Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor halfy how I'm Joe,
Speaker 1: I'm Serena, and today we are doing something very different
Speaker 1: because a friend of ours, pilot Pete, is coming on.
Speaker 2: What we are gonna do is we watched his first
Speaker 2: episode as of being the Bachelor, and we're going to
Speaker 2: recap that episode because why not. We don't have anything
Speaker 2: else to do it it's gonna be fun. But before
Speaker 2: we do, we have some a pretty big announcement. I
Speaker 2: was kind of shocked when I saw it. I saw
Speaker 2: it on Twitter. Rob Mills tweeted it that the Golden
Speaker 2: Bachelorette is Joan from Gary season, which is the only season.
Speaker 3: It does make it really easy when it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: Joan from the Golden Bachelor. Because there's only been one
Speaker 3: season of the Golden bacheler it's like very easy to
Speaker 3: keep track of contestants. There's only been one season for now.
Speaker 2: But talk to us in a few years and it's
Speaker 2: gonna be not as easy. So what do you think
Speaker 2: about Joe?
Speaker 4: I think it's great.
Speaker 3: Honestly, she would have been in like some of the
Speaker 3: people that I would assume they were considering for Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 3: I mean, she's ridiculously beautiful. She has you know, she's
Speaker 3: lost her husband. I know her and Gary connected on that.
Speaker 3: So we did learn a lot about her and her
Speaker 3: story despite the fact that she left in like episode three,
Speaker 3: which was really early on in the season. But I
Speaker 3: feel like she did make such an impact And she
Speaker 3: left because her daughter was struggling with her mental health
Speaker 3: after having a baby, and she went to support her daughter.
Speaker 3: So I think that really touched a lot of the
Speaker 3: viewers with that story, and like she's a mom, you know,
Speaker 3: and she talks about taking care of her kids, taking
Speaker 3: care of her parents that like in between eras, so like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just feel like she's someone that,
Speaker 3: like I feel like I know a lot about considering
Speaker 3: she was only in three episodes. Yeah, Like usually I
Speaker 3: would be like, no, she went home with three, like
Speaker 3: there's there's no way, But like you did really get
Speaker 3: to know her from like her one on one all
Speaker 3: the way to the way until All Slash finale.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean that's fair. After listening to you talk,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, you know all that. That
Speaker 2: is actually a lot to know. I think Gary would
Speaker 2: have chosen her.
Speaker 3: You said that before I thought she was.
Speaker 2: Like the heavy favorite. Just when we talked to Gary
Speaker 2: the first time, just him defining the woman that he
Speaker 2: is into, it seemed like she checked all those boxes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's she makes sense because just you know, like she's attractive.
Speaker 2: I see a lot of men in their late sixties
Speaker 2: and seventies that would like love to date her, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, said she's beautiful, Like yeah.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like when those guys were in their teens,
Speaker 2: like that was the girl that was all over Sports
Speaker 2: Illustrated and was like the model, was like the blonde here,
Speaker 2: blue eyes woman.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I totally agree.
Speaker 2: So I see a lot of guys going crazy for her. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's interesting. I wonder I wonder after Gary split if
Speaker 2: he ever reached back out to Joan.
Speaker 4: I've thought about that after the divorce.
Speaker 3: I've wondered if he's gone and DMed any of the
Speaker 3: women from his season and been like, hey, you want
Speaker 3: to try again?
Speaker 2: I mean why not?
Speaker 3: I mean why not? But apparently it wasn't Joan. Unless
Speaker 3: you know, Gary decides to roll up Night one and
Speaker 3: be a contestant this time around.
Speaker 2: How many guys do you think they're going to be
Speaker 2: able to get?
Speaker 4: I mean, I think a full cast, you know, like.
Speaker 2: What, I don't know what was the full cast for I.
Speaker 3: Want to say it was around twenty five, twenty something, Yeah,
Speaker 3: around like mid twenties.
Speaker 2: Now what do we think Jones type is?
Speaker 3: Hmmm? See, Gary and Joan were kind of giving like
Speaker 3: siblings or dating. You know that that thing where it's
Speaker 3: like are they siblings or are they dating? Because I
Speaker 3: kind of look alike. I could see her being into
Speaker 3: like a similar type to Gary, like tall blonde.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, wow, Yeah, both Golden Leads are Golden are
Speaker 2: actually Golden.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if that's a coincidence or not,
Speaker 3: but like it really does look great in the promost.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but they put them the.
Speaker 3: Back side by side. They're like really like the man
Speaker 3: in the male and female version of each other in
Speaker 3: a way.
Speaker 2: Wow, siblings are dating? Yeah, definitely, I definitely get that.
Speaker 2: They but yeah, she and she had left because her
Speaker 2: daughter really needed her and then she went home.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: How old is Joan?
Speaker 4: She's in her early sixties, she's like sixty one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, I think she's gonna be good.
Speaker 2: I'm excited. I'm very excited. I'm more excited for Golden
Speaker 2: Bachelorette than I was for Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 4: Because you want to see all the sixteen seventy year
Speaker 4: old men.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm very intrigued by the casting for this show.
Speaker 2: I just don't know, such a good job.
Speaker 3: With the casting for Golden Bachelor too, And I feel
Speaker 3: like that was a big question mark of like what's
Speaker 3: this going to be? Like who are they going to
Speaker 3: get for this show? So I'm really curious, like when
Speaker 3: they released that like group photo cast of women, like
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for that group photo cast of.
Speaker 2: Men, and yeah, me too. And Joan is Joan lives
Speaker 2: in California, right, She's a local Californian issue, I think.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm like pretty sure.
Speaker 4: And we met Joan. We had the chance to meet her.
Speaker 2: You met her when we were at the The first
Speaker 2: time we meet her was in the mansion, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we went to the Golden Bouchelor finale party that
Speaker 3: was hosted at the Bouchler mansion.
Speaker 2: Also, I stand correct at Joan lives in Maryland.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you said California, I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: that doesn't sound right.
Speaker 3: Does she looks like an LA girl?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: But yeah, we met her at the mansion. She was great.
Speaker 3: We had a lot of fun with her. I think
Speaker 3: she's going to be like a really fun lead and
Speaker 3: very capable of like carrying the show.
Speaker 2: She all the women were were very chatty, but she
Speaker 2: she was. She was very chatty. She was very opinionated on.
Speaker 4: What she so chatty.
Speaker 3: Her and I were sitting in the fireplace for like
Speaker 3: an hour together trying to warm up.
Speaker 2: She was the one that like had like this idea
Speaker 2: of like they should change the format.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Joan, but she's not going to want to change
Speaker 4: the format.
Speaker 3: As we're like, Joan, you got some great ideas, girl,
Speaker 3: but we have no power here, Like we are not
Speaker 3: the people to be talking to. Like you got to
Speaker 3: get in front of some exacts if you want to
Speaker 3: pitch these ideas.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I remember that. Yeah, she told me. It
Speaker 2: was like like I think it was. The idea was
Speaker 2: to have like multiple leads kind of similar to Rachel
Speaker 2: and Gabby situation, but I think I think it was
Speaker 2: like three leads. And she was telling me this and
Speaker 2: she said, well, what do you think. I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: I mean, sure, great, but like what do you want
Speaker 2: me to do about it. The way it was, the
Speaker 2: way she presented it to us, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we have no power.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she has a lot of ideas about the
Speaker 3: show and things that they can do to, like, you know,
Speaker 3: make it fine and new and exciting and successful.
Speaker 4: So I feel like she's going to be very involved
Speaker 4: in her own journey and her own process.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, I honestly I think she's going to be great.
Speaker 2: I think and I think she's the right choice, Like
Speaker 2: I really do. I think I think it makes a
Speaker 2: lot of sense. And yeah, I think it's so important
Speaker 2: to choose a lead that will be desirable.
Speaker 3: Right do you mean like looks? Do you mean personality?
Speaker 2: Do you mean? I think? I think looks. I think
Speaker 2: I've just.
Speaker 4: Shows like they better be hot.
Speaker 3: It's not going to work.
Speaker 2: Let's just call it what it is. What attraction is
Speaker 2: A is like the first thing.
Speaker 3: No, look, every lead in the Bachelor franchise, I would say,
Speaker 3: almost everyone cast, but like specifically the leads, like it's
Speaker 3: like exciting and fun when they're really attractive. Like, I
Speaker 3: think there was a big response to Joey because like
Speaker 3: girls loved him, like viewers loved him. The girls were
Speaker 3: going crazy for Joey, Like, girls were like, I have
Speaker 3: a crush on Joey. I'm watching my boyfriend every week
Speaker 3: on TV. Like, I think that's good for the fandom,
Speaker 3: for the audience, you know what I mean. They want
Speaker 3: to watch and be like, it's also like a luxurious, fun,
Speaker 3: sexy show.
Speaker 4: So you want to like lean into that with your cast, right,
Speaker 4: I agree?
Speaker 2: I yeah, So Joan Joan jo and Joan, Well, we'll see.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have her definitely half her on the podcast.
Speaker 2: We I believe we had her on before. We definitely
Speaker 2: had her on. I think we had her on during
Speaker 2: like the Woman Tell.
Speaker 3: All we did. She was in our like speed dating
Speaker 3: interview after Women Tell All, where we had her and
Speaker 3: a couple other women do some some quick interviews. So
Speaker 3: if you want to listen to Joan chat, you can
Speaker 3: go back and listen to that episode. But I'm sure
Speaker 3: that we will have her on sometimes I'm in the future,
Speaker 3: definitely sometimes, hopefully sooner than later.
Speaker 2: Hopefully, I'm sure we'll get her on right before her season,
Speaker 2: and then I'm sure we'll get her on a few
Speaker 2: times Derrik her season. I really hope we'll get some
Speaker 2: of those guys on. That's gonna be funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be good.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into Pilot pete season Night one,
Speaker 2: and we are going to ask Pete a bunch of
Speaker 2: questions about what he was thinking on a season like
Speaker 2: he did get rid of. We just found out every
Speaker 2: girl that went on Pete's season who was a flight
Speaker 2: attendant he got rid of Night one. Serena thinks he
Speaker 2: did it on purpose. I said, it's a coincidence.
Speaker 3: I think he definitely did on purpose. We also were
Speaker 3: talking earlier and I think other than grocery Store Joe,
Speaker 3: Pilot Pete might have the most notable nickname in the
Speaker 3: franchise other.
Speaker 2: They grocery store Joe. Wow.
Speaker 4: I mean, here's a pretty notable nickname, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, we'll talk to him about traders as well
Speaker 2: and everything else he's got going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, lots to talk to him about. His Night one
Speaker 3: one episode was a little unique. It was a three
Speaker 3: hour season premiere. The first half was the traditional Night
Speaker 3: one getting out of the limo format, and then the
Speaker 3: second half of the episode was the first week of.
Speaker 2: Dates, which is insane. I can't believe they ever I
Speaker 2: had no idea that they ever did that.
Speaker 3: Me either, and I watched it, but I totally forgot.
Speaker 3: We were halfway through the episode, like we're already at
Speaker 3: the Rose Ceremony. What's going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was pretty crazy, but we're going to.
Speaker 3: Focus on the night one Limo outfits, Rose Ceremony, first impression,
Speaker 3: Rose portion. He had a great tast of women, so
Speaker 3: much to talk about. It was a really good premiere episode,
Speaker 3: so I think we're starting off with a good one.
Speaker 2: Well, it's also I didn't watch this first episode. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I don't think I watched Peter season. But knowing a
Speaker 2: lot of the women that are on his season and
Speaker 2: like seeing them again is actually pretty pretty funny. Yeah.
Speaker 3: For reference, after Peter season, there wasn't a Paradise season
Speaker 3: that year because the pandemic, so all of his women
Speaker 3: that went on Paradise were actually on Joe and I
Speaker 3: season of Paradise as well.
Speaker 2: Except for Victoria Fuller was on the following.
Speaker 3: Yes, well yes, but I would say the majority of
Speaker 3: the girls, like the next season of Paradise after Peter
Speaker 3: season was the season of Paradise that we were on.
Speaker 4: So we're going to go through some of.
Speaker 3: The highlights of this episode from night one, some of
Speaker 3: the standout moments and kind of talk about some of
Speaker 3: the women and where they are now.
Speaker 2: So Limo Entrances, who to you stood out the most.
Speaker 5: If you just to pick one girl Limo Entrances, because
Speaker 5: I have one, you know what, Alea probably, and I
Speaker 5: know that she was the first one, which may be why,
Speaker 5: but I was.
Speaker 4: Not surprised.
Speaker 3: I guess I just didn't remember that she was the
Speaker 3: first person out of the limo because she never ended
Speaker 3: up back on Paradise and I don't know how far
Speaker 3: she makes it on the season, but yeah, she was
Speaker 3: the first one out, and she did the note from
Speaker 3: her grandmother Rose.
Speaker 4: Her grandmother's name is Rosemary.
Speaker 3: Peter's Grandmother's name is Rose as well, So I thought
Speaker 3: it was like a good way to start start the
Speaker 3: episode in terms of at Lama says, what about you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was shocked at that she was
Speaker 2: the first one that they shown.
Speaker 3: But I think she later in the season ended up
Speaker 3: having like drama that had started in the pagant world
Speaker 3: another one of the But.
Speaker 2: Even then, usually the first person out of the limo
Speaker 2: is isn't usually someone that was involved in drama. It's
Speaker 2: usually someone that's like.
Speaker 6: Either goes deep with the lead or I'm sorry what
Speaker 6: you know what I mean goes deep in the season yep.
Speaker 6: But usually it isn't Eddie.
Speaker 2: Is it drama related. It's either like heartbreak or like
Speaker 2: a love story.
Speaker 3: Yes, or just someone that they think I feel the
Speaker 3: first person of the Limo is someone that they see
Speaker 3: really hitting it off with the lead.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So she is very bubbly and beautiful, so maybe they
Speaker 3: were like, this girl might end up bringing drama or
Speaker 3: she might really work out with Peter. She also had
Speaker 3: one of the better limo entrance gimmicks. I would say, Yeah,
Speaker 3: a lot of the girls I felt like were either
Speaker 3: coming in on like a car or a plane, or
Speaker 3: it was just like a classic nice to meet you.
Speaker 3: There wasn't as many like I don't know, little like
Speaker 3: gifts and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I thought hers was one of the better entrances.
Speaker 2: It was well, we'll get into it, but it was
Speaker 2: a very chaotic Night one.
Speaker 3: It was I felt like there was a lot going on,
Speaker 3: a lot of really strong personalities. Like the casting for
Speaker 3: this season was great. All the women are like really
Speaker 3: really beautiful and great personalities across the board. Yeah, super
Speaker 3: excited to be there. I don't know what it was
Speaker 3: about Peter that attracted this group of women, but it's
Speaker 3: definitely an all star group.
Speaker 2: So I would say, for me out out, the level
Speaker 2: standout would be you know, and it's easier to say
Speaker 2: now because we know what happened.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, don't blame us for hindsight bias.
Speaker 2: Guys, I'd say Madison Pruitt. She she seemed she seemed
Speaker 2: out of everyone just like the most confident.
Speaker 4: She was very confident.
Speaker 3: She had like this beautiful red low back dress on.
Speaker 3: She came out in like a big paper plane. Yeah,
Speaker 3: which obviously, like so many the entrances were plane.
Speaker 2: But usually but usually like someone that comes out with
Speaker 2: like a gimmick like flying a plane, it's always kind.
Speaker 3: Of like it's awkward and cheesy. You you're kind of
Speaker 3: like cringing when they're doing something silly like that. But
Speaker 3: she did it, so it was like really cute and yeah,
Speaker 3: her delivery was just so confident.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just like worked. It was like okay, like
Speaker 2: I get like instay, I'm like okay, this girls going
Speaker 2: to be here a long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way that she didn't immediately stand out
Speaker 3: to him from that entrance, Like I we should actually
Speaker 3: ask him about what who his standout entrances were, and
Speaker 3: I bet you she's in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is good because the way we could come
Speaker 2: up with questions for peace. I know this is like
Speaker 2: all he remembers.
Speaker 3: I know it's been a few years. I would say
Speaker 3: the two biggest themes for the Limo entrances overall though,
Speaker 3: were he is a pilot, there's a whole bunch of
Speaker 3: flight attendants. Everyone's doing like piloty flight things. And then
Speaker 3: also the windmill and like sex jokes. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: Like we saw DeAndre came out with like dressed as
Speaker 3: a windmill.
Speaker 2: We saw Victoria Fuller like not like talid joke that
Speaker 2: she was like regretting mid joke and then panicked and
Speaker 2: freaked out.
Speaker 3: It's so funny seeing Victoria back on her first season. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because she has been such an icon in the franchise
Speaker 3: for so long, and I would say that her like
Speaker 3: confidence and has like grown over the years.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that happens with a lot of people
Speaker 2: that go on the show.
Speaker 3: Definitely, or it's the opposite and you get more insecure
Speaker 3: because people are analyzing you, picking you apart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, also, Hannah Brown comes back. I don't know if
Speaker 2: we've ever have we ever even seen that has a
Speaker 2: lead ever come back? I'm sure, I'm sure a lead
Speaker 2: has has come back at some point Night one, but
Speaker 2: out of the limo, it was kind of it was
Speaker 2: kind of shocking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I'm trying to think back if that's ever happened,
Speaker 3: where like a lead has shown back up. I don't
Speaker 3: think in that way though, because like Peter became the
Speaker 3: Bachelor obviously like a few months this is being filmed
Speaker 3: a few months after his breakup with Hannah Brown. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was like a really dramatic breakup. They ended things
Speaker 3: on good terms. There definitely still seemed to be like
Speaker 3: some chemistry there.
Speaker 2: And the reason why I think it works and why
Speaker 2: they were able to get her back she was single too.
Speaker 3: She was single, like her and her engagement had it
Speaker 3: worked out, she was single at the time, and I
Speaker 3: think that's why it was kind of so scandalous because
Speaker 3: she came out of the limo almost as if she
Speaker 3: was like like you're watching it, being like is she
Speaker 3: joining the cast?
Speaker 4: Like what's happening?
Speaker 3: You can tell Peter's like eyes lit up, he's excited
Speaker 3: to see her. I also just think, like you're meeting
Speaker 3: so many new people that first night, and seeing someone
Speaker 3: familiar is so comforting, or even someone that's been through
Speaker 3: this experience, Like I remember thinking that with Katie Thurston
Speaker 3: and Blake Moyin's like there was this extra level of
Speaker 3: comfort because they had both been through the experience before
Speaker 3: versus Peter having been through it and now meeting like
Speaker 3: so many new people who have never been through it before.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I agree one hundred percent. Do you think so
Speaker 2: Hannah was was currently on Dancing.
Speaker 4: With the Stars, Yeah, well they were filming Peter season while.
Speaker 2: They were Philip Peters season. Do you think if she
Speaker 2: wasn't doing that show she would have jumped in on
Speaker 2: this season? Well?
Speaker 3: I mean, so the second part of the episode, Channa
Speaker 3: shows up on the date and they do have a
Speaker 3: conversation that kind of feels like he's asking her to
Speaker 3: stay on the season and stay. I think she might have.
Speaker 3: I think there was definitely feeling still there on both sides.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I think it's for the
Speaker 3: best that she did it, because she would have just
Speaker 3: had so much of an advantage in a way, like
Speaker 3: it would have been like how do you navigate that
Speaker 3: relationship while also navigating like all these brand new relationships,
Speaker 3: like they'd slept together.
Speaker 4: They were open about that.
Speaker 2: I don't think she would have came back.
Speaker 3: No, and I don't think I think they were toying
Speaker 3: with the idea more because they knew it couldn't happen,
Speaker 3: so it was like kind of this like what if
Speaker 3: you did, even though you.
Speaker 2: Can't, Like, I think it's I think it's one. I
Speaker 2: think it's one thing for a former lead to go
Speaker 2: on Paradise, which is the first time we've seen that
Speaker 2: was back up friend, but but to have a former
Speaker 2: lead return.
Speaker 4: But it's not a former lead, it's his former lead.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, But I'm just saying in general, like we
Speaker 2: have a former lead return as a contest that I
Speaker 2: just don't see a world where they do that unless
Speaker 2: we do it. Unless they do an all star season,
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, once they do like a Bachelor
Speaker 2: All Star season of people that are still single.
Speaker 3: Like a Paradise season where it's like all single people
Speaker 3: who are but who are like way down like from
Speaker 3: the past.
Speaker 2: Or who are former leads you have to be enough.
Speaker 3: Single former leads for that. Probably not, but it's a
Speaker 3: fun idea. It's a fun concept.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think if Hanniburn was single and she wanted to
Speaker 3: go on like Matt James's season, well that's they're friends.
Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying, Like, if she wanted
Speaker 3: to go on a season of someone that she didn't know,
Speaker 3: like Zach's season, that's one thing. But it's different for
Speaker 3: her to go on Peter season after he was already
Speaker 3: on her season. It's like, well, you may as well
Speaker 3: just cut the cameras and go date that if that's
Speaker 3: what you're looking for. Speaking of familiar faces, Kelly Flan again,
Speaker 3: I think this is also the first time we've seen
Speaker 3: this happen, and maybe the last.
Speaker 2: That they pre met.
Speaker 3: That they pre met.
Speaker 2: No, I feel like that's happened before. Really, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: feel like I know and I know I know who,
Speaker 2: but I can't I can't think of it. But I
Speaker 2: feel like I feel like that's happened before. I feel like,
Speaker 2: I don't think that's the first time. Okay, oh it
Speaker 2: happened on my season. It has I was barely on it, so,
Speaker 2: but I remember there was a guy there from Minnesota
Speaker 2: who had met back up before or they or I
Speaker 2: don't know if they if they actually met before, may
Speaker 2: have maybe like mutual friends tried to set them up
Speaker 2: and it never happened, but there was something there and
Speaker 2: she sent him home before rose ceremony. Oh okay, because
Speaker 2: I do remember that. Yeah, so that's why.
Speaker 3: And then I think I remember I think it was
Speaker 3: Rachel Lindsay season. One of the guys was like a
Speaker 3: few years younger than her, like in school or something
Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, like they were from the same town. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and there was like some sort of connection there where
Speaker 3: like she was like it was yeah, yeah, okay, so
Speaker 3: not the first time, but definitely a unique situation where
Speaker 3: she was like debating why on the show ran into
Speaker 3: Peter at like a bar or a hotel lobby bar
Speaker 3: or something like that.
Speaker 2: So if you don't know, Kelly and Peter ended up
Speaker 2: dating for I think a little over a year after
Speaker 2: after the show. But where how far did Kelly go?
Speaker 4: She goes like close to hometowns.
Speaker 2: Oh really, so she's like top five.
Speaker 3: I think around there, yeah, around there. She didn't go
Speaker 3: to hometowns, but she makes it far enough that she
Speaker 3: like had a one on one day. He was definitely
Speaker 3: into her. The way it seemed watching the season, Wow,
Speaker 3: like everything is just coming back to me from this season.
Speaker 3: This is crazy. I feel like when we started watching
Speaker 3: Night one, I was like, all the memories of this
Speaker 3: season are coming back.
Speaker 4: But I think the thing with Kelly was that she.
Speaker 3: Wasn't into like the process of it all, Like she
Speaker 3: had a hard time leaning into the actual show.
Speaker 2: And knowing her.
Speaker 3: That makes sense, totally, totally. Victoria Fuller, Victoria Fuller.
Speaker 2: Victoria Victoria Fuller to me is one of the funnier
Speaker 2: ones to watch because so funny. She is funny. She's funny,
Speaker 2: and yeah, we know her and we like literally just
Speaker 2: saw her. Yeah so that yeah, she we see her.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize she Like really, she's like the girl
Speaker 2: who spirals Night one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a few girls that spiral Night one. There
Speaker 3: was like three girls spiraling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she Natasha was another one that was kind
Speaker 2: of spiraling.
Speaker 3: Well she yeah, Well let's get into so like limos
Speaker 3: are done. Yeah, let's get into like the sit down chats.
Speaker 3: Then what we're kind of you know, we see La
Speaker 3: at her grandmother, but like what we're kind of the
Speaker 3: other standouts.
Speaker 2: So obviously Hannah Anne, which I.
Speaker 3: Do, Hannah Anna is kind of like the star of
Speaker 3: the show this night, ye say, she's really the standout. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and in a good and a bad way because the
Speaker 3: women are pissed at her.
Speaker 2: The women are pissed at her, but it's working, so
Speaker 2: so what also like knowing Hannah Anne, like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't think I don't think she went in like with
Speaker 2: malicious intent of like screw these other girls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well for those that maybe had watch, for those
Speaker 3: that maybe haven't watched or have forgotten. Hannah Ann is
Speaker 3: the girl that ends up engaged to Peter at the
Speaker 3: end of the season. She gets the first impression Rose
Speaker 3: night one, and her method to the madness was she
Speaker 3: talked to Peter, then she went back and stole Peter
Speaker 3: again from Natasha. Yeah, And then she went back and
Speaker 3: stole Peter again from I think it was she an Yeah,
Speaker 3: And that she talked to him three times that night, which.
Speaker 2: Any other I don't remember if she got a lot
Speaker 2: of hate for that, but any other contestant. And she
Speaker 2: ends up getting the first impressure roll, yes, but any
Speaker 2: other contestant that does that usually does get a lot
Speaker 2: of hate. But then again, she got the first impressure roll,
Speaker 2: So I think that kind of validated that he was
Speaker 2: into it, that he was into it, and yeah.
Speaker 4: That it was mutual, yes, but still like so shocking overall. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know, she just like really went in there.
Speaker 3: It's the reason it's shocking, will say, is because I mean,
Speaker 3: you podcasted with Hannah An for a little bit on
Speaker 3: click Bait. I've never met her, but she does come
Speaker 3: across very sweet, like she's just this southern sweetheart.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's true to her.
Speaker 3: And you know, she's giving Peter a painting that her
Speaker 3: and her dad painted together, and you know, one of
Speaker 3: the girls confronts her and is like, hey, you're stealing
Speaker 3: time from me, and she's like, oh my god, go
Speaker 3: get your time. Like yeah, she's like so nice. I
Speaker 3: just don't think it's it's who she is. But I
Speaker 3: think she like got carried away. Yeah, of like I'm
Speaker 3: in this new environment, I want to get time, so
Speaker 3: like I'm just going.
Speaker 2: To do that. Yeah. Absolutely, I think this was like
Speaker 2: rewatching this first night back. One thing I knowed it
Speaker 2: was we see I don't I feel like we see this,
Speaker 2: but just not nearly as much. And I forget that
Speaker 2: this was a big thing in the show, especially Night one,
Speaker 2: were girls interrupting other women, interrupting other women during their
Speaker 2: conversation with the lead like that that was like people
Speaker 2: stealing Peter was happening non stop in this and I
Speaker 2: forget how much that was a thing.
Speaker 3: I feel like they used to show it more like
Speaker 3: how tense that interaction is of like stealing the lead,
Speaker 3: and like girls that go in multiple times, Like I
Speaker 3: remember Katie There's Not my season stole Matt from Maury
Speaker 3: and she used like a dildo to do it, Yeah,
Speaker 3: because that was like kind of her bit of the night,
Speaker 3: and Mari was pissed. And I remember Queen Victoria went
Speaker 3: in twice and that was like juicy. But I just
Speaker 3: feel like on this season it was like really made
Speaker 3: to be a big thing because I think the women
Speaker 3: were reacting really poorly, and not poorly, but they were
Speaker 3: having like a negative reaction. They were getting mad.
Speaker 2: And I think watching a lot of people that go
Speaker 2: on the show obviously watch the show and knowing after
Speaker 2: so many seasons that that stealing the lead isn't the
Speaker 2: greatest look, I think people now go in like yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll just wait.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's not great either, because then you're sitting
Speaker 3: there anxious, worrying that you're gonna go home. Like it's
Speaker 3: kind of a lose lose, like you have to steal
Speaker 3: the lead from someone else. That is just how it works.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but there's also I guess there is a
Speaker 2: cleaner way to do it. And I think what we
Speaker 2: saw in this season it was more girls really just
Speaker 2: not giving a fuck. Like I'm like, I think it
Speaker 2: was Natasha and you know, the girl from Canada, Natasha
Speaker 2: and the girl from Canada. It wasn't Natasha and Hannah Ann.
Speaker 2: I think it was. Yeah, So it was Natasha and
Speaker 2: McKenna and they were like going back and forth at
Speaker 2: each other, like standing there making noises. I was like,
Speaker 2: that was like, no one does that anymore.
Speaker 3: No, Well, McKenna had little paper airplanes that she was
Speaker 3: throwing at Peter and Natasha. Natasha May said no, you
Speaker 3: can't steal him from me. Then McKenna came back and
Speaker 3: through more airplanes and she was like okay, and then
Speaker 3: Natasha stood there in chirps, still went back. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel like you don't really see that anywhere but
Speaker 3: like I do love that, Like that is so old
Speaker 3: school Bachelor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love it.
Speaker 3: I love seeing people like fight for time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. I think that's I think that's a
Speaker 2: big part of the show that they need to actually
Speaker 2: start bringing back alone.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do we see that on Joey's season, like go back
Speaker 2: to I don't think we did.
Speaker 4: I don't think so, but I do think.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say that Joey had like more
Speaker 3: passive women because that's not the right word, but maybe
Speaker 3: just like more easy going, go with the flow, kind
Speaker 3: of laid back women, whereas Peter's women, I would not
Speaker 3: describe any of them as go with the flow or
Speaker 3: laid back necessarily, Like they were a lot more I'm
Speaker 3: going to go get my man, and a lot of
Speaker 3: them came in like really into Peter, which so did
Speaker 3: Joey's women. He did have a lot of hyperon him
Speaker 3: as well, But I would just say the casting was different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It's so fun to watch, Like there's tension the entire
Speaker 3: episode between everyone.
Speaker 2: Any let's see any other Do we see Madison later
Speaker 2: in the episode a little bit.
Speaker 3: Madnie, we don't see that much, but kind of just
Speaker 3: see like a short chat. I mean, we do see
Speaker 3: a conversation between Kelly and Peter where he's like really
Speaker 3: happy she's there. There's definitely chemistry between the two of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does seem like and again like we're like
Speaker 2: Monday morning quarterbacking here. But it does see seem like
Speaker 2: the girls what like Monday morning, Like like.
Speaker 3: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: We know the answer?
Speaker 3: So oh okay, so.
Speaker 2: We're basing what we're saying off of the fact that
Speaker 2: we know we know. Yeah, but like it does it
Speaker 2: seems like Hannah Ann and Kelly.
Speaker 3: But I will say like he I would say, you know,
Speaker 3: we see the conversation with Kelly, and there's more of
Speaker 3: a spark there than his conversation with Maddie. Yeah, that
Speaker 3: from what we see night one. But I also think
Speaker 3: he met Kelly already. They spent time talking getting to
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 2: Also, Peter, Peter did a pretty good job of seeming
Speaker 2: like he was kind of into everyone he talked to.
Speaker 2: There was no there was no there was like no
Speaker 2: one that I feel like Peter talked to that you
Speaker 2: were like, oh, he actually seems really excited to be
Speaker 2: having this conversation with this person.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was just happy to be there.
Speaker 3: He's also a very social, charismatic guy, so he just
Speaker 3: that is kind of his natural energy, which I think
Speaker 3: is great for a lead to have. Yeah, because it
Speaker 3: just makes the women feel so comfortable, and I feel
Speaker 3: like you get everyone at their like you get their
Speaker 3: most authentic self.
Speaker 2: And then we see the like it flashes to like
Speaker 2: showing the fact that it is now mourning and we're
Speaker 2: having the rows. A ton of girls got cut all
Speaker 2: he cut all the flight attendants. And then this was
Speaker 2: the first time we ever see like they roll into
Speaker 2: to the first day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, whoa, whoa, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting that. But yeah, first night one, we
Speaker 3: had a lot of kisses, we had a lot of criers.
Speaker 3: Someone that went home night one that ended up, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of going on to do more would be Marissa.
Speaker 3: Marissa went home night one, but she ended up engaged
Speaker 3: on our season of Paradise, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 2: I will say that this episode, I don't I don't
Speaker 2: know if this is the right word, but it really
Speaker 2: it felt like you said, like like this is like
Speaker 2: traditional old school bachelor, Like it felt very like I'm
Speaker 2: watching reality TV.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know there was something and maybe, look,
Speaker 3: who's to say that in three years, we're not going
Speaker 3: to go back and watch Joey's season and say like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is traditional old school Bachelor, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 3: maybe there is just something about going back and watching
Speaker 3: a season that we've already seen before, but like it
Speaker 3: was a good season. Like watching it back, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this this season did really well for a reason. Yeah overall?
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Who who else should we talk about here?
Speaker 2: There was a few girls that were on ours are
Speaker 2: that go on to Paradise?
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do a little ware are they now?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna name I'm gonna throw some names at
Speaker 4: you from the cast.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Cool.
Speaker 4: So first one that stood out to me. We didn't
Speaker 4: see this person a lot.
Speaker 2: Oh I have somebody that set out to me. I
Speaker 2: wonder if you're going to say who it is?
Speaker 4: Oh, no, because I'm going in alphabetical order.
Speaker 2: So you go, oh, Sydney, Sydney. Yeah, yeah, Like I
Speaker 2: would have watched episode. I would have watched this first
Speaker 2: episode and been like, Sidney would probably be something that
Speaker 2: I would have put in my top We you and I? Okay,
Speaker 2: so you and I always do top three, top four,
Speaker 2: top four. Sidney would have been in my top four.
Speaker 4: Yes, she's so beautiful.
Speaker 2: Sidney would have been in my half four. I mean,
Speaker 2: I feel like you have to put Fuller in there
Speaker 2: just because she's already spiraling. But you could tell Peter
Speaker 2: likes her.
Speaker 3: Really, I feel like their conversation was so short and
Speaker 3: both interactions revolved around this like dirty joke that she
Speaker 3: was uncomfortable making.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then she says it again, she doesn't. That
Speaker 2: was the funniest part. She was she was self conscious
Speaker 2: about the joke. She did it, deliver it, and then
Speaker 2: she goes back and tells Peter the same joke, and
Speaker 2: he goes, yeah, well, could you re say that? Because
Speaker 2: I totally I don't remember because I don't remember. And
Speaker 2: then she's that's what she's viral. Oh yeah, I would
Speaker 2: have too, would.
Speaker 3: She's probably I shouldn't even have brought this up a
Speaker 3: second time, and now I have to say it again. No,
Speaker 3: I did not think her like I would have spiraled
Speaker 3: a little bit too if I was her on the
Speaker 3: first night.
Speaker 2: Well, it's also easy, like, I mean, I know this
Speaker 2: happened for me, and I would say this happens for
Speaker 2: ninety percent of the people that that go on the show.
Speaker 2: It's so easy to think like the lead just like
Speaker 2: doesn't even know who I am, Like, the lead's not
Speaker 2: into me at all. Yeah, don't because because I think
Speaker 2: when you're there night one A, you're you're you're so
Speaker 2: in your head and then you're kind of like it's
Speaker 2: all new. But but when you look at everyone else,
Speaker 2: it's it does Like for me, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: it feels like these guys have been here, they like
Speaker 2: know what they're doing and they and they had great
Speaker 2: conversations with Becca and like they're light years ahead, and
Speaker 2: I'm just like, what am I doing? And I And
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people have to feel that.
Speaker 3: Way, definitely, because if you talk to the lead early on,
Speaker 3: even if it goes well, by the end of the night,
Speaker 3: you're like, have they forgotten about me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And then if you talk to the lead late, even
Speaker 3: if it goes well, you're like, well, you know, does
Speaker 3: he even care? You know, he didn't talk to me
Speaker 3: all night. He talked to all these other girls first.
Speaker 3: And then the first impression Rose is always like kind
Speaker 3: of the added kicker. So yeah, I mean it's hard.
Speaker 3: It's it's a really tough night overall to get through.
Speaker 2: At first, some pressure rows. That's something they can never
Speaker 2: get rid of. Never. Yeah, that's like very important, it's
Speaker 2: very good if they got rid of that. The most
Speaker 2: important part of the show. Important. I can't, I can't,
Speaker 2: I can't speak today.
Speaker 4: It's the most important part of the show, or the night,
Speaker 4: the night, it's very important part.
Speaker 3: I would agree with that.
Speaker 4: This was also the first, not the first time we
Speaker 4: see that.
Speaker 3: But like Peter's family played such a big role in
Speaker 3: both like his intro package and then throughout the rest
Speaker 3: of the season, his mom Barb has like so many
Speaker 3: iconic moments throughout the entire show.
Speaker 2: She has to be. Out of all the parents of
Speaker 2: any lead, she is by.
Speaker 3: Far the most famous, Yeah, like the most well known. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she would be someone that, like, I mean, his parents
Speaker 3: seem to be so in love and I'm so happy
Speaker 3: they have a happy marriage.
Speaker 4: But if she was single, oh, she would be like
Speaker 4: perfect for the Golden Match.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she would have already got she would have
Speaker 2: gotten the contract. I don't even think, I don't even yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't even think. If Peter's obviously she's happily married.
Speaker 2: But if Peter's mom was single, I don't even think
Speaker 2: they would have done a Golden Bachelor. I think they
Speaker 2: would have jumped to the Golden Bachelorette and made it
Speaker 2: Pete's mom.
Speaker 3: I would love to see that. She's such like a
Speaker 3: vivacious woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so that was fun to see, like, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of the start of that journey. And then you see,
Speaker 3: you know, in the teaser, that famous line of her
Speaker 3: like bring her home to us?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, where did this thing go? At the end?
Speaker 2: I forget right because doesn't he like he who does
Speaker 2: he end up with?
Speaker 3: So what ended up happening is he's down to Maddie
Speaker 3: and Hannah Anne. Yes, and who went to hometowns? It
Speaker 3: was Victoria Fuller, Hannah Anne, Maddie prove it.
Speaker 4: But who was number? Oh Kelsey Kelsey. We didn't see
Speaker 4: Kelsey very much in the.
Speaker 2: Same Oh yeah you don't see Kelsey, but you do.
Speaker 2: Oh you know who you see a lot is Victoria Paul.
Speaker 2: Victoria Paul, So she's another one watching this. I would
Speaker 2: have been like, Okay, she's probably gonna be there for
Speaker 2: a while. It seemed that way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was there for a minute.
Speaker 2: But I think she isn't she she? I think she's
Speaker 2: probably like top ten. Yeah, I think so let me
Speaker 2: see the face sheet. Anyone else said, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: I think Victoria Paul gets the first one on one
Speaker 3: or one of the first one on one dates, okay,
Speaker 3: or not the first one, I think, because she's on
Speaker 3: like that top Gunny style date that they do, I believe.
Speaker 4: And but she gets an early one on one date and.
Speaker 2: They eliminate, they eliminate one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
Speaker 2: eight eight, Girls went whole night one.
Speaker 3: That's a lot.
Speaker 2: That's a lot. I mean Joey's season there had to
Speaker 2: be what, like, I don't even think nowhere.
Speaker 4: Close to that, I think, And there was a girl
Speaker 4: about Home night.
Speaker 2: You had a big seat, you had a big cast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but so did Joey.
Speaker 4: We had the same They kept saying Joey was the
Speaker 4: biggest cast of all time.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I was wrong. Ten tenn oh much, joe
Speaker 2: sees it jesus, Oh my gosh, we're way off. We're
Speaker 2: talking about the show.
Speaker 3: But to answer your question, what ends up happening is
Speaker 3: it's between Maddie and Hannah. You can tell he's like
Speaker 3: kind of torn. I think Maddie ends up essentially sending
Speaker 3: herself home because the values aren't aligned between the two
Speaker 3: of them. Yeah, he gets engaged to Hannah Anne. You
Speaker 3: know what's crazy is Chris Harrison has like an iconic
Speaker 3: line at the end where he's basically saying, like, Hannah
Speaker 3: An doesn't even know she's gonna come today.
Speaker 4: And he said recently that that wasn't true.
Speaker 3: That is crazy, or that it was true potentially, but
Speaker 3: he hadn't talked to Hannah Ann that day, like she
Speaker 3: didn't tell him that directly, and they get engaged. It's
Speaker 3: not it's awkward, it's not overly romantic. He like talks
Speaker 3: about Maddie and their breakup in the proposal, and then
Speaker 3: they don't work out, similar as to Becca and Ari,
Speaker 3: where he breaks up with Hannah at a happy couple
Speaker 3: house and then Maddie and him.
Speaker 4: Reconnect.
Speaker 3: That's when Barb is like, he's got to figure this
Speaker 3: out for himself, basically like it's not it's not gonna work,
Speaker 3: but they'll figure that out. And then he gets with Kelly,
Speaker 3: and then he dates Kelly for a year and he
Speaker 3: tates Kelly for a long time, they had a long relationship.
Speaker 2: I would say the most shocking thing about this entire
Speaker 2: season for me is I cannot believe after just even
Speaker 2: watching Night one and then kind of and and then
Speaker 2: knowing what you just told me the breakup story, I
Speaker 2: cannot believe Hannah Ann was not the next lead. Maybe
Speaker 2: maybe maybe they just didn't want to do two Hannah's
Speaker 2: in a row, Like I mean maybe I don't know, maybe,
Speaker 2: but I watch it. I'm like, I can't believe Hannah
Speaker 2: Anne and and she like blew up after that season too,
Speaker 2: so I can't believe. I mean, maybe she turned it down,
Speaker 2: who knows.
Speaker 3: Maybe she just wasn't ready. I mean she is just
Speaker 3: because the turnaround time from Bachelor finishing airing to Bacherette
Speaker 3: being filmed is like really close. So like if she
Speaker 3: was engaged to him for like a chunk of time
Speaker 3: and then she had to like see him again at
Speaker 3: the finale, maybe she was just like this is too
Speaker 3: much for me to now go like date another dude,
Speaker 3: Like I just ended a relation, an engagement.
Speaker 4: But she would have been good to bring back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she would have. There's a lot of girls from
Speaker 3: this like in terms of people that we saw again
Speaker 3: from this season. We had or Alexa, No, not Alexa, sorry,
Speaker 3: she was yeah, never mind. She was potentially gonna be
Speaker 3: on our season in Paradise, but I don't think she
Speaker 3: ever made it down to the beach. But we had Deandra.
Speaker 3: We had Kelsey on our season of Paradise with Marissa
Speaker 3: Natasha obviously, McKenna, Victoria, Paul Victoria, Paul Victoria f was
Speaker 3: not our season but on the next season, and then
Speaker 3: Tammy and then we've got a lot of people I
Speaker 3: think that are like married now, Like Sydney's married. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think she just had a kid.
Speaker 2: It's married to an NFL.
Speaker 3: Star, NFL star, Yeah, Hannah Ann's engaged.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean it is crazy like watching back and then
Speaker 3: thinking like all these people were looking for love and
Speaker 3: like little do they know, and you know, four years
Speaker 3: they might be married or having kids or it's just crazy.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Okay, I think that's it.
Speaker 2: That's a recap. We are going to talk to Peter
Speaker 2: Lair this week, so make sure you're make sure you
Speaker 2: stay tuned, and we'll ask him some questions about Night one,
Speaker 2: also his season and what he's got going on right now.
Speaker 2: He was a pretty popular player on the show Traders,
Speaker 2: so we'll talk about that. So yeah, make sure you
Speaker 2: stay tuned and thank you for listening to Happy Hour.
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Speaker 2: Bye bye
Speaker 3: Mm hmm