WEBVTT - S3E3: Battle Lines

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, it's your host ed helms.

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<v Speaker 1>that's it, on with the chaos. This is Snaffou Season

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<v Speaker 1>three Formula six last time on Snaffou, the temperance movement

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<v Speaker 1>swept America. Every abolitionist was a teetotal Mabel Walker. Willebrandt

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<v Speaker 1>was hired to lead prohibition enforcement.

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<v Speaker 3>There's one way it can be done, get at the

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<v Speaker 3>source of supply.

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<v Speaker 1>And much of prohibition enforcement falls strangely to the US

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<v Speaker 1>Treasury Department, which.

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<v Speaker 4>Is another way of saying we're going to use it

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<v Speaker 4>for political payoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nineteen eighteen in France, the Western Front. Yep, we're

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<v Speaker 1>a long way from the speakeasies of New York, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're here in the rolling French countryside to meet a

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<v Speaker 1>new character in our He's sitting inside a combat tank

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<v Speaker 1>clattering across the bloody battlefield. His name George Cassidy, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's under attack. The tank rolls down a slope as

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<v Speaker 1>shells explode around it, and then it sinks into a

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<v Speaker 1>crater of mud. Its steel armor shields George and his

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<v Speaker 1>crew from the bright yellow bursts of artillery flame, but

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<v Speaker 1>it can't protect them from the mist that's engulfed the field.

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<v Speaker 1>World War one's most insidious weapon, mustard gas. On the battlefield.

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<v Speaker 1>Poison gas was turning war into a new kind of nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>Both Germany and the US were experimenting with lethal gases

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<v Speaker 1>that were quickly becoming the deadliest instruments in the history

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<v Speaker 1>of warfare. The Great War had a nickname the Chemist's War,

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<v Speaker 1>and now Mustard gas seeps into George Cassidy's tank and

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<v Speaker 1>into the eyes, noses, and lungs of the tankers. George

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<v Speaker 1>and his two crewmates choke at the controls as the

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<v Speaker 1>machine grinds to a halt. The deadly mist causes the

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<v Speaker 1>tankers to go blind, vomit, and start losing consciousness. The

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<v Speaker 1>other two men pass out. George holds on, but poisoned

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<v Speaker 1>by the gas. George is too weak to move, blinking

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<v Speaker 1>and struggling to breathe while the battle rages around him.

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<v Speaker 1>His crewmates have fallen silent. Finally, footsteps approach the tank.

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<v Speaker 1>George hears hands banging on the outside, shouts shadows over

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<v Speaker 1>the viewport as men peer inside. George's heart stops. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it the enemy? The door swings open, and thank god,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Yanks. George is rescued, carried up out of

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<v Speaker 1>the crater in the pool of gas. George makes it

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<v Speaker 1>off the battlefield alive, but He's devastated to find out

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<v Speaker 1>he's the only survivor from his crew. In nineteen nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>when a million American soldiers in France begin the journey home,

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<v Speaker 1>George is among the troops packed like sardines into fleets

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<v Speaker 1>of liners and cargo ships, leaving the blood soaked trenches

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<v Speaker 1>of the Western Front behind them. As he gazes across

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlantic, George coughs. His lungs are pocked with chemical burns.

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<v Speaker 1>For the rest of his life, every cough reminds him

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<v Speaker 1>of the horrors he'd faced in the war, horrors that

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<v Speaker 1>showed how scientific advancements could be co opted to create

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<v Speaker 1>weapons of mass murder. But now George is heading home,

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<v Speaker 1>and soon he'll be starting a new life. As the

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<v Speaker 1>shores of the good old us of A come into view,

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<v Speaker 1>George is pondering a very important question, Where the hell

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<v Speaker 1>can he get a drink back home? That question was

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<v Speaker 1>at the center of another raging war, one in which

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<v Speaker 1>he would soon find himself smack dab in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Ed Helms and this is Snaffo, a show about

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<v Speaker 1>history's greatest screw ups. This is season three, The story

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<v Speaker 1>of Formula six. How Prohibition's war on alcohol went so

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<v Speaker 1>off the rails the government wound up poisoning its own people.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're riding shotgun with the bootleggers, because men like

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<v Speaker 1>George Cassidy didn't come home from the fight in France

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<v Speaker 1>just to take the new laws laying down. As Mabel

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<v Speaker 1>Walker Willebrandt became prohibitions champion, George Cassidy would become one

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<v Speaker 1>of its greatest defires, and the two sides they represented

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<v Speaker 1>were about to clash. In nineteen twenty two, two years

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<v Speaker 1>into Prohibition, Mabel Walker Willebrandt was settling into her gig

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<v Speaker 1>as head honcho of Prohibition Enforcement to get a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of how the new US Assistant Attorney General approached her job.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a few things about her you should know.

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<v Speaker 1>Little Mabel grew up crisscrossing the Great Plains in a

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<v Speaker 1>nine by twelve foot tent pitched in the fields of Kansas, Missouri,

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<v Speaker 1>and Oklahoma. Her family was always on the move, fleeing

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<v Speaker 1>the latest natural disaster, tornadoes, ice storms, that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Mabel's earliest memory from childhood was of a flash flood

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<v Speaker 1>rushing through their tent, her mom taking the kitchen table

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<v Speaker 1>and using it as a raft to keep her daughter

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<v Speaker 1>Afloat alive. A little like that time my cub scout

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<v Speaker 1>trip got rained out, except I had a home to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to. That experience had quite an impact on

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<v Speaker 1>young Mabel.

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<v Speaker 4>She was a very serious woman.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't say, Daniel, okrint. She woke up every day.

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<v Speaker 4>The first thing she did was taken an ice cold bath,

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<v Speaker 4>which gives an indication. I think of how tough she was.

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<v Speaker 1>Cold lunging is all the rage these days. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>Mabel was just ahead of the curve. In any case,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ice Queen didn't get to become the highest ranking

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<v Speaker 1>woman in the United States government by waking up each

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<v Speaker 1>day to whistling birds opening her bedroom shades and the

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<v Speaker 1>soft glow of the morning sun. No, she woke up

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<v Speaker 1>every morning with her goddamn game face on. For starters,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just Satan's last stronghold, New York City that

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<v Speaker 1>was flouting the law. In Mabel's backyard, the supposed Dry

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<v Speaker 1>Citadel speakeasies were popping up on every corner. By some estimates,

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<v Speaker 1>there were three thousand in the nation's capital. But Mabel's

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<v Speaker 1>headaches extended well beyond the metropolises. Of the Northeast. Also

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<v Speaker 1>thumbing its nose at Prohibition was the fine city of Savannah, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>which had turned into an unofficial headquarters for illegal drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Booze was flowing, and so were the criminals delivering it. Bootleggers,

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<v Speaker 1>as they were called. The term goes back to the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundreds, when traders slid their flasks of liquor into

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<v Speaker 1>their boots. During Prohibition, bootlegging became a household term banks

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<v Speaker 1>in no small part to the notorious Georgia syndicate, the

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<v Speaker 1>Savannah Four. Their leader was a guy named Willie Harr.

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<v Speaker 1>Willie owned and controlled a fleet of ships that transported

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<v Speaker 1>liquor from Scotland and France to another British territory, the Bahamas.

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<v Speaker 1>From there it was shipped to a dozen different states

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<v Speaker 1>in the US, often hidden in secret man made caves

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<v Speaker 1>up and down the US coast. Willie Harr didn't exactly

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<v Speaker 1>keep a low profile. His nick name was the Admiral

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<v Speaker 1>of Bootleggers, and his Savannah Four had a recreational baseball squad.

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<v Speaker 1>Their team name presumably slapped across their uniforms, the Bootlegger Team.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume they were part of an all criminal baseball

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<v Speaker 1>league along with the tax Dodgers. Sorry, I had to

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<v Speaker 1>go there. Mabel was determined to bust them up and

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<v Speaker 1>even sent a dozen Prohibition Bureau agents to Savannah to

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<v Speaker 1>do the job. But Willy Harr's ring had judges politicians,

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<v Speaker 1>and it turns out prohibition agents on its payroll, and

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<v Speaker 1>those agents, convinced to look the other way, came back

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<v Speaker 1>from Savannah empty handed. I hope they at least brought

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<v Speaker 1>back some bootlegger team swag for Mabel. Willie Harror would

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<v Speaker 1>have a future run in with Mabel. Put a pin

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<v Speaker 1>in that for a second. But as brazen as Horror

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<v Speaker 1>in the Savannah four might have been, the most brazen

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<v Speaker 1>bootlegger of all was operating right under Mabel's nose, which

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<v Speaker 1>brings us back to good old George Cassidy.

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<v Speaker 2>On the ship coming back, they had a poll about

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<v Speaker 2>who was in favor of prohibition, and out of the

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand, five hundred guys on the troop carrier, only

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<v Speaker 2>ninety eight wanted prohibition.

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<v Speaker 1>After George got off the ship from France, he headed

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<v Speaker 1>home to Virginia, and he had plenty of stories for

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<v Speaker 1>his pals.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just so damn gregarious.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Fred Cassidy, George's son.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't give a shit who you were, where you were, from,

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<v Speaker 2>what you did, or any of that stuff. Come on up,

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<v Speaker 2>have a drink with me, you know, and we'll have

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<v Speaker 2>a good time. We'll talk about all kinds of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>George party then style.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a dapper dude. If you ever saw him

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<v Speaker 2>in his Irish War Veterans' National Commander's uniform, you would

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<v Speaker 2>have thought he was a general of the most powerful

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<v Speaker 2>army in the world or something.

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<v Speaker 1>George also had a signature greenfelt hat that gave him

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<v Speaker 1>an unmistakable look. A snappily dressed party animal with a

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<v Speaker 1>trove of war stories, Georgie was one of a kind,

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<v Speaker 1>but he struggled to transition back to civilian life. Why

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<v Speaker 1>poison The mustard gas George had sucked in destroyed his lungs,

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<v Speaker 1>which made it hard for him to find work. Before

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<v Speaker 1>the war, George had been a brakeman on the Pennsylvania Railroad.

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<v Speaker 2>When he came back, he couldn't pass their physical to

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<v Speaker 2>get rehired.

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<v Speaker 1>George couldn't find a steady gig anywhere else either. He

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<v Speaker 1>put his body on the line for his home country,

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<v Speaker 1>and now it was letting him down. When he finally

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<v Speaker 1>did find work, it wasn't the kind of job that

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<v Speaker 1>had his parents bursting with pride. You see, George didn't

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<v Speaker 1>grow up in a household of drinkers, really the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>George's Irish American father had been sober for decades. His mom,

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<v Speaker 1>a brit made herself at home in the USA by

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<v Speaker 1>becoming a proud card carrying member of the Women's Christian

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<v Speaker 1>Temperance Union. But none of that rubbed off on George.

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<v Speaker 2>He liked to imbibe. Everybody around my dad liked to imbibe.

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<v Speaker 1>Which isn't a surprise given George was from the moonshining

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<v Speaker 1>capital of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a ton of moonshining going on in Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of the Virginia farmers have their stills out

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<v Speaker 2>in a discrete.

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<v Speaker 1>Area in Appalachia. Moonshining had been prevalent since the Civil War,

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<v Speaker 1>when moonshiners distilled illegal liquor at night, and then drivers

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<v Speaker 1>or bootleggers smuggled it across the region. When prohibition passed,

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<v Speaker 1>this was all supposed to get shut down right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>turns out it ain't so easy. To change an entire

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<v Speaker 1>culture overnight. But that was essentially the task facing the

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<v Speaker 1>prohibition agents under Mabel Walker Willebrandt a tall order in

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<v Speaker 1>a place like Franklin County, Virginia, nestled in the beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Ridge Mountains, where ninety nine out of every hundred

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<v Speaker 1>people were connected to the moonshine business. One agent reported

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<v Speaker 1>back to DC on the pointlessness of even bothering the rests.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry to report that at this time it is

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<v Speaker 5>almost impossible to get a conviction.

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<v Speaker 1>In any case.

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<v Speaker 5>Juries are in sympathy with the bootlegger and the moonshiner.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know when the moonshiners themselves included judges, politicians,

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<v Speaker 1>and the local police, how are you supposed to stop that?

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<v Speaker 1>People like George came back from the war looking for

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<v Speaker 1>work and saw an opportunity. Here's one American artillery captain

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<v Speaker 1>who was in the Reserve Corps writing to his fiance.

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<v Speaker 5>It looks to me like the moonshine business is going

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<v Speaker 5>to be pretty good. Some of us want to get

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<v Speaker 5>in on the ground floor. At least we want to

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<v Speaker 5>get in there in time to lay in us alive

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<v Speaker 5>for future consumption.

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<v Speaker 1>That's thirty four year old future president Harry Truman. Fellas

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<v Speaker 1>Like Harry saw bootlegging as a lucrative investment opportunity, George

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<v Speaker 1>Cassidy saw it as something else, a lifeline. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>George was running out of options. He was a disabled

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<v Speaker 1>veteran out of work, which is why ship liquor from

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<v Speaker 1>his neighborhood to money drinkers across DC felt like a

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<v Speaker 1>necessary career choice. He started small, just a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>bottles for friends and friends of friends, then a few more,

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<v Speaker 1>and a few more. His Blue Ridge Virginia product must

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<v Speaker 1>have been pretty good, because pretty soon the orders were

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<v Speaker 1>flowing one way, and George kept the moonshine flowing the other.

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<v Speaker 1>George's lifeline was becoming a gold mine because George's clients, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they were the kind of people who liked to meet

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<v Speaker 1>at the Hotel Varnum in Washington, d C. The Varnum's

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<v Speaker 1>a grand old hotel at the corner of C Street

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<v Speaker 1>in New Jersey Avenue, a meeting place. Outside, George sees

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<v Speaker 1>two well dressed white men. He gets out and shakes

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<v Speaker 1>their hands, then heads around back to make a delivery.

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<v Speaker 1>He hands off a small paper package for his next delivery,

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<v Speaker 1>George grabs two bags out of his trunk, one in

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<v Speaker 1>each hand. George walks along New Jersey Avenue, nodding and

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<v Speaker 1>smiling to passers by. He was the friendly sort. George

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<v Speaker 1>then crosses the street at Independence Avenue towards his next stop,

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<v Speaker 1>a white building with a very large, very conspicuous dome. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably the one you're thinking of. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>the US Capitol building. George's delivery route doesn't take him

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<v Speaker 1>into the Capitol itself, but rather into the surrounding buildings

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<v Speaker 1>where members of Congress have their offices. Stepping into the

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<v Speaker 1>House Office building, George gives a nod to the security

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<v Speaker 1>fellaws at the door, and with his bags full of booze,

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<v Speaker 1>walks right in. That's right. Among the buyers for George's

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<v Speaker 1>top quality of Virginia hooch are the nation's lawmakers. His

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<v Speaker 1>clientele are powerful men of every political party and persuasion.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, George isn't just any bootlegger. He's become the

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<v Speaker 1>go to bootlegger for Congress. And Congress well they're pretty thirsty. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Mabel's not blind to this. She makes regular visits to

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<v Speaker 1>the Capitol. Sometimes she even sits in the gallery of

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate Chamber room to hear the nation's lawmakers present

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<v Speaker 1>their plans.

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<v Speaker 3>During the closing days of a recent session, a senator

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<v Speaker 3>objected to and prevented the passage of important legislation while

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<v Speaker 3>in such a condition of intoxication that he had to

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<v Speaker 3>hold his desk to keep himself upright. I have become

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<v Speaker 3>well acquainted with the fact that many Congressmen and senators

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<v Speaker 3>who vote for the bills designed to aid prohibition enforcement

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<v Speaker 3>are persistent violators of the law.

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<v Speaker 1>As people across the country were now drinking more than ever,

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<v Speaker 1>and bootleggers across the Eastern Seaboard were running wild, Congress

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<v Speaker 1>was too shitfaced to even pretend that they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to do something about it. Mabel's corrupt bureau agents were

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<v Speaker 1>proving to be just as worthless. It was time for

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<v Speaker 1>Mabel to take things into her own hands.

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<v Speaker 6>The early twentieth century is a uniquely poisonous time for

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<v Speaker 6>a number of reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>That's historian Deborah Blum. She says that everywhere across the country,

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<v Speaker 1>from Mabel's DC to New York all the way to

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco, industrial chemistry was becoming more and more a

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<v Speaker 1>part of everyday life for everyday Americans.

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<v Speaker 6>We're seeing the rise of industrial chemistry, and there's a

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<v Speaker 6>telluge of new chemical compounds created by industries in the

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<v Speaker 6>United States, which is, you know, one of the countries

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<v Speaker 6>that really takes the forefront of the industrial manufacturing age chemistry,

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<v Speaker 6>figuring out that they can take all of these poisonous

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<v Speaker 6>substances that occur in nature and recreate the mental.

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<v Speaker 1>Laboratory arsenic mercury, chloroform, carbolic acid. I would go on,

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<v Speaker 1>but the last time I had a close encounter with

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<v Speaker 1>a beaker, I was watching the Muppets. No no, no, no, Beaker.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you never to talk to me like that,

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<v Speaker 1>because I can't understand it. That's a little shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to my eighties kids out there. Point is, products of

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<v Speaker 1>rapidly advancing chemistry were everywhere in pharmacies, doctors' offices, grocery stores, kitchens,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course also in bars, where speakeasy back rooms

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<v Speaker 1>were starting to look a lot more like chemistry labs.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason classy clubs were hiring actual chemists to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that the illegal liquor they were serving to high

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<v Speaker 1>end customers wasn't toxic and was only going to fuck

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<v Speaker 1>you up the right way. This is the prohibition, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the razzle dazzle of the flappers under the electric lights,

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<v Speaker 1>where the big band served up bouncy rhythms and the

0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:13.960
<v Speaker 1>bartenders served up potent cocktails. At least that's the front room.

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<v Speaker 1>But the back room it was all chemistry.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember, clean and legal alcohol had all been poured into

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<v Speaker 1>the sewers at this point what was left could be dodgy.

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<v Speaker 1>So to keep their customers safe, top speakeasy managers would

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<v Speaker 1>turn to chemistry.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, I'm here to interview for the chemist position.

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<v Speaker 1>I require one dollars payment. Oh, wise guy, A, so

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<v Speaker 1>you want your patrons dead?

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<v Speaker 5>I'll take you to the bus.

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<v Speaker 1>But what if you were running a bar and couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>afford the high fees of a newly in demand chemical brainiac,

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<v Speaker 1>Or if you were a drinker who didn't have pockets

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<v Speaker 1>deep enough to order your cocktails in the main dining

0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.320
<v Speaker 1>room of the Cotton Club and plenty of New York

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhoods back alley liquor was flowing just as freely, But

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<v Speaker 1>no lab coated expert with a safety checklist was looking

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<v Speaker 1>out for you. As Deborah Blum says America's poorer drinkers

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<v Speaker 1>would rather overlook the dubious origins of their booze and

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<v Speaker 1>literally stomach the risk. People were seemingly so eager for

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<v Speaker 1>a drink that they just didn't care there was a

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<v Speaker 1>chance it could land them in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 6>Unless you're rich, you're drinking whatever you can get your

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<v Speaker 6>hands on. So one of the cocktails of the Bowery,

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<v Speaker 6>which is a really poor neighborhood in New York, was

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<v Speaker 6>called smoke, and that was fuel, alcohol and water.

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<v Speaker 1>You could get your smoke in the back of drug

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<v Speaker 1>stores or paint stores. I know the scene in Lower

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<v Speaker 1>Manhattan has always been a bit edgy, but even without

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<v Speaker 1>the spiky hair and the dog collars, this was grizzly stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>There was also the infamous ginger jake.

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<v Speaker 6>You see ginger Jake, which was another formula genda by

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<v Speaker 6>bliggers that actually mimics the symptoms of Parkinson's. Or you

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<v Speaker 6>see the cocktail called d Rail in which they were

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<v Speaker 6>siphoning off some of the industrial alcohols from the railroads

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<v Speaker 6>and serving it up in drinks.

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<v Speaker 1>These drinks could kill during one stretch over a few months.

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<v Speaker 1>Debts from Smoke averaged one a day. When prohibition agents

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<v Speaker 1>managed to track down the suppliers for the deadly cocktail,

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<v Speaker 1>they discovered the drinks were served straight from cans stenseled

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<v Speaker 1>with the word poison on them.

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<v Speaker 6>This acceptance of risk that came with prohibition at these

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<v Speaker 6>levels is kind of horrifying, but it was there, and

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<v Speaker 6>it was real.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that risk big spenders were paying to avoid pay

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<v Speaker 1>the cover charge to get into a big club. You

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<v Speaker 1>were betting the owner had paid a nerdy chemist to

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<v Speaker 1>make damn sure your gin and tonic was not a

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<v Speaker 1>gin intoxic. These back room chemists were clearly breaking the law,

0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:05.320
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of them actually saw themselves as humanitarians.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time they caught a dangerous tocsin and a gallon

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<v Speaker 1>of hooch and kept it out of a drinker's mouth, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what'd you get.

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<v Speaker 6>That under the seat?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you believe it? It's still half full. They had

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<v Speaker 1>done some good, and in part because they were so

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<v Speaker 1>successful at keeping the party going in New York City

0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:27.040
<v Speaker 1>and state officials started to ask themselves, why don't we

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<v Speaker 1>just stop pretending here?

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<v Speaker 4>New York repealed its version of the amendment in nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>twenty two, so from that point forward, New York officially

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<v Speaker 4>was not supporting prohibition.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, under the eighteenth Amendment, any state could just

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<v Speaker 1>stick their middle finger up to prohibition if they had

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<v Speaker 1>the votes to repeal it, which is exactly what New

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<v Speaker 1>York state lawmakers did. They weren't going to do any

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<v Speaker 1>cracking down. New York cops weren't going to be making

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<v Speaker 1>any arrest and even if they did, New York judges

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<v Speaker 1>weren't going to throw the book at any club owners.

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<v Speaker 1>Better a law or no. There was simply too much

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.680
<v Speaker 1>money in the liquor game. So in effect, New York

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<v Speaker 1>became a sanctuary city for American drinkers. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>were a chemist in the city breaking the law on

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<v Speaker 1>a daily basis, you could rest easy knowing that your

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<v Speaker 1>community had your back, not only that they were downright

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<v Speaker 1>grateful to you for saving them from ginger Jake and derail.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the cops, the mayor, and the governor were on

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<v Speaker 1>your side. And the good liquor it was still there

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<v Speaker 1>for the drinking if you had the right chemists in

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<v Speaker 1>your pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Bobby, just believe of worries on the whole move and.

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<v Speaker 6>World may go dry.

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<v Speaker 1>Her dad made as well.

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<v Speaker 6>As they left the old sales to the bootlegger.

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<v Speaker 1>Daughter down in Washington. When news reached the office of

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Justice that the Big Apple was flipping

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<v Speaker 1>on off prohibition, Mabel Walker Willebrant was you guessed it pissed.

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<v Speaker 1>A Sunday afternoon in Brooklyn, I can picture our pal

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandra Getler in his favorite living room chair, dressed in

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<v Speaker 1>a suit and tie. Of course, the number one song

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<v Speaker 1>from the most famous band in America, the Paul Whiteman Band,

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<v Speaker 1>is buzzing in the background. Gettler's smoking a stogie as

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<v Speaker 1>he scans baseball box scores from the morning paper, knowing

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<v Speaker 1>Hew he probably had some skin in the games too.

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<v Speaker 1>A bit of a gambler, Getler couldn't resist a juicy

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<v Speaker 1>over under, and he had a regular card game with

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<v Speaker 1>his pals. His other second home besides the lab was

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<v Speaker 1>the horse track. Getler was also a ruthlessly competitive bowler,

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<v Speaker 1>a spirit also brought to his work at Bellevue. When

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<v Speaker 1>a new mystery arrived at his doorstep. He couldn't stand

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the idea of a poisoner outwitting him and his sleuthing partner,

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Charles Norris. On this beautiful spring afternoon. Perhaps Alexander is

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<v Speaker 1>scribbling down his latest betting card, when all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden he gets a call from Norris. There's a new case,

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 1>and oh is al gonna love this one. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two, our Sherlock and Watson have been a very

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:36.199
<v Speaker 1>busy duo, solving all kinds of crimes, and many of

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<v Speaker 1>them having nothing to do with the hooch on the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>But each mystery Getler solves, he learns a little more

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<v Speaker 1>about the poisons permeating American life. On this day, when

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<v Speaker 1>Getler arrives at his lab, two dead bodies are waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for him. He scans the police report. Here are the facts.

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<v Speaker 1>Inside an apartment in Brooklyn, police had found a couple

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<v Speaker 1>in street clothes lying on the floor of their bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>Their faces were blue, their lips covered with blood. The couple,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the following day's New York Times, was quote

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<v Speaker 1>dead from poison. Gettler reviews the report. The police on

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the scene had suspected suicide, but there was no corroborating

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:19.239
<v Speaker 1>evidence of any kind in the apartment. Gettler takes one

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<v Speaker 1>look at the dead bodies and quickly suspects something else

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<v Speaker 1>is at play here a chemical substance that was now

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly everywhere and was frighteningly lethal. Cyanide, like mustard gas,

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<v Speaker 1>cyanide was used in World War One as a chemical

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<v Speaker 1>warfare agent. It had long been known as a dangerous poison,

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<v Speaker 1>but little did the public know it was also becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a killer in households. Fumigators used it to disinfect apartment buildings,

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<v Speaker 1>emitting gas that could, say, suddenly kill an unsuspecting couple

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<v Speaker 1>eating breakfast. Gettler's sure cyanide is the cause of death,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he hadn't found any signs that cyanide had

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<v Speaker 1>been ingested and the police had found no empty bottles

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 1>of cyanide anywhere in the apartment. But he checks back

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<v Speaker 1>with the police, and soon investigators realize that Getler was right.

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<v Speaker 1>Pest control folks had just spent an afternoon Spryan's cyanide

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>gas around the apartment. They realized the dead couple hadn't

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:26.119
<v Speaker 1>swallowed cyanide, they had inhaled it. Case closed, but Getler's

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>work isn't quite done.

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<v Speaker 6>Gettler goes on to write the fundamental paper on cyanide

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<v Speaker 6>and its toxicity and how we find it in a

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 6>body it's still cited today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, this guy is a true badass. It

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<v Speaker 1>was impossible for the newly invented science of toxicology to

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<v Speaker 1>keep up with the deluge of modern poisons, but Getler

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<v Speaker 1>was doing his damnedest, and the New York City Medical

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<v Speaker 1>Examiner's Office was beginning to earn nationwide respect for their

0:27:56.920 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>work uncovering the hidden poisons endangering public health, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing so with virtually no support from the government.

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<v Speaker 1>The office's staff under Norris was in fact smaller than

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<v Speaker 1>what it was under the New York Corner who preceded him.

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<v Speaker 1>Their office at Bellevue was still a ramshackle quote unquote

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>country club. All the labs new equipment was still paid

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 1>for by Norris himself. Norris and Getler were working around

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the clock, but they sure weren't making bootlegger chemist money.

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Gettler was making three thousand bucks a year, which today

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<v Speaker 1>would be equivalent to a fifty five thousand dollars salary

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>in Brooklyn. No wonder he lived with his in laws.

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<v Speaker 1>So as poisons in the air were becoming more sophisticated,

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<v Speaker 1>the case load of the Medical Examiner's Office was getting

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<v Speaker 1>bigger and in nineteen twenty two, one particular case caught

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<v Speaker 1>their eye, the case of Robert Doyle. Doyle was a

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<v Speaker 1>veteran of World War One, like the tanker turned bootlegger

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<v Speaker 1>George Cassidy, and like so many of them who came

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<v Speaker 1>back from Europe, Doyle found jobs were scarce in his

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<v Speaker 1>hometown Boston, so he left his wife and daughter and

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<v Speaker 1>came down to New York City, the biggest city in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, the thriving metropolis where it seemed like everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was making money, and he tried to get a job,

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<v Speaker 1>but no one hired Doyle. He didn't have George Cassidy's gregarious,

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<v Speaker 1>entrepreneurial spirit, I guess, or his smoky Mountain liquor hookups.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't have Alexander Getler's brains or his bustling Brooklyn

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<v Speaker 1>community to rely on. In New York, Doyle found himself

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<v Speaker 1>turned away from every job, be it bartender, garbage collection,

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<v Speaker 1>even cleaning the sewers, away from his loved ones, and

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<v Speaker 1>getting desperate. Doyle had reached for some chemical comfort to

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<v Speaker 1>drown his sorrows, buying liquor in an unfamiliar city. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know who to trust, He didn't know whose libations

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<v Speaker 1>might be toxic, but he bought a drink anyway. One night,

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<v Speaker 1>neighbors in and his boarding house heard shouts coming from

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<v Speaker 1>his locked room. Someone or something was killing Doyle. They

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<v Speaker 1>forced the door and rushed inside to help him, but

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<v Speaker 1>found him crawling on the floor, rubbing his eyes and moaning,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm blind, I can't see. First, they sent for a doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't have any answers, so they bundled Doyle

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<v Speaker 1>into a car and sent him to the hospital Bellevue.

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<v Speaker 1>Doyle was wheeled into the er. This would be the

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Gray's Anatomy episode where you'd hear the

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<v Speaker 1>heartbeat monitor beeping until it slowly fades and flatlines. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is the nineteen twenties. There's nothing quite that fancy yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Just Doyle didn't make it. When he died at Bellevue,

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<v Speaker 1>they moved him out of the line of patients waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for treatment and into the line of corpses waiting for analysis.

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<v Speaker 1>Analysis by Alexander Gettler. Now it was up to Getler

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<v Speaker 1>to determine who was behind this. For years, he had

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<v Speaker 1>worried home distillers would accidentally poison themselves with their moonshine.

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<v Speaker 1>But these deaths were stacking up in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't add up. Gettler knew about all the brain power

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<v Speaker 1>in advanced chemistry that was going into making industrial alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>drinkable and not kill you. In theory, the supply was

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<v Speaker 1>becoming safer, and yet the body count was only growing.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Doyle's death occurred as poison alcohol deaths rippled across

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<v Speaker 1>the country, from New York to Washington, d c. To Toledo, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>This was proof people like Robert Doyle weren't dying simply

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<v Speaker 1>because of their own reckless thirst for alcohol. No, these

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<v Speaker 1>people were dying from poisons, and their deaths, now in

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<v Speaker 1>the hundreds and very soon to be in the thousands,

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<v Speaker 1>were no accident. Next time on SNAFU.

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<v Speaker 4>Harry Doherty, the Attorney General who was the immediate boss

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<v Speaker 4>to Mabel Willebrandt, he was a a drunk and be corrupt.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the craziest stories here man like an incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>successful defense attorney becomes the biggest bootlegger ever.

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<v Speaker 4>The fact that there were only twenty six hundred prohibitionations

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<v Speaker 4>covering the entire Canadian border, of the Mexican border and

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<v Speaker 4>both coasts It's Ridiculous.

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