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Speaker 4: Well, good morning, everybody.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Girls Talkboys Talk presented by Jigsaw, the preferred

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Speaker 4: For miss Nicole today, who is not with us.

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Speaker 5: Chris ain't typically our producer. He don't want to do.

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Speaker 5: Awesome? And thanks to Nicole.

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Speaker 7: Nicole's actually doing character playbook today, so that's why she's

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Speaker 7: not doing this. So if she's with Aalen Brooks and

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Speaker 7: Katie Goanna from The Cowboys Cheerleader, so we appreciate her

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Speaker 7: doing that, but we'll miss her. But thanks for doing this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, host of course, of course, of course.

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Speaker 3: I just hope you guys can really brace yourselves for

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Speaker 3: the puns that I have for this episode.

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Speaker 6: I think I would have been better today. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: There's some self service.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna state the obviice.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, their phone cell phone outages throughout North Texas and

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Speaker 4: So yeah, all right.

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Speaker 3: You know, ironically, we were gonna try to open up

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Speaker 4: We probably won't do that.

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Speaker 8: Maybe we'll push that to next week, so somethingay.

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Speaker 4: Forward to for a whole week.

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Speaker 3: You guys can like sit there and be like I

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Speaker 3: can call on the girls stuff boys talk next week. Yes,

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Speaker 3: all right, speaking of a whole week, it has passed by,

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Speaker 3: and we said that we would keep you guys updated

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Speaker 3: on the latest coaching hires in this new Mike Zimmer

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Speaker 4: And so some new hires I.

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Speaker 3: Want to go of them one by one, kind of

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Speaker 4: About them and discuss it.

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Speaker 3: So let's get into it, starting with Jeff Zanina. He

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Speaker 3: comes from the Commanders as a defensive line coach. He

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Speaker 8: As we know who went to Seattle as their new DC.

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Speaker 3: Christy, you had some insight about Jeff as a former

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Speaker 7: What do you know about him, Well, seventeen years in

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Speaker 7: know we're going to talk more about Greg Gallis in

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Speaker 7: just a moment. But Greg gallis a former Cowboy first

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Speaker 7: round pick from nineteen ninety eight. Is well, he's never

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Speaker 7: But Jeff and Greg and coaching the defensive line this year.

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Speaker 7: Greg is the assistant defensive line coach to Jeff. That's

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Speaker 7: thirty one years of NFL playing experience that they'll be

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Speaker 7: Jeff most recently had been with the Commanders, so he

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Speaker 7: So he certainly has the bona fides right from a

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Speaker 6: and it is valuable because I liken it to you

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Speaker 7: That but also the you know, I mentioned the longevity

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Speaker 7: Jeff was a seventh round pick of the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 5: But that's a lot of longevity.

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Speaker 7: And so it's different when you have guys coming in

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Speaker 3: And I also like that too, because you talk about

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Speaker 4: A Dallas cowboy, which is so much different. As we've

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Speaker 3: It's different than being just an NFL player because you're

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Speaker 3: So adding a coach that can kind of relate to that,

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Speaker 3: You mentioned Greg Alice also hired as an assistant defensive

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Speaker 4: Christy, you brought up having some memories obviously with Greg.

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Speaker 7: When Greg was here, he came in and it was

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Speaker 7: Greg got moved from defensive end to outside linebacker, and so,

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Speaker 7: you know, I think that with that kind of hybrid

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Speaker 3: Very sweet, very sweet. I want to keep this train rolling.

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Speaker 3: There's a couple more hires. Paul Gunther another one as

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Speaker 3: know this was a big hire everybody was really waiting

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Speaker 3: And so getting somebody who can come in and patch

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Speaker 4: When looking at.

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Speaker 3: His background, he's worked with Washington, the Bengals for quite

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Speaker 3: thought was very interesting is he's worked with defensive backs, linebackers.

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Speaker 3: He's been a defensive coordinator, but also he's worked within

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Speaker 3: I guess importance of that aspect of the game as well,

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Speaker 3: even though that's not his perspective or his retrospective room,

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Speaker 3: it's so important. So excited to see what he can

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Speaker 7: Yeah. And also when you mentioned the Bengals and the Vikings,

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Speaker 7: the important part about that is is Zimmer he worked

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Speaker 6: Yes, so Steve Shimpko, he was the Boston College offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 6: He's been doing that for quite a while. Well for

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Speaker 5: Around, right, Yeah, the past two years he was coordinator.

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Speaker 6: Will is it herring here?

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Speaker 3: Yea?

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Speaker 5: And so Will left for Carolina.

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Speaker 6: So he's filling in here. But I was immediately excited

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Speaker 4: I was like, listen all.

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Speaker 6: This defensive coordinator stuff and nice, but baby, can you

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Speaker 5: You know how you make your defense.

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Speaker 7: It's better you keep them on the sideline and you

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Speaker 6: Very important and I'm sure, yeah, and I'm sure that

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Speaker 7: So the number of runs that you mentioned for Boston College,

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Speaker 6: That's something that Christian mentioned to me. He said, he said, yeah,

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Speaker 6: It probably is the same in college because to your point, Christy,

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Speaker 7: Will and think of where they're playing Boston College and

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Speaker 7: it's cold, and.

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Speaker 5: The other thing is so most of Steve's.

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Speaker 7: Yes, so again it goes back to familiarity. And you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I also think Mike McCarthy does a really good job

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Speaker 4: But you mentioned the run game.

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Speaker 8: Well, tag, you're a franchise tag.

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Speaker 3: of starts over with this franchise tag date that is

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Speaker 4: So teams can begin.

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Speaker 5: That literally Tuesday this week.

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Speaker 3: So this is a designation that a team may apply

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Speaker 4: Wow, I don't know what I was typing when I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, once that date passes, pretty much you have to

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Speaker 4: And there's that.

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Speaker 3: So obviously last year we know that Tony Pollard was

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Speaker 3: this year because a team cannopt not to use it?

443
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Speaker 5: Exactly? Do so exactly.

444
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Speaker 7: In fact, the franchise tag started in the league in

445
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Speaker 7: nineteen ninety three, but the Cowboys didn't use it for

446
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 7: the first time until two thousand and two with Flozell Adams,

447
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 7: and they've used it eleven times in their history. So

448
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 7: since nineteen ninety three, the Cowboys have used it only

449
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Speaker 7: eleven times. You mentioned Tony Pollard last year. The two

450
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 7: previous years before that they used it on Dak Prescott.

451
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 7: DeMarcus Lawrence had it back to back seasons. And there

452
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 7: are pros and cons. The pros are for the owners

453
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Speaker 7: in the league. What it does is it keeps the

454
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Speaker 7: top top top free agents possibly off the market. Okay,

455
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 7: So in the pros are you get once you're tagged,

456
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Speaker 7: if you decide as a player, I'm tagged and if

457
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 7: I sign it, you don't have to sign it. But

458
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 7: if you sign it, you are guaranteed a certain amount

459
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Speaker 7: of money. So if you are franchise tagged, your salary

460
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Speaker 7: it's going to be a base salary. There's not going

461
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Speaker 7: to be bonuses. It's a one year deal, base salary guaranteed.

462
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Speaker 7: It's the average of the top five salaries at that

463
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Speaker 7: position in the NFL. So the franchise tag for a

464
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 7: quarterback and twenty twenty four thirty six point three million dollars,

465
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Speaker 7: because we know quarterbacks are paid the most, and so

466
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Speaker 7: that's the average of the top five for twenty twenty four.

467
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Speaker 7: The second highest paid position linebacker, but in a lot

468
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Speaker 7: of cases not really traditional linebacker. You know, think of

469
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Speaker 7: the linebackers who are pass rushers. Right, So that's twenty

470
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 7: two point seven million dollars. A defensive tackle surprisingly is

471
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 7: third overall twenty point nine million dollars. You go all

472
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Speaker 7: the way down to special teams like a kicker and

473
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Speaker 7: a punter, that would be a five point to seven

474
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Speaker 7: million dollars. So the Cowboys, I don't expect them to

475
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Speaker 7: use it this year, but AI should I know that

476
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Speaker 7: you're very aware that players really hate the franchise tag. Yeah,

477
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Speaker 7: why would they hate the franchise tag because.

478
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Speaker 1: They don't do nothing good for them.

479
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Speaker 4: It's this game.

480
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Speaker 6: Everything's like another Game's not promised, you know what I'm saying.

481
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Speaker 6: And that's one thing that I think a lot of

482
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Speaker 6: players fear is few injury happens. Things happen, and when

483
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Speaker 6: you sacrifice how you do to take care of your

484
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Speaker 6: family and stuff. Now, in some instances it can be

485
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Speaker 6: I remember when Tony Poller got his franchise tag. I'm

486
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Speaker 6: sure it's not ideal, but what the running back market

487
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Speaker 6: was last offseason.

488
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Speaker 5: Yeah, bricked in his favor.

489
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Speaker 6: It worked in his favor in that regards of some

490
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Speaker 6: sometimes you have those, but you know, like we like

491
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Speaker 6: we talked about. I just I think that a lot

492
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Speaker 6: of players are looking for longevity, they're looking for stability.

493
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Speaker 6: And I mean, you on a one year contract basically,

494
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Speaker 6: that's a tough world to be in. And you're betting

495
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Speaker 6: on yourself and you're betting on staying healthy.

496
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're kept off the markets. You are kept

497
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Speaker 5: off the market.

498
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Speaker 7: You don't get to go out, yeah and sell your

499
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Speaker 7: wares to other teams. But just I think one of

500
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Speaker 7: the key things about the franchise tag is once you're tagged,

501
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Speaker 7: you're it and you can sign it. You have until

502
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Speaker 7: mid July to sign it and to come up with

503
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Speaker 7: a contract extension. So basically what an NFL team is saying,

504
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 7: tag your it. I basically have you under control until July,

505
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 7: and if you sign it, it's your one year deal.

506
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Speaker 7: It's guaranteed based salary average of the top five. But

507
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 7: we have until mid July to work out a long

508
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 7: term deal. And that is most often what happens. So

509
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 7: it didn't happen for Tony Pollard last year, but it

510
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 7: happened for Dak Prescott. It happened for DeMarcus Lawrence. I

511
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 7: have some notes here.

512
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Speaker 5: It also happened des Bryant. He was tagged. He was tagged.

513
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Speaker 5: He wasn't. This is back in twenty fifteen. He was tagged.

514
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Speaker 7: He didn't like it at all. He skipped the off

515
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 7: season workouts. But then Dez and the Jones family came

516
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 7: up with the long term deal, five year, seventy million dollars.

517
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 7: So that was the July fifteenth deadline. They beat it

518
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Speaker 7: that year and Ken Hamlin some longtime Cowboy fans remember

519
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 7: Ken Hamlin, the safety, and he had signed a thirty

520
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 7: nine million dollar deal back when he was tagged in

521
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Speaker 7: two thousand and eight, so certainly DeMarcus Lawrence when he

522
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 7: got that one hundred and five million dollar extension, that

523
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 7: was a deal that was done before the deadline. That

524
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Speaker 7: was the second year that he had been tagged.

525
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Speaker 3: So let's look at the Cowboys free agents, uh, unrestricted

526
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: free agents, I should say, because that's a key part

527
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 3: of this, and I'm gonna go through them. And let's

528
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: say you have to pick one to possibly give this

529
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 3: franchise tag too.

530
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 4: Okay, you have to pick one.

531
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Speaker 3: Uh, And again we already discussed that it's most likely

532
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 3: the Cowboys don't use it, but if they had to

533
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 3: pick one, let's play with that scenario. Here you have

534
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: Tyrone Smith, Tony Pollard, Stefan Gilmour, Dorance Armstrong, Jron Curse,

535
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis, Dante Fowler, Noah Igbinoghany, Jonathan Hankins, Trent sag Chuma, Edoga,

536
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: Neville Gallimore, and Tyler Beattish.

537
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 4: Ladies, are you sho having to turn to you? Who

538
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 4: gets your tag?

539
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 8: And why?

540
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 4: Sure?

541
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: I'm well, but you also have to keep in mind

542
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 3: the possible hits on the salary cap.

543
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna pull up the prices once you.

544
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: Have your person, and we're going to see what kind

545
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: of hit that takes on the salary cap considering all else,

546
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 3: the contracts that need to be addressed in the off season,

547
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: and the hit that could take on the salary cap

548
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 3: based on whatever position.

549
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 4: You pick for your player. Christy, do you have your guys.

550
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Speaker 7: I'm not tagging anybody because I think that I can

551
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 7: get I can get each of these guys. If I

552
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 7: want to resign them, it's going to be less than

553
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 7: the tag, because remember the tag is and there's also

554
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 7: the franchise tag and the transition tag. So what franchise

555
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 7: tag means that I own control, nobody else can make

556
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,479
Speaker 7: a deal or like that it's done a transition tag,

557
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 7: it's possible that they can still make a deal with

558
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 7: another team, and if they do, then I get two

559
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 7: first round draft picks from that team. So that hardly

560
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 7: I don't know. I can't remember anybody that's moved off

561
00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 7: the transition tag. But the transition tag is less in

562
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 7: the franchise tag, so you're saving some money. But I

563
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 7: don't even think that i'd use the transition tag on

564
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 7: any of my guys.

565
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 6: Okay, as I was I was asking because I was

566
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Speaker 6: feeling the same way as I mean, if you if

567
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 6: you get the quarterback extended, you're going to be able

568
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 6: to do a lot more. From a financial standpoint, I

569
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 6: wouldn't be comfortable using it. I mean, I can't sit

570
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 6: a princisent I don't want. I don't like the franchise tag.

571
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 6: So I'm not going to sit an act like I

572
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 6: want to tap to anybody at what was.

573
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Speaker 7: The tag for?

574
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Speaker 5: What's the thinking for the cornerback?

575
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 7: You're thinking for Gilmour or Lewis for a cornerback, it's

576
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 7: eighteen point seven million dollars.

577
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 5: You can get both those guys for life. You could

578
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 5: combine probably.

579
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 7: Those guys and get But I think that the key

580
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 7: is to look around the league and think of these

581
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 7: key free agents. Obviously someone who's going to get franchised.

582
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 7: They are good players who are important to that team.

583
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 7: And so you look at the defensive tackles that are

584
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 7: under consideration. I would love to have Matt a bk

585
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 7: justin from Baltimore, but he's probably going to get franchise tagged.

586
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 7: Christian Wilkins going from that.

587
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, So what.

588
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 7: You're doing is you're keeping your top players out of

589
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 7: free agency by tagging them. So Chris Jones with Kansas City,

590
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 7: if they don't do a long term deal, they could

591
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 7: you know, they have until March fifth to tag.

592
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 5: Him, Matt A. Bk Christian Wilkins.

593
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 7: You know if you look at oh edge rushers Brian

594
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 7: Burns for Carolina, Oh yeah, oh my gosh, I mean

595
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 7: Josh Allen, not the quarterback for Buffalo, but the pass

596
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 7: rushing linebacker for Jacksonville seventeen and a half sacks. So

597
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 7: they if Jacksonville can't work out a long term deal

598
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 7: and they want to tag Josh Allen or Carolina Brian Barnes,

599
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 7: one of the top young players in the league, only

600
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 7: twenty five years old.

601
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, it looks so good with a star

602
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 5: on his helmet.

603
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 7: But it's gonna it's gonna cost twenty two point seven

604
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 7: million dollars.

605
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 6: So what happens when I mean not the sound redundant,

606
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 6: but yeah, can a player refuse.

607
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 7: You cannot sign it. You can say I am not

608
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 7: signing it. That's what happened with Le'Veon Bell for Pittsburgh.

609
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 7: He says, I'm not playing for this, so you don't

610
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 7: sign it and guess what, you don't play that year

611
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 7: because your rights are controlled for that season by the team.

612
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 5: Now, the team.

613
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 7: Could the team could cut you. Yeah, but then but

614
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 7: you're not going to do that because then they'll go

615
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 7: play for somebody else. So you have the choice. You

616
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 7: have the choice you don't.

617
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 4: Play since to.

618
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Speaker 3: Basically just hold that contract so that way they can't.

619
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Speaker 5: Why they do it, that's why they do it. It's

620
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 5: really a bad deal.

621
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Speaker 6: Another reality of it is sitting in and I'm just

622
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 6: not gonna comment.

623
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but it is.

624
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Speaker 3: I think you know what's so interesting is going back

625
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: to last year when this was a conversation, I think

626
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: it was pretty predictable that Tony Pollard was.

627
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 4: Going to get that tag.

628
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: But you look at it now and really the list

629
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Speaker 3: of free agents, because that's obviously a key part of this,

630
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: Like you guys mentioned already, and I also don't want

631
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: to sound redundant, but a lot of these guys you

632
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: can get for cheaper deals than the value of the tag.

633
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: But also how many of these.

634
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 3: Guys and you know, this could be a conversation for

635
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: next week as well.

636
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 4: We're actually impact players.

637
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 5: Talk about it. Oh oh for the Cowboys.

638
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 4: Or the Cowboys, Gilmore, Gilmore and Lewis.

639
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 5: I don't want to lose them, but I don't want

640
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 5: to use them at all.

641
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 7: I want them back, but not for eighteen point eight

642
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 7: million dollars per season.

643
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: But you could also do a long term deal.

644
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 7: Shit, that absolutely, and that's absolutely everybody gets a litterly right.

645
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: But for sure, I think the first domino effect, and

646
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: you mentioned this last week, is you need to kind

647
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: of prioritize Dak Prescott's contract first and then let everything

648
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: else faalse.

649
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 5: He's going to make it so much teach here.

650
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, would not love to have the job, as that's

651
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: in the cabin.

652
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 7: You know, Dak was franchised back to back year, so

653
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 7: he played the first year on the tag and then

654
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 7: the second year sign the deal. And when he was

655
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 7: tagged in twenty twenty one, the franchise tag amount thirty

656
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 7: seven point seven million dollars. But before the deadline in July,

657
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 7: you know, during the off season, earlier in the off season,

658
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 7: he signed the four year, one hundred and sixty million

659
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 7: dollars deal.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, we're going to take our last break.

661
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Speaker 3: When we come back, we're going to talk about the

662
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 3: combine a little bit. We got some questions on Twitter

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Speaker 4: Care all right.

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Speaker 3: Scouting Combine it begins next week on Tuesday. Actually, I

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Speaker 3: usually you got to go for the first time last year.

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Speaker 4: Christy. I'm sure you've gone plenty throughout your career.

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Speaker 5: Only once.

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Speaker 4: Oh there you go, comebine. You know that's once more

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Speaker 4: than me.

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Speaker 3: But the really cool thing about this is you really

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Speaker 3: get to start to see all the draft boards come together,

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Speaker 3: things start to really form, and that's your bread and

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Speaker 3: butter when it comes to draft season.

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Speaker 4: So, Aisha, I want to talk about the combine a

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Speaker 4: little bit with you.

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Speaker 3: How does this help you see kind of what value

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Speaker 3: different players can have for certain teams?

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Speaker 4: With what they do with the combine.

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Speaker 6: I mean, so one thing that's really important at the

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Speaker 6: Combine that I found it's very valuable, and I'm sure

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Speaker 6: other I'm sure the scouts and stuff found it valuable

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Speaker 6: is the interviewing and the really get in those one

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Speaker 6: on one times with some of these players and seeing

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Speaker 6: how they are handling, you know, everything that's going on.

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Speaker 6: I don't I can't stress this enough how hard that

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Speaker 6: the combine is for the players and how stressful of

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Speaker 6: an environment it is for them, because it's almost like

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Speaker 6: it's the whole world watching and it's one of the

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Speaker 6: few times or an individual in this sport and that

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Speaker 6: you have to perform as an individual. And I when

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Speaker 6: I was there, I just empathize so much for them

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Speaker 6: in those moments. But it also too, it shows you

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Speaker 6: their preparation, because the thing about the combine is a

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Speaker 6: lot of guys can score well in the combine and

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Speaker 6: then they may not be good players. It does take

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Speaker 6: skill in preparation and time and things. And then the

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Speaker 6: health protocols come out, which is huge when I say

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Speaker 6: the it's what they go through examination wise is some

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Speaker 6: of the most extensive stuff that they.

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Speaker 5: Might see in their career.

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Speaker 6: To be honest, it's it's very in depth, and to

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Speaker 6: your point, it does start putting clarity to some players.

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Speaker 5: There's some guys that you're like, oh, he can play.

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Speaker 6: Like there's a gentleman of Peyton Wilson right now, linebacker

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Speaker 6: and he's fantastic, but he has some injury stuff and

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Speaker 6: people are a little worried is he going to be

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Speaker 6: able to bounce back? Is he gonna He looked fantastic

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Speaker 6: the Senior Bowl. But for these guys, it's also checking boxes. Sure,

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Speaker 6: it's checking boxes. You get the Senior Bowl, you get

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Speaker 6: the Shrine Bowl, they get all they get these few

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Speaker 6: opportunities to just get someone's attention, and so it's I

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Speaker 6: don't know, it's really something to be there and to

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Speaker 6: feel the energy of the room. For the players in particular,

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Speaker 6: I really I empathize, but I understand there's gonna be

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Speaker 6: guys that rise to the moment as well, and it

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Speaker 6: does separate some of the gentlemen as well. So it's

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Speaker 6: a dope thing. I love the combine and I can't

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Speaker 6: wait to see the results after so we can start

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Speaker 6: this really will put clarity to our draft boards. And

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Speaker 6: you're like, oh, okay, he has this health thing.

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Speaker 5: They might make him slide.

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Speaker 6: You'll start being able to start paying things out better

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Speaker 6: after this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's invitation only.

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Speaker 7: So this year three hundred and twenty one players, and

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Speaker 7: some of those didn't come until after these seas. You

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Speaker 7: know that shrine that you mentioned. But I'm so glad

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Speaker 7: that you mentioned the health part of it, because it's

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Speaker 7: really a three part thing. It's the underwear Olympics out

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Speaker 7: there doing the drills on the football field, right, But

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Speaker 7: and then it's the mental part of the interviews with

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Speaker 7: the team and it's basically speed dating.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 7: But the third component in that medical component is crucial

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Speaker 7: because the team send not only scouts, coaches, general manager

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Speaker 7: owners in some cases like Cowboys, but the medical team.

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Speaker 7: And I think the best recent example for the Cowboys

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Speaker 7: is Damone Clark with the that's doctor Cooper, Dan Cooper.

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Speaker 7: The Cowboys had the team Orthopedison, head of the doctors

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Speaker 7: that do the games and are at training camp, and

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Speaker 7: he's the one that found the net condition for Damon Clark.

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Speaker 7: So it can be maker or break, not just from

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Speaker 7: the medical standpoint, but you can talk your way onto

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Speaker 7: a team.

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Speaker 5: You can talk your way off of a team too.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, because they do they That was something that

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Speaker 6: I was new to even last year when we were

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Speaker 6: covering the combine is you started hearing guys like they

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Speaker 6: talk about the big board, and the big board is

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Speaker 6: where they tell a player like, Okay, what are you

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Speaker 6: supposed to do in this situation? What's your job in

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Speaker 6: this coverage? How do you respond to this happening at

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Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage? And if a player can't do that,

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Speaker 6: sometimes it does knock on them, you know, it knocks

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Speaker 6: on some of some of the way scouts look at them.

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Speaker 6: So it's a like I said, this is a high

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Speaker 6: stress environment and it puts a lot of pressure on

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Speaker 6: these guys to perform. Also to Peyton Wilson out of

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Speaker 6: North Carolina State at.

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Speaker 5: North Carolina State.

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Speaker 7: But the one thing from the league perspective, and I

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Speaker 7: think why we all so many people watch it and

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Speaker 7: enjoy it on NFL network, it's one stop shopping. But

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Speaker 7: before Tech Shram and Gil Brandt and the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 7: before they before text went to the Competition Committee and

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Speaker 7: proposed a centralized one. Nineteen eighty two was the first

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Speaker 7: centralized draft as.

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Speaker 5: We know it. Before that, certainly you would have the teams.

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Speaker 7: You know, they would invite players for individual workouts, or

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Speaker 7: they would go to campuses or some scouts and stuff.

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Speaker 7: But until nineteen eighty two, there was not a centralized

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Speaker 7: thing you have. Maybe you've heard of Blessedo. Before that,

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Speaker 7: it was Lesto and what is it Quanta, all these

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Speaker 7: different ones.

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Speaker 5: Where you had groups.

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Speaker 7: Before nineteen eighty two, you had some groups of teams

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Speaker 7: that would combine together for scouting, and then after that

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Speaker 7: just to cut costs basically right, But it still wasn't

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Speaker 7: one stop shopping for all of the teams at one time.

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Speaker 7: But the way that it's set up now and then

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Speaker 7: the first year that it was actually a broadcast and

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Speaker 7: became so popular NFL Network, let's see, gosh, this is

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Speaker 7: their nineteenth combine that NFL Network is doing. And so

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Speaker 7: actually tonight, no, next Tuesday is when they'll have the

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Speaker 7: defensive line and linebackers, and then Friday will be defensive

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Speaker 7: backs and tight ends and then quarterbacks, wide receivers, running

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Speaker 7: backs on March second, and then the offensive line on

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Speaker 7: March stop.

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Speaker 6: It's nothing like seeing those defensive linemen get out there

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Speaker 6: and run AF forty ain't nothing like it.

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Speaker 5: But you know what, some of them are really fast.

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Speaker 6: Now they're athletic, like yeah, now they're now they're running

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Speaker 6: like they have full sprints. I'm I'm so ready for

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Speaker 6: I'm so ready, y'all.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what I'm ready for is next week.

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Speaker 3: We can talk all about it, because yes, on Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: so you can kind of come back and reconvene.

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Speaker 4: But before we go, we got a couple questions on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: And I always put this out and sometimes we just

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Speaker 3: don't have time to get to the questions. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to do that to y'all today, So I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: ask you one question. I'm gonna ask you one question

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Speaker 3: and then that's how we'll do it. Let's keep it

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Speaker 3: short and sweet.

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Speaker 4: Because technically we only have a minute left, Okay. J

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Speaker 4: Tuck our guy, J Tuck.

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Speaker 8: Shout out to J Tuck.

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Speaker 3: We love J Tuck asked on Twitter what type of

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Speaker 3: players should we be looking at in free agency slash

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Speaker 3: draft to fit coach zimmers defense?

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Speaker 6: Aisha shoot, whether it's a DT or linebacker. I think

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Speaker 6: you should be looking for someone that has command in

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Speaker 6: the huddle. I think you should be looking for someone

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Speaker 6: that is hair on fire, higher motor, very active, and

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Speaker 6: communication skills, leadership skills, those things. I'm definitely hoping for

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Speaker 6: a player on the interior of this defense that has

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Speaker 6: been there before, maybe has some experience, but also to

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Speaker 6: walk it like he talks it. I think it'll be

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Speaker 6: important moving forward.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that, Christy.

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Speaker 3: Your question comes from Michael Any cool stories of running

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Speaker 3: into retired cowboys at the start.

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Speaker 7: Oh jeez, all the time, once or twice a week,

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Speaker 7: even in the off season. Favorite thing I did last

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Speaker 7: year was with Emmett Emmett and CD Lamb and it was.

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Speaker 7: and so. But Darren Woodson works in the building and

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Speaker 7: that's the great thing about this job is we we

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Speaker 7: run into former players all the time and absolutely love

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Speaker 7: that part of it.

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Speaker 4: Very very cool. All right, well, ladies, thank you so

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Speaker 4: much for that.

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Speaker 3: Our time has come to an end today. We'll be back,

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Speaker 3: same time, same place next Thursday. We'll have the combine

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Speaker 3: to talk about whatever news comes up. Will make sure

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Speaker 3: to talk about. Thank you Christy, thank you, I should

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Speaker 3: thank you Chris in the back for.

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Speaker 5: Manning the show today.

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Speaker 3: If you will, you can do it without you, so

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Speaker 3: we appreciate you. We appreciate everybody who watches.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: This has been Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw

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Speaker 3: that prefer dating partner the Dallas Cowboys.

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