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Speaker 1: this pillow. You elaborate more on what the DHS is
Speaker 1: UH connection with the d n C was. Consultation with
Speaker 1: the d n C was after he became aware of
Speaker 1: the hacking and they became aware of the hacking as
Speaker 1: to what was off of them, what they accepted. Was
Speaker 1: there any level of cooperation at all? Um, to my disappointment,
Speaker 1: not to my knowledge, sir um. And this is a
Speaker 1: question I asked repeatedly when I first learned of it.
Speaker 1: You know, what are we doing? Are we in there?
Speaker 1: Are we helping them discover the vulnerabilities? Because this was
Speaker 1: fresh off the o p M experience, and there was
Speaker 1: a point at which DHS cybersecurity experts did get into
Speaker 1: O p M and actually helped them discover the bad
Speaker 1: actors and patch some of the ex filtrations or at
Speaker 1: least minimize some of the damage. And so I was
Speaker 1: anxious to know whether or not our folks were in there.
Speaker 1: And the response I got was FBI had spoken to them, Uh,
Speaker 1: they don't want our help. They have CrowdStrike. The cybersecurity firm.
Speaker 1: And that was the answer I got after I asked
Speaker 1: the question a number of times over the progression of time,
Speaker 1: that was assumed totally different from the action you got
Speaker 1: from O p M. UH the O p M effort.
Speaker 1: We were actually in there on site helping them UM
Speaker 1: find the bad actors. Do you know who it was
Speaker 1: at the d n C who made that decision? Who
Speaker 1: was making I don't resistant. Do you know if the
Speaker 1: FBI continued to try to help try to assist I have.
Speaker 1: I've read in the New York Times about those efforts
Speaker 1: UM sometime earlier this year. Let me just be very clear,
Speaker 1: at no point during my tenure at the d n
Speaker 1: C was I contacted by the FBI, DHS or any
Speaker 1: government agency or alerted or made aware that they believed
Speaker 1: that the Russians a an enemy state, wasn't shooting on
Speaker 1: our network at no point. And I am a member
Speaker 1: of Congress US who had the ability to sit down
Speaker 1: and be briefed in a classified setting. Even Director Coley
Speaker 1: testified publicly that he wished that he had gone to
Speaker 1: the top of the organization. We're one of the two
Speaker 1: national political parties. It is astounding that when they had
Speaker 1: a member of Congress who was leading that organization, that
Speaker 1: no one felt it was any more important when we
Speaker 1: had a foreign enemy intruding on one of the two
Speaker 1: political parties networks to do anything more than lava phone
Speaker 1: call in to our tech support through our main switchboard.
Speaker 1: But how can both's outrageous? I mean, Secretary Johnson says,
Speaker 1: the d n C rebuffed the health that they offered.
Speaker 1: You're saying that no one ever, respectively, who respectfully the
Speaker 1: Secretary Johnson is, is utterly misinformed. That is simply not accurate.
Speaker 1: And much that has been has been written about the
Speaker 1: timeline of events by the New York Times, the Washington
Speaker 1: Post that document, through multiple sources, including me, that that
Speaker 1: the the FBI and other federal agencies did virtually nothing
Speaker 1: to make sure that when they were aware, at the
Speaker 1: point that they were aware that there was or concerned
Speaker 1: that there was an intrusion on our network by the Russians,
Speaker 1: that they did virtually nothing to sound the alarm bells
Speaker 1: to make us aware of that, and they left essentially
Speaker 1: the Russians on our network for more than for almost
Speaker 1: a year. Source is not the Russian government. So in
Speaker 1: other words, let me be clear, Russia did not give
Speaker 1: you the podested documents or anything from the d n C.
Speaker 1: All right. That last one was my interview with Julian Ossange.
Speaker 1: And then you had j Johnson, w Washsingman, Schultz, Peter
Speaker 1: King of New York. It was actually a great guy.
Speaker 1: I just think he's a little too liberal lately, like
Speaker 1: a hard time when I see him. But he's a
Speaker 1: good guy. I've known him over the years as a
Speaker 1: congressman from New York. Um, here's what this is all about.
Speaker 1: You see, you have what's called the Veteran Intelligence Professionals
Speaker 1: for Sanity Group. It's VIPs for sure. Okay. They have
Speaker 1: a theory that has been picked up by the nation,
Speaker 1: by Bloomberg, by the Washington Times, and by many others. Now,
Speaker 1: remember I've interviewed as Songe five times, four times on radio,
Speaker 1: one time on TV. I was their last January. He
Speaker 1: keeps arguing that the people and he'd be the one
Speaker 1: person on the face of this earth he knows where
Speaker 1: the d n C emails came from. Why is that important?
Speaker 1: Is important? Because okay, why is Muller doing the investigation?
Speaker 1: What are the what is the investigation supposed to be
Speaker 1: about Trump Russia collusion. Now we know it's expanded well
Speaker 1: beyond that in terms of its scope, and that's what
Speaker 1: I call investigative creep, and that's a big problem. And
Speaker 1: then into finances and into you know, at this point,
Speaker 1: who even knows that where where this is headed. And
Speaker 1: we don't like the makeup of what's going on with
Speaker 1: the people that Muller is appointing, and that is a
Speaker 1: people that that literally donated to Obama and dominated to
Speaker 1: Clinton and donated to Democrats, but not Republicans. They don't
Speaker 1: have any Republican owners anyway. Just to go on, now,
Speaker 1: what they found is in the findings by these researchers,
Speaker 1: as reported by the Nation, as reported by Bloomberg, as
Speaker 1: reported by the Washington Times, is that the Forensicator and
Speaker 1: Adam Center. Let me explain what this is, That that
Speaker 1: independent researchers that go by these pseudonyms Forensicator or Adam
Speaker 1: Carter and the former found that one thousand, nine seventy six.
Speaker 1: I guess he called Miller. What's the metabytes? I guess
Speaker 1: I don't even know what they call these of goose
Speaker 1: of first files goose for two point oh, we're copied
Speaker 1: from a d n C server on July five in
Speaker 1: just eighty seven seconds, implying a transfer rate of twenty
Speaker 1: two point six megabytes per second, or if you convert
Speaker 1: that to a measure, most people use about a hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty megabytes megabits per second. Alright, I'm not the
Speaker 1: most computer savvy guy in the world, and anyway, a
Speaker 1: speed that is not commonly available from US Internet providers. Remember,
Speaker 1: these people work at a whole different level than the
Speaker 1: rest of us. Downloading these files, they argue this quickly
Speaker 1: over the Internet, especially, you know, in a way that
Speaker 1: most hackers would use, would have been all but impossible
Speaker 1: because the network infrastructure, they conclude, and I'm doing my
Speaker 1: best here to explain this in layman terms, through the
Speaker 1: through which the traffic would have to pass would further
Speaker 1: slow the traffic. However, as the forensicator pointed out, and
Speaker 1: this is all chronicle doing these articles, the files could
Speaker 1: have been copied to a thumb drive, something only an
Speaker 1: insider could have done at about that speed. Now this
Speaker 1: is technical, but it's important. Now this group does VIPs
Speaker 1: group or Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity Group, Well, they
Speaker 1: include thirty two thirty four year veterans of the n
Speaker 1: s A that have incredible, considerable technical experiences. Bill Benny
Speaker 1: is one of them these thirty two thirty four years.
Speaker 1: The agency's former Technical director for World Geopolitical and Military
Speaker 1: Analysis serious credentials Edward Loomis, Jr. He's the former Technical
Speaker 1: director for the Office of Signals in other words, signal
Speaker 1: intercept processing, as well as other X intelligence officers with
Speaker 1: equally impressive credentials. Now that doesn't, of course mean the
Speaker 1: group is right in terms of the analysis and finding
Speaker 1: the analysis on and on and on. But this is
Speaker 1: a very persuasive and fascinating thing because the implications are grave.
Speaker 1: In other words, there was never if there was never,
Speaker 1: if it wasn't the Russians and it was disgruntled d
Speaker 1: n Z people, the the that is the consequences of that,
Speaker 1: the media lying for all this time, conspiracy theories pushed
Speaker 1: for all this time, and so on and so forth. Mueller,
Speaker 1: why is he even there? He should close up shop.
Speaker 1: Now we have reminisce is it now reminiscent of Patrick Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1: So another former intelligence professional examined it's got Ritter pointed
Speaker 1: out that these findings don't necessarily refute that Goosfers materials
Speaker 1: constitute the spoils of a hack anyway. Joining us now
Speaker 1: with reaction, Kirk Web As with US former senior analysts,
Speaker 1: he also worked for the n S A and A
Speaker 1: and n S A whistleblower Brian Finch. He's the co
Speaker 1: chair of cybersecurity practice at Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman. Welcome
Speaker 1: both of you. And I know I'm not really good
Speaker 1: at describing this. How did I do? Kirk Web, Hey,
Speaker 1: you did a fabulous job. Song you captured it all right.
Speaker 1: Explain you've read the Nation. The Nation was the first
Speaker 1: I saw that reported it. Explain to this audience what
Speaker 1: this means. Well, it simply means that we know relatively
Speaker 1: little about the entire matter surrounding the removal of d
Speaker 1: n C emails from the d n C sir here
Speaker 1: in the summer. That said, and although a Russian hack
Speaker 1: of the d n C is not an impossibility, based
Speaker 1: on the preponderance of available evidence, it is almost certain
Speaker 1: the d n C event was elite. Do you think
Speaker 1: it's a certainty? Uh, it's almost certain that per do
Speaker 1: you think my mind about nine? So that would mean
Speaker 1: everything we've heard about Trump Russia, Trump Russia, Trump Russia, collusion, collusion,
Speaker 1: collusion is a line, Yeah, well it's it's you know,
Speaker 1: been blown out of proportion. If someone would have said
Speaker 1: a possibility, most of us would have agreed. But when
Speaker 1: they say it is, it is without any shadow of
Speaker 1: a doubt. That is flat wrong, absolutely wrong. What is
Speaker 1: your take? I mean, do we call guys like like you,
Speaker 1: Brian white hat guys? In other words, you go into
Speaker 1: companies and individuals and what you do is you basically
Speaker 1: try and hack them and you find their vulnerabilities before
Speaker 1: others do. And we know identity theft is so big,
Speaker 1: you know, white hat hackers is what we call you guys.
Speaker 1: But you're the good guy. You're trying to help protect
Speaker 1: companies that they can keep their privacy. You've read these articles,
Speaker 1: You've seen their information, you know their background, their expertise,
Speaker 1: and their credentials. What are your thoughts? Well, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: call myself the most qualified white hat hacker in the world.
Speaker 1: If you ask my kids, don't listen. You can diminish
Speaker 1: your credentials all you want, but you are pretty good
Speaker 1: at this, let's be honest. Well, I appreciate that. Seohn,
Speaker 1: thank you. I still struggle to get my router to
Speaker 1: reach my xbox. But I think from from a lawyer's perspective, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know what what this evidence or what this indicates
Speaker 1: is that there are multiple plausible explanations out there with
Speaker 1: respect to who leak the emails from the d n C.
Speaker 1: And more importantly, you know, despite what Congresswoman Wasserman Schultz
Speaker 1: had to say with respect to cooperation with the Federal
Speaker 1: Bureau of Investigation or the Department of Homeland Security, d
Speaker 1: n C made this much harder for itself. And in
Speaker 1: a way, maybe I even look at their computer systems. Now,
Speaker 1: who says none of the FBI. I certainly don't advise
Speaker 1: my clients to do that. Whenever we get the opportunity
Speaker 1: to work with FBI or Secret Service, we welcome them
Speaker 1: in because they're there. We've got to assume that the
Speaker 1: best of what they do right and that they're absolutely
Speaker 1: Plus there's the fact that at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: if there's been a criminal activity, they're the ones who
Speaker 1: are going to prosecute it. Here's my next question, does
Speaker 1: and we all know what happened when the wiki leaks
Speaker 1: reveal came out. Now the next question, logical question is
Speaker 1: do we tie this Kirk we be in any way
Speaker 1: or do would you in your mind tie it or
Speaker 1: at least be suspicious of what this guy, this this
Speaker 1: i T specialist and this family that made all this
Speaker 1: money from the from Democrats over billing former McDonald's worker,
Speaker 1: former card dealer guy, and then government computers and hard
Speaker 1: drive busted up in his garage. Yeah, it's it's uh,
Speaker 1: it gets murky. And and with the recent uncovering of
Speaker 1: the guys who are working for Debbie Wasserman Shelts, I mean,
Speaker 1: all these avenues are opening up, none of them are
Speaker 1: giving us answers. What bothers me the most, though, Sean,
Speaker 1: is that the government could have disclosed evidence by now
Speaker 1: showing us that our thinking is wrong, and it hasn't.
Speaker 1: Do you know in eighties, President just hold that thought.
Speaker 1: Don't don't go anywhere, because that's an important You're saying
Speaker 1: that the government already knows this part Rush Trump Russia
Speaker 1: Trump collusion. He's saying that they already know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you know, and they wouldn't tell the American people. Well,
Speaker 1: I think they can't tell the American people. And what
Speaker 1: I want to contrast is President Reagan disclosed the intercept
Speaker 1: of the K A L shootdown on the floor of
Speaker 1: the United Nations to prove what the Russians did. Stay
Speaker 1: right there, take a break. Well, and with that we
Speaker 1: have all those people saying we have no evidence, no evidence,
Speaker 1: no evidence, no evidence, but the media still went with it.
Speaker 1: All right. I don't know the answers to these questions,
Speaker 1: but you know when the nation, the Washington Times, Bloomberg
Speaker 1: and people with those credentials are saying this, I'm suspicious.
Speaker 1: I want answers. The American people deserve the truth, and
Speaker 1: they deserve answers, and asking questions is a good thing
Speaker 1: for the country. Bite sized version of the show that
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Speaker 1: roll along, Sean Hannity Show eight nine four one, Sean,
Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. Brian
Speaker 1: Finch Kirk web is with us. All right, So you
Speaker 1: think it was a d n C disgruntled Bernie person.
Speaker 1: Am I getting that right? Kirk? Yeah, that's my belief, Sean.
Speaker 1: And you believe the government probably knows the truth, but
Speaker 1: they're not telling us that Donald Trump know the truth. Well,
Speaker 1: let's put it this way. It's either that they won't
Speaker 1: tell us the truth or they don't have any evidence
Speaker 1: to support their claim and they don't want to embarrass themselves,
Speaker 1: all right. So then the next question, logical question is
Speaker 1: why don't they dig deeper? Why don't they get to
Speaker 1: the truth. That is a good question because I don't
Speaker 1: know the whole truth. All I know is these are
Speaker 1: really respectable credential people, don't, don't you think, Brian Finch?
Speaker 1: I do. I absolutely do. I think when you read it,
Speaker 1: let me ask that, what did you think when you
Speaker 1: read the Nation piece? Well, as you mean gen earlier,
Speaker 1: I mean I thought it was a remarkable, remarkable collection
Speaker 1: of sources. Here You've got the left of the Nation,
Speaker 1: the right with the Washington Times, and basically the center
Speaker 1: with Bloomberg here. So this is not just some partisan
Speaker 1: or outlined his conspiracy theory, as you said, it was
Speaker 1: not earlier. It's it's certainly something that needs to be
Speaker 1: followed up on. And when I read this story about
Speaker 1: you know, the possible insider theft of these emails, it's
Speaker 1: as possible as anything that's out there. I think it
Speaker 1: deserves equal weight in terms of the investigation and more
Speaker 1: than anything else sean, it just reinforced my personal belief
Speaker 1: that looked, we know Russia tried to impact the election
Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form, but to allege collusion
Speaker 1: between the Trump campaign and the Russian government is just
Speaker 1: more denial on the part of the folks who are
Speaker 1: anti Trump and running out of time. Do you think
Speaker 1: that the nation really believes they've got this nail? That's
Speaker 1: why a left wing publication did this, because they're said
Speaker 1: thing a signal to all their friends that have gone
Speaker 1: out so far on the limit or wrong? Are they
Speaker 1: trying to say something with this piece? I think there's
Speaker 1: there's certainly a lot of anger at the Washerman Schultz
Speaker 1: uh and the way the d n C was run
Speaker 1: for years and ignored and their minds really uh put
Speaker 1: the screws to biggest media lie ever. Boy, there's been
Speaker 1: a lot of them. I put it up there. I'd
Speaker 1: have to sit and think about my uh my collection
Speaker 1: of the collectional lies that have been out there, But
Speaker 1: it's got a role. I love you both, wish I
Speaker 1: had more time. This is not okay. I thought it
Speaker 1: was incredibly uncomfortable. He was literally breathing down my neck.
Speaker 1: My skin crawled back up, You creep, get away from me.
Speaker 1: My nurse came back to the room, found me with
Speaker 1: my bloody swollen whip, and we left immediately and came home.
Speaker 1: He uh was getting ready and went to the door
Speaker 1: and there I there. I sat on the bed, just devastated,
Speaker 1: and he goes to the door casually, puts on his
Speaker 1: sunglasses and says, you better get some ice on. That
Speaker 1: she held onto my hand and she said, do you
Speaker 1: understand everything that you do? I went in my spine.
Speaker 1: That's the first time I became afraid of that woman.
Speaker 1: This is not okay. I thought it was incredibly uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: He was literally breathing down my neck. My skin crawled
Speaker 1: back up, You creep, get away from me. She didn't
Speaker 1: even stand up for the women that knew what her
Speaker 1: husband did. And she knew what her husband did. It
Speaker 1: as women, she there's no way that she did not
Speaker 1: know that this is not okay. I thought it was
Speaker 1: incredibly uncomfortable. He was literally breathing down my neck. My
Speaker 1: skin crawled back up, You creep, get away from me.
Speaker 1: We will destroy you, is what they said to me.
Speaker 1: Who said My brother said it on behalf of Billy
Speaker 1: when he was campaigning for him. This is not okay.
Speaker 1: I thought it was incredibly uncomfortable. He was literally breathing
Speaker 1: down my neck. My skin crawled back up, You creep,
Speaker 1: get away from me. You're in any danger. And to
Speaker 1: this point I used to us to really really yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was very scared. I was horribly horribly threatened.
Speaker 1: And people don't know that story. This is not okay.
Speaker 1: I thought it was incredibly uncomfortable. He was literally breathing
Speaker 1: down my neck. My skin crawled back up, You creep,
Speaker 1: get away from me. Did you see what happened to
Speaker 1: Jennifer Flowers? Did you see what was happening to Paula Jones?
Speaker 1: My alegant, Yes, no, not afraid. I just I just
Speaker 1: knew what would happen. This is not okay. I thought
Speaker 1: it was incredibly comfortable. He was literally breathing down my neck.
Speaker 1: My skin crawled back up, You creep, get away from me.
Speaker 1: If I had to meet her in person, it would
Speaker 1: be very hard for me not to walk up smacker
Speaker 1: sounding to me. Alright, she a lot twelve years old.
Speaker 1: I mean, I had to go look through this window,
Speaker 1: and I do these guys. I am sick and tired
Speaker 1: of people who say that if you debate and you
Speaker 1: disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. And we
Speaker 1: should stand up and say we are America, that we
Speaker 1: have a right to debate. That just a rate with
Speaker 1: that administration. All right? That Hillary's Clinton's new book and
Speaker 1: her latest excuse about why she lost. It's not the
Speaker 1: first time she claims that somebody invaded her space, and
Speaker 1: she said it about Rick Lazio. A new book is
Speaker 1: called What Happened, But of course the only person not
Speaker 1: to blame is her. Should pack up, you creep. And
Speaker 1: then the women you heard from, Paula Jones and Kathleen
Speaker 1: Willie and Dolly Kyle and on Eda Broderick Um. Hillary
Speaker 1: was silent in all of those instances and the very
Speaker 1: very severe statements made about her husband. And may I
Speaker 1: add that the Clinton Foundation didn't take money from Saudi Arabia,
Speaker 1: the United Arab Emirates and and Kuwait and Oman and
Speaker 1: Cutter and Algeria and Brunei and Saudi Arabia. You know,
Speaker 1: women can't drive and are told how to dress and
Speaker 1: gaze and lesbians are killed, women can't travel abroad, they
Speaker 1: can't work unless they get permission and gaze and lesbians
Speaker 1: are killed, and Christians and Jews persecuted. And in the UAE, well,
Speaker 1: let's see, they have a law that states women have
Speaker 1: a right to work without being held disobedient. That's nice.
Speaker 1: And the penal code in the UAE gives men the
Speaker 1: legal right to discipline their wives and their children, including
Speaker 1: physical violence. And in Kuwait Uh, women have been denied
Speaker 1: the right to become public prosecutors and judges, and the
Speaker 1: same rights as men to obtain nationality for even their
Speaker 1: spouses and kids. And there's no laws prohibiting domestic violence,
Speaker 1: sexual harassment, or marital rape. And I can go on
Speaker 1: from there, but I don't want to put Rick Onger
Speaker 1: in too big a hole. Rick Oner joins us of
Speaker 1: the Stealing Unger show. Jonathan gillim is with us, Well,
Speaker 1: what how are you gonna wiggle out of this one
Speaker 1: this week? I'm just you know, I obviously didn't get
Speaker 1: the memo. I thought the election was over and you're
Speaker 1: still living. No, no, no, no no, you don't get the
Speaker 1: dodge by saying the election is over Hillary's Hillary's release
Speaker 1: came out yesterday, Therefore it is news when she's saying, oh,
Speaker 1: during the debate, I said, oh, he is in invading
Speaker 1: my space is not incredibly uncomfortable. I think it was
Speaker 1: literally breathing. So that brings up issues about whether or
Speaker 1: not Hillary's you know, you know, support of those countries
Speaker 1: and taking their money and all these other women. She
Speaker 1: remained silent. Whether it's quite a week that it brings
Speaker 1: up there, I don't think so. Jonathan, do you think
Speaker 1: that's a leap? I've debated eleap. I don't know when
Speaker 1: he's saying that's the elite, he said it's a leap.
Speaker 1: And I've had men get into my space and turned
Speaker 1: to them and said a little route please. What does
Speaker 1: that mean? Every time you get near me, I say,
Speaker 1: can I have some space? Please? Thing? Every time you
Speaker 1: come near me, I say, back up, you creep for
Speaker 1: the United Arab Emirates and all those other places you listed, Well,
Speaker 1: why would you take money from countries that abuse women,
Speaker 1: kill gays and lesbians, and persecute Christians and Jews. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't take money from them, would you know? I actually
Speaker 1: wouldn't take money from them. So so I guess that
Speaker 1: even though Donald Trump might have gotten close to her
Speaker 1: during a debate, what's wait a minute, what's worse the
Speaker 1: way Donald Trump might have gotten close to her during
Speaker 1: a debate or the fact that she took money from
Speaker 1: countries that abused these groups. We could probably wind that
Speaker 1: logic out forever if you no. I don't really think so.
Speaker 1: But it's a simple question, Rick, I don't I'm gonna answer.
Speaker 1: I don't like that you took money. I don't like
Speaker 1: that the Clinton Foundation took money from those countries. And
Speaker 1: then it turned around and I just want a big
Speaker 1: bet with Linda because I said, you're gonna say I
Speaker 1: got to do with it. I said to Linda Jonathan,
Speaker 1: I said, he Hunger is gonna dodge Duck. And then
Speaker 1: he's gonna say, well, I don't agree with that personally,
Speaker 1: That's what I predicted he'd say it. Well, first off,
Speaker 1: let me say that I feel the exact same way.
Speaker 1: When I first met Rick Hunger. I was like, come on,
Speaker 1: you're breathing on me. Back up a little bit, Hunger.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Hunger is a great guy. But but seriously, um,
Speaker 1: that's one of the good things about hunger is that
Speaker 1: he does eventually admit what is real and and uh
Speaker 1: but I think, you know the thing with this Hillary,
Speaker 1: the whole Hillary Clinton things, sometimes I wonder if they
Speaker 1: are just doing these things to remain um in the news,
Speaker 1: to remain it could because they subscribe to the Slowinsky
Speaker 1: tactic of just be out there, make noise so that
Speaker 1: people continue to remember your name, and then when you
Speaker 1: get a chance to start slamming the enemy, that's what
Speaker 1: you do, and that that's this whole Solidnsky tactic. Just
Speaker 1: remain relevant. Now more cynical with you. You know what
Speaker 1: my analysis is, I just think that that book my analysis.
Speaker 1: I think the Clintons just when they just want to
Speaker 1: get every penny and milk, this this their public you know,
Speaker 1: positions dry. It's like there's nothing they won't do. Well,
Speaker 1: that's closer at least they would. It's so nefarious. She
Speaker 1: wrote that book because she got a ton of money
Speaker 1: to write the book, Like all people who write books,
Speaker 1: they would you ever money? Would you ever do an
Speaker 1: audio book? Like Hillary? I felt he was invading my space.
Speaker 1: I was uncomfortable. Would you ever do that? So now
Speaker 1: we're would I do an audio book? Sure? I do
Speaker 1: an audio book. If somebody wanted an audio book for me,
Speaker 1: would But you don't reading. What can I tell you?
Speaker 1: What can I tell you? Let me move on a
Speaker 1: more serious issue. Let me play a part of what
Speaker 1: I did in my monologue last night, and that is,
Speaker 1: and I've I've made the predict action last week that
Speaker 1: the whole issue would have started in Charlottesville. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter how many times, how many ways, Donald Trump says,
Speaker 1: and he said at ninety one with Larry King, and
Speaker 1: he said it to Matt Loward twenty years ago, and
Speaker 1: he said it all throughout the campaign, and he said
Speaker 1: it ever since Charlotte'sville. But it doesn't matter. The left,
Speaker 1: it wants to bludgeon him politically, and the left wants
Speaker 1: to portray every conservative Republican and in this president is racist.
Speaker 1: For example, this is the president disavowing announcing racism, white
Speaker 1: supremacy for the evil. It is what do you see
Speaker 1: as the biggest problem with the Reform Party right now?
Speaker 1: You've got David Duke just joined, A bigot, a racist,
Speaker 1: a problem. I mean, this is not exactly the people
Speaker 1: you want in your party. So I totally disavow the
Speaker 1: Cluke klux Klan. I totally disavow David Duke. David Duke
Speaker 1: announced his sent a candidacy, claiming your agenda for his own,
Speaker 1: or essentially saying glad that you spoke out. Are you ready?
Speaker 1: Before you asked the question, nuke Ingrad said, every Republican
Speaker 1: should repudiate this guy. Are you ready rebuked? Is that okay? Rebuked?
Speaker 1: Don okay? How me about the reason? Endorced Man? I
Speaker 1: didn't even know he endorsed me. David Duke endorsed me? Okay, alright,
Speaker 1: I disavowed, okay, and I don't mind disavowing anybody. And
Speaker 1: I disavowed David Duke, and they heard me very easily
Speaker 1: disavowed David Duke. How would you characterize him more words
Speaker 1: than one? Uh, David Duke. David Duke is a bad
Speaker 1: person who I disavowed on numerous occasions over the years.
Speaker 1: Just to put it clear, I disavowed him in the past,
Speaker 1: and I disavowed him now. I've reject David Duke, conjected
Speaker 1: David Duke. I've rejected the KKK, the tu klux Land
Speaker 1: from the time I'm five years old. I rejected them.
Speaker 1: Mitt Romney says, you're coddling of repugnant bigotry is not
Speaker 1: in the character of America. Your response, Yeah, David Duke
Speaker 1: and all were disavowed. I disavowed him on Friday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I disavowed him right after that because I thought if
Speaker 1: there was any question, and you take a look at Twitter,
Speaker 1: almost immediately after on Twitter and Facebook, they were disavowed again.
Speaker 1: Because I'm running out of time, let me just give
Speaker 1: a quick headline answer from Rick on or then I
Speaker 1: gotta take a break. You get the point, I assume
Speaker 1: you must. You might, yeah, but you must have a
Speaker 1: little more time to play the audios where the president
Speaker 1: when he wasn't the president. He had told him he
Speaker 1: had no idea David Duke was, and how it took
Speaker 1: him all that time to get to the point that's
Speaker 1: not my interpreted is I don't know this guy. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what he was saying, I have no idea who
Speaker 1: David Duke is. You know, you should play the tape.
Speaker 1: You must. I have the tape. But I interpreted it
Speaker 1: differently than you did. Jonathan, How did you interpreted though
Speaker 1: he's saying he doesn't know him, he doesn't know he
Speaker 1: doesn't know him, and that's the point. I guess there
Speaker 1: weren't enough things in there for Ring. For Rick. We'll
Speaker 1: take a for Ring, We'll take a quick break, come
Speaker 1: back and continue. All right. As we continue, Rick Unger
Speaker 1: is with us, along with Jonathan Gillham, and all right, Rick,
Speaker 1: I'll give you a chance. But I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the media except for me, I don't know one person
Speaker 1: in the media that played the president year in year
Speaker 1: out as many times as he has, denouncing white supremacism
Speaker 1: again and again and David Duke and the clan again
Speaker 1: and again and again. I don't know how he could
Speaker 1: have denounced David Duke all that time, because his quote
Speaker 1: was I don't know any Honestly, I don't know David Duke,
Speaker 1: which would speak to your interpretation. I don't believe that
Speaker 1: I've ever met him that could speak to your interpretation.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I didn't meet him, and I just
Speaker 1: don't know anything about him. Well, if he doesn't know
Speaker 1: anything about him, why would he beats is the former
Speaker 1: Klan white supremacist guy. Okay, you know what you're You're
Speaker 1: making my point, Jonathan, and I just I don't think no,
Speaker 1: I do. I I really believe I'm right and you're wrong, shocking, Jonathan, No,
Speaker 1: you know this splitting your hairs that it happens on
Speaker 1: the left is well, it's in politics in general. But
Speaker 1: when the president says that he doesn't know David Duke
Speaker 1: and he doesn't know anything about him, things like that
Speaker 1: will get spun up by people like John Lemon CNN
Speaker 1: where they just go crazy on this sound bike and
Speaker 1: people really have to stop looking at these sound bites
Speaker 1: because he said was a montage of dis bowing, telling
Speaker 1: people that he understands who he is, becauesn't know him,
Speaker 1: and people don't take the full content and we're stuck
Speaker 1: on these sound bites in this country by well that's
Speaker 1: the point. I I played fifty things and you know,
Speaker 1: goes to one thing that could be interpreted both ways,
Speaker 1: and it's it's so fundamentally unfair. And this is what
Speaker 1: happens every two and four years. We just listened to
Speaker 1: an entire three minutes of sound bite and I've got more.
Speaker 1: We didn't finish it. Now I'm sure you do. And
Speaker 1: now and now Jonath Bean saying we're splitting hairs by
Speaker 1: actually listening to something the President said, don't do that.
Speaker 1: That splitting hair, you're you're listening, You're judging off a
Speaker 1: one single sound bite when there's there's tons of them.
Speaker 1: I think the president's racist, Rick Hongor do you think
Speaker 1: the president's racist? Actually I don't because I've never met
Speaker 1: the president. I think the president has been a little
Speaker 1: too supportive of people I do think are racist. Good,
Speaker 1: how has he been supportive of racist? That's a I think,
Speaker 1: you know, because he says I want to vet people
Speaker 1: and build Do you think saying you want to vet
Speaker 1: people and build the wall as racist? No, that wasn't
Speaker 1: what was in my head at all. Actually, I never
Speaker 1: know who know what he could figure out what's in
Speaker 1: that head of yours. I mean, it's very difficult, but no,
Speaker 1: I would. You know, it's hard for me to accuse
Speaker 1: somebody of as being a racist. I think there's only
Speaker 1: how many more times does he need to disavow to
Speaker 1: make the left, you know, realize that he's not and
Speaker 1: and how many times does he need to say they're
Speaker 1: evil and repugnant and disgusting. And he did praise the
Speaker 1: protesters of Boston, peaceful protesters. It's not just this, it's
Speaker 1: not just a concern of the left, you know, you
Speaker 1: might have been able to say that a month ago.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can say that anymore. The never
Speaker 1: trumpers are never trumpers have always been out there just
Speaker 1: waiting to say, see, we were right, and there are
Speaker 1: there's very rationable reasonable people out of America identify. They
Speaker 1: don't identify as left or right, and they don't like
Speaker 1: that they heard and saw either. But but he said
Speaker 1: he didn't like what he saw. He said it again
Speaker 1: and again. That's my only point, and nobody in the
Speaker 1: media plays it. But all right, I gotta roll Rick Hunger.
Speaker 1: Thank you as always, Jonathan Gillum. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we got a really powerful debate. You don't want to
Speaker 1: miss this. We're gonna check in with Spencer Tillman and
Speaker 1: also our friend Dan Bongino. Why did he SPN take
Speaker 1: Robert Lee off the air? There is this EESPN play
Speaker 1: by play guy Robert Lee, and I mentioned this yesterday.
Speaker 1: I am just amazed at sports broadcasters. I wish I
Speaker 1: could do what they do. I can't. And I mentioned,
Speaker 1: for example, the NHL. If you watch NHL Networks, if
Speaker 1: if you watch NBC Sports, and they've got every NHL
Speaker 1: night Rivalry night on the NHL um and you just
Speaker 1: listen to you know, this guy America's The broadcaster's so amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how does he possibly do this? On the
Speaker 1: tribe from Pratts onbody outside lost it poked away by
Speaker 1: Marshaw dancers to the outside. It takes his own fast.
Speaker 1: You can just here and it doesn't matter in the
Speaker 1: case of it's sort of like radio broadcasting, although he's
Speaker 1: on television doc Emerica and I'm just it's really hard
Speaker 1: to follow hockey play by play like that, and he
Speaker 1: does it so well. Anyway, I was very aware of
Speaker 1: who Robert Lee was, and he was scheduled to do
Speaker 1: the uv A home opener, and then the us PN
Speaker 1: president decided to send out a memo and they had
Speaker 1: had a meeting and they decided because his name is
Speaker 1: Robert Lee, it happens to be an Asian American, it
Speaker 1: shouldn't matter. He's a great broadcaster. The guy's amazing. And
Speaker 1: they said, well, because your name is Robert Lee, and
Speaker 1: we have the monument issue and we're debating whether or
Speaker 1: not to take and of course they're talking about Robert E. Lee,
Speaker 1: Well we're gonna put you on a different broadcast. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the single dumbest thing I think
Speaker 1: I've ever heard in my life. And it just listen
Speaker 1: to what a great broadcaster Robert Lee is. Robert Lee,
Speaker 1: Nate Ross back with you, Ashville. It's all that first
Speaker 1: half led for about fifteen and a half minutes, have
Speaker 1: matched their biggest lead six points here halftime lead as
Speaker 1: always by my Thomas swapoint since well been a final
Speaker 1: five and a half seconds. They get it in fatigue.
Speaker 1: He starts up the court with three tee trying to
Speaker 1: get the shot away. He will hit you see sex,
Speaker 1: it's all our time. Steal t for Thomas pull him
Speaker 1: what time out of six and longest time the game?
Speaker 1: First and ten from the thirty five pump fake throw,
Speaker 1: wide open and he's got it four a touchdown Bright
Speaker 1: and there. I grew up loving the radio my parents.
Speaker 1: It wasn't shut off the TV, it was turn the
Speaker 1: radio off. And I was up late at night and
Speaker 1: I listened to the radio. Drove my parents nuts. They
Speaker 1: try to steal my radio and I'd find another one.
Speaker 1: Um and he could you imagine? All of that is extemporaneous.
Speaker 1: All of you got to know the players, You gotta
Speaker 1: know the names. You gotta go to the twenty, the fifteen,
Speaker 1: the then you know, touts down and make it exciting,
Speaker 1: and they do it is one of the most gifted,
Speaker 1: incredible skills to do this is insanity. Anyway, here to
Speaker 1: get some opinion on it, my good friend Spencer Tillman.
Speaker 1: He's the lead studio analysts for College Football Today, CBS
Speaker 1: Television network pregame halftime studio show, former running Back by
Speaker 1: the Way eight seasons with the Houston Oilers at the time,
Speaker 1: and San Francisco forty Niners Dan Bongino's with US former
Speaker 1: Secret Service agent m Y p d also contributing editor
Speaker 1: of Conservative Review. Welcome both of you back to the program. Spencer,
Speaker 1: you know my love of sports, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've always known my love of sports broadcasters, but
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated with them because I can't do what they do.
Speaker 1: You do you do it every single day, you know,
Speaker 1: not what they do. I don't have to identify everybody's
Speaker 1: name and be able to pronounce it right, but say
Speaker 1: what you see. Nobody is so deaf with understanding the
Speaker 1: names of politicians that the movers in this business. It's
Speaker 1: not the same. You're being a friend if it's not
Speaker 1: the same, Spencer, it's much different. It's harder one real time,
Speaker 1: it's faster, no question of it's fast. It takes yeah,
Speaker 1: no question, it's a skill. Look, you have the skill.
Speaker 1: You're an amazing broadcaster. And Dan Bongino, he's filled on
Speaker 1: this program. He's an amazing broadcaster. And I'm looking and
Speaker 1: I you knew who who Robert Lee was before this.
Speaker 1: I knew who Robert Lee was before. There's maybe a
Speaker 1: lot of people didn't. I don't know. I think he's
Speaker 1: I think he's pretty popular actually, and you know, and
Speaker 1: then they pull this move. Always your reaction, Spencer, Well, listen,
Speaker 1: I never I try to refrain from commenting on what
Speaker 1: other networks do at the bottom because it's just courtesy
Speaker 1: more than anything else. But generally it is an overreaction
Speaker 1: to society. You know, we're so politically correct, and I
Speaker 1: get frustrated because we're not tackling the real issues. We're
Speaker 1: dealing with these ghosts and perceptions of what are the
Speaker 1: real issues. And so I'm disappointed in any network, anyone,
Speaker 1: any in a leader, any administrator that would make that call,
Speaker 1: whether it happened at the regional level or the network level,
Speaker 1: as are learning nities of these days after the event. Um,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter the sentiment. If you're in charge
Speaker 1: of a responsibility of making those kind of choices at
Speaker 1: any level, you gotta have a worldview, You gotta have
Speaker 1: a sense of history and understand what matters, and that
Speaker 1: has to filter in your choices that you make. So
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed that the people who are responsible for being
Speaker 1: the pathway or the conduit through which we see such
Speaker 1: an important aspect of our community, that is sport through
Speaker 1: our daily lives, I'm disappointed that they didn't exercise better
Speaker 1: judgment in that regard. But you are you are so
Speaker 1: diplomatic and so nice, which goes which goes to the listen,
Speaker 1: if everybody, anybody that knows you, that's who you are.
Speaker 1: I get it. And and it's you're just a nice person.
Speaker 1: You know. One of my favorite sports opinionated sports commentators
Speaker 1: is and he's a good friend of this program and
Speaker 1: of mine. And I'm jealous because he's gonna be at
Speaker 1: the Mayweather McGregor fight. He's covering it is stephen A.
Speaker 1: And and I just worry that stephen A one day
Speaker 1: because he has Ben is so quick to fire. Somebody
Speaker 1: says something controversial. Oh my gosh, gee whiz, we can't.
Speaker 1: It's like we we we fame this outrage um when
Speaker 1: people give strong opinions, and I'm like, I love strong opinions.
Speaker 1: Bring it on, let's hear it. Let's have a solid
Speaker 1: debate about it. What my opinion is this? You so
Speaker 1: like Bill Walsh used to tell us one was with
Speaker 1: the forty Niners, complexity and preparation, simplicity and execution. You've
Speaker 1: got to spend a lot of time knowing your history,
Speaker 1: knowing the games. As the case, maybe we're talking about
Speaker 1: sportscasters controversial issues. You better do a deep dive before
Speaker 1: you make that kind of choice in that decision. That's
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. I'm disappointed that they didn't do a
Speaker 1: deeper dive. That was a superficial, knee jerk reaction response
Speaker 1: to a situation. We keep Spencer on long enough, he's
Speaker 1: gonna open up. And he's opened it up now and
Speaker 1: it's coming fly out. Uh. Let me go to my
Speaker 1: my buddy Dan Bongino here. And I guess it also
Speaker 1: raises issues of Colin Kaepernick. We'll get to in a second.
Speaker 1: But what is your take, Dan, Yes, as Spencer is,
Speaker 1: he's a gentleman. I really admire is your Unfortually, I
Speaker 1: don't have that kind of control. No, if we keep
Speaker 1: him on an hour, he'll be he'll be flying off
Speaker 1: the handle. It's gonna be great in an hour. If
Speaker 1: you put two you give him, you give him two beers,
Speaker 1: it's even gonna be greater forgets right, that's right. Get
Speaker 1: those in ambitions down, no, and listen. This is this
Speaker 1: is peak liberal craziness. I mean, we've reached peak in
Speaker 1: stati Sean. I swear when I on my life. When
Speaker 1: I saw this story, I was watching Fox and it
Speaker 1: came up on my life, I thought it was a joke.
Speaker 1: I thought, that's something like it's say, it's funny, sorry
Speaker 1: about about a fake Trump to here thing. And I thought,
Speaker 1: I said to my wife paul I go, Paula, this
Speaker 1: is so funny. Listen to the stupid story. They kicked
Speaker 1: an Asian broadcaster off because he shares the name of
Speaker 1: Confederate general. And my wife goes, Dad, this is true,
Speaker 1: Like this is I'm just you can't believe it. You know,
Speaker 1: it's funny because when I there's so much fake news
Speaker 1: out there. There's a story that I spent at a
Speaker 1: Trump hotel like forty two or seven thousand dollars and
Speaker 1: I made them fly in a seventy year old lobster.
Speaker 1: And another story that said I died in a bicycle accident.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, where does this trap come from? I
Speaker 1: don't blame you for thinking it's fake news? You know
Speaker 1: when your livelihood is will we do? Which is picking
Speaker 1: apart liberal silliness? Even us we were like, no, come
Speaker 1: on this campaign. It just goes to show you this one.
Speaker 1: Here's the takeaway that liberals have America believing right now
Speaker 1: that a fringe portion of America, not all Democrats, but
Speaker 1: literally the fringe left of the far left, that that
Speaker 1: is a position widely held. And that is what scared
Speaker 1: ESPN to the point where they removed in Asian American
Speaker 1: broadcaster for fear of associating him with a Confederate general
Speaker 1: dead more than a hundred years. It is literally insanity,
Speaker 1: you know, alright, guys, I hate, I hate to stop
Speaker 1: any good debates. Stay right there, We'll continue as we
Speaker 1: continue Sean Hannity Show, we continue with Spencer Tillman and
Speaker 1: Dan Bongino. Let me let me throw this at Um,
Speaker 1: and I am a huge free speech advocate, and I'm
Speaker 1: calling Kaepernick he was one of he he was on track,
Speaker 1: he had a trajectory I thought to be one of
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks from the NFL. Ever, I mean, his
Speaker 1: arm is phenomenal. And I watched this whole thing unfold
Speaker 1: last year, and he has every right, and frankly, I
Speaker 1: respect that he he knows he's going against a lot
Speaker 1: of people's beliefs, and he's standing out there on his own,
Speaker 1: and he knows the consequences, and he's willing to stand
Speaker 1: up for what he believes. And I have no problem
Speaker 1: with that at all. But then when teams don't want
Speaker 1: to hire him, you know, I understand their decision as well. Thoughts. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: the NFL is a private organization, right, it's private ownership.
Speaker 1: It has the league that it's a space and represented,
Speaker 1: but those individual thirty two teams can do whatever they
Speaker 1: want to do. I remember famously, Um, it was it
Speaker 1: was it was Vince Lombardi who was concerned about some
Speaker 1: things that were happening in Green Bay. Was one of
Speaker 1: the major establishments at the time, would not allow African
Speaker 1: American players to stay at the hotel, and Vince Lombardi
Speaker 1: went over and had a conversation with the man. He said, hey, look,
Speaker 1: I will die for the right for you to do
Speaker 1: what you want to do with respect to who stays
Speaker 1: in your hotel. However, I will also exercise the right
Speaker 1: for anyone within the Green Bay Packer organization not to
Speaker 1: patronize your place. And he did that with the same
Speaker 1: type of respect, but he did it with respect and discipline.
Speaker 1: What I think Colin Kaepernick's problem with Dodgers. Didn't the Dodgers, sorry,
Speaker 1: the Dodgers do that? Um not l A at the time?
Speaker 1: Did the Dodgers also do that with Jackie Robinson? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and see those types of statements. However, even though it
Speaker 1: was an internal one and it was obviously happening during
Speaker 1: the time, we didn't have Twitter and it couldn't have
Speaker 1: gotten blown up the way that it. If this story
Speaker 1: does here today, what it speaks to is the respect
Speaker 1: and an awareness Vince Lombardy literally went there. I just
Speaker 1: think the optics of Colin's efforts were wrong from the beginning.
Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna be difficult here and speak what
Speaker 1: most people don't speak today. Truly, if you've got a
Speaker 1: big afrow. Most people, black or white art mature enough
Speaker 1: to look past the image and impression of what that represents,
Speaker 1: and they will take a snapshot of it, and then
Speaker 1: it becomes representative of what they believe you're really all about.
Speaker 1: Even though your message may be pure, it may be just,
Speaker 1: it may be right, the optics just do not look right.
Speaker 1: Is it the but but Spencer? Is it the optics?
Speaker 1: Because I actually think the ninety whatever percent, I can't
Speaker 1: put a percentage on it. I think are good people
Speaker 1: that that judge their fellow man as created by the
Speaker 1: same God and by the content of their character and
Speaker 1: not the color of their skin. Now, yeah, they're ignorant, bigoted, racist, hateful, evil,
Speaker 1: white supremacist. There are evil people in this world. But
Speaker 1: I don't think people look at Kaepernick from a from
Speaker 1: a visual standpoint and say they're against Kaepernick. I I
Speaker 1: think he was well loved and idolized and adored by fans.
Speaker 1: I think it's position more than looks. No, well, there's
Speaker 1: the thing that we do don't know in a private
Speaker 1: room without consequence, how many people would object to that
Speaker 1: or maybe show a sense Look our our last election
Speaker 1: of the classic case of it. The moral majority actually
Speaker 1: didn't speak loud enough. During the race. Everyone thought, the
Speaker 1: pundits thought, even many conservatives thought that Donald Trump had
Speaker 1: no way of winning. That that's the part that you
Speaker 1: don't know. But again, it's in that private room without consequence.
Speaker 1: Then when it happens and then the actions define it,
Speaker 1: then we know what people perhaps were thinking. At least
Speaker 1: we can make that a sum I want to Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me get d Yeah. Well, Sean, I don't have
Speaker 1: any respect for Colin Kaepernick at all, and I have
Speaker 1: no problem saying that. And I don't think this is
Speaker 1: a principal stand either. Is it about looks? Is it
Speaker 1: about what he does on the field and his stand
Speaker 1: he's taken? Listen, I couldn't care any less about what
Speaker 1: the guy looks like. You want to take a principal stand,
Speaker 1: get your butt off the bench, get off your knees,
Speaker 1: and go volunteer in a suit kitchen and donate tens
Speaker 1: of millions of dollars to some causet matters to you.
Speaker 1: You know, Sean, Listen, people go after you. And this
Speaker 1: isn't something like stupid but kissing moment, but I know
Speaker 1: what you do behind the scenes for the VET because
Speaker 1: it matters to you. You want to take a principal stand,
Speaker 1: get off your ass and get out there and go
Speaker 1: do something and donate your money. A joker because by
Speaker 1: him doing this, in disrespecting the country and smacking everybody
Speaker 1: in the face like the clown he is. You know
Speaker 1: what he's doing. He's taking down the NFL and all
Speaker 1: those other hard working people with him, guys who really
Speaker 1: need this job. Not everybody in the NFL is a
Speaker 1: multi billionaire. He's a disgrace and this is Americans. Just
Speaker 1: say this. I disagree on where you're coming from. I
Speaker 1: think he's not a clown. I think he's a thinking
Speaker 1: young man. He has made some optical moves that we're
Speaker 1: not the best. He is getting good counsel from people
Speaker 1: like Dr Harry Edwards and others that understand history. The
Speaker 1: guy is actually trying to make a principal statement about
Speaker 1: something that is a very real about that we've not
Speaker 1: dealt with in this nation. About about what is making
Speaker 1: to you. If you'll be quiet for a minute, I'll
Speaker 1: explain to you the historic marketalization of African Americans in
Speaker 1: this nation is a matter of red and we do
Speaker 1: not acknowledge it to the extent that it manifests itself
Speaker 1: in all of the area's employment historically, it is it
Speaker 1: is clear that we have a problem in this nation,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, people like Colin Kaepernick don't present it in
Speaker 1: a way that we need to trust it in an
Speaker 1: effective manner. He's the optics are getting in the way
Speaker 1: of what he's trying to communicate. So I'm not in
Speaker 1: the Spencer when you speak out for communist regimes like
Speaker 1: he does, he's a clown. I'm sorry, I have no
Speaker 1: respect for the guy. You have no idea what thin
Speaker 1: I've not heard him speak out for communist regimes. I
Speaker 1: have heard And as we continue Sean Hannity Show, we
Speaker 1: continue with our friend Spencer Tillman Dan Bongino with us.
Speaker 1: They were discussing Colin Koppernick and and Dan was pretty
Speaker 1: adamant in expressing his thoughts that he's a clown and
Speaker 1: Spencer has taken issue with it. Dan, I'll let you
Speaker 1: finish your thought and well let Spencer respond. Well, listen,
Speaker 1: the guy wears socks that depicted tops his pigs. What
Speaker 1: kind of principle is that? Is this guy serious? I mean,
Speaker 1: burglars would break into his house tomorrow and steal his stuff.
Speaker 1: Of what that for men and women in blue. He's
Speaker 1: a joke. The guy's a total farce. I mean, comparing
Speaker 1: him to something to anyone with principles who's actually fought
Speaker 1: the good fight is embarrassing. I'm serious. I have zero
Speaker 1: respect for him and the fact that he's destroying the NFL. Really,
Speaker 1: the people in the NFL should be really, really upset.
Speaker 1: Get this guy off the side. You want to disrespect
Speaker 1: the anthem, do it in the locker rooms. If he
Speaker 1: had that kind of power to destroy the NFL, believe me,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be alive right now. I don't think that
Speaker 1: would be the case. Again, the socks, that's part of
Speaker 1: the optics. I'm gonna help my friend spends her out.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't be alive right now. This is called a
Speaker 1: talk show. That is called hyperbole. He doesn't mean physically
Speaker 1: harming somebody by anybody in the NNFL that would ever
Speaker 1: do that. Because Colin Kapernact spoke out on his personal beliefs,
Speaker 1: go ahead, well yeah, I mean again, ultimately, what it
Speaker 1: amounts to is those are again gets back to the
Speaker 1: original comment about optics. The optics of the situation is
Speaker 1: what it is. He's a young man that made poor decisions.
Speaker 1: He's since got some counsel about that. That's the disappointing
Speaker 1: thing about all of this. The real issues are not
Speaker 1: being addressed here. We're dealing with the hyperbolic parts of
Speaker 1: it and the easily explordable parts. The symbolic parts, pigs,
Speaker 1: socks with pigs on it, the afro, all of that
Speaker 1: stuff paints a picture in the narrative, and it gives
Speaker 1: someone an opinion about someone. Is it? Is it? But
Speaker 1: what is? What is the more? Is it that he's
Speaker 1: taken the knee? Is it the socks? More than whatever?
Speaker 1: I think it? I think it is people that are
Speaker 1: offended because the blanket statement that he's disrespecting the flag?
Speaker 1: And I think this. Listen, if you read the read
Speaker 1: do you think he is when he does that? Do
Speaker 1: you think he is disrespecting the flag? Sean, you're a
Speaker 1: bright man, and you know I love and respects you.
Speaker 1: Go read and listen to the second stanza of the
Speaker 1: lyrics this fancy Scott Key wrote. If you read that narrative,
Speaker 1: which we never sing, by the way, you'll understand exactly
Speaker 1: why people who are educated white and black, understand at
Speaker 1: least to a larger degree, the plight of people like
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick. When you look at the lyrics, just go
Speaker 1: read the lyrics. I encourage your listeners to go read
Speaker 1: the literally my heart. Everybody knows it, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: know it. Sean, everybody doesn't know it. You know, the
Speaker 1: first stands it, But read the entire lyrics from the
Speaker 1: second sands of there. That's not that's only a portion.
Speaker 1: Read the entire song. And when you put it in
Speaker 1: that context, people that's functioned with a sense and awareness
Speaker 1: of history. No, listen, this is this is an incredible conversation.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how else do you accept
Speaker 1: the symbolism of wearing Castro a killer communist on your
Speaker 1: T shirt and pigs as cops on your socks? I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: with all due respects, and the spencer that the guy's
Speaker 1: a joke. What symbolist? I don't understand, because there is
Speaker 1: there an alternate way to interpret a cop depicted as
Speaker 1: a pig on someone's like, like, what's the alternate way? Like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't get it. There's only one way to interpret that.
Speaker 1: That's to be a childish, immature, a jerk, and to
Speaker 1: insult people who, by the way, make a one one
Speaker 1: thousandth of what this joker jerk makes on the sideline,
Speaker 1: go to work every day and put their cabooses on
Speaker 1: the line so people like Kaeperney can live in these
Speaker 1: multimillion dollar homes. And you put socks onbo You a
Speaker 1: funny guy, what is he a comedian? You're a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Get on the field of your clown play the football.
Speaker 1: By the way, Linda has that second Stanza. Let Linda
Speaker 1: go ahead read it. I didn't I didn't know it
Speaker 1: by memory. I don't know if any of you didn't know.
Speaker 1: It's just a part here where it's no no, I
Speaker 1: don't think so, not today. But it just talks about,
Speaker 1: you know, Spencer really mad now that you won't say
Speaker 1: I think they're just Spencer is just happy that someone's
Speaker 1: going to validate this because nobody knows about this Stanza
Speaker 1: and so that this will give a little fuel to
Speaker 1: the fodder. But it talks about it's actually a third
Speaker 1: Stanza and decrying former slaves that were working for the
Speaker 1: British Army and says their blood is washed out, their
Speaker 1: foul footsteps pollution. No refuge could save the hireling and
Speaker 1: slave from the terror of flight or the gloom of
Speaker 1: the grave and the star spangled banner and triumphed off
Speaker 1: wave or the land of the free and the home
Speaker 1: of the brave. So it's basically minimizing the black soldier
Speaker 1: as well as talking about the fact that he's an underling. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So again understand when people put the hand of the heart,
Speaker 1: they see the star spangled banner. There is another narrative
Speaker 1: that Francis Scott Key scripted and wrote to that we
Speaker 1: don't think about it. Like much of history, most people
Speaker 1: are going on autopilot and we can interpeace sets in
Speaker 1: the further we get away from the truth of history,
Speaker 1: our knowledge and understanding. Let me ask this question, is
Speaker 1: you I I could put you guys on for three
Speaker 1: hours one day, and I think this would be a
Speaker 1: really worthwhile conversation for the country and that's a tribute
Speaker 1: to both of you. But do you agree with me
Speaker 1: that most, the majority, the overwhelming majority spencer view racism
Speaker 1: as evil, which it is repugnant and disgusting and they
Speaker 1: absolutely shun listen. Civil societies exist because the majority of
Speaker 1: people choose to obey the law. If that was not
Speaker 1: the case, we would not elected a Barack Obama. I
Speaker 1: am an optimist in the strictest sense of the definition. However,
Speaker 1: we cannot have this convenient attitude about when people have
Speaker 1: this misgivings about history, and when we begin to voice
Speaker 1: that privileged groups. I don't care if it's white, black, green,
Speaker 1: yellow clubs, whatever the organization. Reinhold neiber wrote this in
Speaker 1: his book Moral Man, You're Moral society. Privileged groups rarely
Speaker 1: give up a sheer privilege without great and strong resistance.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. And what we feel and what
Speaker 1: we see in the neo Nazi reaction to this, this
Speaker 1: non violent act in Charlottesville is part of that resistance.
Speaker 1: It is a small faction, but unfortunately they have a
Speaker 1: large voice and the inherent nature of what we are
Speaker 1: in our culture. I don't even think it's a loud voice.
Speaker 1: I think they are a tiny, tiny insane. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they're but but but most people see them as insane.
Speaker 1: I mean, you do know that most people, by the way,
Speaker 1: don't you see When I when I praised the Boston
Speaker 1: protesters on Monday, what I said was there is a
Speaker 1: natural instinctive revulsion at people that want to associate themselves
Speaker 1: with that type of hatred, and the fact that of
Speaker 1: them went out there and stood up, we ato applaud
Speaker 1: them all because they did it, they did it peacefully,
Speaker 1: and the few little agitators that were there the police
Speaker 1: handled perfectly. I thought it was a strong stand. And
Speaker 1: and every conservative Dan bungino that I, oh, you know absolutely,
Speaker 1: I don't know these people who they are, what I
Speaker 1: ever want to know them. And it's not the conservative
Speaker 1: movement where I go sideways with people's when they try
Speaker 1: and brand falsely conservative, as every two four years we
Speaker 1: get the same crap that racist, sexist, homophobic, phobic, is homophobic,
Speaker 1: And you've dealt with it in your career, you know, Sean.
Speaker 1: I was listening to your show after that dreadful shooting
Speaker 1: and Steve Schalee, and you know, I have my own
Speaker 1: little thing I put on and you and I were
Speaker 1: both absolutely unequivocal and crystal clear in this point. For
Speaker 1: as much as we can't stand Bernie sanders ideological views,
Speaker 1: he was in no way responsible for the acts of derange,
Speaker 1: not at all. And I said it at the time,
Speaker 1: you said it a thousand times on the show because
Speaker 1: I listened that day. I listened the next day and
Speaker 1: I heard you say it, and every conservative out there
Speaker 1: with credibility said the same thing. But what happened with
Speaker 1: these lunatics? This this guy in Charlottesville, some maniac who
Speaker 1: has absolutely nothing to do with pure conservative values and
Speaker 1: the respect for God given Big all Right, kills a
Speaker 1: woman tragically, horrifically, and all of a sudden, every conservative
Speaker 1: in the country is supposed to apologize, we are you insane?
Speaker 1: Like condemn absolutely, of course, but apology for what we
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with the neo nazi maniacs. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, the Republican Party is the party that fought
Speaker 1: Jim Crow, that fought slavery, that fought for Big all Right.
Speaker 1: So people forget this. I mean, you want to talk
Speaker 1: about history, Spencer, That's real history. The real history of
Speaker 1: freedom and liberty is the history of the Republican Party.
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do whatsoever with Democrats and their
Speaker 1: their tendency to pin every single active I don't know
Speaker 1: if I want to Republican, Spencer, you can bail out
Speaker 1: because I I know this. You don't do a lot
Speaker 1: of politics. And this is the thing that frustrated me
Speaker 1: on the whole thing is you know, I I went
Speaker 1: back to and I have a tape of Donald Trump
Speaker 1: condemning Duke and racism and white supremacy, and and to
Speaker 1: him saying it to Matt Lowerd twenty years ago, and
Speaker 1: him saying it all throughout the campaign, and him saying
Speaker 1: it all throughout Charlottesville, and and so I and also
Speaker 1: knowing the man and knowing his business, and knowing the
Speaker 1: people he associates with, and knowing the people that he
Speaker 1: brought into his campaign. I know it all of all races, creeds, colors,
Speaker 1: and backgrounds. I'll finish this one thought. And the only
Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna say is the media would never tell
Speaker 1: that part of the story. And they never tell the
Speaker 1: part of the story where Hillary Clinton just seven years
Speaker 1: ago was praising a guy that was a former klansman
Speaker 1: and claimed that he was one of the greats of
Speaker 1: all time in politics, and her mentor and Jay William Fulbright, well,
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton praised him as his mentor, and he signed
Speaker 1: on to the Southern Manifesto. And you keep saying that
Speaker 1: we need to know our history, Well, I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: praising somebody that signed on to the Southern Manifesto to
Speaker 1: go against the Supreme Court and their decision on Brown
Speaker 1: versus Board of Education and the segregationist Jay William Fulbright
Speaker 1: like Robert Bird or against the Civil Rights Act of
Speaker 1: sixty four and the Voting Rights Act of sixty five
Speaker 1: and Lyndon Johnson to get those historic bill is past
Speaker 1: relied on the Republicans to get it done, not the Democrats,
Speaker 1: and not the people the Clinton's praise. Yeah, And the
Speaker 1: reason why those types of things happen is because everything
Speaker 1: moves towards the K. And listen, if you go to
Speaker 1: Europe right now, I guarantee you will not find the
Speaker 1: high school with Hitler's name on the side of it. Right.
Speaker 1: Why is that there is a part of the country
Speaker 1: that believes that the continent that believes and understands the
Speaker 1: travesty that that represented. And to think that someone in
Speaker 1: any point in time in history would subsequently come back
Speaker 1: and name a school after someone that was responsible for
Speaker 1: for so much is it is reprehensible. In a similar way,
Speaker 1: soft there there are fifty seven highways schools monuments, including
Speaker 1: the West Virginia State House in West Virginia, that praise
Speaker 1: Robert Bird the former klansman. Should they be taken down
Speaker 1: that Here's what I'm saying, The consciousness should be re
Speaker 1: examined for why they was there in the first place.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the kind of thinking that needs
Speaker 1: to go into any decisions that are made. We need
Speaker 1: to go back and look at all traditions and examine them,
Speaker 1: and if they fail in providing definitive enough support that
Speaker 1: they support what America stands for, they should always be
Speaker 1: re examined. And yes, in light of new information people
Speaker 1: are reintroducing to the legal system all the time, It's
Speaker 1: not new. We've always known that Bird was a former klansman.
Speaker 1: We always knew j. William Fulbright was against the Southern Manifesto.
Speaker 1: And and question that should be an indictment to anybody
Speaker 1: that did it, anybody that authorized that, that should be brought.
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying, Spencer is I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the double standard because they have ignored Trump's history and
Speaker 1: they are trying to bludge in him that he didn't
Speaker 1: say it enough times the right way. And meanwhile, there's
Speaker 1: this history over the course of his life where he
Speaker 1: has there's also the Clinton's history where they have praised
Speaker 1: people that did support the Southern Manifesto, that did even
Speaker 1: filibuster the Civil Rights Act in the case of bird
Speaker 1: al Gore's father was one of them, voted against it,
Speaker 1: and the history as the Republicans supported it, and they
Speaker 1: were never bludging the way Donald Trump is getting blunted. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to drag you deep into politics, your friend,
Speaker 1: and I just set out of that. Who shown. What
Speaker 1: I will do is talk about human nature. And the
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is, yes, it is good and evil,
Speaker 1: and it is yet very predictable. This is all part
Speaker 1: of a struggle that must be Time does a number
Speaker 1: on all of us. There was a time when Mohammad
Speaker 1: Ali was reviled. They sent him to jail for his
Speaker 1: beliefs and what he stood up for. And I cannot
Speaker 1: think of a more iconic figure than to see him
Speaker 1: with that cauldron in his hand, trembling from from Parkinson's.
Speaker 1: At that point, was there a more popular person in
Speaker 1: the world than Muhammad Ali. What he did then was
Speaker 1: no different and no less unjust. Now, when through the listen,
Speaker 1: I'll say this through the prison of history, thousand American
Speaker 1: heroes and America's treasure died in a war that became politicized,
Speaker 1: and we can't ask these brave men and women to
Speaker 1: do that ever. Again, all right, I want to get
Speaker 1: a response from Dan Bongino. You know, Sean, the problem
Speaker 1: with this is this is a very slippery slope. Spencer
Speaker 1: makes a good point, you know that. Listen that there
Speaker 1: there are obviously very's still a lot of open wounds
Speaker 1: about what happened in our history country with race, which
Speaker 1: is always gonna be troubled. The problem I have with this,
Speaker 1: if this is this was a problem all over the world.
Speaker 1: We were the one country on earth that, as you
Speaker 1: accurately stated, forfeited hundreds of thousands of lives to wipe
Speaker 1: the stain of slavery clean. Now, if we're going to
Speaker 1: start wiping down monuments and taking down monuments, where does
Speaker 1: it end? I mean where does are we basing it on? One?
Speaker 1: A level of imperfection? What level of interfection? If it
Speaker 1: offends one group? What if it offends another group? I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: what about statues of FDR. I mean, he was responsible
Speaker 1: for the intermit of Japanese or World War two? Do
Speaker 1: we take that down? The problem I have with this
Speaker 1: is the slippery slope never ends. It's time to acknowledge
Speaker 1: o history. It's not sanitized, it's not perfect, it's not clean.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it was ugly, but we are still the greatest
Speaker 1: and most prosperous country on earth. We should acknowledge the history,
Speaker 1: ignowed imperfections, and move on and stop catering the liberal
Speaker 1: snowflakes feelings about everything and sew, this was such a
Speaker 1: big deal. By the way, let me get a quick
Speaker 1: response and I gotta take a break. Uh, Spencer, I
Speaker 1: agree with what he just said. We cannot have knee
Speaker 1: jerk reactions. So oh no, no, no, you can't agree
Speaker 1: because you're ruining my program. I mean to stop. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. This is what I get ready to
Speaker 1: agree with. The focus should be on education only after
Speaker 1: great and the truth. Can we make a conscious detroit
Speaker 1: and decisions about but you know something, look at the
Speaker 1: mysterious reluctance and resistance especially and then this becomes political
Speaker 1: for me because conservatives have been saying let local municipalities,
Speaker 1: towns and cities decide. Let the states decide, because they're
Speaker 1: gonna have an active role. Thank you, Spencer Tillman, Thank
Speaker 1: you Dan Bongino. Love you both and I'll have you back.
Speaker 1: This is a great hour and I think an enlightening one.
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. He called and said, Governor, whatever you need,
Speaker 1: you got uh. And this is the quickest turnaround I've
Speaker 1: ever seen from the time that a governor made a
Speaker 1: disaster declaration to getting that granted. What that means for
Speaker 1: the late person out there is because the President so
Speaker 1: swiftly granted my application for a disaster declaration, that means
Speaker 1: it triggered all the resources of FEMA to help Texas.
Speaker 1: And what you will see over the coming weeks and
Speaker 1: months is a tremendous rebuilding from all this damage, and
Speaker 1: a large part of that will because of FEMA helping out.
Speaker 1: And so we are very appreciative of the way the
Speaker 1: President and the White House has responded to this catastrophe.
Speaker 1: All right, that's the governor And obviously things are top
Speaker 1: story news, round up, information overload our here on the
Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. What is happening down in Texas. Amazing
Speaker 1: inspiring stories one after another that we've been following today.
Speaker 1: The Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick of Texas is with us.
Speaker 1: Lieutenant Governor First, our thoughts and prayers go out to
Speaker 1: our friends and neighbors and fellow citizens down there, and
Speaker 1: I know, like me, many are going to be donating
Speaker 1: and offering whatever you guys need. Let's first talk about
Speaker 1: people's safety and where we are at this moment because
Speaker 1: the rains continue. That to Sean, always good to be
Speaker 1: with you. Uh. I wish it were different circumstances this time. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, we are as as the governor said that,
Speaker 1: we are in a rescue to save lives right now.
Speaker 1: You know, you do three steps. You know, it's first
Speaker 1: of all, it's rescue, and then it's rescue and recovery
Speaker 1: of lost lives, and then it's rebuilding. So we are
Speaker 1: still still in step one, Sean, because this storm in
Speaker 1: essence is still kind of in the first phase. You know,
Speaker 1: the hurricane hit Rockport, as you know, um, and and
Speaker 1: think about this, Sean, that would be like a hurricane
Speaker 1: hitting New York and then Boston gets flooded because we're
Speaker 1: about the same distance close from Rockport as Boston is
Speaker 1: to New York. And so that's the breath of this storm.
Speaker 1: And there are hundreds of thousands of people who are
Speaker 1: displaced from their homes. It could be close to three
Speaker 1: quarters of a million when it's all said and done.
Speaker 1: Either it's a family's home or friends home, or a
Speaker 1: shelter somewhere. And so right now we're still looking for lies.
Speaker 1: We're rescuing people off of rooftops and balconies and trees,
Speaker 1: and Shawn, every story is the same. Every story that
Speaker 1: you see is people just grateful to God for their life,
Speaker 1: grateful that their families are by, grateful to either the
Speaker 1: first responder or the volunteers that help them. And they
Speaker 1: and because they realize when it gets down to these
Speaker 1: moments in life, um, the stuff doesn't matter. You can
Speaker 1: buy a new TV and more furniture, you can get
Speaker 1: the sheet rock repaired, and it may take six months
Speaker 1: or a year to get all of this done or more,
Speaker 1: but it's your life that matters. And they're so grateful. Sean,
Speaker 1: these stories are incredible. I don't have enough time to
Speaker 1: tell you all of them, but it's incredible. And we
Speaker 1: are sewn in a country that is so divided in
Speaker 1: so many ways. Right now, Texas is one no Democrats
Speaker 1: and republic and no Liberals, were conservatives, no black, white
Speaker 1: and brown. It's neighbor helping neighbor, volunteers. You know, this
Speaker 1: movie Done Kirk is about the great uh you know
Speaker 1: volunteer when when the Armatta went to France to save
Speaker 1: the soldiers. Well, we have in our Mada not quite
Speaker 1: as big as the Dunkirk, but we have people bringing
Speaker 1: both from everywhere just jump in the water or getting
Speaker 1: their high wheel trucks and rescuing people. And it's just
Speaker 1: in this terrible time, it's so uplifting to see Texas
Speaker 1: come together as I knew they would. You really need
Speaker 1: as you do three phase to the governor, you talk
Speaker 1: about rescue, rescue. Of course, the rebuilding is going to
Speaker 1: take an awful long time. And it's look, it's heartbreaking
Speaker 1: because you know what it's like everybody in life. They
Speaker 1: work their hardest to maybe get a down payment to
Speaker 1: buy the first home, and and everything they work their
Speaker 1: entire lives for, you know, now is just gone. And
Speaker 1: and that's the least of the story when you're talking
Speaker 1: about saving human lives. But they really to have a
Speaker 1: successful rescue, I think you've got every component in place,
Speaker 1: and that is you've got neighbor helping neighbor, which is amazing.
Speaker 1: You've got local government, state government doing their job. Coordination
Speaker 1: seemingly to me with the federal government has been amazing. Also,
Speaker 1: is there any one component that has gone shy short
Speaker 1: of the Houston mayor defending the decision not to evacuate,
Speaker 1: which I know has become a big controversy. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, let me thank our mutual friend Donald Trump. Um,
Speaker 1: he has Uh. He responded not just like a president
Speaker 1: would sean, but like the CEO of a company, would
Speaker 1: you know. And that's how he thinks, and that is
Speaker 1: he's all a problem. The governor contacted him with our needs.
Speaker 1: He contacted the governor. They talked several times early on,
Speaker 1: and we got out in front of this. So the THEMA,
Speaker 1: the FEMA, and the federal government. We're ahead of this
Speaker 1: by days instead of trailing it by weeks, which we
Speaker 1: haven't seen in the past. So, first of all, you've
Speaker 1: got a president who thinks like a business guy, tell
Speaker 1: me what you need. He's an action guy, get it done, uh,
Speaker 1: And he's coming to Texas tomorrow. The next thing is
Speaker 1: the governor and at the state level, we have done
Speaker 1: the very best weeken getting ahead of this storm, even
Speaker 1: though it was a short noted storm a week or
Speaker 1: less and they got very big. And then you have
Speaker 1: the local officials. You work in them, um and and
Speaker 1: for the most part it's working well. The biggest issue,
Speaker 1: I would say, Sean, right now, there's so many people
Speaker 1: needing help. Yesterday the system just in Houston had over
Speaker 1: fifty thousand calls. I had a neighbor this morning and
Speaker 1: I'm in one. I'm in the northwest corner of Houston
Speaker 1: has been hitting one of the hardest and right now,
Speaker 1: as I talked to you, I got out yesterday. I'm
Speaker 1: surrounded by water right now. But one of my neighbors
Speaker 1: down the street there, eighty four year old father to
Speaker 1: list with them, had a stroke and they called one
Speaker 1: and there was just no answer because they're overwhelmed with
Speaker 1: calls and doing the best they can. And so it was,
Speaker 1: you know, getting someone with a high truck to get
Speaker 1: this eighty four year old fathers had a stroke out
Speaker 1: to a hospital and thank god, he's doing fine. But
Speaker 1: it's all of these, all of these issues that you
Speaker 1: right now, it's not the bureaucracy that you count on.
Speaker 1: It's just people doing instantly the right thing at the
Speaker 1: right time. But it starts at the top. The President
Speaker 1: has jumped out there and been a significant help to
Speaker 1: We're very grateful. The governor's doing his job. I'm doing
Speaker 1: the best to do my job. All the all the
Speaker 1: local lifted officials. But it's the people. It's the fireman,
Speaker 1: it's the police, it's the coast Guard, it's the bottom.
Speaker 1: What about these guys. The Cajun Navy is out again
Speaker 1: and force These people are amazing, right, Yeah, Well that's
Speaker 1: why I say it to me. It's it's like it's
Speaker 1: like our Dunkirk. I mean, it's it's a floatilla. I've
Speaker 1: got a friend of mine bringing a twenty six boat
Speaker 1: down from from Dallas today driving down here. Now, it's funny.
Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna be hard for me to get
Speaker 1: to him, but I'm gonna be out. I'm driving. I'm
Speaker 1: going out today with a guy who's meeting me yesterday.
Speaker 1: Did your did your house get flooded? Did your house
Speaker 1: get flooded? Did your house surrounded? Yeah? Right now the
Speaker 1: water is happy to my door over the mailbox, and
Speaker 1: we are surrounded by water. My daughter's house, if it's
Speaker 1: not flooded, has water at the door. Um, my son
Speaker 1: is dry. But look this this storm took in. Everyone
Speaker 1: show um if you look, I guess, finish your story, anyone.
Speaker 1: I want to hear the rest of that story. Go ahead, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well the rest of the story. So yesterday I'm out
Speaker 1: because my son in law had tried to get to
Speaker 1: his house. He had to walk about a half a
Speaker 1: mile through water or he and I see this big
Speaker 1: army truck come by, and and there's a road close side,
Speaker 1: and this big army truck comes by. He's got all
Speaker 1: these people in it. I mean, some big army truck,
Speaker 1: big World War two, you know, big army truck. And
Speaker 1: and so I get out, and you know, I walked
Speaker 1: through the water and I said, hey, whose truck is this?
Speaker 1: And a twenty five year old guy gets out, Um,
Speaker 1: and he says, my truck and he has k K
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, three p off roads. And he has a
Speaker 1: card business in a place called tom Ball, Texas. And
Speaker 1: he said, I bought this trunk to help out and
Speaker 1: strums like this two years ago when he was twenty three,
Speaker 1: because we had big floods here too, and last year
Speaker 1: and so he has been. In fact, I'm joining up
Speaker 1: with him shortly, and I'm going out going out with him. Um,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna go neighborhood, the house by house and
Speaker 1: see who needs help. And and he's just been doing
Speaker 1: that on his own. And Um, yesterday there was this
Speaker 1: there was this young man who got picked up by
Speaker 1: the coast guard off of balcony and we landed on
Speaker 1: the ground. Reporter asking the question, and he had his
Speaker 1: small sun with him and he said, and all they
Speaker 1: had were their backpacks. And I never forget this kid, John,
Speaker 1: because the kid had one of these cartoon backpatch, you know,
Speaker 1: the character on his back. As we walked away, and
Speaker 1: the man said, I've lost my car, I've lost everything.
Speaker 1: I don't have any clothes. My son has nothing for school,
Speaker 1: no clothes. But we got but we've got our lives
Speaker 1: and we're grateful and thank God, thank God. And so
Speaker 1: this is when we as a Christian nation are tested
Speaker 1: to help each other. And this is when we as
Speaker 1: a Christian nation really say to God, Um, it's in
Speaker 1: these times when it's tough that we look to you, uh,
Speaker 1: and we know it's in all of your will and
Speaker 1: that we will be fine. And I just see that
Speaker 1: spirit coming alive. And you hate to see things like
Speaker 1: this happened to bring that about. But you know better
Speaker 1: than anyone, because I know your heart and I know
Speaker 1: better than anyone that's who we are as a people.
Speaker 1: And sometimes we let politics and we let you know,
Speaker 1: headlines of the day, and and the haters out there
Speaker 1: try to divide us. We're not a divided country. We
Speaker 1: we have a common bond that we love each other
Speaker 1: and we want to help each other. Lieutenant Governor, I
Speaker 1: was here in New York on nine eleven, and we
Speaker 1: saw the same thing happen. I mean, instantaneously, people just
Speaker 1: came out to help their neighbor. They weren't asking what
Speaker 1: their political orientation was either, you know, I remember, I
Speaker 1: just it sticks in my memory. I mean, Campbell's Soup
Speaker 1: set up free food immediately for everybody that was working
Speaker 1: down a ground zero. Um, is there anything now? I'm
Speaker 1: wiring money to Samaritan's Purson. I've worked with them for
Speaker 1: years and they are there specifically. Yeah, I mean, they're
Speaker 1: specifically targeting the people in Houston. You know, but so
Speaker 1: many people I've watched on social media and there are
Speaker 1: a few haters out there that just want to turn
Speaker 1: everything into politics. But they're the minority and you know,
Speaker 1: but everybody, those of us that are not there, we
Speaker 1: kind of feel helpless and we want to help out
Speaker 1: our friends in Texas. UM, what do you recommend we do? Uh? Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, our prayers are and never never under
Speaker 1: estimates power prayer. But number two, money is needed. You know, Look,
Speaker 1: we will have female dollars and that's why the President
Speaker 1: has already been so helpful, and that will help us
Speaker 1: in the rebuild and the state we have, Thank goodness,
Speaker 1: we protect our any Day Fund, that's the Economic Stabilization
Speaker 1: fun We have about ten billion in it, which is
Speaker 1: more than most days combined. But that will decks depleted.
Speaker 1: That's depleted quickly in times like this. UM. And then
Speaker 1: many people have insurance and many people don't. But when
Speaker 1: you send it to money to Samaritan's Purse or you're
Speaker 1: sending money to Red Cross dot org, you're helping the
Speaker 1: people like those I talked about who have nothing left.
Speaker 1: And there will be some government assistant, but they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to be people who to rebuild their lives. And
Speaker 1: so give now as much as you can give your audience,
Speaker 1: I know it is a very generous in giving audience
Speaker 1: Sumaritan's purse again is awesome or Red Cross dot Org
Speaker 1: and help our folks here and then you know what
Speaker 1: people who live nearby, um if they got a vote
Speaker 1: and they can come here and help. I gotta take
Speaker 1: a quick break. We'll come back more with the Lieutenant
Speaker 1: Governor of Texas. He's in Houston now as we speak.
Speaker 1: Still unprecedented rain as we as we continue our coverage,
Speaker 1: all right, glad you with us snooze round up information,
Speaker 1: overload our here on the Sean Hannity Show. Our top
Speaker 1: story is the flooding, the disaster. This is beyond anything
Speaker 1: they have ever seen down in Texas. The Lieutenant Governor
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick is with us as we continue. But how
Speaker 1: many people still are out there that you need to rescue? Well, yesterday,
Speaker 1: just in Houston we rescued I'm told the numbers and
Speaker 1: won't be official till later. We rescued about eighteen hundred people.
Speaker 1: Yesterday we had fifty six thousand phone calls that I
Speaker 1: may have mentioned into to nine eleven yesterday we still
Speaker 1: I mean into one. We still have people on rooftops,
Speaker 1: We still have people on balconies, and Sean, are we
Speaker 1: getting them food and water in the meantime, as the
Speaker 1: rescue effort moves forward, nobody. In other words, we don't
Speaker 1: expect any more fatalities here. Um, are we able to
Speaker 1: get these these people in these situations the food and
Speaker 1: water they need to just hang in there till till
Speaker 1: the will help arrive. We're doing our best, you know,
Speaker 1: from a state level, we're doing our best. Volunteers are
Speaker 1: doing our best, our churches are stepping up. But this
Speaker 1: is an ongoing issue, Sean. This is not like Look,
Speaker 1: nothing like this has happened in American history. You think
Speaker 1: of the great disasters, the San Francisco roth Way, to
Speaker 1: scot Fire, the Galveston flood. But this is going to be, sadly,
Speaker 1: maybe at the top of the list, not even in
Speaker 1: the lost lives, but in terms of economic damage. And
Speaker 1: it's incalculable. It's incalculable. And and the and the stories
Speaker 1: you're right about humanity are amazing. Are you glad the
Speaker 1: president is coming tomorrow? Absolutely? Look, you know, um, I
Speaker 1: think this president has done a great job as president,
Speaker 1: and and he cares about people, and I know that
Speaker 1: he loves Texas as he loves every place else. But
Speaker 1: he's got a fondness for Texas and and he was
Speaker 1: on the phone right away with the governor. And um,
Speaker 1: I last talked to the President about three weeks ago
Speaker 1: before all this happened. But I know he's a person
Speaker 1: of action and he wants to make this, get this done,
Speaker 1: and and he'll put the right resources in and he'll
Speaker 1: do all we can. So no, we're we're happy to
Speaker 1: have him here. Texas loves him, he loves Texas and
Speaker 1: and it will be uh, but it will be eye
Speaker 1: opening for him until you can it's like nine eleven, Shawn.
Speaker 1: I was not there in the New York many times
Speaker 1: in my life, but it was not there that time.
Speaker 1: And I did the pictures to ever tell the story.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know what I don't understand, Listen. I
Speaker 1: saw these elderly people and this goes back to the
Speaker 1: evacuation and show I just don't I'm not in a
Speaker 1: mode where I think anything should be politicized right now.
Speaker 1: But you know, listen, I understand Texas, and I understand
Speaker 1: it's hard for government to tell anybody they want to
Speaker 1: stay in their house if you're an adult and you're
Speaker 1: capable and you want to take the risk. My attitude
Speaker 1: is government shouldn't have the right to do that. But
Speaker 1: when I saw all these old people in a nursing home,
Speaker 1: they at that point, we've got to make decisions for people.
Speaker 1: And I saw this poor woman knitting and she's up
Speaker 1: literally up to a waste and water. I didn't understand
Speaker 1: that part of it. Why did Why did they not
Speaker 1: in that instance when they were given an evacuation order
Speaker 1: by you and the governor that the local people didn't
Speaker 1: want to do it. I don't understand. Uh, it always happens, Um.
Speaker 1: There are there are people who just decide they don't
Speaker 1: want to leave because that's their possessions. There are other
Speaker 1: people who can ride it out. And you know what
Speaker 1: is so happened so often shown unfortunately, well I guess
Speaker 1: fortunately is the right word. Big storms are predicted, that
Speaker 1: nothing happens, and after a while people get a little
Speaker 1: with jaded. Well, you know, it's really not going to
Speaker 1: be as bad as they say, and every now and
Speaker 1: then it is. And this is one of those times.
Speaker 1: And the thing that concerned the governor and the reason
Speaker 1: he said, I think appropriately a few days ago before
Speaker 1: the storm hit, that you know, if you had a
Speaker 1: few vacation days, get out of Houston, get out of Corpus.
Speaker 1: And Corpus was spared for the most part because the
Speaker 1: storm moved a little to the right in the last minute.
Speaker 1: But Houston, it was clear, Sean, it was clear that
Speaker 1: we were going to be hit with with somewhere between
Speaker 1: fifteen and twenty five inches of rain, but there was
Speaker 1: the potential to get forty or more. And now we're
Speaker 1: in that potential. And I know, to my own son
Speaker 1: and to my own daughter, I said to that five grandkids,
Speaker 1: and I said to them, look, you can't risk you
Speaker 1: can't take a chance on the worst won't happen in
Speaker 1: this case, because if the meteorologists are correct, and if
Speaker 1: this storm stalls and we get forty inches of water,
Speaker 1: that's unprecedented. It never happened. It happened. And my my
Speaker 1: my niece is a doctor and she lives down in Houston,
Speaker 1: and she's sending me pictures. I mean, everybody's home is underwater.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Uh. Well, listen, Mr Lieutenant Governor, we will
Speaker 1: we will take you up on your challenge. The country's
Speaker 1: with you. We are sending our our many thoughts and
Speaker 1: prayers to our friends in Texas, and you guys, hang
Speaker 1: tough as I know you will under very difficult circumstances,
Speaker 1: and you have our many prayers, sir, Thank you Sean.
Speaker 1: It's a Texas size the disaster, but we'll have a
Speaker 1: Texas size effort. We've got a Texas size heart joined
Speaker 1: by America. We'll get through to it, all right. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much, Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick of Texas. Time
Speaker 1: to get your party light on and and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk to Diamond self at least roll this world turns.
Speaker 1: I just turned it. Look at you. Diamond and Silk
Speaker 1: are partying in the house this Friday. Amazing, Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. I got to know you guys on the
Speaker 1: campaign trail. You come you Remember when we first met,
Speaker 1: was it that pastor Scott? It was pastors Remember when
Speaker 1: I went into my preacher mode. He wants me, why
Speaker 1: don't we go together, all of us, and he wants
Speaker 1: me to do a Sermont, which, by the way, I
Speaker 1: am the least qualified. You know why, because I'm the
Speaker 1: one that needs like the forgiveness that I'm the guy
Speaker 1: that needs the salvation. You know, I'm the one that
Speaker 1: Jesus came for. I'm not the good person in the pew. Um.
Speaker 1: But I got to and you guys were want I
Speaker 1: had been watching you with now our president. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and I got you guys were so kind to me,
Speaker 1: and it's like we just bonded. I'm like, I love
Speaker 1: those two. I love these women. They were all some
Speaker 1: how y'all doing? Welcome to New York? Yes? Now where
Speaker 1: do you live? North Carolina? Wow? You know I have
Speaker 1: some family in North Carolina. We're in North Carolina, Carolina
Speaker 1: Bay okay baby? Um, so I asked you guys to
Speaker 1: do the last word on my TV show. Now I
Speaker 1: had to cancer because the news one or two nights.
Speaker 1: But you've been doing it our last two weeks. How's
Speaker 1: the reaction? Oh? People love it. They absolutely love that
Speaker 1: we're doing a final word. It is good. So and
Speaker 1: then we tweeted out it goes crazy, amazing, amazing. You know, Um,
Speaker 1: how did you two become friends? How do you give
Speaker 1: me the relationship here? Well, we've we've always been related,
Speaker 1: but listen, we are blood. So it's always like this,
Speaker 1: You're not I mean same mama saying that. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: and has always been moldy and Philk has always second emotion.
Speaker 1: Yea gun as kids. I guess we were first. We
Speaker 1: didn't even realize we were funny until we did a video. No, really,
Speaker 1: we didn't. We didn't even know this stuff was funny
Speaker 1: until we did the first video and we played it back,
Speaker 1: and the way she was looking, I'm like, this is crazy.
Speaker 1: Uh hands and the cocktails that natural, right, And we
Speaker 1: didn't know. Why did you fall in love with Donald Trump?
Speaker 1: Because he said everything that made sense? That's why I
Speaker 1: want to secure the border. Don't we secure our house?
Speaker 1: The White House is secured, This one should be secure
Speaker 1: that I want to bring back jobs. Why would you
Speaker 1: outsource good jobs from Americans? You know, I didn't want
Speaker 1: to bring back spirit. We need spirit really. Right where
Speaker 1: we're walking hand in hand, we're getting some things that
Speaker 1: I love the fact that he want to I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go yes, man, you make me. You you do make
Speaker 1: people say amen. My audience loves you both, love you guys.
Speaker 1: And what do you think of all I'm talking every night?
Speaker 1: You see how hard I'm I'm fighting back. And by
Speaker 1: the way, they're trying to kill me. You know that
Speaker 1: right you're watching it, but you but you're not gonna
Speaker 1: go down, don't you worry. That's what they're trying to
Speaker 1: do is silence to you. They're trying to silence everybody
Speaker 1: because they don't want the truth to be told that
Speaker 1: the Democrats did absolutely nothing in the last eight years.
Speaker 1: That's the most I think I've ever heard you say,
Speaker 1: still can one time, Still can talk. But I know
Speaker 1: how to stay in my own lane. But you know,
Speaker 1: I keep talking. I talked a lot in the election
Speaker 1: about this. There are fifty millions millions of our fellow
Speaker 1: citizens and poverty and on food stamps, and nine million
Speaker 1: out of the labor force, and the fifty one year
Speaker 1: low in in homeownership. I started out with nothing I
Speaker 1: really did in my adult life. Nothing. I worked hard
Speaker 1: and all I had to America, and my parents gave
Speaker 1: me am I gonna give them all credit. And God.
Speaker 1: I had a ladder the client, and I had the
Speaker 1: rungs of the ladder. There. The rungs are gone right now,
Speaker 1: that's right, yes, the tools that that you need in
Speaker 1: order to be able to get to that point the
Speaker 1: top of the ladder. Oh my chopping my neck. By
Speaker 1: the way, Kim Kardashian's got nothing on you. See, holy, holy,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Dear Linda, look at that diamond necklace.
Speaker 1: These are beautiful women. I'm in all of the entire
Speaker 1: segments beautiful. But I am misterized how big those diamonds are.
Speaker 1: Thank you. So look at those diamonds. Wow. But let
Speaker 1: me tell you Donald, No, no, no, this has nothing
Speaker 1: to do I had this before Donald Trump. Okay, now understand,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. It took hard work to
Speaker 1: get here because in spite of being called out of
Speaker 1: our names, being laughed at, talked about, criticized, and during
Speaker 1: the traumatize, we got here and we made it to
Speaker 1: this point. You took a lot of heat, like we
Speaker 1: all do this. Anybody supports the president's under fire, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you this, I don't care anymore. That's right. I
Speaker 1: don't even care that. And I also, in the process,
Speaker 1: while we may have enemies, I got I got to
Speaker 1: be friends with you guys. Serious. I got to meet
Speaker 1: the most amazing people. So this is what I'm thinking about.
Speaker 1: My audience has been so amazing to me. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about doing a few stops for free around the country,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's all on me, and I
Speaker 1: want to put together a show. You do like Terrence
Speaker 1: when he was on, Terence, I didn't really see him.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I didn't see you miss my show. I
Speaker 1: didn't miss you know him though, I know who you're
Speaker 1: talking about, Terence Williams. I'm thinking and I want to
Speaker 1: bring a few of our friends that are you know,
Speaker 1: that are on my show regularly, and I want to
Speaker 1: do a few shows around the country. I want to
Speaker 1: invite both of you to be a part of it.
Speaker 1: Will be honored, right, will be fun. Yeah? Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: you guys, go up and do your thing, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to do. Have you guys thought and maybe you're
Speaker 1: doing it already of maybe doing what you do on
Speaker 1: the road. Just you two, you guys haven't done this.
Speaker 1: I'll get you the speaking guy. I'll get you booked
Speaker 1: every day. I only want no, no, no no, I don't
Speaker 1: want to so great. You know, we always say if
Speaker 1: you ever want to make God laugh, telling me your plans.
Speaker 1: We had no plans. Have we just been going with
Speaker 1: the flow? Are you very religious? Both of you listen,
Speaker 1: believe in God, and nobody's gonna stop me for believing
Speaker 1: in you. Guys are the You're in a good part
Speaker 1: of the pew. They put the centers on this side
Speaker 1: and they put you know, diamond and silk on the
Speaker 1: other side. It's all so true, so true. Um, these
Speaker 1: are pretty tough times. I can't believe how pathetically weak
Speaker 1: we're a bookings are. And you guys did a u
Speaker 1: final word the other night about I was like, you
Speaker 1: want to like go through it and then you just
Speaker 1: do it because it's so good. What do we do? Okay,
Speaker 1: first one, because we haven't done so many about the
Speaker 1: Republican bark. Yeah, they are well, they are weak, very weak,
Speaker 1: and they got to get themselves together and see it's
Speaker 1: time for them to stop working for their own greed
Speaker 1: and start working for the need of people's right. And
Speaker 1: I think so that maybe somebody may be getting some kickback.
Speaker 1: Patti Wack, give a dog a ball, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to take the ball back. That's because this is
Speaker 1: about the American people. We pay you, okay to do
Speaker 1: a job, and if you can't do your job, then
Speaker 1: maybe it's time for us to repeal and replace you
Speaker 1: piece out boom wow. And that's just zero prep. I mean, um,
Speaker 1: you know, um, one of the things in these hard
Speaker 1: times I like to kind of on Friday in this
Speaker 1: final hair I just like to light it up. I mean,
Speaker 1: these weeks are intense. Yeah, weeks are intense, and it's
Speaker 1: sort of like the campaign never never rendered for a
Speaker 1: lot of us. And I think you both remind everybody
Speaker 1: that we can laugh. And you know what, We're gonna win.
Speaker 1: And if we don't win, I'm going down with the ship.
Speaker 1: You guys are coming with me. Well we're gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you the life savers. Ooh, and I'll just
Speaker 1: I'll swim it myself. I'll just you know, I'll just sink,
Speaker 1: but keep the life savers for for for later. But
Speaker 1: we're gonna win this. We said he was going to
Speaker 1: be president and he's We said he was going to
Speaker 1: be the best president and then going to happen that. Listen,
Speaker 1: don't worry about nothing. We got to letting not your
Speaker 1: heart beat trouble TV show tonight. Would you guys come
Speaker 1: on my TV show tonight, all right, and then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna send you to my favorite restaurant on me tonight.
Speaker 1: Deal Okay, okay, deal, that wasn't that hard A Welcome
Speaker 1: to New York Diamond And so go to Twitter at
Speaker 1: Sean Hannity and you can see their commentaries from this week.
Speaker 1: It's so good. I love you girls. Ladies. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but to me, you're young at heart right female. You
Speaker 1: love it. I love you both, and you guys played
Speaker 1: an amazing role. You had an impact in this election
Speaker 1: and you took great heat to do it. I admire
Speaker 1: your your strength, your courage, your commitment, and now that
Speaker 1: we we have become friends and I value your friendship.
Speaker 1: God bless you both. Thank you. Thank you for making
Speaker 1: me happy. You make me laugh. Thank you. It makes
Speaker 1: me very happy.