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Speaker 1: Wow, what's up everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the NFL Fantasy Football Show. I'm not Marcus Grant.

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Speaker 2: I'm Michael lef Floyal filling in for Marcus Grant leading

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Speaker 2: the way right now. But me and Lakwan Jones, we

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Speaker 2: are gonna be holding it down. Oh, I forgot to

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Speaker 2: do Marcus's read. It's Wednesday, August fourteen, twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: where sleep is starting to become a luxury. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: is very true, especially for this guy. I can you

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Speaker 2: catch him on GMFB every morning, bright and early. But yeah, Lakwan,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna get right into it. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of football stuff to talk about right now. JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 2: under one a full meniscus prepair and is out for

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Speaker 2: this season. So and at the time of recording, there

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Speaker 2: is reports going around the internet right now that Jordan

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Speaker 2: Addison was carted off and suffered a serious injury as well.

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Speaker 2: We will await official word on that. But what does

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Speaker 2: this mean now that it looks like it will be

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Speaker 2: Sam Donald, what does this mean for the Vikings pass catchers? Man?

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Speaker 3: I mean, this might be a rough season for these guys, because, honestly,

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Speaker 3: how I'm looking at it is the universe is kind

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Speaker 3: of doing its adjustment because we already kind of figured

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Speaker 3: that JJ McCarthy was going to be on the bench

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Speaker 3: for some time until Sam Donald struggled, But now that

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Speaker 3: he's out for the season, it's kind of like, Man,

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Speaker 3: we're stuck with Sam Donald. So I'm really curious to

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Speaker 3: see if we're gonna get like a Ryan Tannehill to

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Speaker 3: maybe sign. And the little mention of Jordan Addison, I

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Speaker 3: mean we kind of were suspecting some type of suspension, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, hopefully he's okay, man, But honestly, this is

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Speaker 3: rough for the Vikings and terrible for Vikings fans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was fading Jordan Addison already. But Justin

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Speaker 2: Jefferson obviously is quarterback proof. And for those who don't

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Speaker 2: believe me, he played four games without Kirk Cousins last season.

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Speaker 2: He was on pace in those four games if you

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Speaker 2: made it a seventeen game pace for a hundred eighty

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Speaker 2: seven targets and over two thousand and two hundred yards.

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Speaker 2: So Justin Jefferson is going to get his But I

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Speaker 2: will say I I already was considering this much of

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Speaker 2: the offseason, but I have just went ahead and did it.

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Speaker 2: I have now moved aj Brown ahead of Justin Jefferson,

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Speaker 2: so JJ is outside He's six, but he is outside

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Speaker 2: of my top five wide receivers as of right now.

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Speaker 2: But do you have any interests and look not, I

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Speaker 2: don't want a standard one quarterback league answers, Probably no,

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Speaker 2: but maybe not. Any interest in drafting Sam.

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Speaker 4: Darnold absolutely not. I mean even in the superflex leagues

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Speaker 4: that we're in.

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Speaker 3: Man Like, I can't see myself drafting him because we

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Speaker 3: kind of know what he is like. He's been the

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Speaker 3: same type of guy since he's had his exit, you know,

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Speaker 3: from the New York Jets, I mean Carolina Panthers. He

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Speaker 3: had that small spur where he was able to be

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Speaker 3: relevant the first four weeks and then he fell completely

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Speaker 3: off of a cliff and then we never heard of

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Speaker 3: him again. And now he's in a situation where the

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Speaker 3: pressures on he has to be the top tier quarterback

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Speaker 3: to be able to lift this team up if they're

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Speaker 3: gonna be dealing with all these injuries, because we have

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Speaker 3: to remember T. J. Hockinson's also coming back from injury.

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Speaker 3: And now with this reporter Jordan Addison, what's really left

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Speaker 3: of this offense other than Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 2: That is a fair point. But I will raise you

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Speaker 2: one Nick Mullins from last year. Nick Mullens, let me three.

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Speaker 2: He started four games and one of them he threw

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Speaker 2: for three or three and two and one. He through

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Speaker 2: three ninety six and two. Now there's lots of interceptions.

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Speaker 4: He had more interceptions than the I'm about to say.

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Speaker 2: I think Sam Darnold could be a very similar type

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Speaker 2: of player where he puts up numbers because koc is

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Speaker 2: going to dial up a lot of pass plays. They

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Speaker 2: were the third highest pass rate in the NFL last year.

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Speaker 2: But there's gonna be bad interceptions and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: So in a one quarterback league, I'm not interested. But

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Speaker 2: in a super flex I can get especially in one

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Speaker 2: where I wait on my QB two, which is what

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Speaker 2: I do. In super flex, me Will Levis and Sam

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Speaker 2: figure it out week. So it gonna be stressed, but

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Speaker 2: are having those fun yolo type of games. Uh, good

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Speaker 2: news a little bit. No injury is good news. Jamier

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Speaker 2: Gibbs suffered a string hamstring in practice, but Dan Campbell

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Speaker 2: came out today and said he thinks that he's fine.

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Speaker 2: He does not. It does not seem like week one

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Speaker 2: is in question. So are you still comfortable using a

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Speaker 2: first round pick on Jamior Gibbs.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this if I'm on the back end of

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Speaker 3: the first round, No, because there's likelihood that he might

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Speaker 3: fall to you in the second round with this hamstring

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Speaker 3: I'm hoping league mates are kind of panicking right now

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Speaker 3: and you let him get by in the first round

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Speaker 3: and say you're at the one ten spot and that

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Speaker 3: you get him at that two of three spot, I

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Speaker 3: honestly think that's a win to where like I can

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Speaker 3: pivot and grab that primary wide receiver that I really

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Speaker 3: want on the back end because Gibbs there, He's making

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Speaker 3: me have some hard choices back there because you have

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Speaker 3: Pokin Nakoul, you have Garrett Wilson, but Gibbs is so

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Speaker 3: so explosive where you want to have that ten touchdown

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Speaker 3: season that he had last year. So I'm like looking

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Speaker 3: at it like this may be a win if you

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Speaker 3: have other league mats, so you should be jumping in

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Speaker 3: your league mats DM, Like, Yo, did you see the

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Speaker 3: Gibbs injury, Like that's what you should be doing right now.

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Speaker 2: See to me, everything you just said I agree with.

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Speaker 2: But I will always take the wide receiver in the

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Speaker 2: first round because I feel like there's a big tier.

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Speaker 2: And you can tell me if you disagree, But like

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Speaker 2: I put Gibbs in the tier with Saquon, with Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 2: I'll even put like Kyen Williams, Derek Henry, and Za

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Speaker 2: Pacheco in that team. Yeah, and I'm guarantee and Travis

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Speaker 2: DTN and I'm guaranteed to get one of them in

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Speaker 2: round two. I'm not guaranteed to get one of those

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Speaker 2: top ten wide receivers with true ADP is shaking out.

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Speaker 2: That is true.

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Speaker 4: Definitely, that is definitely true. I didn't think about it

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Speaker 3: In my home league, I can get Gibbs in my

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Speaker 3: second round because I'm at the one ten spot.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, let's get that gun. If you're in the

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Speaker 2: Kwan's home leagues, take ten friends, listen, don't take them

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Speaker 2: in the first round. I mean, everyone else, you could

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Speaker 3: My friends think I'm like on here playing fake and

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Speaker 3: like I'm doing Hollywood stuff where I'm just lying about

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Speaker 3: players that I like but I really hate.

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Speaker 4: But no, they're not listening.

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Speaker 2: It is the worst because everyone knows who you like

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Speaker 2: going into drafts and they will make sure to grab

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Speaker 2: them before it is your facts to select. Speaking of driving,

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Speaker 2: right now, it is time to drive your draft presented

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Speaker 2: by the all new hybrid Toyota Camry, and we are

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Speaker 2: gonna talk handcuff running backs. So lakwan how handcuffs are

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Speaker 2: always a hot button issue in fantasy right some people

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Speaker 2: believe like I don't want to leave my drafts without

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Speaker 2: my handcuffs. Other people are like, I'm gonna let my

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Speaker 2: handcuffs sit out there, and I'm gonna grab other people's

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Speaker 2: handcuffs and hope that their guys get hurt and not mine.

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Speaker 2: How do you like to handle handcuff running backs and redraft?

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Speaker 3: So in redraft, like it comes to situation where the

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Speaker 3: handcuff needs to make sense, Like obviously, if you're gonna

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Speaker 3: be risking it at all with Devon a Chan in

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Speaker 3: those early rounds and you can get Raheem moster probably

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Speaker 3: like four or five rounds later, why not make that

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Speaker 3: handcuff so you can secure your situation here at the

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Speaker 3: running back position, because honestly, you know my opinion, I've

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Speaker 3: got on here and gotten them this mike enough to

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Speaker 3: tell you that Devon a Chan is going to break

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Speaker 3: a ton of hearts into twenty twenty four. So therefore,

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Speaker 3: make yourself safe and get Raheem moster in those later rounds.

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Speaker 3: So there's other situations where like Jamier Gibbs and David

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Speaker 3: Montgomery that is a hot handcuff top topic, because like

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Speaker 3: it feels like Monty might be going in the rounds

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Speaker 3: where you like the wide receiver, so it makes it

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Speaker 3: a little bit more difficult to.

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Speaker 2: Pull that trigger. Good to call a handcuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's kind of what the situation is.

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Speaker 3: Like, I feel like it's a Kareem Hunt and Nick

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Speaker 3: Chubb situation where you can actually start both of them.

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Speaker 4: They could both be fantasy relevant. So it's some of those.

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Speaker 3: Situations where like, ah, I don't know if I can

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Speaker 3: pull the trigger and redraft right now, being that you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe David Montgomery might be going around some.

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Speaker 4: Guys that I really really like at other positions.

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Speaker 2: Which makes sense, and to me, see that's to me,

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Speaker 2: a handcuff is not a player who's going in like

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Speaker 2: the top five rounds, which is why like David Montgomery,

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Speaker 2: I think is his own standalone entity kind of although

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Speaker 2: a team last year my homely drafted him and Gibbs

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Speaker 2: and rolled them to a champion. Wrote them it can

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Speaker 2: sometimes it works, It easily can work. But where I

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Speaker 2: like to target handcuffs is where there's a clear cut backup.

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Speaker 2: I don't want a situation where like say, like's Denver

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Speaker 2: Javonte gets hurt and all of a sudden, now there's

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Speaker 2: four running backs on the roster and it's like we

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Speaker 2: don't know what. No, no, no. That's why like Blake

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Speaker 2: Korham to me, is one of the top handcuffs this year.

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Speaker 2: I know your guy Tray Benson falls in that group.

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Speaker 2: Ray Davis, I would put in that group. These are

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Speaker 2: guys that if the starters go down, the backup can

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Speaker 2: just slide in. Is gonna get Look, they're not gonna

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Speaker 2: be what the starter is, but they could be seventy

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Speaker 2: five percent of that or something like that.

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Speaker 3: They'll get the touches. That's all that matters. Volumus key here,

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Speaker 3: So I'm agree with you.

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Speaker 2: And those are the situations where especially Blake Korm Kyen

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Speaker 2: Williams has a history of injuries, Trey Benson, James Connor

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Speaker 2: has a history of missing never has played seventeen games

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Speaker 2: in his career, such as wild Those are the kind

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Speaker 2: of situations I like to get my handcuffs. And now

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Speaker 2: if I take Javon C. Williams, I'm not taking any

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Speaker 2: of the other Broncos running back or something like that

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Speaker 2: where it's a murky situation, but when we know it's

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Speaker 2: one clearcut guy and the guy doesn't go for a

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Speaker 2: very steep price, Yeah, I'm okay pairing them together.

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, man, I mean I definitely agree with that.

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Speaker 3: And there's other situations with Jonathan Brooks and chewba Herber. Yep,

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Speaker 3: that's a great example of like, hey, I might as

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Speaker 3: well grab Chuba Hubber because if Jonathan Brooks is not

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Speaker 3: third down a lot of times, and he's a guy

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Speaker 3: that can somewhat run routes. So it's a situation there's

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Speaker 3: really nobody behind him that can take those touches from

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Speaker 3: if Jonathan Brooks isn't ready yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are you a grab your handcuff, grab someone else's handcuff.

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Speaker 4: I'm goa grab somebody else's handcuff. I'm very toxic, leagues.

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Speaker 2: I'm largely that way unless my starter is like Kien

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Speaker 2: Williams or James Connor, is someone like I feel like

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Speaker 2: this guy's probably gonna miss some time. Yeah, then I

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Speaker 2: want to get that backup just in case. That was

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Speaker 2: the Fantasy for NFL Fantasy Football Show. All right, welcome

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Speaker 2: back to the NFL Fantasy Football Show. I just realized

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Speaker 2: Marcus doesn't bring it back from breaks like that, But

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Speaker 2: I'm not Marcus. So that's how we're doing it today.

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Speaker 2: We're talking like I said, NFC East, we've been going

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Speaker 2: alphabetically the whole time. So don't assume that just because

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Speaker 2: don't don't be weird. That should just be a rule

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna start in big d Dallas. How about

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Speaker 2: them Cowboys last season? Obviously, their top quarterback was Dak

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Speaker 2: Prescott went on to score nearly three hundred and fifty points.

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Speaker 2: Tony Pollard there RB one he no longer plays there,

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Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb was not just their wide receiver one, he

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Speaker 2: was the world's wide receiver one fact. And then Jake

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Speaker 2: is back where he belongs. Because look, you might not

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Speaker 2: think Zeke is the same Zeke because he's not but

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Speaker 2: I will tell you he looks better with the star

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Speaker 4: It was very weird to see him in the Patriots jersey,

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Speaker 4: like what are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: Something's just fit and that was one of them. They

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Speaker 2: Lakwan first off the board for the Cowboys C D

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Speaker 2: with C. D Lamb, he is holding out right now.

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Speaker 3: Here, and oh wait, my star wide receivers has the

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Speaker 4: Like he's going to hear this.

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Speaker 2: I love that. Michael Parson also retweeted it and was

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Speaker 2: like showing, yeah, yeah, but how I keep up Until

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Speaker 2: this point, I've been saying I'm not worried yet. I

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Speaker 3: I think more so you're worried someome comes to your

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Speaker 4: Like I always love those situations.

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Speaker 3: But then I always remember when Le'Veon Bell did hold

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's that. I just I don't maybe I'm crazy.

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Speaker 2: I find myself a lot less worried with Cedee Lamb.

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Speaker 2: Like he knows the playbook, he knows he is the offense.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, yeah, who is in the Dallas so

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Speaker 2: like the volume is going to be there everything. I'm

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Speaker 2: just makes too much sense for Lamb to want to

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Speaker 2: so with this this day, and particularly like we're gonna

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Speaker 2: If I am wrong, there is no way Cede Lamb

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Speaker 2: because I think they're gonna lock him up beyond this year.

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Speaker 2: But the only even if I'm starting to worry right now,

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Speaker 2: like if I'm drafting the only wide receiver I could

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Speaker 2: even see my Like if you want to go Tyreek Hill,

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Speaker 2: I have no beef there because I think it's a

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Speaker 2: him ahead of him too, I'm okay with that. Three

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Speaker 2: is the absolute latest I would let Lamb fall us.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, but you'll you'll get You'll get some people.

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Speaker 3: Out there that are just like, oh, I'll just avoid

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Speaker 3: just got ceedee Lamb at the one oh five, Like

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Speaker 3: thank you. Now I can restructure my strategy and my

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Speaker 3: love when you get blessed with those type of gifts

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Speaker 3: because it's like, man, you go ahead and be worry

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Speaker 3: Nancy or whatever you call it that I don't know

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Speaker 3: the saying so negative negative Nancy or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Listen, listen, it's close enough to what I'm.

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Speaker 2: Trying to say, war or negative worry wart.

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Speaker 4: I like that. I never heard that.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, man, I'm not really worried.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to be losing the sleep over CD Lamb.

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Speaker 3: I know they're gonna make the contract right, they got

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Speaker 3: to pay them, man. They just better hope that Brandon

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Speaker 2: This is a conversation for another day. I don't know

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Speaker 2: why the Cowboys didn't sign CD six months ago. Yes

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Speaker 2: for a J. Brown, before all these contracts got signed,

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Speaker 2: not after, but just to put it in a perspective that

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Speaker 2: he was their offense. He had a hundred more targets

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Speaker 2: one one hundred. So with that in mind, Lakwan who

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Speaker 3: I mean it will probably look like it's Brandon Cooks,

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Speaker 3: But Ferguson had over one hundred targets, and I feel

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Speaker 3: more so where I'm looking at, Dak has a healthy

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Speaker 3: really feel as though there's a healthy target share where

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And last year he was the number two target.

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Speaker 2: He had one hundred and two targets CD had one

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Speaker 2: and then as the year went on, it was just evident,

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Speaker 2: like Jake Ferguson is our guy. Yeah. Not only do

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Speaker 2: I think he's the number two target, Lakwan, I think

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Speaker 2: do you want to put him the Porto McBride, Kelsey

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, then there's a second group of Kincaid, Pitts, Kittle. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely it's Ferguson and then David and Joku. For me,

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Speaker 3: those are the two people I've kind of been stacking

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Speaker 3: right there, just so you can get that out of

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Speaker 3: the way and keep building your roster how you're building

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Speaker 2: And look, we said, he looks better with a star

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Speaker 2: on his helmet. But how much does Ezekiel Elliott at

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Speaker 2: twenty nine oh three weeks ago, how much does he

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Speaker 3: Ten Did you see that video on training came where

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Speaker 2: He got hit somewhere and people were trying to.

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Speaker 4: Not give you that pask listen.

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Speaker 3: I feel like he was the old man walking through

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Speaker 2: Oh man, old man, zeke man.

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Speaker 3: But twenty nine's not old man, but I honestly think

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Speaker 4: Tony Pollard got more involved in that backfield.

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Speaker 3: I think Zeke what's going to really save him as

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Speaker 3: his involvement in the passing game, because Zeke was not

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Speaker 3: terrible last year, Like I don't want to put dirt

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Speaker 3: when he had that star in his helmet, you know

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Speaker 3: I feel like the roles will be split between him

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I have them almost back to back in my rankings. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And the thing is, I have I think Zeke higher

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Speaker 4: Even if it's bad product, He's just gonna put him

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be like, Yo, get this guy the ball out.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think Zeke ever fully fades, And I

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Speaker 2: Rico was kind of used very sparingly there last year.

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Speaker 2: He'll be I think it's possible we could see these

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Speaker 2: stuff like that. And look, this is what Zeke had

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Speaker 2: back for the New England Patriots. He averaged less than

433
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 2: three yards per carry. It was disgustingly bad on the ground,

434
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,399
Speaker 2: but in those six games, thirty nine targets, thirty one catches,

435
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,199
Speaker 2: almost two hundred yards. I had him because I had

436
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 2: romondra Stevenson. He was my handcuff. He helped win me

437
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 2: a championship because he was just PPR in his way.

438
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 2: It was growth exactly. He didn't want to watch it,

439
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 2: but at the end of the dame, he'd be like, wow,

440
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 2: Z gave me fifteen.

441
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:24,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean at the end of the day.

442
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 3: Like That's why I think will save his fantasy relevance

443
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 3: and why you're still drafting Zeke because of his involvement

444
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 3: in the passing game, and Dak is definitely gonna be

445
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 3: dumping it down to him if the pressure's on, or

446
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 3: if there's gonna be a design play for Zeke to

447
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,640
Speaker 3: get more involved in the passing game as he goes on,

448
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 3: because like I said, I don't see Zeke being the

449
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 3: ground to pound guy that we loved in once upon

450
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 3: a time. I think that's gonna be Rico's role to

451
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 3: kind of get some of those converting third downs, try

452
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 3: to get some of those situational, you know, first downs.

453
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 4: As well, because he gives you a little bit burst,

454
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:55,880
Speaker 4: gives you a little.

455
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 3: Bit more you know, excitement out of that backfield to

456
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 3: be the guy that can get outside, hit that corner

457
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 3: and possibly take it to the house. I don't know

458
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 3: if Rico has that in the tank right now, but

459
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 3: I think he's a little bit more motivated that they

460
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 3: didn't go out and get a Derrick Henry. They didn't

461
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 3: go out and get a JK Dobmas. They brung a

462
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 3: guy they're kind of familiar with and he's on the

463
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,679
Speaker 3: back of his career. So I think this might be

464
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 3: a season where Rico might blossom into something in twenty

465
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 3: twenty five.

466
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 2: He I think, is the one that gives you more

467
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 2: upside of the two. But I think Zeke's floor is

468
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 2: at least to start the year. Like, if I needed

469
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 2: to start one of these guys week one.

470
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 4: I don't look, you don't want to be I hope

471
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 4: you're not in that situation.

472
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 2: I hope you're not either. But week one, I think

473
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 2: long term upside Rico all day, but week one I

474
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 2: would feel the volume safe.

475
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Volan would definitely be key for you.

476
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 3: And like I said, man, it's gonna be nasty, So

477
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 3: don't go out there expecting, like you know, fifteen points

478
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 3: from Zeke in week one.

479
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 4: Man, this is gonna be a slow dog walk, so

480
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 4: give us some time.

481
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 2: These guys are going around to like ten to eleven

482
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 2: for a reason, so you could even grab both of

483
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 2: them and just hope that one hits because they are

484
00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 2: so cheap. Moving into your backyard though in New Jersey,

485
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 2: I know the New York Giants, but he's a Jersey guy.

486
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 2: You're Tommy da Vito. Hey was somehow their highest scoring

487
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 2: quarter I was shocked by that. Yes, I loved Look,

488
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: no one had more fun with Tommy DeVito than me

489
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 2: with the skits I was doing on Fantasy Live and stuff.

490
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 2: When I saw that he has scored more points than

491
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 2: anyone else for the Giants at the quarterback position last year,

492
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 2: I was a little shook it. Oh, sekuon Barkley, we

493
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: know he was the RB one there for them. Gave

494
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 2: you over two hundred and twenty points. Their wide receiver

495
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 2: one was Darius Slaton, let's go at one hundred and

496
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 2: fifty one points. And then Darren Waller, despite all the

497
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 2: miss time and yeah the sad rap songs that he

498
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 2: was writing, finished as their tight end one. He is

499
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: now retired. Some key losses for the Giants. Obviously, Saque

500
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: went down to Philly. We're gonna talk about that more

501
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: a little bit later on the show. Serling Shepherd left

502
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: the Giants. I believe he retired.

503
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think he is now the Raiders.

504
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: Oh, he's on the Raiders. Tarad Taylor did not even

505
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: need to move. He stays in the same building, but

506
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: he left the Giants. He now plays for the Jets

507
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 2: key editions Brian Burns. That was their big get this offseason,

508
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: but they also signed Devin Singletary. There's a lot of

509
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 2: familiarity with Motor Table and Drew Locke as some insurance

510
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: for Danny Dimes Lakwan. I feel like a lot of

511
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: us have gone full circle with mylik Neighbors this offseason.

512
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: Like for me, he was my favorite wide receiver in

513
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: the draft. Then he goes to the Giants and I'm like,

514
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: I don't really love this landing spot. And now I'm

515
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: fully on board as talk taking him as a breakout

516
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 2: wide receiver. What is the earliest you're willing to take

517
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: Molak Neighbors?

518
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 4: Man, this is rough. This is rough.

519
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 3: I mean they're gonna clip this, but it's rough. I

520
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 3: feel like I'm on a full fade campaign of Molak Neighbors.

521
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: But I would say, like the fifth round will probably

522
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 3: be the earliest I would take him. But let me

523
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 3: let me iron out my case. Why Like this is

524
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 3: why like QB play matters a ton when it comes

525
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: to these dynamic players, Like I don't want to say

526
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 3: he's QB proof because he has not played.

527
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: You really said on Fantasy Live today that Milik neighbors

528
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: is ko.

529
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm sorry, but listen, I definitely heard

530
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 3: you say that.

531
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 2: Dude. That's what's crazy.

532
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 3: But I don't want to say his QB proof is

533
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 3: based on he hasn't played a NFL snap, And like,

534
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: I think it's very important because there's guys that will

535
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 3: have a thousand yards and have over one hundred targets

536
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 3: with a high percentage of a target share on the

537
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 3: team because there's nobody else And that's kind of similar

538
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: to the situation where he's in. But you have guys

539
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 3: like DeAndre Hopkins, George Pikins, Terr McLaurin, Drake London, and

540
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson.

541
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 4: All these guys.

542
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: Were top tier target share guys, but they only averaging

543
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 3: were capped out to thirteen Fantasy points per game.

544
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 4: And these guys I can't really touch when they're going

545
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 4: in those early rounds.

546
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 3: I'd rather pivot to someone that has a higher touchdown ceiling,

547
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: that has a more i would say not mid tier

548
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 3: quarterback that can go out there and really or do

549
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 3: some offensive drive.

550
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 4: So it's like I'm still a little hesitant.

551
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 3: Man. I love watching this film. He's like one like

552
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: if we had to go back in time. Out of

553
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 3: the Big three, my Lleigu Neighbors is definitely my favorite

554
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 3: one mine as well, like definitely over Marvin Harrison and

555
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: over Roaming Dounesday. But going to the Giants it kind

556
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: of just took me back a little bit, man, which.

557
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 2: I think is a lot of people's concern, and YE say,

558
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: fair and valid concern. The earliest. I would take him

559
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: his round three, which probably sounds crazy, but when you're

560
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: drafting with people like us who do this every day,

561
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: that's where you have to take you have to. But

562
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: in home leagues, and I keep saying this, I think

563
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: running backs are gonna get pulled up in home leagues

564
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: because not everyone. The first three rounds are not gonna

565
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 2: be almost thirty enough like they are in a lot

566
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: of our expert drafts. So I think in home leagues

567
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 2: there's a chance he falls to the fourth or fifth round,

568
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 2: and I'd be all over that. But just like you,

569
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: I love the talent. He was my favorite in this class.

570
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: He is such a threat to win downfield, but he

571
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: is just a threat to take a one yard pass

572
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 2: and take at the distance for a touchdown. And watching

573
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: hard Knocks offseason, you see how like he was their

574
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: number one as well, he was Brian Dables number one

575
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: as well. In this exactly, I think this offense is

576
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: going to revolve around them, which is like I know

577
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: you said, like Drake London as wanting. If Drake London

578
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: had volume as a rookie, I think he would have produced,

579
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 2: but it was the usage that really dragged him down.

580
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 2: You mentioned Garrett Wilson. Garrett Wilson was a wide receiver

581
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 2: one when he didn't have Zach Wilson out.

582
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, Joe Fla and.

583
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: I think this is easily the best wide receiver Danny

584
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: Dimes has ever had ever so and we have seen

585
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: it before. We've seen it with Wilson, with Jalen Waddle,

586
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, a rookie wide receiver like this,

587
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: the elite guys I'm not even talking about like a

588
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: first round talent, like top ten wide receiver picks. They

589
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 2: just changed their offense and they changed their their dynamics.

590
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: So I'm hoping that neighbors can have that effect where

591
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 2: he's the Giants up yeah, just because he's so good. Oh,

592
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: not someone I would want on at that price in

593
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: all of my drafts, but definitely someone that I'm pretty

594
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 2: bullish on. Now. I agree, I have him as a

595
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: as a wide receiver two in my ranks. He's in

596
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: my top twenty four.

597
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 4: Top twenty four.

598
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: That's not that's not even bad when we're talking about it,

599
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 3: and it's like, I feel like it all depends on

600
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: your roster structure of how you start off that draft.

601
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: So if you go the first two rounds and you

602
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: get a wide receiver, and then if Malik Neighbors is

603
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: still on the board in that third, fourth round, then

604
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 3: you can go ahead and draft him as like the

605
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: wide receiver three slash flex in most of these formats

606
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 3: where I'm like, Okay, I can breathe at night, I

607
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: could sleep at night.

608
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: Well yeah, brief at of course, but I could sleep

609
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: at night. If you're not breathing, we got some problems.

610
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, what's going on with me today?

611
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 3: But definitely one of those situations like price matters, situational

612
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 3: matters of how you're building your roster. But me, if

613
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 3: he's still want to be my wide receiver two feels

614
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 3: a little nasty to me, man, it does it just does.

615
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: I get that, and a lot of the times I'm

616
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: starting wide receiver wide receivers, So for me, he's a

617
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: three in a lot of this.

618
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 3: This is the year to do it, man, if you

619
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: really are a fan of Laitue Neighbors, like I really

620
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: feel like that's the only proper way this could be

621
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: done without pulling your hair out every Sunday.

622
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Next year, I think there is a very good

623
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: chance that Milite Neighbors is going in the first round

624
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: of Fantasy.

625
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're going to get a quarterback, right.

626
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: They're gonna do something there, and he's gonna show up

627
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 2: and show out as my man right here, likes to say,

628
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: the entire internet and not not really just those fantasy nerds. Yeah.

629
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: Came to a complete halt on Monday when it was

630
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: announced that Teneral Tracy left practice on a card, was

631
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: in an air cast, looked like it might be really severe,

632
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: and then like an hour later and was like, oh, no,

633
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: it's just a routine sprain. He'll be okay. So everyone

634
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 2: was able to breathe. But is everyone's favorite deep sleeper

635
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: right now? Are we a little too hyped? On him.

636
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 3: H Yes, I think we're a little too hype because

637
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: we also have to remember what offense he's on. We're

638
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: on a giant offense that really couldn't produce much. Even

639
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: when Danny dimes in those early games in the season,

640
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: they couldn't convert. They weren't a high scoring team. And

641
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: I think this is kind of the same situation with

642
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: the only edition of Malik Neavis the Running Game. We

643
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: still need to figure out Andy's behind Devin Singletary, who

644
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: took over that backfield in Houston once Damian Pierce went

645
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: down with injury, so he was a serviceable back, And

646
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: that's kind of still the same situation. Like if you

647
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: were watching Hard Knocks and you see they were talking

648
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: about Devin Singletary and he's always been a guy that

649
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 3: can produce. He's a guy that's been a serviceable RB

650
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 3: one for a lot of these teams, Like even going

651
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: back to Buffalo, like he really had you know, Frank

652
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: Gore behind him, he really had you know, James Cook

653
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: behind Zach Moss, and like he had all these running

654
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: backs and he was holding them off just based on

655
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: the type of player he is. So more so we

656
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: definitely need to do a temperature check on how high

657
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: we are liking this guy and kind of let him develop.

658
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: I still am on board with Tracy right. Look, it

659
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: would not I'm not saying Devin Singletary is gonna get benched,

660
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: but it would not be the first time Brian Dable

661
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: has benched him. Oh that is true, he has done.

662
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 4: They forget about it.

663
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: He did try to make Zach Moss a thing for

664
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,479
Speaker 2: a while and that just didn't work out. And then

665
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: there was at one point when Dable was the OC,

666
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: they just literally completely abandoned the run and there was

667
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,959
Speaker 2: a playoff game where Josh Allen in one half had

668
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: their only rushing attempt. It was insane. I think Devin

669
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: Singletary though, was a really good value. But the thing

670
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: is Tracy to me, at least watching them play last week.

671
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: Not only did he look good and that's why I

672
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: like him because of the burst and the explosiveness that

673
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: he possesses, but he played eleven of the thirteen snaps

674
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: on the giants first three drives. He had all of

675
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 2: their RB carries. He looked like the RB two. Now

676
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: Eric Ray came in and played well after Tracy, but

677
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you to draft this guy as a

678
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: flex or anything like that. I just like him as

679
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: a later round dart throw. Yeah, because if something happens

680
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: to Devin Singletary, he is next in.

681
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: Line, No, most definitely, And like I always think back

682
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 3: when he still was with Buffalo those last final six

683
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: seven games that he was there in twenty twenty two,

684
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: and it was like, I mean twenty twenty yeah, twenty

685
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: twenty two, this dude was averaging over five point zero

686
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 3: yards per carry and I was just like, oh, he's

687
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: being very productive. And they started giving him more touches

688
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: as the back end of the season happened, and I think,

689
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: you know, Brian Dabo, hopefully he doesn't mention him again,

690
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: because I really do like Devin Singletary for what he is.

691
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: He's such a serviceable back man. Then he might hold

692
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: off the rookie anday yo, man, you know, chill out

693
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 3: for a little bit and let me get the work

694
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: and get things going again.

695
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: And the reason I think that twenty twenty two season

696
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: and last year for Singletary matters so much more than

697
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: his early season career because he shout out to Tyler Dune.

698
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: He's a writer up in Buffalo, coming into the twenty

699
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: twenty two season, he did this whole feature piece on

700
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: Devin Singletary about how he Singletary himself was like, I

701
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: am the type of running back that does not last

702
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: long in this league. I need to add more speed

703
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: and more explosiveness. And he went to a special coach

704
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: to do so, and he has looked like a different

705
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: runner he has, so it really has I think that

706
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: is something to note again, just just a good backup that, like,

707
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: I don't think you should be drafting him as anything more.

708
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah than that. Speaking of sleepers here, and I hope

709
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: we're on the same line of thought here, but Theil

710
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: Johnson deep sleeper or.

711
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: Not deep sleeper, for sure, He's one of those tight

712
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: ends that if you know you miss out on your guys,

713
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: you miss out on the players that you love in

714
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: those later rounds at tight end. Like I'm a John

715
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: new Smith guy, but I'm looking at THEO Johnson in

716
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: some of those areas late in those drafts where I'm like,

717
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: let me take some THEO Johnson just to see how

718
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: this blossoms out.

719
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 4: Because the dude is a freak athlete.

720
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: He might be falling into that category where like, oh, Yeah,

721
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 3: he's gonna hit the ground running no matter what. And

722
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 3: this offense is Giants offense outside of the league, Neighbors,

723
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: They're looking for guys to step up. They're looking for

724
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: guys that could really start and hit the ground running

725
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: because they need this spark. And you know, Daniel Jones

726
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 3: needs that security blanket. He needs somebody that can really

727
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 3: dump off and a guy like Theo Johnson's very athletic

728
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 3: that becomes a had zone threat as well, so where

729
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: touchdowns are definitely on the table.

730
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: Man. That is exactly why I'm on board Theo Johnson.

731
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: Let's go six six, two hundred and fifty pounds.

732
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: That is a man.

733
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: If he was in Game of Thrones, he would be

734
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: the mountain. Like he is massive, He's gonna be utilized.

735
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: I think there is a good chance he could lead

736
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: this team in red zone targets, like because he is

737
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: that big, I would expect Malik Neighbors to but I

738
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: think the look. Plus it's also the situation. Like last season,

739
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: I was super bullish on Sam Laporta. I did not

740
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: think he was gonna be the tight end one. Let's

741
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: start there. Yeah, it was partially because I liked his talent,

742
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 2: But more than that, I like the situation he was in.

743
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: You look at the depth chart for the Lions tight

744
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: ends last year and you were like, none of these

745
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: guys have ever done anything in R Well, yeah, and

746
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: they went and they just used the premium pick on

747
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: this guy. Now you look at the Giants, he has

748
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: to beat out Daniel Bellinger and he's a tight end one.

749
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: I think there's a good chance we see him on

750
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: the field a whole lot for the Giants. I think

751
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: he can be a top twenty tight end mate with

752
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: a little bit more upside. And he's gonna go and

753
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: drafted in almost all of your all.

754
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 3: Your leagues, Like there's no home link right now that

755
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: I promise you have Theo Johnson on the radar unless

756
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: they're listening to this great podcast.

757
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: And even in a home league, I'm not sure you

758
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: should draft like I'm taking him in Best Ball and

759
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: stuff like that where we're going. If you're in a

760
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: deep league, yes, but in your traditional twelve team with

761
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: like four or five bench spots, he's more of a

762
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: name to keep an eye on on the waiver wire. Yeah.

763
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 4: Watchless, watchless, Watchless.

764
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: Take advantage of that.

765
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 4: Watchless add all of the underrated feature.

766
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: Man, you're not.

767
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: Gonna remember them. No a month from now, You're not,

768
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: But we will, we said Saku and went to the

769
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: From the New York Giants to the Philadelphia Eagles. I

770
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: have a little bit of a funny story on that,

771
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: but we're gonna talk about what it means for fantasy

772
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: as well when we come back here in the NFL

773
00:34:51,920 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 2: Fantasy Football Show. Welcome back to the NFL Fantasy Football Show.

774
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: So obviously the big news with the Philadelphia Eagles, but

775
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: before I get into that, let's go through their top scores.

776
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 2: It was Jalen Hurts, obviously, it was DeAndre Swift obviously,

777
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: AJ Brown and Dallas Goddard. You all probably knew that

778
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: off the top of your head. Key losses. Jason Kelsey retired,

779
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: which I think is a big deal, huge, dal Letcher

780
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: Cox left, DeAndre Swift left, Hassan Reddick left, and he

781
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: doesn't want to be in with the Jets anymore either.

782
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 2: Let's just their key addition, Saquon, Devonte Parker, and Kenny Pickett.

783
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: First player off the board is Saquon Barkley. And I

784
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: was in New York this offseason the day Saquon Barkley

785
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: signed with the Eagles, and let me tell you New

786
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: York like Tiki Barbera was on the fan losing his

787
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: mind and like, I think he really wanted to throw

788
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: hands with Saquan at that moment. Like it was so

789
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 2: funny as a non Giants fan in live time to

790
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: see all the Giants fans, I know, just freaking out

791
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: that this guy not only left but went to their vision.

792
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 4: Right.

793
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 3: Oh, it's getting real oppy outside because he just went

794
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 3: to the Rivals, Like I could not believe this move,

795
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: and then watching Hard Knocks, the move makes so much sense.

796
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 2: How they.

797
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 4: Like, I I what did he say on the phone?

798
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: He was like, I told you where I want to

799
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: be at and that was like a hidden thing to

800
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 3: where I was like, he's talking about the money, he

801
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: ain't talking about the situation at the Giants.

802
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 2: I think it was twofold. I think he I think

803
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: he's wanted to play for as a Pennsylvania guy went

804
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: to the state. I think he's wanted to be an

805
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: Eagle for a while.

806
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 3: Oh for sure the winning team. As his daughter would say,

807
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: though we're winning on the winning team now, yes, yeah

808
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 3: they are.

809
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: The Giants have had a lot of Sorry, Giant fans.

810
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: We talked about your team very commonly a little while ago.

811
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: Exactly it is time to see who will deliver. Presented

812
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 2: by Uber Eats. So sticking with Saquon Barkley Lakwan more

813
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 2: or less ten total touchdowns.

814
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: A man, I'm say less, but I'm gonna say at

815
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: nine it's gonna be right there, Like it's gonna be

816
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: right there to the point where I feel like there's

817
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 3: gonna be a great dynamic between him and Jalen Hurts

818
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 3: where that red zone duty is gonna get split in half.

819
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 3: And I really think that Sakuon Barkley doesn't have that

820
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: burst to take it to the house anymore. It's gonna

821
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 3: be more so close to distance of where a lot

822
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 3: of his touchdowns are gonna come. And I'm gonna include

823
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 3: maybe some receiving touchdowns in that nine as well. So

824
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 3: I really feel as though nine is where I can

825
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: set it. At ten, I'll be very very surprised if

826
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: he hits more than ten.

827
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 2: I'm going with more here we go and double digits. Look,

828
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: I know everyone is gonna be like, oh, well, the

829
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: Toush push, the Toush push. He's gonna Jalen Hurts is

830
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,439
Speaker 2: gonna volt Sakuon Barkley had the same number of goal

831
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: one carries last year as DeAndre Swift. It's not like

832
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: the Giants were getting to the goal line very now,

833
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: and he had ten touchdowns last season. But even more

834
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: than that, it's the best offense he's ever played in,

835
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: best quarterback, best wide receivers. He's gonna get more scoring.

836
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: He's gonna be on an offense at least with more

837
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: scoring opportunities than he's ever been before. But even I like,

838
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: I think Saquon was brought in because the Eagles are like,

839
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: maybe we shouldn't be running Jalen Hurts at the goal

840
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: line more than any player in the NFL did last year.

841
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: I still think the touch push is gonna be in

842
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: their playbook. But without Kelsey there, and with Hurts getting

843
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: another year older, and now you have a running back

844
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: that you could trust and that you're paying like Saquon Barkley,

845
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see him get more goal on

846
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: usage than people might be thinking.

847
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 4: No, I can see that.

848
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: I can see that just based on how Jalen Hurts

849
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: was still a dynamic red zone thread even before the

850
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: Toush push became like such a trendy thing, Like I

851
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: do see that happening.

852
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 4: But Saquon, man.

853
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 3: Stay healthy because I have you in a lot of

854
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 3: my leagues, Because I really feel as though this would

855
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: be a great situation for him all around as a

856
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: pass catcher on the ground and being in an opportunity

857
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: to be on the Eagles who create a lot of

858
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 3: scoring opportunities. So hopefully, man, we have a good fantasy

859
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: outcome when it comes to Saquon Barkley and an Eagles jersey.

860
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,320
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863
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: so we're talking a lot about Saguin Barkley, what his

864
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: goal on usage is going to be, all of that.

865
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: How much do you think Saquon impacts Jalen Hurt's ceiling?

866
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 2: Not by much?

867
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: Like we're still looking at Jalen Hurts as a top

868
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: three quarterback right, Like I really feel as though he's

869
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: still that threat even outside of the pocket, even to

870
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: make the big plays by AJ Brown and with Davonte

871
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 3: Smith and don't forget about Dallas godd It there man, he's.

872
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 4: Still there as well.

873
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: So I really feel as though this is an all

874
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 3: around great situation having all these pieces around him where

875
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: he could still be in that top three conversation when

876
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 3: it comes to these quarterbacks, because to me, it's Josh

877
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: Allen and then it's Jalen Hurts, and then it could

878
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: be whoever you want to put at that three spot.

879
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: It could be Mahomes, it could be Lamar Jackson, it

880
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 3: could be even Anthony Richardson. Man, So I really feel

881
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: as though you have Jalen Hurts still in that conversation

882
00:39:59,239 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 3: as a top guy.

883
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: As I wear for you listeners. I haven't Anthony Richardson

884
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: right now. I've been shown it off all damn five

885
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: off this year. I do think it hurts the upside

886
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: of Hurts though, because if he's if Saquon is getting

887
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 2: more touchdowns here the goal line, then obviously sake Jalen

888
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: Hurts isn't getting those. I think Hurts could be more

889
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: efficient as a passer like he was two years ago

890
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: with Kellen Moore there. But I feel about Jalen Hurts

891
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: the same way I feel about Josh Allen. They're my

892
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: top two rated quarterbacks, but in a one quarterback league.

893
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 2: I'm probably not gonna be targeting then because they do

894
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: have more question marks that they didn't have last year.

895
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: Like for Hurts, it's no, it's a new OC. There's

896
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: no Jason Kelsey there. Saquan is there now who could

897
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 2: be a threat to goal line touches, but he's still

898
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: so safe. But quarterback is so deep that I will

899
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: wait and get someone else. But in like, I have

900
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: a super flex draft tomorrow and I'm kicking myself because

901
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: I'm the third pick and I'm like the top two

902
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: or just right, it's Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, an easy layup.

903
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: I have to now be the one to Ye and Loki.

904
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 2: All three of the names that you mentioned are the

905
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: three names. It's my home. I'm probably taking my homes,

906
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: but I'm strongly considering Lamar and Anthony Richardson there. But

907
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 2: you brought up Dallas Goddard. Yeah, how do you feel

908
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: about him right now?

909
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: He's in that middle spot of the tight ends where

910
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 3: you're in those late maybe mid to late rounds, where

911
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: you're still looking.

912
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 4: For a serviceable guy.

913
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 3: Like I think last year was not like the knockout

914
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: season that we were hoping for him, But I honestly

915
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: think that Dallas godd is still a serviceable tight end

916
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 3: for Jalen Hurts because we already know there's nobody behind

917
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: him that you have to worry about, because.

918
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,959
Speaker 4: Most of his situation early in his career was dealing

919
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 4: with zach Ertz.

920
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: Now, I really feel as though Dallas godd has always

921
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 3: been a productive tight end when given opportunity in decent volume.

922
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 4: So I'm not really like fading him.

923
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,959
Speaker 3: I'm not really at the point where like there's become

924
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: another mouth to feed, because Saquon Barkley does become another

925
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 3: mouth to meat. But I think the tight end spot

926
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: and the volume that he'll see will be safe for

927
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 3: me to go draft dallast and where he's going I am.

928
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 2: I the closer we get to the season, the more

929
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: and more I am warming up to Dallas Goddard. I

930
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: think last year the Eagles tried to change up a

931
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: lot on offense with the new OC and it did

932
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: not work out, and Dallas Goddard was the one that

933
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 2: paid the biggest price. He suffered the most. I think

934
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: with Kellen Moore now an OC who runs a pass

935
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: happy offense who likes to throw the ball downfield, likes

936
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: to get his guys in motion and everything. Not only

937
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: am I potentially expecting more scoring, Like, I don't think that.

938
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: I think the Eagles offense is gonna look more like

939
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 2: it did in the first half or two years ago

940
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: than it did in the second half of last year.

941
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 2: But like you look at twenty twenty two with the

942
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys, which Kellen Moore was their OC, Dalton Schultz

943
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,959
Speaker 2: was number two in targets, you could say the same

944
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: thing about twenty twenty one, where he had the same

945
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: number of targets as Amari Cooper, wow, for the second

946
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: most on the team. I think Dallas Goddard, in a

947
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: offense that could pass a little bit more than we

948
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: saw last season, is set for kind of a bounce back.

949
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be used like he was prior

950
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: to last season, and I think last season everyone is

951
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: forgetting how good God it was before that.

952
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what it is.

953
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: So to get him outside of the top ten tight

954
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: ends right now, I think is a gift and one

955
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 2: that I will happily keep taking.

956
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: Absolutely, he's a reliable pass catcher as well, so it's

957
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 3: not like you're going out there again, the guy that

958
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: has all these question marks, I mean a healthy seventy

959
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 3: to seventy five percent, even his highest seventy nine percent

960
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: when it comes to this guy's catch right now, that's

961
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: great for a tight end because that's the areas of

962
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 3: where he becomes a security blanket to get convert on

963
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,479
Speaker 3: these third downs and even a red zone target as well,

964
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: even though I know the touchdown department hasn't been great,

965
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 3: but these are all pieces that are around him now

966
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: where you finally get a running back that the Eagles

967
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 3: can rely on, then a run game and do a

968
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: great balance between urpo and then the play action and

969
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: all these great things. This is where the tight end

970
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 3: lives and breathes to be very serviceable and could be

971
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 3: a fantasy asset.

972
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: And last year you were paying top five or six

973
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: tight end price again and now he's going outside the

974
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: top ten. If you don't want to leave yourself with

975
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: all your eggs in one basket, you compare him with

976
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: an upside guy like Brock Bauers or T. J. Hockinson

977
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: or David and Joku, who he spoke a lot about earlier.

978
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: He goes a little bit before got her, but you

979
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 2: know you could make that work and get two tight

980
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: ends that you feel good about. And that's what I

981
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: like to do if I'm waiting on the tight end position.

982
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: All right, Last we we wrap with the Washington commanders,

983
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: and I think the two of us might disagree on

984
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: a couple of ye but their top scores quarterback with

985
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: Sam hal running back, Brian Robinson junior wide receiver was

986
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: my guy, Scary Terry mclaur and tight end Logan Thomas.

987
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: Some of their key losses they lost Sam Hawel. He

988
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: is now backing up Geno Smith. Curtis Samuel is now

989
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: on the Bills. Antonio Gibson is now on the Patriots,

990
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: as is Jacoby Brissett. Their key additions. They used the

991
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: second overall pick on Jayden Daniels. This year, they brought

992
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: in Austin Eckler, They signed Zach Ertz and Marcus Mariota.

993
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 2: They might be one of the teams that you have

994
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: to wait the longest to get their first off the board,

995
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 2: because Terry McLaurin a picked seventy six overall.

996
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 4: Yikes.

997
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: So if you're in a ten team league, you're going

998
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 2: six rounds without a single Washington Commander going off the board.

999
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: But how many pass catchers do you think Jayden Daniels

1000
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 2: can support.

1001
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: If we're having Cliff Kingsbury as the offensive coordinator. I

1002
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: can honestly say two and a half. And now that

1003
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: half hold on that half maybe a guy that you

1004
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: know we're not really looking at, and maybe like an

1005
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: Austin Eckler. It maybe a Brian Robinson because I already

1006
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: know that Johan Dotson and Arry McLaurin are going to

1007
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: be locking up that one and two spot. That's kind

1008
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 3: of how Cliff Kingsbury offense kind of plays out, where

1009
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 3: they're gonna be airing it out and he's gonna have

1010
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: two of these wide receivers kind of confusing and causing

1011
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 3: a lot of headaches for these defenses. So that half,

1012
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: this is where I feel as though Brian Robinson Junior

1013
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: is so underrated as a pass catcher. Where he was

1014
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: splitting the role in Antonio Gibson. He was splitting the

1015
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: pass catching role even in the red zone Tonio Gibson.

1016
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 4: Where you think these.

1017
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 3: Are areas where a guy like Austin Eckler will come

1018
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: in to be a huge threat. I honestly think, man,

1019
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 3: it could be one of these running backs that ends

1020
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 3: up being very heavily involved in this passing game and

1021
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: they'll get pushed up in some type of fantasy relevance.

1022
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely could. I could see that, or I

1023
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: could see one of the tight ends as well, like

1024
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 2: Star and then and then the rookie taking over as

1025
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: the year goes on. I think that's the route the

1026
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 2: Titans you're going to go as well. But uh, Terry

1027
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: McLaurin is someone that I think is underrated. I think

1028
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels you could make the argument that he is

1029
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: already going to be the best quarterback that Terry McLaurin

1030
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: has ever had. And you could get Terry McLaurin as

1031
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 2: a wide receiver three and I understand that that's what

1032
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: he's been the last two years. That's because of quarterback play.

1033
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: So you're drafting him much closer to his floor than

1034
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: you are his ceiling. And Jahan Dotson, I think you're

1035
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: drafting him even below his floor, like he's starting to

1036
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: climb in drafts right now. But we saw in the

1037
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 2: first week of the preseason he was playing in the

1038
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: slot a lot, and which is very surprising slot wide

1039
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: receiver for Cliff Kingsbury is someone that you want on

1040
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 2: your team. Greg George played in that role previously. More

1041
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: played in that role previously. He just kingsbury at a

1042
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: higher rate than most OC's targets. His slot wide receivers

1043
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: plus Dotson is explosive, so it's not like he's a

1044
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: slot guy that can gonna have low air yards and

1045
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: rely on yak like he can win after the catch,

1046
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: but he could also win downfield and you get him

1047
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 2: as outside the top fifty wide receivers.

1048
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a steal right now because a lot of

1049
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 3: people are just looking at the numbers not really watching

1050
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 3: the film of how he is able to go out

1051
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 3: there and do the things that he's able to do.

1052
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 3: And he had probably at the bottom of the table

1053
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 3: one of the lowest catchuble balls in these last couple

1054
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 3: of seasons, Like Sam, how's my guy? But he wasn't

1055
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: able to connect with him very well, which made his

1056
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 3: numbers look the way he looked. Now I understand Johan

1057
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 3: Dotson is not one of the big names out there

1058
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: that you're gonna be wanting to take the risk on

1059
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 3: in the draft. But listen in those late rounds where

1060
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: it gets scary. After the seventh round, and I'm looking

1061
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 3: at Johan Dotson. You can absolutely believe I'm going to

1062
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 3: be taking those shots on him as a debt piece.

1063
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: All right, this is where we're about to disagree. I

1064
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 2: think Austin Eckler in or out.

1065
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 4: I am out, man, I am out.

1066
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: I gotta be out because I don't know if we're

1067
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: getting the Austin Eckler that we know in Love where

1068
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: he's sharing a backfield back in LA with the Chargers

1069
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 3: when he had Melvin Gordon to split with. I think

1070
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 3: we're getting Austin Eckler who's more beat up now where

1071
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 3: he's trying to find a season where he could be healthy.

1072
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: And now I understand that he is a guy that

1073
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 3: needs to be able to split the touches where you're

1074
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 3: splitting with a Beast right now, you're splitting with Brian

1075
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: Robinson Junior.

1076
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 2: No no, no, no no, no, let's just.

1077
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 4: No go on.

1078
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 2: I'm curious. Austin Eckler is the goal on Beast here,

1079
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: this was the goal on. This is my biggest beef

1080
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: is everyone is just assuming that and I'm not saying you,

1081
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: but the fantasy community largely are assuming Brian Robinson is

1082
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: the goal line back and I get it.

1083
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 4: You's an angry runner.

1084
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 2: You look, you watch him run, you look at his size,

1085
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: you look at Alston Eckler, and you're like, that is

1086
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 2: the bigger guy that I want there. But last season,

1087
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 2: Robinson turned twenty percent of his goal line touches to touchdowns.

1088
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 2: Austin Eckler, in his worst year, turned forty five percent

1089
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: of his goal line carries, And if you go for

1090
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: the last two years, Eckler's goal on carries to touchdown

1091
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: rate is double Brian Robinson's.

1092
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 3: Yes, but that Commander's offensive line was God, it was hideous,

1093
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 3: like they couldn't block anything. They almost had Sam Howe

1094
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 3: on a stretcher every single week. So I'm looking at

1095
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 3: their run game. What he was able to produce four

1096
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: point one yards per carry isn't great, but that's the

1097
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 3: ugly four yards that you want your running.

1098
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: Back to have at least to have that where it's at.

1099
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 3: I don't think Austin Eckler is that productive runner anymore,

1100
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,479
Speaker 3: where he'll kind of be put in in roles where

1101
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 3: he'll be scripted in Brian Rominson Junior as to all

1102
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 3: the round guy as RB one. I think Cliff Kingsbury

1103
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: is going to realize that eventually midway through the season,

1104
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: where this could be his backfield, that he runs away

1105
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: way into the playoffs.

1106
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 2: See I not just like I think for that to happen,

1107
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: Alstin Eckler would need to just be cooked. Like I think.

1108
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: If Eckler is still I think there is a chance

1109
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 2: that Austin Eckler could look like Alstin Eckler rolled again.

1110
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: Because last season Week one high ankle spraining, we know

1111
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 2: that could be a season killer for some. He lands

1112
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 2: on the ir He comes back four weeks later and immediately,

1113
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: per per Austin Eckler straight from the horse's mouth, sprained

1114
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 2: his other ankle immediately, and then we know the slog

1115
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: that was the Chargers offense down the stretch. They had

1116
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: no Keenan Allen, no Mike Williams, no Justin Herbert. Their

1117
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: olan was extremely banged up. So I think last year

1118
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: was just a complete lost year for Austin Eckler. Now

1119
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 2: I do think he not only do I think he

1120
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 2: is affected near the goal line. I think the reason

1121
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 2: why he is so effective is because if they bring

1122
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: in Brian Robinson, the whole stadium knows he's running it

1123
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 2: up the middle. If you bring it al Sin Eckler,

1124
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: you have no idea if he's gonna run it, if

1125
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: they're gonna throw it, what they're gonna do. So I

1126
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: think that trickery a little bit makes it a little bit.

1127
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 2: It's more advantageous for the offense to have a player

1128
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 2: like that, in my opinion. It's why I keep saying, like, yo,

1129
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: everyone last year was like Jamior Gibbs can't get a

1130
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 2: job near the goal line. It's gonna be David Montgomery's.

1131
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: And I'm like, but Gibbs brings that Eckler type effect

1132
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 2: where you have no idea what they are going to do.

1133
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 2: So if Eckler could get some I'm not saying he's

1134
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 2: gonna be his old self, but if he has that

1135
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: old burst, I think he could run away with the job.

1136
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 2: And the only difference is you get alsin Eckler outside

1137
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: the top ten rounds. Right now, it is insanely cheap

1138
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 2: for me. And look, I have long since before it

1139
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: was cool. I go back to pre COVID when I

1140
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: was an alsin Eckler guy fighting on these Twitter streets here,

1141
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: and back then it was Melvin Gordon. No way is

1142
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: Elson gonna get goal on work with Melvin Gordon. There,

1143
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: I'm going out the way I came in with eler Man.

1144
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: I'm never giving up on u X so I'm hoping

1145
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: you are right. But at the same point, I will say,

1146
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: if you don't believe in Austin Eckler, Brian Robinson is

1147
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: also very cheap and and you can take your shots

1148
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 2: on him there.

1149
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's very cheap man.

1150
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 3: He's the guy that you can get in those later rounds.

1151
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 3: I just feel as though if Cliff Kingsbury looks at

1152
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 3: Austin Eckler as the Chase Edmonds of the Arizona Cardinals backfield,

1153
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 3: I think it's more likely to lean to that fence

1154
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: and where he becomes the pass catching back. But I

1155
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 3: really do feel like Brian Robinson Junior is getting slept

1156
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 3: on man. But you know, we'll have a friendly battle man.

1157
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 3: But we'll see it's as you know, that's the John

1158
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: news Smith. No, no, no, we're not going blonde for

1159
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 3: every bet.

1160
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 2: No, we shave our head like aler. No. I'm good.

1161
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 2: Last look, there's another commander here, rookie that's getting some hype.

1162
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: Ben sanat the tight end. But they signed Zach Ertz

1163
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 2: this offseason we saw last year, like we were talking

1164
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 2: with the with Cooper and Cooper yeah over at Canton

1165
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: this year and basically Zach Ertz is brought in to

1166
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 2: train a young tight end and then he yeses and

1167
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: first it was Dallas Goddard, then it was Trey McBride.

1168
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: Do you think we see the same thing with Ben

1169
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 2: sonat absolutely.

1170
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 4: I think we honestly see him pass.

1171
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 3: The torch a little bit earlier, because it's kind of

1172
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 3: been that story with Dallas Goddter with the Eagles. It

1173
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 3: took some time for that torch to be passed, but

1174
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 3: then when he got to the Cardinals, it got a

1175
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: little bit sooner when we were able to get Trey

1176
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 3: McBride on the field and show how explosive he is

1177
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 3: and how great he is. Now, Ben Senna is not

1178
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: to be slept on at all. He's one of those

1179
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 3: guys that is very, very crucial when it comes to

1180
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 3: the middle of the field and create the open space

1181
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 3: and create after that. I love what I've seen on

1182
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 3: tape from Ben sennet to where I feel as though

1183
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 3: this torch may be passed a little bit sooner than expected,

1184
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: because I'm not sure Zach Ertz has anything left in

1185
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 3: the tank. To me, how I'm looking at this, he's

1186
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 3: a tight end coach in the room. He's basically going

1187
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 3: to be showing him how to install this offense because

1188
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 3: he's very familiar with it.

1189
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 2: He's worked with.

1190
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 3: Cliff Kingsbury in the Arizona Cardinals. So it's more of

1191
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 3: those situations where like, I like that they brung in

1192
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: zach ertzt to kind of jump start and install this

1193
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 3: system for the rookie.

1194
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: And that's why, because I'm with you, I like Sana

1195
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 2: as a sleeper, but I think he was one of

1196
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: those players that the person who drafts him isn't going

1197
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 2: to reap the rewards because I think zach Ertz will

1198
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 2: be a thorn in the side for at least a

1199
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. Yeah, and we have to remember it

1200
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: is as much as I love Jayden Daniels, it is

1201
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback. There's gonna be some early growing pains. Yeah.

1202
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: I think Sanat like McBride could break out in the

1203
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: middle part of the season. And if you take a

1204
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: rookie tight end with your last round pick, you're gonna

1205
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 2: drop him before he breaks out there. Watchless. Yes, that's

1206
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 2: the type. I think. He's a watchless guy, not a

1207
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: one you want to draft, but I certainly think he

1208
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: could break out come the middle to later portion of

1209
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: the season. But lakwan, I'm just gonna hand the stage

1210
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: over to you right now. Yeah.

1211
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 3: Man, Uh, there were some news yesterday, man, and I

1212
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 3: kind of felt weird about it where I was hearing it,

1213
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 3: like I usually dump on Tavon Austin, like I usually

1214
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 3: use him as the bar for the speedsters, like it's

1215
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 3: either you go to Tavon Austin route.

1216
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 2: Or you go the Tyreek Hill route.

1217
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 3: And honestly, man, I caught myself watching a lot of

1218
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: Tavon Austin tape yesterday, and I got a little emotional, man,

1219
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 3: because when I think about it, like that twenty thirteen era,

1220
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,959
Speaker 3: like it was very very hard to be a Rams fan,

1221
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 3: Like it was to the point where like you're literally

1222
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 3: watching the game just to see Tavon Austin do one

1223
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 3: explosive play, just to bring some energy to a Rams

1224
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 3: game because you're out there looking at this team, like, man,

1225
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: this offense ain't it. I Mean, you got Sean Hill

1226
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: at quarterback, you got a freaking Austin Davis at quarterback

1227
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold, I mean Sam Bradford injured from here and

1228
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 3: there to where it's becoming hard to actually watch these

1229
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 3: games and be able to like enjoy it. So Taevon Austin,

1230
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 3: I thank you for the many, many years you carried

1231
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 3: this Rams team from twenty thirteen all the way up

1232
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 3: into twenty seventeen to make these games watchable because he

1233
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 3: was just so explosive man, and you had to honestly think, like,

1234
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 3: how is this guy able to do the things he's doing.

1235
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 3: Like the one of my favorite plays from him is

1236
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 3: definitely against the Raiders. He gets it off on the

1237
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 3: screen and he makes five people miss. If you go

1238
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 3: to my TikTok, I did a video just watching that clip,

1239
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 3: and I'm just amazing the things he was.

1240
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 4: Able to do. And he was also he had a

1241
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 4: game against the Colts real quick.

1242
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 3: This dude had three targets, two catches for one hundred

1243
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 3: and thirty eight yards, two touchdowns, a fifty seven yard game,

1244
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 3: yes his Randy Moss game, a fifty seven yard touchdown,

1245
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 3: and an eighty one yard touchdown. This is the type

1246
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 3: of player he was, and just you just wish that

1247
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 3: he had a better situation, a better offensive mind coach,

1248
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 3: and a better quarterback, a consistent quarterback that could stay healthy.

1249
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 3: Man one of those players that the fantasy numbers don't

1250
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 3: do just now. He was a better real life player.

1251
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 2: And hey, look, we'll always have his college tape because

1252
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: the college tape Man, the best college tape. Like throw

1253
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 2: down one day and sit back and enjoy because exactly

1254
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: you're in for retreat. It is some of the best

1255
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: tape you will ever watch. But that is gonna do

1256
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 2: it for us today. We held it down while Marcus

1257
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: is out. The degenerates. Two degenerates here talking some fantasy football.

1258
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 2: That'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy

1259
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: Football Podcast. Stay happy, safe and healthy, do good and

1260
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: live well, and we'll talk to you tomorrow.