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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called

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Speaker 1: me Ben. We are joined as always with our super

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Speaker 1: producer Paul Mission Controlled deconds. Most importantly, you are you,

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Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this the stuff they

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Speaker 1: don't want you to know. It's the most wonderful time

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Speaker 1: of the week. If you're tuning in when today's show

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Speaker 1: comes out, then it is Thursday, which means it is

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Speaker 1: time for our listener mail segment. We have been receiving

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Speaker 1: some incredible correspondence. As always, Thank you to everyone who's

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Speaker 1: written in, Thank you to everyone email, thank you to

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Speaker 1: everyone who's called um, and thanks to thanks to the dentist.

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Speaker 1: Actually that um No. I don't know if you go

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Speaker 1: wonderful guy, will like ask me questions about conspiracies and

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Speaker 1: slam his hand in my mouth while you're under the drill.

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Speaker 1: That's that's kind of sinister. Dr Presley. You know who

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Speaker 1: you are. You know you are Dr Presley. His name

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Speaker 1: is Dr Pressley, Yeah, first Presley. Yeah, his first name

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Speaker 1: is literally doctor. Yeah. Well I'm kidding, of course, that

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Speaker 1: song is a banger um. Yeah, so you know, just

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Speaker 1: picture this is what our lives are like outside of

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Speaker 1: the air, folks. Picture picture faithful correspondent going to the

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Speaker 1: dentist and then it's like, oh, hey, I do have

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Speaker 1: and then we killed Kennedy. Uh, but he's doing well

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Speaker 1: since his regards, hope everybody else is doing well. Uh

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Speaker 1: as well, since we're getting paid by how many times

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Speaker 1: we say the word well apparently at the beginning here, uh,

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Speaker 1: we're going to explore some disturbing stories. We're going to

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Speaker 1: explore some topical stories. We're going to hear some messages

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Speaker 1: from you, some of which are stranger than others fellow

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Speaker 1: conspiracy realists. UM, I haven't talked to you guys about

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Speaker 1: this off air, but I'm still loving the people are

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Speaker 1: sending in ghost stories. I am beat me here, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I am thinking all about it. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's always Halloween in America when you think about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not letting it lie. There's one that's gonna appear today.

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Speaker 1: The ghost it's gonna appear. It's going to make it

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Speaker 1: a spooky impiance. Yes, like possibly, I too enjoy the

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Speaker 1: stories to continue to float their way in. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: uh so much so that who knows. Maybe we'll just

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Speaker 1: but we're we're not rolling it out either. We're going

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Speaker 1: It wasn't It was like a few days ago, right,

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Speaker 1: It's from z S. Chaser. I think that's so. I'm

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Speaker 1: a nice, pithy short one. Um Hey guys, z s

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Speaker 1: because there have been quite a few incidents at Travis

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Speaker 1: multiple accounts that are all over the internet if you

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Speaker 1: us to listen to. But uh, I'm surely not the

427
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: only person in the audience today who enjoys investigating those

428
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: kinds of things. And you when you start with the mundane,

429
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: is there maybe a speaker system, is someone playing a prank?

430
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: Is there's someone in a nearby structure or room that

431
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: could have been playing something? But this sounds like Conlin

432
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: nan Caro type chaos. P look up that guy in

433
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: a N C A R R O W and let

434
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: us know if that's kind of what it sounds like.

435
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: Have you guys ever heard that that piano composer it's sanity.

436
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: It's like the band Square Pusher, but it's this guy

437
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: who purposely wrote these compositions that could not be played

438
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: by human hands. Um, because people get into wild stuff. Um. Yeah,

439
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: I would say, there's uh. First, the big question P

440
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: and I don't mean to RaSE you here. A phrase

441
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: I love is uh, what would you have done with

442
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: the bat? Like if it was a ghost? Well maybe,

443
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: but I guess the idea is maybe it wasn't a ghost. Right.

444
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: It sounds like, yeah, it sounds like pie'ce initial reaction

445
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: with somebody's you know, trying to scare me, or maybe

446
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: it was you know, meant to hurt me and like

447
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: got me out of there. Well, I'm gonna defend myself

448
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: in this chapel, so I'm going back inside. That's peace, Yeah,

449
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: I see that. I also think that there's a really

450
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: common belief in in uh, instruments, in particular musical instruments,

451
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 1: becoming repositories for some sort of energy, whether you want

452
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: to call that piano paranormal or whether you want to

453
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: say it's a cultural psychological framing thing. Uh, but p

454
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: it sounds like you have not had a history of

455
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: auditory hallucinations. It sounds like this is you set up

456
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: the story so well by saying that other people have

457
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: reported that friends of p have reported seeing or experiencing

458
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: paranormal activity in this vicinity. So I wonder if anybody

459
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: else reported hearing something, and if they did, which I'm

460
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: altto certainly have right given the storied history here, if

461
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: they did, how amazing would it be if they heard

462
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: the same song? You know. That's that's a good That's

463
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: an interesting place to start. What do you guys think? Yeah, perfect, hey,

464
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: did you did you go to a liberal arts college

465
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: and the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains right to us

466
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: and let us know about your chapels. Piano. I had

467
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: to quickly just chim And I didn't have my haunting

468
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 1: experience at this place, but I feel like I should have. Um.

469
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: I went to a fine arts magnus school in the

470
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: town where I grew up, Augusta, Georgia, called Davidson Fine Arts.

471
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: And uh, the last year of the existence of the old,

472
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: old decrepit building that it was in for many many

473
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: years was my first year there. I was or for

474
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: like fifth fifth grade, I think, and then if we

475
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: moved to a brand new building, but um, it remained

476
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: derelict and like you know, um they had us asbestos

477
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: and it was like a real problematic building and it

478
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: was like a blight. And I finally got like bulldozed,

479
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: but me and some friends like snuck into it and

480
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: the auditorium all the seats were covered with like tarps

481
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: and stuff, and there was all this like you know,

482
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: just um asbestos dust everywhere. It's really stupid thing to

483
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: have done. But there were like in the halls just

484
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: piles of like old textbooks, just like massive mountains of them,

485
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: and like desks just piled like and you know lay

486
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: miss like the barricade or something like that. And it

487
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: was the spookiest thing ever. And then you know, we

488
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: had like all of these uh um iso booths where

489
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: you could practice, you know, like um quiet rooms, and

490
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: those were still there. Uh And there were also lots

491
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: of old, weird, decrepit out of tune pianos there. And

492
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: I wish I had had a spooky event. Nothing spooky

493
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: happened except for just the existence of this place, but

494
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: would've been a perfect opportunity for a haunting, real missed opportunity.

495
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: Ghosts definitely. So yeah, right to us about Europeano huntings,

496
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: we want to hear them. We're indi instrument, you know, bassoon, harmonica.

497
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: I'll take a steel drum. Everyone knows the bassoon is

498
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: the spookiest of band instruments, you know, I quite I

499
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: quite love the spookiness of the cello. You know, it's

500
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: all like heartbreak and goth and crumbling fingertips on statues.

501
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: It's cooetic. Yeah, give us those haunted harp stories. We're

502
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: all about them, all of them harpsichords bring it on.

503
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: But hey, that's an all p Thank you. For letting

504
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: us know about your story. We're gonna jump to one

505
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: more message that comes from Starlight. Hey guys, you can

506
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: call me Starlight. I just listen to the least episode

507
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: and you're talking about the Felis Cartel and Bals now

508
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,239
Speaker 1: expert on ld BALB, but I do have a lot

509
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: of experience with using them just with my job, and

510
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: I do another thing or two by lectron it and

511
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: led is absolutely can last, you know, thirtyurs, like that's

512
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: just how they work. But I think how they limit

513
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: the lifespan of these LED bulbs is actually with the

514
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: capacitors inside, and if you look up the capacitor temperature

515
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: versus lifespan chart, what you'll see is as they run hotter,

516
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: they last a shorter amount of time. And how these

517
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: drivers circuits work inside these bulbs is if that capacitor fails,

518
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: the whole bulb goes out or starts the flicker. So

519
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: I think, I think that's what they're doing because I've

520
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: never seen an ld babb at last, you know, thirty

521
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: fifty hours, but I've seen L E d s and

522
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,239
Speaker 1: other things that have been lit up for decades, so

523
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: I know that they can last a long time, And

524
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: I think the way they're artificially limiting the lifespan is

525
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: by running them bout a higher temperature, so they way

526
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: I enjoy the shell. Feel free to use this on

527
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: the air. And uh, you guys later, thanks? Interesting Do

528
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: you think running them at a higher temperature makes them brighter? Well,

529
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: it's weird because LED bulbs don't run on heat, right.

530
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: LED bulbs run on electricity, just the amount you're sending

531
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: into them, so like its limits the flow of electrons. Right,

532
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: And it's but it's not like a filament, right that's

533
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: actually heating up to generate the light. I misspoke, by

534
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: the way. Um, it is a pretty easy mistake to make.

535
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: But a capacitor, uh stores and releases electricity. It's a

536
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: resistor that can like dissipate electric energy. So the capacitor

537
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: literally like you know, can store it and then release

538
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: it as needed. And a resistor is something that like

539
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: causes resistance between two points in a circuit and limits

540
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: or like slows the flow of electricity. But yes, uh,

541
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: starlight is correct here. If you go to green lighting

542
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: dot ceo dot UK, you can read this quick little

543
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: blurb about how LED lighting generally both impressive life spans,

544
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: at least compared to traditional bulbs and other forms of bulbs.

545
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 1: And the main issue here is the quality of the components.

546
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: So it's not the actual l ed light itself that

547
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: is the thing that's going to burn out the way

548
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: a filament would burn out in a traditional bulb. It

549
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: is the capacitor. And how long this light last depends

550
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: directly on the capacitors and the other components within that bulb.

551
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just right there on the face of it.

552
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: You can find that on a ton of other websites

553
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: that tell you all about that depends on whether or

554
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: not that capacitor is made of plastic or ceramic or

555
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: some other substance. Generally, ceramic capacitors are gonna last a

556
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: lot longer, and you will pay more for that bulb

557
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: that has a ceramic capacitor. In a lot of ways,

558
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: it's you get what you pay for. So if it's

559
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: cheaper components to make each individual bulb, they're going to

560
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: go out suster so it is, and running amid a

561
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: higher temperature is going to be more damaging. That's just

562
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: how any mechanic, like any electronic or mechanical device works,

563
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: it's the same reason why you know, um, it's the

564
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: same reason why tires on race cars wear out so

565
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: much more quickly than tires on your local Honda Civic

566
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: or camera or god forbid, Honda Odyssey. Don't buy, God,

567
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: just don't do. And yes, Ben to what you were saying. Generally,

568
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: LED bulbs function the best when they're between sixty five

569
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: degrees fahrenheit and seventy five degrees fahrenheit And if you like, like,

570
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: that's their best operating temperature essentially, not for the bulb itself,

571
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: but their environment. And if you go above that seventy

572
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: five degrees, that's when those components are not going to

573
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: function to their best ability essentially. That you can find

574
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: out on Bob Vila dot com everybody. That's exciting, and

575
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: I want to recommend an article for people to read.

576
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: It's in hack a Day dot com h A C

577
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: K A d A y dot com. There's an article

578
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: called what Happened to the one thousand hour LED Bulbs

579
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: posted February five, two thousand nineteen by Ted Yappo y

580
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: A p O. There's it's just a great breakdown of

581
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: several different LED bulbs that were on the market in

582
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen, bulbs that were supposed to last sent

583
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: some that were supposed to last fifteen thousand hours, and

584
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: another was supposed to last twenty five thousand hours. And

585
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: it actually they take the bulb part off right, the

586
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: part that looks like a light bulb, and they look

587
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: at the components inside and really break down how each

588
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: one functions and why it may perform for a longer

589
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: amount of time. Oh, and there is I would advance starlight.

590
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: There is another l e ED conspiracy that you should

591
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: be aware of. If you're like, I'm sleeping too easily

592
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: at night? Why am I just can't you encount past four? Sheep?

593
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: It's this h In addition to the ability to illuminate

594
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: the darkness, l e ED fixtures can be used to

595
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: spy on people. No way, like like they can be repurposed,

596
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: Yes way, ted they can? Yeah, yeah. This has been

597
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: reported in places like Computer World as far back as

598
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: U l A. L e ED lights can covertly listen,

599
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: so they can hear audio. Some can send that audio

600
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: a relatively short distance, like three away to somebody else. Uh,

601
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: it's not just closed circuit television anymore. So, I guess

602
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: I guess something like an Alexa was around before, right,

603
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: we just called them lightbulbs. I don't know if these

604
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: are the kinds you can buy it at stores, but um.

605
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: A while back, The New York Times reported that almost

606
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: two hundred L e ED fixtures hundred seventy one light

607
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: bulbs in Terminal B at Newark Liberty International Airport were

608
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: quote unquote watching the crowd. I never thought of this

609
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: is very weird. Well, hey, Starlight, thank you for writing

610
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: in for giving us that info. We hope everybody out

611
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: there has good lighting wherever you are, keep it dim,

612
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: turn it off when you're not around. You can save

613
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: some some money. And uh, the various light bulb cartels

614
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: don't want you to know that you can save your

615
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: bulbs by just not using them. It's crazy, right, That's

616
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: that's the heart of the conspiracy there. Yeah. I mean

617
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: you make a really really good point, Matt, which is

618
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: that um, because of because of the way they function.

619
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: I think L e ED bulbs, right, can dim or

620
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: diminish over time? Is that correct? Yes? Yeah, Uh, they're

621
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: they're like, there's so much to read and to know

622
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 1: about the l D bulbs, and they're also very vastly

623
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: different in their construction and the components within them. So

624
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: I would just say do do your own research if

625
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: you're interested and like finding the best bulbs and things.

626
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: We're not going to recommend one to you, but a

627
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: bunch of the companies make them, including GE, which is

628
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: being up into three different companies now, Yes, Aviation, Healthcare,

629
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: and the wonderfully vaguely named Energy. So what is that.

630
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: That's just reactors the reactors, right, Yeah, for sure. But

631
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: but GE and Phillips were two of the major players

632
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: in that initial Phoebus cartel story, and Phillips is one

633
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: of the leaders in um l e ed bulbs today

634
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: with their whole hue line. I have them from my

635
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: whole house and I love them. But they're also like

636
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: seventy five bucks a pop um, so they damn well

637
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: better last longer than a thousand hours, or last longer

638
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Speaker 1: than a traditional light bulb that costs, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple of bucks. Yeah, and we should also mention

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Speaker 1: if you want to learn more about the entire dirty

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00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: story of the Phoebus cartel and the fundamental role it

642
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Speaker 1: played in what we call planned obsolescence, please check out

643
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Speaker 1: the YouTube video we did a number of years ago.

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Speaker 1: Please also check out our full audio episode that we

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Speaker 1: did uh number of years ago. It's an historic event,

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Speaker 1: so the facts aren't really going to change. They did

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Speaker 1: the industry dirty and they made a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: Yes they did, and we hope we didn't do you dirty.

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Speaker 1: P or Starlight. Thank you for sending in your voice

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Speaker 1: so we can play it on here. We'll be right

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Speaker 1: back after another word from our sponsors, and we have

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Speaker 1: returned for our final piece or pieces of listener mail today. UM,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something different today. I'd like to share

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Speaker 1: a story that's a bit of a palate cleanser, and

655
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: then I'd also like to explicitly ask our fellow conspiracy

656
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: realist for help. And some you know a lot of

657
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: us in the crowd will reach out to me on

658
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: on social media, UM to ask a certain question or

659
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: to follow up with something, and that's invaluable. You're the

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00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: most important part of this show. And more often than not,

661
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: and I'm just I can't speak for everyone here, but

662
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: more often than not, I run into situations where I

663
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: genuinely not only do I not know the answer, but

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Speaker 1: the guesses I can make just become increasingly disturbing, and

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Speaker 1: so stay tuned for At the end, we're gonna ask

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00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: specifically for your opinion on something. But in the meantime,

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00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: how about a palate cleanser. You guys, we received the

668
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: most delightful email from somebody who has decided to call

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Speaker 1: themselves chicken Guy. Seven seven five six seven seven four.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's There are a lot of chicken guys

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00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: out there, man, but you're our chicken guy. To be

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00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 1: very clear, hope that's not a phone number, Uh, it's

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00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: I guess we could consult some numerologists to figure out

674
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Speaker 1: what area code is represented by the linguistic phrase chicken guy.

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Speaker 1: So Matt, I could tell you're on the case here. Um, so,

676
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: chicken guy, here's what you said. I'm you're gonna paraphrase

677
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: a little here. Hey, gang, big fan of the show.

678
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: I love the way you all dive into crazy subjects

679
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: and pick them apart and look at them rationally. Really

680
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: refreshing and fun way to look at conspiracy theories. Thank you,

681
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: Chicken Guy seven seven five six seven seven four. The

682
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 1: reason I am contacting you all today is a strange story.

683
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: My girlfriend told me. It's not as big or as

684
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: fancy as the other listeners stories you've gotten, but it's

685
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: just too strange not to share. The story goes like this,

686
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: and Matt Noll, if you haven't read this email, this

687
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: is great. I am having so much fun with this one. Uh.

688
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: We were eating lunch, says chicken guy seven seven five

689
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: six seven seven four with my family after church, and

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Speaker 1: somehow the conversation landed on the subject of churches chicken.

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Speaker 1: Pausing here, Noll, Matt, we know churches Chicken. We got

692
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Speaker 1: those here in Atlanta. Are you guys fans of churches Chicken?

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Speaker 1: It's all right? I mean the way they have those

694
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Speaker 1: honey biscuits that I really like. They have like honey

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Speaker 1: like flavored, kind of like basted biscuits. They're quite good. Yeah, Chicken,

696
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: they do spicy chicken. You never hear of churches. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm I tend to be a Popeye's guy,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna turn I like

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Speaker 1: how I like how we have at our office. We're

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00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: right down the street from this awesome Popeye's with some

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Speaker 1: very very blunt people working there. So I don't know

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00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: abou Jangles. Yeah, that's why well, that's how the triumvirate dissipates.

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Speaker 1: We'll go off to our respective chicken places. Anybody now,

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Speaker 1: And I do like a Cajun filet biscuit from bouj Angles.

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Speaker 1: Do That's that's what I want right now. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I've ever been to a Bojangles, to a lot

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00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: of I've been to a lot of chicken shacks in

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00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: my time, but I was just like enamored of the

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00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: Popeye's next to our office when I pulled up one day,

710
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: just in a hurry to get lunch, and the person

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Speaker 1: at the drive through just said, what When I rolled up,

712
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: it was amazing. So anyway, that's that's nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with this story from Chicken Guy. I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: gauge you guys opinions for the next time I bring

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00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: you lunch. Um. Alright, so chicken Guy says. The conversation

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00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: landed on the subject the church's chicken. My girlfriend immediately

717
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: lit up and told us all the story about a

718
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Speaker 1: church's chicken from her hometown in Mansfield, Ohio. The story

719
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Speaker 1: goes that there was a church's chicken that she and

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Speaker 1: her family went to a lot, and then one day

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Speaker 1: it just mysteriously shut down. All the windows were boarded up,

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Speaker 1: the building was painted gray. Signs were taken down and

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Speaker 1: painted over. The crazy part is when she told me

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Speaker 1: that there was an article about the church's chicken never

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Speaker 1: actually existing legally in the first place. Thinking this is

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00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: too much to be true, I looked it up and

727
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: sure enough, it is true. A reporter went on and

728
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Speaker 1: tried to find the truth behind why this was shut down,

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00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: and in the end this reporter and uh chicken guy

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Speaker 1: links us to the article. Uh couldn't find anyone who

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00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: could explain why it was closed, couldn't find the manager.

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Speaker 1: The staff went to Church's Chicken corporate and they said

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Speaker 1: they don't know what happened. They don't know why there

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Speaker 1: was never a church's Chicken in the town, the entirety

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Speaker 1: of this town in Ohio to begin with. And there's

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Speaker 1: one line from the reporter. He says, as boke with

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Speaker 1: a man named Luise who told me there was no

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Speaker 1: active church's Chicken in Mansfield. When I asked if there

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Speaker 1: ever had been one, he told me there was not

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Speaker 1: a Church's Chicken in Mansfield in the system at all.

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Speaker 1: And so he says, I don't want to be dishonest.

742
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: I might be wrong about the whole restaurant never existing,

743
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: but he says there's not one in the system currently.

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00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: He also asked if there's ever been one. The guy

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00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: says no. But if I'm reading it correctly, it sounds

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Speaker 1: like they're saying there was never an actual official Church's

747
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: Chicken in Mansfield, Ohio. So if it wasn't Church's Chicken,

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00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: then what was it? Are you kidding? O Jangles in disguise?

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00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: Right like the Transformers theme, but it's chicken. This is

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Speaker 1: um so. I I enjoyed this because, first off, first off,

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00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: thank you Chicken guy for sending this this letter our way.

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00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: These are the kind of regional mysteries. I don't know

753
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 1: about you guys, but these are kind of regional mysteries

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00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: I really dig because it sounds like someone started a

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00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: fake Church's Chicken and then like left when the heat

756
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: got too close. Are you sure they're not talking about

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00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: the Church of Chicken the Lesser the Little Known Cult? Yeah?

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00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it spelled c h U r C

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00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: H apostrophe s or yes? I think r H. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've never really given this much thought. I believe it's uh. Yes,

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00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: Oh I gues. It's just yes, it's apostrophes. Is that okay?

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00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: All right, you're right, you're right. So I'm wondering if

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Speaker 1: there was a differently spelled churches chicken. Right, that's someone No, wait,

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00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: hold on, yeah, hold the phone. I'm looking at the

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00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: link that was said to us. Yeah, yep, yep, that's

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Speaker 1: a real picture of a closed down like regular logo

767
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: churches chicken. Yeah. Oh yeah, they got away. This is something.

768
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know why we talked about this

769
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: on on stuff they want you to know, but something

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00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: fascinates me. Counterfeit fast food places. I don't know, we

771
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: could do it. We could do a non harrowing episode

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00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: one day and just choose something like explore counterfeit fast

773
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: food places because there are a lot of like internationally,

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00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: it's so fascinating, dude. There are countries that do to sanctions,

775
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: can't have things like a McDonald's, etcetera. Right, and so

776
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: they have these local variations that are almost exactly like McDonald's.

777
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: The language is different, but I you know, like think

778
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: of like Burger Kang with the ag or burger crane.

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00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: If we want to do teenage mutant Ninja Turtles there's

780
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: a really great episode of Nathan for You where he

781
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: uses a parody law to create essentially a Starbucks clone

782
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: called Dumb Starbucks. Yes, he uses all of the same

783
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: branding and apparently I just looked it up and it

784
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: says dumb Starbucks forced to close after owner reveals himself

785
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: as Comedy Central show host. I remember that. That's a

786
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: great show and that episode is amazing. I love that show.

787
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: It's so clever. So the good news is or the

788
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: weird news is chicken guy, you are correct, sir, Give

789
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: the man a Give the man a sandwich and a biscuit, because, uh,

790
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: this this does it here to be some kind of

791
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: very weird. I'm thinking. I'm thinking it was a very

792
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: weird scam. I'm thinking maybe somehow somebody just got just

793
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: decided to maybe make a church's chicken without paying the

794
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: franchise fee. Franchising is its own weird thing, by the way. Um,

795
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: and then they got maybe they got caught. Maybe maybe

796
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: an actual churches man blew into town and checked his

797
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: great map of all the church's chickens and said, there's

798
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: something amiss, you know what I mean, like a chicken,

799
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: like a fake fast food location. Bounty hunter like Dog

800
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: the bounty Hunter, but with chicken shacks church. Yes. Uh

801
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 1: so the issue is that this reporter according this link

802
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: that Chicken Guy sent us. This reporter even called the

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00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: Secretary of State, who was able to verify that a

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00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: company named BAM Enterprises based in Columbus, Ohio owned the

805
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: actual building. Uh. BAM Enterprises is uh, it was founded

806
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight. It's only got one to

807
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,479
Speaker 1: five employees. Private it's private business. Uh. You can read

808
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: a little bit about their um, you know, their business profile,

809
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: but they don't. You know, there's not really a statement

810
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: about church's chicken. And now I've just this reminds me

811
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: of that time we were looking through New York to

812
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 1: find fake buildings. I wonder like, was it a front

813
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 1: for something? Surely not, because Chicken Guy's girlfriend went there

814
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: on a regular basis for years. Someone was just for

815
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: some reason, it appears, pretending to be a church's chicken.

816
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: How do you how do you get you ever see,

817
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: you ever hear about someone's life and you think, no judgment,

818
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: But how did they get to that moment? How did

819
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: they get to that? You know what George Bush would

820
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: call a decision point what in their life made them

821
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 1: look around one day and say, I want to fake

822
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: having a church's chicken. That's my thing. Well, they I'm

823
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: just remembering a certain chicken place from a certain television

824
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: show about Yes, wait, it's just the your brain thing. No, no,

825
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: this is this is the Breaking Bad Chicken place. Is

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Speaker 1: a real place. I always I think, yeah, I always

827
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: think they're the same. Um. By the way, unrelated but

828
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 1: somewhat related. UM. I recently did a Halloween movie marathon,

829
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: like I'm sure we all sort of did, and I

830
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: watched the Stephen King adaptation of the short story Trucks

831
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: that was made into a very very bad eighties movie.

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00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: The King himself directed, likely under the influence of a

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00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: meth like substance that he was very into at the

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Speaker 1: time called Maximum Overdrive, and in it, UM, these trucks

835
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: get possessed by like aliens from another dimension unclear, very

836
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 1: very convoluted plot, but a cameo appearance in the first

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00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: one of the first scenes in the truck stop arcade

838
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: is none other than the actor who plays Gus Spring

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Speaker 1: in UM Breaking Bad. When he's like, you know, maybe

840
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: in his early twenties. Uh, he gets spoiler alert he

841
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: gets fried by some very bad painted on electricity that

842
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: comes out of like a Space Invaders machine or something.

843
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: And you see you say you didn't like that film,

844
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: but this is the second time you've mentioned it. I

845
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: liked it a lot. It was so bad that it

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00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: was good, very bad. Yeah. The trailer trailer itself, it's

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Speaker 1: Stephen King, and he's like, all he's here. People direct

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Speaker 1: tried to direct Stephen King films, and I just decided

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Speaker 1: if he wants something dead right, do your self, like

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to, but I know I think we are.

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Speaker 1: It is wild, you guys, And clearly he never directed

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Speaker 1: another film again, but yeah, he gave his best shot.

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Speaker 1: That actor is Giancarlo Esposito, I believe, Yeah, that's exactly. Yes,

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Speaker 1: major shout out to far Christ Sis anybody. He's playing

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Speaker 1: that right now, because he plays the big bad he's

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Speaker 1: all stand up in it too, like it looks like

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Speaker 1: him the character, which usually it's just the voice actors,

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Speaker 1: but they've been doing a lot more like Likenesses was

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Speaker 1: that other one with the guy from Walking Dead where

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Speaker 1: he's very much like up in it, standing something like that.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not sure how to segue back to Church's Chicken.

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Speaker 1: But I am going to finish this up. So this,

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Speaker 1: uh this, if you want to see the remains of

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Speaker 1: this building for yourself, like cannot um, we cannot legally

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Speaker 1: tell you to snoop around there and see what you

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Speaker 1: can find. But all you have to do is go

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Speaker 1: to two seven six Park Avenue West there in Mansfield, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: This is public information. Big thanks to Chicken Guy. Big

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Speaker 1: thanks to Noah Jones, the reporter who wrote the Richland

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Speaker 1: Source article on this. As far as the other as

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Speaker 1: far as the other threads we will pull, Honestly, we

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Speaker 1: would have to take some time to figure out what's

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Speaker 1: going on. It is unusual. Two, it is unusual to

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Speaker 1: trace these stories. And then there rabbit holes that I

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Speaker 1: immensely enjoy. We do want to point out that the

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Speaker 1: reporters found an oil company was involved. The place based

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Speaker 1: in Delaware called Humble Oil and Refining Company sold the

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Speaker 1: property back in the day to something I entifying itself

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Speaker 1: as Church's Fried Chicken with a po box in San Antonio,

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Speaker 1: Texas back in two Uh, nobody nobody knew really uh

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Speaker 1: what happened? Oh, Matt, you gotta that's a revelation face.

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Speaker 1: I know you will. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: What is it? I went to Google Maps. I went

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Speaker 1: to the location that you just mentioned. If if you're

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Speaker 1: on the main street going down uh next to this location,

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Speaker 1: it is a gray building all great out, gray painted

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Speaker 1: over particle board that's up on the all the windows.

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Speaker 1: If you go forward just a little bit and you

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Speaker 1: take oh yep, if you go forward just a little bit,

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Speaker 1: you can see the entire churches the way it used

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Speaker 1: to stand if you go down North Benton Street, Uh.

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Speaker 1: And it is so stark and strange to see the

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Speaker 1: two build things. They're together at the same time as

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Speaker 1: we're hearing about the story. Weird. Yeah, yeah, good eye man,

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Speaker 1: because I had Um, I looked around there too. That's

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Speaker 1: so I like, this is where this is what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about. We're saying, send us your local mysteries. Send it,

898
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 1: you know, your local cryptids. Send us these strange stories. Um.

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Speaker 1: I hope, Matt Noel, I hope you guys are into them,

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Speaker 1: because I'm just gonna be optionate about this. I want

901
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: to know, like if there's something I like the guy

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00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: wrote in about the closed Walmart housing military equipment. Those

903
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: are stories that don't really make you know national news

904
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: and every so often there's something strange about So please

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Speaker 1: please right to us, call us, email us, give us

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Speaker 1: your stories, these local mysteries, whether sinister, whether absurd, whether amusing,

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Speaker 1: whether you think they are possibly paranormal. Would love to

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00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: read them. But four we wrap up today. They want

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Speaker 1: to make good on what I said earlier. Uh, this,

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Speaker 1: this is a request, This may be a this may

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Speaker 1: lead everybody into unpleasant territory. But I recently received a

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Speaker 1: question via my personal social media regarding the possibility of

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Speaker 1: Dylan Roof being not just a lone actor, but the

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Speaker 1: question asking whether or not he was ordered by some

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Speaker 1: group or organization to perpetrate the the horrific mass killing

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Speaker 1: of nine people there in Charleston. And I've done some

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Speaker 1: digging on this. I'm thinking this is part of a

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Speaker 1: bigger story, possibly secret secret societies or secret organizations existing

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Speaker 1: in different levels of of power, structures that may be

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00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: ideologically motivated by by racist beliefs. The question is how

921
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Speaker 1: deep does it go? The question is was Dylan Roof

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Speaker 1: involved or was he as the official media narrative states,

923
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Speaker 1: was he someone who self radicalized online? That's what you'll hear. Now, however,

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Speaker 1: I do want to point out before we all get

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Speaker 1: to hunting down this idea or to you know, thinking

926
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Speaker 1: of our own theories or walking through the possibilities. Uh,

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Speaker 1: do you want to point out that a friend of

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Speaker 1: Dylan Roof's was was facing conspiracy charges from the FBI. Now,

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Speaker 1: the legal definition of a conspiracy is not necessarily the

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Speaker 1: same thing as the casual conversational tone we use when

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Speaker 1: discussing conspiracies. So at this point, would love to hear

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Speaker 1: your thoughts. UM, gonna do some more digging on this

933
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Speaker 1: end and then circle back, But in the meantime, UM,

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Speaker 1: please provide your insight. Uh, please give us your ideas.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this is maybe alarmist? Do you think

936
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Speaker 1: there's something more to this story? Uh? I cannot wait

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Speaker 1: to hear from you again. You are the most important

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Speaker 1: part of this show. And you might be saying, yes,

939
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Speaker 1: you tell me that all the time every Thursday, But

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Speaker 1: how the hell do I talk to you? Well, we're

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Speaker 1: going to give you the answer. If you want to

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