1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: The Stock Movers podcast, your roundup of companies making moves 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: in the stock market, harnessing the power of Bloomberg Data. 4 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 3: I'm Carol Master with Matt Miller. We do want to 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 3: take a look at some stocks on the move. Christina 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 3: Quino's with us, managing editor for Bloomberg Markets Live blog 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: here at Bloomberg News. 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 4: We do want to talk stocks, and Centene is one 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 4: that everyone's. 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: Been talking about today. 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 4: Christine, absolutely, Carol. 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, with a record forty percent drop, how could 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: you not talk about it? Right? So Yeah. Senten ticker 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: CNC is a health insurance group and the reason it 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: dropped so much today was because it pulled its twenty 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: twenty five guidance, primarily because of rising risks from its 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: Affordable Care Act plans. Right, the company is the biggest 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: or it's a top seller of ACA health plans, and 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: given what's going on with the tax bill and potential 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: cut to medicate, is really suffering big and you know, 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: it's taken down a lot of the other health insurance 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: companies who investors are fearing might suffer the same fate, 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: particularly for Sentine. We did have ubs analysts cutting their 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: view to neutral from buy, and they're saying the same thing. 25 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: You know, Medicaid costrnds not looking great for this company. 26 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: Blooming Intelligence also warning that its debt faces the risk 27 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: of being downgraded to junk and potentially be excluded from 28 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg US aggregate in debt got in one day, like. 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all over. It's amazing that nobody saw this coming, right, 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 4: We've seen the draft legislation, right, it's fascinating. And you 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 4: know what else is fascinating, Christine, the fact that Tesla 32 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 4: actually rose today after putting out such dismal sales numbers. 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 4: I mean, this is a company that's supposed to be 34 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 4: making at least two million and selling two million cars 35 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: a year, and if you look at what they did 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 4: this last quarter, it's an annual run rate of only 37 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 4: one point five. 38 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely man, and now they're facing a deficit of one 39 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: hundred and ten thousand cars to overcome that in the 40 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: second half and return to growth this year. But yeah, 41 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: absolutely right, Tesla took her Tsla finishing the day of 42 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: nearly five percent. You know what, it's really benefiting from 43 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: lowered expectations, That's what it is right, because, yes, as 44 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: you pointed out that global sales tumbled more than thirty 45 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: thirteen percent in the second quarter, but because the expectation 46 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: was for as much as a twenty percent decline, then 47 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: analysts are saying, oh, actually it's not that bad. And 48 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: we did get William Blear analysts saying as well that 49 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: their inline delivery numbers is probably being seen as win 50 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: and there's a sense that demand growth is simply slowing 51 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: rather than spiraling. 52 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 4: I will say that did you have gene Monster on? 53 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: Who had gene Monster? 54 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: No, that was the tech show. I saw him on 55 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 4: Bloomberg Tech with Ed Ludlow on Carolina. 56 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: I said, we're at the bottom here, right, managing partner 57 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: of Deepwater Asset Management talking. 58 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 4: I did see what Ford the Ford Motor Company, which 59 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: had been the second biggest seller of electric vehicles in 60 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: America after Tesla. They only sold sixteen thousand evs in 61 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: the whole second quarter. 62 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: It's not great. 63 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 4: So it makes Tesla's three three hundred and eighty four 64 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 4: thousand seem like a decent amount. 65 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 66 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's Tesla doing this year? 67 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 4: Tesla is uh? I think they have drawn down twenty 68 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: two percent day Yeah, and they've dropped below a trillion dollars. 69 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: Right as we were saying yesterday, they're no longer a 70 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 4: trillion dollar stock. Oh no, day's game brillion. Today's game 71 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: there at one point zero won six trillion dollars. 72 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: Tick her ts la, we know it. Well, let's go 73 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: to Coinbase. 74 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: Coinbase tick her coi in. That's also having a good 75 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: day today. Shares up five percent to finish the day, 76 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: and that is really primarily due to just this euphoria 77 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: over the stock market, right and when you see SMB 78 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: five hundred finishing your record highs once again, the first 79 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: things out. 80 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: Game euphooria of the stock market. 81 00:03:59,440 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: School. 82 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: Still lack of outright bag us. She'll be free like that, right, 83 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: But you know, and when the stock mark is kind 84 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: of in this sort of mood, it's a shortened week, 85 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: we're about to head into a holiday long weekend. There 86 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: is a little bit of optimism there, however, short lived. 87 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: But crypto link stocks of course benefiting from that, in 88 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: Coinbase among them. But you know, specifically for coinbas we 89 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: did have a few bits of good news for them. 90 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: You know, they have that tie up with PayPal in 91 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: Australia where customers can now use PayPal to buy and 92 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: sell cryptocurrencies on a platform. And then last week their 93 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: shares also hit their first record since twenty twenty one, 94 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: and that is because of the US Senate legislation for 95 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: stable coins pegged at a dollar. That really did do 96 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: a lot for coinbase shares, and of course it may 97 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: it was Attitude to S and P five. 98 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: Hundred, the Stock Movers podcast from Bloomberg Radio. Check back 99 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: with us throughout the day for the latest roundup of 100 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: companies making news on Wall Street and for the latest 101 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: market move moving headlines. Listen to Bloomberg Radio Live, catch 102 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: us on YouTube, Bloomberg dot com, and on Applecarplay and 103 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: Android Auto with the Bloomberg Business app.