1 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks so 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: much for joining us again today. Kathy and I are 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: always excited to get on here. 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: Always, always, we are so excited. We're doing well. Susan's 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: getting a tan on and I'm sir sweating to death 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: in Austin, so you know, nothing's changed. But today we 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: have a very very special guest, someone I just had 8 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 2: so much fun staring at in Paradise. Please Welcome from 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: Bachelor in Paradise. Sean. Hi, Sean, Welcome to Bachelor Happy. 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 3: Hi, ladies, thank you for having me. I'm excited to 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: be here. This is the first time we're doing it. 12 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm so excited to get to know you. 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: Oh trust me, Susan, you like a good looking man 14 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: came on the show. 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, you guys are already making me 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: blush for like ten seconds. And this is gonna be 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: a great I can't wait to go out after this. 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have such a confidence boost. 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: Oh please, you really, seriously, Sean, you need a confidence boost. 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: Come on, I probably need to tone it down a notch. 21 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: But you know, I just I want to know. I mean, 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: you know, I adored you when I got to actually 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 2: I met you before Paradise, but I'd actually forgotten i'd 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 2: met you, and you had to point that out, showed 25 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: me up there. But what have you been up to 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: since Paradise? 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of got back into a normal flow. 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: I mean, I have a regular job. I work in 29 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: AI sales, so a lot of travel with that, going 30 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: to different conferences. But I'm here in Tampa and just 31 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: kind of got back into the normal life a little bit. 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: I'm enjoying my time. It's just starting to get amazing 33 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: weather here, so playing a lot of golf and hanging 34 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: out a little. 35 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 4: Jealous about that. 36 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, little jelly, what's your handicap? 37 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: I'm a five point nine right now, which is. 38 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: Oh, Susan. Just so you know, anybody who gives it 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: to you with a digit and a point, they're a 40 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: serious golfer. 41 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh, do you shoot in the seventies? 42 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: I shot this past weegin I play twice, I shot 43 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: seventy six and eighty. But it's it's so weird with 44 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: golf because when I get consistently I'm playing like I 45 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: can get down and shoot in the mid seventies pretty consistently. 46 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: But after filming Paradise and probably since I started doing 47 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 3: the Bachelor franchise. I know, I'm traveling so much, I 48 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: have so much stuff going on. I'm not getting that 49 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: consistent golf time in so then my super I know, 50 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: but my scores reflected. So then I get all mad, 51 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: and you know, then it just makes me upset. So no, this. 52 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 2: Is why, this is why I don't take golf. I play, 53 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: but you can't take it seriously unless you're going to 54 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: spend the hours, uh you know, doing it, but you 55 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: know practicing. But you say you've been traveling a lot. 56 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: Uh huh. We saw that you were in New Year's 57 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: in Vegas with a bunch of people from Bachelor. I'd 58 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: like to know, And don't tell me what happened in Vegas. 59 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: Days in Vegas. I do not want what happens in 60 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: So tell me how was that? 61 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: It was amazing? Honestly, I'm trying to think what I 62 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: can share it was? It was? It was great. 63 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 4: You know, was it someone's birthday? 64 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: It was? It was Charity's birthday New Year But it 65 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: was the thing is with that crew, I think Charity's 66 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 3: friends from Zach season that she's close with. And then 67 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: obviously the guys from her season that I'm close with 68 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: Don specifically in the rest of the group, we have 69 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: such a solid group of people, and anytime we all 70 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: get together, we we messed really well. So you know 71 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: it was it was a blast. We had a good time. 72 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: Is fun. 73 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 4: That's so. 74 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: And now you think I'm gonna let you go with that. 75 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: I want one piece of juice. Give it to me. 76 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: Oh you Wade did not. 77 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: No, No, we're not going to cat yet. Do you 78 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: remember when I said to you on Paradise, I said, 79 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: oh my god, you must have been in politics. You 80 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: talk to us when you say, actually, my father's in politics. 81 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: So that answer you just gave me was a political answer, 82 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: not want the truth. Went on in. 83 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: Vegas, well, Vegas went on. In Vegas. We were playing 84 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: a lot of we were gambling a lot. I think 85 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: that it was great was that you had a huge 86 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: group of girls and a huge group of guys, so 87 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: the eyes kind of went to the tables, and we 88 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: love playing blackjack. But then we'd all meet up at 89 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: night for dinners. Nothing was like that insane. I will say, 90 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: I'll tease something that wasn't the first time that we 91 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: had all hung out before, like recently, so there is 92 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: something that might be coming with all of us together, 93 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: so ah, and that I can't actually share yet, so 94 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: I'll give you a nice little tease. 95 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, we. 96 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: Like it, and see what you get here. Okay, Now, 97 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: where do you can't stand? 98 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: I think? I mean, I think we're all past it. 99 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: I would say, I mean it was. It was good 100 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 3: to see her out in Vegas. I mean, I have 101 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 3: no bad blood and I don't think she does either, 102 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think we're good. It was it was 103 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: good to see her, and yeah, we're fine. I think 104 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: what people in the audience might not understand is, like, 105 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: did emotions that you feel when you're filming a televisionself, 106 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: specifically with the Bachelor franchise, You're it's kind of like 107 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: this flighter fight or flight response, and your your adrenaline 108 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: is always so high, your stress is always so high, 109 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 3: So it's sometimes like in the moment, you get all 110 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: worked up, but a month or two removed, everything calms 111 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: down and it goes back to Norman away, And I 112 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 3: feel like that was definitely you know cat. 113 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: Myself, I have so many questions, wos you gotta let 114 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: me go here? For one? Second, it first of all 115 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: another political answer. We're digging deep in hair, who broke 116 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: up with whom? And who with Alicia? Then we're getting 117 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: back to cat. 118 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: Oh okay, Oh, it was kind of like I would 119 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: I want to say mutual. I would say, well, so 120 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: I didn't want to do long distance. And Alicia was 121 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 3: living in Tampa at the time, and she had moved 122 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: to l a kind of abruptly, so I we kind 123 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: of mutually both said like once she got out to LA, 124 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 3: it was not not working. It was not going to work. 125 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 3: And I had, you know, I have a house here 126 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: in Tampa, I have a job, I have all these 127 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: things that I kind of have to I would have 128 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 3: to button up before moving to LA. And it wasn't 129 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 3: really on my radar. So yeah, it was. It was 130 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 3: more so the distance type thing, but it was it 131 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 3: was kind of abrupt fair enough. 132 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: Fair enough, Okay. So the whole thing in Paradise with 133 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: the receipt by the way, that was the first time 134 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: I had ever heard the word receipts used in that way. 135 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: Just they had receipts were just. 136 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: Coming on to be in the mayor for goodness, say 137 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: you own the role you were being your dad where 138 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: you're just trying to feel it. 139 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 2: Out, or the Prince of Parliament who were you against? 140 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 3: I called them the yeah yeah, the Parliament of Paradise leader. 141 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: I wanted to say, I was, you know, elected official, unelected, 142 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: whatever you can say, but I wanted I want to 143 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 3: have so much fun with that, Like I thought that, 144 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: and I think Kathy watching it back, you probably you 145 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: felt very similar where it's like, hey, like have fun, 146 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: like go play a game. I think you said something 147 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: like I want to give it to every place the 148 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 3: best game, and I had got into a game mode. 149 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: No one else was thinking that way. But I had 150 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 3: already done that. I had already done Paradise. I had 151 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: already done like you know, at once before. So like 152 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: the game show, the competition element was so interesting and 153 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: fun to me, no one else was like having that 154 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: much fun with the game side of it. The games themselves, 155 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: like I thought filming them, some of them were so 156 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: terrible to film. It was like it didn't it wasn't 157 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: fun filming the game elements, like the competitions. However, the 158 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: overarching theme of like voting off like I grew up 159 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: watching Survivor, Like I love that type of stuff, So 160 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: I had fun with it. 161 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I get it, But I want to go back 162 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: to the the the horror show that happened at the 163 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: at the end of the show with like, whose idea 164 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: was that to bring up the whole with you and Alicia? 165 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: Whose idea was that to bring up the receipts and 166 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: the cat dating that whole thing? Where did that come from? 167 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,559 Speaker 4: The iPad the whole? 168 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I didn't know any of that when I 169 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: was when before I got voted off, Like, I had 170 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: zero idea, So that information surface after I got voted off, 171 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: So it was like what do you do the information? 172 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: You just sit on it? Or do you like bring 173 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: it up? 174 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: And the thing it makes for good TV? 175 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: Well, the thing is it is like I found out 176 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: the information, was like, all, well, like what am I 177 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: going to do? And in a perfect golf analogy, you 178 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: kind of got to protect the field. So if everyone's 179 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: competing for half a million dollars, you kind of got 180 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: to be You can't just like hide it, like withhold 181 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: that information because it affects people's voting and things like that. 182 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: So I don't know. It was kind of like in 183 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: the golf analogy, protecting the field a bit, and I 184 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: was pissed. 185 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: Whatever I gotta say, I am, I'm a smart girl, 186 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: and I'm so confused. What the hell you're talking about? 187 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 2: None of it's making any sense. 188 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: I get it because he got all that information. They answered, 189 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 4: he was off the show. 190 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 2: But why now he's compelled to tell it? 191 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: Because if I don't tell it, then other people don't 192 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 3: have accessed the information to vote, having that in their 193 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 3: in their mind. So if they have one view of 194 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: something and there's information that contradicts it, that would give 195 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: people information to do it. 196 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: Okay, but weren't you in really good friends? 197 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: We were, yeah, going into stocking, So why. 198 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: Would you throw your really good friend under the bus. 199 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: Because the way in this case under the beach. 200 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: Under the beach, Yeah, because the way. And the thing 201 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: is like when you're on the show, you kind of 202 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: get like half information. I had been told that she 203 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: was trying to have people vote me off, like she 204 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: was voting for me, So I was like, WHOA, what 205 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: the heck? Like I thought we were friends all this 206 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 3: type of stuff. So I felt completely betrayed because she 207 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: was like someone I was close to prior to getting there, 208 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: before any of this all happened, so like I felt like, 209 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: now you're defense and I was like, why are you 210 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: like the one person that I was like, I'm not 211 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: going to vote for her ever, Like I thought we 212 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: had each other's back, Like I thought she would be 213 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: coming to my defense and letting me know if things 214 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: were happening in the background. So I felt like I was. 215 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: It wasn't reciprocated in a way in terms of like the allegiance. 216 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 2: So two things I want to say, Susan take a 217 00:09:58,760 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: lesson here. 218 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 4: I know he feels for trained, I'm feeling. 219 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: How are you in cap today? 220 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good. I mean we don't We definitely don't 221 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: talk as much as we used to. But I think 222 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: there's not like any resentment towards each other. Like I said, 223 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 3: we were in Vegas, everything was fine. It was good. 224 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: This ye her and you know, I'm sure what we're 225 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: cross pass again here at some point. So yeah, everything's good. 226 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 4: And tell us about Alicia. 227 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 3: Then, I haven't talked to Alicia a long time, honestly. 228 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: No. 229 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I reached out. I said, like I've 230 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: reached out before, said happy birthday, just crickets. Really yeah, yeah, 231 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: it was. It's interesting and I like, you know, I 232 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 3: feel like I didn't do anything wrong. She kind of 233 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 3: feels differently and like she had kind of said something. 234 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: What does she think you did wrong? 235 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: She went on a podcast one of the Bachelor shows 236 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 3: and she was like, oh, he like was going behind 237 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: me back and what I'm doing? 238 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: What? 239 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing is she just left at that, 240 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: so it's kind of vague. So people like made assumptions 241 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: about things. I me, going behind her back was actually 242 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 3: me and Kat had a conversation prior to the reunion, 243 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 3: after Alicia and I had already broken up, and I 244 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: didn't tell Alicia about that conversation because I didn't feel 245 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: like I needed to. 246 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: I just say, who's on first? Yeah, well so wait 247 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 2: a minute, So so you and Alicia are on? It's whatever. 248 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: I mean, you're obviously not close anymore. What what did 249 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: you think about Kat and Dale's breakup? 250 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's Were you surprised? And I mean I 251 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: don't think I don't know it was. I'm not surprised, 252 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: but like, I'm not surprised if anyone on the show 253 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: breaks up, you know, like anyone that meets through this 254 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 3: this style of dating, it's really difficult so it's not 255 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: like they have the highest success rating, especially coming off 256 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: with shows like this and any not even just the 257 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: Bachelor franchise, Love Island, any of them. Right, So I 258 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 3: wasn't necessarily surprised. I think it's tough, Like you know, 259 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 3: I never want people to go through pain, whether it's 260 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 3: Cat or Dale or both parties. So yeah, no, I 261 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: wasn't surprised, but it kind of sucks for both. 262 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: But there was really good successful ones that came off. 263 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: We just had them on and they're so in love. 264 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: It does happen. 265 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: Are you surprised there together all the all the couple. 266 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm not surprised they're still together. I'm 267 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 3: just saying more not just Jess. Oh no, no, I 268 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: think I mean it's Jess and U justin Spencer and 269 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: then Alex Andrew. Yeah, so no, I think they're both 270 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: going strong. 271 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: And Bailey Bailee, Oh my. 272 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 3: God, am I forgetting Bailey and Jeremy Right, No, I'm 273 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: definitely they're really happy. They're amazing. I'm definitely like I 274 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: talked to Bailey and Jeremy like the most out of 275 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: anyone from from Paradise. Yeah, and and they're great. I 276 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: mean I've stayed with Jeremy and New York a couple 277 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 3: of times. I went out and saw Bailey in Portugal 278 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: when I was there this summer, and she gave me. 279 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: I'm going You're going to Lisbon and Porto. 280 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I went to You're gonna love it. Porto was amazing, like, 281 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, what a beautiful city. And she's the 282 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: she's the best tour tour guide. So yeah, they're doing 283 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 3: great and they're doing strong. So it's happy to see 284 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: we did have successful relationships just in general throughout the 285 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: terms of like reality dating and tough. 286 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: So, but weren't you sorry that I didn't leave with someone? 287 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: I was room for you. I was room for you. Kathy. 288 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 4: You know it was nobody to leave with Kathy. 289 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, Kathy, is not your fault. It 290 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: was the cast. They didn't cast your person there. It 291 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 3: wasn't you. If there, if there was more options on 292 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: the beach, I'm sure you would have found someone and left. 293 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 2: Jean got a senator, I'm voting for you. 294 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: I have a totally pedal politicism, but I do have 295 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: a question. What was the response like from like the 296 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: vachtination people like did you were you the villain? Were 297 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: they attacking you or were they supporting you? 298 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 3: Oh? Man, well yeah, I think I had to suck. Yeah, 299 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 3: I think I felt very villainous in terms of like, 300 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: oh my god, the amounted dms, Like if I went 301 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: through my dms, it's hundreds and hundreds of messages. I 302 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: still get them to this day that people are still 303 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: catching up on Paradise apparently, and like I'll get randomly 304 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 3: won where I'm like, all right, well they just watched 305 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: the episode. But I think for the most part, like 306 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: the fans of the show, ninety percent of the fans 307 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: of the BacT World are amazing. Anytime I get approach 308 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: in public, everyone's great, always have great interactions. You have 309 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: the ten percent that takes it above and beyond and 310 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 3: what's really necessary, and that's the stuff that you see, 311 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: Like the average viewer is not dming me, like telling 312 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 3: me to like jump off a bridge, you know, so 313 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: like it's I always kind of have put it on 314 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: the wayside and been like, listen, anyone that's deals that 315 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: need to DM me, Like I don't really need to 316 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: take their advice. 317 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: Okay, So Sean, I have something I don't know if 318 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: you know this when you and Alicia started that whole 319 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: conversation you brought. I don't know if you remember me 320 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: coming up to you and saying, can you let it go? 321 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: Do you remember me saying let it go? Don't do it? 322 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: I don't and you said, you said, I'm doing it. 323 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: I'm doing And so when it when it all started, 324 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: I was sitting at the bar. I got up and left. 325 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: I did. I got up and left, and one of 326 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: the directors came to Kathy, you have to get back 327 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: out there, and I looked him straight in the eyes 328 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: and I said, no, I don't because I thought it 329 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: was so harsh. And I love you to pieces, but 330 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: I just thought it was so harsh because I didn't 331 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: know kat or Dale before, and I did think it 332 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: was villainous even though I look at Kathy. 333 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 4: If it was so true, would you still feel that way? 334 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: Listen, I'm Keith and I are the two that said 335 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: and meant it that and not everyone believed us at first. 336 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: Like we talked and we said we're not going to 337 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: take money out of young kid's hands, Like that's why 338 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: we stuck around so long. People knew that we were 339 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: kind people to be there. 340 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 4: To sell right were challenging them. 341 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: I would never I love the games. I wanted to 342 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: win just because I'm competitive, but not but you know, 343 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: we you know, Sean, we started stabbing ourselves and one 344 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: of those things because we you know so so to me, 345 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just when you're on I I 346 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: hate that people think you're a villain because I don't 347 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: think you are. But I thought that was brutal. And 348 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: I didn't know if you just thought it was getting 349 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: caught up in the moment or you really felt like 350 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: you were doing a service to all the other contestants. 351 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: I thought it was more so, more so the service. 352 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: But then again, like I always go back to it 353 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: and be like, if you need it, if you need 354 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: to get information out there, how else do you do it. 355 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: It's a tough situation to navigate, and like my sense was, 356 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: do I want to go around and have these tiny 357 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: little conversations and then like it comes out because yeah, 358 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 3: well the thing is we're on a television show. It's 359 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: going to come out to the masses anyway, So the 360 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 3: fifteen twenty people that were there, it's gonna get broadcast 361 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: to a lot more. Whether I do it on the 362 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: side or I do it in front of everybody, but 363 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: if it was the whole thing of like, I needed 364 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: the information out there to everyone so they can make 365 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 3: proper decisions. Yeah, it's a kind of a lose lose situation. 366 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: I guess the best way would have been just to 367 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: like not say it at all, but I felt like 368 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: it needed to be out there at the time. So 369 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: that's where we are. 370 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: So I'm going to ask you. I can't do it 371 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: the next day again. You probably not can remember. Remember 372 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: we were all back at the other hotel before we 373 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: went back for the last voting thing, and I said 374 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: to you in retrospect, now it's been twenty four hours, 375 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: are you glad you did it? Or would you not 376 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: do it again? Do you remember your answer? 377 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 3: I don't. I remember we're having coffee right there, like 378 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 3: over looking pool. Yes, yeah, I think I said you'll 379 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: get it in time, or if you don't have to 380 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: get it now, or something like that, but I don't 381 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 3: know what. 382 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you said you were glad you would do it again. 383 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you now, how many months later are 384 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 2: you glad you did it? 385 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: I don't live with the gress, Kathie. 386 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 2: Come on, you'll look back speaking of for Okay, you 387 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 2: know what you are just doing my interview, our interview 388 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 2: for us. Speaking of regrets, if you regret not going 389 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: with April back to our room. 390 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 3: Yeah no, Actually, if I go back and do things 391 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: over for sure, that's actually one thing I would change. 392 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 2: April April with me. I've got his number. 393 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 4: He made your day. 394 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: I have a question, though, do you really think you 395 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: were the actual villain or do you think there was 396 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: another villain that flew under the radar because you were there? 397 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 3: Hmm? Do I think it was an actual villain? 398 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 4: You don't have to name his name, but do you 399 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 4: think there really was? 400 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe I think it's tough to go back. 401 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: And like I wanted to name it names. 402 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: Well, actually, who are you thinking of? I'll tell you 403 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 3: if I were thinking the same thing, Susan. 404 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 4: No, I'm not thinking of anybody in particular. 405 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: But I think there was a few shadiness, a little 406 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: bit of shadiness going on, and you just happen to 407 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: be the one that they because you entered with that information. 408 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: Of course, everybody's gonna hate you. You're the villain. 409 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: I think that, like the in the moment, you get 410 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: such conflicting information. You're only unable to understand what's in 411 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: front of your face at that time, so then you 412 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 3: kind of get on defense mode. No, I think that everyone. 413 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: I mean, you can never know until you actually people 414 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: come out and say it. But I feel like, yeah, 415 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 3: maybe some people were putting on an act for the 416 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: cameras in a way. And the one thing with me 417 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 3: is like if I was active with the cameras, I 418 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 3: wouldn't come back and like blued and shut up, like 419 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: you know, what you see is what you're gonna get. 420 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: Who was acting. 421 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people have kind of have 422 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 3: this view of like when they get on TV and cameras, 423 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 3: the the real way they feel often doesn't come out come. 424 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: Out, like, for example, because they're they're. 425 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 4: Not proud of how they're really feeling or their thoughts. 426 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: Well, it could be different. I would say that there's 427 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: conversations that I've had across especially this season. I would 428 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 3: say we're like off camera, say a dead day, when 429 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 3: we're not filming, the way they feel about certain things 430 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 3: is very different. 431 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: Like give me an example, give me a name. 432 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 3: Give me a key, and I'm not throwing people in 433 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 3: the bus is six months. 434 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 2: Susan, He's not throwing people out of the bus, Sean, 435 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 2: you threw on national television. So this just a tiny 436 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 2: little podcast with ten listeners. 437 00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: There's twelve. 438 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: It wasn't just one person to the other. I think 439 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: it was. I can give you specifically, the way that 440 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: people felt towards the game off camera was much different 441 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 3: than the way they felt on camera about about the 442 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 3: money and like about what they're going to do. Also 443 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 3: interest in terms of like where people stood from like 444 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,239 Speaker 3: allegiance perspective, So there were certain certain elements to that 445 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 3: where like I watched. 446 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: That, I'm going to cry. 447 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: They didn't love me love Did that change the game 448 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: for you in any way? 449 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 4: When they brought the money into the game, Well. 450 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 3: I think the whole thing changed when it became like 451 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 3: a competition. Yeah. For me particularly, I was like, hell, yeah, 452 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: let's go. This is freaking amazing. I thought what would 453 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 3: suck for me? Like going through this is the first 454 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 3: season they did. It was like surprise about the money thing. 455 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 3: I didn't have anybody from Charity season on the beach 456 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: with me. I had no no one that I'm like 457 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: really close with. I had a couple of people drop 458 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: out last minute like Xavier and John b were supposed 459 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 3: to go on they dropped off last minute. If I 460 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: had those two guys on the beach. 461 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: Your guys, you feel a little stronger there. You felt alone. 462 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: She felt alone in the sense of like, hey, like 463 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: all these people are from the same season, or they're 464 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 3: like have a roommate. I did't even have a roommate. 465 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 3: So all like the the time at night when like 466 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: they're talking and like getting close to each other, I'm 467 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 3: in my bed by myself. 468 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 4: You had your own room. 469 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 3: I had my own room. At least you would come 470 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 3: over like when we match, you we would share a 471 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 3: room at that point. But like up until that point, 472 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: it was like I was alone. So it's great in 473 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 3: that sense, but when the element of the game comes 474 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 3: into play, it's actually disadvantage. 475 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 4: Yes it is, I will say. 476 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 2: I will say, Sean, you and your your you're continuing 477 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: to say what you said to me on the beach, 478 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: which is you looked at it very as a competition, 479 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: And what strategy do I, I, Sean, do I need 480 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 2: to enact here to have the best chance, best outcome 481 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: of winning. Like I think you really strategized, and I 482 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 2: think a lot of people it didn't appear that they 483 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: were strategizing as much as you were, and that's why 484 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 2: I think it'd gotten into trouble for you. But hey, 485 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 2: you know what, you left the beach without any money. 486 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 2: You left the beach with a woman. Now you don't 487 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: have her. So now we're just gonna jump right. 488 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 4: Here are your date now? 489 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: And who is she? And by the way, keet jealous 490 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: so carefully. 491 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean yeah, I didn't leave the beach 492 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 3: with money and left with the girl didn't work out. 493 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 3: You know, I'm like, I'm out there, I'm going on 494 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 3: dates nothing like no one like consistently in terms of 495 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: like we're that serious. But the thing that's tough for 496 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 3: me is I travel a lot. Like I was in 497 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 3: San Francisco for the Super Bowl a couple of weeks ago. 498 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 3: I go to La tomorrow. So there's a lot of 499 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 3: travel where the consistent dates become tough to build momentum, 500 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 3: I guess, so to speak. But I mean I've I 501 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: felt like when I got off the show and like 502 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: things went over with Alicia, and like the months after that, 503 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: I put a lot of pressure myself to like find 504 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 3: somebody and like go out there and go on a 505 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: bunch of dates and like me people, and I've kind 506 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 3: of taken that pressure off now and I feel like 507 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 3: whenever something happens, it'll be meant to be in a way. 508 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 3: And I feel like I operate way better when I 509 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: don't put pressure on myself in the dating sense, Like 510 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 3: let it be natural and be organic, not force anything. 511 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: I agree with that. Do you have a type? Is 512 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: there a certain one that catches your eye? Is it 513 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: a skinny, skinny girl like her? Or is it a 514 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: dark haired girl, a blonde Do you have a certain. 515 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 3: Or older women? 516 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're older women. 517 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 3: I think like the immediate eye catch for me is 518 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 3: like blonde hair, blue eyes, like active. I would say, So, 519 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: you know, I'm watching the Olympics right now and there's 520 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of cute girls on this. 521 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 3: Yeah they're all really good shape, They're great. I like 522 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 3: watching the people from Norway and Sweden. I'm like, oh 523 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 3: wow girls. 524 00:23:49,920 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're a very good look. So I'm guessing 525 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: no shortage of dates. 526 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean you know, it depends. I feel 527 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 3: like for me, like I'm on the apps, you know, 528 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 3: every now and again, and like I try set stuff up, 529 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: but I feel like all the the fun relationships I 530 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: get into and the people I meet, it's always out organically, 531 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: like it's always out and about. I'm at a bar, 532 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, you're really cute, like what's your name? 533 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: And then you hit it off and stuff like that. 534 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: Wait a second, I'm sorry, women, hold on, ye give 535 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: me your best You asked that I have one question before. 536 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: Give me your best pickup line, Sean, you're in a bar. 537 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: You see miss Sweden sitting sitting down the bar. 538 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: What you wearing your metal? 539 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? 540 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 3: Well, how much time to am I saying the bar 541 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 3: for a while or is it quick? Because there's two 542 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: different answers, two different answers, give them I want to hear. Okay, 543 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: So if I'm if I don't know if I'm gonna 544 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 3: be at the bar for a while and I have 545 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 3: one shot at it, so to speak, you go up 546 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 3: and this is kind of cheesy, but I'll go up 547 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 3: and be like, oh my god, it listen, it's so 548 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 3: good to see you. 549 00:24:59,160 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 4: And then. 550 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: She's like, oh my god, my name's on a list. 551 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I used to I know this, like 552 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 3: beautiful girl named the list. I'm so sorry. I'm sean, 553 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 3: nice to meet you, and usually like brings the tone 554 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 3: down and like she off guard a little bit. Oh, 555 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: this guy knows a beautiful girl named Melissa, and then 556 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 3: you know we have that. If it's not like immediate 557 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: like I have one, maybe I were at the bar 558 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 3: for a little bit, I'll like in passing, just be like, hey, hey, 559 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,239 Speaker 3: I really like your dresser, I like your purse, or 560 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: I like your shoes or something like that, and then 561 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: just walk away. Don't even like stay for a conversation, 562 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 3: just compliment and go by. And then if you're at 563 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 3: the point where it's like she's at the bar, like 564 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 3: thirty minutes, go by. The chances they come up to 565 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 3: you and say hey, like what's going on? Because they 566 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 3: keep thinking like why didn't he say and talk to me? 567 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 3: Why didn't ask her for my name? So there's a little 568 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 3: bit of a long game in that one. 569 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: So let me ask you something. Would you find it 570 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: odd if the woman came up to you and said, hey, 571 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: I find you very good looking? 572 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 4: Are you single? Are you what's your story? 573 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 3: No? I would love that. I think I would love it. 574 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, is that which which girl you're taking home 575 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 2: to mama? The one who comes up to you and says, 576 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: you know, I think you're really hot, and what how 577 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: whatever I mean say hot? Whatever, I like your I 578 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: like you, You're very attractive, whatever. 579 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 4: Stood out in the crowd. I'd like to know you. 580 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: Are you going after that girl or the girl that 581 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: you try to date. 582 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: Would it make a difference, we would make I mean, no, 583 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 3: one's me and my mom unless I truly get to 584 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 3: know him a little bit. So like I think I 585 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 3: would go and I would go on dates with any 586 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 3: of them. But obviously, what if you feel connected is 587 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: going to happen more of like an intimate setting where 588 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 3: you're going on a date, not as necessarily a crowded bar. 589 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 3: But i'd be I like, I like someone that's got 590 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 3: some balls too. If they want to come up and 591 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 3: approach me, that's awesome, Like I I way that cat. 592 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 4: I'm trying to tell Kathy. 593 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 2: So okay, I know it's going to come as a 594 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: shock to you. Sean and I are not dating in 595 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: the same age pool. Just a thought. 596 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 4: Who says, so you think you think older men or. 597 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: Make assumptions about who I'm dating. 598 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: You know that they would take that as oh my god, 599 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: you must be wild listen. 600 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 2: I tried it last week in California. It was a disaster. 601 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: Moving on, would you do Paradise again? 602 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. Everything I've done, I've had so 603 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 3: much fun filming, like, so much fun. I would say 604 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 3: that my interest in Paradise is very, very low at 605 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 3: this point. I would say I'm open to other ideas 606 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 3: in terms of shows, like I would love to do 607 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: something competition based. I would love to do something with 608 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 3: a little bit different element rather than dating. So yeah, 609 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm open to doing another experience like that. 610 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: I think Paradise like, I've done it so much. 611 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: So if you get something, will you bring me along 612 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: with you? 613 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 3: There might be something coming up here. There might be 614 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: something that. Yeah, there might be something coming up here. 615 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 4: Nobody called. 616 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 3: It's already like we already. 617 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 4: It sounds like you know something not not. 618 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 3: I don't think it's in the Bachelor universe, but there 619 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: is there might be something. I don't know when they're gonna. 620 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: But do you need my number? Do you need my number? 621 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 2: Are they calling me? 622 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: I think they might maybe for next year. I'd already filmed, 623 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: so yeah, see. 624 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 4: They're already done. 625 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: All right, tell me your thoughts on Taylor, Frankie Paul, 626 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. 627 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: I want to go back on our show. 628 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 4: Everybody is I can't wait to watch her. 629 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: You'll be watching I assume, right. 630 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: There is a part of me that, you know, just 631 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 3: with the franchise, like I'm done with this franchise. They're 632 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: really You're right back in. But there was a part 633 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 3: of me that I legitimately almost reached out to the producer. 634 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: So it's like, you gotta get me on the season, 635 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: like this is gonna be so much fun. Like and 636 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 3: then I thought back to myself, I'm like, I've done 637 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: three of these things. I don't know if I know. 638 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 4: Well, you know you are when you are in the bar. 639 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: Going back to just for a second, I never got 640 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: this in and you see somebody that you would like 641 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: to speak with. Do they recognize you? 642 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: Yes? 643 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: And no. 644 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 3: I think like the people that are approaching me typically 645 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 3: they recognize you, right, And like, I never go into 646 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 3: assumption of people know me because like the majority you 647 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: feel out there do not. It's just the ones that do. 648 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: But I've had experiences where, you know, I started talking 649 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: to someone and like two weeks go by and then 650 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: then it comes out that they had actually known me 651 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 3: the entire time, but they. 652 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: Kind of. 653 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 654 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: This one, this one girl I was like seeing for 655 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: a little bit. She she watched like my previous par 656 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 3: Paradise season with her parents before I even gone. Why, 657 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 3: I didn't even met them. And it wasn't We weren't 658 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 3: even that serious. We're just going on a few dates. 659 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 3: But she's like, yeah, my dad loves you on the show. 660 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 3: It's like, what do you mean, Like that's watching the 661 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 3: show right now? 662 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 4: Oh god? 663 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: And the fourth night would have been do you want 664 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: my ring size? 665 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, it was yeah. But it's cool. I mean, 666 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 3: like I think it's cool how you interact with people, like, 667 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 3: for example, like I think it's really fun and like 668 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: when people come up and say hello. When we were 669 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 3: in San Francisco this past weekend, Tana and I were 670 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 3: at a bar after the super Bowl and this guy 671 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 3: comes up to me. He's like, I know you do 672 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 3: you live around here? And I was like, no, I'm 673 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: in town. He's like, wait a second, you were on Paradise. 674 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 3: I'm friends with Keith, and he calls Keith and we 675 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 3: get on the phone with Keith right there. It was 676 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 3: like amazing that it was just like you know small. 677 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: Did you see on the internet Keith get down on 678 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 2: one knee? Uh In Carmel at the golf tournament proposed 679 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: to me. 680 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: He proposed. I thought he was just kind of shoe. 681 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: No he was, And there is the story of my 682 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: dating life and nutshell right there. So before we we 683 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: we're going to do an advice a couple of advice questions, 684 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: but just in general, anything you can share with us 685 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 2: now about what's coming up for you, what you're up to, 686 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: what he just anything that you can SHARE's something, yeah, 687 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 2: other than there's something. 688 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think people will see me, see me 689 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: soon on something going on different, different show completely, but 690 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 3: that's coming up should be I think it'll be now shortly. 691 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 3: I'm not necessarily necessarily sure when, but at some point 692 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 3: in the spring you'll see it, which will be amazing, 693 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 3: amazing experiens. I had so much fun. It was a blast. 694 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: So that was fun. But no, I want to I 695 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 3: want to hear about Carmel, Like, I'm very very upset 696 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: that I wasn't a part of that group. I love golf, 697 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 3: and I see all you guys hanging out having a blast. 698 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 3: I was so bummed. 699 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: I mean, of course, it's just you know, you go 700 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: there and you're hanging with all the batslor people. Not 701 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 2: everyone's there obviously, but just it's such a family. And 702 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: then to watch those golfers whole number eight. Let me 703 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: just tell you. My goal to play is just I 704 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: just want to play number eight and I want to 705 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: hit my drive number that over that cut in from 706 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, the gully I want 707 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: to drive. I mean, and I'm thinking if I could 708 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: work it out, No, No, I'm thinking just put my 709 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: ball like ten yards that's you know, the inside of 710 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: the gully and then hit it to the green. That's 711 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 2: what I want to do. 712 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: You got it. If you aren't think it, you can 713 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 3: do it for sure. I have faith. 714 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's to the university. 715 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: It was really fun. It rained on Wednesday the day 716 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 2: we went on the course. It was beautiful. You know, 717 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: it's it's paradise there. It just is. 718 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. I haven't been out that way, yeah, but it's 719 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 3: on my list. Tubble Beach is one of the places 720 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: that I gotta get out there. 721 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing, you know what. They have a lot of 722 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: their Sean. Before we get to advice, which we're about 723 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 2: to do. 724 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 4: Just keep trying to get it. 725 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: OUTE want you to go until you in some of 726 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 2: these I just have to tell you, do you know 727 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 2: what they have a ton of No? What beautiful blonde hair. 728 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 3: I'm going to book my flight right now. Let's let's 729 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 3: get out. 730 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: There alright on. 731 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 4: We need some of your advice. 732 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: What advice do you have to any guy that's single 733 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: right now? 734 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 3: What advice? I just put yourself out there. I think 735 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 3: the I think that people are so scared of rejection 736 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: nowadays and like going off and approaching people like I 737 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 3: feel like maybe it's just the dating apps, or maybe 738 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 3: it's just the online presence. Very little, I think very 739 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 3: little women are getting approached in person nowadays. I think 740 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 3: it's becoming. 741 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,719 Speaker 1: You're right and it's like if the picture's not right next, 742 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: or okay, you didn't talk right enough for me, Okay, 743 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: go with this one. 744 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 4: There's so much available to people right now. It's sad. 745 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 3: Well. I have like beautiful friends that are girls that 746 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 3: go out and they never get approached at all, and 747 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 3: it's like, why not just go home and say hi? 748 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: And they're thinking the same thing, like I wish the 749 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 3: guy would come approach me. I think the guys are thinking, Oh, 750 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't want to be rejected. 751 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 3: I don't want to say no. But like at the 752 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 3: end of the day, I just go up and say 753 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 3: hi and see where it goes. The worst is gonna 754 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 3: say is hey, I'm not interested, and then you walk away, 755 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 3: and then you're at a bar full of people and 756 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 3: there's other people talk to. 757 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 4: It, and nobody else heard it. You know, you have 758 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 4: to hear it. 759 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: Really, so this is great dating and advice. I hate 760 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 2: that we have to depart, we have to wrap this episode, 761 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: but I will say I have learned a lot. I'm 762 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 2: going to go hang out at bars and say hello 763 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 2: to ment and I just one rap to the other. Hey, 764 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: I like your purse. But okay, I just want to 765 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 2: thank all of our listeners. Please keep sending us your questions. 766 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: It's easy. We want your comments, your thoughts. All you 767 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 2: have to do is go to Bachelor nation dot com 768 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: slash Golden Hour, submit away. We really want to hear 769 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: from you. 770 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: Thank you, and listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour 771 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to your podcast. 772 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 4: See you next time.