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Speaker 1: Adam Lefgo of TNT is with us.

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Speaker 2: He's also in a group chat of mine, a tennis

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Speaker 2: group chat of mine, which I don't really participate too much. Really,

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Speaker 2: my numbers on there's probably one you don't have saved.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those three or five that you don't recognize.

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Speaker 3: I've always wondered what it was like for the non

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Speaker 3: participators to be getting like two am texts about tennis

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Speaker 3: tournaments in Thailand, and I'm just like, they have to

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Speaker 3: be so annoyed these Tommy Paul takes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love blowers.

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Speaker 4: He had to get roped into this group text. How'd

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Speaker 4: you get roped into it?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 2: Mike Ryan is a very powerful human being, and he

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Speaker 2: just talked about it one day and made it sound

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Speaker 2: like the best group chat ever, and so I asked

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Speaker 2: to be a party.

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Speaker 4: He has a group chat about shitting, I mean everything

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Speaker 4: that he put me in a group chat about like

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Speaker 4: dads right Like I was about to have a kid,

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Speaker 4: and I realized I don't care about any of your kids.

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Speaker 3: And it felt really creepy to be getting all these

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Speaker 3: texts about like look at my one year old.

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Speaker 5: Daughter, and I'm like, dude, and I and then I

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Speaker 5: was like, how do I just leave a conversation with

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Speaker 5: these dads? Share it?

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Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm out, Yes, it's great, dada sphere.

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Speaker 1: So last year, there has nothing to do with that

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Speaker 2: Last year I saw a tweet it said I'm just

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Speaker 2: now realizing that Adam Lefgo and Jared Greenberg are different people,

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Speaker 2: and it had this sort of mind blown emoji and

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Speaker 2: I never confused you guys.

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Speaker 1: Ever, I'm two.

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Speaker 2: Last year at the All Star Game, I was at

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Speaker 2: the game or at the event whatever, Saturday, and this

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Speaker 2: was shortly after you, I think, did some glorilla on

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Speaker 2: the air. Yes, right, and so that kind of got

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Speaker 2: I walked up to Jared, knowing full well, he is

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Speaker 2: not the studio host. You were the studio host. You

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Speaker 2: were the one who did the glorilla, and I just

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Speaker 2: and he immediately went from that fake face you give

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Speaker 2: was like that was left go and he turned around

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Speaker 2: and like I didn't want to look at him again.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, no, I have done the thing

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Speaker 2: that everybody else, well a couple of people in the

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Speaker 1: Am I a jerk for that? Or do you get

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Speaker 1: that off it?

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Speaker 5: A few things.

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Speaker 3: Number one, because my wife is Nigeria and she reminds

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Speaker 3: me that a lot of white people do look alike,

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Speaker 3: even though he don't think we look alike. So that's

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Speaker 3: always helpful too. You gave me some PTSD. I was

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Speaker 3: in the sauna at my gym in Brooklyn and this

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Speaker 3: I was like, nah, bro, it's no, it's it's uh. Well,

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Speaker 3: I love Jared, He's awesome. But that glorilla thing is

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Speaker 3: also the reason that my son thinks when he sees TNT,

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Speaker 3: he says bowl Bowl because I did a bowl Bowl freestyle.

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Speaker 3: He my son also when he sees Shack says bowl

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Speaker 3: because that freestyle went like triple platinum in my house.

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Speaker 5: My son wants to listen to it all the time,

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Speaker 5: but not too money. Jared Greenberg's I also get the sun.

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Speaker 3: From weekend at Bernie's. But that guy's like older now,

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Speaker 3: so it's not the same thing.

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Speaker 1: I have to rewatch it. Okay, yes, yes, I see

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Speaker 2: I just felt like such a tide. I can never

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Speaker 2: I'm admitting this to you.

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Speaker 1: But no, I love it. Left left go.

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Speaker 4: I'm so happy for you because I turn on my television,

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Speaker 4: you're there. You're the studio host for the NCAA Tournament.

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Speaker 4: I've known you for a long time. It puts a

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Speaker 4: I got into this business wanting one thing, and that

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Speaker 4: And I wanted to try to create a show that

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Speaker 4: what I see on your face when you're doing this stuff,

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Speaker 4: whether it's tennis, whether it's the NCAA tournament, is a

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Speaker 4: guy who has achieved his goals. I know you're not

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Speaker 1: And is doing exactly what it is he wants to do.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like the first time that I filled in for

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Speaker 3: Ernie and there was like a clip where we showed

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Speaker 5: Man, that looks like me and Shaq had a baby.

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Speaker 3: And the clip went viral, and like I sometimes feel

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Speaker 3: that when I'm like in bed and like a great

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Speaker 3: insight clip comes up and an I'm on it and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, that was all like getting the host

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Speaker 3: inside really was the thing I always wanted, and since

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Speaker 3: I got to do it now, it's all like free cash, right.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, like like you're saying, there are those moments.

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Speaker 3: and for some reason, I don't see the legs.

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Speaker 5: I don't see the cameras. I just see all the.

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Speaker 3: Behind the scenes people and they're all like really paying attention,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, damn, I'm doing that thing.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing the thing. And that is a that's a

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Speaker 5: cool feeling. It's cool that you can recognize that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well yeah, I mean listen, I've experienced it.

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Speaker 1: I know it. I know what it feels like.

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Speaker 4: It's the greatest it's the greatest professional feeling in the world.

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Speaker 1: Because you would do that shit for free, would you not?

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Speaker 5: No? I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: That's that hell. No, it's so expensive.

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Speaker 5: What are you talking about for free?

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Speaker 3: If I was your boss, I'm playing that in negotiations.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, really, so he looks that happy?

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Speaker 4: He looks at he wanted this in the worst way

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Speaker 4: and he's arrived there, and that's a great feeling.

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Speaker 1: I thought you would do it for free. I'm shocked

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Speaker 3: Would say this if I if I like that question,

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Speaker 3: if you hit the lottery, would you still go to work?

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Speaker 5: And I would do that? But like bro, I would

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Speaker 1: It'd be freestyle wrapping for his life.

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Speaker 5: All right on the corner mere like Bowl Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Rahaps I took it too far? Sorry about that? Go

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Speaker 2: On that note, I'm trying to figure out which is

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Speaker 2: your favorite moment of the tournament so far, because to me,

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Speaker 2: it felt like when the Florida final boss turned into

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Speaker 2: a Nebraska final boss that you guys love that, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: That was I can't.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing about the NCAA tournament doesn't make sense,

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Speaker 3: Like Iowa like the nine seed. They're the team that

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Speaker 3: out rebounded Florida and then they go and out shoot Nebraska.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're and so none of it makes sense.

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Speaker 3: And it's as Jalen Rose as it's one shot, one kill,

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Speaker 3: so like anything can happen. I thought the Dylan Darlin

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Speaker 3: ending with Saint John's was an amazing ending. I think

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Speaker 5: I was like, Wow, what a Cinderella.

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Speaker 3: But I think my favorite moment right now is the

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Speaker 3: thirty seconds after the game when the coach is doing

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Speaker 3: a chance to throw a sweaty towel on my coach.

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Speaker 5: It's low key becoming my favorite thing.

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Speaker 3: And there was one that was really bad when Nebraska

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Speaker 3: the thing about sports I love is the awkward moments

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Speaker 3: because I've seen so many shots that I've seen so

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Speaker 5: That puts at towel on him. I think that's hilarious.

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Speaker 2: So, speaking of wet towels on Fred Hoiberg, yes, he

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Speaker 2: feel good tournament for Freddy won his first NCAA tournament

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Speaker 2: game they went on the little run whatever, and then

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Speaker 2: that happens, Like that's gonna weigh more than the first win, right,

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Speaker 2: that's gonna linger for a long.

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Speaker 5: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: No, I think because I think if it had been

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Speaker 3: the kid was still sitting on the bench, so.

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Speaker 1: The heck no, And like, yeah, but the head coach

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you just did. You got totans account right,

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Speaker 4: how many are out there? It's five, you know.

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Speaker 3: But I just think you the brask defense have been

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Speaker 3: hearing for like fifty years.

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Speaker 5: You're the only team that hasn't won. And then you

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Speaker 5: go to the sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 3: I think you're good, but there definitely are like Kansas

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Speaker 3: like that. None of that season feels good the way

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Speaker 3: that that ended. And then there's a few other teams.

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Speaker 3: I think you have these great seasons and when it

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Speaker 3: kind of collapses in the first weekend, it turns a

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Speaker 3: great season into a mediocre season because we only judge

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Speaker 3: it based on what happens.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: How excited are you for tonight because it's the rare

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Speaker 4: final four?

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Speaker 1: Before the Final four, I mean that East Region is loaded.

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Speaker 4: Saint John's Duke, Michigan State, Yukon a couple of games

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Speaker 5: I'm so excited to watch Rick Patino yell for two hours.

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Speaker 3: It's again like I like the weird parts, like the

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Speaker 3: Hurley mc cronin Yellfest was so funny to be like,

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Speaker 3: I just thought about the ref afterwards, just completely stressed

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Speaker 3: and exhausted. I'm very excited for Saint John's Duke. I

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Speaker 1: Shut a Marina. It's everyone else's blood. He sucks it

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Speaker 5: But I need Arizona to knock out Duke.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that was incredible.

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Speaker 3: Calib Parry was like, this is my team and my

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Speaker 5: It was good enough. It was good enough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the North Carolina gig is it's interesting because is

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Speaker 5: In an interesting time. But the jerseys are cool.

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Speaker 3: We've all been there. We ended a relationship that we

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Speaker 4: Now he's always checking you out. He is, He's always

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Speaker 4: When Sims left, you were at rock like kind of

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Speaker 3: I can. But yeah, man, it's that you know this,

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Speaker 3: there's doubt that comes in stages, Like I think once

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Speaker 3: you get to a certain level that you're not going

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Speaker 3: to have that anymore. But the real thing is is

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Speaker 3: if you can keep reinventing yourself or keep pushing into

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Speaker 3: a new if you just don't stop, you can outrun it.

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Speaker 5: But it definitely pops up all the time.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: It chases you, right, the industry chases you. But if

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Speaker 4: you keep working hard, you'll find opportunities.

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Speaker 3: Oh dude, doing the French Open like like like preparing

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Speaker 3: for that and like watching Tennis channel every day and

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Speaker 3: being like if I say the wrong word, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to get destroyed. When I was doing baseball and they're

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Speaker 3: like just a reminder it's home plate.

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Speaker 5: Not home base, and I'm like, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: And so there's there's those little moments when you aren't

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Speaker 4: When did you realize, though, that you didn't have to

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Speaker 4: be perfect even doing you know, even as a studio

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Speaker 4: realization here, Adam, you don't have to be perfect. You

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Speaker 4: can have some fun. You can laugh a little bit.

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Speaker 4: It's okay, it's fine.

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Speaker 3: What I would say is when I realized that I

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Speaker 3: don't need to carry the show that people tune in

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Speaker 3: for the other people, it can free you up.

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Speaker 5: Some people it's you go, well what about you? And

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Speaker 5: I mean, I take pride, but my mom's watching for me,

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Speaker 5: and maybe Stu Goots is watching for me.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but everybody else wants to hear what these guys

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Speaker 3: have to say. So just get the ball to that.

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Speaker 3: Your job is to Your job is to take off

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Speaker 3: the plane and land the plane and in between, if

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Speaker 3: you don't say anything, you're actually doing an amazing job, right,

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Speaker 3: So that takes a lot of pressure off of it.

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Speaker 1: I tune in for Jared Greenberg and check him out

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Speaker 1: tonight The Sweet sixteen. It ten yus. He's your studio host.

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Speaker 1: He's fantastic. I love him. I'm happy for him, and

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Speaker 1: we appreciate your time. Sir.

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Speaker 4: Next time we have you on, I just want to

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Speaker 4: do twenty minutes on SIMS.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 4: Just twenty minutes SIMS stories, your top five SIMS stories.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll bring like different types of SIMS stories, disgusting, funny,

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Speaker 3: it'll be good.

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Speaker 5: Look.

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Speaker 1: I see him with the Super Bowl. He looks at me.

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Speaker 1: I look at him. I'm not sizing him up. He's

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Speaker 1: sizing me up.

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Speaker 4: And then he turns to me and he says, to

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Speaker 4: god's you get a comment on how good I fucking look?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, what