two years ago they I think

2155
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:58,799
Speaker 4: they won, went four and three without Burrow.

2156
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 2: I I feel better.

2157
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 4: So if you go four and three in the next

2158
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 4: seven right now, you know, you're six and three.

2159
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 2: I feel bad for Burrow, but it couldn't happen to

2160
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 2: a better team.

2161
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 4: No, But do you know understand what my point is,

2162
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 4: you're snark aside, which don't get me wrong, I'm here

2163
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 4: for the snark. If you were, I believe they went

2164
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,520
Speaker 4: four and three two years ago with Browning as the quarterback.

2165
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 4: Let's say they go four and three in the next

2166
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 4: seven games. So now you're you know, like I said,

2167
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 4: you're six and three around the trade deadline. Are you

2168
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:31,839
Speaker 4: selling off pieces?

2169
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2170
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 4: Right, or you're saying no, we can go four and

2171
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 4: three in the next seven games and then maybe Borrow's

2172
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 4: back exactly.

2173
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, So yeah, you only do that if you don't

2174
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 2: think you can.

2175
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if they if they go out and

2176
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:46,640
Speaker 4: you know, instead of going four and three, they go

2177
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:48,639
Speaker 4: two and five, then maybe you're selling off a piece.

2178
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 4: But I think they went in for this year and

2179
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 4: I think they got to see it through.

2180
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 2: Cole writes in do we take into consideration at all

2181
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:00,880
Speaker 2: the history of success the Patriot have had against the

2182
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 2: Steelers heading into this game, especially considering McDaniels is going

2183
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:08,679
Speaker 2: to know exactly how to attack this defense, assuming it's

2184
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 2: the same old Pittsburgh defense. If so, should we expect

2185
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 2: a monster game from the tight ends our tight ends?

2186
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 4: Yeah? No, I know, any man, he's thinking of Gronk.

2187
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 4: I what, like I would just I would ask, what

2188
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 4: would constant trute? A monster game from Hunter Henry?

2189
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:36,919
Speaker 2: Two touchdowns, eighty yards, two tuddies.

2190
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 4: I mean sure maybe. I mean I'm just thinking we're

2191
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 4: thinking of Rob Gronkowski, you know, ten for one hundred

2192
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 4: and thirty and two touchdowns, Like I don't think that's

2193
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 4: going to happen. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Right?

2194
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 2: And you know, I know last week so you know

2195
01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to be called a hypocrite here. We talked

2196
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 2: all about the Miami history and going down there and

2197
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 2: how hard it is to win no matter who the

2198
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 2: team is, and oh and seven against Tua. So we

2199
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 2: took history into consideration there, But I'm less apt to

2200
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 2: do that this week with Pittsburgh.

2201
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:16,680
Speaker 4: So I would be less app too, because it's Aaron Rodgers, right,

2202
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 4: It's not Ben Roethlisberger, Ben Roethlisberger, right. You know, it's

2203
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 4: not the same Steelers team. And you know with the

2204
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 4: with the Dolphins, it was Tua and Waddle and Hill

2205
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 4: and ate to the same guys for the most part

2206
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 4: that you were going against. So I think there was

2207
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:33,799
Speaker 4: a little bit more reason to look at the history

2208
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 4: with Miami than you would this year. But I have

2209
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 4: I do have faith in the Patriots' recent success with Pittsburgh.

2210
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 4: I think that's relevant and specifically what the emailer talked about,

2211
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,719
Speaker 4: Josh McDaniels has had a lot of success going against

2212
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 4: the Steelers defense.

2213
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 2: Martin out of Kansas. Personally, I view the Steelers as

2214
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 2: the cowboys of the AFC North. The mainstream sports media,

2215
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 2: not you guys, hypes them up every year. Yet they're

2216
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 2: just a speed bump for any team facing them in

2217
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 2: the first round of the playoffs. As Paul said earlier,

2218
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 2: on paper, they should play better than they have. I

2219
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 2: see Drake May having yet another best career game with

2220
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 2: our King Godora type running back room dominating the Steelers defense.

2221
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:22,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what King Godora me is. Ghid o

2222
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:28,559
Speaker 2: r ah, it's a Godzilla thing? Okay?

2223
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:33,640
Speaker 4: Oh oh, all right? Three headed is that Godora? I

2224
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 4: thought that was Rodan oh Gira? Okay, well, now it

2225
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 4: makes sense because they have the three headed monster. Okay, good?

2226
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 4: Good reference, Okay, good.

2227
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 2: The Patriots defense having Rogers run for his lifeball game

2228
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 2: throwing two plus interceptions Patriots forty eight, Steelers twenty three.

2229
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 4: Well, if Rogers is throwing interceptions, then I could see

2230
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:01,519
Speaker 4: that happening. I don't see it throwing the interceptions. He

2231
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 4: doesn't really do that. Yeah, I mean, you know he

2232
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 4: has the best interception rate in the history of the NFL.

2233
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah? Wow? Yeah.

2234
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 4: He didn't even throw a lot of interceptions last year

2235
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:14,240
Speaker 4: when he's stunk, right, so I.

2236
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 2: Wouldn't because he throws it out of bounds.

2237
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 4: Well whatever, he doesn't throw a lot of interceptions, gives up,

2238
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 4: doesn't try. Maybe I don't think he tried very hard.

2239
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 4: Last year. I kind of agree, Dan, you're trying to

2240
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 4: get me involved in an argument. You're not going to

2241
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:32,600
Speaker 4: I think nothing like. I couldn't think less of his professionalism.

2242
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't throw interceptions either. Fighting Try Dan in

2243
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:40,879
Speaker 2: Virginia and Michigan. I don't like Rogers or the Steelers

2244
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 2: at all. It would be the most Jets thing. However, However,

2245
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 2: if Rogers did well this year and the two years

2246
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:49,680
Speaker 2: of his lowest production were the two years he was

2247
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 2: with the Jets. There was some discussion yesterday about naming

2248
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 2: the win against Miami. How about marvelous mess in Miami?

2249
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:00,919
Speaker 2: If you want to really amp up the ridiculous in alliteration,

2250
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 2: it could be the marvelous mess in Miami that made

2251
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 2: me a man. No, I think it's the Rabel kickoff game.

2252
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 4: I like the Rabel kick return. Yeah, so Rabel return game.

2253
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that's it.

2254
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 4: I was I was laughing there.

2255
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:20,720
Speaker 2: I could say it's the main coming out game, but

2256
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 2: it wasn't a last second win.

2257
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna I'm gonna button hook you. You know

2258
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:28,880
Speaker 4: why I don't want to go with that because I

2259
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 4: think we're going to be looking at games like this

2260
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 4: is like pedestrian.

2261
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:36,640
Speaker 2: Like and it wasn't like him winning it in the

2262
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 2: last second.

2263
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 4: No, yeah, then I would say it was a coming

2264
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 4: out part, right, But I think you're going to be

2265
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:44,560
Speaker 4: looking at games like he had on Sunday as pedestrian

2266
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 4: like he wasn't asked to do a whole lot, right,

2267
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 4: and he and he handled it fine. But man, when

2268
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 4: he's really locked in and he's.

2269
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, the coming out game will be.

2270
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 4: Four touchdowns running around. Yeah, that's that's the coming out party.

2271
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 2: Mike and the OC. Not sure if you've addressed Tom

2272
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,719
Speaker 2: Brady wearing the coaching had set and assisting Chip Kelly

2273
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 2: and the Hiders offense. Wanted to get your thoughts on

2274
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 2: him if being a broadcaster truly gives him and the

2275
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 2: Raiders an advantage. In any case, I'm still upset he's

2276
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 2: in his position with the Raiders. The Patriots Organization has

2277
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,639
Speaker 2: done an amazing job rehabbing the relationship with Brady after

2278
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 2: the split and honoring his legacy the best way possible.

2279
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 2: Just wish we had him in our coaching personal office,

2280
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 2: similar to Lway with the Broncos. So yeah, I mean,

2281
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 2: you know, we were talking about it before the big deal.

2282
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:38,840
Speaker 2: Isn't that he's an owner of a team anywhere on

2283
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 2: the field, the owners can do whatever they want. It's

2284
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:46,160
Speaker 2: that he's a broadcaster for Fox doing other teams games. Right.

2285
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:50,960
Speaker 2: That's where you know the conflict comes in.

2286
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 4: So, yeah, it's ridiculous. I think it's an enormous conflict

2287
01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 4: of interest and it's an advantage for them. So he's

2288
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:08,439
Speaker 4: not allowed to go to practice, right, He's not allowed

2289
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,639
Speaker 4: in the other team's facility. Right, that's the way they

2290
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 4: have it. His broadcast partner is going to practice on Friday.

2291
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:18,640
Speaker 4: You don't think he's telling them everything he saw a

2292
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:22,720
Speaker 4: practice on Friday, Right, And you don't think this is

2293
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 4: a league where teams go through unbelievable lengths to find

2294
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 4: any in all information that might help them win a game. Right.

2295
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 4: You don't think that that potentially helps the Raiders win

2296
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 4: a game?

2297
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 8: Right?

2298
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 4: Him knowing what?

2299
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 1: I think?

2300
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 4: Someone said that they have like Chicago this week and

2301
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 4: then next week they play whoever they play. It doesn't matter.

2302
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 4: They have a team this week and for Fox that

2303
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 4: the Raiders are playing the following week. You don't think

2304
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 4: that that could help him, right?

2305
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:51,120
Speaker 2: Right?

2306
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 4: You know? And I'm listening on one of my other shows.

2307
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:57,600
Speaker 4: That means EEI not the Sports Hub this morning, and

2308
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 4: then really downplaying it. Wiggy was the only one and

2309
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:03,800
Speaker 4: thought it was relevant and they're really downplaying it. And

2310
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, what's just to stop them from calling up?

2311
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 4: Like he's got a million friends, you know, Wes Welker's

2312
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 4: on the coaching staff in Washington. What's to stop them

2313
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 4: from talking to Wes Welker about the Commanders? And I'm

2314
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 4: thinking to myself, what's to stop them? Wes Welker knows

2315
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:22,599
Speaker 4: that he's the owner of the Raiders. That's what would

2316
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 4: stop him. He's not going to be forthcoming with him

2317
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 4: on oh geez, you know what. You should see our

2318
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,680
Speaker 4: third downpackage this week, Tom and we're going to use

2319
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 4: it against the Raiders too. Like that's not going to happen, right,

2320
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 4: he is, Like, I think it's an enormous edge for

2321
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 4: no reason. I think, much like everybody else in this

2322
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 4: I think he needs to pick a lane, and I

2323
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 4: think he should be forced to pick a lane. You're

2324
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 4: either an announcer or you're a part owner. I have

2325
01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:48,680
Speaker 4: no problem with him being in the coaches booth with

2326
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 4: headsets owners do that all the time. I mean, ours doesn't,

2327
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 4: but a lot of owners around the league are they

2328
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 4: just look, what's the woman's name, and she's been doing.

2329
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 2: It for years Yep, Carly or something.

2330
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, she I mean, she just has the headsets on.

2331
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 4: I don't think she has input. She just wants to listen.

2332
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 4: She's on the sideline, and she's on the sideline listening

2333
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 4: to what the coaches are saying, like that's their Do

2334
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 4: you own the team, that's your prerogative. You should be

2335
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:17,320
Speaker 4: able to do any and all of that kind of

2336
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 4: stuff if you do that if you were the owner,

2337
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind listening. If I was the owner, Yeah,

2338
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 4: but but I would make it clear this is I'm

2339
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 4: not listening. So I'm I'm like trying to keep tabs

2340
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 4: on you. I'm I'm genuinely interested in.

2341
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 2: From the owner's booth, though, I'd have like.

2342
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 4: However, yeah, however it could be done, and I would

2343
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:37,679
Speaker 4: also try to do it as inconspicuously as I could,

2344
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 4: maybe with like earbuds or something like that. But yeah, okay, yeah,

2345
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 4: So I couldn't believe the NFL wasted time putting out

2346
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 4: a statement explaining how it's it's within the rules for

2347
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 4: an owner to be listening to of course it is.

2348
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:55,800
Speaker 4: It's the owner that's not the issue here. The owner.

2349
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 4: The the issue here is the owner is also a broadcaster, Right,

2350
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:01,639
Speaker 4: have another pet peeve?

2351
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 2: You probably won't way Brady related or no.

2352
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 4: No, just in general, like, just because the networks spend

2353
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 4: billions of dollars, we have to have these for COCTA broadcast.

2354
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 2: Meetings, I mean production meetings.

2355
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like why you don't like it?

2356
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 2: No, you don't think they should get some backgrounds so

2357
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 2: they come into the game a little bit more informed

2358
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 2: for the fans.

2359
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 4: No, No, no, I don't. I don't think they should.

2360
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 4: I don't think they should be privy to anything behind

2361
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 4: the scenes. And I know why. Obviously it's money. All

2362
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 4: the money they pay that much money, they got to

2363
01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:42,840
Speaker 4: get something and return. I understand that. You know, the

2364
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:46,639
Speaker 4: media is here every day like they're covering your team,

2365
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:49,840
Speaker 4: they're promoting your product just as much as the networks are. Yep,

2366
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:52,760
Speaker 4: they don't get that access, right And I'm not talking

2367
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:54,600
Speaker 4: about us individual I'm just talking you know, like the

2368
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 4: Boston Globe.

2369
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 2: I'm sure if klinis paid a billion dollars, they get

2370
01:46:57,479 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 2: that right.

2371
01:46:57,880 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying you shouln't be about you shouldn't

2372
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:01,960
Speaker 4: just pay for your access. That's I don't think it's right.

2373
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 4: Welcome to America, I know, I know, Like I'm not naive.

2374
01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 4: I just don't like it. Do you know what I'm saying?

2375
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:08,799
Speaker 4: Like I understand why it happens.

2376
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:11,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's an age old tradition. I mean, even

2377
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 2: before billion dollar deals they would have been having production meetings.

2378
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 4: But I can understand, like in the in the day,

2379
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 4: they needed the broadcast partners to promote their product, right,

2380
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 4: you know, it's different now.

2381
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 2: I remember speaking of Bill Parcells back when he was

2382
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 2: the coach and Don Lowry was our PR guy before

2383
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:33,840
Speaker 2: Stacey James. Even, I said to Don, I said, hey,

2384
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 2: don can you ask Parcels if I can sit on

2385
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 2: the you know, the production meeting with NBC. Like he's

2386
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:44,559
Speaker 2: not gonna, I just ask him. So he comes back

2387
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 2: the next day. So what did he say? He said,

2388
01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:48,439
Speaker 2: He said, tell Fred he's not NBC.

2389
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 4: So, which is That's a great story, but it kindlantic no, no,

2390
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 4: but it lends lends it to what I'm talking about. Obviously,

2391
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 4: the coaches weren't real happy with it. They didn't want

2392
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 4: other people in their preva. If we have to do

2393
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:03,200
Speaker 4: it for NBC, I guess we have to do it like.

2394
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 4: They don't want to do that. They don't want to

2395
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:07,920
Speaker 4: give that information away. So when people say, well, why

2396
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:09,920
Speaker 4: is it such a big deal that Tom Brady, that's

2397
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 4: the coaches. Don't The coaches think it's a big deal.

2398
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 4: But at least Parcels did.

2399
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 2: Yep, and a lot of times, you know, you would.

2400
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 2: I would imagine some coaches use those production meetings to

2401
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,920
Speaker 2: help them get something out there. Like they tell something

2402
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:27,760
Speaker 2: that they're hoping the broadcasters will repeat it.

2403
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:29,840
Speaker 4: Like and on that thing that I heard this morning,

2404
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 4: I think they had a clip from Jimmy Johnson talking

2405
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 4: about like those meetings are useless. There's never been anything

2406
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 4: that comes out of it. I used to not say

2407
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 4: anything about it, and I was like, well, that's great.

2408
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 4: That's what you did. You you were able to do

2409
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:45,680
Speaker 4: it that way. I think that it's also kind of

2410
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 4: interesting that he's downplaying it as a Fox guy. I

2411
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:51,000
Speaker 4: know he'd retired, but he's a Fox guy. This is

2412
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 4: the his network's broadcast team. That is, you know in question.

2413
01:48:56,920 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 4: I just think it's disingenuous on Jimmy Johnson's part regard

2414
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 4: he's telling you how we didn't tell him anything. Yeah,

2415
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 4: oh okay, so you're telling me that there's nothing to

2416
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 4: be gleaned from going to the Friday practice, and but

2417
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:12,800
Speaker 4: you didn't tell him anything, right, right? So what are

2418
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:14,680
Speaker 4: you like? So you were hiding it is what you

2419
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:18,559
Speaker 4: were doing. I just think, speaking of.

2420
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 2: Telling teams things, the Steelers signed Pepper's earlier and just

2421
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 2: yesterday announced that they had signed j Want Bentley. Is

2422
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 2: there any information that those two guys can give the

2423
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 2: team that would help them against the Patriots? We'll talk

2424
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 2: about my question.

2425
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 19: That none of them look like in the locker room.

2426
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 2: What was it like, Mike?

2427
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 4: What was it like?

2428
01:49:58,160 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 8: Sorry?

2429
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 2: A little crazy really back sooner.

2430
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 3: But we had, of course Stefan Diggs spoke, and then

2431
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 3: we had Christian Zalez and we had AFC Special Teams

2432
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:09,519
Speaker 3: Player of the Week Antonio Gibson as well. So all

2433
01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:11,519
Speaker 3: three of those guys was waiting for Antonio to get

2434
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 3: out of the shower so we could interview him. So

2435
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:15,639
Speaker 3: that's why I'm a little later. Didn't get a chance

2436
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:17,559
Speaker 3: to talk to explaining or anybody on the defense that

2437
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 3: was one of the things I.

2438
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 1: Wanted to do.

2439
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 4: No, you wanted to have a heart to heart with

2440
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 4: your defensive mates.

2441
01:50:21,439 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 1: No, no, none of that today.

2442
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 3: But we did talk to Diggs, and you know, he seems,

2443
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 3: uh saying all the right things, you know, and just

2444
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 3: everybody theme of having a win and getting some confidence

2445
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:33,800
Speaker 3: and trying to build off for that and trying to

2446
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:35,800
Speaker 3: you know, keep the train rolling was kind of the

2447
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 3: general sentiment.

2448
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 1: Christian Zalez, playing a little close to the.

2449
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:40,400
Speaker 3: Vest, asked about, you know, did you have a setback,

2450
01:50:40,479 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 3: And I don't want to talk about it. I'm gonna

2451
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:43,639
Speaker 3: be out there today. I'm gonna focus on today, and

2452
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 3: you know, we'll see where I'm at the end of

2453
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 3: that day. So yeah, he didn't set any expectations or

2454
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 3: anything like that.

2455
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:49,599
Speaker 1: So that's all good.

2456
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 2: And so yeah, what's the news.

2457
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:55,800
Speaker 1: The news is that he's gonna practice no digs? Oh

2458
01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 1: uh no news.

2459
01:50:57,520 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 2: What did they didn't talk about?

2460
01:50:59,439 --> 01:50:59,839
Speaker 1: Oh?

2461
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:02,240
Speaker 3: H asked him about that about his uh andy, I

2462
01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 3: don't talk about private life, so he kind of he

2463
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:06,880
Speaker 3: kind of shut it down. He didn't really he didn't

2464
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:07,519
Speaker 3: really talk.

2465
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 4: About it's not buying it.

2466
01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I just think it's you know,

2467
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:16,200
Speaker 2: he seemed generally a volatile situation.

2468
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 1: Oh, he seemed genuinely confused.

2469
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 3: When someone was like, so I figure with the quite

2470
01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:21,120
Speaker 3: how exactly how they phrased, He's like, what what are

2471
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:24,120
Speaker 3: you talking about? Like and like, oh, you know, the announcement,

2472
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 3: and he's like, I don't know. Let's see, I don't

2473
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:27,680
Speaker 3: really have my personal life. So yeah, playing close to

2474
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:29,320
Speaker 3: the Bob question.

2475
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 2: When you're with a woman and you both love each other.

2476
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, the birds and the bees.

2477
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:42,040
Speaker 3: Uh so yeah, that was so that was kind of

2478
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:43,760
Speaker 3: the vibe though in locker room Eber getting ready to

2479
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 3: go out shells no no pads today, Yeah, and uh yeah,

2480
01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 3: we'll see from Evan once and I did find out

2481
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:51,519
Speaker 3: where Evan was. He was conducting an interview with Bill

2482
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 3: O'Brien regarding a piece he was writing on Julian Edelman,

2483
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:55,879
Speaker 3: who's being.

2484
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:57,080
Speaker 1: Inducted into the Hall of Fame this weekend.

2485
01:51:57,120 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 3: So that's why he he had to cut out on

2486
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,640
Speaker 3: our first hour after billyo for a little bit.

2487
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:04,000
Speaker 2: So there you go. Was this an approved piece that

2488
01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:07,040
Speaker 2: he's writing, believe it is something that he's doing it

2489
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 2: for his own block.

2490
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 4: His home block.

2491
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 2: Evan A lot of media.

2492
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:17,720
Speaker 3: Sounded like it was auded, very crowded, and uh, I

2493
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 3: don't know if you want my shoulders. Very tired, sure

2494
01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:23,560
Speaker 3: holding the mics so you know ninety eight five and

2495
01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 3: I helped them out today Mark Capella, you know the

2496
01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 3: mic so but you know, it's like trying to hold

2497
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:30,639
Speaker 3: a two pound weight for five minutes like this.

2498
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard.

2499
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:36,200
Speaker 2: Hard. I don't like them, you know, enlisting you.

2500
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 1: Well, it was you know, you scratch my back, guy,

2501
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 1: scratch yours kind of thing. Sometimes you get you get

2502
01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:41,639
Speaker 1: closed out. It's tight space.

2503
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:42,679
Speaker 2: You can't get in there.

2504
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:43,559
Speaker 12: You know.

2505
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 3: Maria Capello comes over and he's like, I can't get

2506
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,640
Speaker 3: in there. I cut in on it, like think Mike

2507
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 3: shows someday.

2508
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 1: So I know, all good. We all work together as

2509
01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 1: a team trying to get those interviews. So some good

2510
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 1: stuff today.

2511
01:52:55,680 --> 01:53:01,439
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so Gonzo he talked, that's a good sign. Yep, yep, yep.

2512
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 1: Right at that, I was that was actually reminiscing you

2513
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:03,720
Speaker 1: came up.

2514
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 3: Paul was talking to Mike g r D and we

2515
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 3: were talking about Stephan Gilmore and and you know how

2516
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 3: he would and I said, yeah, Paul always say like

2517
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:11,559
Speaker 3: you know, people would be like, oh, he doesn't act

2518
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:12,840
Speaker 3: like a number one corner, and Pul's like, that's just

2519
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:15,000
Speaker 3: because you can't hear him quiet.

2520
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:18,479
Speaker 4: He did in the best cover corner. He would say

2521
01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:22,719
Speaker 4: stuff right Juju Smith, Schuster, He locker he can't get open?

2522
01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 3: Was that was Tylaw in that locker too, or anybody

2523
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:26,439
Speaker 3: else in that that right by the.

2524
01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 2: Door right there?

2525
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember stuff being there.

2526
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 4: Law was over there. I don't know if he was

2527
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 4: the end. Yeah, he might have been in the middle

2528
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:35,640
Speaker 4: of that bank, but he was on that. I mean,

2529
01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:36,400
Speaker 4: that's obviously with.

2530
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 1: It rivass the corner you.

2531
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:42,200
Speaker 4: May have been in that. It made it kind of

2532
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 4: goes by number. So like all three of those guys

2533
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 4: were number well not Gonzales, but Revis, Gilmore and Law.

2534
01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 4: We're all twenty four, right, so they were in that

2535
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 4: general vicinity.

2536
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all. The mood was could good stuff, you know.

2537
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,639
Speaker 3: Steph said, He's like, you guys, maybe you couldn't last week,

2538
01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 3: but you could feel like, you know, the mood last

2539
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 3: week was definitely, you know, a little bit more down,

2540
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:05,839
Speaker 3: and you know this week you have a little confidence

2541
01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 3: built up. So yeah, he said, everybody's feeling good after

2542
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:10,840
Speaker 3: that win, and I think feeling like, hey, let's go

2543
01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:11,599
Speaker 3: get a win at home.

2544
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:13,040
Speaker 1: So also too they.

2545
01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 3: You know how they have the nameplates up the top,

2546
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:19,439
Speaker 3: they're all digital. Now they were red for the throwback

2547
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 3: game this week, so.

2548
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 1: I've never seen it. There was just a so just

2549
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:26,160
Speaker 1: a red haze all up, very bright, very bright, like.

2550
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:30,680
Speaker 4: Christopher Walking when you said that red red Hay, that.

2551
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,200
Speaker 1: Was a red haze about me. I could I was.

2552
01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:33,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2553
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 1: I found a little bit much, but it was funny.

2554
01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 3: One of the members and now you know what I'm

2555
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 3: thinking about, right, he took this watch in his But

2556
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:42,640
Speaker 3: one of the members of media like, you know, it's

2557
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 3: clearly if there's red everywhere, all the pat Patriots helmets

2558
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 3: are out. And I heard one of the media guys,

2559
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 3: just one of the camera brandom guys, like, oh, they

2560
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 3: were in those white.

2561
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 1: Helmets this week. Bro, it's a throwback week. Come on,

2562
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 1: get on our level.

2563
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 2: Okay, So they will be in throwbacks, they will be

2564
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 2: in throwbacks.

2565
01:54:57,520 --> 01:54:59,840
Speaker 3: Okay, Ready, how were they against the Steelers in the

2566
01:54:59,880 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 3: thing throwbably?

2567
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 1: Not too good in the seventies.

2568
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:05,960
Speaker 4: I'm at I don't win in seventy six yeah, in

2569
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 4: throw right, not throw the were actually that was the

2570
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:12,800
Speaker 4: throat then.

2571
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Patriots. There was somebody who wrote in and said

2572
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:18,560
Speaker 2: he's coming first time for a game.

2573
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 4: Well, Anthony and Seattle's coming.

2574
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, he just wanted some info about Saturday's uh Saturday. Yeah,

2575
01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 2: So the info on Saturday for the induction is it

2576
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:37,480
Speaker 2: starts at four o'clock in the Patriots Place Patriot Place

2577
01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 2: Plaza below the stairs. I don't know the exact setup,

2578
01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:46,600
Speaker 2: but it's free of charge, So just show up, I would.

2579
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to get close, I don't

2580
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:50,520
Speaker 2: think it matters. You know, you can. They're gonna have

2581
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 2: screens probably set up so you'll be able to see

2582
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 2: wherever you're sitting. You can sit on the stairs, you

2583
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:59,280
Speaker 2: can you can be anywhere. But if you you know,

2584
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 2: obviously they're earlier to get there, the closer he'll be.

2585
01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 2: And I would say two o'clock is when you probably

2586
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 2: want to get there if you really want to get close.

2587
01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 2: But otherwise, you know, just show up and like I said,

2588
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:15,960
Speaker 2: you don't have to pay. Parking is free, and it'll

2589
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 2: be a great event and it's going to be Bill

2590
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 2: Parcels and Julian Edelman starting at for you know, I'm

2591
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:24,600
Speaker 2: sure there'll be other speakers and video and and all that,

2592
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,680
Speaker 2: so that that should be really good. So if you're

2593
01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 2: in the area, check it out.

2594
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:30,080
Speaker 4: Check it out.

2595
01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, any any people coming into town for these two guys.

2596
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 2: I don't know the guest list now, Yeah.

2597
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 3: I would assume Edelman is going to have a pretty

2598
01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:42,000
Speaker 3: good guest list. A lot of guys come off for him. YEA,

2599
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:45,160
Speaker 3: be probably a pretty good party Saturday night, I imagine too.

2600
01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 2: I wonder who I think Scott Pioli will be here,

2601
01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:50,280
Speaker 2: Bill's son in law.

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01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's that's.

2603
01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 4: A great point for good chance, good chance, Dallas.

2604
01:56:54,680 --> 01:56:57,760
Speaker 2: I think some of the old writers will be coming back, Paul.

2605
01:56:57,840 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 4: That's what Matt and I would talk Matt, Matti Nosa

2606
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:02,879
Speaker 4: and I were talking about that today. You know, Kevin Mannix,

2607
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:06,280
Speaker 4: Ron Hobson, you know, maybe Ron Borges, some of those guys.

2608
01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:08,240
Speaker 4: But I don't know, like does it lend itself to

2609
01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:10,839
Speaker 4: being able to like really talk to parcels.

2610
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:14,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. They loved him, yeah.

2611
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he had a great relationship with Hobby.

2612
01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 4: He was always very very fun back and forth with

2613
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:22,800
Speaker 4: Ron Hobson, who The.

2614
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:25,480
Speaker 3: Award is named after correct good guy the media Good

2615
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:25,960
Speaker 3: Guy Award.

2616
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:26,720
Speaker 4: You will not.

2617
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 3: But he would have back and forth as a good guy,

2618
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:30,720
Speaker 3: fun fun, fun back and forth.

2619
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:34,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right, Yeah, I think this is before me.

2620
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:37,680
Speaker 2: Unlike Belichick, who I really honestly think had disdained for

2621
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:39,160
Speaker 2: the media, like felt they.

2622
01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:42,240
Speaker 1: Would below hands people generally, probably, I.

2623
01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:46,160
Speaker 2: Think Parcels respected the media, especially the older guys, like

2624
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 2: they're kind of his kind of guy, you know, and

2625
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:52,040
Speaker 2: he understood the job that they had to do. And

2626
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:54,960
Speaker 2: I think the more crusty you were, I think the

2627
01:57:55,040 --> 01:58:01,440
Speaker 2: more he related. Yeah, because he was a crusty guy. Yeah,

2628
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:05,240
Speaker 2: but I don't being maybe I'm just you know, because

2629
01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 2: he's from that New Jersey, New York area, you know,

2630
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:10,240
Speaker 2: he's one.

2631
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:11,400
Speaker 4: Of the areas that Fred's from.

2632
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, he just he just got along

2633
01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:16,080
Speaker 2: with those types of guys better.

2634
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2635
01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:18,640
Speaker 3: Sure, like the I don't know, I'm just picturing the

2636
01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:21,839
Speaker 3: old newspaper guy smoking cigarettes typing here.

2637
01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot of that.

2638
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 1: That's what That's what Parcels was. He was the guys

2639
01:58:25,880 --> 01:58:26,600
Speaker 1: smoking butts.

2640
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:30,040
Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm excited to, like I said, I just

2641
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:31,920
Speaker 3: get him back in the fold just you know, see

2642
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 3: what he what he has to say, and you know

2643
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 3: how it kind of becomes full circle for that whole period,

2644
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:39,080
Speaker 3: which you know, for me was like really I was

2645
01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:41,480
Speaker 3: a Patriots fan, but like once Parcels came in blood,

2646
01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:44,240
Speaker 3: so that was like game on and that was that

2647
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 3: was pretty I.

2648
01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 4: Was always a Patriots fan. I'm not going to pretend

2649
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 4: to have gotten on board, you know when they came.

2650
01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:53,320
Speaker 4: But when they came, that's when, yeah, you finally will

2651
01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:55,840
Speaker 4: like everybody else, now we're a legitimate franchise. And then

2652
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:58,920
Speaker 4: Robert buys the team the next year, here we go,

2653
01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:00,600
Speaker 4: here we go, right, Yeah.

2654
01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:02,520
Speaker 2: I remember, you know, Parcel's what I was say, I

2655
01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:04,920
Speaker 2: don't pay attention to one day, you know, and one

2656
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:07,160
Speaker 2: day I'm in front of the stadium and he pulls

2657
01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:10,200
Speaker 2: up in his Cadillac and gets out of his car

2658
01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:13,800
Speaker 2: with a pile of Global barrels that he's throwing away

2659
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:16,520
Speaker 2: that have been piling up in his car because you know,

2660
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:19,920
Speaker 2: he read it right right, and he saw me looking

2661
01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:22,680
Speaker 2: at him, and he kind of smiles like you caught me.

2662
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:24,960
Speaker 1: So no PFW's in there.

2663
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:28,520
Speaker 2: Maybe all right, that's going to be it for this

2664
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:33,600
Speaker 2: edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back tomorrow at noon,

2665
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:37,520
Speaker 2: so we'll wrap it up. We'll do our picks. Any preview, Paul,

2666
01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:39,640
Speaker 2: how did the gang do so?

2667
01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 4: I mean this is a new Sheriff. I mean it's

2668
01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:43,879
Speaker 4: just Alex's world and we're all living.

2669
01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:45,040
Speaker 2: In Oh is that right? Wow?

2670
01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:49,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I remain in the basement with the poop

2671
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 4: Emoji's okay, I'm having a tough start to the season.

2672
01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:55,160
Speaker 2: Well, we'll go over it all tomorrow. We'll see you then.

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01:59:58,240 --> 02:00:00,400
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02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:02,040
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02:00:02,160 --> 02:00:04,560
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02:00:04,640 --> 02:00:06,840
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2677
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:09,040
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2678
02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:10,839
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02:00:10,960 --> 02:00:11,520
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