1 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: What's up? 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: Everybody? 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory and share 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: in the room, joined by Tyler Stafford and a very 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: special guest, one of the very many new Astros pitchers 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: acquired this offseason, Mike Burrows. Lucky enough to have him 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: join us from Connecticut, where it is very cold, not 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: as cold as it is, not as nothing you'll experience 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: here in Houston as it's seventy degrees on this January day. Mike, 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: how are you doing? What have the last few weeks 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: been like? Is this kind of whirlwind has come to 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: an end and you've been able to settle down a 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: little bit and know what the future holds for you. 14 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely a whirlwind of a day, but holidays rolled around, 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: got time with family, and yeah, we're just kind of 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 3: here now, so getting ready for spring training at a 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: month left. 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 4: There you go, What does it look like when when 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 4: a trade goes through? I mean, what all is going 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 4: through your head? Who's calling you? What? What does that 21 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 4: look like for that first hour after you find out? 22 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I found out through fantasy football group chat with 23 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: a bunch of guys, so it's, uh, it was just 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 3: kind of one of those you know, a little bit 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: of a shock, don't know if it's true. You're looking 26 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: at Twitter, and then agent calls says, sources are confirming 27 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: it's true, and then you go through the whole medical 28 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: review time period before you officially get called that it's 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: uh that it's done. 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 4: So you're in your fantasy football group chat is just 31 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 4: going off of hey you got traded. 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. 33 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: It was just kind of like you know, Burrows of Houston, 34 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: Houston question mark and. 35 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was I mean just it was such a 36 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: random thing. 37 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: I heard murmurs through you know, winter meetings, but those 38 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: kind of settled down. All I'm thinking about is Christmas, 39 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: getting Christmas shop and done, and just yeah, randomly get 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: a text like that. It's just kind of like the 41 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: start of my day. Pretty much. 42 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 4: That's the first successful trade that I've seen go through 43 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: in a fantasy football group chat. I can't get anybody 44 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 4: to trade with me in my league, So congrats on that, thanks. 45 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 46 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: Is it a baseball fantasy league or is it a 47 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: kind of guys from home fantasy league? 48 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: It was it was guys that are in my agency. 49 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so they so they maybe they really had 50 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: a kind of vested interest in what was going on, 51 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: just knowing that they've probably been through too. I'm sure 52 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: there's some guys in that group that had been traded to. 53 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: Did you ask them for advice at all? Or was 54 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: it just kind of more you know, you need to 55 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: figure out if this is true first and foremost. 56 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: No, no advice. I mean it's the same same game, 57 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: just a new team. 58 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: So I mean, I'm sure if I have questions, I 59 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 3: got a lot of guys I could reach out to. 60 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: But I think if I got questions, they'd probably just 61 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: reach out to the new organization. 62 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: There you go, speaking of that, since you have since 63 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: like the Holladays have settled down and everything, how many 64 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: people have you reached out to with the Astros? Who 65 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: has reached out to you and kind of what have 66 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: been your early impressions of what you've heard from either 67 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: the pitching guys, either from maybe some of your new teammates, 68 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: whether you've talked to Joe, kind of what have you 69 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: heard from the Astros organization? 70 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, talk to Dana, Joe, Ethan, Josh, you know, as 71 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 3: far as Josh and Ethan just. 72 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: Kind of the pitching side. 73 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 3: Talking about where I'm at, what I've been doing stuff 74 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: like that, Dana and Joe. It's like just excited, excited 75 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: to have me and you know, ready to go pitch 76 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: in October. So that's kind of been where the conversations 77 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: were and just kind of, you know, just exciting conversations, 78 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: stuff that you want to hear, stuff that gets you going, 79 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 3: gets you ready for the for twenty twenty six. 80 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 4: You you know, grew up in the connecticutor you were 81 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 4: committed to Yukon out of high school? Correct? Yeah, did 82 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 4: you grow up Yukon fan? Was that a baseball team 83 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: that you followed a lot? 84 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: So? 85 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: I actually I grew up watching Springer play, That's what 86 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask. 87 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, during those times, so those were very exciting years 88 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: for the baseball program. I grew up a Yukon basketball fan, 89 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: so yeah, I mean it was I was definitely a 90 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: Yukon fan. I loved the conference that they were in 91 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 3: at the time. Everything was South except for our home games, 92 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: so when I was home, it was cold, it was 93 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: it was you know, I was close to close to home, 94 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: close enough for people to come watch. And then when 95 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: who were not there, we're South. 96 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 4: What what was Springer like in college out there? Just 97 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: ripping dangers out there. What what that look like? 98 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was impressive. They had a really good team. 99 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 3: I think Barnes was on that team. Nick im ed 100 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: they had they had some dudes on that team. Yeah, 101 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: it was, it was, it was. It was a really 102 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 3: good team. So it was fun to watch, and yeah, 103 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: it was. It was what made me kind of want 104 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 3: to go there. 105 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: It was years after that I committed. So, yeah, do. 106 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: You have a core Yukon basketball memory from you from 107 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: your childhood? And obviously they were They've been good forever, 108 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: so I imagine had to see some some pretty iconic 109 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: things as a Yukon basketball fan. 110 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't. Yeah, I wasn't like a diehard. 111 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: I went to some games, but Kemda's run with Yukon 112 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 3: was like probably the most exciting for me. That's some 113 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: of the stuff that I remember most. And then Shabaz 114 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: coming in shortly after that and stuff like that. 115 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean there's a lot of exciting moments. 116 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: I love that they just went back to back, you know, yeah, 117 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: just kind of more so like that's that's when I 118 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 3: started really liking Yukon, or that's what dream me to 119 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 3: Yukon was the basketball program I covered. 120 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 4: I went to Texas A and M and worked at 121 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 4: the newspaper there and I covered the women's basketball team, 122 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 4: and every year, you know, for every women's basketball team 123 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 4: at the time, it was just how long will the 124 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 4: season last until you have to play the Yukon ladies, 125 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 4: And so that was that was a lot of fun 126 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: as well. So you got it. You got a lot 127 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,559 Speaker 4: of dominance over there. 128 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's let's go through a little bit of 129 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: kind of how your career has how your professional career 130 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: has evolved a little bit. You know, you had TJ 131 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: twenty three, correct, correct, Yeah, so last year was maybe 132 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: your first like fully healthy year coming back off of 133 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: Tommy John. How'd you feel last year and how do 134 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: you feel like that? You know, everyone kind of looks 135 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: at Tommy John. They put the twelve to fourteen the 136 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: sixteen month timeline on it, and then I think there's 137 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: this expectation. I don't know if it's from fans, I 138 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: don't know if it's just from people that are conditioned 139 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: to seeing twelve to sixteen months and then they just 140 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: expect pitchers after that timeframe to be raring back, just 141 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: as they were pre surgery. When I think we've all 142 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: come to realize that that's not the case. You probably need, 143 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, another eight to ten months of just throwing 144 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: of getting back into routine before you really feel like yourself. 145 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: Did you have that? Is that kind of how it 146 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: went for you? And kind of how was last season? 147 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: Kind of being in that year out removed from TJ, 148 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: how was that for you? 149 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's true. 150 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: There's definitely a long period of time where you're not 151 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: You're back, but you don't feel like yourself. So I 152 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: think one of the harder parts was like coming off 153 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: of TJ and going right into the second half of 154 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: a season and just trying to figure it out and 155 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 3: get back into get back into the swing of everything 156 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: because you felt so far removed for so long, and 157 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: you know, then you're just kind of back in it 158 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: so quick. And then, I mean I really didn't feel 159 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: like myself again until probably June of last year, and 160 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: then things started to really kind of kind of roll 161 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: and started to get some stuff back mechanically, started to 162 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: feel like just normal again, like ill, and there was 163 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: no stiffening in that area anymore. 164 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: There was. It was just started to loosen up. Again, 165 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: you started to really feel like yourself. And I think 166 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: there's a lot of guys that feel that way that. 167 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: Kind of go through the through that that second half 168 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: of TJ because it's a lot such a long point 169 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: to get back, but there's more that comes after that, 170 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: just to get back to a normal state of where 171 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: you were before. 172 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 4: I think Astro's fans watched you get back to normal 173 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 4: your your third start back. I think that was the 174 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 4: game that you kind of figured it out. Five and 175 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 4: a third, no run, six strikeouts. Is that is that 176 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 4: when you were starting to feel kind of back to yourself. 177 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I start, Yeah, I mean I started to feel 178 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: better around that time, and that it took me. 179 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: Two starts prior to get to that. 180 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 3: I was I had to figure some things out in 181 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: those first couple of starts. I kind of, you know, 182 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: first one, you know, maybe maybe a little unlucky. Second 183 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 3: one just kind of got carved in. So it was 184 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 3: like I gotta figuregured it out. And I ended up 185 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: figuring out that one against the Astros. 186 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 4: Mm hmm, yeah, you go ahead, Taylor. 187 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, you never know in this game with 188 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: like butterfly effect, and you never know if like they 189 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: were watching you that start and just like, oh, man, 190 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: like this kid, like he's got something like we may 191 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: need to keep our eyes on him as a as 192 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: a trade target, as somebody that we'd want to maybe 193 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: ask about after the season. So it's always funny to 194 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: know how those things, how those things work. If whether 195 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: you pitching well against the Astros in front of you. 196 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: Dana was on that road trip. I remember you pitching 197 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: it well in front of all those guys, and he 198 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: was like, oh, like, let's let's keep our eye on him. 199 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Maybe. 200 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 4: I mean the Astros also missed the playoffs by one game, 201 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 4: so I think we can blame you personally for the 202 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 4: Astros missing that. 203 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: So last year your first full you debuted in twenty 204 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: four through three innings in the big leagues. But so 205 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: last year, for all intents and purposes, was your first 206 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: almost full year in a big through about ninety ninety 207 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: five innings. What was the biggest thing you took away 208 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: from having as close to a full season as you've 209 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: had in the big leagues? Just the level of competition, 210 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: the adjustments that are made day in and day out 211 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: from start to start. I guess what were some of 212 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: the biggest things you took away from last year as 213 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: your first real taste of big league life. 214 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, bad ones come, you just need to 215 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 3: pile up the good ones. 216 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, there were. There were definitely speed bumps. 217 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 3: There are things that you know happened throughout it, But 218 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: it was just kind of like staying level headed, moving 219 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: through it, continuing figuring out why it went wrong, and 220 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 3: realizing that pitchability was my best friend. Pitching off of fat, 221 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 3: off my fastball, make sure the fastball is being located. 222 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: Like it's really hard to walk into a start and 223 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: just be like, this isn't here, So you need to 224 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 3: have it. You need to have everything when you go 225 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: out there, regardless of how you feel. So figuring out 226 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: different ways to lock in certain things, you know, because 227 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 3: there's some days where something doesn't feel right, but you know, 228 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: what's my way of getting getting to a better spot 229 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 3: with that pitch or or you know whatever it may be. 230 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: The amount of deception that that plays into the pitching, 231 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 3: as well as metrics and and even just pitching, there's 232 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: just a lot that goes into it, more so than 233 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: or more more than most people would think. So just 234 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 3: making my way through the speed bumps and figuring out, 235 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 3: you know, why the good ones were good and why 236 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: the bad ones were bad. 237 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: Looks like you added the sinker in July. Is that 238 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 4: a pitch that you'd always had or did you learn 239 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 4: that last year? 240 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 3: I threw everything in high school, and then when I 241 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: got into pro ball, I did the same thing. 242 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 2: Covid hit and I just decided, let's work backwards. 243 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 3: Let's make a couple of pitches really really good. Ran 244 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: with a for scene with ride and uh, you know, 245 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 3: a curb, and just kept adding from there year to year, 246 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: and now we're back to adding the two scene back again, 247 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 3: because I just think as a starter, I think most 248 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 3: guys are going towards the two fastball approach, and you know, 249 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: I figured, why don't why not try it? So I 250 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: actually threw it against Arizona just as a let's just 251 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 3: throw it, let's go, let's. 252 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: Use in the game. What better opportunity than in games. 253 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 3: So worked on a little bit up to that point, 254 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: but just decided to throw it, like, you know, what's 255 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: the worst that could happen? You know, it gets hit, Okay, 256 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: It's just you know, using game I think was was 257 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: the best thing for me, and just saying whatever, I 258 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: don't need an offseason for it. 259 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: Six scoreless innings of three hit ball against the Dbacks 260 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: when you threw it, So I guess it worked out 261 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, you will have a full off season 262 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: to work on it this time around, because I'm sure 263 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: you saw, and I'm sure Dana and Joe of and 264 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: Ethan and Josh have maybe told you that, you know, 265 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: Dana TODs on the media zoom call that they do 266 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: want to increase your two or usage. He brought up 267 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: Hunter Brown as as somebody that they have done this with. 268 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: Obviously it worked very well for him, as we have 269 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: seen the last year and a half. When you hear that, 270 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: is that something that now going into catch play going 271 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: into you know, as you start ramping up before you 272 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: get to West Palm Beach, do you make a more 273 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: concentrated effort to throw the sinker more or is it 274 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: just you're gonna kind of do what you normally do 275 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: and then get to camp and then maybe let the 276 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: Astros guys kind of maybe give you a more detailed 277 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: account of kind of how they want you. 278 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 2: To do this a little bit of both. 279 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: So, I mean, I'm throwing it the way I've been 280 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: throwing it for you know, six months, seven months now, 281 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: so I'm going to continue. 282 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: To throw it that way. 283 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: But if there's tweaks that need to be made during spring, 284 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: maybe to the to the grip or maybe just a 285 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: queue or a you know, a different type of feel 286 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 3: for it, you know, I think it's going to be 287 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: more minor adjustments than anything, you know, a major reworking 288 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: of it. So you know, continue to throw it the 289 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 3: way I do and let them make a slight adjustment 290 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 3: on it maybe come spring. 291 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 4: Have you always had the pitch ability that you have 292 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 4: with the changeup, because I feel like a lot of 293 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 4: times that's kind of the last pitch for pitchers to 294 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 4: really figure out. It's a it's a really tough pitch 295 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 4: to throw. You throw it a ton and have a 296 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 4: lot of success with it. What you know, walk us 297 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 4: through just that that pitch. What's the grip you're rolling with? Why? 298 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: Why does it work so well for you? 299 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a vulcan change. Back in twenty one, I 300 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: was just throwing fastball, curveball, and I was doing well. 301 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: I didn't feel like I need to throw another pitch. 302 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: But you know, obviously come higher levels you're gonna need 303 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 3: more pitches unless you just unless I want the reliever route, 304 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: but I wanted to be a starter, so change up 305 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: was the first thing I tried to add back. But 306 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: I was just riding it. I was throwing it like 307 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: a just a slow fast ball. So the vulcan helped 308 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: me kill spin and kill vert and then just kind 309 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: of ran with it from there. Just maybe slight adjustments, 310 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 3: but ever since then, just throwing it both sides, both 311 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 3: sides of the play, trying to throw it to both hitters, 312 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: trying to, you know, just throw it in awkward situations, 313 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: three two counts, brunners on bass, stuff like that. 314 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: You don't see a ton of right on right change 315 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: ups unless it's a really really good change up. I guess, 316 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: winning your mind, did you get the confidence to be, like, 317 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: you know what, this doesn't just need to be a 318 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: pitch against lefties, Like I can go right on right, 319 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: Like I feel enough confidence in this pitch and I 320 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: can throw it in any count against any hit or 321 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: no matter what side of the plate they're on. 322 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's just throwing it to righties, you know. 323 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 3: I think probably credit to my catchers and pitching coaches 324 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: back then just make me throw it in those situations 325 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: against righty's and becoming comfortable with it. 326 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: It's yeah, once I realized. 327 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 3: Like I can get swinging miss on both sides with it, 328 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 3: you know, that becomes a lot a lot more of 329 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: a weapon rather than it being an exclusive lefty pitch 330 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: or something like that. 331 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 4: You struck out ninety seven guys last year. Do you 332 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: know how many you got on the change up? 333 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: Probably have fifty? 334 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, fifty strikeouts on the change up. I mean that's 335 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 4: a that's a good pitch for sure. 336 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were just talking about, you know, implementing more 337 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: the two seam, implementing more of the sinker. I'm sure 338 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: as you looked at the results against your four seamer 339 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: last year, probably not what you envision you. That's probably 340 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: a pitch that it's probably some results you weren't a 341 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: little bit better against the fourceamer. How much do you 342 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: think introducing the two scene can help that? Just giving 343 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: guys different they're not selling out for the riding fastball, 344 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: like giving guys a different look. How much do you 345 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: think that can make? Those two things can go hand 346 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: in hand of maybe you adding the sinker and then 347 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: the forour seamer getting some better results for you. 348 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely, that's that was one of the bigger 349 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 3: reasons to add it was because the four seam was 350 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 3: just kind of I mean, it was getting smoked more 351 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 3: times than not from from how it felt to me. 352 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 3: You know, it's the big leagues, like these guys can hit, 353 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 3: you know, they're they're really good players. So I think 354 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 3: just adding that second shape with the fastball really helped them, 355 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: you know, kind of be a little off balance going 356 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: into an at bat rather than selling out to a 357 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: heater and maybe a certain counter seeing that kind of 358 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 3: spin and selling out to it. And so I mean, 359 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 3: I think it definitely helps definitely with the rightis too. 360 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 3: I think my righty splits have always been a little worse. 361 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: That's why I added the slier. That's why I'm now 362 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: adding the two seams to neutralized righties. Curveball change up 363 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: has always been good to lefties for the most part. 364 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: So it really does sound like we're retelling the Hunter 365 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: Brown story from two years ago, because this was everything 366 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: that was plaguing Hunter right like just right he's were 367 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: killing him before. SEMO was not performing as it should 368 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: and the and the all speed stuff was actually pretty 369 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: good and all it took was just adding that one 370 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: pitch and now he's kind of at the top of 371 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: the sport. What I guess from Afar, I don't know 372 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: how much you've gotten to watch him, but just what 373 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: is it if you have gotten to watch him a 374 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: little bit, what has it been like to maybe watch 375 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: his resurgence, And how do you feel about now being 376 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: on his team pitching behind him in a rotation? 377 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's definitely exciting to your point, like understanding 378 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: that there's some similarities. 379 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of things that I could 380 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: learn just by talking to him. 381 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: So you know, I'm definitely excited to be in the 382 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: same rotationism and just kind of see what worked for him, 383 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 3: what what you know made him excel especially last year. 384 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, it's it's definitely a great opportunity 385 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: to be with a guy like that, you know. 386 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: Uh. 387 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 4: I remember in a in a psychology class I took 388 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 4: in college, they went over the most stressful things that 389 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 4: can happen in life, and it was like, you know, 390 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 4: relationship change, getting married, changing jobs, and moving uh, and 391 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 4: I feel like you're just hitting them all and like 392 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 4: in a month, how are you How are you managing 393 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: all of all of these things all at once. It's 394 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 4: a big year for you. 395 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big year. 396 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, getting married. I don't feel like really 397 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 3: changed much with me and my now wife. But it's 398 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: you know, it's it's it's just a blessing really, It's 399 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 3: it's something that you know, we talked about the the 400 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 3: trade and stuff and you know, just going over like yeah, 401 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: like God puts you an uncomfortable scenarios for a reason 402 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: at times. So it's like it's it's a bit uncomfortable 403 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 3: because I have to relearn a whole new organization. I 404 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 3: have to get to meet new guys, and but that's 405 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: also a blessing itself, to meet new guys and and 406 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: start new with and fresh with the new organization, you know, 407 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 3: because everything happens for a reason. 408 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: So I just got I believe in that I. 409 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: Could have probably looked this up beforehand, and I probably 410 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: should have. But have you played with anyone that's in 411 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: the Astros system or was it in the big league 412 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: within the big leagues with them last year? 413 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 414 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: Oh so you're you're coming in like completely brand new? 415 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 416 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: Right? Is that Is that daunting for you? Do you 417 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: like it that way? 418 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 2: No, it's I mean nothing to me. 419 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 3: Maybe when I was younger it'd be a little more daunting, 420 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 3: but I kind of found who I am by now 421 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 3: twenty six and a little more comfortable with where I'm at, 422 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,959 Speaker 3: where I'm at in my career and you know, understanding 423 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 3: who I am, and yeah, that's like, I'm not going 424 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: to change who I am and walk in and meet everybody, 425 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: and that's going to be that, you know, and figure 426 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: out who everybody is, figure out how everything's operating there, 427 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: and it shouldn't take too long. 428 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: You know. 429 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: I feel obligated to ask you this from a from 430 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: an asher's perspective, because we can tie these two things 431 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: in pretty UH seamlessly. But Brent Strom was on staff 432 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh last season. Obviously Strom He's work in Houston 433 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: has still is still resonating. Josh Miller is one of 434 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: his UH proteges. Bill Murphy, the new pitching coach in Pittsburgh, 435 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: one of UH Strami's proteges. Well, what was it like 436 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: working with Strami? He's a he's a hoot man. I 437 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: love talking to him. I love h I love being 438 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: around Stroman. What was it like with him, maybe with 439 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: some lessons you learned from from working with Brent Strong. 440 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Strawmy is great. Strawmy held me a lot 441 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 3: with uh with my delivery. I was kind of I 442 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: was stepping a lot towards the left handed hitter early 443 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 3: on in the air during spring training, and he was 444 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 3: like very at him. He's like, dude, you need to 445 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: step in line, like and everything's going to fix itself. 446 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: You need to maybe even step a little crossfire. It's 447 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: going to fix itself. And it took me a few months, 448 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 3: but we eventually got there. And you know, just working 449 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 3: with him, talking to him, going over going over video, 450 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: just looking at stuff. But he, yeah, he was great. 451 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: I love Strawmy strom He's a little more old school 452 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: than a lot of these guys now, but you know 453 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: that it's it's still timeless stuff, you know. And he 454 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 3: helped me a lot with with with my throw and 455 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: got me where I needed to be. 456 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 4: Obviously, you know, every team goes into every season with 457 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 4: expectations of success. You know, everybody starts oh and oh, 458 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 4: and you've you've got the season in front of you. 459 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 4: But I would imagine there's a little difference between you know, 460 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 4: a Pirates team that's been rebuilding versus an Astros team 461 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 4: that well now has missed the playoffs for the first 462 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 4: time in about a decade. But you know, is there 463 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 4: is there any difference in mentality of being on a 464 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 4: team that has expectations of, you know, we expect to 465 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 4: be in the playoffs, not just a hope to be there. 466 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 4: Do you see yourself having any sort of difference in 467 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 4: how you approach the game or how you approach you know, 468 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 4: being on a team with with those expectations. 469 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I mean, if you talk to. 470 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: The guys in Pittsburgh like we expected to win, you know, 471 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 3: like that's that's what you that's what you go out 472 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: there to do. So I mean it's just you know 473 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: a matter of Okay, the results didn't happen, but you know, 474 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: the mindset was still there, and I don't think anything 475 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 3: like that will will change. It's definitely it's different in 476 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 3: you know, maybe a fan base talking about their team 477 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: or looking at their team like, you know, the Houston's 478 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 3: gonna expect to make the playoffs fan base wise, and 479 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh might just be hopeful or something like that. But 480 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: as far as the players go, we expected to win, 481 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: we wanted to win, we were there to win, so 482 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: you know, those results just didn't shake out. But I 483 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,479 Speaker 3: don't think, Yeah, I think the mindset's the same for 484 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 3: a lot of players, regardless of you know, you know, 485 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 3: looking at your record, and I don't think anybody's going 486 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 3: out there just. 487 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: Like, oh man, we're not going to win. But yeah, 488 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: I don't think anything for me is going to change. 489 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, to put a on your Pittsburgh days. For those 490 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: of us not blessed to have the sort of seat 491 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: that you had to watch Paul Schemes every fifth day, 492 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: can you just describe what it's like to watch him 493 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: from the best seat in the house do what he 494 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: does every fifth day. 495 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's special. 496 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 3: I think what's better is the four days leading up 497 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: to it, getting to see who he is before he 498 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: gets to that fifth day. And everybody sees him on 499 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 3: his fifth day, but there's four days leading up. 500 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: Like he works very very hard. 501 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: He's very routine based, and it's nothing that that shakes 502 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 3: his routine. So it's like, I mean, that's that's how 503 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 3: you get to that fifth day. That's how you dominate, 504 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 3: is you know, making sure that you're hitting every step 505 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 3: you need to get to that fifth day. But watching 506 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: him pitch, it's yeah, specially he's really getting That's. 507 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: The understatement of the century. As to kind of close 508 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: it out here, Mike, we told you we'd keep you 509 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: for about twenty minutes, and we're all over time. But 510 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: to close it out a little bit, just as you 511 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: do get ready to go to West Palm Beach and 512 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: get to spring training. I guess what excites you the 513 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: most about joining this ASTRAS organization? Joining the team, as 514 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: Tyler said, is has a ton of expectations on it 515 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: every year, you know, believes it is a championship contender 516 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: every time it gets to West Palm Beach. What excites 517 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: you the most about about this opportunity and what would 518 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: you want fans to maybe know about you If this 519 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: is the first time they're hearing your voice, seeing your face, 520 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: what would you like them to know about what you're 521 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: going to bring to this organization when you report in February. 522 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope, you know. I just want to meet 523 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: their expectations. 524 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 3: I want to win with this team, and I'm just 525 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: excited to be a part of it, you know, and 526 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 3: go out there every fifth day and help a team win. 527 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 4: I have a very important question, and it is what 528 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 4: what is the beard routine? Because I've watched the Ashes 529 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 4: for a long time and you're you're already on the 530 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 4: Mount rush More up there with kaykel On on Astros beers. 531 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 4: What is going on? 532 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 533 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 3: There really isn't I I'm trying to grow it out 534 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 3: right now. I'm trying to get at a higher line. 535 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 3: But I got a haircut tomorrow. You guys miss me, 536 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: or you guys got me a day before I get 537 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 3: this thing cut. I'm kind of shaggy right now, but 538 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 3: there's there's nothing crazy to it. It's just like getting 539 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 3: rid of, you know, loose hairs and keeping it, keeping 540 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 3: it looking maintained. 541 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 4: Look, I've also got the red going. But I can 542 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 4: only handle this. It does not look nearly as good 543 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 4: if I if I grow it out. So you got 544 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: a lot to uh to uphold over here for sure, 545 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: and the beer. 546 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: Got expectations there. 547 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're already on a mount Rushmore of the Astros. 548 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: No pressure, It's just it's you, Dallas Kyke and Evan Gaddis. 549 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 4: I was gonna say Gaddis too. That's that's the third 550 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 4: one I could think of. 551 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: On a mount rushmore of beards. Mike, this was fun. 552 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: We really appreciate you taking some time in the off 553 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: season to to introduce yourself to the fan base, to 554 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: talk to us and kind of break down what has 555 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: been a hectic a couple of months for you. Hopefully 556 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: January is a lot calmer. Hopefully you get to settle 557 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: down a little bit before getting to West Palm Beach 558 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: in February. So thank you. This was a lot of 559 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: fun for everyone listening. 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