Speaker 1: Wow, what's up everybody?
Speaker 2: Welcome into the NFL Fantasy Football Show. I'm not Marcus Grant.
Speaker 2: I'm Michael lef Floyal filling in for Marcus Grant leading
Speaker 2: the way right now. But me and Lakwan Jones, we
Speaker 2: are gonna be holding it down. Oh, I forgot to
Speaker 2: do Marcus's read. It's Wednesday, August fourteen, twenty twenty four
Speaker 2: where sleep is starting to become a luxury. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: is very true, especially for this guy. I can you
Speaker 2: catch him on GMFB every morning, bright and early. But yeah, Lakwan,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna get right into it. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of football stuff to talk about right now. JJ McCarthy
Speaker 2: under one a full meniscus prepair and is out for
Speaker 2: this season. So and at the time of recording, there
Speaker 2: is reports going around the internet right now that Jordan
Speaker 2: Addison was carted off and suffered a serious injury as well.
Speaker 2: We will await official word on that. But what does
Speaker 2: this mean now that it looks like it will be
Speaker 2: Sam Donald, what does this mean for the Vikings pass catchers? Man?
Speaker 3: I mean, this might be a rough season for these guys, because, honestly,
Speaker 3: how I'm looking at it is the universe is kind
Speaker 3: of doing its adjustment because we already kind of figured
Speaker 3: that JJ McCarthy was going to be on the bench
Speaker 3: for some time until Sam Donald struggled, But now that
Speaker 3: he's out for the season, it's kind of like, Man,
Speaker 3: we're stuck with Sam Donald. So I'm really curious to
Speaker 3: see if we're gonna get like a Ryan Tannehill to
Speaker 3: maybe sign. And the little mention of Jordan Addison, I
Speaker 3: mean we kind of were suspecting some type of suspension, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, hopefully he's okay, man, But honestly, this is
Speaker 3: rough for the Vikings and terrible for Vikings fans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was fading Jordan Addison already. But Justin
Speaker 2: Jefferson obviously is quarterback proof. And for those who don't
Speaker 2: believe me, he played four games without Kirk Cousins last season.
Speaker 2: He was on pace in those four games if you
Speaker 2: made it a seventeen game pace for a hundred eighty
Speaker 2: seven targets and over two thousand and two hundred yards.
Speaker 2: So Justin Jefferson is going to get his But I
Speaker 2: will say I I already was considering this much of
Speaker 2: the offseason, but I have just went ahead and did it.
Speaker 2: I have now moved aj Brown ahead of Justin Jefferson,
Speaker 2: so JJ is outside He's six, but he is outside
Speaker 2: of my top five wide receivers as of right now.
Speaker 2: But do you have any interests and look not, I
Speaker 2: don't want a standard one quarterback league answers, Probably no,
Speaker 2: but maybe not. Any interest in drafting Sam.
Speaker 4: Darnold absolutely not. I mean even in the superflex leagues
Speaker 4: that we're in.
Speaker 3: Man Like, I can't see myself drafting him because we
Speaker 3: kind of know what he is like. He's been the
Speaker 3: same type of guy since he's had his exit, you know,
Speaker 3: from the New York Jets, I mean Carolina Panthers. He
Speaker 3: had that small spur where he was able to be
Speaker 3: relevant the first four weeks and then he fell completely
Speaker 3: off of a cliff and then we never heard of
Speaker 3: him again. And now he's in a situation where the
Speaker 3: pressures on he has to be the top tier quarterback
Speaker 3: to be able to lift this team up if they're
Speaker 3: gonna be dealing with all these injuries, because we have
Speaker 3: to remember T. J. Hockinson's also coming back from injury.
Speaker 3: And now with this reporter Jordan Addison, what's really left
Speaker 3: of this offense other than Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2: That is a fair point. But I will raise you
Speaker 2: one Nick Mullins from last year. Nick Mullens, let me three.
Speaker 2: He started four games and one of them he threw
Speaker 2: for three or three and two and one. He through
Speaker 2: for four eleven and two and wan he through for
Speaker 2: three ninety six and two. Now there's lots of interceptions.
Speaker 4: He had more interceptions than the I'm about to say.
Speaker 2: I think Sam Darnold could be a very similar type
Speaker 2: of player where he puts up numbers because koc is
Speaker 2: going to dial up a lot of pass plays. They
Speaker 2: were the third highest pass rate in the NFL last year.
Speaker 2: But there's gonna be bad interceptions and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So in a one quarterback league, I'm not interested. But
Speaker 2: in a super flex I can get especially in one
Speaker 2: where I wait on my QB two, which is what
Speaker 2: I do. In super flex, me Will Levis and Sam
Speaker 2: Darnold as my QB two and I'll get by. I'll
Speaker 2: figure it out week. So it gonna be stressed, but
Speaker 2: be stressed that I will get by when those guys
Speaker 2: are having those fun yolo type of games. Uh, good
Speaker 2: news a little bit. No injury is good news. Jamier
Speaker 2: Gibbs suffered a string hamstring in practice, but Dan Campbell
Speaker 2: came out today and said he thinks that he's fine.
Speaker 2: He does not. It does not seem like week one
Speaker 2: is in question. So are you still comfortable using a
Speaker 2: first round pick on Jamior Gibbs.
Speaker 3: I'll say this if I'm on the back end of
Speaker 3: the first round, No, because there's likelihood that he might
Speaker 3: fall to you in the second round with this hamstring
Speaker 3: injury being a concern. So it's more so if, like
Speaker 3: I'm hoping league mates are kind of panicking right now
Speaker 3: and you let him get by in the first round
Speaker 3: and say you're at the one ten spot and that
Speaker 3: you get him at that two of three spot, I
Speaker 3: honestly think that's a win to where like I can
Speaker 3: pivot and grab that primary wide receiver that I really
Speaker 3: want on the back end because Gibbs there, He's making
Speaker 3: me have some hard choices back there because you have
Speaker 3: Pokin Nakoul, you have Garrett Wilson, but Gibbs is so
Speaker 3: so explosive where you want to have that ten touchdown
Speaker 3: season that he had last year. So I'm like looking
Speaker 3: at it like this may be a win if you
Speaker 3: have other league mats, so you should be jumping in
Speaker 3: your league mats DM, Like, Yo, did you see the
Speaker 3: Gibbs injury, Like that's what you should be doing right now.
Speaker 2: See to me, everything you just said I agree with.
Speaker 2: But I will always take the wide receiver in the
Speaker 2: first round because I feel like there's a big tier.
Speaker 2: And you can tell me if you disagree, But like
Speaker 2: I put Gibbs in the tier with Saquon, with Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 2: I'll even put like Kyen Williams, Derek Henry, and Za
Speaker 2: Pacheco in that team. Yeah, and I'm guarantee and Travis
Speaker 2: DTN and I'm guaranteed to get one of them in
Speaker 2: round two. I'm not guaranteed to get one of those
Speaker 2: top ten wide receivers with true ADP is shaking out.
Speaker 2: That is true.
Speaker 4: Definitely, that is definitely true. I didn't think about it
Speaker 4: that way. But hopefully, hopefully.
Speaker 3: In my home league, I can get Gibbs in my
Speaker 3: second round because I'm at the one ten spot.
Speaker 2: So yeah, let's get that gun. If you're in the
Speaker 2: Kwan's home leagues, take ten friends, listen, don't take them
Speaker 2: in the first round. I mean, everyone else, you could
Speaker 2: feel comfortable.
Speaker 3: My friends think I'm like on here playing fake and
Speaker 3: like I'm doing Hollywood stuff where I'm just lying about
Speaker 3: players that I like but I really hate.
Speaker 4: But no, they're not listening.
Speaker 2: It is the worst because everyone knows who you like
Speaker 2: going into drafts and they will make sure to grab
Speaker 2: them before it is your facts to select. Speaking of driving,
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Speaker 2: gonna talk handcuff running backs. So lakwan how handcuffs are
Speaker 2: always a hot button issue in fantasy right some people
Speaker 2: believe like I don't want to leave my drafts without
Speaker 2: my handcuffs. Other people are like, I'm gonna let my
Speaker 2: handcuffs sit out there, and I'm gonna grab other people's
Speaker 2: handcuffs and hope that their guys get hurt and not mine.
Speaker 2: How do you like to handle handcuff running backs and redraft?
Speaker 3: So in redraft, like it comes to situation where the
Speaker 3: handcuff needs to make sense, Like obviously, if you're gonna
Speaker 3: be risking it at all with Devon a Chan in
Speaker 3: those early rounds and you can get Raheem moster probably
Speaker 3: like four or five rounds later, why not make that
Speaker 3: handcuff so you can secure your situation here at the
Speaker 3: running back position, because honestly, you know my opinion, I've
Speaker 3: got on here and gotten them this mike enough to
Speaker 3: tell you that Devon a Chan is going to break
Speaker 3: a ton of hearts into twenty twenty four. So therefore,
Speaker 3: make yourself safe and get Raheem moster in those later rounds.
Speaker 3: So there's other situations where like Jamier Gibbs and David
Speaker 3: Montgomery that is a hot handcuff top topic, because like
Speaker 3: it feels like Monty might be going in the rounds
Speaker 3: where you like the wide receiver, so it makes it
Speaker 3: a little bit more difficult to.
Speaker 2: Pull that trigger. Good to call a handcuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's kind of what the situation is.
Speaker 3: Like, I feel like it's a Kareem Hunt and Nick
Speaker 3: Chubb situation where you can actually start both of them.
Speaker 4: They could both be fantasy relevant. So it's some of those.
Speaker 3: Situations where like, ah, I don't know if I can
Speaker 3: pull the trigger and redraft right now, being that you know,
Speaker 3: maybe David Montgomery might be going around some.
Speaker 4: Guys that I really really like at other positions.
Speaker 2: Which makes sense, and to me, see that's to me,
Speaker 2: a handcuff is not a player who's going in like
Speaker 2: the top five rounds, which is why like David Montgomery,
Speaker 2: I think is his own standalone entity kind of although
Speaker 2: a team last year my homely drafted him and Gibbs
Speaker 2: and rolled them to a champion. Wrote them it can
Speaker 2: sometimes it works, It easily can work. But where I
Speaker 2: like to target handcuffs is where there's a clear cut backup.
Speaker 2: I don't want a situation where like say, like's Denver
Speaker 2: Javonte gets hurt and all of a sudden, now there's
Speaker 2: four running backs on the roster and it's like we
Speaker 2: don't know what. No, no, no. That's why like Blake
Speaker 2: Korham to me, is one of the top handcuffs this year.
Speaker 2: I know your guy Tray Benson falls in that group.
Speaker 2: Ray Davis, I would put in that group. These are
Speaker 2: guys that if the starters go down, the backup can
Speaker 2: just slide in. Is gonna get Look, they're not gonna
Speaker 2: be what the starter is, but they could be seventy
Speaker 2: five percent of that or something like that.
Speaker 3: They'll get the touches. That's all that matters. Volumus key here,
Speaker 3: So I'm agree with you.
Speaker 2: And those are the situations where especially Blake Korm Kyen
Speaker 2: Williams has a history of injuries, Trey Benson, James Connor
Speaker 2: has a history of missing never has played seventeen games
Speaker 2: in his career, such as wild Those are the kind
Speaker 2: of situations I like to get my handcuffs. And now
Speaker 2: if I take Javon C. Williams, I'm not taking any
Speaker 2: of the other Broncos running back or something like that
Speaker 2: where it's a murky situation, but when we know it's
Speaker 2: one clearcut guy and the guy doesn't go for a
Speaker 2: very steep price, Yeah, I'm okay pairing them together.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, man, I mean I definitely agree with that.
Speaker 3: And there's other situations with Jonathan Brooks and chewba Herber. Yep,
Speaker 3: that's a great example of like, hey, I might as
Speaker 3: well grab Chuba Hubber because if Jonathan Brooks is not
Speaker 3: ready to go, we already know Chuba Hubber is able
Speaker 3: to handle as like a workhorse guy, and he's on
Speaker 3: third down a lot of times, and he's a guy
Speaker 3: that can somewhat run routes. So it's a situation there's
Speaker 3: really nobody behind him that can take those touches from
Speaker 3: if Jonathan Brooks isn't ready yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you a grab your handcuff, grab someone else's handcuff.
Speaker 4: I'm goa grab somebody else's handcuff. I'm very toxic, leagues.
Speaker 2: I'm largely that way unless my starter is like Kien
Speaker 2: Williams or James Connor, is someone like I feel like
Speaker 2: this guy's probably gonna miss some time. Yeah, then I
Speaker 2: want to get that backup just in case. That was
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Speaker 2: gonna wrap up, I should say, our division previews. We
Speaker 2: have one more division left, NFC East. We're a couple
Speaker 2: of East Coast guys. We're rounding it out with the
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Speaker 2: the Fantasy for NFL Fantasy Football Show. All right, welcome
Speaker 2: back to the NFL Fantasy Football Show. I just realized
Speaker 2: Marcus doesn't bring it back from breaks like that, But
Speaker 2: I'm not Marcus. So that's how we're doing it today.
Speaker 2: We're talking like I said, NFC East, we've been going
Speaker 2: alphabetically the whole time. So don't assume that just because
Speaker 2: we're talking about your team last, that that think they're
Speaker 2: gonna finish last or something like that. Be weird. Yeah,
Speaker 2: don't don't be weird. That should just be a rule
Speaker 2: of life. Harder for some people than for others, trust me.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna start in big d Dallas. How about
Speaker 2: them Cowboys last season? Obviously, their top quarterback was Dak
Speaker 2: Prescott went on to score nearly three hundred and fifty points.
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard there RB one he no longer plays there,
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb was not just their wide receiver one, he
Speaker 2: was the world's wide receiver one fact. And then Jake
Speaker 2: Ferguson rounding out the tight end positions. Some key losses
Speaker 2: for them, Tony Pollard went to the Tennessee Titans, Dante
Speaker 2: Fallow junior to the Commanders, Michael Gallup was released and
Speaker 2: then retired, and some key additions. They brought a familiar
Speaker 2: face back home. Zeke after one year out of Dallas,
Speaker 2: is back where he belongs. Because look, you might not
Speaker 2: think Zeke is the same Zeke because he's not but
Speaker 2: I will tell you he looks better with the star
Speaker 2: on his head. Right.
Speaker 4: It was very weird to see him in the Patriots jersey,
Speaker 4: like what are we doing here?
Speaker 2: Something's just fit and that was one of them. They
Speaker 2: brought in Royce Freeman, Eric Hendricks as well, and no surprise,
Speaker 2: Lakwan first off the board for the Cowboys C D
Speaker 2: Lamb at pick two point two on average. But sticking
Speaker 2: with C. D Lamb, he is holding out right now.
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones making some comments off the wall a little bit,
Speaker 2: I would say he had to reel them in a
Speaker 2: little bit where he's no urgency. Yeah, we're not in
Speaker 2: a rush to sign C. D Lamb. Then he realized,
Speaker 2: oh wait, the season starts in a couple of weeks,
Speaker 2: maybe we should be.
Speaker 3: Here, and oh wait, my star wide receivers has the
Speaker 3: internet like what are we doing here?
Speaker 4: Like he's going to hear this.
Speaker 2: I love that. Michael Parson also retweeted it and was
Speaker 2: like showing, yeah, yeah, but how I keep up Until
Speaker 2: this point, I've been saying I'm not worried yet. I
Speaker 2: think it gets to work out. But at what point
Speaker 2: do you start to worry?
Speaker 3: I think more so you're worried someome comes to your
Speaker 3: draft day, because I remember in my home league a
Speaker 3: couple of years ago with the whole Zeke thing where
Speaker 3: he was holding out and then my boy was able
Speaker 3: to get Zeke in like the tenth round just because
Speaker 3: he was holding out. But then it's like once he
Speaker 3: came back, it was kind of like the great value there.
Speaker 3: So I'm really not out to worry if he's going
Speaker 3: to hold out because that might just make CD Lamb's
Speaker 3: price drop down a bit to where like, okay, well
Speaker 3: I'll just get him at a discount price if you
Speaker 3: know the room is stort heating up, that he's going
Speaker 3: to hold out into the season.
Speaker 4: Like I always love those situations.
Speaker 3: But then I always remember when Le'Veon Bell did hold
Speaker 3: out and you actually got burned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's that. I just I don't maybe I'm crazy.
Speaker 2: I find myself a lot less worried with Cedee Lamb.
Speaker 2: Like he knows the playbook, he knows he is the offense.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, yeah, who is in the Dallas so
Speaker 2: like the volume is going to be there everything. I'm
Speaker 2: not worried yet. If this is still going on after
Speaker 2: the preseason, sure then maybe I'll be worried, but it
Speaker 2: just makes too much sense for Lamb to want to
Speaker 2: get paid for the Cowboys to want to When they
Speaker 2: traded Amari Cooper a couple of years ago, they did
Speaker 2: so with this this day, and particularly like we're gonna
Speaker 2: have to pay CD left. There's if you could clip
Speaker 2: this and play it for me till the end of time.
Speaker 2: If I am wrong, there is no way Cede Lamb
Speaker 2: plays for anyone but the Dallas Cowboys in the next
Speaker 2: two years. I'm very confident of the two years. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I think they're gonna lock him up beyond this year.
Speaker 2: But the only even if I'm starting to worry right now,
Speaker 2: like if I'm drafting the only wide receiver I could
Speaker 2: even see my Like if you want to go Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 2: I have no beef there because I think it's a
Speaker 2: one A one B. But I think those two are
Speaker 2: in a tier of their own, So I will not
Speaker 2: let him slide any further. You want to put see
Speaker 2: him ahead of him too, I'm okay with that. Three
Speaker 2: is the absolute latest I would let Lamb fall us.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, but you'll you'll get You'll get some people.
Speaker 3: Out there that are just like, oh, I'll just avoid
Speaker 3: the headache, and like I'm hoping I'm sitting at that
Speaker 3: four or five spot to where it's like, okay, I
Speaker 3: just got ceedee Lamb at the one oh five, Like
Speaker 3: thank you. Now I can restructure my strategy and my
Speaker 3: plans going for the rest of his draft. Like I
Speaker 3: love when you get blessed with those type of gifts
Speaker 3: because it's like, man, you go ahead and be worry
Speaker 3: Nancy or whatever you call it that I don't know
Speaker 3: the saying so negative negative Nancy or whatever.
Speaker 4: Listen, listen, it's close enough to what I'm.
Speaker 2: Trying to say, war or negative worry wart.
Speaker 4: I like that. I never heard that.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, man, I'm not really worried.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be losing the sleep over CD Lamb.
Speaker 3: I know they're gonna make the contract right, they got
Speaker 3: to pay them, man. They just better hope that Brandon
Speaker 3: Auk doesn't cash him big because that's gonna break the bank.
Speaker 2: This is a conversation for another day. I don't know
Speaker 2: why the Cowboys didn't sign CD six months ago. Yes
Speaker 2: for a J. Brown, before all these contracts got signed,
Speaker 2: Like you want to be signing before the market is set,
Speaker 2: not after, but just to put it in a perspective that
Speaker 2: he was their offense. He had a hundred more targets
Speaker 2: than any other Cowboys wide receiver last year, a hundred
Speaker 2: one one hundred. So with that in mind, Lakwan who
Speaker 2: is the number two target for the.
Speaker 4: Cowboys Number two?
Speaker 3: I mean it will probably look like it's Brandon Cooks,
Speaker 3: but I think Jake Ferguson takes a step forward this
Speaker 3: year to where like Brandon Cooks was great for what
Speaker 3: he was, but he wasn't seeing like a ton of volume.
Speaker 3: But Ferguson had over one hundred targets, and I feel
Speaker 3: like he will be more so the more reliable pass
Speaker 3: catcher that you know where Dak could really get bailed
Speaker 3: out in that middle of the field. Like I love
Speaker 3: his red zone president he had five touchdowns last season.
Speaker 3: I think we get a little bit more out of
Speaker 3: Fergson going more comfortable into the season because it's his
Speaker 3: first season removed from Dalton Schultz, I believe. So it's like,
Speaker 3: more so where I'm looking at, Dak has a healthy
Speaker 3: tight end target percentage. When you look at the last
Speaker 3: three seasons, it's a twenty percent target share. So I
Speaker 3: really feel as though there's a healthy target share where
Speaker 3: healthy volume's on table for him and you don't really
Speaker 3: have to worry about him splitting roles at that tight
Speaker 3: end position.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And last year he was the number two target.
Speaker 2: He had one hundred and two targets CD had one
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty one for context. Yeah, but I agree.
Speaker 2: I think it's Jake Ferguson again this year. And if
Speaker 2: you remember last year, at the start of the year,
Speaker 2: the Cowboys were kind of trying to figure out which
Speaker 2: tight end they liked most. They were using three tight
Speaker 2: ends and they would get like rotational in the red zone,
Speaker 2: and then as the year went on, it was just evident,
Speaker 2: like Jake Ferguson is our guy. Yeah. Not only do
Speaker 2: I think he's the number two target, Lakwan, I think
Speaker 2: when you so to me, there's a clear cut top
Speaker 2: six tight ends, there's the big four in however, or
Speaker 2: do you want to put him the Porto McBride, Kelsey
Speaker 2: and Andrews. Then to me, I think on the top seven.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, then there's a second group of Kincaid, Pitts, Kittle. Yeah.
Speaker 2: To me, after those guys are off the board. Ferguson
Speaker 2: is the tight end I want most.
Speaker 3: Absolutely it's Ferguson and then David and Joku. For me,
Speaker 3: those are the two people I've kind of been stacking
Speaker 3: with TJ. Hawklake before off Mike we were talking about
Speaker 3: like that, like those are the combos that we were getting,
Speaker 3: so like, if you miss out on the leaks, Ferguson
Speaker 3: is the probably the best available tight end for you
Speaker 3: right there, just so you can get that out of
Speaker 3: the way and keep building your roster how you're building
Speaker 3: in the drafts.
Speaker 2: And look, we said, he looks better with a star
Speaker 2: on his helmet. But how much does Ezekiel Elliott at
Speaker 2: the ripe age of twenty nine years old, just turned
Speaker 2: twenty nine oh three weeks ago, how much does he
Speaker 2: have left in the.
Speaker 3: Ten Did you see that video on training came where
Speaker 3: like he came out of like the tackle little drill.
Speaker 2: He got hit somewhere and people were trying to.
Speaker 4: Not give you that pask listen.
Speaker 3: I feel like he was the old man walking through
Speaker 3: the house, stepping on stepping on toys and stuff like
Speaker 3: who's put this here?
Speaker 4: Like it was just like.
Speaker 2: Oh man, old man, zeke man.
Speaker 3: But twenty nine's not old man, but I honestly think
Speaker 3: his role will look a lot similar to what we've
Speaker 3: kind of knew what it would be once Toty Pollard.
Speaker 4: Tony Pollard got more involved in that backfield.
Speaker 3: I think Zeke what's going to really save him as
Speaker 3: his involvement in the passing game, because Zeke was not
Speaker 3: terrible last year, Like I don't want to put dirt
Speaker 3: on his name, but for the Cowboys standard to be
Speaker 3: able to be the Zeke that we know and love
Speaker 3: when he had that star in his helmet, you know
Speaker 3: years ago, where he was putting up over one thousand yards,
Speaker 3: like clearing it and not just getting to one thousand yards. Honestly,
Speaker 3: I feel like the roles will be split between him
Speaker 3: and Rico Daddle, But I kind of just been taking
Speaker 3: Rico just because, like I feel a little bit better,
Speaker 3: you know, about his opportunity possibly blossoming on the back
Speaker 3: end of that season.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I have them almost back to back in my rankings. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And the thing is, I have I think Zeke higher
Speaker 2: of the two because I think Rico is more explosive,
Speaker 2: but I think Jerry Jones loves him some of Ezekiel Yeah.
Speaker 4: Even if it's bad product, He's just gonna put him
Speaker 4: out there.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be like, Yo, get this guy the ball out.
Speaker 2: So I don't think Zeke ever fully fades, And I
Speaker 2: think he could be the past catching back. Like you said, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Rico was kind of used very sparingly there last year.
Speaker 2: He'll be I think it's possible we could see these
Speaker 2: guys alternate drives or something like that. But I think
Speaker 2: in the two minute drills and the obvious passing down situations,
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna bring Zeke out there. The rapport
Speaker 2: that him and Dak have over the years. They're best friends. Yeah,
Speaker 2: stuff like that. And look, this is what Zeke had
Speaker 2: six games last year where he was the lead running
Speaker 2: back for the New England Patriots. He averaged less than
Speaker 2: three yards per carry. It was disgustingly bad on the ground,
Speaker 2: but in those six games, thirty nine targets, thirty one catches,
Speaker 2: almost two hundred yards. I had him because I had
Speaker 2: romondra Stevenson. He was my handcuff. He helped win me
Speaker 2: a championship because he was just PPR in his way.
Speaker 2: It was growth exactly. He didn't want to watch it,
Speaker 2: but at the end of the dame, he'd be like, wow,
Speaker 2: Z gave me fifteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean at the end of the day.
Speaker 3: Like That's why I think will save his fantasy relevance
Speaker 3: and why you're still drafting Zeke because of his involvement
Speaker 3: in the passing game, and Dak is definitely gonna be
Speaker 3: dumping it down to him if the pressure's on, or
Speaker 3: if there's gonna be a design play for Zeke to
Speaker 3: get more involved in the passing game as he goes on,
Speaker 3: because like I said, I don't see Zeke being the
Speaker 3: ground to pound guy that we loved in once upon
Speaker 3: a time. I think that's gonna be Rico's role to
Speaker 3: kind of get some of those converting third downs, try
Speaker 3: to get some of those situational, you know, first downs.
Speaker 4: As well, because he gives you a little bit burst,
Speaker 4: gives you a little.
Speaker 3: Bit more you know, excitement out of that backfield to
Speaker 3: be the guy that can get outside, hit that corner
Speaker 3: and possibly take it to the house. I don't know
Speaker 3: if Rico has that in the tank right now, but
Speaker 3: I think he's a little bit more motivated that they
Speaker 3: didn't go out and get a Derrick Henry. They didn't
Speaker 3: go out and get a JK Dobmas. They brung a
Speaker 3: guy they're kind of familiar with and he's on the
Speaker 3: back of his career. So I think this might be
Speaker 3: a season where Rico might blossom into something in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five.
Speaker 2: He I think, is the one that gives you more
Speaker 2: upside of the two. But I think Zeke's floor is
Speaker 2: at least to start the year. Like, if I needed
Speaker 2: to start one of these guys week one.
Speaker 4: I don't look, you don't want to be I hope
Speaker 4: you're not in that situation.
Speaker 2: I hope you're not either. But week one, I think
Speaker 2: long term upside Rico all day, but week one I
Speaker 2: would feel the volume safe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Volan would definitely be key for you.
Speaker 3: And like I said, man, it's gonna be nasty, So
Speaker 3: don't go out there expecting, like you know, fifteen points
Speaker 3: from Zeke in week one.
Speaker 4: Man, this is gonna be a slow dog walk, so
Speaker 4: give us some time.
Speaker 2: These guys are going around to like ten to eleven
Speaker 2: for a reason, so you could even grab both of
Speaker 2: them and just hope that one hits because they are
Speaker 2: so cheap. Moving into your backyard though in New Jersey,
Speaker 2: I know the New York Giants, but he's a Jersey guy.
Speaker 2: You're Tommy da Vito. Hey was somehow their highest scoring
Speaker 2: quarter I was shocked by that. Yes, I loved Look,
Speaker 2: no one had more fun with Tommy DeVito than me
Speaker 2: with the skits I was doing on Fantasy Live and stuff.
Speaker 2: When I saw that he has scored more points than
Speaker 2: anyone else for the Giants at the quarterback position last year,
Speaker 2: I was a little shook it. Oh, sekuon Barkley, we
Speaker 2: know he was the RB one there for them. Gave
Speaker 2: you over two hundred and twenty points. Their wide receiver
Speaker 2: one was Darius Slaton, let's go at one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty one points. And then Darren Waller, despite all the
Speaker 2: miss time and yeah the sad rap songs that he
Speaker 2: was writing, finished as their tight end one. He is
Speaker 2: now retired. Some key losses for the Giants. Obviously, Saque
Speaker 2: went down to Philly. We're gonna talk about that more
Speaker 2: a little bit later on the show. Serling Shepherd left
Speaker 2: the Giants. I believe he retired.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think he is now the Raiders.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's on the Raiders. Tarad Taylor did not even
Speaker 2: need to move. He stays in the same building, but
Speaker 2: he left the Giants. He now plays for the Jets
Speaker 2: key editions Brian Burns. That was their big get this offseason,
Speaker 2: but they also signed Devin Singletary. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: familiarity with Motor Table and Drew Locke as some insurance
Speaker 2: for Danny Dimes Lakwan. I feel like a lot of
Speaker 2: us have gone full circle with mylik Neighbors this offseason.
Speaker 2: Like for me, he was my favorite wide receiver in
Speaker 2: the draft. Then he goes to the Giants and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't really love this landing spot. And now I'm
Speaker 2: fully on board as talk taking him as a breakout
Speaker 2: wide receiver. What is the earliest you're willing to take
Speaker 2: Molak Neighbors?
Speaker 4: Man, this is rough. This is rough.
Speaker 3: I mean they're gonna clip this, but it's rough. I
Speaker 3: feel like I'm on a full fade campaign of Molak Neighbors.
Speaker 3: But I would say, like the fifth round will probably
Speaker 3: be the earliest I would take him. But let me
Speaker 3: let me iron out my case. Why Like this is
Speaker 3: why like QB play matters a ton when it comes
Speaker 3: to these dynamic players, Like I don't want to say
Speaker 3: he's QB proof because he has not played.
Speaker 2: You really said on Fantasy Live today that Milik neighbors
Speaker 2: is ko.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm sorry, but listen, I definitely heard
Speaker 3: you say that.
Speaker 2: Dude. That's what's crazy.
Speaker 3: But I don't want to say his QB proof is
Speaker 3: based on he hasn't played a NFL snap, And like,
Speaker 3: I think it's very important because there's guys that will
Speaker 3: have a thousand yards and have over one hundred targets
Speaker 3: with a high percentage of a target share on the
Speaker 3: team because there's nobody else And that's kind of similar
Speaker 3: to the situation where he's in. But you have guys
Speaker 3: like DeAndre Hopkins, George Pikins, Terr McLaurin, Drake London, and
Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 4: All these guys.
Speaker 3: Were top tier target share guys, but they only averaging
Speaker 3: were capped out to thirteen Fantasy points per game.
Speaker 4: And these guys I can't really touch when they're going
Speaker 4: in those early rounds.
Speaker 3: I'd rather pivot to someone that has a higher touchdown ceiling,
Speaker 3: that has a more i would say not mid tier
Speaker 3: quarterback that can go out there and really or do
Speaker 3: some offensive drive.
Speaker 4: So it's like I'm still a little hesitant.
Speaker 3: Man. I love watching this film. He's like one like
Speaker 3: if we had to go back in time. Out of
Speaker 3: the Big three, my Lleigu Neighbors is definitely my favorite
Speaker 3: one mine as well, like definitely over Marvin Harrison and
Speaker 3: over Roaming Dounesday. But going to the Giants it kind
Speaker 3: of just took me back a little bit, man, which.
Speaker 2: I think is a lot of people's concern, and YE say,
Speaker 2: fair and valid concern. The earliest. I would take him
Speaker 2: his round three, which probably sounds crazy, but when you're
Speaker 2: drafting with people like us who do this every day,
Speaker 2: that's where you have to take you have to. But
Speaker 2: in home leagues, and I keep saying this, I think
Speaker 2: running backs are gonna get pulled up in home leagues
Speaker 2: because not everyone. The first three rounds are not gonna
Speaker 2: be almost thirty enough like they are in a lot
Speaker 2: of our expert drafts. So I think in home leagues
Speaker 2: there's a chance he falls to the fourth or fifth round,
Speaker 2: and I'd be all over that. But just like you,
Speaker 2: I love the talent. He was my favorite in this class.
Speaker 2: He is such a threat to win downfield, but he
Speaker 2: is just a threat to take a one yard pass
Speaker 2: and take at the distance for a touchdown. And watching
Speaker 2: hard Knocks offseason, you see how like he was their
Speaker 2: number one as well, he was Brian Dables number one
Speaker 2: as well. In this exactly, I think this offense is
Speaker 2: going to revolve around them, which is like I know
Speaker 2: you said, like Drake London as wanting. If Drake London
Speaker 2: had volume as a rookie, I think he would have produced,
Speaker 2: but it was the usage that really dragged him down.
Speaker 2: You mentioned Garrett Wilson. Garrett Wilson was a wide receiver
Speaker 2: one when he didn't have Zach Wilson out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Joe Fla and.
Speaker 2: I think this is easily the best wide receiver Danny
Speaker 2: Dimes has ever had ever so and we have seen
Speaker 2: it before. We've seen it with Wilson, with Jalen Waddle,
Speaker 2: justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, a rookie wide receiver like this,
Speaker 2: the elite guys I'm not even talking about like a
Speaker 2: first round talent, like top ten wide receiver picks. They
Speaker 2: just changed their offense and they changed their their dynamics.
Speaker 2: So I'm hoping that neighbors can have that effect where
Speaker 2: he's the Giants up yeah, just because he's so good. Oh,
Speaker 2: not someone I would want on at that price in
Speaker 2: all of my drafts, but definitely someone that I'm pretty
Speaker 2: bullish on. Now. I agree, I have him as a
Speaker 2: as a wide receiver two in my ranks. He's in
Speaker 2: my top twenty four.
Speaker 4: Top twenty four.
Speaker 3: That's not that's not even bad when we're talking about it,
Speaker 3: and it's like, I feel like it all depends on
Speaker 3: your roster structure of how you start off that draft.
Speaker 3: So if you go the first two rounds and you
Speaker 3: get a wide receiver, and then if Malik Neighbors is
Speaker 3: still on the board in that third, fourth round, then
Speaker 3: you can go ahead and draft him as like the
Speaker 3: wide receiver three slash flex in most of these formats
Speaker 3: where I'm like, Okay, I can breathe at night, I
Speaker 3: could sleep at night.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, brief at of course, but I could sleep
Speaker 2: at night. If you're not breathing, we got some problems.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, what's going on with me today?
Speaker 3: But definitely one of those situations like price matters, situational
Speaker 3: matters of how you're building your roster. But me, if
Speaker 3: he's still want to be my wide receiver two feels
Speaker 3: a little nasty to me, man, it does it just does.
Speaker 2: I get that, and a lot of the times I'm
Speaker 2: starting wide receiver wide receivers, So for me, he's a
Speaker 2: three in a lot of this.
Speaker 3: This is the year to do it, man, if you
Speaker 3: really are a fan of Laitue Neighbors, like I really
Speaker 3: feel like that's the only proper way this could be
Speaker 3: done without pulling your hair out every Sunday.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Next year, I think there is a very good
Speaker 2: chance that Milite Neighbors is going in the first round
Speaker 2: of Fantasy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're going to get a quarterback, right.
Speaker 2: They're gonna do something there, and he's gonna show up
Speaker 2: and show out as my man right here, likes to say,
Speaker 2: the entire internet and not not really just those fantasy nerds. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Came to a complete halt on Monday when it was
Speaker 2: announced that Teneral Tracy left practice on a card, was
Speaker 2: in an air cast, looked like it might be really severe,
Speaker 2: and then like an hour later and was like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: it's just a routine sprain. He'll be okay. So everyone
Speaker 2: was able to breathe. But is everyone's favorite deep sleeper
Speaker 2: right now? Are we a little too hyped? On him.
Speaker 3: H Yes, I think we're a little too hype because
Speaker 3: we also have to remember what offense he's on. We're
Speaker 3: on a giant offense that really couldn't produce much. Even
Speaker 3: when Danny dimes in those early games in the season,
Speaker 3: they couldn't convert. They weren't a high scoring team. And
Speaker 3: I think this is kind of the same situation with
Speaker 3: the only edition of Malik Neavis the Running Game. We
Speaker 3: still need to figure out Andy's behind Devin Singletary, who
Speaker 3: took over that backfield in Houston once Damian Pierce went
Speaker 3: down with injury, so he was a serviceable back, And
Speaker 3: that's kind of still the same situation. Like if you
Speaker 3: were watching Hard Knocks and you see they were talking
Speaker 3: about Devin Singletary and he's always been a guy that
Speaker 3: can produce. He's a guy that's been a serviceable RB
Speaker 3: one for a lot of these teams, Like even going
Speaker 3: back to Buffalo, like he really had you know, Frank
Speaker 3: Gore behind him, he really had you know, James Cook
Speaker 3: behind Zach Moss, and like he had all these running
Speaker 3: backs and he was holding them off just based on
Speaker 3: the type of player he is. So more so we
Speaker 3: definitely need to do a temperature check on how high
Speaker 3: we are liking this guy and kind of let him develop.
Speaker 2: I still am on board with Tracy right. Look, it
Speaker 2: would not I'm not saying Devin Singletary is gonna get benched,
Speaker 2: but it would not be the first time Brian Dable
Speaker 2: has benched him. Oh that is true, he has done.
Speaker 4: They forget about it.
Speaker 2: He did try to make Zach Moss a thing for
Speaker 2: a while and that just didn't work out. And then
Speaker 2: there was at one point when Dable was the OC,
Speaker 2: they just literally completely abandoned the run and there was
Speaker 2: a playoff game where Josh Allen in one half had
Speaker 2: their only rushing attempt. It was insane. I think Devin
Speaker 2: Singletary though, was a really good value. But the thing
Speaker 2: is Tracy to me, at least watching them play last week.
Speaker 2: Not only did he look good and that's why I
Speaker 2: like him because of the burst and the explosiveness that
Speaker 2: he possesses, but he played eleven of the thirteen snaps
Speaker 2: on the giants first three drives. He had all of
Speaker 2: their RB carries. He looked like the RB two. Now
Speaker 2: Eric Ray came in and played well after Tracy, but
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you to draft this guy as a
Speaker 2: flex or anything like that. I just like him as
Speaker 2: a later round dart throw. Yeah, because if something happens
Speaker 2: to Devin Singletary, he is next in.
Speaker 3: Line, No, most definitely, And like I always think back
Speaker 3: when he still was with Buffalo those last final six
Speaker 3: seven games that he was there in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 3: and it was like, I mean twenty twenty yeah, twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two, this dude was averaging over five point zero
Speaker 3: yards per carry and I was just like, oh, he's
Speaker 3: being very productive. And they started giving him more touches
Speaker 3: as the back end of the season happened, and I think,
Speaker 3: you know, Brian Dabo, hopefully he doesn't mention him again,
Speaker 3: because I really do like Devin Singletary for what he is.
Speaker 3: He's such a serviceable back man. Then he might hold
Speaker 3: off the rookie anday yo, man, you know, chill out
Speaker 3: for a little bit and let me get the work
Speaker 3: and get things going again.
Speaker 2: And the reason I think that twenty twenty two season
Speaker 2: and last year for Singletary matters so much more than
Speaker 2: his early season career because he shout out to Tyler Dune.
Speaker 2: He's a writer up in Buffalo, coming into the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two season, he did this whole feature piece on
Speaker 2: Devin Singletary about how he Singletary himself was like, I
Speaker 2: am the type of running back that does not last
Speaker 2: long in this league. I need to add more speed
Speaker 2: and more explosiveness. And he went to a special coach
Speaker 2: to do so, and he has looked like a different
Speaker 2: runner he has, so it really has I think that
Speaker 2: is something to note again, just just a good backup that, like,
Speaker 2: I don't think you should be drafting him as anything more.
Speaker 2: Yeah than that. Speaking of sleepers here, and I hope
Speaker 2: we're on the same line of thought here, but Theil
Speaker 2: Johnson deep sleeper or.
Speaker 3: Not deep sleeper, for sure, He's one of those tight
Speaker 3: ends that if you know you miss out on your guys,
Speaker 3: you miss out on the players that you love in
Speaker 3: those later rounds at tight end. Like I'm a John
Speaker 3: new Smith guy, but I'm looking at THEO Johnson in
Speaker 3: some of those areas late in those drafts where I'm like,
Speaker 3: let me take some THEO Johnson just to see how
Speaker 3: this blossoms out.
Speaker 4: Because the dude is a freak athlete.
Speaker 3: He might be falling into that category where like, oh, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's gonna hit the ground running no matter what. And
Speaker 3: this offense is Giants offense outside of the league, Neighbors,
Speaker 3: They're looking for guys to step up. They're looking for
Speaker 3: guys that could really start and hit the ground running
Speaker 3: because they need this spark. And you know, Daniel Jones
Speaker 3: needs that security blanket. He needs somebody that can really
Speaker 3: dump off and a guy like Theo Johnson's very athletic
Speaker 3: that becomes a had zone threat as well, so where
Speaker 3: touchdowns are definitely on the table.
Speaker 2: Man. That is exactly why I'm on board Theo Johnson.
Speaker 2: Let's go six six, two hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 4: That is a man.
Speaker 2: If he was in Game of Thrones, he would be
Speaker 2: the mountain. Like he is massive, He's gonna be utilized.
Speaker 2: I think there is a good chance he could lead
Speaker 2: this team in red zone targets, like because he is
Speaker 2: that big, I would expect Malik Neighbors to but I
Speaker 2: think the look. Plus it's also the situation. Like last season,
Speaker 2: I was super bullish on Sam Laporta. I did not
Speaker 2: think he was gonna be the tight end one. Let's
Speaker 2: start there. Yeah, it was partially because I liked his talent,
Speaker 2: But more than that, I like the situation he was in.
Speaker 2: You look at the depth chart for the Lions tight
Speaker 2: ends last year and you were like, none of these
Speaker 2: guys have ever done anything in R Well, yeah, and
Speaker 2: they went and they just used the premium pick on
Speaker 2: this guy. Now you look at the Giants, he has
Speaker 2: to beat out Daniel Bellinger and he's a tight end one.
Speaker 2: I think there's a good chance we see him on
Speaker 2: the field a whole lot for the Giants. I think
Speaker 2: he can be a top twenty tight end mate with
Speaker 2: a little bit more upside. And he's gonna go and
Speaker 2: drafted in almost all of your all.
Speaker 3: Your leagues, Like there's no home link right now that
Speaker 3: I promise you have Theo Johnson on the radar unless
Speaker 3: they're listening to this great podcast.
Speaker 2: And even in a home league, I'm not sure you
Speaker 2: should draft like I'm taking him in Best Ball and
Speaker 2: stuff like that where we're going. If you're in a
Speaker 2: deep league, yes, but in your traditional twelve team with
Speaker 2: like four or five bench spots, he's more of a
Speaker 2: name to keep an eye on on the waiver wire. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: From the New York Giants to the Philadelphia Eagles. I
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Speaker 2: So obviously the big news with the Philadelphia Eagles, but
Speaker 2: before I get into that, let's go through their top scores.
Speaker 2: It was Jalen Hurts, obviously, it was DeAndre Swift obviously,
Speaker 2: AJ Brown and Dallas Goddard. You all probably knew that
Speaker 2: off the top of your head. Key losses. Jason Kelsey retired,
Speaker 2: which I think is a big deal, huge, dal Letcher
Speaker 2: Cox left, DeAndre Swift left, Hassan Reddick left, and he
Speaker 2: doesn't want to be in with the Jets anymore either.
Speaker 2: Let's just their key addition, Saquon, Devonte Parker, and Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 2: First player off the board is Saquon Barkley. And I
Speaker 2: was in New York this offseason the day Saquon Barkley
Speaker 2: signed with the Eagles, and let me tell you New
Speaker 2: York like Tiki Barbera was on the fan losing his
Speaker 2: mind and like, I think he really wanted to throw
Speaker 2: hands with Saquan at that moment. Like it was so
Speaker 2: funny as a non Giants fan in live time to
Speaker 2: see all the Giants fans, I know, just freaking out
Speaker 2: that this guy not only left but went to their vision.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's getting real oppy outside because he just went
Speaker 3: to the Rivals, Like I could not believe this move,
Speaker 3: and then watching Hard Knocks, the move makes so much sense.
Speaker 2: How they.
Speaker 4: Like, I I what did he say on the phone?
Speaker 3: He was like, I told you where I want to
Speaker 3: be at and that was like a hidden thing to
Speaker 3: where I was like, he's talking about the money, he
Speaker 3: ain't talking about the situation at the Giants.
Speaker 2: I think it was twofold. I think he I think
Speaker 2: he's wanted to play for as a Pennsylvania guy went
Speaker 2: to the state. I think he's wanted to be an
Speaker 2: Eagle for a while.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure the winning team. As his daughter would say,
Speaker 3: though we're winning on the winning team now, yes, yeah
Speaker 3: they are.
Speaker 2: The Giants have had a lot of Sorry, Giant fans.
Speaker 2: We talked about your team very commonly a little while ago.
Speaker 2: Exactly it is time to see who will deliver. Presented
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Speaker 2: or less ten total touchdowns.
Speaker 3: A man, I'm say less, but I'm gonna say at
Speaker 3: nine it's gonna be right there, Like it's gonna be
Speaker 3: right there to the point where I feel like there's
Speaker 3: gonna be a great dynamic between him and Jalen Hurts
Speaker 3: where that red zone duty is gonna get split in half.
Speaker 3: And I really think that Sakuon Barkley doesn't have that
Speaker 3: burst to take it to the house anymore. It's gonna
Speaker 3: be more so close to distance of where a lot
Speaker 3: of his touchdowns are gonna come. And I'm gonna include
Speaker 3: maybe some receiving touchdowns in that nine as well. So
Speaker 3: I really feel as though nine is where I can
Speaker 3: set it. At ten, I'll be very very surprised if
Speaker 3: he hits more than ten.
Speaker 2: I'm going with more here we go and double digits. Look,
Speaker 2: I know everyone is gonna be like, oh, well, the
Speaker 2: Toush push, the Toush push. He's gonna Jalen Hurts is
Speaker 2: gonna volt Sakuon Barkley had the same number of goal
Speaker 2: one carries last year as DeAndre Swift. It's not like
Speaker 2: the Giants were getting to the goal line very now,
Speaker 2: and he had ten touchdowns last season. But even more
Speaker 2: than that, it's the best offense he's ever played in,
Speaker 2: best quarterback, best wide receivers. He's gonna get more scoring.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be on an offense at least with more
Speaker 2: scoring opportunities than he's ever been before. But even I like,
Speaker 2: I think Saquon was brought in because the Eagles are like,
Speaker 2: maybe we shouldn't be running Jalen Hurts at the goal
Speaker 2: line more than any player in the NFL did last year.
Speaker 2: I still think the touch push is gonna be in
Speaker 2: their playbook. But without Kelsey there, and with Hurts getting
Speaker 2: another year older, and now you have a running back
Speaker 2: that you could trust and that you're paying like Saquon Barkley,
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see him get more goal on
Speaker 2: usage than people might be thinking.
Speaker 4: No, I can see that.
Speaker 3: I can see that just based on how Jalen Hurts
Speaker 3: was still a dynamic red zone thread even before the
Speaker 3: Toush push became like such a trendy thing, Like I
Speaker 3: do see that happening.
Speaker 4: But Saquon, man.
Speaker 3: Stay healthy because I have you in a lot of
Speaker 3: my leagues, Because I really feel as though this would
Speaker 3: be a great situation for him all around as a
Speaker 3: pass catcher on the ground and being in an opportunity
Speaker 3: to be on the Eagles who create a lot of
Speaker 3: scoring opportunities. So hopefully, man, we have a good fantasy
Speaker 3: outcome when it comes to Saquon Barkley and an Eagles jersey.
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Speaker 2: so we're talking a lot about Saguin Barkley, what his
Speaker 2: goal on usage is going to be, all of that.
Speaker 2: How much do you think Saquon impacts Jalen Hurt's ceiling?
Speaker 2: Not by much?
Speaker 3: Like we're still looking at Jalen Hurts as a top
Speaker 3: three quarterback right, Like I really feel as though he's
Speaker 3: still that threat even outside of the pocket, even to
Speaker 3: make the big plays by AJ Brown and with Davonte
Speaker 3: Smith and don't forget about Dallas godd It there man, he's.
Speaker 4: Still there as well.
Speaker 3: So I really feel as though this is an all
Speaker 3: around great situation having all these pieces around him where
Speaker 3: he could still be in that top three conversation when
Speaker 3: it comes to these quarterbacks, because to me, it's Josh
Speaker 3: Allen and then it's Jalen Hurts, and then it could
Speaker 3: be whoever you want to put at that three spot.
Speaker 3: It could be Mahomes, it could be Lamar Jackson, it
Speaker 3: could be even Anthony Richardson. Man, So I really feel
Speaker 3: as though you have Jalen Hurts still in that conversation
Speaker 3: as a top guy.
Speaker 2: As I wear for you listeners. I haven't Anthony Richardson
Speaker 2: right now. I've been shown it off all damn five
Speaker 2: off this year. I do think it hurts the upside
Speaker 2: of Hurts though, because if he's if Saquon is getting
Speaker 2: more touchdowns here the goal line, then obviously sake Jalen
Speaker 2: Hurts isn't getting those. I think Hurts could be more
Speaker 2: efficient as a passer like he was two years ago
Speaker 2: with Kellen Moore there. But I feel about Jalen Hurts
Speaker 2: the same way I feel about Josh Allen. They're my
Speaker 2: top two rated quarterbacks, but in a one quarterback league.
Speaker 2: I'm probably not gonna be targeting then because they do
Speaker 2: have more question marks that they didn't have last year.
Speaker 2: Like for Hurts, it's no, it's a new OC. There's
Speaker 2: no Jason Kelsey there. Saquan is there now who could
Speaker 2: be a threat to goal line touches, but he's still
Speaker 2: so safe. But quarterback is so deep that I will
Speaker 2: wait and get someone else. But in like, I have
Speaker 2: a super flex draft tomorrow and I'm kicking myself because
Speaker 2: I'm the third pick and I'm like the top two
Speaker 2: or just right, it's Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, an easy layup.
Speaker 2: I have to now be the one to Ye and Loki.
Speaker 2: All three of the names that you mentioned are the
Speaker 2: three names. It's my home. I'm probably taking my homes,
Speaker 2: but I'm strongly considering Lamar and Anthony Richardson there. But
Speaker 2: you brought up Dallas Goddard. Yeah, how do you feel
Speaker 2: about him right now?
Speaker 3: He's in that middle spot of the tight ends where
Speaker 3: you're in those late maybe mid to late rounds, where
Speaker 3: you're still looking.
Speaker 4: For a serviceable guy.
Speaker 3: Like I think last year was not like the knockout
Speaker 3: season that we were hoping for him, But I honestly
Speaker 3: think that Dallas godd is still a serviceable tight end
Speaker 3: for Jalen Hurts because we already know there's nobody behind
Speaker 3: him that you have to worry about, because.
Speaker 4: Most of his situation early in his career was dealing
Speaker 4: with zach Ertz.
Speaker 3: Now, I really feel as though Dallas godd has always
Speaker 3: been a productive tight end when given opportunity in decent volume.
Speaker 4: So I'm not really like fading him.
Speaker 3: I'm not really at the point where like there's become
Speaker 3: another mouth to feed, because Saquon Barkley does become another
Speaker 3: mouth to meat. But I think the tight end spot
Speaker 3: and the volume that he'll see will be safe for
Speaker 3: me to go draft dallast and where he's going I am.
Speaker 2: I the closer we get to the season, the more
Speaker 2: and more I am warming up to Dallas Goddard. I
Speaker 2: think last year the Eagles tried to change up a
Speaker 2: lot on offense with the new OC and it did
Speaker 2: not work out, and Dallas Goddard was the one that
Speaker 2: paid the biggest price. He suffered the most. I think
Speaker 2: with Kellen Moore now an OC who runs a pass
Speaker 2: happy offense who likes to throw the ball downfield, likes
Speaker 2: to get his guys in motion and everything. Not only
Speaker 2: am I potentially expecting more scoring, Like, I don't think that.
Speaker 2: I think the Eagles offense is gonna look more like
Speaker 2: it did in the first half or two years ago
Speaker 2: than it did in the second half of last year.
Speaker 2: But like you look at twenty twenty two with the
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys, which Kellen Moore was their OC, Dalton Schultz
Speaker 2: was number two in targets, you could say the same
Speaker 2: thing about twenty twenty one, where he had the same
Speaker 2: number of targets as Amari Cooper, wow, for the second
Speaker 2: most on the team. I think Dallas Goddard, in a
Speaker 2: offense that could pass a little bit more than we
Speaker 2: saw last season, is set for kind of a bounce back.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be used like he was prior
Speaker 2: to last season, and I think last season everyone is
Speaker 2: forgetting how good God it was before that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 2: So to get him outside of the top ten tight
Speaker 2: ends right now, I think is a gift and one
Speaker 2: that I will happily keep taking.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, he's a reliable pass catcher as well, so it's
Speaker 3: not like you're going out there again, the guy that
Speaker 3: has all these question marks, I mean a healthy seventy
Speaker 3: to seventy five percent, even his highest seventy nine percent
Speaker 3: when it comes to this guy's catch right now, that's
Speaker 3: great for a tight end because that's the areas of
Speaker 3: where he becomes a security blanket to get convert on
Speaker 3: these third downs and even a red zone target as well,
Speaker 3: even though I know the touchdown department hasn't been great,
Speaker 3: but these are all pieces that are around him now
Speaker 3: where you finally get a running back that the Eagles
Speaker 3: can rely on, then a run game and do a
Speaker 3: great balance between urpo and then the play action and
Speaker 3: all these great things. This is where the tight end
Speaker 3: lives and breathes to be very serviceable and could be
Speaker 3: a fantasy asset.
Speaker 2: And last year you were paying top five or six
Speaker 2: tight end price again and now he's going outside the
Speaker 2: top ten. If you don't want to leave yourself with
Speaker 2: all your eggs in one basket, you compare him with
Speaker 2: an upside guy like Brock Bauers or T. J. Hockinson
Speaker 2: or David and Joku, who he spoke a lot about earlier.
Speaker 2: He goes a little bit before got her, but you
Speaker 2: know you could make that work and get two tight
Speaker 2: ends that you feel good about. And that's what I
Speaker 2: like to do if I'm waiting on the tight end position.
Speaker 2: All right, Last we we wrap with the Washington commanders,
Speaker 2: and I think the two of us might disagree on
Speaker 2: a couple of ye but their top scores quarterback with
Speaker 2: Sam hal running back, Brian Robinson junior wide receiver was
Speaker 2: my guy, Scary Terry mclaur and tight end Logan Thomas.
Speaker 2: Some of their key losses they lost Sam Hawel. He
Speaker 2: is now backing up Geno Smith. Curtis Samuel is now
Speaker 2: on the Bills. Antonio Gibson is now on the Patriots,
Speaker 2: as is Jacoby Brissett. Their key additions. They used the
Speaker 2: second overall pick on Jayden Daniels. This year, they brought
Speaker 2: in Austin Eckler, They signed Zach Ertz and Marcus Mariota.
Speaker 2: They might be one of the teams that you have
Speaker 2: to wait the longest to get their first off the board,
Speaker 2: because Terry McLaurin a picked seventy six overall.
Speaker 4: Yikes.
Speaker 2: So if you're in a ten team league, you're going
Speaker 2: six rounds without a single Washington Commander going off the board.
Speaker 2: But how many pass catchers do you think Jayden Daniels
Speaker 2: can support.
Speaker 3: If we're having Cliff Kingsbury as the offensive coordinator. I
Speaker 3: can honestly say two and a half. And now that
Speaker 3: half hold on that half maybe a guy that you
Speaker 3: know we're not really looking at, and maybe like an
Speaker 3: Austin Eckler. It maybe a Brian Robinson because I already
Speaker 3: know that Johan Dotson and Arry McLaurin are going to
Speaker 3: be locking up that one and two spot. That's kind
Speaker 3: of how Cliff Kingsbury offense kind of plays out, where
Speaker 3: they're gonna be airing it out and he's gonna have
Speaker 3: two of these wide receivers kind of confusing and causing
Speaker 3: a lot of headaches for these defenses. So that half,
Speaker 3: this is where I feel as though Brian Robinson Junior
Speaker 3: is so underrated as a pass catcher. Where he was
Speaker 3: splitting the role in Antonio Gibson. He was splitting the
Speaker 3: pass catching role even in the red zone Tonio Gibson.
Speaker 4: Where you think these.
Speaker 3: Are areas where a guy like Austin Eckler will come
Speaker 3: in to be a huge threat. I honestly think, man,
Speaker 3: it could be one of these running backs that ends
Speaker 3: up being very heavily involved in this passing game and
Speaker 3: they'll get pushed up in some type of fantasy relevance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely could. I could see that, or I
Speaker 2: could see one of the tight ends as well, like
Speaker 2: Star and then and then the rookie taking over as
Speaker 2: the year goes on. I think that's the route the
Speaker 2: Titans you're going to go as well. But uh, Terry
Speaker 2: McLaurin is someone that I think is underrated. I think
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels you could make the argument that he is
Speaker 2: already going to be the best quarterback that Terry McLaurin
Speaker 2: has ever had. And you could get Terry McLaurin as
Speaker 2: a wide receiver three and I understand that that's what
Speaker 2: he's been the last two years. That's because of quarterback play.
Speaker 2: So you're drafting him much closer to his floor than
Speaker 2: you are his ceiling. And Jahan Dotson, I think you're
Speaker 2: drafting him even below his floor, like he's starting to
Speaker 2: climb in drafts right now. But we saw in the
Speaker 2: first week of the preseason he was playing in the
Speaker 2: slot a lot, and which is very surprising slot wide
Speaker 2: receiver for Cliff Kingsbury is someone that you want on
Speaker 2: your team. Greg George played in that role previously. More
Speaker 2: played in that role previously. He just kingsbury at a
Speaker 2: higher rate than most OC's targets. His slot wide receivers
Speaker 2: plus Dotson is explosive, so it's not like he's a
Speaker 2: slot guy that can gonna have low air yards and
Speaker 2: rely on yak like he can win after the catch,
Speaker 2: but he could also win downfield and you get him
Speaker 2: as outside the top fifty wide receivers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a steal right now because a lot of
Speaker 3: people are just looking at the numbers not really watching
Speaker 3: the film of how he is able to go out
Speaker 3: there and do the things that he's able to do.
Speaker 3: And he had probably at the bottom of the table
Speaker 3: one of the lowest catchuble balls in these last couple
Speaker 3: of seasons, Like Sam, how's my guy? But he wasn't
Speaker 3: able to connect with him very well, which made his
Speaker 3: numbers look the way he looked. Now I understand Johan
Speaker 3: Dotson is not one of the big names out there
Speaker 3: that you're gonna be wanting to take the risk on
Speaker 3: in the draft. But listen in those late rounds where
Speaker 3: it gets scary. After the seventh round, and I'm looking
Speaker 3: at Johan Dotson. You can absolutely believe I'm going to
Speaker 3: be taking those shots on him as a debt piece.
Speaker 2: All right, this is where we're about to disagree. I
Speaker 2: think Austin Eckler in or out.
Speaker 4: I am out, man, I am out.
Speaker 3: I gotta be out because I don't know if we're
Speaker 3: getting the Austin Eckler that we know in Love where
Speaker 3: he's sharing a backfield back in LA with the Chargers
Speaker 3: when he had Melvin Gordon to split with. I think
Speaker 3: we're getting Austin Eckler who's more beat up now where
Speaker 3: he's trying to find a season where he could be healthy.
Speaker 3: And now I understand that he is a guy that
Speaker 3: needs to be able to split the touches where you're
Speaker 3: splitting with a Beast right now, you're splitting with Brian
Speaker 3: Robinson Junior.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no no, no, let's just.
Speaker 4: No go on.
Speaker 2: I'm curious. Austin Eckler is the goal on Beast here,
Speaker 2: this was the goal on. This is my biggest beef
Speaker 2: is everyone is just assuming that and I'm not saying you,
Speaker 2: but the fantasy community largely are assuming Brian Robinson is
Speaker 2: the goal line back and I get it.
Speaker 4: You's an angry runner.
Speaker 2: You look, you watch him run, you look at his size,
Speaker 2: you look at Alston Eckler, and you're like, that is
Speaker 2: the bigger guy that I want there. But last season,
Speaker 2: Robinson turned twenty percent of his goal line touches to touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Austin Eckler, in his worst year, turned forty five percent
Speaker 2: of his goal line carries, And if you go for
Speaker 2: the last two years, Eckler's goal on carries to touchdown
Speaker 2: rate is double Brian Robinson's.
Speaker 3: Yes, but that Commander's offensive line was God, it was hideous,
Speaker 3: like they couldn't block anything. They almost had Sam Howe
Speaker 3: on a stretcher every single week. So I'm looking at
Speaker 3: their run game. What he was able to produce four
Speaker 3: point one yards per carry isn't great, but that's the
Speaker 3: ugly four yards that you want your running.
Speaker 2: Back to have at least to have that where it's at.
Speaker 3: I don't think Austin Eckler is that productive runner anymore,
Speaker 3: where he'll kind of be put in in roles where
Speaker 3: he'll be scripted in Brian Rominson Junior as to all
Speaker 3: the round guy as RB one. I think Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 3: is going to realize that eventually midway through the season,
Speaker 3: where this could be his backfield, that he runs away
Speaker 3: way into the playoffs.
Speaker 2: See I not just like I think for that to happen,
Speaker 2: Alstin Eckler would need to just be cooked. Like I think.
Speaker 2: If Eckler is still I think there is a chance
Speaker 2: that Austin Eckler could look like Alstin Eckler rolled again.
Speaker 2: Because last season Week one high ankle spraining, we know
Speaker 2: that could be a season killer for some. He lands
Speaker 2: on the ir He comes back four weeks later and immediately,
Speaker 2: per per Austin Eckler straight from the horse's mouth, sprained
Speaker 2: his other ankle immediately, and then we know the slog
Speaker 2: that was the Chargers offense down the stretch. They had
Speaker 2: no Keenan Allen, no Mike Williams, no Justin Herbert. Their
Speaker 2: olan was extremely banged up. So I think last year
Speaker 2: was just a complete lost year for Austin Eckler. Now
Speaker 2: I do think he not only do I think he
Speaker 2: is affected near the goal line. I think the reason
Speaker 2: why he is so effective is because if they bring
Speaker 2: in Brian Robinson, the whole stadium knows he's running it
Speaker 2: up the middle. If you bring it al Sin Eckler,
Speaker 2: you have no idea if he's gonna run it, if
Speaker 2: they're gonna throw it, what they're gonna do. So I
Speaker 2: think that trickery a little bit makes it a little bit.
Speaker 2: It's more advantageous for the offense to have a player
Speaker 2: like that, in my opinion. It's why I keep saying, like, yo,
Speaker 2: everyone last year was like Jamior Gibbs can't get a
Speaker 2: job near the goal line. It's gonna be David Montgomery's.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, but Gibbs brings that Eckler type effect
Speaker 2: where you have no idea what they are going to do.
Speaker 2: So if Eckler could get some I'm not saying he's
Speaker 2: gonna be his old self, but if he has that
Speaker 2: old burst, I think he could run away with the job.
Speaker 2: And the only difference is you get alsin Eckler outside
Speaker 2: the top ten rounds. Right now, it is insanely cheap
Speaker 2: for me. And look, I have long since before it
Speaker 2: was cool. I go back to pre COVID when I
Speaker 2: was an alsin Eckler guy fighting on these Twitter streets here,
Speaker 2: and back then it was Melvin Gordon. No way is
Speaker 2: Elson gonna get goal on work with Melvin Gordon. There,
Speaker 2: I'm going out the way I came in with eler Man.
Speaker 2: I'm never giving up on u X so I'm hoping
Speaker 2: you are right. But at the same point, I will say,
Speaker 2: if you don't believe in Austin Eckler, Brian Robinson is
Speaker 2: also very cheap and and you can take your shots
Speaker 2: on him there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's very cheap man.
Speaker 3: He's the guy that you can get in those later rounds.
Speaker 3: I just feel as though if Cliff Kingsbury looks at
Speaker 3: Austin Eckler as the Chase Edmonds of the Arizona Cardinals backfield,
Speaker 3: I think it's more likely to lean to that fence
Speaker 3: and where he becomes the pass catching back. But I
Speaker 3: really do feel like Brian Robinson Junior is getting slept
Speaker 3: on man. But you know, we'll have a friendly battle man.
Speaker 3: But we'll see it's as you know, that's the John
Speaker 3: news Smith. No, no, no, we're not going blonde for
Speaker 3: every bet.
Speaker 2: No, we shave our head like aler. No. I'm good.
Speaker 2: Last look, there's another commander here, rookie that's getting some hype.
Speaker 2: Ben sanat the tight end. But they signed Zach Ertz
Speaker 2: this offseason we saw last year, like we were talking
Speaker 2: with the with Cooper and Cooper yeah over at Canton
Speaker 2: this year and basically Zach Ertz is brought in to
Speaker 2: train a young tight end and then he yeses and
Speaker 2: first it was Dallas Goddard, then it was Trey McBride.
Speaker 2: Do you think we see the same thing with Ben
Speaker 2: sonat absolutely.
Speaker 4: I think we honestly see him pass.
Speaker 3: The torch a little bit earlier, because it's kind of
Speaker 3: been that story with Dallas Goddter with the Eagles. It
Speaker 3: took some time for that torch to be passed, but
Speaker 3: then when he got to the Cardinals, it got a
Speaker 3: little bit sooner when we were able to get Trey
Speaker 3: McBride on the field and show how explosive he is
Speaker 3: and how great he is. Now, Ben Senna is not
Speaker 3: to be slept on at all. He's one of those
Speaker 3: guys that is very, very crucial when it comes to
Speaker 3: the middle of the field and create the open space
Speaker 3: and create after that. I love what I've seen on
Speaker 3: tape from Ben sennet to where I feel as though
Speaker 3: this torch may be passed a little bit sooner than expected,
Speaker 3: because I'm not sure Zach Ertz has anything left in
Speaker 3: the tank. To me, how I'm looking at this, he's
Speaker 3: a tight end coach in the room. He's basically going
Speaker 3: to be showing him how to install this offense because
Speaker 3: he's very familiar with it.
Speaker 2: He's worked with.
Speaker 3: Cliff Kingsbury in the Arizona Cardinals. So it's more of
Speaker 3: those situations where like, I like that they brung in
Speaker 3: zach ertzt to kind of jump start and install this
Speaker 3: system for the rookie.
Speaker 2: And that's why, because I'm with you, I like Sana
Speaker 2: as a sleeper, but I think he was one of
Speaker 2: those players that the person who drafts him isn't going
Speaker 2: to reap the rewards because I think zach Ertz will
Speaker 2: be a thorn in the side for at least a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. Yeah, and we have to remember it
Speaker 2: is as much as I love Jayden Daniels, it is
Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback. There's gonna be some early growing pains. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think Sanat like McBride could break out in the
Speaker 2: middle part of the season. And if you take a
Speaker 2: rookie tight end with your last round pick, you're gonna
Speaker 2: drop him before he breaks out there. Watchless. Yes, that's
Speaker 2: the type. I think. He's a watchless guy, not a
Speaker 2: one you want to draft, but I certainly think he
Speaker 2: could break out come the middle to later portion of
Speaker 2: the season. But lakwan, I'm just gonna hand the stage
Speaker 2: over to you right now. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Man, Uh, there were some news yesterday, man, and I
Speaker 3: kind of felt weird about it where I was hearing it,
Speaker 3: like I usually dump on Tavon Austin, like I usually
Speaker 3: use him as the bar for the speedsters, like it's
Speaker 3: either you go to Tavon Austin route.
Speaker 2: Or you go the Tyreek Hill route.
Speaker 3: And honestly, man, I caught myself watching a lot of
Speaker 3: Tavon Austin tape yesterday, and I got a little emotional, man,
Speaker 3: because when I think about it, like that twenty thirteen era,
Speaker 3: like it was very very hard to be a Rams fan,
Speaker 3: Like it was to the point where like you're literally
Speaker 3: watching the game just to see Tavon Austin do one
Speaker 3: explosive play, just to bring some energy to a Rams
Speaker 3: game because you're out there looking at this team, like, man,
Speaker 3: this offense ain't it. I Mean, you got Sean Hill
Speaker 3: at quarterback, you got a freaking Austin Davis at quarterback
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold, I mean Sam Bradford injured from here and
Speaker 3: there to where it's becoming hard to actually watch these
Speaker 3: games and be able to like enjoy it. So Taevon Austin,
Speaker 3: I thank you for the many, many years you carried
Speaker 3: this Rams team from twenty thirteen all the way up
Speaker 3: into twenty seventeen to make these games watchable because he
Speaker 3: was just so explosive man, and you had to honestly think, like,
Speaker 3: how is this guy able to do the things he's doing.
Speaker 3: Like the one of my favorite plays from him is
Speaker 3: definitely against the Raiders. He gets it off on the
Speaker 3: screen and he makes five people miss. If you go
Speaker 3: to my TikTok, I did a video just watching that clip,
Speaker 3: and I'm just amazing the things he was.
Speaker 4: Able to do. And he was also he had a
Speaker 4: game against the Colts real quick.
Speaker 3: This dude had three targets, two catches for one hundred
Speaker 3: and thirty eight yards, two touchdowns, a fifty seven yard game,
Speaker 3: yes his Randy Moss game, a fifty seven yard touchdown,
Speaker 3: and an eighty one yard touchdown. This is the type
Speaker 3: of player he was, and just you just wish that
Speaker 3: he had a better situation, a better offensive mind coach,
Speaker 3: and a better quarterback, a consistent quarterback that could stay healthy.
Speaker 3: Man one of those players that the fantasy numbers don't
Speaker 3: do just now. He was a better real life player.
Speaker 2: And hey, look, we'll always have his college tape because
Speaker 2: the college tape Man, the best college tape. Like throw
Speaker 2: down one day and sit back and enjoy because exactly
Speaker 2: you're in for retreat. It is some of the best
Speaker 2: tape you will ever watch. But that is gonna do
Speaker 2: it for us today. We held it down while Marcus
Speaker 2: is out. The degenerates. Two degenerates here talking some fantasy football.
Speaker 2: That'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy
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