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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to George. Nor with you, Carol Lobly

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Speaker 2: with us at Carol's website is linked up at Coast

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Speaker 2: tocoastam dot com where books are still available. How do

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Speaker 2: people get your books, Carol?

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Speaker 3: Amazon?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're on Amazon, They're on Kindle. You won't get

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Speaker 4: an autograph copy there though, you can only get that

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Speaker 4: from me.

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Speaker 3: Aha, that's worth it too.

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Speaker 4: They are listed on my website, Carol.

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Speaker 2: Religion teaches us that there's a heaven and the hell.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that concept?

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Speaker 4: Well, there are certainly planes. When I say planes, I'm

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Speaker 4: referring to planes of consciousness. There are certain certainly lower planes,

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Speaker 4: the closer that you get to Earth, the dancer, and

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Speaker 4: the less light and I mean actual light, as you know,

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Speaker 4: light that illuminates. The closer ones to Earth are denser,

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Speaker 4: and they are relatively ugly compared to the higher planes

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Speaker 4: where most people go. So absolutely there are lower levels.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that I would describe them as the

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Speaker 4: biblical hell, but they certainly are not as pleasant as

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Speaker 4: the higher levels. And you have to understand, though, we

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Speaker 4: go where at the time of death, we have a

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Speaker 4: certain consciousness, so we can't go anywhere other than what

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Speaker 4: is matching or what is resonating with that particular consciousness.

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Speaker 4: And so for example, a Hitler, you know, isn't going

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Speaker 4: to go to the higher levels. Jeffrey Dahmer is not

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Speaker 4: going to go.

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Speaker 3: To the higher level, to the higher levels.

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Speaker 4: Right, So there is really you know, there by the

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Speaker 4: law of attraction, which is a valid natural law, we

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Speaker 4: can only go where our consciousness is matching. And it's possible, George,

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Speaker 4: for those in a higher plane to descend to a

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Speaker 4: lower for example, to help souls that are there, or

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Speaker 4: to you know, in some way commune with those souls,

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Speaker 4: But it's not possible for lower souls to go to

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Speaker 4: the higher levels.

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Speaker 3: What about the devil, Carol, where does the devil sit

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Speaker 3: in here at all?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I go back and forth with that.

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Speaker 4: You know, certainly there are lower astral entities referring to

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Speaker 4: the spirit world. Certainly they are there. One of the

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Speaker 4: influences that they can have with people are through drugs

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Speaker 4: and alcohol. Also, I believe to a certain degree certain

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Speaker 4: mental disorders, and I don't mean that in any disparaging way. Whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: But there can be sometimes not all the time, an

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Speaker 4: influence with people that might be suffering from a mental illness.

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Speaker 4: So absolutely those exist. I have had sleep paralysis. I

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Speaker 4: think I've spoken about that on coast before, and I've

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Speaker 4: actually seen some of these I don't know if you

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Speaker 4: want to call them demonic or satanic energies that have

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Speaker 4: come around, and they're very frightening, very very frightened.

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Speaker 3: What did they want, Carol?

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Speaker 4: I believe that my theory on it is that they

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Speaker 4: want some sort of control of the soul. And I

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Speaker 4: used to get these quite frequently when I was much,

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Speaker 4: much younger, And it was interesting because I was I

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Speaker 4: was drinking heavily at the time, drinking alcohol heavily. You

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Speaker 4: were at the time, Yeah, during.

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Speaker 3: My uh would never imagine that.

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Speaker 4: Actually, that's how I really jumpstarted my spiritual pathway was

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Speaker 4: through twelve step twelve step recovery and at the age

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Speaker 4: of twenty five, I was dying. Oh my god, Carol, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Did you do drugs just alcohol?

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Speaker 4: Both? Yeah, I'm quite I'm very transparent and as far

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Speaker 4: as what I talk about with myself, and you know,

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Speaker 4: I really am very real and so that's you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that was a big problem. I was going straight down

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Speaker 4: the tubes. And I believe that, you know, divine intervention

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Speaker 4: happened at that point. I mean I was in my

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Speaker 4: some of these night paralysis or night terror things were happening.

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Speaker 4: And I think at that time Georgia, it was like

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Speaker 4: really kind of a battle in a way. I don't

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Speaker 4: mean to sound corny with this, but kind of a

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Speaker 4: battle for my soul in some way. You know, which

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Speaker 3: Well, they don't have it yet.

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Speaker 4: No, No, I have not drunk alcohol. I never drink

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Speaker 4: alcohol and I haven't in forty years.

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Speaker 3: Where where does God play a role in this, Carol?

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. I can't imagine living life without God

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Speaker 4: the core to me to everything I'm doing, to helping people.

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Speaker 4: You know, I I don't perceive as God as the

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Speaker 4: you know, the biblical type of God. Uh. To me,

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Speaker 4: I call it that entity spirit if within everything, every

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Speaker 4: with that recognition, there really is this great equality amongst

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Speaker 4: every living thing. And it's our perception of Yah through

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Speaker 4: the division here on this earth plane of duality that

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Speaker 4: really causes that separation. But once you really get that

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Speaker 4: that you know, the God energy or the God force

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Speaker 4: that's what I think people, really, that's what humanity needs

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Speaker 4: to realize, is that that fundamental concept.

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Speaker 2: If a human dies, and you know, before they died,

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Speaker 2: they wanted to make up with a friend or do

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Speaker 2: something wonderful for somebody, and they never had the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to do that because they died, does that haunt them

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Speaker 4: Yes, in a nutshell to answer that, yes, it does

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Speaker 4: haunt them. It also, throughout many years of doing mediumistic

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Speaker 4: readings for people, people often harbor regrets themselves, and a

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Speaker 4: big one too is guilt. Well I should have done this,

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Speaker 4: I should have done that. You know, I sat with

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Speaker 4: into that good night, as they say. So, guilt can

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Speaker 4: really an unproductive emotion, and that that's on both sides

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Speaker 4: spirit world and also from people here in the fiscal world.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever met a spirit you didn't like?

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Speaker 4: No, I've met plenty of people in the living that

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, but usually no. And you know,

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Speaker 4: And I honestly I haven't encountered that, although the personality

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Speaker 4: is physically abusive to the recipient of that reading, that

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Speaker 4: will show up in the reading, and you know, so

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Speaker 4: in that way, yes it is known. But usually that

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Speaker 4: they will often express regret about that because they've seen

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Speaker 2: Why does it seem that there are so many ghostly

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Speaker 2: hauntings from the dead.

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Speaker 4: Well, sometimes there's an emotional attachment to something that was unfinished,

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Speaker 4: usually just as a blanket statement, it's unfinished business on

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Speaker 4: And I stopped collecting because I just don't have any

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Speaker 4: clairvoyantly I saw a very dejected man about I don't know,

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Speaker 4: I actually felt what he.

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Speaker 3: Was feeling a live human or a ghost.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, no, this was this was a spirit, okay.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I said I saw him clairvoyantly. It

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Speaker 4: know the different objects have come from all over the place.

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Speaker 4: So I know that, you know, cost has done things

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Speaker 3: Yes, we're talking.

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Speaker 4: I really believe that now, I mean I.

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Speaker 3: Really well, there's no question about it.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about that with our previous guest who came

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Speaker 2: on before you Joshua.

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Speaker 3: Warren about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he goes into antique stores just for that purpose.

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Speaker 4: But once I saw that, I felt a lot of

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Speaker 4: that stuff. He wouldn't he wouldn't leave. It was like

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Speaker 4: there was a great sadness, you know, with him. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, there there is a lingering that can occur.

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Speaker 4: And also I believe there's a replay in the etheric,

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Speaker 4: a double it's you know, it's a doppel ganger of

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Speaker 4: a replay that can happen, and particularly with strong emotions.

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Speaker 4: That's why you get hauntings on you know, like some

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Speaker 4: of these ships that have sunk and so forth, or

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Speaker 4: there was strong emotion.

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Speaker 3: Pretty dramatic stuff. It really is.

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Speaker 2: Carol let your website, can people email you and set

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Speaker 2: up appointments.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I prefer that they call my office, but I'm

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Speaker 4: more of a in person and I managed my entire

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Speaker 3: Really, you have no assistance, Huh?

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Speaker 4: I do not, and I'm I'm micro of a micromanager,

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Speaker 4: probably because I'm a Sun sign Capricorn you, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: they can contact me that way as well.

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Speaker 2: We're going to take calls with Carol Obly next hour.

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Speaker 2: She'll do psychic readings and medium readings. What's the difference

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Speaker 2: between the two.

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Speaker 4: Carol, Psychism is more of reading that person in the

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Speaker 4: physical body that is on the other end of the

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Speaker 4: phone or on zoom or in front of you, whereas

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Speaker 4: mediumship is connecting or blending with a soul who is

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Speaker 4: not here in the physical realm.

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Speaker 3: And do you prefer one against the other.

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Speaker 4: No, Usually there's a blending. Most readings, there's a blending

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Speaker 4: or what I call life guidance. A lot of people

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Speaker 4: ask about things such as career relationships, spirituality, money, you know,

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Speaker 4: all of those sorts of things. So that's what I

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Speaker 4: would consider more psyche oriented. Mediumship is an actual blending

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Speaker 4: in connection with the soul who's not here physically.

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