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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on, Bring it on.

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Speaker 1: Paul caldc So. I think it was about fifteen years

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Speaker 1: worth or so. I did. This segment Danny was titled

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Speaker 1: Paul's Call and the premise of it was the premise

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Speaker 1: the best comedy because a lot of it wasn't sports.

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Speaker 1: It was just the absurdities of life. But it was

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Speaker 1: to say it was real soundbites. Praise Paul so as

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Speaker 1: I scan the landscape here as of this recording of

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Underground brought to you by Pacific Office Automation, Paul

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Speaker 1: KELVC Dannis Darren Urban over there. I mean, if the Browns,

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Speaker 1: did you see this can replace the helmet in midfield

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Speaker 1: with Brownie the Elf? Really and by the way, those

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Speaker 1: who say it's a dead ringer for the keybler Elf,

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Speaker 1: you think that if Nathaniel Hackett can send Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: all of Twitter to agree on one thing which rarely happens,

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Speaker 1: that you just paid them all that money and you

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Speaker 1: traded away all those picks and players and you sent

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Speaker 1: in a kicker who's now one for eight and sixty

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Speaker 1: plus yard field goal attempts in his career. If that

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Speaker 1: can happen, and speaking of kickers, if the Chiefs can

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Speaker 1: send out safety Justin Reed to kick an extra point

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Speaker 1: and then blast a kick off through the uprights, then

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Speaker 1: you know what, your darn tune, we can do this

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Speaker 1: addition to Cardinal's Underground over here? Can we not? Danny?

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Speaker 1: I guess we have no choice. Paul. You're not in

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Speaker 1: a great moon, are you. I'm not sure how that

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Speaker 1: exactly paralleled there if those things happen. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure we would have done Cardinals Underground this week

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Speaker 1: even if all those things had not happened. So let's

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Speaker 1: good right out of the gates. Darren's dissenting as usual,

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Speaker 1: living up to scutter report and then but Danny, Danny,

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Speaker 1: you're defining the scutter board usually, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I feed off your positivity, but not today. I'm sorry, Paul.

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Speaker 1: It's not personal. I don't recommend moving apartments right when

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Speaker 1: the season is starting, So my frustrations do not have

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Speaker 1: rare Darren. But yes, when we all sat down, I

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Speaker 1: at least a week. They were trying to get me

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Speaker 1: I'm going to focus on the here and now, Paul,

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Speaker 1: So not worried about my lack of internet. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about Cardinals football. We're all learning another day, another lesson learned.

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Speaker 1: You know those two things you really shouldn't do when

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Speaker 1: the season commences. One change apartments to start documentaries from scratch.

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Speaker 1: All right, So the Cardinals fall to the Chiefs in

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Speaker 1: Week one, forty four, twenty one, and there's sixth straight

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Speaker 1: or Kyler Darren Urban. Where would you like to start here?

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Speaker 1: As we commence with week two of the regular seas

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Speaker 1: I like to start. Where would you like to start?

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Speaker 1: How about back Saturday night and just redo the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: We can just start right there, start over. You know

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Speaker 1: and one of my questions was, do you take the film,

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Speaker 1: But unless you're going to get the requisite energy, intensity

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Speaker 1: two because what I think is what happened to the

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Speaker 1: just Patrick Mahomes being Patrick Mahomes and creating something out

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Speaker 1: So even though you're not going to be playing other

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Speaker 1: these are all definite problems? Well, once again, until I

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Speaker 1: Joseph and company. What comes from being undermanned, for example

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Speaker 1: the old line, what comes from having the wrong man

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Speaker 1: on the job if you just don't have the right

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Speaker 1: player in the right spot. You know. So those are

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Speaker 1: some of the things that you use the film to

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Speaker 1: figure out. And if there are guys playing who aren't ready, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, it's to your point, Danny.

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Speaker 1: This schedule is extremely real and it's and you're going

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Speaker 1: to go up on the road. Now. The good news

435
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Speaker 1: is a year ago you went eight and one on

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Speaker 1: the road. Because what is going on at home? I

437
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: have no idea six straight home losses and if there

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Speaker 1: is one combat denominator and most of those six straight

439
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Speaker 1: home losses, I'll tell you what. The energy has definitely

440
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Speaker 1: been better in the intensity on the sideline on the

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Speaker 1: road than at home. For whatever reason, they need to

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Speaker 1: get some sage and get out the bad mojo. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, you know, but that offensive line, Paul,

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Speaker 1: you have Sean Harlow who understands this offense has that

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Speaker 1: versatility and without trying to sound like I'm minimizing every

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Speaker 1: individual position on the offensive line and how they work

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Speaker 1: as a whole from what this group went through last

448
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Speaker 1: year having so many backups playing at the same time

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Speaker 1: to have to plug in one player on the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, I don't know the number. It seemed like

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Speaker 1: he was still under pressure a good amount of time

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Speaker 1: like that. That to me is not just a Sean

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Speaker 1: Harlow thing. I don't know if that's we We really

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Speaker 1: don't know the answer of why center Rodney Hudson didn't

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Speaker 1: really practice throughout training camp. We just don't know. He

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Speaker 1: had that errant snap of them of them, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it just looked better He's played Betters and the and

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Speaker 1: the way the offensive line looked to me is not

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Speaker 1: because of having Sean Harlow in who was technically your

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Speaker 1: third guard left guard. I guess now second, with Cody

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Speaker 1: Ford being on I R for the first four weeks,

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Speaker 1: with Justin pubing out with that next singer, that to me,

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Speaker 1: the issues weren't because of your left guard. That was

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Speaker 1: the offensive line as a whole, so look, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and you knew Steve Spagnola was going to bring the blitz.

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Speaker 1: They were going to bring the rusher. Sometimes they didn't

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Speaker 1: need to because Chris Jones was wrecking ball in the middle.

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Speaker 1: What was intriguing was, did you see the analytics that

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Speaker 1: vance Joseph blitz Patrick Mahomes fifty four percent of his

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Speaker 1: past attempts, which is the highest in mahomes career. The

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Speaker 1: typical blitz rate against Mahomes because defensive coordinators are typically

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Speaker 1: low with the blitz, Mahomes was about twenty four percent,

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Speaker 1: and the Cardinals blist him fifty four percent of the time.

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Speaker 1: And wait, because he could always get worse it does

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Speaker 1: they never got home zero sacks. I'd be curious to

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Speaker 1: know how many of those blitz has happened in the

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Speaker 1: first quarter or on the first drive, because from what

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Speaker 1: I was watching, I don't think I think they were

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Speaker 1: trying to avoid the blitzing early, and I think he

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Speaker 1: may have turned to it when it was clear that

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Speaker 1: not turning to it was going to really mess you up.

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Speaker 1: Because I saw so many, so many, so much criticism

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Speaker 1: advanced Joseph NFL Twitter analysts, people that were like, how

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Speaker 1: could you blitz Patrick Mahomes. That's crazy. You're you're gonna

485
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Speaker 1: get diced up. But I'm like they were already getting

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Speaker 1: diced up. I think when they started doing it. I

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Speaker 1: could be wrong, but it sure looked to me like

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Speaker 1: it was an attempted adjustment because nothing was gonna go

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Speaker 1: right otherwise. Yeah, here it is right now. His next

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Speaker 1: Gen stats actually said he got blitzed on over half

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Speaker 1: of his past attempts Mahomes fifty four percent overall, and

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Speaker 1: that was a first in his career. And he threw

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Speaker 1: a career high four touchdown passes against the blitz in

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Speaker 1: a single game. That's what they calculated. On the other hand,

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Speaker 1: Darren and I honestly don't know. I'm not watching the

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Speaker 1: film and I'm not tracking how many times they brought numbers.

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Speaker 1: But I will say that a number of players, including

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Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson in the Big Red Rage, if you're read

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Speaker 1: between the lines going into the game, said they could

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Speaker 1: not let Mahomes just stand in the pocket. They had

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Speaker 1: to get to Mahomes. You know, you have to be

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Speaker 1: ultra aggressive. And I think there was advanced Joseph quote

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Speaker 1: when he met the media at saying yeah, we're going

504
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Speaker 1: to go down swinging where we're gonna be ultra aggressive.

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Speaker 1: So you know, this all goes back to again. We'll

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Speaker 1: put it this way. If four touchdown passes were against

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Speaker 1: the blitz, that would indicate that at least they blitzed

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Speaker 1: at times in that first second quarter. Well, now that's true.

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Speaker 1: You know, I will say this, I don't. I mean,

510
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Speaker 1: what was one of our concerns where is the pass

511
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Speaker 1: rush going to come from? And Marcus Golden didn't even

512
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Speaker 1: play thirty snaps in the game, So I guess the

513
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Speaker 1: toll was a thing because that was you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: or is conditioning? Maybe? I don't. I tend to believe

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Speaker 1: the former. I really do. And I will say this,

516
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: and props to Marcus for getting that contract that we

517
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Speaker 1: wondered about. Um, when the most snaps coming from your

518
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,479
Speaker 1: outside linebackers is from a guy on the practice squad,

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00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: that's a red flag to me. Devonkard, Yeah, you have

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Speaker 1: thirty five snaps. That's the most of any outside linebacker.

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Speaker 1: I did not realize that. Let me let me ask

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Speaker 1: you guys a question about this. Looking at the defense.

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Speaker 1: You know we've talked about how after week one of

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Speaker 1: the regular season, you can bring in a veteran and

525
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Speaker 1: then a free agent veteran and then there their salary

526
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Speaker 1: is not guaranteed. Yes, knowing hoping, you know, being told

527
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Speaker 1: at cornerback Antonio Hamilton dealing with the burns on his

528
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Speaker 1: legs and feet, Cliff Kingsbury saying earlier in the week

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Speaker 1: that he might be ready for football stuff soon. He's

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Speaker 1: out for at least the first four weeks. But let's

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Speaker 1: think about having Antonio Hamilton back soon. Tray Von Mullin

532
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: who didn't play, dealing with a toe injury, hopefully back soon.

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Speaker 1: He's on on IR. If you're going to bring in

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Speaker 1: a veteran, are you still looking at cornerback or are

535
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Speaker 1: you now seeing who's out there that could help you

536
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Speaker 1: in your pass rush. I'm looking at everything right now,

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Speaker 1: especially the way the defense goes, and let me I

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Speaker 1: just want to clarify something because I've noticed that Cliff

539
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Speaker 1: is kind of intimated a couple of times about Antonio Hamilton,

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Speaker 1: and the reality is is if you're if you have

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Speaker 1: to miss four games, if you're talking about coming back,

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Speaker 1: it would he would have to go. It would be

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Speaker 1: working on the side. I'll buy himself. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: feel like a couple of times Cliff's comments make it

545
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Speaker 1: sound like he could jump back into practice, maybe even

546
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Speaker 1: come back into games. He's absolutely out the first four

547
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Speaker 1: games and he is not eligible to practice with a

548
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: team until that is over. So it's just like I

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Speaker 1: was wondering the first time he said that, I'm like,

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00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: wait about what am I misunderstanding? Well, he's got the

551
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: same rules, So like, I mean, it's good news if

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Speaker 1: he can come back and do some stuff like get

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Speaker 1: his conditioning up and stuff like that, But in terms

554
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Speaker 1: of like dropping him in in a game or even

555
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Speaker 1: having him practice, that's not going to happen. So and

556
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Speaker 1: look in terms of the guys that are going to

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Speaker 1: come back at some point, whether it's DeAndre Hopkins or

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Speaker 1: Rondelle Moore, j J. Watt and Antonio Hamilton, Trayvon Mall

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Speaker 1: and I get it. But if you're asking me, my

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Speaker 1: biggest concern right now, thanks for asking, is the fact

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Speaker 1: that they might be missing the most a guy who

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Speaker 1: will never return, and that's Jordan Hicks. That when Cliff

563
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Speaker 1: Kingsbury says to the media about Patrick Mahomes giving them

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Speaker 1: a lot of props and praise and then adding but

565
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Speaker 1: too many times we just made it really easy for

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Speaker 1: him end quote. And then you look at the communication

567
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Speaker 1: issues there were on that side of the ball that

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Speaker 1: Nick Vigil talked about, and you know, you just didn't

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Speaker 1: have a sound defense. Forget about whether they were talented

570
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Speaker 1: or not if you're not lined up correctly. And as

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Speaker 1: Kyle Vannabosh said, there were too many times where Kansas

572
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Speaker 1: City was in motion and the Cardinals were still trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out where and how to fit a certain

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Speaker 1: play in the way Kansas City was running it. You

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Speaker 1: have no chance at that point, and the Nick Vigil

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Speaker 1: said it as much. So is it correctable? Sure? Do

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Speaker 1: you have the personnel capable of correcting it? Do you

578
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Speaker 1: have two young inside linebackers and or starbacker? Are those

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Speaker 1: guys really capable of all of a sudden being that

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Speaker 1: adept at calling a defense. Where's a guy like Nick

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Speaker 1: Vigil have to step in and play more reps just

582
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Speaker 1: in this for the sake of getting the defense set

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00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: pre snap Vans Joseph said last week, it has to

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00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: be somebody who's out there all the time. And that's

585
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: still I mean, you could still do Jalen Thompson or

586
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: boot A Baker, except when they're playing center field safety.

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00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: That makes it real difficult. I don't disagree. I mean again,

588
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: you're trying to juggle some things. And you know we've

589
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: had the Hicks conversation before. I mean there are there's

590
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Speaker 1: a given a take, and if they felt like Jordan

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Speaker 1: Hicks as a player, it's it's great to have somebody mentally,

592
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: but i mean, hell, then just have Vance Joseph come

593
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: back to the league and play linebacker. He'll be able

594
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Speaker 1: to get him all lined up real good. He's not

595
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: gonna be able to stop anybody, no offense. Vans Well,

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00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: that was Larry Foote's last year. Basically, That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like, there's probably a million guys who can go

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Speaker 1: out and get everybody lined up right, but you gotta

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Speaker 1: get somebody who actually can play football after the ball

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Speaker 1: snap too. And I get it, I really do, and

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Speaker 1: I understand it. And the future are the two first

602
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Speaker 1: round linebackers. I'm just saying the growing pains might be

603
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: a little more severe and learning on the job might

604
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: last a little longer than maybe we all anticipated. And

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Speaker 1: while this is when you look at the numbers, I

606
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Speaker 1: think the second oldest team in the league. It's kind

607
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Speaker 1: of skewed when you look at some of those veterans

608
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Speaker 1: that have been in the league for so long, because

609
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: this team is pretty young on the players they're relying on, Paul,

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Speaker 1: especially when you look at that defense to your point,

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Speaker 1: of those two young linebackers and Isaiah Simmons and Zaven Collins,

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00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: Christian Matthew Marco Wilson still only in his second year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what was Cliff's joke He said, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's because our old guys are really old. Yeah, So

615
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: it throws it off. You're having to rely on this

616
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Speaker 1: young depth, more so on the defense than the offense,

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Speaker 1: and that's not an easy thing to do. All right,

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Speaker 1: So how about a couple of twenty five year olds,

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Speaker 1: Kyler and Hollywood Brown. What can the Cardinals do to

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Speaker 1: get that connection rolling? Get it on track now, getting

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Speaker 1: down you know fourteen? Nothing right out of the gates

622
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: obviously would help because it makes a lot easier for

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Speaker 1: them to play those shell coverages and get away with

624
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: it like Kansas City did. But yeah, I think everyone's

625
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: still anticipating the Cardinals to get a lot more production

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Speaker 1: out of Kyler or to Hollywood, Right, Darren didn't they.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I certainly would expect that. I mean, again,

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Speaker 1: going back to what you said earlier, I mean Greg Dortch,

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Speaker 1: all due respect to Greg Dorsch, Greg Dortch can't be

630
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Speaker 1: your leading receiver. He can't, not with what you have now.

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Speaker 1: Zach Ertz was limited in his snaps. I do think

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Speaker 1: he'll be more of a part of the passing game.

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Speaker 1: But I do think there were times early in the

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Speaker 1: game where Kyler being under pressure or whatever the situation was,

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Speaker 1: that he just didn't have a chance to look at

636
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: zach Ertz very much. You gotta get Hollywood more involved.

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Speaker 1: You'd like to see Aj Green a little bit more involved.

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00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: And again, where are we standing? I didn't look at

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00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: it enough, but like, where's the separation? That was the

640
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: big thing last year was I remember seeing stats and

641
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: the separation of the Cardinals wide receivers was among the

642
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: worst than the league. Is it has it gotten better?

643
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. And what was interesting

644
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: is looking at these young players you bring up zach Ertz,

645
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: your top two draft picks were inactive tight end Trey McBride,

646
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: two of your three, two of your three. Sorry we're yeah,

647
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: because Cam Thomas played, But my j Sanders, my JA

648
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. Y of if you have Marcus

649
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: Golden back and you're elevating Davonknard from the practice squad,

650
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: that doesn't surprise me. It's very surprise when the inactives

651
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: list came out about ninety minutes before kickoff and Trey

652
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: McBride was on there. So your three tight ends were

653
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: Zach Ertz, Max Williams, and Steven Anderson for special teams.

654
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: And then after the game, Kingsbury saying that he just

655
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: didn't think McBride mentally was there yet. But here's I'd

656
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: like to make this point because and I could have

657
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: tweeted it out, I didn't. Obviously a lot of people

658
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: were frustrated Tray McBride being inactive, and I understand that,

659
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying it's a great thing, But I

660
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: want to bring up a couple of things. Number One,

661
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: Stephen Anderson clearly as a guy that they're going to

662
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: trust on special teams. You look at the special team snaps.

663
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: Darryl Williams, who didn't play an offensive snap, played fifteen

664
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Speaker 1: special team snaps. There was fourteen for Jonathan Ward, thirteen

665
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 1: for Eno Benjamin thirteen for Steven Anderson. So those guys

666
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: are up for a reason. The Trey McBride thing. Context matters,

667
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: and I know, you know nobody. I think when the

668
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: draft happened, there were some serious concerns about Max williams

669
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: viability of playing, and you take a tight end because

670
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: you want to make sure that you're you're you have

671
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: a third tight end that can be pretty good, and

672
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: you had him high on your board. Now it turns

673
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: out Max Williams is available, and with the way things

674
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: have filtered out, Max Williams can give you enough. It's

675
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: not like Max Williams or Steven Anderson played a bunch

676
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: offensive snaps. Max Williams played ten, Steven Anderson played nine

677
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: and was even with zach Ertz being limited. Now, I'm

678
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: sure part of that was because you got behind your

679
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: throwing a little bit more, maybe using extra receivers. But

680
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: I do think the Tray McBride pick what some of

681
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: the thinking was Max Williams at the time, and even

682
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: Max Williams next year, I'm not you know, Max Williams

683
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: on one year deal. I would not be surprised if

684
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: he's not around in twenty twenty three. So some of that.

685
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: I know, people get upset, but that's I think some

686
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: of the thinking that changes again when you go from

687
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: April to September and where they are with injuries and

688
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: some of the guys that they might have on the field,

689
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: and big picture, zach Ertz is going to be thirty

690
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: two in two months, so yeah, you know, just uh

691
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's a loaded tight end room at the moment.

692
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: And we'll see, you know, at some point, Tray McBride

693
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: will get his role and he'll get his his snaps.

694
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: But it goes beyond that. Right now, not all that does,

695
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: you know. It's getting that running game and gear. It's

696
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: getting that, you know, it's it's Eno Benjamin telling the

697
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: media that they're going to spend more time than running

698
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: backs with the offensive line and trying to sync things

699
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: up in the run game and the run blocking up front.

700
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: It's keeping Kyler with a clean pocket. We mentioned all

701
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: those hurries by Kansas City, three different players with five

702
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: hurries or more in the game, so it was constant. Now,

703
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: his escapability and his athleticism. They only brought him down twice.

704
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: But when you're disrupting the time into these past plays

705
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: and Kyler constantly has his head on a swivel, and

706
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: one time he nearly got taken off by the corner blitz.

707
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: So these are all factors that you hope to remedy.

708
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: I'd be curious what your guys thought it. I actually

709
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: thought Kyler played decently. I thought he played better than average,

710
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: And there was some analytic out there where like he

711
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: was among the top three or four passers in Week

712
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: one in terms of accuracy, you know, balls that were

713
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: thrown to the right spot and on the right time.

714
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, they have a lot of bigger problems than

715
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray now, as he played better, absolutely, but overall,

716
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: I mean at halftime, Cliff Kingsbury said, and I'm loosely quoting,

717
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: Kyler's not at the problem. We need to clean things

718
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: up around him. If you would have told me that

719
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: this team would have come into the first game of

720
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: the year and not turned the ball over and lost

721
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: by twenty plus points, I would have been like, really,

722
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: you know what else we learned though there's really only

723
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: one RB two. You know, Benjamin and Darry Williams were

724
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: both on the depth chart as that sunk at running back,

725
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: and it was all you know, Benjamin and if I

726
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: don't know if that was the game plan. I don't

727
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 1: know if that's how the game ended up shaking out

728
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: and how you were using Darryl Williams. But it makes

729
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: me wonder if if you've got five running backs and

730
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: if this is the plan, Darryl Williams, you know, Benjamin's

731
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: your number two, Williams is more of that special teams?

732
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: Do you need Daryl Williams and Jonathan Ward if the

733
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: plan would be to really just use that running back

734
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,959
Speaker 1: on special teams, it's a valid question. There's no doubt

735
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: they're probably holding on to that fifth running back just

736
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: in case, maybe just maybe another team isn't an entire

737
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: need of a backup running back, perhaps and you get

738
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: something in return. I'm sure if somebody made them an offer,

739
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: a Day three draft pick of some sort, yeah, they'd

740
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: be willing to part with one of those running backs.

741
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: It's going to be fascinating to see. I mean, they

742
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: got a lot of guys on ir that are going

743
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: to come back, and it's going to be fascinating because

744
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: if when those guys come back, somebody has to go,

745
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: and you know, you're gonna have to be probably smart

746
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: with how that moves around, and as much as they'll

747
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: like Kianta Ingram, he was the nineteenth running back taken

748
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: in the draft. So what sort of market is there

749
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: for Kianto Ingram? Is is a team immediately going to

750
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: pounce on kiant to Ingram. That might be a risk

751
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: they're willing to take to see if they can get

752
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 1: him to the practice squad for example. Just looking ahead

753
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: on that on that front. Well, once again, getting back

754
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: to pass protection, what do you expect, Daron on Chandler Jones?

755
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: What do you think? What? What? What's coming? Is a

756
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: hurricane Chandler coming on Sunday? Haboob Chandler up there in

757
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: the desert, in the Vegas desert coming on Sunday. You know,

758
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: It's that's always an interesting thing because a guy like

759
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: that sometimes it backfires when you you go all out

760
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: to get three sacks against your former team. So maybe

761
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: they can see him as aggressive and use that against him.

762
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: I go back to what you said earlier, which I

763
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: agree on. Now, Chandler Jones knows DJ Humphreys really well,

764
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: but hump knows Chandler Jones really well, and they all

765
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: know Chandler Jones really well. It reminds me a little

766
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: bit of Pete Carroll talking about Russell Willison. They were

767
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: trying to push him to his left because they had

768
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: all the stats over the years about how much worse

769
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: he plays throwing on the move to his left. I mean,

770
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's ways you can figure out how to

771
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: neutralize Chandler Jones. Now you've got a guy on the

772
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: other side and Max Crosby that you can't just ignore.

773
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 1: And if you put all your eggs in the Chandler

774
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: Jones basket, what does Max Crosby do? And I think

775
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: at this point in their careers, Max Crosby's a better player,

776
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting Danny to see how he deals

777
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: with it and how that all filters out. And I

778
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: think a little more disruptive as a hole than Chandler Jones,

779
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: not to say he's not a disruptive player by any means.

780
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: You know those big numbers, But Crosby is all over

781
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: the ball all over. So the fact that you've got

782
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: both of them lined up together on opposite sides is

783
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: not going to be an easy task for Beecham and

784
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: Hernandez on that right side against Crosby. By the way,

785
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: the Raiders had no sacks, no takeaways, and that loss

786
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: against the LA Chargers in their season open, or they

787
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: have a new defensive coordinator, Patrick Graham, whereas Khalil Mack

788
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: and that Chargers front seven, they were dynamic. They had

789
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: six sacks, they had a couple of striped sacks. They

790
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: had three interceptions at Derek Carr. I mean, you give

791
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert a legit defense and look out the LA

792
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: Charges and they still only won by five points. So

793
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: that's true. They had a chance at the end. Derek

794
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: Carr and the Raiders had a chance at the very end.

795
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: So we'll see. But what was interesting was what Josh

796
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: McDaniels had to say after the game. This easily to

797
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: me could have been Cliff Kingsbury when I read the

798
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: following quote, learning how to win is not something you

799
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: get to carry over from one year to the next

800
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: as a coach or a team. That's something you have

801
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: to acquire through work, preparation and habits. I really believe

802
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 1: that end quote. Josh McDaniels, see I I and we've

803
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: talked about this before because I heard Dave Pash going

804
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: on the radio talking about how that first game felt

805
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: like week nineteen. But see, I don't I don't think

806
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: there's carry over. I just don't. I mean, I think

807
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: every year is a different year. And it's interesting that

808
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: he brings up the learning to win, and I think, again,

809
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: the Raiders are going to be desperate. But if you

810
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 1: have a more desperate team this week in the NFL

811
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 1: than the Arizona Cardinals, then the Arizona Cardinals are doing

812
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 1: something wrong in my opinion. By the way, there wasn't

813
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: much of a run game established by the Chargers. Max

814
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: Crosby had those eight run stops and so yeah, the

815
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: Raiders defense least was stout in that regard. So how

816
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: about the stadium. Stadium is gonna be pretty cool to

817
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: check out, especially since they modeled a lot of it

818
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: after State Farm Stadium and the Cardinals, right down to

819
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: the field track. We were supposed to be there, Paul,

820
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: that's right. I was up there in February for the

821
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Yeah, yeah, it's no, it's it's beautiful. It's

822
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Um like a lot of natural sunlight. Um,

823
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: It's it's really beautiful. I will say. Being up in

824
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: the press box, it's interesting. Most press boxes have the

825
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: glass in front of you when it's noise canceling, and

826
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: this was not the case the press boxes. It's open,

827
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 1: and so you lean over and you are within arms

828
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: distance of whoever's got that seat right below you. Um

829
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: not complaining, but you know you're up. You're up there

830
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: in the rafters. So it's to see the video board

831
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: and stuff. At least where we were sitting was not

832
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: necessarily easy. But it is a very beautiful stadium and

833
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: it'll be exciting to go and have the Cardinals play.

834
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: There are there going to be any social media pictures

835
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: or videos of any of the travel crew up and

836
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: down the strip Nashville. Excuse me, I think he's talking

837
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: about you, Darren. I don't think I'm going out this weekend.

838
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: Same yeah, right, exactly. Wow. Now we got some coach

839
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: speak here, that's what we got right now. I mean

840
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: we got to read through the lines. I mean it'll

841
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: be it'll be a game time decision if I go

842
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: out on That's exactly what it'll be. Oh my goodness. Okay,

843
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: all right, I don't know you know that pack you

844
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: run with Danny, They're not gonna It's not my fault.

845
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: It's not my fault. I'm here pressure, I'll be honest

846
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: with you, I don't know. I thought I was gonna

847
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: get a little more vitriol out of you. Guys. You're

848
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: you're you're taking the week one beat down a little

849
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: better than I thought. Um, you know obviously, you know

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Speaker 1: you've both been there and done that and covered this

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Speaker 1: league long enough. You're not You're not overreacting at all.

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Speaker 1: There's no overreaction Cardinals underground. Addition, after week one here,

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Speaker 1: there's sixteen more games. I was gonna say, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if the vitriol is going to change the outcome.

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Speaker 1: I know I was wondering tweeting at me on Sundays, think, so,

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Speaker 1: what are you hearing? It's what are you hearing? You

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Speaker 1: don't want to talk about, you don't want to tell,

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Speaker 1: you can't rate. It's a family podcast, you can't share. Paul.

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Speaker 1: As we sit here in the podcast studio and they've

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Speaker 1: got some highlights from the Monday night football game with

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Speaker 1: Seattle and Denver, I got to ask, is are you

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Speaker 1: going to take advantage of probably the only time you

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Speaker 1: can say, uh, first place Seahawks right, that really does stink,

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Speaker 1: you know, if they would have lost, if they would

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Speaker 1: have actually let Russ cook and on fourth and five.

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Speaker 1: Then yeah, we could still go with our last place

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Speaker 1: Seahawks from a year ago, because everybody would place le

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Speaker 1: Broncos got their own hashtag. Let hashtag, let Russ kick.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see about the returns on that on

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Speaker 1: that one time you want Russell Wilson to win. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's by the way, about how about the forty nine ers?

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Speaker 1: How about how about the end of the the last season.

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Speaker 1: Was the end of the last season? It was? It

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Speaker 1: was the off season when I won on forty nine

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Speaker 1: Ers Radio KNBR and I was given them. They were

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Speaker 1: giving us a hard time about something. So I returned

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Speaker 1: fire and I said, well, you sure given up three

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Speaker 1: first round picks to take Trey Lance when he could

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Speaker 1: have had Justin Fields and the where you were sitting

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Speaker 1: in the same draft. And the outrage from the San

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Speaker 1: Francisco hosts on forty nine Ers Talk Radio, all that's preposterous.

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Speaker 1: Are you getting They're not even in the same class

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance and Justin Fields? Really happened? To see what

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Speaker 1: happened on Sunday? And I get it the rain with

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Speaker 1: such but yeah, okay, we'll see giving up those three

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Speaker 1: first round picks I'm telling you, if you look at

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Speaker 1: the San Andreas fault, it doesn't directly go through Santa Clara,

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Speaker 1: but in a way it does. I'm gonna call it

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Speaker 1: the Jimmy Garoppolo fault because it's ready to be a

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Speaker 1: big fisher and divide the entire Niners organization and the

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Speaker 1: fan base. And there's a seven point oh trembler coming

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Speaker 1: real quick. As someone who's been into seven point zero,

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Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty nine and more Creator earthquake, I'm here

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Speaker 1: to tell you there's an earthquake coming to the Bay

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Speaker 1: Area and it's that Jimmy g fault that's just in

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Speaker 1: the extension off the San Andreas, like the Hayward fault

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Speaker 1: that ran through Berkeley when we got hit back in

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Speaker 1: eighty nine. Where were you in the eighty nine one

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Speaker 1: was in a safe way ask me where I was?

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Speaker 1: You were not born? You just you know, it's one thing.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing to pose the question, it's another thing

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Speaker 1: to rock that small into a mile on her face. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I had to. I made the mistake of in a

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Speaker 1: in a text group that I believe you were in, Danny. Yes,

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Speaker 1: of we were talking about at first it was what

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Speaker 1: everybody had as their current employment on Facebook, because Danny

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Speaker 1: might have forgotten to change some things, not the only one. God, Derek,

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Speaker 1: a second, you don't get to say anyway to move on.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know to show you how like little

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Speaker 1: I use Facebook. Someone had to show me how to

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Speaker 1: go and change your bio because I didn't even know

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Speaker 1: how to change my place of employment. And I was

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Speaker 1: not the only employee on a former NFL team still

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Speaker 1: on their face. So Trump, Yeah, but I'm not buying that.

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Speaker 1: In No, she was the social media director for like

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Speaker 1: forty eight hours. She doesn't even know how to change

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Speaker 1: things on Facebook. No, I'm not. That's not flying. But

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Speaker 1: I I screen grabbed mine and I said, it's it's

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Speaker 1: easy to make sure that you have the right job

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Speaker 1: on yours when you have been in the same job

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Speaker 1: since before you had Facebook, which I've been around long enough.

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately it also had on there my high school

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Speaker 1: graduation year and the rest of this group that was

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Speaker 1: in in the text chain or all. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think they just learned how to drive. So sorry, Craig, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's all. Yeah, the bio has been updated right

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Speaker 1: all right. By the way, I redefined express Lane, is

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Speaker 1: what I did. I was in the aisle with all

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Speaker 1: the jarred Italian like the spaghetti sauce and like the salsas,

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Speaker 1: and it came down like the crap out of you. Though.

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Speaker 1: It was terrifying. The lights went out. The lights went out.

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Speaker 1: It was it sounded like, um, have you ever oh

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Speaker 1: my god, this is this is a really dangerous. Have

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Speaker 1: you ever seen the movie Dances with Wolves with Kevin

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Speaker 1: Costner And the sound of the herding buffalo came before

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Speaker 1: you were born, the herding buffalo and just that sound.

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Speaker 1: It was a cross between herding buffalo and an oncoming train.

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Speaker 1: That's what it sounded like when the lights went out.

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Speaker 1: You had no idea at first what it was. And

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Speaker 1: then I realized, because I've been in enough small earthquakes, earthquake,

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Speaker 1: and I flung the little handy toote and redefined express

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Speaker 1: lane and I was out. And as I look back,

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Speaker 1: the shells came down, all the jarred goods. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there were women screaming, there were kids crying. It it

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Speaker 1: was pretty crazy. Then you went back and turned on

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Speaker 1: the TV when I got home, and every single station

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Speaker 1: was knocked off the air. It was snow except for

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Speaker 1: channel five KPI XCBS, which had a helicopter in the

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Speaker 1: air because it was rush hour traffic five h four

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Speaker 1: pm in October seventeenth, and there was the iconic shot

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Speaker 1: of the Bay Bridge busted. So there you go. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that was a post that was just came off of

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Speaker 1: the nine eleven. No one needed that anniversary, and that

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Speaker 1: was in my head. Now I'm rethinking of all this stuff,

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Speaker 1: all this stuff that happened before you were born, there, Danny,

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Speaker 1: but not my demographic. This morphed into a history lesson.

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Speaker 1: This is what it did. So what happens when you

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Speaker 1: get old guys? Yeah, all right, we'll see, we'll see,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, you can't have another result like

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Speaker 1: what happened in week one. That'll get all real quick.

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Speaker 1: I got although with earthquakes and terrorist attacks that a

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Speaker 1: loss to the chiefs doesn't seem so bad. You're right,

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Speaker 1: and more than thousand point dropping the stock market today,

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Speaker 1: So yes, these things happen in threes and that'll do

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