1 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four is in the rearview mirror now when 2 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: you just look back on that in totality and people 3 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: ask you, hey, how twenty twenty four go for you? 4 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: Like they were in a freeze chamber and they didn't 5 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: watch anything last year? How did twenty twenty four sit 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: with you? 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: It sat with me, I would say, along the lines 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 2: of tons of progress and got right to a point 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: where had a chance to really get over the hump 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: and at the end of disappointing ending because we were basically. 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: A drive a short of qualifying. 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: For the AEC Championship Game and getting into the playoffs. 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: That being said, I can't ignore the progress part because 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: Miam has come a long way in these last three 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: years and it's led to another great class and it 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: propels us into the future. 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: But I would sum it. 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: Up like that, do you ever find yourself having a balance? 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a driven type a kind of person, 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: the success is great, but you tend to focus on 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: what's not right and you want to get what's not 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: right fixed. 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: But then at the. 24 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: Same time, okay, you can do that behind the scenes, 25 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: but when you're front facing, when you're at a press conference, 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: or when you're talking like this, you got to make 27 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: sure that you're acknowledging, Hey, we went five wins, seven wins, 28 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: ten wins. That's linear progression. That's about as clear cut 29 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: as it gets. We're winning double digit games, which we 30 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: haven't done around here, at least collectively, for a long time. 31 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean, do you do you kind of find yourself 32 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: having to say, hey, you know, there's still a lot 33 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: to scrutinize, but it's okay for about two nanoseconds to hey, 34 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: good job, we're better than we were two years ago. 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I approach every single press conference like a 36 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: team meeting, like almost like a PTA meeting, right, parents 37 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: Teachers Association meeting, because you want clarity and transparency for 38 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: everyone in the organization and the family's involved as well. 39 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: And how do you do that. 40 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: You acknowledge the facts, you set goals and plans for 41 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: the future, but you make sure that everyone is very 42 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: very aware and understands exactly where we are, where we 43 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: plan to go, what's going to be tolerated, it's not 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: going to be tolerated. So I think if you use 45 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 2: that approach all the time, everybody is hearing the same 46 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: message and gives you. 47 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: It gives your best. 48 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: Chance to stay within one culture and not deviate towards 49 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: like subcultures and narratives. 50 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: When you're talking to guys that you're possibly going to 51 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: get out of the portal, you don't have long extended 52 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: relationships with them a lot of times, and so you're 53 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: having to expedite that recruiting process. You're getting to know 54 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: guys in an expedited timeframe when you're talking about that 55 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: stuff non negotiables. Here's what is and isn't tolerated here, 56 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: Like it's a competitive environment. You're trying to get them 57 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: that the clock's ticking. How do you make sure also 58 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: we've delivered that we've disseminated that message. They check those 59 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: boxes as well. 60 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 2: I think our players play a big role in that 61 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: particular area because they let them know exactly what's up. 62 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: And I still think recruits and prospects they get more 63 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: out of talking to your players and actually speaking with 64 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: the coaches. And Look, I've never been involved in speed dating, 65 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: but this has got to feel like what speed dating 66 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: is like. You've got to get everything on the table, 67 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: you know, it's got to be a mutual agreement. You've 68 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: got to see things a certain way, and you've got 69 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: to prepare to go to work together. It's got to 70 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: be a partnership as opposed to a verbal commitment, a 71 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: pledge sort of speak. And like you said, it's scrunched 72 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: and the only way to find out is when things 73 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: start happening live. 74 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: But you do do a ton of research. 75 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: You try to get with people that you really trust 76 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: and know something about that particular person, and you go 77 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: directly and hard at the questions and the things that 78 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: you cannot compromise. 79 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: See where they sit at the end of the visit. 80 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't ask about the portal without asking 81 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: about Carson Beck. You guys this time last year, I'm 82 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: walking the halls and you're telling me cam Man everything 83 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: we hoped he would be. And then some way do 84 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: you see him this fall? Well, he played at a 85 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: Heisman caliber level all year for you guys last year. 86 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: So then you go get Carson back, probably a much 87 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: different personality type than cam Ward, but a guy you're 88 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: once again hoping can come in and take that job 89 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: by the throat and you know, do what you do 90 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: during the season. But there's also the health piece of 91 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: it with him coming off injury. So as much as 92 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: you can tell as public le user, where's he at 93 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: right now and what's the you know, sort of meshing 94 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: of him with this program been like. 95 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: Well, the first part that's really encouraging for us. He's 96 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: almost at one hundred percent and I'm talking about maybe 97 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 2: a week away from being there. I mean, he's been 98 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: thrown four weeks now. He joins our team on Sunday 99 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: and everything is full throttle. There is no limitations for him, 100 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 2: and he looks great and in terms of you know, 101 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: he is different than cam personality wise, but not from 102 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: a drive and determination side, And I think that really 103 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: hit us strong and that very short process with Carson. 104 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: His knowledge of the game speaks very loudly of a 105 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: guy that has been prepping his entire life. And I 106 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 2: also think where we brought in a person that has 107 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 2: a lot to prove, but more in the sense of winning, 108 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: more in the sense of team than anything else. Like, 109 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: I think he really understands clearly after what he's been 110 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: through in this college football journey, what's important, right and 111 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: what's important is it relates to the next level. Because 112 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: Cam's a great example. Everyone knew cam Ward could throw 113 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: the football well, everyone knew he was accurate, he could improvise, 114 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: make plays. But people want to see cam Ward help 115 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: change the trajectory of a program and win right and 116 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: not be concerned with actually and Cam is not cam 117 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: could care, couldn't care any less about an award, I 118 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: mean a presentation. I mean it's obvious in the draft, 119 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: like he just want to hear his name, what times 120 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 2: of plane leading, when do I land in Tennessee? 121 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: And when do I get the playbook? You know? 122 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: And along those lines, there's a ton of some letters 123 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: with him and Carson and both of their knowledge of 124 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 2: the game, the knowledge of the run game, their knowledge 125 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: of the protections involved in every single concept that we have. 126 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,119 Speaker 2: That has me, as a former offensive line coach, really 127 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: fired up. And then the reasoning behind his move to Miami. 128 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 2: So he wants to be pushed. He's not going to 129 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: be disappointed. He'll get plenty of that here and he's 130 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: going to be surrounded by guys that are like minded, 131 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: that want. 132 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: To be elite at what they do, and that they 133 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: want to wudn't. 134 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: Be I think what you were talking about, there's sort 135 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: of the it's like the DNA of a transfer. It's 136 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: the behind the scenes, the making of the sausage, so 137 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: to speak, of the way that happens. But the public 138 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 1: just gets to see the headline Carson Beck's going to Miami. 139 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: But you get to be a part of every step 140 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: of the way, beginning to finish. What is it like 141 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 1: when it first becomes a parent. Hey, there's mutual interest 142 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: here in those first conversations happen. What are you talking about? 143 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: And I assume on his side we were sitting right 144 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: next to you, I could ask him, what are you 145 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: trying to learn from them? What's he trying to learn 146 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: from you? 147 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: Like? 148 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: What are those early initiation initiated conversations. 149 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: Like, I mean the very first one is can we 150 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: actually have a conversation? I mean, because if we can't 151 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: even connect on a very simple, superficial basis, might be 152 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: hard to connect on a deeper level, right and go 153 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: from there. So everything at first is getting to know somebody. 154 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you can't trust or respect someone unless you 155 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: know them, and you can't really know them unless you 156 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: invest time in them. That was a really small window, 157 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: you know, really really short, really small. The people that 158 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: I know really well and that I have enough trust 159 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: in spoke the world of him as a person, as 160 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: a competitor, as a player. You know, a team guy 161 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: that's willing to do whatever it takes for a team 162 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: to win. And so I think his natural like immersion 163 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: into the locker room after a Heisman candidate just left, 164 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: was something that you know, you have to keep. 165 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: Okay, let me see how this is going to look. 166 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: Right, because you had a really popular guy, I was 167 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: really outspoken, and all of a sudden, you know, a couple, 168 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: you know, a week process has culminated in the signing 169 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: of a player that's going to be under a lot 170 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: of scrutiny. And it didn't take long for him to 171 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: for his teammates to realize, this is a dude. This 172 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: guy's not here to bs to mess around. This guy's 173 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: here to win, and he's a team guy. And that's 174 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: what we get. That's the vibe that we feel with 175 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: Carson the rest of his teammates. 176 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: You guys made a change a defensive coordinator, and it 177 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: it just reminds me how conflicted I felt watching you 178 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: guys last year. I'm watching Cam Moore do his thing. 179 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm watching you guys score thirty five, forty forty five 180 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: points every week but I'm also saying they better score 181 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: thirty five or forty or forty five because it's needed 182 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: because you're having trouble stopping the other team. So that's 183 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: the other half of this thing where you brought in 184 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: Heatherman from Minnesota, And like, I'm interested because I haven't 185 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: asked until now intentionally, what did you see in him? 186 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: And what did you identify before you went and made 187 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: the higher What did you identify about defense here that 188 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: needed to change aside from just well we need to 189 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: play better, Like, how did you drill down? 190 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 3: What were the specifics? No, that's a great question. 191 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: I mean we lost our way last year because we 192 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: opened the season playing really good defense. We communicated well, organized, 193 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: lined up well. We suffered a couple injuries in an 194 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: area where we weren't really deep, but that shouldn't be 195 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: the result. After losing a couple of guys, we lost 196 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: our way. That's what happened, and it came in the 197 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: form of communication, alignment and assignment, which the simplicity of 198 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: that makes you play fast. So we went from playing 199 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: fast and physical to being uncertain and losing a step 200 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: and playing slow and looking confused. And it was painful 201 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: because that's a generational offense. I mean, that was made 202 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: for TV type of stuff right there. And at the 203 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: very end, you know, again we're there. 204 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: Okay, that might as. 205 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: Well be this there, you're not there, and we recognize that. 206 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:06,599 Speaker 2: So we recruited this team to be a four down 207 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: aggressive defense. 208 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: Okay. 209 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: And in coach Heatherman, actually, you know, and I hate 210 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 2: to compare, people just saw a lot of what Miami 211 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: saw and Greg Ciano back in ninety eight ninety nine, 212 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: which was a guy who is not only a high 213 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: level of knowledge, level of expertise, but a system that 214 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 2: kicks ass. You know, a system that's very aggressive, that 215 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: communicates well, that's very sound, that gives you very complicated 216 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 2: looks on the back end, that disguise things well on 217 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: in the back end, and can play you in base 218 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: can play you with movement, can bring pressure, can simulate 219 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: those pressures, and still create situations for the offense that 220 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: are much more difficult. 221 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: I think. 222 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 2: Last year we were very easy to figure out, especially 223 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: after a Game three in Game four. 224 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: I also love the fact that coach. 225 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: Heatherman is a tough ass son of a gun, and 226 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: he's exactly what we need. 227 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes let's say things don't go the way you want 228 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: it to during the season. Sometimes you'll get to December 229 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: and a guy will tell you, man, we kind of 230 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: we had a good idea it was headed that way 231 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: in spring and then August. Other times you'll have a 232 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: guy say, you know, I didn't really think it was 233 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: going to be that bad. Like this or this or 234 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: this kind of surprised me. Defense for you guys last year, 235 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: which side of that fence did you fall on? 236 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: Oh? 237 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone envisioned it, envisioned it going, you 238 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: know that sideways. You know now when we lost, you know, 239 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: Demori got hurt, Jatus was playing his best football. Those 240 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: were two big, physical, playing man of man ball, you 241 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: know back there on the back end. And when they 242 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: got when they were nicked up, when they were injured, 243 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: it it really, it really became a slippery slope. It 244 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: went downhill fast. But I still don't think that it 245 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: shouldn't have been, you know, to the level it got to. 246 00:11:58,760 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: Now. 247 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: Again, I don't one thing I don't want to do. 248 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to like say, hey, this coordinator or 249 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: that coach or that coach. You know, at the end 250 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: of the day, man, you went together you lose together, 251 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 2: and I always look at myself and say, you know what, 252 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: I maybe should have done this for the coordinator, or 253 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: maybe should have brought them another assistant, maybe should have 254 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: helped them change something, you know. But one thing for sure, 255 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: when there's a chance to fix it, you fix it. 256 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: I didn't think during the year was the time. 257 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: I don't think during the year trying to fix it 258 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: that we had enough answers to make a complete change 259 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: in overhaul. But it certainly it was nowhere near standard it. 260 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 2: You know, it's it affected us in a big time 261 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: negative way. So a change had to be made and 262 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: we move forward. 263 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: You and I are talking right now. It's May twenty 264 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: twenty five. Recruiting's pretty hot right now. It's not the 265 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: time of year where we can mention specific names, but 266 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: in a general sense, things have gone really well for 267 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: you the past twenty four forty eight hours. And people 268 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: at home, they check recruiting rankings, they watch on National 269 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: Signing Day. But you got to do it year round, 270 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: and you got to immerse yourself in it. Y're around. 271 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: You've always been known as being a guy who does that. 272 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: So let's say you recruit me. It's you and about 273 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: three other major programs, Neck and Neck. I got my 274 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: announcement coming up at noon Eastern time. You're making calls, 275 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: You're doing all you can right up until the finish line. 276 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: But what is the energy, like, what are you feeling 277 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: on the inside when the clock ticks down and a 278 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: guy is about to make the announcement. Because fans know 279 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: how they feel at home, how do you feel as 280 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: a head coach? 281 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: Find a way? 282 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 2: Find a way and the announcement is I guess the 283 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: conclusion of the first and second quarter and then the 284 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: rest of the calendar year until signing days, halftime, third 285 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: fourth quarter and overtime. 286 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: You know, get it done. 287 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: I just go compete, do all the things that the 288 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: mentors that I played for, coach I played for taught 289 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 2: me to do. Just go and don't settle and find 290 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: a way to get it done. So but also again, 291 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 2: be genuine, I mean, be passionate, intense, in a genuine manner. 292 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 2: Don't be a don't go to the negative route. 293 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 3: You know that stuff. 294 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: I don't think that stuff's ever worked maybe for some people, 295 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. But just go, man, you know it's 296 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: that simple. 297 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 3: Just go. 298 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: You find throughout history like when you've been around high 299 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: level recruiting staffs, when you've put together a high level 300 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: recruiting staff, there's always the implication out there. Anytime a 301 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: program would land a kid, the rival fans of the 302 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: other programs are going to either try and downplay it, 303 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: or well we'll see it come signing day, or well 304 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: they bought the kid, or it's everything, but well they 305 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: just out recruited us. You can hear that occasionally. It 306 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: never really affect how you go about your business. But 307 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: do you sometimes hear the outside noise or outside opinion 308 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: on how a recruitment went, and you're on the inside, 309 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: you know how it went, and just kind. 310 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: Of say, all right, does it? 311 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: At least it would make me laugh every now and 312 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: then when I listened to it. 313 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I could imagine some of the things that 314 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: are set out there. I just I don't know what 315 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: value that type of noise or people really have. Actually, 316 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: I guess the value lies in the fact that you 317 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: can take your son, you can take a prospect and 318 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: say you see all that noise and trash. There's an 319 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: example of what's irrelevant in life and the processes of 320 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: hard work. 321 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: That's maybe the only value to it. 322 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: And I think you could also take a parent and say, look, 323 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: your son is a high profile guy. 324 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: This is great practice because. 325 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: When you're playing in college and you miss a tackle 326 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: or you throw a bad pass, or when you're onto 327 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: the NFL and you enter a certain city and I mean, 328 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: they're going to throw tomato cans at you, you know, 329 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: at every stop they can, Like you have to get 330 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: used to what comes with sports, right, but I guess 331 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: that would be the only value practice for it in 332 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: the future, and or just point out what's irrelevant. 333 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: I think. 334 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you deal with it as a head coach. 335 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: High level players deal with it, just the immense amount 336 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: of focus, attention, therefore pressure, therefore criticism when you don't 337 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: do a good job. But there's a there's like a 338 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: protectionist mentality that society sometimes takes. Let's put an umbrella 339 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: over everyone. We don't want anyone to deal with anything. 340 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: And you're preaching the exact opposite message there of not 341 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: only is it inevitable that it is going to happen, 342 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: but exposing yourself to it every now and then it 343 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: is probably not the worst thing in the world, because 344 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: I mean, those elbows are rougher than the forearm for 345 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: a reason they've just dealt with more. 346 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: I just. 347 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you ask, so why do you do this? 348 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: You know, and a million things could come out. Some 349 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: people play for their families, some for the love of 350 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: the game. I have to love football aside from you know, 351 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: my family and faith more than anything. 352 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: In the world. You know, couldn't live without it. 353 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: And I think if anyone ever mentioned why I do 354 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: it because of all this noise and attention, if that 355 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: answer comes out, they got to get out and this 356 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: is this is not for them. I just again, I 357 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: just I've never you know, I'm being very honest. I 358 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: just never once have thought of that as any part 359 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: of any equation. 360 00:16:59,360 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: Man. 361 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: Just I mean, I had awesome parents, like insane grinders, 362 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: like kick your ass at every opportunity until you got 363 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: the job done. And if you didn't, God help you, 364 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 2: it's going to be a reckoning. So that's that's what 365 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: we do in my household. And I think it's my 366 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: obligation to you know, besides other lessons. Is such a 367 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: valuable lesson is to teach all these guys the value 368 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 2: of hard work, you know, because hard work and being 369 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: a great human being, that combination is just about undefeated, 370 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: you know in life, you know, and and it carries 371 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 2: over to football as well. So we're pretty simple, man, 372 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: We don't we don't overcomplicate things. 373 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: When you have a guy who walks in and you 374 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: recruited him because he's got all the physical and intangibles 375 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: that you want, but he hasn't had that hard work 376 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: part ingrained in him since birth. And there may be 377 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: they maybe some other non negotiables that you think are 378 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: in him that you could pull out, but he's not 379 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: exhibiting them right away as a true freshman. How many times, 380 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: just along the course of your career have you seen 381 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: a guy where you're stirring with him, but you're also 382 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: I'm going to have a little patience because I trust 383 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: that one day he'll get there, and then he finally 384 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: gets there. 385 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: You have to keep that in mind. You know, these coaches, 386 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: I'm always busting their chops. They're like those kids at Christmas. 387 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: They want those boxes that say no assembly required, right, 388 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: just roll them out there, and he's going to be 389 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 2: an All American. 390 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 3: And that's not coaching. 391 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: If that was coaching, there's no need for us take 392 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 2: away the funny shorts and the whistles get out. 393 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: You know, they can handle it themselves. That's the beauty 394 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 3: of it. 395 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: Just in the process you have to you really have 396 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 2: to note and understand, Okay, why isn't he there yet? 397 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: And are those things that we can help? Right? 398 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 2: Because if he's a good person and he's smart, and 399 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: he hasn't been exposed to hard work, but you do 400 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 2: see it in him, and most importantly, if you brought 401 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: him to practice and he watched the way we get 402 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: after it, because we do, we get after it, and 403 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 2: he's attracted to that, you know, and all the specs fit. Man, 404 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: I'm willing to roll the dice that we could be 405 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 2: great mentors because you know what my son's like. Like 406 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: I was growing up, I was missing a ton of 407 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: things and someone took a chance on myself, and I 408 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: want someone to take a chance on my son and 409 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: whatever he does as well for the right reasons, knowing 410 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 2: that you know what it's It may not look like 411 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 2: Francis Mino day one. I mean, I look like Pinay 412 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: School day one, but over time it might look as 413 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: good or better, you know, And that's that's the beauty 414 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: of development. And I don't think you stop developing or 415 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 2: you just never stop until the. 416 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 3: Day you retire. 417 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: You know, development is in every piece and opportunity throughout 418 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: every single day. 419 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: What part of you from playing days, but especially through 420 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: coaching days up until present day have you seen evolve 421 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: the most or maybe what characteristic aside from physicals, had 422 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: improved the most in yourself? 423 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: And I feel like it's a NonStop process. I mean, 424 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm learning all the time. I feel like, 425 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 2: you know, I come from the old school mentality where 426 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 2: I was fired up when a coach would just absolutely 427 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: rip me to shreds, knowing that I was going to 428 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: motivate me to go harder a coach, I wish you 429 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 2: weren't pad that kick you're at, you know. And I 430 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: but that that doesn't really, you know, translate well to 431 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: this day and age. That doesn't mean that people are different. 432 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: That just means that there's different ways to get to 433 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: the mind and to the heart. And I'm I've learned 434 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: more and more that you know what it's everybody's really 435 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 2: really different. And you could still coach them just as 436 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: hard and with just as much passion and intensity, but 437 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 2: different they understand like they're programmed, different, they have different languages, 438 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: they're you know, different kind of kilobytes. Certain things work 439 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 2: for certain computers, they don't work for others, and just 440 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: understanding and learning about that more and more and more. 441 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: Because as coach you're always digging to the. 442 00:20:55,080 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: Right technique, fundamental scheme, right different processes. But the the 443 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: human interaction, this is about people, always has been about 444 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: teaching people, learning from people, managing people, also being supervised 445 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: and managed. You know, this is like a give and 446 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: it take in a lot of different ways. And if 447 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: you go in there with the mentality and the conviction 448 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: that you're always right and there's no other way, I 449 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 2: think you have no chance. So I've learned to open 450 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: up and realize, hey, I have great people. I could 451 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: learn a lot from them as well, and they can 452 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: help us when they can help us get better. 453 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 3: So I'm still growing man fair enough me too. 454 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: You're talking about kind of the psychological aspect of players 455 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: and managing them, helping them, coaching them, and how the 456 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: psychology the mental makeup of your average eighteen year old 457 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five maybe a lot different than nineteen ninety, 458 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: but that's always been the case. I would imagine in 459 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety the same coaches were talking the same way 460 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: about when they played in the sixties, So I would 461 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: imagine it's always like an evolutionary aspect of just society 462 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: in general. But because of that, you're talking about focusing 463 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: as a head coach on much more than just ex's 464 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: nose and scheme and who are we playing next week. 465 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: You've really got to be in touch with the mental 466 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: makeup of someone who is fractionally as old as you 467 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: are and a generation that's much younger than you. And 468 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: I would imagine sometimes sticking your thermometer in like the 469 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: younger generation, you probably get some surprising results and see 470 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: some things that make you go really. 471 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well okay, I mean every day I try to 472 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: inject at least one to eighty song in the warm ups. 473 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 2: You know, no, little ACDC she never heard anybody never 474 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: start the day right. But again, I don't think players change. 475 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: I think adults have changed, you know, And any falter 476 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 2: or issues I blame adults, I do. I think it's 477 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: all on the adults to maintain the principles and values 478 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 2: of football that should never change, right, the sport itself, 479 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 2: the integrity of the sport that shouldn't ever have to 480 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: be compromised, no matter if it's twenty twenty five or 481 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy four. You know, we take a lot of 482 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 2: pride in that. And I think when we sit down 483 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: with parents and we we always look at it as 484 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: an opportunity to create a partnership as opposed to attain 485 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: a verbal commitment. I think those are two different. Those 486 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: are polar opposites, different sides of the earth of the world, 487 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: you know, And that's sun due time. And what besides, 488 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: you get to know them. They got to get to 489 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: know you, right, And it's got to be to a 490 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: point where a parent can put their heads down at 491 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: night and feel like I can sleep knowing my son 492 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: is in great hands that player above maybe not above 493 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: all else, but right in line with you know, the 494 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: trust factor being able to go to you in a 495 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: tough moment. He also has to feel that you're getting 496 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: him better, that we're not just out there just getting tired. 497 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 2: We're out there getting better. We're doing things to help 498 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: you and prove yourself. In the airs of either a 499 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 2: technique or fundamentals, conditioning, I discipline the mental part of 500 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 2: the game. In some way, shape or form. Players need 501 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: to and should feel like they're getting better in your program. 502 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: You know, what are you doing with them in the 503 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: off season. What are you doing for them in terms 504 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: of nutrition, in terms of recovery, in terms of an assiste, 505 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 2: of a guest speaker, you know, from financial literacy to 506 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: life skills, you name it, because that is our job. 507 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: We are teachers. A coach is a teacher and educator. Okay, 508 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: there's no punching the clock and rolling the ball out 509 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: there and you know, hoot and hollering and just calling 510 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: plays like that's that's not college coaching in my opinion. 511 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: So I think we have an unbelievable group of teachers, 512 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 2: booth men and women in the department. 513 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: And they know that, I mean, this is Miami, man. 514 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: It's like my heart and soul twenty four to seven 515 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 2: that this thing like coming back here was to make 516 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: sure that Miami again attained a certain level around you know, 517 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: college football and sustainable this time. And they know how 518 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: I feel about it. They do, And I want to 519 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: bring in people that impacted that will impact our guys 520 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: like I was impacted here. 521 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: So full throttle. 522 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: When you guys came out of spring, if you were 523 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: to you know, go to lunch with me and I said, hey, 524 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: what's the strongest part of that team right now? Where 525 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: are you looking at on that roster? 526 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 2: I'd say I'd go a couple of different ways with 527 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: the answer. I wouldn't let you leave after just one question. 528 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 2: I'd say, I'd say the trenches really stand out. I'd 529 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: say the secondary is the most improved. I'd say that 530 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: the lineback and corps has taken a drastic, dramatic step up, 531 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 2: significant step up. I would say that the young quarterback 532 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: room really stepped up. Really proud of those guys because 533 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 2: they all showed they could play winning football. And we're 534 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: really young at wide receiver and that was the big 535 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 2: question mark. So much production has left. What are these 536 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: is going to look like? And they did a great job. 537 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: They're not a finished product, No part of our team 538 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 2: is not even close. But I can honestly say, for 539 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: the this is now our four spring again progress. 540 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 3: And that was the goal. 541 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: You know, Obviously the defensive side needed massive and significant improvement. 542 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 2: But not only did they get better. I thought that everybody, 543 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: every phase of our program, some more than others, but 544 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: did get better. And as we head into you know, 545 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: our team workouts starting on Monday. 546 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 3: That's how we feel. 547 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 2: That's how you know, and now through the transfer portal additions, 548 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 2: we feel like we can take another jump. 549 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, what when you guys practice, are you still able 550 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: to practice the exact way you want to? With the 551 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: way depth looks a little bit different in today's game 552 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: than it looked like ten years ago when you may 553 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: have been at Bama and you just got guys running 554 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: with the threes that are future all Americans are virtually 555 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: every position, so you can practice any way you want to. 556 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: Are you still able to practice the exact way you 557 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: want to? 558 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: I think for the most part, yes, I think we're 559 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: very mindful on some of the other days as the 560 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: season wears on. I think your use of your Monday 561 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 2: or Sunday, you know, you got to choose which one 562 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 2: you use. The use of Monday and Thursdays where it 563 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: gets where you have to balance what's best for the 564 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: team first and foremost and tied into okay, what do 565 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: we need to do also to be prepared for this game? 566 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: But Tuesdays and Wednesdays, that is that's full throttle. Now 567 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: you know your team, These are still seventeen to twenty 568 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 2: two year old guys, and not everybody needs a gazillion reps, 569 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: but young guys they do. And I know that, you know, 570 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes we try to take away developmental moments. 571 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: To be really good at football, you have to play football, 572 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: and you have to practice football, especially when you're in 573 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 2: the trenches, and those guys need to work and they 574 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 2: have to be physical at the line of scrimmage. And 575 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: the only way to do that is to practice bodies 576 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: on bodies right and actually live. When I say it live, 577 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be tackled. But you know, whether 578 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: it be in shells or full pads, you've got to 579 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 2: practice football. You've got to practice technique and fundamentals against 580 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: live bodies. 581 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: All this stuff happening right now. You could talk about 582 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: the rev share thing that's coming right around the corner. Actually, 583 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: you could talk about potential changes to the way NIL 584 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: is policed. You could talk about the different portal windows 585 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: you're going to go the OTA route, Is spring practice 586 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: going to change in college football? All that stuff's on 587 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: your plate, but you don't know how any of it's 588 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: going to turn out. So as you sit here, you 589 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: know you can't control that, But are there personal preferences 590 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: you have as you look at the game right now 591 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: versus you know all the potential changes coming, Are there 592 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: a couple of them that you're kind of rooting for? Man, 593 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: I actually hope we do get this or that. 594 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 2: I'm rooting for one portal window that lets everyone set 595 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: their team for the spring. I'm rooting for developmental opportunities, 596 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: maybe in the form of I don't know if OTA 597 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: is the right word, but something where instead of the 598 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: players having player led practices, you could do something of 599 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: that nature, but actually be out there and coach and teach, 600 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 2: because again, guys need reps. And the good part is 601 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: the guys that I've logged a lot of reps. Theirs 602 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: is not as intensive, so you're being smart with your team. 603 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: You're not trying to look for ungodly amounts of extra work. 604 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: You're trying to get work to the guys that really 605 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: really need it. So I think that's really important. I 606 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: like to get back in homes right now. The calendar 607 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: has this so that head coaches are not getting in 608 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 2: the homes of prospective student athletes, which is wild because 609 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: when I first started coaching, I used to be able 610 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: to go on the road at all times and recruit 611 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: and that's an aspect that you know, for a lot 612 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: of programs that hurts. You know, a lot of head 613 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: coaches are good evaluators and good recruiters. Man, I got 614 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: a lot of other stuff. I don't know how much time. 615 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: You got on my camera. 616 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: I could keep going and going and going. 617 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 3: Brother. 618 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: You know, I like the idea of maybe not spring 619 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: inter squad scrimmage, but I do like it in the fall, 620 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: like a preseason game works for the NFL that has 621 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: some value to it. 622 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 3: Don't know if we do it, but I like the 623 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 3: option to do it to get some other you know, 624 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: different looks, different people. What else. 625 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 2: I just like the fact at the end of the day, man, 626 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: on Saturday, Friday, Thursday, or whatever it may be, the 627 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: ball is still going to be placed on the tea 628 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: and it's going to be kicked off and you're playing football, 629 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: and football is always going to be football, And I 630 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: get it. There's a lot of stuff and a lot 631 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: of noise, a lot of you know, there's a lot 632 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 2: of stuff, you know, and some of that stuff is 633 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: a pain in the neck. But I love football a 634 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: lot more than I dislike all the other stuff. That's 635 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 2: kind of trying to mess with it. So football for life, 636 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: same absolutely same. Let me get you out here on this. 637 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 2: You're talking about football games on Saturday. Everyone gets to 638 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 2: watch those. 639 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: They're all big broadcast networks and it's publicly available. A 640 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: lot of the more fascinating parts usually are the parts 641 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: people don't get to see, and naturally there's more interest 642 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: and intriguing and I wonder what's going on over here 643 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: or over there. And I've always found the feedback I 644 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: get from fans is, well, what are coaches saying? So 645 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: we give them as much as we can in these 646 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: kind of interview settings, but also I think there's a 647 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: lot of interest in what coaches are talking about most 648 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: readily with each other, of what those league meetings and 649 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: those coaches meetings are like, because on one hand, you're 650 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,239 Speaker 1: competing against all those guys and you're recruiting against them, 651 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: you're going to play against them. But yet it's also 652 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: sort of fraternal in nature that hey, we're kind of 653 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: all in this together. It's our game. So what are 654 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: those settings like these days? 655 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 2: I mean, they're necessary because at the end of n 656 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: we're all keepers of the game, and we all it's 657 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: our responsibility to make the game better. 658 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 3: And the neat thing I think people lose sight of this. 659 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 3: All those guys. 660 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: Sitting down at some point in time, they were sitting 661 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: in the player seats. Yeah, you know, these guys are 662 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: sitting fall out of the sky and we're handing over 663 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: a shirt and a whistle and say a man, go coach. 664 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: So they've had experience on both sides, and for the 665 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: most part you find truly like keepers of the game 666 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 2: that want to. 667 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 3: Make it better. 668 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 2: Now do I love sitting there with rivals and opponents? 669 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: I hate that. I don't be honest with you. I 670 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: never said that publicly, but I don't like that. I 671 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 2: don't like part of It's like what are we doing? 672 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 3: You know? 673 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: And you have to really check yourself and say, it's 674 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: beyond that. It's about the game, and the game is 675 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: still about developing people, about developing culture as a community, 676 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: as a society, as a country man. Football is Football 677 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 2: is as valuable as I mean, at least for me, 678 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: as for developing human beings, as anything you know out there, 679 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: and we have to put all that other stuff aside 680 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 2: for a few hours, you know. I mean, I'm sure 681 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: if you rang a bell, you'd have WrestleMania, you know, 682 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: right in the middle of it. 683 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: But you have to put all that. 684 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: Stuff aside and realize, look, there's still you know, thousands 685 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: of student athletes that could really benefit from this. I 686 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: just I do want us, you know, going forward as 687 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: coaches to I'm all about discussing some of the rights 688 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: and privileges of the student athletes, but I want to 689 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: get more into talking about the duties and obligations of 690 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: them as well, because in your own household, of course, 691 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 2: you want to raise your son's daughters a certain way 692 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 2: and you want to grant them rights, but you also 693 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,959 Speaker 2: want to teach them their duties and their obligations. You know, 694 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: with performance comes reward. With lack of performance comes consequence. 695 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 2: With doing the right things becomes impact. With not doing 696 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: the right things will comes this. You know, like that's 697 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: our job. You know, if you're really in it for 698 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 2: the right reasons, if you're really a teacher, I think 699 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 2: that has to be at the forefront of conversations of regiments, 700 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: of policies and procedures. And that's one thing I would 701 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 2: like to see more from college football. 702 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: It's a good one and on we appreciate it. 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